This will prolly catch some heat, but...

[Consistent1]

Why can't this guy confront somebody talking spit about him? I like Hamilton a ton, and Milton can be a bitch, but why do the douches talking about the game get to insult people?

Bradley upset with comments by Royals announcer
9 minutes ago

Buzz Up PrintKANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Milton Bradley stormed out of the Texas Rangers clubhouse after an 11-5 victory Wednesday night over Kansas City and bounded up four flights of stairs looking for Royals television announcer Ryan Lefebvre.

Bradley, who was the designated hitter, heard what he considered derogatory remarks made by Lefebvre on a TV in the Rangers clubhouse.

General manager Jon Daniels and manager Ron Washington were close behind and intercepted Bradley before he reached Lefebvre.

“I don’t want to get necessarily into the details,” Daniels said. “He was upset. Someone who doesn’t know him was passing judgment on TV. It was obvious he was hurt by the comments.”

Bradley never reached Lefebvre, although he was within about 20 feet of him in the TV booth before being led back down to the clubhouse.

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“There was no incident,” Daniels said.

Upon returning to the clubhouse, Bradley screamed at teammates and broke down in tears.

“I’m tired of people bringing me down,” Bradley said. “It wears on you. I love you guys, all you guys. I’m strong, but I’m not that strong. All I want to do is play baseball and make a better life for my kid than I had.”

Several of Bradley’s teammates consoled him after he calmed down.

Lefebvre, who is the son of former major league manager Jim Lefebvre, said he met with Daniels and Washington about his on-the-air comments, but did not talk to Bradley. Lefebvre said the comments were intended to praise Josh Hamilton, who missed nearly four years of professional baseball with cocaine and alcohol additions, rather than tear down Bradley.

“It was a conversation about how Josh Hamilton has turned his life around and has been accountable for his mistakes,” Lefebvre told The Associated Press. “Right now, it seems like the baseball world and fans are rooting for him. … It doesn’t seem like Milton Bradley has done the same thing in his life.”

The oft-injured Bradley has a history of losing his temper.

He slammed a plastic bottle at the feet of a fan in the right-field seats at Dodger Stadium in 2004 after someone threw it on the field. With San Diego in the pennant chase last September, he tore the ACL in his right knee when he was spun to the ground by Padres manager Bud Black, who was trying to keep him from an umpire.

He was suspended for five games after slamming the bottle, and had a four-game suspension for tossing a bag of balls onto the field after an ejection. There was a dugout confrontation with Cleveland manager Eric Wedge during spring training in 2004 before getting traded to Los Angeles.

Bradley claimed umpire Mike Winters baited the player into the confrontation and directed a profanity at him last September. Winters was suspended the final five days of the regular season and didn’t work the postseason.

“We weren’t singling out Milton Bradley,” Lefebvre said. “We also spent a lot of time complimenting Milton Bradley, but that’s not what he heard when he was in the clubhouse.

“We weren’t tearing up Milton Bradley. I told (Washington and Daniels) this wasn’t a Milton Bradley rip session, but just based on the pictures we’ve seen in this series of him walking to the dugout all the way to right field, dropping his bat, making gestures to the fans in right field and above the dugout and taunting them. He’s the only person in baseball I know that does that type of stuff.”

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[Mr. Arrowhead]

Milton is a bitch nuff said

[little jacob]

he didn't really say anything. frank white said that hamilton would be a good role model for bradley, and lefevbre said that it was inspiring that if you work on your problems you can turn you life around, and contrasted that to bradley who's had behavioral problems everywhere he went.

it's ironic that bradley responded to criticism of behavioral problems by flying off the handle and storming up to the press box to try and kick a commentator's @$$. way to refute him, milton

[Deberg_1990]

it's ironic that bradley responded to criticism of behavioral problems by flying off the handle and storming up to the press box to try and kick a commentator's @$$. way to refute him, milton



HAHAHA. Way to make people change their impression of you Milton. ROFL

[Consistent1]

My problem with it is this, if you talk, you walk. Maybe he didn't say anything terrible about Milton. Still, if he was offended by it, give him a chance to talk to Le-fag-e. I would like this stuff to happen more often in reality.

[chasedude]

Did Milton Bradley forget to take his Midol?

[eazyb81]

Jesus Christ, what a ****in pussy. It's not like the guy called him a racist name or child molester. It's obvious he has had some issues in his life, and he can't stop people from talking about it just because he doesn't them to.

[eazyb81]

My problem with it is this, if you talk, you walk. Maybe he didn't say anything terrible about Milton. Still, if he was offended by it, give him a chance to talk to Le-Rump Ranger-e. I would like this stuff to happen more often in reality.

Why? So Bradley can try and intimidate him so he doesn't say anything "bad" about him? That's laughable. In the real world, you can't react to everything someone says about you or you will get arrested, fired, etc.

[Consistent1]

Jesus Christ, what a ****in pussy. It's not like the guy called him a racist name or child molester. It's obvious he has had some issues in his life, and he can't stop people from talking about it just because he doesn't them to.

Sure enough, I agree mostly. However, if you think somebody at work talked shit about you, don't you go call them out? Plus, you don't give millions of people a chance to hear it. As great as Hamilton is, and is pretty darn good, he has had worse problems than Milton. Just a fact. If you had to bet who, out of those two, would flip things up, and not be playing next year....who would not pick JH? Bradley may be a prick, but he should have had a chance to express his opinion too. There wouldn't be tons of people listening either.

[Fish]

Milton is the psycho ex-girlfriend......

[little jacob]

My problem with it is this, if you talk, you walk. Maybe he didn't say anything terrible about Milton. Still, if he was offended by it, give him a chance to talk to Le-Rump Ranger-e. I would like this stuff to happen more often in reality.

so basically you think that anytime anyone is critical of an athlete they should have to do so at peril of getting stomped into oblivion. what the hell do we have commentators for then?

bradley is an idiot and always will be, him trying to put his jackboots upside this announcer's head only proves more that the criticism is totally valid

[Consistent1]

so basically you think that anytime anyone is critical of an athlete they should have to do so at peril of getting stomped into oblivion. what the hell do we have commentators for then?

bradley is an idiot and always will be, him trying to put his jackboots upside this announcer's head only proves more that the criticism is totally valid

Hey, all he was doing was trying to find the guy. If you are pissed about something, don't you get the chance to call somebody out? I would bet you that if he got to confront Le-homo, nothing would have happened. Mr mouth would have apologized out of fear, and that would have been that. That is the way real life has always been.

