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Logical
05-27-2008, 09:25 PM
I bet one of my Charger fan lunch companions that the Chiefs would not score 200 points this season.

So what do you think will he be buying me lunch?

Hammock Parties
05-27-2008, 09:26 PM
The Chiefs scored 255 last year.

Are you brain dead?

Skip Towne
05-27-2008, 09:27 PM
You'll win. 200 points is a LOT of field goals.

KcMizzou
05-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Your friend found a sucker.

the Talking Can
05-27-2008, 09:29 PM
I bet one of my Charger fan lunch companions that the Chiefs would not score 200 points this season.

So what do you think will he be buying me lunch?

do you know what 16 x 14 is?

we averaged 14 ppg last year.....

Rausch
05-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Your doc give you a script for the left handed smokes?

We scored 226 last year...

Coach
05-27-2008, 09:31 PM
I bet one of my Charger fan lunch companions that the Chiefs would not score 200 points this season.

So what do you think will he be buying me lunch?

I'd bet the farm that the Chiefs would score more than 200 points, as it has previously mentioned that they scored 226 last year.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
05-27-2008, 09:31 PM
even the 49ers scored over 200 last year

Rausch
05-27-2008, 09:33 PM
even the 49ers scored over 200 last year

EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE scored over 200 pts last year.

ALL OF THEM...

Fish
05-27-2008, 09:33 PM
Well that was dumb.....

StcChief
05-27-2008, 09:34 PM
you'll be buying lunch. 200 points. are we just playing 3 quarters....

the Talking Can
05-27-2008, 09:36 PM
EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE scored over 200 pts last year.

ALL OF THEM...

ROFL

DaFace
05-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Worst point totals in the NFL since 2000:

2007 - 219 - 49ers
2006 - 168 - Raiders
2005 - 232 - Browns
2004 - 231 - Bears
2003 - 225 - Cardinals
2002 - 213 - Texans
2001 - 226 - Bengals
2000 - 161 - Browns

I'm expecting us to be bad, but not 2000 Browns or 2006 Raiders bad. I think you're screwed.

KcMizzou
05-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Meh... typical passive-aggressive Logical thread...

Carry on.

SBK
05-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Logical, exceeding our beliefs of how stupid an old guy can become on a daily basis.

Hammock Parties
05-27-2008, 09:42 PM
Logical, exceeding our beliefs of how stupid an old guy can become on a daily basis.

The correct rip is "Logical, exceeding our beliefs of how stupid an old guy with an MBA can become on a daily basis."

Coach
05-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Worst point totals in the NFL since 2000:

2007 - 219 - 49ers
2006 - 168 - Raiders
2005 - 232 - Browns
2004 - 231 - Bears
2003 - 225 - Cardinals
2002 - 213 - Texans
2001 - 226 - Bengals
2000 - 161 - Browns

I'm expecting us to be bad, but not 2000 Browns or 2006 Raiders bad. I think you're screwed.

Oh God, that Raider offense was so bad, it was awesome to watch it as a Chief fan.

Pasta Little Brioni
05-27-2008, 09:49 PM
wow i knew the raiders were bad that year, but damn i never realized they only scored 10 points a game :eek: damn

Skip Towne
05-27-2008, 09:49 PM
The correct rip is "Logical, exceeding our beliefs of how stupid an old guy with an MBA can become on a daily basis."

MBA? I thought he was an engineer.

Logical
05-27-2008, 09:49 PM
do you know what 16 x 14 is?

we averaged 14 ppg last year.....
Yes I know and I expect us to do worse this year.

blueballs
05-27-2008, 09:49 PM
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Logical
05-27-2008, 09:52 PM
MBA? I thought he was an engineer.
I am an EE and I have an MBA as well. I also have 87 hours towards a Chemistry degree before I changed to engineering.

Coach
05-27-2008, 09:55 PM
Yes I know and I expect us to do worse this year.

Eh, I don't think so. You think that a offense with no running game, a rookie QB, pass-protection was in shambles, no healthy LJ, and on top of it, a special offensive coordinator who couldn't tell the difference between his elbows and his ass.


Now the QB is in his 1/2 year as a starter/majority playing time, possible healthy LJ, O-line talent seems improved, a offensive coordinator who has experience on what he's doing, etc. I think there'll be improvement in the PPG department.

Probably by 3, from 14.4 to 17.4.

