I wanna check out

[bogey]

Do you ever get the urge to just simply check out. Right now, I have that urge. I'm so ****ing tired. Am I the only one that feels this way?

[Mr. Plow]

I'm always tired.

[bogey]

My industry is so full of BS.

[kepp]

Absolutely. Sometimes I wish I could get some land somewhere in Montana or Wyoming and take my family off the grid.

[Gonzo]

jump jump jump jump!!!!!

You first!!!!!!!!!

[Sully]

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...by the way, this is from a great movie.

[bogey]

We're producing a show about a guy that teaches men how to pick up women. I was just in on a conference call with the creative people. This is so not me. I don't ****ing care, but everyone on the call is taking it so seriously. I have got to get out, but I can't unless I simply just check out.

[wutamess]

Even though it's the offseason...

http://i31.tinypic.com/i3h06s.gif

[bogey]

Everyone around me is working hard at their job. I'm posting on Chiefsplanet because I just don't care about this industry anymore.

[bogey]

I really, really want to check out. I want to build a house on my parents farm and just sit, stare, smoke and drink. I'm done.

[StcChief]

Mentally I'm ready, must be allergy medicine.

[Deberg_1990]

We're producing a show about a guy that teaches men how to pick up women.

Sounds like the next hit show on FOX!

[bogey]

Mentally I'm ready, must be allergy medicine.

I am surrounded by a bunch of effected SoCal TV people that take their work very seriously. Good for them, but it's just not me. I've tolerated these people for 15 years and I'm at the end of my rope. I need something in my life that brings ME happiness. My wife's happy, my daughter's happy, my friends are happy, my co-workers are happy. Honestly, I'm not happy.

[bogey]

Sounds like the next hit show on FOX!

Oh, it will probably be a hit. I just don't care. I want to go turkey hunting.

[38yrsfan]

Sounds like you need something to put life back in perspective ... maybe trying a little volunteer work, etc. would help ... many have found new interest in life and new "careers" ....

[kepp]

... my friends are happy, my co-workers are happy ...

I'd bet all my casino bucks that many of them are not really as happy as they seem. I've lived in SoCal and it can suck the life out of you.

Do you have the means to accomplish the check out? If so, give it a try. I've thought about checking out of my industry and taking up more of a blue collar job. I think I'd like landscaping.

[Brock]

I'd bet all my casino bucks that many of them are not really as happy as they seem. I've lived in SoCal and it can suck the life out of you.

Do you have the means to accomplish the check out? If so, give it a try. I've thought about checking out of my industry and taking up more of a blue collar job. I think I'd like landscaping.

How many pesos a day do you expect to be paid?

[FAX]

I am surrounded by a bunch of effected SoCal TV people that take their work very seriously. Good for them, but it's just not me. I've tolerated these people for 15 years and I'm at the end of my rope. I need something in my life that brings ME happiness. My wife's happy, my daughter's happy, my friends are happy, my co-workers are happy. Honestly, I'm not happy.

If that's the case, I recommend that you take immediate action, Mr. bogey.

Were I you, I would consider taking up meditation. It requires discipline and it's difficult at first, but once you achieve positive contact with your Chakras, life will unfold before you like a rare and beautiful flower. Unless you're allergic to rare flowers, in which case, life will cause you to sneeze and choke on endless rivers of disgusting nasal drainage that makes you gag and almost vomit while your eyes burn like twin midgets are poking them with sand-covered, red hot knives.

Hope this helps.

FAX

[kepp]

How many pesos a day do you expect to be paid?

Not many...that's why I wish I had the financial means to do it.

[tyton75]

Shit, all you need to do now is watch "Into the Wild" and you'll be going off to Alaska

[milkman]

I think you should go to work for McDonald's.

I mean, who wouldn't be happy pushing happy meals?

[Hydrae]

I think you should go to work for McDonald's.

I mean, who wouldn't be happy pushing happy meals?

Can he speak Spanish? If not then fast food might not be the way to go.

[Demonpenz]

Life is too short to hate your job.

[bogey]

Sounds like you need something to put life back in perspective ... maybe trying a little volunteer work, etc. would help ... many have found new interest in life and new "careers" ....

The problem is, I'm STUCK. The cost of my living and my kids school system requires I stay in this God forsaken job for at least another year. Then we get to move to some other overpriced area in SoCal.

[bogey]

I'd bet all my casino bucks that many of them are not really as happy as they seem. I've lived in SoCal and it can suck the life out of you.

Do you have the means to accomplish the check out? If so, give it a try. I've thought about checking out of my industry and taking up more of a blue collar job. I think I'd like landscaping.

I see these people working in regular jobs and I wonder what it must be like to work in a stress free environment. I'm sure I'm simplifying their jobs. The problem is, I don't enjoy my job.

[bogey]

If that's the case, I recommend that you take immediate action, Mr. bogey.

Were I you, I would consider taking up meditation. It requires discipline and it's difficult at first, but once you achieve positive contact with your Chakras, life will unfold before you like a rare and beautiful flower. Unless you're allergic to rare flowers, in which case, life will cause you to sneeze and choke on endless rivers of disgusting nasal drainage that makes you gag and almost vomit while your eyes burn like twin midgets are poking them with sand-covered, red hot knives.

Hope this helps.

FAX

I think I need to take up medication. I'm an unhappy feller.

[bogey]

Shit, all you need to do now is watch "Into the Wild" and you'll be going off to Alaska

That may be exactly what I need. I want to check out. Get away from responsibility.

[bogey]

Life is too short to hate your job.

Tell me about it.

[gblowfish]

Check please.

[bogey]

Check please.

Wouldn't you like to see my dessert menu?

[rad]

I hate my job too, I think most do.......Why do you "have" to stay for a year?

[bogey]

I hate my job too, I think most do.......Why do you "have" to stay for a year?

Do most people hate their jobs? Sometimes I think I'm the only one that hates my job. My kid is finishing 4th grade in a great school system. She has 1 more year in this school. I don't want to uproot her.

[rad]

Do most people hate their jobs? Sometimes I think I'm the only one that hates my job. My kid is finishing 4th grade in a great school system. She has 1 more year in this school. I don't want to uproot her.