[beavis]

I think this all stems from his mother naming him Milton.

[little jacob]

Hey, all he was doing was trying to find the guy. If you are pissed about something, don't you get the chance to call somebody out? I would bet you that if he got to confront Le-homo, nothing would have happened. Mr mouth would have apologized out of fear, and that would have been that. That is the way real life has always been.

He didn't have anything to apologize for. Everything he said was factual. you want to call someone out because you are a pansy who cant take anyone saying anything bad about you then do it into a microphone.

if milton bradley can't deal with the fact that he's a crybaby who's made his own bed with a long pattern of acting like a two year old in K-mart all around the major leagues then he needs to grow up. if there was any doubt what an enormous bagina he was before, there isn't any now.

if you want people to stop being critical of you for being an idiot then STOP BEING AN IDIOT

[Ultra Peanut]

Why don't you go fight an ump about it, Milton? Watch your step!

[Consistent1]

He didn't have anything to apologize for. Everything he said was factual. you want to call someone out because you are a pansy who cant take anyone saying anything bad about you then do it into a microphone.

if milton bradley can't deal with the fact that he's a crybaby who's made his own bed with a long pattern of acting like a two year old in K-mart all around the major leagues then he needs to grow up. if there was any doubt what an enormous bagina he was before, there isn't any now.

if you want people to stop being critical of you for being an idiot then STOP BEING AN IDIOT


True enough, he has messed up a bit. He is producing like crazy now though. Maybe he is making his amends. Look at all the jerks we have in pro sports. I may be wrong, but has Milton ever been arrested, flunked a pee test. etc?

[Adept Havelock]

bradley is an idiot and always will be, him trying to put his jackboots upside this announcer's head only proves more that the criticism is totally valid

Bingo.

Milton Bradley has proved Ryan's point for him. Nice job. MB's just another pathetic headcase that won't grow up. Talk about a junior high school mentality. LMAO

Security should have let the idiot through just long enough for him to get himself arrested for assault and battery, and suspended from MLB. JMO. Might have been a decent PR move for Ryan as well.

[CoMoChief]

Milton is a dildo. I can't believe the Royals were even thinking about signing this moron.

Milton just proved the broadcasters point to him. Milton has been a hot headed tempered wreck everywhere he's been. This issue with the Royals broadcaster just proves that.

[Consistent1]

Bingo.

Milton Bradley has proved Ryan's point for him. Nice job. MB's just another pathetic headcase that won't grow up. Talk about a junior high school mentality. LMAO

Security should have let the idiot through just long enough for him to get himself arrested and suspended from MLB, IMO.

This is true of most athletes though. They have it easy enough to start, then have to deal with things in the end. Can you picture how good Pacman would be by now if he hadn't trucked up? Hate word filters BTW. Ha.

[little jacob]

True enough, he has messed up a bit. He is producing like crazy now though. Maybe he is making his amends. Look at all the jerks we have in pro sports. I may be wrong, but has Milton ever been arrested, flunked a pee test. etc?

i guess he's a saint... all he did was try to beat up a broadcaster, his manager, and an umpire. :rolleyes:

[Consistent1]

BTW, my wife and I had a big argument last night. I am just playing devil's advocate for fun. Makes me feel better. lol

[Adept Havelock]

This is true of most athletes though. They have it easy enough to start, then have to deal with things in the end. Really? The few athletes I've known are pretty adjusted, everyday kind of guys. They aren't a little kid throwing temper tantrums masquerading as a grown man like MB.

Can you picture how good Pacman would be by now if he hadn't trucked up?
Don't know, don't care. A huge portion of the game is mental, and he's proved he is not at all intelligent (in everyday life and the football sense).

Kind of a shame...it would have been worth it to watch MB's temper tantrum on ESPN as he was being led away by the cops. Oh, and his inevitable post-release "I'm the victim" whining. Judging from your posts #5 and #9, you would have been a big fan of it. :shake:

[doomy3]

I actually kind of like that someone was ready to confront LeFebvre. He really comes across as a whiney little bitch on the air, IMO. He talks about a lot of people, recently making fun of Magglio Ordonez's hair for a whole inning. It's about time one of these guys does something about it. You can't just sit up there and talk shit about someone and not expect to be confronted about it.

[doomy3]

BTW, Bradley is still a dumbass, but I still am glad someone said something about Ryan's on-air antics.

[Consistent1]

Really? The few athletes I've known are pretty adjusted, everyday kind of guys. They aren't a little kid throwing temper tantrums masquerading as a grown man like MB.

Don't know, don't care. A huge portion of the game is mental, and he's proved he is not at all intelligent (in everyday life and the football sense).

Kind of a shame...it would have been worth it to watch MB's temper tantrum on ESPN as he was being led away by the cops. Oh, and his inevitable post-release "I'm the victim" whining. Judging from your posts #5 and #9, you would have been a big fan of it. :shake:

Fine, but could the Royals use this, baggage or not?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6406

Leading the league in average, but who is the guy KC has that had some problems?

[Adept Havelock]

I actually kind of like that someone was ready to confront LeFebvre. He really comes across as a whiney little bitch on the air, IMO. He talks about a lot of people, recently making fun of Magglio Ordonez's hair for a whole inning. It's about time one of these guys does something about it. You can't just sit up there and talk shit about someone and not expect to be confronted about it.
If somebody talking about your hair, or (correctly) pointing out you're a douchebag like he did with MB really gets under your skin, you've got more issues than Ryan IMO.

Sure, Ryan's a poor announcer. That doesn't excuse reacting to it like a Junior High school kid. They are an adult and a public figure. If they can't handle a little razzing, I have no sympathy.

Fine, but could the Royals use this, baggage or not?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6406

Not when it comes attached to a whiny little douche who can't get his s**t together. JMO.

Leading the league in average, but who is the guy KC has that got that has had some problems?
Jose Guillen. I wasn't a fan of that signing either. At least he hasn't shown anything that would be a red flag since he got here. :shrug:

[Consistent1]

I actually kind of like that someone was ready to confront LeFebvre. He really comes across as a whiney little bitch on the air, IMO. He talks about a lot of people, recently making fun of Magglio Ordonez's hair for a whole inning. It's about time one of these guys does something about it. You can't just sit up there and talk shit about someone and not expect to be confronted about it.

