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Logical
04-27-2008, 03:06 PM
and it started at 7:30 am here in Cali and I can only get the picks through the 4 via ESPN.

Thanks in advance (if you could provide a short assessment as well it would be appreciated).

3 13(76) Brad Cottam TE TENNESSEE

Cotam needs to learn to play with better leverage, which comes as no shock considering he's 6-foot-7. He doesn't show great athletic ability as a pass-catcher. However, he has the size to develop into an excellent in-line blocker and has the strong hands to develop into a reliable possession receiver.

The only real mystery??? Why this guy, did I miss something this off-season did we go ahead and release our blocking TEs?

banyon
04-27-2008, 03:08 PM
Kansas City Chiefs Draft Picks
Rd 1 - #5(5) Glenn Dorsey (DT) LSU
Rd 1 - #15(15) Branden Albert (OG) Virginia
Rd 2 - #4(35) Brandon Flowers (CB) Va Tech
Rd 3 - #10(73) Jamaal Charles (RB) Texas
Rd 3 - #13(76) Brad Cottam (TE) Tennessee
Rd 3 - #19(82) DaJuan Morgan (S) NC State
Rd 4 - #6(105) William Franklin (WR) Missouri
Rd 5 - #5(140) Brandon Carr (CB) G Valley St
Rd 6 - #4(170) Barry Richardson (OT) Clemson
Rd 6 - #16(182) Kevin Robinson (WR) Utah St
Rd 7 - #3(210) Brian Johnston (DE) Gardner Webb

KCJohnny
04-27-2008, 03:09 PM
You snooze, you lose.

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 03:09 PM
3 10(73) Jamaal Charles RB TEXAS

He isn't a power back who will push the pile in short-yardage situations, and he's not big enough to anchor in pass protection, either. However, he's very explosive, can make defenders miss in the open field and he can go the distance when he hits the seam. In addition, he flashes a strong stiff-arm when he gets into space.


3 13(76) Brad Cottam TE TENNESSEE

Cotam needs to learn to play with better leverage, which comes as no shock considering he's 6-foot-7. He doesn't show great athletic ability as a pass-catcher. However, he has the size to develop into an excellent in-line blocker and has the strong hands to develop into a reliable possession receiver.


3 19(82) DaJuan Morgan S NORTH CAROLINA ST

Morgan doesn't have prototypical range, so he can't play a centerfielder-type role. He also has limitations in man coverage. However, he has great instincts, rarely gets caught out of position and plays the ball well. He should also make an immediate impact on special teams covering kicks.


4 6(105) William Franklin WR MISSOURI
Franklin has had some problems staying healthy and occasionally drops passes he should catch, but he does have a good combination of size and speed.


5 5(140) Brandon Carr CB GRAND VALLEY ST
He has good size for a cornerback with good athletic ability and decent speed, but he will struggle against quicker receivers.


6 4(170) Barry Richardson OT CLEMSON
His lack of a mean streak is a concern. He should be a better drive blocker for a player with his size. That being said, he moves well for his size and has long arms to ride edge rushers past the pocket.


6 16(182) Kevin Robinson WR UTAH STATE

Robinson isn't fast enough to stretch the field and he's going to get pushed around by physical corners. However, he shows good body control and he isn't afraid to go over the middle. He's also an effective return man who should make immediate contributions on special teams.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/team?team=kan&draftyear=2008

Direckshun
04-27-2008, 03:09 PM
1. DT Glenn Dorsey
1. OL Brandon Albert
2. CB Brandon Flowers
3. RB Jamaal Charles
3. TE Brad Cottam
3. S DaJuan Morgan
4. WR Will Franklin
5. CB Brandon Carr
6. OL Barry Richardson
6. WR Kevin Robinson
7. DE Brian Johnston
7. ???

teedubya
04-27-2008, 03:14 PM
Kansas City Chiefs Draft Picks
Rd 1 - #5(5) teh suck
Rd 1 - #15(15) teh suck
Rd 2 - #4(35) teh suck
Rd 3 - #10(73) teh suck
Rd 3 - #13(76) teh suck
Rd 3 - #19(82) teh suck
Rd 4 - #6(105) teh suck
Rd 5 - #5(140) teh suck
Rd 6 - #4(170) teh suck
Rd 6 - #16(182) teh suck
Rd 7 - #3(210) teh suck

[/probably looking back in 2012]

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KC Jones
04-27-2008, 03:15 PM
A+

They got the best defensive player in the draft and stocked up on a lot of very talented football players. A few more years of drafting this smart and we'll have a kick ass roster to replace the bare cupboard Vermeil left us with.