Logical
05-27-2008, 09:58 PM
Eh, I don't think so. You think that a offense with no running game, a rookie QB, pass-protection was in shambles, no healthy LJ, and on top of it, a special offensive coordinator who couldn't tell the difference between his elbows and his ass.


Now the QB is in his 1/2 year as a starter/majority playing time, possible healthy LJ, O-line talent seems improved, a offensive coordinator who has experience on what he's doing, etc. I think there'll be improvement in the PPG department.

Probably by 3, from 14.4 to 17.4.I know this I will be truly shocked if this offense manages 17 ppg.

Pasta Little Brioni
05-27-2008, 10:04 PM
of course you do that's why you are ill-logical, but there is really no excuse for this offense not to improve. none whatsoever.

Coach
05-27-2008, 10:09 PM
I know this I will be truly shocked if this offense manages 17 ppg.

I think they are capable of. Will that translate more W's? Probably not, since the coaching staff will find a way to **** up.

BigRock
05-27-2008, 11:10 PM
Of the many highlights here, I think making a bet against your team with the fan of another team is perhaps the topper. In other words, even a fan of a division rival thought this was stupid.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-27-2008, 11:14 PM
I hope it's McDonald's instead of Chez Trulez for your sake. Do you have to buy him lunch twice if they score 400? They won't, but I'll bet they score 300. Hell, let's make an avatar bet for 1 month. Up the ante if you like. I'll bet you they score 300 points this year. What say you?

keg in kc
05-27-2008, 11:15 PM
You're screwed.

KcMizzou
05-27-2008, 11:17 PM
You're screwed.Yep... sucker bet.

Free lunch.

keg in kc
05-27-2008, 11:49 PM
Yep... sucker bet.

Free lunch.Maybe Jim just wanted a lose-lose proposition, to fit his sunny disposition. Either he loses the bet and buys lunch, or the team's offense is historically bad.

KcMizzou
05-28-2008, 12:08 AM
Maybe Jim just wanted a lose-lose proposition, to fit his sunny disposition. Either he loses the bet and buys lunch, or the team's offense is historically bad.I dunno... maybe another passive-aggressive jab, and a shot at a 100 post thread, is worth paying for a lunch?

Or maybe he's just screwing with us... and there was no bet in the first place.

The guy's pretty proud of his negative attitude. Hell, he dubbed himself Dr. Doom at one point, and I'm pretty sure he's not a comic book geek.

I'm alright with Jim... but you have to take him for what he is...

A guy who'll piss on any parade at the first opportunity.

Logical
05-28-2008, 12:39 AM
Maybe Jim just wanted a lose-lose proposition, to fit his sunny disposition. Either he loses the bet and buys lunch, or the team's offense is historically bad.You must admit it is also a win win, either they are much better than I am expecting thus more interesting to watch this season or I get a free lunch.:shrug:

Have I mentioned how much I hate Herm and his stupid offensive philosophy. Guy does seem to be able to draft though.

Logical
05-28-2008, 12:42 AM
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A guy who'll piss on any parade at the first opportunity.
I used to be an optimist until I spent from 1975 to the present being dissappointed over and over by the Chiefs.

Valiant
05-28-2008, 01:09 AM
Your best bet is you thought he said 300 pts.. 300 / 16 = 18.75.. A little more then two touchdowns and a FG a game.. I think with a better Oline this year that is possible..

acesn8s
05-28-2008, 01:10 AM
Perhaps we are missing the ultimate goal. Logical loses thus buying a fan of a rival team a steak covered in an antifreeze sauce.

kcxiv
05-28-2008, 01:21 AM
Yes I know and I expect us to do worse this year.

There is no way we do worse on offense this year. I still think we are going to suck, but its going to be the Defense that kills us the first half of the year.

In all honesty, i think that was a dumb bet. Its only a lunch, but still lol

Old Dog
05-28-2008, 06:55 AM
You must admit it is also a win win, either they Have I mentioned how much I hate Herm and his stupid offensive philosophy.

He HAS an offensive philosophy???

Duck Dog
05-28-2008, 07:25 AM
He HAS an offensive philosophy???


Trick question.

Stryker
05-28-2008, 07:26 AM
Look on the bright side. You can bet your $4k + in the sports betting section of the casino on NO to the Chiefs scoring 300 pts this season and get your money back! ;)

little jacob
05-28-2008, 08:59 AM
offense will suck terribly again but they cant be any worse than last year

question is if the defense will be respectable after the addition of dorsey. i think adding dorsey and losing allen is still a net gain

StcChief
05-28-2008, 09:09 AM
He HAS an offensive philosophy???BuccBall all the way baby.