Word

[little jacob]

i dont know or anything, but i'm guessing his father was either absent or he was a dbag too. nobody ever taught him to behave like an adult... seems pretty likely.

[doomy3]

If somebody talking about your hair, or (correctly) pointing out you're a douchebag like he did with MB really gets under your skin, you've got more issues than Ryan IMO.

Sure, Ryan's a poor announcer. That doesn't excuse reacting to it like a Junior High school kid.


I guess that's where my opinion differs. If Ryan wasn't acting like a junior high kid talking shit about numerous people he doesn't know at all, then the problem wouldn't exist. I don't think this is standard practice. I can't remember Holtus or Lenny talking shit about the players on other teams for no reason.

[Adept Havelock]

I guess that's where my opinion differs. If Ryan wasn't acting like a junior high kid talking shit about numerous people he doesn't know at all, then the problem wouldn't exist. I don't think this is standard practice. I can't remember Holtus or Lenny talking shit about the players on other teams for no reason.


They are an adult and a public figure. If they can't handle a little razzing, I have no sympathy.

:shrug: Besides, I don't see what Ryan said about MB that was out of line. The douche has blown up at fans who were giving him grief on the field. I don't care for it, but it's part of the game. There is zero excuse for assaulting a fan over words. Be a man, and let it roll off your back.

i dont know or anything, but i'm guessing his father was either absent or he was a dbag too. nobody ever taught him to behave like an adult... seems pretty likely.

Yep.

[Consistent1]

If somebody talking about your hair, or (correctly) pointing out you're a douchebag like he did with MB really gets under your skin, you've got more issues than Ryan IMO.

Sure, Ryan's a poor announcer. That doesn't excuse reacting to it like a Junior High school kid. They are an adult and a public figure. If they can't handle a little razzing, I have no sympathy.



Not when it comes attached to a whiny little douche who can't get his s**t together. JMO.

Jose Guillen. I wasn't a fan of that signing either. At least he hasn't shown anything that would be a red flag since he got here. :shrug:


Haha, you even caught it before I had the chance to edit. Plus for that my brother. I am not as think as you dumb I am.

[doomy3]

:shrug:


But why shouldn't LeFebvre have to act like an adult? In the real world if someone I didn't know was talking shit about me in a public forum like the radio or TV with no real reason, I would confront them too. Does that make me not an adult? I think that is somewhat normal.

[Adept Havelock]

But why shouldn't LeFebvre have to act like an adult? In the real world if someone I didn't know was talking shit about me in a public forum like the radio or TV with no real reason, I would confront them too. Does that make me not an adult? I think that is somewhat normal.

OK, what did Ryan say about Milton Bradly that wasn't "acting like an adult"? I was listening, and didn't hear anything that wasn't true.

As for the rest, I guess you've never heard John Madden mocking a player with hair covering the name on their jersey. I suppose you believe that gives the player the right to storm into the broadcast booth like a whiny little bitch. :rolleyes:

If MB had calmly walked up and asked politely to speak to Ryan, I seriously doubt he would have been "escorted" back to the clubhouse. He likely would have had the chance to speak with Ryan. The fact he was, and that he threw a temper tantrum in front of his team afterwards tells me he was acting like a pissed off little kid.

Like I said, they should have let the little douchebag at Ryan just long enough for him to get himself arrested and suspended from MLB for a while. That's about the only way an idiot like him will learn to control his temper.

[Consistent1]

But why shouldn't LeFebvre have to act like an adult? In the real world if someone I didn't know was talking shit about me in a public forum like the radio or TV with no real reason, I would confront them too. Does that make me not an adult? I think that is somewhat normal.

Like you said earlier, I wish Maggs would have gotten a shot at him. That would have been pretty. Haha.

[Consistent1]

Milton must be a problem in reality, I am just talkin here. Look at those stats from SD last year. The guy must be dick, or they would have kept him. Whatever, you guys rock.

[keg in kc]

But why shouldn't LeFebvre have to act like an adult? In the real world if someone I didn't know was talking shit about me in a public forum like the radio or TV with no real reason, I would confront them too. Does that make me not an adult? I think that is somewhat normal.This is like Jared Allen whining about Carl Peterson calling him an "at risk" player after 3 DUIs. Discussing a player's well-known, well-reported history of behavioral problems is not "talking shit", and Bradley needs to grow the f*ck up. He's making himself look like a ticking time bomb, and like he doesn't have either the brains or the guts to take an honest look in the mirror.

FYI, Lefebre was on the air doing postgame shit, which is why he couldn't get to him.

The adult thing to do would be to take it out on the Royals today, at the plate. Which he might well do.

[Micjones]

Let me get this straight...

Ryan Lefebvre lauds the formerly drug-addicted MLB player who was suspended by said league for an abuse of the substance abuse policy (both temporarily and later indefinitely). The player that was sent home from spring training by his skipper for those very same "off the field" problems.

And he uses THAT GUY as the role model for a player who has only ever shown a problem with controlling his temper?

Gee... I wonder why THAT PLAYER might want a word with him.

[Consistent1]

Let me get this straight...

Ryan Lefebvre lauds the formerly drug-addicted MLB player who was suspended by said league for an abuse of the substance abuse policy (both temporarily and later indefinitely). The player that was sent home from spring training by his skipper for those very same "off the field" problems.

And he uses THAT GUY as the role model for a player who has only ever shown a problem controlling his temper?

Gee... I wonder why THAT PLAYER might want a word with him.

Somebody is with me here. Props.

[Micjones]

Thank you sir.

[doomy3]

Ryan and Split were talking about Hamilton and his story. I just didn't see any need for Ryan to take the opportunity to bash another player. He shifted the whole conversation to MB. What was the point? I just thought it was completely uncalled for and Ryan looks like a hack every time ha does it. Has MB been in trouble at all this year?

OK, what did Ryan say about Milton Bradly that wasn't "acting like an adult"? I was listening, and didn't hear anything that wasn't true.

As for the rest, I guess you've never heard John Madden mocking a player with hair covering the name on their jersey. I suppose you believe that gives the player the right to storm into the broadcast booth like a whiny little bitch. :rolleyes:

If MB had calmly walked up and asked politely to speak to Ryan, I seriously doubt he would have been "escorted" back to the clubhouse. He likely would have had the chance to speak with Ryan. The fact he was, and that he threw a temper tantrum in front of his team afterwards tells me he was acting like a pissed off little kid.

