UFC 84 this weekend. Great lineup

[BIG_DADDY]

BJ Penn Vs. Sean Sherk (I'm taking Penn, gotta stick with my BJJ guys)
Name: BJ Penn
Height: 5' 9" (175 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 13-4-1

"The Prodigy"

Name: Sean Sherk
Height: 5' 6" (168 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 35-2-1

"Muscle Shark"



Wanderlei Silva Vs. Keith Jardine (Going with Silva one of my all time favorites)
Name: Wanderlei Silva
Height: 5' 11" (180 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 31-8-1

"The Axe Murderer"

Name: Keith Jardine
Height: 6' 2" (188 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 13-4-1

"The Dean of Mean"



Wilson Gouveia Vs. Goran Reljic ( Gouveia )
Name: Wilson Gouveia
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 10-4-0



Name: Goran Reljic
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 7-0-0





Tito Ortiz Vs. Lyoto Machida (Machita with the upset)
Name: Tito Ortiz
Height: 6' 2" (188 cm)
Weight: 204 (93 kg)
Record: 16-5-1

"Huntington Beach Bad Boy"

Name: Lyoto Machida
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 12-0-0





Thiago Silva Vs. Antonio Mendes (Silva)
Name: Thiago Silva
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 11-0-0



Name: Antonio Mendes
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 14-2-0

"Samuray"



Ivan Salaverry Vs. Rousimar Palhares
Name: Ivan Salaverry
Height: 6' 0" (183 cm)
Weight: 185 (84 kg)
Record: 12-5-1



Name: Rousimar Palhares
Height: 5' 8" (173 cm)
Weight: 185 (84 kg)
Record: 16-1-0

"Toquinho"
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Rameau Sokoudjou Vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Name: Rameau Sokoudjou
Height: 6' 0" (183 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 4-2-0

"The African Assassin"

Name: Kazuhiro Nakamura
Height: 5' 10" (178 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 11-7-0

"Kaz"
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Rich Clementi Vs. Terry Etim
Name: Rich Clementi
Height: 5' 9" (175 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 39-12-1

"No Love"

Name: Terry Etim
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 10-1-0


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Jon Koppenhaver Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Name: Jon Koppenhaver
Height: 5' 11" (180 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 6-1-0



Name: Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Height: 5' 11" (180 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 9-2-0

"Zenko"
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Jason Tan Vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Name: Jason Tan
Height: 5' 10" (178 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 5-1-0



Name: Dong Hyun Kim
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 9-0-1

"Stun Gun"
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Christian Wellisch Vs. Shane Carwin
Name: Christian Wellisch
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 237 (108 kg)
Record: 9-2-0

"The Hungarian Nightmare"

Name: Shane Carwin
Height: 6' 4" (193 cm)
Weight: 265 (120 kg)
Record: 8-0-0

[raybec 4]

I hope BJ Penn beats the piss out of that steroid freak!! I hate watching fighters who can only wrestle. I believe Penns skill set to be too advanced for Sherk.
I also hope Machida knocks out Ortiz. It would make me very happy to see him leave theUFC with his tail between his legs. He is such a douche that his girlfriend is his only redeaming quality.

[BIG_DADDY]

Machida grew up with a really good friend of mine I train with. He was down at our school awhile back but I wasn't around. I am pulling for him big time.

Tito just wants to make money bro. He's really not a bad guy.

Penn is going to have to be in great shape. Sherk is an animal.

[raybec 4]

Machida grew up with a really good friend of mine I train with. He was down at our school awhile back but I wasn't around. I am pulling for him big time.

Tito just wants to make money bro. He's really not a bad guy.

Penn is going to have to be in great shape. Sherk is an animal.

Didn't we have a similar discussion about the Diaz brothers? J/K
I'm sure Tito isn't a bad guy, and he is one of the main reasons why the sport is as big as it is. However, he seems to have lost touch with the reality that his market value is not what it once was. He has not looked good in his past few fights and whether that's due to injury or skill he needs to acknowledge that and move forward.

[BIG_DADDY]

Didn't we have a similar discussion about the Diaz brothers? J/K
I'm sure Tito isn't a bad guy, and he is one of the main reasons why the sport is as big as it is. However, he seems to have lost touch with the reality that his market value is not what it once was. He has not looked good in his past few fights and whether that's due to injury or skill he needs to acknowledge that and move forward.

Diaz Brothers ROCK!!!

[Stinger]

Maybe there will be a double KO

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[BIG_DADDY]

BTW Nick Diaz just beat Katsuya Inoue in Dream 3. HDnet Fights is off the hook and free. Doesn't get any better than that.

I think Dana White has always hated the Diaz brothers and will try to overmatch Nate in his next fight.