Micjones
05-28-2008, 10:02 AM
Be glad it's just lunch you bet.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-28-2008, 01:51 PM
I hope it's McDonald's instead of Chez Trulez for your sake. Do you have to buy him lunch twice if they score 400? They won't, but I'll bet they score 300. Hell, let's make an avatar bet for 1 month. Up the ante if you like. I'll bet you they score 300 points this year. What say you?

I guess I haven't earned the right to an avy bet with Jim yet. One of these days...........

KCrockaholic
05-28-2008, 02:59 PM
Eh, I don't think so. You think that a offense with no running game, a rookie QB, pass-protection was in shambles, no healthy LJ, and on top of it, a special offensive coordinator who couldn't tell the difference between his elbows and his ass.


Now the QB is in his 1/2 year as a starter/majority playing time, possible healthy LJ, O-line talent seems improved, a offensive coordinator who has experience on what he's doing, etc. I think there'll be improvement in the PPG department.

Probably by 3, from 14.4 to 17.4.


i could definately see 17 points a game this year. but the chiefs offense will improve, not regress. so yeah somebody on this board will be buying lunch

keg in kc
05-28-2008, 03:45 PM
i think adding dorsey and losing allen is still a net gainBlasphemy!!

Although I completely agree with you.

Simply Red
05-28-2008, 04:01 PM
Your doc give you a script for the left handed smokes?

We scored 226 last year...

Was that including pos------------------------?



oh, that's right.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
05-28-2008, 04:12 PM
I think 300 points is pretty likely. Our Defense will suck pretty bad and we'll average a lot of points per game in the 4th quarter alone scoring on soft defenses in hurry up. 300 points wont translate to wins though.

Logical
05-28-2008, 05:48 PM
He HAS an offensive philosophy???
Of course, don't score too fast because it will put your defense on the field.

Logical
05-28-2008, 05:51 PM
Look on the bright side. You can bet your $4k + in the sports betting section of the casino on NO to the Chiefs scoring 300 pts this season and get your money back! ;)
Hey can you do that, that sounds like a great idea. A ChiefsPlanet sportsbook.

beach tribe
05-28-2008, 05:54 PM
Blasphemy!!

Although I completely agree with you.

That's actually a moot point. We were getting Dorsey either way.

Is losing allen,(paired with Dorsey) and gaining the players that we aquired with the picks a net gain?

We'll see. Doubtful.

Dorsey, and Allen would have been......sigh.

And I still believe we could have signed Allen with the same protections the Vikes recieved. Carl just did not want to pay him period.

keg in kc
05-28-2008, 06:05 PM
That's actually a moot point. We were getting Dorsey either way.I said it on draft day and I haven't changed my mind: without the 2nd first rounder, we either take Albert at 5 or try to trade down and take him later. We don't take Dorsey, and there's an absolute meltdown here when it happens. The extra pick for Allen is the only reason Dorsey's a Chief now. In my opinion.

beach tribe
05-28-2008, 06:10 PM
I said it on draft day and I haven't changed my mind: without the 2nd first rounder, we either take Albert at 5 or try to trade down and take him later. We don't take Dorsey, and there's an absolute meltdown here when it happens. The extra pick for Allen is the only reason Dorsey's a Chief now. In my opinion.

Nope. No way we pass up Dorsey at 5. I think we trade up into the first, and grab a lineman, or we get one later. No one is dumb enough(not even Carl) to pass up the best player in the draft at 5, and I think the rest of our draft(staying true to our board) is proof of that.

beach tribe
05-28-2008, 06:19 PM
No one thought Dorsey would fall to us. If there was any way we would pass on him, we would have accepted NO's lucrative offer.

keg in kc
05-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Nope. No way we pass up Dorsey at 5. I think we trade up into the first, and grab a lineman, or we get one later. No one is dumb enough(not even Carl) to pass up the best player in the draft at 5, and I think the rest of our draft(staying true to our board) is proof of that.I don't think it would have been a dumb move, first of all -- in that situation -- to trade down (it would have been a dumb move to trade down when Dorsey was sitting there and we had 17). But without the Allen trade, all we have is #5, one second, and one third. That's not enough ammo to make any sort of upward move back into the first, not without sacrificing 2009's draft to do it. Moving down is the much, much smarter play in that situation. We needed both quantity and quality from this draft. That's part of the reason I believe we'd have done that.