Like I said, they should have let the little douchebag at Ryan just long enough for him to get himself arrested and suspended from MLB for a while. That's about the only way an idiot like him will learn to control his temper.

[little jacob]

Let me get this straight...

Ryan Lefebvre lauds the formerly drug-addicted MLB player who was suspended by said league for an abuse of the substance abuse policy (both temporarily and later indefinitely). The player that was sent home from spring training by his skipper for those very same "off the field" problems.

And he uses THAT GUY as the role model for a player who has only ever shown a problem with controlling his temper?

Gee... I wonder why THAT PLAYER might want a word with him.

maybe because that other player turned his life around, took ownership of his problems, got treatment and dealt with them, and has behaved like an adult ever since?

meanwhile, bradley is the same toddler he has always been, which explains why he's played for 6 or 7 different teams since 2000

[little jacob]

Ryan and Split were talking about Hamilton and his story. I just didn't see any need for Ryan to take the opportunity to bash another player. He shifted the whole conversation to MB. What was the point? I just thought it was completely uncalled for and Ryan looks like a hack every time ha does it. Has MB been in trouble at all this year?

obviously you weren't listening too closely because split wasn't on tv last night, it was frank white.

[Consistent1]

maybe because that other player turned his life around, took ownership of his problems, got treatment and dealt with them, and has behaved like an adult ever since?

meanwhile, bradley is the same toddler he has always been, which explains why he's played for 6 or 7 different teams since 2000

He still isn't the same. If I had a case of beer, and few grams of blow, who might stray off-course?

[Dartgod]

Hey Milton! You lose, buddy.

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Potpourri%20Page/game-life1.JPG

[Consistent1]

Hey Milton! You lose, buddy.

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Potpourri%20Page/game-life1.JPG


Yeah, he is losing? What do you make per year my friend?

[little jacob]

He still isn't the same. If I had a case of beer, and few grams of blow, who might straw off-course?

go to a game sometime and sit next to where bradley is playing. if a couple of fans start giving him trouble he will start yelling at them and stomping around like a little girl. try it, it's fun. he's a child in an adult's body.

[Micjones]

maybe because that other player turned his life around, took ownership of his problems, got treatment and dealt with them, and has behaved like an adult ever since?

Bradley's never been in that kind of hot water either personally or concerning his Major League Baseball tenure. And obviously he feels as though he's put his problems behind him.

To breakdown in front of your teammates doesn't signify anger.
The man was hurt.

Honestly, when's the last time Bradley was in trouble?
And please don't bring up the situation with the umpire last year.
Winters was suspended for his role in the incident. The league decided he was the provocateur.

[Fish]

Yeah, he is losing? What do you make per year my friend?

Yeah Dartgod.... how much do you make??

Because it couldn't be more obvious that money = happiness!!

:rolleyes:

[Adept Havelock]

Has MB been in trouble at all this year?

I was unaware fans and commentators were to grant each player a tabula rasa at the beginning of each new season. :shake:

maybe because that other player turned his life around, took ownership of his problems, got treatment and dealt with them, and has behaved like an adult ever since?

meanwhile, bradley is the same toddler he has always been, which explains why he's played for 6 or 7 different teams since 2000

Precisely.

go to a game sometime and sit next to where bradley is playing. if a couple of fans start giving him trouble he will start yelling at them and stomping around like a little girl. try it, it's fun. he's a child in an adult's body.

Heh. That might make a trip to the ballpark tonight worthwhile. :fire:

On second thought...nah.


To breakdown in front of your teammates doesn't signify anger.

By itself, no. When you're behaving in a manner that stadium security deems posting a KCPD officer outside the broadcast facility as necessary, it's a red flag. When you are described as "screaming" at your teammates afterward, and have a proved history of a bad temper (attacking fans in the stands?? WTF?) that's the way to bet. :thumb:

The guy's a childish asshat who obviously still has temper issues.

[Consistent1]

go to a game sometime and sit next to where bradley is playing. if a couple of fans start giving him trouble he will start yelling at them and stomping around like a little girl. try it, it's fun. he's a child in an adult's body.


Well, bro, I will put it blunty, I don't give an F. I remember going to a game at Busch, and this asshat was giving Keith Hernandez a tough time the whole night. Not quite right for my age, but KH shoulda got a shot him, and he looked up many times. But he was better off in the end. I bet when he was having his steak and beer that he didn't give that asshole one thought.

[Dartgod]

Yeah, he is losing? What do you make per year my friend?
What the **** does that have to do with anything? ROFL

[Dartgod]

I bet when he was having his steak and beer that he didn't give that asshole one thought.
Which is exactly the way MB should have handled it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

My problem with it is this, if you talk, you walk. Maybe he didn't say anything terrible about Milton. Still, if he was offended by it, give him a chance to talk to Le-Rump Ranger-e. I would like this stuff to happen more often in reality.Simmer down, lil' Milt.

[Consistent1]

Yeah Dartgod.... how much do you make??

Because it couldn't be more obvious that money = happiness!!

:rolleyes:

It will do a lot more than you think. Milton has not many problems, other than getting pissed off. You don't want any fire from the dummies that the Royals have. The Rangers are doing pretty well with what they have. They have always needed how to figure out how to get some lock-down pitching. A-Rod, Gonzalez in his prime? Don't give me shit about "juice" either. I am sure plenty of current Royals have dabbled.

[doomy3]

obviously you weren't listening too closely because split wasn't on tv last night, it was frank white.


Whatever. I'm driving and typing on my phone. I was watching the whole thing just typed the wrong name. My point is still the same.

[MVChiefFan]

I know Bradley's an ass but I kind of thought it was odd when I heard him talking about Bradley in the same thought as Hamilton. I mean, we're talking apple's and oranges here (or maybe drugs and temper tantrums). Hamilton's a great story but I think it was poor judgement to throw Bradley in with him.

[Adept Havelock]

Whatever. I'm driving and typing on my phone. I was watching the whole thing just typed the wrong name. My point is still the same.

Hang the f*** up and drive before you kill another driver because you were not paying attention.