Yes, I think so. It's difficult to find a job you love, or you find that a job you love isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[Friendo]

'57 was a good year :D

you should've already had the mid-life by now, but if not it can be a real mofo...for real! Mr FAX gives some good advice. Talk it over with someone who can relate, be it the wife or a good friend. Don't take your family thru some acting out bs, but it does sound like you need a change. Hang in there! :thumb:

[RJ]

I "checked out" once. It only lasted for a couple of years. I moved to a smaller town, got a job tending bar, chased women, drank too much, slept late. Eventually I got tired of that as well and checked back in.

[ChiefsFanatic]

There are many times, especially recently, that I regret my stance on handguns. Sometimes I think a bullet in the brain would just be such an instant fix to my problems.

[bogey]

'57 was a good year :D

you should've already had the mid-life by now, but if not it can be a real mofo...for real! Mr FAX gives some good advice. Talk it over with someone who can relate, be it the wife or a good friend. Don't take your family thru some acting out bs, but it does sound like you need a change. Hang in there! :thumb:

I don't think I had a mid-life crisis. Maybe that's what's going on. It does suck though! :shake:

[bogey]

There are many times, especially recently, that I regret my stance on handguns. Sometimes I think a bullet in the brain would just be such an instant fix to my problems.

I don't have an urge to take it that far yet. I just want to get the hell away from everyone like RJ did.

[teedubya]

This thread is inspiring!

[teedubya]

We are put here on Earth to experience life... not earn a living.

[bogey]

We are put here on Earth to experience life... not earn a living.

Easier said than done.

[Friendo]

We are put here on Earth to experience life... not earn a living.

very sage advice--I would add experience relationships and emotion. some sure signs of a full-blown MLC:

having trouble sleeping because you're laying awake, rolling any number (or making some up) of regrets about what you coulda/shouda/woulda done with your life.

low-grade depression--losing interest in everyday things that used to give you pleasure.

snappy with family and friends--displaced anger/aggression/self-loathing

going in decision circles


have I missed anything? pretty fun bag o sh** ain't it? if you have kids, nothing else matters--you've been granted the opportunity to nurture the most incredible spiritual relationship on earth--don't blow it with non-productive self-absorption ;)

find an older mentor who's been through the same.

[Donger]

Do you ever get the urge to just simply check out.

No.

[bogey]

No.

You're lucky.

[Rausch]

No.

Ditto.

I'll be dead until the end of time. I'll be alive, at best (and likely only after organ transplants) to 70. That's like hanging up because someone put you on hold for 10 seconds...

[Bearcat]

Do most people hate their jobs? Sometimes I think I'm the only one that hates my job. My kid is finishing 4th grade in a great school system. She has 1 more year in this school. I don't want to uproot her.

I don't think so... it is hard to find a job you love, but I don't think it's all that hard to find a job you can at least tolerate. I took my first job out of college because I couldn't find a decent one, and after the new job smell wore off, I despised it. I remember waking up every morning and the first thought that crossed my mind was how much I hated getting up to go to work, followed by something like "Holy sh*t, it's only [day]".

My second job out of college wasn't what I wanted to find myself doing 10 years down the road, but I didn't mind going to work or dealing with coworkers, which makes a HUGE difference. I was there a couple of years, and left for a job that I really do love.

I would think the majority of people fall into the gray area where they tolerate their job and find happiness in family or friends or whatever. Like someone else said, life is too short to hate your job.

[angelo]

I have a career I love but the stress is killer. The hours are long and and the working conditions are sometimes not great.

I constantly think about vanishing. So much that I have a bag packed in the trunk of my car and enough seed cash to last me a year. It is hard at night after a 16 hour day not to drive past my off ramp and just keep going until I can't drive anymore.

The reason I don't is because I am stubborn and I won't let anything beat me.
I would have never made it this far in my life by quitting and I am not going to start now.

My advice Mr. Bogey is see a Doctor it could be depression, low testosterone,
sleep apnea sp?, or any number of health related issues. It could also be good old fashioned burn out. I go through this once a year.

I would find something to give you joy and make it a habit. ( I took up swimming)

Ang

[FAX]

I think I need to take up medication. I'm an unhappy feller.

In all seriousness, Mr. bogey ... take some time out for yourself - a couple of days at least - grab a journal and a pen and write down your dreams - the things that you know in your heart would provide a sense of fulfillment for you. They might be either vocational or avocational. Whatever they are, if you are honest with yourself and these are your true goals, pursue them with all your heart and soul remembering that 90 percent of life is the journey. You say that your family is happy, but take it from me ... once you are on the road toward your true goals, your family will be even happier.

FAX

[beach tribe]

When it comes down to it, Everybody's got it rough, but when the lights go out, they don't come back on.

Don't let the BS make you forget about how beautiful, and amazing the world really is to live in.

Don't forget the things that are really important. We get that confused sometimes.

[beach tribe]

In all seriousness, Mr. bogey ... take some time out for yourself - a couple of days at least - grab a journal and a pen and write down your dreams - the things that you know in your heart would provide a sense of fulfillment for you. They might be either vocational or avocational. Whatever they are, if you are honest with yourself and these are your true goals, pursue them with all your heart and soul remembering that 90 percent of life is the journey. You say that your family is happy, but take it from me ... once you are on the road toward your true goals, your family will be even happier.

FAX

Good advice sir.

[bogey]

My true goal is to feel happiness when it's hitting me in the face. I'm surrounded by things that should make me feel happy. I think my problem is deeper than I want to admit. I have a hard time being happy. I have so much going for me. I will suck it up, I have for years. Thanks for letting me rant.

[Donger]

You're lucky.

It's not luck.

[bogey]

It's not luck.

No, it's not. Congratulations.

[Donger]

No, it's not. Congratulations.

I'm not one to be philosophical, but I am grateful every day when I wake up. Some days are better than others. Some are worse.

But, even my worst day is better than being dead. Better than my wife not having a husband. Better than my kids not having a father.

I've never viewed life differently than that. When I was younger, I had different reasons for always looking forward, but the drive was always there.

[FAX]

My true goal is to feel happiness when it's hitting me in the face. I'm surrounded by things that should make me feel happy. I think my problem is deeper than I want to admit. I have a hard time being happy. I have so much going for me. I will suck it up, I have for years. Thanks for letting me rant.