[raybec 4]

BTW Nick Diaz just beat Katsuya Inoue in Dream 3. HDnet Fights is off the hook and free. Doesn't get any better than that.

I think Dana White has always hated the Diaz brothers and will try to overmatch Nate in his next fight.

I saw that fight, I have a spaecial place in my heart for Japanese jiu-jitsu just as you do for bjj. I lived on Okinawa for 5 years and I realize that these Japanese fighters are having a hard time adjusting to the ever changing game.

I don't think Dana hates Nate as much as Nick, Dana has said Nick would never fight for the UFC again and I still don't know why.

[BIG_DADDY]

I saw that fight, I have a spaecial place in my heart for Japanese jiu-jitsu just as you do for bjj. I lived on Okinawa for 5 years and I realize that these Japanese fighters are having a hard time adjusting to the ever changing game.

I don't think Dana hates Nate as much as Nick, Dana has said Nick would never fight for the UFC again and I still don't know why.

That may change at some point but Dana just needs to get the best fighters in there instead of playing favorites all the time. He is really bad when it comes to that.

[xbarretx]

i predict "Rickson .. by armbar" LMAO

[raybec 4]

That may change at some point but Dana just needs to get the best fighters in there instead of playing favorites all the time. He is really bad when it comes to that.

That is a fact he is much less concerned with making good fights than he is with the public image of the fighters. He has taken a guy like Randy who is another of a handful of fighters who have made the game what it is and completely alienated him. It's a shame. He is an awesome promoter and a first class jackass.

[xbarretx]

Maybe there will be a double KO




or maybe we'll see another flying scissor heel :hmmm:

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[BIG_DADDY]

That is a fact he is much less concerned with making good fights than he is with the public image of the fighters. He has taken a guy like Randy who is another of a handful of fighters who have made the game what it is and completely alienated him. It's a shame. He is an awesome promoter and a first class jackass.


Well we certainly agree on that.

[raybec 4]

Well we certainly agree on that.

One other thing we agree on is Silva, he is an absolute animal. I like Jardine but I think his luck may have run out on this one. Have you seen that hypoxia training he does?? It is insane.

[TrickyNicky]

or maybe we'll see another flying scissor heel :hmmm:

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Whats funny is that Anderson Silva hasn't lost to a non-Japanese in 8 years, which was his first fight. In fact, he has a record against non-japanese fighters of 18-1. His record against Japanese fighters? 3-3.

[KcMizzou]

BTW Nick Diaz just beat Katsuya Inoue in Dream 3. HDnet Fights is off the hook and free. Doesn't get any better than that.
The Hansen/Alverez fight was nuts. That was a great show.

[Demonpenz]

hdnet fights are not only free but there is no better quality picture

[Ceej]

I know this is off-topic, sorta.

But, I've watched plenty of his street fights online - how is Kimbo Slice doing in MMA?

[Fishpicker]

I know this is off-topic, sorta.

But, I've watched plenty of his street fights online - how is Kimbo Slice doing in MMA?

2-0

1 KO
1 sub

Personally, I think Kimbo is to MMA what Tommy Gunn was to boxing.

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I hope they show the Nakamura fight on 84. that guy is pure judoka and he still rocks the mullet, what balls!

[Valiant]

2-0

1 KO
1 sub

Personally, I think Kimbo is to MMA what Tommy Gunn was to boxing.

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I hope they show the Nakamura fight on 84. that guy is pure judoka and he still rocks the mullet, what balls!

Honestly I think Kimbo has the heart to do well in MMA, not championship material, but better then that POS Lesner..

[raybec 4]

Honestly I think Kimbo has the heart to do well in MMA, not championship material, but better then that POS Lesner..

He does have the heart, and he is smart. He just needs to learn some ground skills. He would never beat a Randy or Fedor but he could be good.

[BIG_DADDY]

The Hansen/Alverez fight was nuts. That was a great show.

Yea it was.

[BIG_DADDY]

Honestly I think Kimbo has the heart to do well in MMA, not championship material, but better then that POS Lesner..

Lesner would waste Kimbo.

[xbarretx]

Whats funny is that Anderson Silva hasn't lost to a non-Japanese in 8 years, which was his first fight. In fact, he has a record against non-japanese fighters of 18-1. His record against Japanese fighters? 3-3.

id like to see Okami / Silva 2

;) GO OKAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[raybec 4]

id like to see Okami / Silva 2

;) GO OKAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not, the UFC doesn't have anyone else to throw at him at 185, that's why Bisping moved down.

[El Jefe]

I know this is off-topic, sorta.

But, I've watched plenty of his street fights online - how is Kimbo Slice doing in MMA?

2-0
He hasn't fought anybody good, he beat up Ray Mercer a while ago, and beat Tank Abbott also.