That's as dumb as DWI/DUI. :shake:

I know Bradley's an ass but I kind of thought it was odd when I heard him talking about Bradley in the same thought as Hamilton. I mean, we're talking apple's and oranges here (or maybe drugs and temper tantrums). Hamilton's a great story but I think it was poor judgement to throw Bradley in with him.

It was a poor comparison. Hamilton has dealt with his issues. MB, not so much.

Then again, what do you expect from a douchebag that beats his wife when she's 4 months pregnant. :shake:

[Micjones]

By itself, no. When you're behaving in a manner that stadium security deems posting a KCPD officer outside the broadcast facility as necessary, it's a red flag.

That was precautionary.
The man was upset and I'm guessing quite a bit bigger than Lefebvre.
That's just smart business.

When you are described as "screaming" at your teammates afterward

I'm wondering why those same teammates consoled him when all was said and done? Certainly not because he screamed on them. His General Manager understood him being upset over RL's comments.

The guy's a childish asshat who obviously still has temper issues.

The guy's got a temper. Big deal.
The other guy had an alcohol and cocaine problem.
He's probably not the guy you make a role model out of.

[little jacob]

let me add another angle to this. frank white and ryan were both being critical of him, sort of in passing, not overly critical. why did he get angry at ryan? white was agreeing and saying the same things.

anyone want to guess why bradley might have been angry at ryan and not frank white?

[Micjones]

Hang the f*** up and drive before you kill another driver because you were not paying attention.

That's as dumb as DWI/DUI. :shake:

I think that texting-while-driving can be unsafe as well, but please...please don't compare that with driving under the influence. That's silly.

[Micjones]

let me add another angle to this. frank white and ryan were both being critical of him, sort of in passing, not overly critical. why did he get angry at ryan? white was agreeing and saying the same things.

anyone want to guess why bradley might have been angry at ryan and not frank white?

Could it be the same reason why Lefebvre's lauding Hamilton and berating Bradley? Don't go there.
RL made those comments. Not Frank White. I'd direct my anger at the person who began that line of discussion too.

[little jacob]

Could it be the same reason why Lefebrve's lauding Hamilton and berating Bradley? Don't go there.

not really, since hamilton has actually grown up, and bradley hasn't as evidenced by the last 24 hours

[Micjones]

not really, since hamilton has actually grown up, and bradley hasn't as evidenced by the last 24 hours

Of course not...
:rolleyes:

Bradley was upset and all we know is that he went looking for Lefebvre.
Don't pretend that you know he would've thrown a punch.
He may have only exchanged words with him.

[Consistent1]

That was precautionary.
The man was upset and I'm guessing quite a bit bigger than Lefebrve.
That's just smart business.



I'm wondering why those same teammates consoled him when all was said and done? Certainly not because he screamed on them. His General Manager understood him being upset over RL's comments.



The guy's got a temper. Big deal.
The other guy had an alcohol and cocaine problem.
He's probably not the guy you make a role model out of.

Well, let's give Hamilton his due my friend. Can you imagine what he would have been? Damn, sad. He still is going on. Did any of guys read that story about he regrets all of his tatts? Can't get away from that, can we? Still he is way more likely to flip than Bradley.

[little jacob]

oh yeah, bradley has a long history of cooler heads prevailing.

at least he might have blown out his knee trying to get at him

[Adept Havelock]

I think that texting-while-driving can be unsafe as well, but please...please don't compare that with driving under the influence. That's silly.

I don't think so.

There was a study done by Harvard U. a couple of years ago that showed cell phone usage increased the liklihood of an accident by 4-5 times.

While they haven't done one on Text Messaging, that requires far more of your attention than talking on a phone. I wouldn't be surprised to see it was far higher when it comes to IM's.

Either way, it's a very ignorant thing to do, which is why a number of states have banned it.

80% of accidents happen because of a distracted driver. Are you really going to claim that IM'ing and web surfing isn't a distraction when you're behind the wheel?

http://www.nhtsa.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.416f74e8613992381601031046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID=detail_view&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=token&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=token&itemID=71052f9b8559a010VgnVCM1000002c567798RCRD&viewType=standard

Sure alcohol might be an even greater impairment. How much difference does that make to the victim when you T-Bone another car because your head was up your ass texting while driving, as opposed to DUI?

[Micjones]

Well, let's give Hamilton his due my friend. Can you imagine what he would have been? Damn, sad. He still is going on. Did any of guys read that story about he regrets all of his tatts? Can't get away from that, can we? Still he is way more likely to flip than Bradley.

Hamilton absolutely deserves praise for having turned his life around.
I just don't think you can juxtapose he and Bradley given the nature of their offenses.

[Adept Havelock]

The guy's got a temper. Big deal.

Yeah, he's attacked fans, and beat his wife when she's pregnant. Big deal. :rolleyes:

The other guy had an alcohol and cocaine problem.
He's probably not the guy you make a role model out of.

When he's faced his demons and dealt with them, why not?

Granted, MB still hasn't dealt with his issues so it is a poor comparison.


at least he might have blown out his knee trying to get at him

LMAO

[Micjones]

I don't think so.

There was a study done by Harvard U. a couple of years ago that showed cell phone usage increased the liklihood of an accident by 4-5 times.

While they haven't done one on Text Messaging, that requires far more of your attention than talking on a phone. I wouldn't be surprised to see it was far higher when it comes to IM's.

Either way, it's a very ignorant thing to do, which is why a number of states have banned it.

80% of accidents happen because of a distracted driver. Are you really going to claim that IM'ing and web surfing isn't a distraction?

http://www.nhtsa.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.416f74e8613992381601031046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID=detail_view&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=token&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=token&itemID=71052f9b8559a010VgnVCM1000002c567798RCRD&viewType=standard

I said it was a distraction.
But it doesn't impair a person's reaction time, anticipation time, and depth perception. Text messaging doesn't slow your motor skills.
ROFL

[Demonpenz]

I remember someone hit a bomb and a guy did a bat flip and ryan saw the replay and said
"Yeah you're cool"

Ryan has been going too far for years. I like it but I can see where he will get in trouble. I figured it would be the one umpire who doesn't call out balls and strikes well because I remember ryan saying something to the fact. He has a disability that doesn't allow him to raise his hand. This is all from memory.