What you're feeling is not uncommon at all, Mr. bogey. There's even an axiom dealing with the subject ... something about grass being greener on the other side of the nudist park property line.

Sure, you can "suck it up" and be miserable in your soul. Or, you can "suck it up" and find happiness and fulfillment. It's a choice. Maybe you're one of the lucky people who still has inner dreams to follow - dreams that are pulling you in a different course than the one you're currently on - and the conflict you're feeling is the denial of your true self.

FAX

[Buehler445]

I don't particularly like my job. I like the company. Don't mind the work. Really like a few of my co-workers. But the pay is ass and there is one bitch there that drives me up the wall. No one can understand how the worthless waste of ass is still employed.

That shit wears on me. I go every damn day and do the best work I can. But it is really hard to do when this bitch is as worthless as tits on a boar.

I want out of the situation. If they were to fire her and give me her job, that would take care of most of it (yes the cuntstain gets paid more than me), but I can't say that I'm experiencing the same kind of burnout as you. I've been burnt out before, but not to the extent as you.

Whenever I need a boost, I just spend some time to myself. Sometimes that is enough for a recharge. I might also suggest sending the kids to grandmas or a babysitter and spend some time with your wife. Go out have fun. Do some stuff. Rest your soul a bit.

The other thing is that I'm 25 and desperately trying to get ahead. Maybe you can set a goal for yourself (new job, promotion, buy an RV, sock away enough cash for a mancave) to get yourself refocused professionally.

Best of luck bogey. It's tough.

[bogey]

I'm not one to be philosophical, but I am grateful every day when I wake up. Some days are better than others. Some are worse.

But, even my worst day is better than being dead. Better than my wife not having a husband. Better than my kids not having a father.

I've never viewed life differently than that. When I was younger, I had different reasons for always looking forward, but the drive was always there.

I used to be like that. I've lost my drive. I'm not one that shares my innermost feelings with anyone. It's easy on here, because I'll likely never actually meet any of you folks. Right now, I'm a 50 year old man who's depressed.

[Donger]

I used to be like that. I've lost my drive. I'm not one that shares my innermost feelings with anyone. It's easy on here, because I'll likely never actually meet any of you folks. Right now, I'm a 50 year old man who's depressed.

I think you should:

1) Masturbate more.
2) Buy a Corvette.
3) Buy a monkey.

Not necessarily in that order, mind you.

[bogey]

I think you should:

1) Masturbate more.
2) Buy a Corvette.
3) Buy a monkey.

Not necessarily in that order, mind you.

:)
I get plenty of sex.
I don't really like fast cars.
The monkey idea may just be the solution.

[Easy 6]

off the grid.

I just watched a great documentary with that title a few days ago, if you havent seen it, its worth a look.

[bogey]

What you're feeling is not uncommon at all, Mr. bogey. There's even an axiom dealing with the subject ... something about grass being greener on the other side of the nudist park property line.

Sure, you can "suck it up" and be miserable in your soul. Or, you can "suck it up" and find happiness and fulfillment. It's a choice. Maybe you're one of the lucky people who still has inner dreams to follow - dreams that are pulling you in a different course than the one you're currently on - and the conflict you're feeling is the denial of your true self.

FAX

I most certainly have inner dreams. However, right now, there's no way I can follow them without making 2 other people that mean the world to me very unhappy.

[Friendo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ajuqpAY_o

good times/noodle salad

[blueballs]

move somewhere where everything isn't fake or faked

[bogey]

move somewhere where everything isn't fake or faked

There's a lot to this statement. The business I'm in is so shallow.

[RJ]

I most certainly have inner dreams. However, right now, there's no way I can follow them without making 2 other people that mean the world to me very unhappy.


If you let yourself snap there is a price to be paid. The question that you have to ask is which price is greater. Most likely the answer is somewhere in the middle. You need to find a way to hold up your responsibilities and take care of those you love while still giving yourself some inner peace. I can just about guarantee you will suffer lifelong guilt if you pursue the dropping out path.

What you're feeling just flat out sucks. Sure wish I had a halfway decent answer for you.

[Phobia]

Dude - everybody here knows I'm not some religion freak but my family and I found a lot of contentment when we began attending church roughly 3 years back. Honestly, I'm a little perplexed it has taken this long for anybody to mention it. Prior to that we were chasing some elusive fictional place of happiness by spending tons of money, traveling, and buying fancy cars. Didn't work.

Consider shopping for a church where you're comfortable. What can it hurt?

[Buehler445]

Dude - everybody here knows I'm not some religion freak but my family and I found a lot of contentment when we began attending church roughly 3 years back. Honestly, I'm a little perplexed it has taken this long for anybody to mention it. Prior to that we were chasing some elusive fictional place of happiness by spending tons of money, traveling, and buying fancy cars. Didn't work.

Consider shopping for a church where you're comfortable. What can it hurt?

That's a good call. There is lots of good insight in this thread.

[DaneMcCloud]

move somewhere where everything isn't fake or faked

So you think 40 million people are "faking it"?

JFC.

The perception of California on this forum is downright absurd.

[Mr. Kotter]

So you think 40 million people are "faking it"?

JFC.

The perception of California on this forum is downright absurd.

Dane...glad you are "happy."

Seriously though, the rest of the country....won't give too much thought to the "loss" we, as a nation experience if the big one and it drops CA into the Pacific....UNLESS we have family and friends living there.

I'm just keepin' it real.... :shrug:

If you are wondering "why"....check the nation's response to the Midwest floods, which are beginning to pale Katrina by comparison....

Yes; I'm dead serious.

[Mr. Kotter]

As for you, bogey; FAX and Phobia have offered you some valuable insight....as well as a couple of others.

[DaneMcCloud]

There's a lot to this statement. The business I'm in is so shallow.

Oh, Boo-****ing-hoo. Everyone is so shallow.

Give me a ****ing break.

Dude, you have a job in an industry that people the world over clamor to be in. There are hundreds of thousands of people who come to Los Angeles ever year that would KILL to have a job like yours - people who will work for nothing, just to get an opportunity to showcase their talent. People who want to be involved in the creation of films and television - people with a passion for this industry.