And it's not really a matter of Dorsey and Allen (let's say they take Dorsey, as you believe and I do not...) versus Dorsey and Albert, anyway. It's Dorsey and Allen versus Dorsey and Albert and Charles and Morgan. Or if they sacrifice their 2nd, 3rd and some other group of picks to move up for a tackle, let's say it's Allen, Dorsey and, from Houston at 26, Duane Brown from VPI. Instead of Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Charles, Cottam and Morgan.

I'll take what we got. The Allen trade got us this draft, whether it got us Glenn Dorsey or not (which I believe it did).

And I would trade Allen straight up for Dorsey 7 days a week a twice on Sunday. Even though he hasn't played a down in the NFL. Elite defensive tackles are rare. Pass rushing defensive ends are not.

beach tribe
05-28-2008, 06:41 PM
I don't think it would have been a dumb move, first of all -- in that situation -- to trade down (it would have been a dumb move to trade down when Dorsey was sitting there and we had 17). But without the Allen trade, all we have is #5, one second, and one third. That's not enough ammo to make any sort of upward move back into the first, not without sacrificing 2009's draft to do it. Moving down is the much, much smarter play in that situation. We needed both quantity and quality from this draft. That's part of the reason I believe we'd have done that.

And it's not really a matter of Dorsey and Allen (let's say they take Dorsey, as you believe and I do not...) versus Dorsey and Albert, anyway. It's Dorsey and Allen versus Dorsey and Albert and Charles and Morgan. Or if they sacrifice their 2nd, 3rd and some other group of picks to move up for a tackle, let's say it's Allen, Dorsey and, from Houston at 26, Duane Brown from VPI. Instead of Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Charles, Cottam and Morgan.

I'll take what we got. The Allen trade got us this draft, whether it got us Glenn Dorsey or not (which I believe it did).

And I would trade Allen straight up for Dorsey 7 days a week a twice on Sunday. Even though he hasn't played a down in the NFL. Elite defensive tackles are rare. Pass rushing defensive ends are not.

I would take Dorsey as well, any day of the week, but in my mind, I believe they would have either taken Dorsey, which would have given us a terrifying D-line, or they would have accepted NOs offer, and we would be looking at Ellis, Allen, and I believe another second, and another first, and maybe a second in 2009(I can't remember) in next years draft. Or we would have used the picks we got from NO to trade up, and we'd be looking at Allen, Ellis, and Albert. OR we use the picks we would have gotten, and next year went after Oher with the picks we aquired. Don't get me wrong, I like what transpired. I just don't think we would have passed on Dorsey.
I'm happy with what we got, I just don't think we can ask whether we would rather have Dorsey, or Allen, because I believe we would have them both.

Logical
05-28-2008, 07:08 PM
I said it on draft day and I haven't changed my mind: without the 2nd first rounder, we either take Albert at 5 or try to trade down and take him later. We don't take Dorsey, and there's an absolute meltdown here when it happens. The extra pick for Allen is the only reason Dorsey's a Chief now. In my opinion.Agreed, sucks but that is just the way it works.

whoman69
05-28-2008, 07:14 PM
Yep... sucker bet.

Free lunch.

Its possible. We have three guys starting on the line that we are crossing our fingers over. We've added no depth at any of the skill positions. Having said that, its not going to be Croyle's fault.

milkman
05-29-2008, 08:41 PM
I used to be an optimist until I spent from 1975 to the present being dissappointed over and over by the Chiefs.

I've gone the same way, but I think you crossed the line from negativity over into downright stupidity.

milkman
05-29-2008, 08:43 PM
He HAS an offensive philosophy???

I've started to call it the Hermeroid offense, and I'm hoping it catches on.

milkman
05-29-2008, 08:44 PM
Nope. No way we pass up Dorsey at 5. I think we trade up into the first, and grab a lineman, or we get one later. No one is dumb enough(not even Carl) to pass up the best player in the draft at 5, and I think the rest of our draft(staying true to our board) is proof of that.

I agree with Keg.

Without the Allen trade, we almost certainly would have traded down to take a shot at Clady, and another position elsewhere.

Sure-Oz
05-29-2008, 08:48 PM
This should be Royals score less than 200 this season