[little jacob]

many people live their lives, like milton bradley does, with a victim mentality. someone is always doing them wrong, someone is always out to get them, woe is me, nothing is ever my fault, why's everybody always picking on me. 99% of the time those people's problems are of their own making but they lack the maturity or are just too lazy to deal with them.

walk around the world 'calling out' everyone who you think is dis'respet'n you. see where that gets you.

[Adept Havelock]

I said it was a distraction.
But it doesn't impair a person's reaction time, anticipation time, and depth perception. Text messaging doesn't slow your motor skills.
ROFL

I hope you're still laughing when someone you love is killed or crippled because some idiot thought sending an IM and web surfing the planet was more important than paying attention to what they were doing.

:shake:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/bmj;331/7514/428

[Consistent1]

many people live their lives, like milton bradley does, with a victim mentality. someone is always doing them wrong, someone is always out to get them, woe is me, nothing is ever my fault, why's everybody always picking on me. 99% of the time those people's problems are of their own making but they lack the maturity or are just too lazy to deal with them.

walk around the world 'calling out' everyone who you think is dis'respet'n you. see where that gets you.


He is doing fine in many ways, right?

[Pitt Gorilla]

So, Milt took it upon himself to prove Ryan correct with his actions?

[smittysbar]

Whatever. I'm driving and typing on my phone. I was watching the whole thing just typed the wrong name. My point is still the same.

ROFL Yeah cause split and frank white are so easy to hit the wrong button on the phone.

[Dartgod]

So, Milt took it upon himself to prove Ryan correct with his actions?
Pretty much, but since he is a successful baseball player, making millions of dollars a year, it's OK.

[Micjones]

Yeah, he's attacked fans, and beat his wife when she's pregnant. Big deal. :rolleyes:

The man threw a bottle into the front row...
After having it thrown at him.

The fan who pitched it at him? Was arrested.

Bradley's take on the incident:
"I deserved to be booed for reacting that way."
"You can't approach the stands."

Call me crazy... But that sounds like taking responsibility.

Your argument can't be this porous.

All we know about the incident with his wife is that the police were called three different times. We don't know what happened. If the man truly did beat his wife that's absolutely disgusting and despicable, but we don't know that.

[little jacob]

Pretty much, but since he is a successful baseball player, making millions of dollars a year, it's OK.

If he couldn't play baseball he'd probably be in prison with problems controlling his temper like he has

[little jacob]

tomko designated for assignment

carlos rosa called up from AA springdale

[Micjones]

many people live their lives, like milton bradley does, with a victim mentality. someone is always doing them wrong, someone is always out to get them, woe is me, nothing is ever my fault, why's everybody always picking on me. 99% of the time those people's problems are of their own making but they lack the maturity or are just too lazy to deal with them.

Bradley has apologized for outbursts in the past. That's an absolute fact.
Why is this still being debated?

walk around the world 'calling out' everyone who you think is dis'respet'n you. see where that gets you.

I'm certain that you take kindly to disrespect.
:rolleyes:

I can't say that I know what Bradley's intent was last night.
I wish some of you would stop pretending that you know...

[Adept Havelock]

The man threw a bottle into the front row...
After having it thrown at him.

The fan who pitched it at him? Was arrested.

Bradley's take on the incident:
"I deserved to be booed for reacting that way."
"You can't approach the stands."

Call me crazy... But that sounds like taking responsibility.

Your argument can't be this porous.

All we know about the incident with his wife is that the police were called on three different times. We don't know what happened. If the man truly did beat his wife that's absolutely disgusting and despicable, but we don't know that.

What argument? The guy is a douchebag with a short fuse on his temper. He's proved it multiple times. No argument is required. :shrug:

However, as for this ignorant nonsense of yours:

I said it was a distraction.
But it doesn't impair a person's reaction time, anticipation time, and depth perception. Text messaging doesn't slow your motor skills.
ROFL

Here's a nice little write up on a study that shows otherwise:

http://www.duiblog.com/2006/11/15/alcohol-vs-cell-phone-which-is-more-dangerous/

Here's a link to the PDF of the study itself, if you want to whine about the methodology:

http://www.psych.utah.edu/AppliedCognitionLab/DrivingAssessment2003.pdf

Results? Drivers conversing on a cell phone were involved in more rear-end collisions, and their reactions were 8% slower relative to normal baseline; it also took them 15% longer to return to normal speed. By contrast, drivers who were at or above .08% blood-alcohol levels showed no higher accident rates than normal, nor did they exhibit significant variation from normal baselines for reaction times or return to normal speeds.


And from the conclusion:

Taken together, we found that both intoxicated drivers and cell-phone drivers performed differently from baseline, and that the driving profiles of these two conditions differed. Drivers in the cell-phone condition exhibited a sluggish behavior (i.e., slower reactions) which they attempted to compensate for by increasing their following distance. Drivers in the alcohol condition exhibited a
more aggressive driving style, in which they followed closer, necessitating braking with greater force. With respect to traffic safety, our data are consistent with Redelmeier and Tibshirani’s (1997) earlier estimates. In fact, when controlling for driving difficulty and time on task, cell-phone drivers may actually exhibit greater impairments (i.e., more accidents and less responsive driving behavior) than legally intoxicated drivers. These data also call into question driving regulations that prohibit hand-held cell-phones and permit hands-free cell-phones, because no significant differences were found in the impairments to driving caused by these two modes of cellular communication.


I can back up my claim about DUI-Cell Phone use. How about you? :rolleyes:

edit- smittysbar, you make a great point in the following post.

Not that it matters much. All I said in my original point was one was as "dumb" as the other. I didn't bring up accident rates or that one was as "bad" as the other.


I'm certain that you take kindly to disrespect.
:rolleyes:
No, but I don't act like a grade schooler over it. I'm a man, and can ignore such ignorance on the part of others.


I can't say that I know what Bradley's intent was last night.
I wish some of you would stop pretending that you know...
The difference is you're willing to ignore his past to give him the benefit of the doubt. Most of us believe past behavior tends to be an indicator of current and future behavior.

[smittysbar]

I said it was a distraction.
But it doesn't impair a person's reaction time, anticipation time, and depth perception. Text messaging doesn't slow your motor skills.
ROFL

at least a drunk is looking at the ****ing road you dumb ****

[gblowfish]

Good thing he didn't make it to the booth. Ryan would kick his ass. He played college baseball, and he's no puss.

Milton is current day version of Jimmy Piersall.