If you worked MY production company and had this attitude, I replace you as quickly as possible with someone who WANTED to work.

If you're not into it, get out. Don't blame "the shallowness" of the industry or anyone else but yourself.

****ing cry me a river. :rolleyes:

[DaneMcCloud]

Dane...glad you are "happy."

Seriously though, the rest of the country....won't give too much thought to the "loss" we, as a nation experience if the big one and it drops CA into the Pacific....UNLESS we have family and friends living there.

I'm just keepin' it real.... :shrug:

If you are wondering "why"....check the nation's response to the Midwest floods, which are beginning to pale Katrina by comparison....

Yes; I'm dead serious.

Well Kotter, you're just a stupid dumb****.

If Cali dropped into the ocean, this country quickly drop to nearly a third-world country. The economy is the 5th largest in the world. The global effects would be massive, not to mention the effect on the USA.

I really didn't know you were such a dumb mother****er. I always thought you were biased asshole, but thanks for the heads up.

[Fat Elvis]

If you hate your current job and are looking to "check out" might I suggest that you explore the exciting opportunities that await you in a career as a librarian?

[Mr. Kotter]

Well Kotter, you're just a stupid dumb****.

If Cali dropped into the ocean, this country quickly drop to nearly a third-world country. The economy is the 5th largest in the world. The global effects would be massive, not to mention the effect on the USA.

I really didn't know you were such a dumb mother****er. I always thought you were biased asshole, but thanks for the heads up.

Actually, it's 11th "largest"....global effects would be significant; but in many ways, many of us would consider ourselves "better off."

CA is the epitome of the lunatic fringe, sofaras the rest of the country is concerned.

It would be a short-term 'tragedy;' with long-term "improved" prospects.

Just speaking for lots of Midwest folks that say, if 911 happens again..."can we request Hollywood?"

;)

:hmmm:

[stlchiefs]

Dane's here, he brought the puppies and lollipops again for everyone! :)

[DaneMcCloud]

Dane's here, he brought the puppies and lollipops again for everyone! :)

Sorry, Man but I have a really hard time hearing someone whine when that person has a family, a home and a great job.

He's not a coal miner, he's a video editor.

[Mr. Kotter]

Sorry, Man but I have a really hard time hearing someone whine when that person has a family, a home and a great job.

He's not a coal miner, he's a video editor.

Nah, that's not it; embrace your freakishness....admit you are purely and simply a pompous asshole. It's okay; liberate yourself. I mean, the whole "Hollywood Douchebag" is spot-on and all, but it falls short of the grandeur of your arrogance.

[DaneMcCloud]

Nah, that's not it; embrace your freakishness....admit you are purely and simply a pompous asshole. It's okay; liberate yourself. I mean, the whole "Hollywood Douchebag" is spot-on and all, but it falls short of the grandeur of your arrogance.

I sure wish I was a ****head that lived in ND. Life would be so awesome on my 40k a year salary with 5 kids!

At least I'm not dumb enough have five kids on a immigrant worker's salary.

Must be fun.

Oh, and after all these year, I'd just like to say that I think you're an arrogant, racist, dickhead and it's too bad the doctors caught your sleep apnea.

It would have saved us all from your continual bullshit.

[Mr. Kotter]

I sure wish I was a ****head that lived in ND. Life would be so awesome on my 40k a year salary with 5 kids!

At least I'm not dumb enough have five kids on a immigrant worker's salary.

Must be fun.

Oh, and after all these year, I'd just like to say that I think you're an arrogant, racist, dickhead and it's too bad the doctors caught your sleep apnea.

It would have saved us all from your continual bullshit.

Aside from the 3 or 4 factual errors from your shallow and lame "recollection"....you've once again demonstrated why such ignorant arrogance has earned you a place as one of the Planet's most despised and reviled self-delusional dickheads.

Thanks for that! :thumb:

LMAO

[DaneMcCloud]

Aside from the 3 or 4 factual errors from your lame "recollection"....you've once again demonstrated why such ignorant arrogance has earned you a place as one of the Planet's most despised and reviled self-delusional dickheads.

Thanks for that! :thumb:

LMAO

But you are an arrogant, racist, homophobe. So I did get a few things right.

And as far as "most despised", I'm sure you'll be universally loved for your death wish to 40 million Americans.

You're so ****ing cool.

Have fun being the coolest guy in North Dakota!

Cockbreath.

Oh, and thanks for being irrelevant. It suits you.

[Mr. Kotter]

But you are an arrogant, racist, homophobe. So I did get a few things right.

And as far as "most despised", I'm sure you'll be universally loved for your death wish to 40 million Americans.

You're so ****ing cool.

Have fun being the coolest guy in North Dakota!

Cockbreath.

Oh, and thanks for being irrelevant. It suits you.

Arrogant? "Homophobe (by queer-bait CA standards?)? Maybe? Racist....eh, you must be thinking of someone else....

I'm not "wishing" the tragedy; I'm merely making an observation....similar to your past pathetic characterizations of Midwest folks....heh.

;) :hmmm:

Apparently geography isn't your strong-suit (not that you really seem to have one,) nor is your affinity for evaluating my "breath"....considering I'm a "homophobe," according to sausage-smoking sympathizing POS posters like you. Heh.

Nighty, night....Poindexter. Keep the KY warming gel close to the bed there, Biff.

LMAO

[DaneMcCloud]

Arrogant? "Homophobe (by queer-bait CA standards?)? Maybe? Racist....eh, you must be thinking of someone else....

I'm not "wishing" the tragedy; I'm merely making an observation....similar to your past pathetic characterizations of Midwest folks....heh.

;) :hmmm:

Apparently geography isn't your strong-suit (not that you really seem to have one,) nor is your affinity for evaluating my "breath"....considering I'm a "homophobe," according to sausage-smoking sympathizing POS posters like you. Heh.

Nighty, night....Poindexter. Keep the KY warming gel close to the bed there, Biff.

LMAO

Please find ONE post where I've either dismissed or insulted Midwesterners.

ONE.

God, you're such a dumb****.

So, I may not know where you live (I thought it was North Dakota) but to be honest, I really don't give a ****. You'd be an asshole in Georgia or an asshole in Oregon.