Logical
04-27-2008, 03:19 PM
3 10(73) Jamaal Charles RB TEXAS

He isn't a power back who will push the pile in short-yardage situations, and he's not big enough to anchor in pass protection, either. However, he's very explosive, can make defenders miss in the open field and he can go the distance when he hits the seam. In addition, he flashes a strong stiff-arm when he gets into space.


3 13(76) Brad Cottam TE TENNESSEE

Cotam needs to learn to play with better leverage, which comes as no shock considering he's 6-foot-7. He doesn't show great athletic ability as a pass-catcher. However, he has the size to develop into an excellent in-line blocker and has the strong hands to develop into a reliable possession receiver.


3 19(82) DaJuan Morgan S NORTH CAROLINA ST

Morgan doesn't have prototypical range, so he can't play a centerfielder-type role. He also has limitations in man coverage. However, he has great instincts, rarely gets caught out of position and plays the ball well. He should also make an immediate impact on special teams covering kicks.


4 6(105) William Franklin WR MISSOURI
Franklin has had some problems staying healthy and occasionally drops passes he should catch, but he does have a good combination of size and speed.


5 5(140) Brandon Carr CB GRAND VALLEY ST
He has good size for a cornerback with good athletic ability and decent speed, but he will struggle against quicker receivers.


6 4(170) Barry Richardson OT CLEMSON
His lack of a mean streak is a concern. He should be a better drive blocker for a player with his size. That being said, he moves well for his size and has long arms to ride edge rushers past the pocket.


6 16(182) Kevin Robinson WR UTAH STATE

Robinson isn't fast enough to stretch the field and he's going to get pushed around by physical corners. However, he shows good body control and he isn't afraid to go over the middle. He's also an effective return man who should make immediate contributions on special teams.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/team?team=kan&draftyear=2008

Thanks

AMDChief
04-27-2008, 03:20 PM
<TABLE class=players-grid-table id=players-grid-table-by-team cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" _extended="true"><THEAD _extended="true"><TR _extended="true"><TD class=col-first-spacer _extended="true"></TD><TD class=col-pickext _extended="true">Pick</TD><TD class=col-player _extended="true">Player</TD><TD class=col-pos _extended="true">Pos</TD><TD class=col-height _extended="true">Ht</TD><TD class=col-weight _extended="true">Wt</TD><TD _extended="true">College</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY _extended="true"><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 1 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-1), Pick 5 (5)</TD><TD _extended="true">Glenn Dorsey (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/glenn-dorsey?id=218)</TD><TD _extended="true">DT (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-dl)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'2"</TD><TD _extended="true">316</TD><TD _extended="true">LSU (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-91)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-218?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor. </TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 1 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-1), Pick 15 (15) (From Lions)</TD><TD _extended="true">Branden Albert (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/branden-albert?id=660)</TD><TD _extended="true">OG (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-ol)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'6"</TD><TD _extended="true">309</TD><TD _extended="true">Virginia (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-8)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row-alt id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-660?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 2 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-2), Pick 4 (35)</TD><TD _extended="true">Brandon Flowers (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/brandon-flowers?id=754)</TD><TD _extended="true">CB (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-cb)</TD><TD _extended="true">5'10"</TD><TD _extended="true">189</TD><TD _extended="true">Virginia Tech (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-28)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-754?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 3 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-3), Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings)</TD><TD _extended="true">Jamaal Charles (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/jamaal-charles?id=925)</TD><TD _extended="true">RB (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-rb)</TD><TD _extended="true">5'11"</TD><TD _extended="true">200</TD><TD _extended="true">Texas (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-19)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row-alt id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-925?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 3 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-3), Pick 13 (76) (From Lions)</TD><TD _extended="true">Brad Cottam (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/brad-cottam?id=1972)</TD><TD _extended="true">TE (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-te)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'8"</TD><TD _extended="true">270</TD><TD _extended="true">Tennessee (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-86)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-1972?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 3 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-3), Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings)</TD><TD _extended="true">DaJuan Morgan (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/dajuan-morgan?id=2013)</TD><TD _extended="true">S (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-s)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'0"</TD><TD _extended="true">205</TD><TD _extended="true">North Carolina State (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-6)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row-alt id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-2013?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 4 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-4), Pick 6 (105)</TD><TD _extended="true">Will Franklin (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/will-franklin?id=1022)</TD><TD _extended="true">WR (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-wr)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'1"</TD><TD _extended="true">214</TD><TD _extended="true">Missouri (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-15)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-1022?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:At over 6-feet and 214 pounds, Franklin has impressive speed (he ran a 4.3 40) for a guy his size. He is extremely explosive and was generally graded as a third rounder, so Kansas City gets good value in the fourth round.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 5 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-5), Pick 5 (140)</TD><TD _extended="true">Brandon Carr (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/brandon-carr?id=4365)</TD><TD _extended="true">CB (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-cb)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'0"</TD><TD _extended="true">207</TD><TD _extended="true">Grand Valley State (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-225)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row-alt id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-4365?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Carr went under the radar as a Division II All-American for Grand Valley State. He has good size for a cornerback, but looked more like an athlete than a football player at times. He needs to work on his technique.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 6 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-6), Pick 4 (170)</TD><TD _extended="true">Barry Richardson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/barry-richardson?id=838)</TD><TD _extended="true">OT (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-ol)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'7"</TD><TD _extended="true">320</TD><TD _extended="true">Clemson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-1)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-838?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:He's a huge guy who runs well and has talent, but it has been said he lacks passion for the game. If a coach can motivate him and get him excited about playing football, he may well wind up being a find at the guard position.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 6 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-6), Pick 16 (182) (From Vikings)</TD><TD _extended="true">Kevin Robinson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/kevin-robinson?id=2305)</TD><TD _extended="true">WR (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-wr)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'0"</TD><TD _extended="true">190</TD><TD _extended="true">Utah State (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-73)</TD></TR><TR class="drafted-data-row-alt id=" _extended="true" #players-grid-table-by-team-analysis-row-2305?><TD colSpan=2 _extended="true"></TD><TD colSpan=5 _extended="true">Pick Analysis:Robinson is the best return man in the country out of Utah State. The competition isn't great in the WAC and it could be tough for him to adjust to the pro game. Still, he's very good at what he does and is an excellent special teamer.</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 7 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-7), Pick 3 (210)</TD><TD _extended="true">Brian Johnston (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/brian-johnston?id=4259)</TD><TD _extended="true">DE (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position|pos-dl)</TD><TD _extended="true">6'5"</TD><TD _extended="true">276</TD><TD _extended="true">Gardner-Webb (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college|college-219)</TD></TR><TR class=drafted-data-row-alt _extended="true"><TD _extended="true"></TD><TD _extended="true">Round 7 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-round|round-7), Pick 32 (239) (From Giants)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 03:31 PM
Pick Analysis:Robinson is the best return man in the country out of Utah State.The competition isn't great in the WAC and it could be tough for him to adjust to the pro game. Still, he's very good at what he does and is an excellent special teamer.I like the sound of that. :D