Look it up.

[Dartgod]

Bradley has apologized for outbursts in the past. That's an absolute fact.
Why is this still being debated?
I used to have an anger problem. And I apologized after every time I blew up. And then proceeded to do it again.

Until I decided I needed to do something about it and take anger management classes. Perhaps MB should do the same instead of going after a radio announcer because he said some bad words about him. Boo-freaking-hoo.

[eazyb81]

tomko designated for assignment

carlos rosa called up from AA springdale

Did this really happen or are you just taking a guess? I'm on a Royals strike for a week or so after the loss on Tuesday night, so I'm out of the loop.

If true, seems to be a drastic move by Moore. Rosa has just had a few starts in Triple A, I think it's too early to promote him. Whatever, this franchise is trash.

[SCTrojan]

Did this really happen or are you just taking a guess? I'm on a Royals strike for a week or so after the loss on Tuesday night, so I'm out of the loop.

If true, seems to be a drastic move by Moore. Rosa has just had a few starts in Triple A, I think it's too early to promote him. Whatever, this franchise is trash.

They've been talking it up on 810.

[Micjones]

What argument? The guy is a douchebag with a short fuse on his temper. He's proved it multiple times. No argument is required. :shrug:

However, as for this ignorant nonsense of yours:



Here's a nice little write up on a study that shows otherwise:

http://www.duiblog.com/2006/11/15/alcohol-vs-cell-phone-which-is-more-dangerous/

Here's a link to the PDF of the study itself, if you want to whine about the methodology:

http://www.psych.utah.edu/AppliedCognitionLab/DrivingAssessment2003.pdf

Results? Drivers conversing on a cell phone were involved in more rear-end collisions, and their reactions were 8% slower relative to normal baseline; it also took them 15% longer to return to normal speed. By contrast, drivers who were at or above .08% blood-alcohol levels showed no higher accident rates than normal, nor did they exhibit significant variation from normal baselines for reaction times or return to normal speeds.


And from the conclusion:

Taken together, we found that both intoxicated drivers and cell-phone drivers performed differently from baseline, and that the driving profiles of these two conditions differed. Drivers in the cell-phone condition exhibited a sluggish behavior (i.e., slower reactions) which they attempted to compensate for by increasing their following distance. Drivers in the alcohol condition exhibited a
more aggressive driving style, in which they followed closer, necessitating braking with greater force. With respect to traffic safety, our data are consistent with Redelmeier and Tibshirani’s (1997) earlier estimates. In fact, when controlling for driving difficulty and time on task, cell-phone drivers may actually exhibit greater impairments (i.e., more accidents and less responsive driving behavior) than legally intoxicated drivers. These data also call into question driving regulations that prohibit hand-held cell-phones and permit hands-free cell-phones, because no significant differences were found in the impairments to driving caused by these two modes of cellular communication.


I can back up my claim about DUI-Cell Phone use. How about you? :rolleyes:

edit- smittysbar, you make a great point in the following post.

Not that it matters much. All I said in my original point was one was as "dumb" as the other. I didn't bring up accident rates or that one was as "bad" as the other.


No, but I don't act like a grade schooler over it. I'm a man, and can ignore such ignorance on the part of others.


The difference is you're willing to ignore his past to give him the benefit of the doubt. Most of us believe past behavior tends to be an indicator of current and future behavior.

Those studies conducted an experiment based on an 0.08 blood alcohol level.
The average blood alcohol-level for accidents involving fatalities is TWICE as high.

[Micjones]

I used to have an anger problem. And I apologized after every time I blew up. And then proceeded to do it again.

Bradley hasn't had an incident since last year's brush with Winters (that I know of). Am I missing something?

[Dartgod]

Bradley hasn't had an incident since last year's brush with Winters (that I know of). Am I missing something?
If not, good for him. His reaction in this case indicates he still has some issues, IMO.

[Micjones]

If not, good for him. His reaction in this case indicates he still has some issues, IMO.

That's fair. I'm just not sure that I know what his intentions were.
He may have just wanted to have a word with Lefebrve.

[smittysbar]

Bradley hasn't had an incident since last year's brush with Winters (that I know of). Am I missing something?

To funny........he just had one, that is what the thread is about.

I would say that is within the last year

[little jacob]

That's fair. I'm just not sure that I know what his intentions were.
He may have just wanted to have a word with Lefebrve.

i'm not either. i'm also not sure what his intentions with winters were or with eric wedge or his pregnant girlfriend when he assaulted them

[Micjones]

To funny........he just had one, that is what the thread is about.

I would say that is within the last year

That wasn't an incident. Nothing happened.

[Micjones]

i'm also not sure what his intentions with winters

Don't let the facts get in the way.
Winters was suspended by the league for his role in the incident with Bradley.

eric wedge

The term "shouting match" was too generous a term to describe his brush with Wedge. That was a verbal confrontation at best.

or his pregnant girlfriend when he assaulted them

I missed those assault charges.
Care to post that link?

[little jacob]

yeah. bradley was never going to do anything to winters. he was never going to do anything to wedge or his girl. he just wanted to have a friendly chat with them.

what are you, his agent?

[Dartgod]

That wasn't an incident. Nothing happened.
Yeah, I used to rationalize things like that too. Nothing bad happened, so no big deal.

The key to dealing with anger issues is to realize that ONLY YOU can cause yourself to get angry. Once you admit that, then you can control situations like this.

Granted there are rare situations that warrant a violent reaction (life threatening), but going to confront someone who said something bad about you on TV is not being under control.

[smittysbar]

That wasn't an incident. Nothing happened.

BS

Come on man. Use your head. He was mad, had to get escorted back to the locker room. Broke down in front of EVERYONE. Yeah nothing happened.

You must not get out much :)

[Micjones]

yeah. bradley was never going to do anything to winters. he was never going to do anything to wedge or his girl. he just wanted to have a friendly chat with them.

I don't know what his intentions were concerning Winters.
I do know that league officials deemed Winters the provocateur.
I also know that he, alone, was disciplined for that incident.

What I don't know is why we aren't talking about anger management for Winters. Perhaps you could help me understand?

The situation with Wedge was NEVER physical.
It was a verbal confrontation. That's how it was reported. In fact, it was reported that the two never even raised their voices.

[Micjones]

Come on man. Use your head. He was mad, had to get escorted back to the locker room.