Bottom line: You're an asshole.

[Mr. Kotter]

...You'd be an asshole in Georgia or an asshole in Oregon.

Bottom line: You're an asshole.

Coming from you, I wear it as a badge of honor.

I'm dead serious. :)

Nighty night, Maurice. Sweet dreams of Anton to you, feller. :)

[DaneMcCloud]

Coming from you, I wear it as a badge of honor.

I'm dead serious. :)

Nighty night, Maurice. Sweet dreams of Anton to you, feller. :)

I hope your children are never allowed to see your posts.

I'm truly embarrassed for them.

[007]

This thread makes me want to check out. heh

[ChieflySpeaking]

This may be the biggest bitch fight I've ever seen.


Personally, I like both you guys.

Now pass the popcorn and commence to hair pullin' :)


('roo)

[KcMizzou]

(Sorry I'm late.)

Respect the thread at all times.

Dane, are you ready? Kotter, you ready?

Alright, touch gloves. Let's get it on.

[Logical]

I hope your life is better physically than mine (every nite on a dialysis machine 12 hours, feeling like shit maybe a 1/3 of the time. But I love my work and I love my kids and grandkids and I am not checking out.

Be strong.

[Logical]

Dane...glad you are "happy."

Seriously though, the rest of the country....won't give too much thought to the "loss" we, as a nation experience if the big one and it drops CA into the Pacific....UNLESS we have family and friends living there.

I'm just keepin' it real.... :shrug:

If you are wondering "why"....check the nation's response to the Midwest floods, which are beginning to pale Katrina by comparison....

Yes; I'm dead serious.Nice, I suppose if 9/11 had been a super Nuke and had taken out 20 million people you would not feel that loss either. This has to be your worst single post ever. Rob.:doh!:

[kregger]

Take a few days and play some golf. 36 holes a day, I'm talking. If that doesn't refocus your energies, then see a psychiatrist and explore your options.

[Rausch]

I hope your life is better physically than mine (every nite on a dialysis machine 12 hours, feeling like shit maybe a 1/3 of the time. But I love my work and I love my kids and grandkids and I am not checking out.

Be strong.

:evil:

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[Rausch]

I most certainly have inner dreams. However, right now, there's no way I can follow them without making 2 other people that mean the world to me very unhappy.

I doubt you're fooling anyone. I'm sure the wife can tell you're miserable. If she's got enough common sense to sniff out when you come home after a bad day at work I'm sure "absotively super **** you miserable" can be detected.

If you don't talk to your wife she may assume it's her. "We've got great kids, nice house, good job...is it me?" If your family really does "mean the world" to you give your wife the respect of talking with her about it.

For all you know she could be feeling the exact same way...

[Phobia]

I doubt you're fooling anyone. I'm sure the wife can tell you're miserable. If she's got enough common sense to sniff out when you come home after a bad day at work I'm sure "absotively super **** you miserable" can be detected.

If you don't talk to your wife she may assume it's her. "We've got great kids, nice house, good job...is it me?" If your family really does "mean the world" to you give your wife the respect of talking with her about it.

For all you know she could be feeling the exact same way...

Will you please sling that very advice my way periodically?

[blueballs]

So you think 40 million people are "faking it"?

JFC.

The perception of California on this forum is downright absurd.

your views are so mainstream/down home -how can I even begin to disagree

[Demonpenz]

cali falling in the ocean would help the aids problem

[chasedude]

I watched this on PBS not long ago. Dick Proenneke checked out and went to Alaska to live. The wiki page says he had an accident as a mechanic and it was a life decision making point for him.

I would love to live in the wilderness like that.

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[CoMoChief]

I sure wish I was a ****head that lived in ND. Life would be so awesome on my 40k a year salary with 5 kids!

At least I'm not dumb enough have five kids on a immigrant worker's salary.

Must be fun.

Oh, and after all these year, I'd just like to say that I think you're an arrogant, racist, dickhead and it's too bad the doctors caught your sleep apnea.

It would have saved us all from your continual bullshit.

Dude, is there a day where you're not a giant ****ing douchebag?

Just wondering....

[Chief Pote]

I've always said that friends are over-rated and this place is no place for friends. I know that many disagree, but sometimes the truth hurts.

[El Jefe]

I sure wish I was a ****head that lived in ND. Life would be so awesome on my 40k a year salary with 5 kids!

At least I'm not dumb enough have five kids on a immigrant worker's salary.

Must be fun.

Oh, and after all these year, I'd just like to say that I think you're an arrogant, racist, dickhead and it's too bad the doctors caught your sleep apnea.

It would have saved us all from your continual bullshit.


Good Lord, 40k is an immigrant workers salary, I am substantially below that.

[rad]

It's funny.....Dane's posts in this thread only reinforce what everyone thinks of SoCal...too funny

How stupid is it to think the United States of America will be relegated to a third-world country overnight if Cali dropped into the sea....what a sick, twisted view.....I think Dane needs to check out, or take a vacation in a real state, like Montana or somethin'.

[StcChief]

It's funny.....Dane's posts in this thread only reinforce what everyone thinks of SoCal...too funny

How stupid is it to think the United States of America will be relegated to a third-world country overnight if Cali dropped into the sea....what a sick, twisted view.....I think Dane needs to check out, or take a vacation in a real state, like Montana or somethin'.actually the core intelligence level will rise by 20 points if Cali drops off into ocean.

[rad]

Good Lord, 40k is an immigrant workers salary, I am substantially below that.

In SoCal it is, which is apparently all this guy knows. Everywhere else, except big cities, it's a decent wage.

[rad]

actually the core intelligence level will rise by 20 points if Cali drops off into ocean.

And we'll have less vino, but upstate NY could pick up some of the slack.

[beach tribe]

Californians, and Hollywood types, I would have to say, have to be the main culprit of the "politically correct" pussification of America.

In the words of Tool, "Swim, learn to Swim, learn to Swim, learn to Swim, learn to Swim, learn to,

[ChiefsOne]

It's all about perspective. My measly $135,000 house in Springfield in about 1.5M in Cali. My measly little art directors job in Springfield is equal to about 125k in SoCal. Every year I meet more people getting out of the rat race and moving to the midwest, selling their over priced house and buying a very nice house here with a lot left over.