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 03:35 PM
we have tony and allen on the roster and that's it at te

Logical
04-27-2008, 04:17 PM
we have tony and allen on the roster and that's it at te
In that case the pick makes more sense. I hope this guy can block, he has big shoes to fill replacing Dunn.

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 04:20 PM
Heh, well now we have 4 TE's.

bowener
04-27-2008, 04:23 PM
we came we saw we duct taped carl to a chair and shoved him in a broom closet and we conquered.

KCJohnny
04-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Heh, well now we have 4 TE's.

We needed 3 of them just to replace Kris Wilson.

ChiefaRoo
04-27-2008, 04:31 PM
We needed 3 of them just to replace Kris Wilson.

More secret weapons. It's all part of the Carl and Herm's Master plan...
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KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
More secret weapons. It's all part of the Carl and Herm's Master plan...
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ChiefaRoo
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
LMAO That vid cracks me up every time.

Me too. :)

Thig Lyfe
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Brad Cottam looks like a badass.

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the Talking Can
04-27-2008, 04:34 PM
total disaster....

we didn't fix our OL for next year, and now we risk not being 8-8

i organized a group of douchebag true fans to protest such flagrant displays of value drafting....we logged in under various noob monikers - like kcjohnny - and let everyone know how unhappy we were about drafting so many great players and starters when we could have reached for OL with every pick...

we were cool...no one would admit it, but we were....

ChiefaRoo
04-27-2008, 04:36 PM
Brad Cottam looks like a badass.

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Nice wheels for a big guy.

Messier
04-27-2008, 04:43 PM
As I understand it Chan Gaily likes to run two TE sets, that's my guess for the TE's.

keg in kc
04-27-2008, 04:45 PM
Brad Cottam looks like a badass.Yowzers.

Hopefully the Chiefs took note of the 'rolling pocket' concept as well.

kchero
04-27-2008, 05:00 PM
More secret weapons. It's all part of the Carl and Herm's Master plan...
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