I've been plenty upset in the past. Upset to the point that I wanted to have a word with someone who made disparaging remarks about me. I had no intentions of assaulting anyone.

You're pretending you know what he had in mind.
You don't really. You're using his past to indict him and convict him now when there are so many unknowns concerning last night's events.

You must have a son who once walked on water.

[MVChiefFan]

I've "had words" with people that have said things about me and I don't consider myself having a bad temper. I think, no matter how you feel about Bradley, Ryan shouldn't have even brought him up in that manner. He should have known it wouldn't sit well with him. He's a play by play announcer, not a blogger. He should keep his opinion on personal matters to himself.

[Micjones]

Again, Bradley's got problems controlling his temper. That's very well publicized.
I won't bother to argue the point.

All I'm saying is... Lefebvre was out of line.
And I can understand Bradley, or anyone else for that matter, wanting to have a word with him.

[Micjones]

I've "had words" with people that have said things about me and I don't consider myself having a bad temper. I think, no matter how you feel about Bradley, Ryan shouldn't have even brought him up in that manner. He should have known it wouldn't sit well with him. He's a play by play announcer, not a blogger. He should keep his opinion on personal matters to himself.

THANK YOU.

Why sportscasters and commentators are given license to sit on soapboxes on every professional athlete is beyond me. The court of public opinion is a crowded place. Everyone wants to talk about the speck in someone else's eye.

[smittysbar]

You must have a son who once walked on water.

You finally get it :D

[MVChiefFan]

THANK YOU.

Why sportscasters and commentators are given license to sit on soapboxes on every professional athlete is beyond me. The court of public opinion is a crowded place. Everyone wants to talk about the speck in someone else's eye.

Exactly. I was actually watching the game on tv and very specifically remember hearing this and thinking "what the hell"? I actually laughed out loud a little because to me it was rediculous and pointed to even bring Bradley up. My first thought was "wow, he either don't like this guy or he's pissed him off somehow".

[smittysbar]

Life in the spot light. He gets paid huge amounts of money, people talk, it's part of it. From actors to athletes, it comes with the teritory. If it's to much for him he could give the money back and get a real job and live life under the radar.

MB is a bitch and he just keeps proving it

[Micjones]

Life in the spot light. He gets paid huge amounts of money, people talk, it's part of it.

That is the reality of life in the line of business he's in, but that hardly makes it right for people to knitpick and pass judgment on athletes and celebrities ad nauseum. Over the last 5 years it's gotten out of hand.

I'm not an apologist for Britney Spears either, but the media has really done a number on her.

[Consistent1]

Good thing he didn't make it to the booth. Ryan would kick his ass. He played college baseball, and he's no puss.

Milton is current day version of Jimmy Piersall.

Look it up.

Right, wanna take bets bro? BTW it's all in fun.

[Consistent1]

That is the reality of life in the line of business he's in, but that hardly makes it right for people to knitpick and pass judgment on athletes and celebrities ad nauseum. Over the last 5 years it's gotten out of hand.

I'm not an apologist for Britney Spears either, but the media has really done a number on her.

You're my boy Blue. Would you guys still stick it Ms. Brit's heiny....? I hate that bitch but my wife gives up the anal like twice a year.

[MVChiefFan]

It's not just life in the spot light, it's life everywhere. Just usually on a much smaller scale. There's not a person I know with any nuts that wouldn't confront someone who they felt did them wrong. There's just different levels of aggression when doing it. And, as Micjones stated, we have NO idea what his intentions were.

[smittysbar]

That is the reality of life in the line of business he's in, but that hardly makes it right for people to knitpick and pass judgment on athletes and celebrities ad nauseum. Over the last 5 years it's gotten out of hand.

I'm not an apologist for Britney Spears either, but the media has really done a number on her.

She does it to herself. She puts herself in these positions OVER and OVER.

[Consistent1]

It's not just life in the spot light, it's life everywhere. Just usually on a much smaller scale. There's not a person I know with any nuts that wouldn't confront someone who they felt did them wrong. There's just different levels of aggression when doing it. And, as Micjones stated, we have NO idea what his intentions were.

The whole of this thread was should Bradley get a face to face with a mouthpiece? I say yes.

[smittysbar]

It's not just life in the spot light, it's life everywhere. Just usually on a much smaller scale. There's not a person I know with any nuts that wouldn't confront someone who they felt did them wrong. There's just different levels of aggression when doing it. And, as Micjones stated, we have NO idea what his intentions were.

Having to be escorted back should clue you in

[Micjones]

She does it to herself. She puts herself in these positions OVER and OVER.

She absolutely has to own her role in what she's become, but the media pores over everything she does. It's insane. You have to wonder on some level if that kind of attention and scrutiny adds to an individual's sense of entitlement and the attitude that they're "above the law".

[Micjones]

Having to be escorted back should clue you in

That doesn't mean that he would absolutely have assaulted Lefebvre.
That was preemptive. That's the wise thing to do when someone's upset.
Remove them so the situation doesn't escalate.

[Micjones]

at least a drunk is looking at the ****ing road you dumb ****

That matters when their depth perception is off doesn't it?
I guess if you can't win the argument you just start calling people names?
BRILLIANT!

[Consistent1]

Having to be escorted back should clue you in


He was "escorted" back because in the right situation he would pounded Le fag.

[Simply Red]

No surprise. M.B. has been a head-case for yrs.

[smittysbar]

That doesn't mean that he would absolutely have assaulted Lefebvre.
That was preemptive. That's the wise thing to do when someone's upset.
Remove them so the situation doesn't escalate.

I am not saying that he would have or would not have hit him. What I am saying is he flew off the handle once again. He was escorted back because he lost his temper. He was over the top or he would not have broke down in the locker room after returning.

That matters when their depth perception is off doesn't it?
I guess if you can't win the argument you just start calling people names?
BRILLIANT!

Sorry, but I'll take someone with an impaired depth perception over some jackass not even looking at the road.

I am not trying to win an argument hell didn't know we were arguing. You should seek anger management classes with MB :D

She absolutely has to own her role in what she's become, but the media pores over everything she does. It's insane. You have to wonder on some level if that kind of attention and scrutiny adds to an individual's sense of entitlement and the attitude that they're "above the law".

I agree 100%

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I think this all stems from his mother naming him Milton.

ROFL