I am pretty much happy, just wish I had more money and better weather. I don't believe the majority of the population is ever satisfied.

[bogey]

Oh, Boo-****ing-hoo. Everyone is so shallow.

Give me a ****ing break.

Dude, you have a job in an industry that people the world over clamor to be in. There are hundreds of thousands of people who come to Los Angeles ever year that would KILL to have a job like yours - people who will work for nothing, just to get an opportunity to showcase their talent. People who want to be involved in the creation of films and television - people with a passion for this industry.

If you worked MY production company and had this attitude, I replace you as quickly as possible with someone who WANTED to work.

If you're not into it, get out. Don't blame "the shallowness" of the industry or anyone else but yourself.

****ing cry me a river. :rolleyes:

I'm very happy for you that you've found your niche. Why did you choose to capitalize MY? Do you want everyone to know you own your own production company? You and your kind are the reason the rest of the nation has the attitude they do about YOUR industry. You're shallow and transparent and you don't even see it. There are a lot of normal, great people that work in YOUR industry, I don't think you're one of them. From your posts, you're extremely effected like many others in YOUR industry. JMO

[bogey]

Sorry, Man but I have a really hard time hearing someone whine when that person has a family, a home and a great job.

He's not a coal miner, he's a video editor.

No, I'm not a video editor. I love my family and my home. Not my job.

[Donger]

I sure wish I was a ****head that lived in ND. Life would be so awesome on my 40k a year salary with 5 kids!

At least I'm not dumb enough have five kids on a immigrant worker's salary.


My, my. How California-centric your perceptions are...

[bogey]

I hope your life is better physically than mine (every nite on a dialysis machine 12 hours, feeling like shit maybe a 1/3 of the time. But I love my work and I love my kids and grandkids and I am not checking out.

Be strong.

Okay, reality check! Thanks!

[rad]

I'm very happy for you that you've found your niche. Why did you choose to capitalize MY? Do you want everyone to know you own your own production company? You and your kind are the reason the rest of the nation has the attitude they do about YOUR industry. You're shallow and transparent and you don't even see it. There are a lot of normal, great people that work in YOUR industry, I don't think you're one of them. From your posts, you're extremely effected like many others in YOUR industry. JMO

MY GOD!!! WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT TV AND THE MOVIES???

WE'D ALL BE DOOOOOOMED!!!

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[stumppy]

I was going to point out several things about how lucky you are regaurding your income, health, healthy children etc. But, if you haven't already figured that out theres not much I can say that might help. I would like to give you a 'tool' to use that has helped many a planeteer when they are feeling down and out.

When things are getting you down theres nothing like a little perspective about your situation to make you realize how good you have it. Just take a few minutes to yourself, close you eyes and imagine what your life would be like if you were GoChiefs.

[Mr. Kotter]

Please find ONE post where I've either dismissed or insulted Midwesterners.

ONE.

God, you're such a dumb****.

So, I may not know where you live (I thought it was North Dakota) but to be honest, I really don't give a ****. You'd be an asshole in Georgia or an asshole in Oregon.

Bottom line: You're an asshole.

Okay, I finally had a couple of minutes to do the search (thanks, Da Face for the search feature...heh.)

Your arrogance and condescension speak quite clearly and loudly for themselves....

Here's the tip of the iceberg....bon appetite:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4565917&postcount=69

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4546840&postcount=6

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4359797&postcount=55

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4237274&postcount=242

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4237218&postcount=237

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4236894&postcount=231

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4089468&postcount=128

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4058862&postcount=118

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4057162&postcount=107

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4057162&postcount=107

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4038818&postcount=35

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3961193&postcount=149

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3667184&postcount=68

[bogey]

MY GOD!!! WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT TV AND THE MOVIES???

WE'D ALL BE DOOOOOOMED!!!

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Well, it has its place, keeping people entertained is very important. But, that's all it is for the most part, entertainment. People like Dane (and I work with a lot of them) think they're solving the worlds problems and they're not. Most TV is the modern day jester. We all need jesters.
I do need to say, that a large majority of the people in this industry are great, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living. It's just that many shallow/transparent/effected ones have gotten themselves into a position where they are heard from the most. They like to use capital letters and use words like MY. They base their success on their wealth which Dane makes quite apparent.

[El Jefe]

Big_Daddy reps for the non-hippies in California quite well, he is one cooL dude IMO.

[blueballs]

Milkman doesn't seem to have the Kalifornicated mind

[DaneMcCloud]

Okay, I finally had a couple of minutes to do the search (thanks, Da Face for the search feature...heh.)

Your arrogance and condescension speak quite clearly and loudly for themselves....

Here's the tip of the iceberg....bon appetite:

So, Mr. Kunter, you don't think there's ANY difference between California and the Midwest? And my pointing out those differences is somehow slamming those who choose to live there? Really? WTF if wrong with you?

As for the rest, the hatred of California is easy to see. Mr. Kunter advocates that if Cali fell into the ocean, no one would care. But my comments to the contrary are what are singled out. So nice. :rolleyes:

As you for personally, you can kiss my ****ing ass. This guy Bogey, who lives in Studio City and works in Manhattan Beach (two of the nicest communities you'll find anywhere in the country) bitches about his life, while hundreds of thousands of people in Iowa lose their homes and I'm arrogant? WTF?

Also, I need a geography lesson because I don't know where you live? Geography? Did I say that North Dakota was in Australia or something? Additionally, you're the biggest ****ing liar on this forum (Lurch?) and have been busted on many occasions.

So why don't you access one of your "thousands" of computers to GFY.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well, it has its place, keeping people entertained is very important. But, that's all it is for the most part, entertainment. People like Dane (and I work with a lot of them) think they're solving the worlds problems and they're not. Most TV is the modern day jester. We all need jesters.
I do need to say, that a large majority of the people in this industry are great, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living. It's just that many shallow/transparent/effected ones have gotten themselves into a position where they are heard from the most. They like to use capital letters and use words like MY. They base their success on their wealth which Dane makes quite apparent.

Dude, I don't know WTF happened to you from when you were Bogie, but you seem to be a shell of your former self.

My point is that you live in Studio City, work in Manhattan Beach, have a home and a family. There are people in this country RIGHT NOW who have lost their loved ones and homes, yet you are bitching about your job. Hell, there are people on this forum who've lost their job.

Lying the blame at the feet of your "industry" is ****ing bullshit. If you think you have serious problems, you should see a therapist. Not bitch about the industry in which you work, especially the entertainment industry. It's so ****ing white collar it's ridiculous.

[bogey]

So, Mr. Kunter, you don't think there's ANY difference between California and the Midwest? And my pointing out those differences is somehow slamming those who choose to live there? Really? WTF if wrong with you?

As for the rest, the hatred of California is easy to see. Mr. Kunter advocates that if Cali fell into the ocean, no one would care. But my comments to the contrary are what are singled out. So nice. :rolleyes:

As you for personally, you can kiss my ****ing ass. This guy Bogey, who lives in Studio City and works in Manhattan Beach (two of the nicest communities you'll find anywhere in the country) bitches about his life, while hundreds of thousands of people in Iowa lose their homes and I'm arrogant? WTF?

Also, I need a geography lesson because I don't know where you live? Geography? Did I say that North Dakota was in Australia or something? Additionally, you're the biggest ****ing liar on this forum (Lurch?) and have been busted on many occasions.

So why don't you access one of your "thousands" of computers to GFY.

Yes, you are arrogant.

[DaneMcCloud]

My, my. How California-centric your perceptions are...


And again, I love how everyone defends a man who's first response is that Cali could fall into the ocean and the USA would be better off.

Talk about a bunch of narcissistic assholes.

[DaneMcCloud]

Yes, you are arrogant.


Please explain.

I'm arrogant but you're a cry baby?

[Donger]

Dane, you seem to be implying that Bogey should STFU because he has the privilege of working in the entertainment industry. Is that correct?

[DaneMcCloud]

Dude, is there a day where you're not a giant ****ing douchebag?

Just wondering....

And I would ask you the same question.

[Donger]

And again, I love how everyone defends a man who's first response is that Cali could fall into the ocean and the USA would be better off.

Talk about a bunch of narcissistic assholes.

I didn't defend him. I pointed out how California-centric your perceptions are.

[Donger]

Please explain.

I'm arrogant but you're a cry baby?

This one might be applicable:

1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner

[DaneMcCloud]

Dane, you seem to be implying that Bogey should STFU because he has the privilege of working in the entertainment industry. Is that correct?

No.

I'm implying that a man with a family, a nice home, and a good job has no business complaining about life in a forum where people have relatives that have been ravaged by the forces of nature, that don't have homes and where some have lost family members. A forum in which there are good, hard-working people who don't have jobs, homes or family.

I think it's disingenuous.

[bogey]

Dude, I don't know WTF happened to you from when you were Bogie, but you seem to be a shell of your former self.

My point is that you live in Studio City, work in Manhattan Beach, have a home and a family. There are people in this country RIGHT NOW who have lost their loved ones and homes, yet you are bitching about your job. Hell, there are people on this forum who've lost their job.

Lying the blame at the feet of your "industry" is ****ing bullshit. If you think you have serious problems, you should see a therapist. Not bitch about the industry in which you work, especially the entertainment industry. It's so ****ing white collar it's ridiculous.

Define white collar.

[DaneMcCloud]

I didn't defend him. I pointed out how California-centric your perceptions are.

Let's put it this way, Donger:

Rob went to one extreme (Cali could wash into the ocean and the USA would be better off) and I went to the other.

It wasn't the other way around.

[DaneMcCloud]

Define white collar.

Are you joking?

[Mr. Kotter]

... Mr. Kunter advocates that if Cali fell into the ocean, no one would care...

DameMcGerbiling:

Your reading comprehension sucks: I stated the rest of the country....wouldn't give it "much thought."

I didn't advocate or "wish" it. I stated what I anticipated would be the reaction of many folks in the country. I do think it's true with many.

Too many have experienced the arrogant condescension and dick-headedness of chumps like you and other butt-pirate sympathizers.

[Donger]

No.

I'm implying that a man with a family, a nice home, and a good job has no business complaining about life in a forum where people have relatives that have been ravaged by the forces of nature, that don't have homes and where some have lost family members. A forum in which there are good, hard-working people who don't have jobs, homes or family.

I think it's disingenuous.

There is always someone who is worse off than you. I fail to see why that should preclude bogey from venting. People do it all the time here and I've not seen you go on the attack with them.

Therefore, I find it likely that you are doing so because of his line of work.

But, I could be wrong.

[bogey]

No.

I'm implying that a man with a family, a nice home, and a good job has no business complaining about life in a forum where people have relatives that have been ravaged by the forces of nature, that don't have homes and where some have lost family members. A forum in which there are good, hard-working people who don't have jobs, homes or family.

I think it's disingenuous.

For the record. My original intention was not to complain about my job. My original intention was to point out that I have a hard time appreciating/seeing happiness.

[bogey]

Are you joking?

Your post indicates being white collar is a bad thing. I want to know how you define white collar.

[DaneMcCloud]

LameMcGerbiling:

Your reading comprehension sucks: I stated the rest of the country....wouldn't give it "much thought."

I didn't advocate or "wish" it. I stated what I anticipated would be the reaction of many folks in the country. I do think it's true with many.

Too many have experienced the arrogant condescension and dick-headedness of chumps like you and other butt-pirate sympathizers.

Whatever, Kunter.

You take any chance you can get to attack me, California or your ill-perceived lifestyle of the 40 million Americans that reside here. But that's fine. Go ahead and play your stupid games and throw your childish remarks my way.

I really don't give a shit. It just goes to prove who's the shallow individual in this debate.

[DaneMcCloud]

Your post indicates being white collar is a bad thing. I want to know how you define white collar.

JFC.

I'm saying that it's so cushy that there's no reason to complain. You're not working in the coal mines.

Dude, are you all there?

[bogey]

JFC.

I'm saying that it's so cushy that there's no reason to complain. You're not working in the coal mines.

Dude, are you all there?

I misinterpreted your meaning.

[DaneMcCloud]

For the record. My original intention was not to complain about my job. My original intention was to point out that I have a hard time appreciating/seeing happiness.

Then you should really visit a therapist. If looking outside or taking a walk on a beautiful 85 degree day doesn't help your spirits, I don't think that venting on a BB will help much.

You should really seek some help before it gets out of hand.

[Mr. Kotter]

Whatever, Kunter.

You take any chance you can get to attack me, California or your ill-perceived lifestyle of the 40 million Americans that reside here. But that's fine. Go ahead and play your stupid games and throw your childish remarks my way.

I really don't give a shit. It just goes to prove who's the shallow individual in this debate.

The record speaks for itself. I know you liberals in general, and Californians in particular are sensitive types.

This thread, and the links to your previous posts....show us all any of us need to know about you.

[bogey]

Then you should really visit a therapist. If looking outside or taking a walk on a beautiful 85 degree day doesn't help your spirits, I don't think that venting on a BB will help much.

You should really seek some help before it gets out of hand.

Actually, venting on this BB did help put things in perspective. But you're right about the rest.

[Donger]

Then you should really visit a therapist. If looking outside or taking a walk on a beautiful 85 degree day doesn't help your spirits, I don't think that venting on a BB will help much.

You should really seek some help before it gets out of hand.

I'm not a big anti-California person, but the tendency of some Californians who make it out to be some utopia does become somewhat irksome.

[DaneMcCloud]

The record speaks for itself.

This thread, and the links to your previous posts....show us all we need to know about you and yours.

And like I said, pointing out the differences in lifestyle and musical taste is SUCH an insulting thing to do.

You're reaching for something that just isn't there. :rolleyes:

But that's nothing new for lying dickbag such as yourself.

[Mr. Kotter]

And like I said, pointing out the differences in lifestyle and musical taste is SUCH an insulting thing to do.

You're reaching for something that just isn't there. :rolleyes:

But that's nothing new for lying dickbag such as yourself.

Lying implies intent to deceive; only idiots like you would have been "deceived" by my silliness and shenanigans. Only a dolt wouldn't catch on, if they were paying any attention at all.

Of course, I should be more sensitive to the abilities of an average dolt, I suppose. :hmmm:

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm not a big anti-California person, but the tendency of some Californians who make it out to be some utopia does become somewhat irksome.

I guess it depends on your perspective.

I don't really care about what else is happening in this state. Gay marriage, taxes, blah, blah, blah. I only care about the things that I can control.

My job, my family, my friends - that's what's important to me. And the fact that I get to spend time with these people in beautiful, sunny weather almost 365 days a year is a blessing. The ocean, the mountains, blue skies, the walks, hikes and biking at the ocean - these are all amazing gifts.

We don't have thunderstorms or tornadoes, snowstorms or ice and while geology is a concern, it's not a daily concern. I lived that for 27 years and greatly appreciate the fact that I don't deal with that now.

And while it's certainly not Utopia, there's so much to do and so much enjoy that focusing on the negatives in life has been reduced to an absolute minimum. If at all.

[DaneMcCloud]

Lying implies intent to deceive; only idiots like you would have been "deceived" by my silliness and shenanigans. Only a dolt wouldn't catch on, if they were paying any attention at all.

Of course, I should be more sensitive to the abilities of an average dolt, I suppose. :hmmm:

Yeah, that's right. Because I'm so dumb that I can't figure out that you're a racist, homophobic POS who has no business teaching the youth of America anything.

[BillyMaze]

Do you ever get the urge to just simply check out. Right now, I have that urge. I'm so ****ing tired. Am I the only one that feels this way?
Paxil

[Donger]

I guess it depends on your perspective.

I don't really care about what else is happening in this state. Gay marriage, taxes, blah, blah, blah. I only care about the things that I can control.

My job, my family, my friends - that's what's important to me. And the fact that I get to spend time with these people in beautiful, sunny weather almost 365 days a year is a blessing. The ocean, the mountains, blue skies, the walks, hikes and biking at the ocean - these are all amazing gifts.

We don't have thunderstorms or tornadoes, snowstorms or ice and while geology is a concern, it's not a daily concern. I lived that for 27 years and greatly appreciate the fact that I don't deal with that now.

And while it's certainly not Utopia, there's so much to do and so much enjoy that focusing on the negatives in life has been reduced to an absolute minimum. If at all.

That's a pretty good example.

[FAX]

Way to stir up the sh*t, Mr. DaneMcCloud!!!

Having lived in the Valley, a canyon or two, Santa Monica, and on the beach at Malibu, I'm more pro-California than anti-California. But, like most places, it's the people that make the geography worthwhile to live in.

However, Mr. bogey wasn't complaining about his family, his home, or the entertainment industry (as I read his original post). He was expressing "unhappiness". Perhaps his environment contributes to those negative feelings and perhaps not. Either way, it doesn't matter. Instead, maybe Mr. bogey is simply meant for something different and deep inside his consciousness there's something that is making him uncomfortable with the status quo which he interprets as "unhappiness".

Look at it this way, people can be satisfied with their current existence, but if everyone were to do that, Abraham Lincoln would never have read a book and would have split logs his entire life and been perfectly content with that role. Instead, he was drawn to something greater. That "feeling" of discomfort or lack of fulfillment isn't something to denegrate, it's something to celebrate and maybe Mr. bogey just needs to discover the nature of his true calling.

FAX

[bogey]

Way to stir up the sh*t, Mr. DaneMcCloud!!!

Having lived in the Valley, a canyon or two, Santa Monica, and on the beach at Malibu, I'm more pro-California than anti-California. But, like most places, it's the people that make the geography worthwhile to live in.

However, Mr. bogey wasn't complaining about his family, his home, or the entertainment industry (as I read his original post). He was expressing "unhappiness". Perhaps his environment contributes to those negative feelings and perhaps not. Either way, it doesn't matter. Instead, maybe Mr. bogey is simply meant for something different and deep inside his consciousness there's something that is making him uncomfortable with the status quo which he interprets as "unhappiness".

Look at it this way, people can be satisfied with their current existence, but if everyone were to do that, Abraham Lincoln would never have read a book and would have split logs his entire life and been perfectly content with that role. Instead, he was drawn to something greater. That "feeling" of discomfort or lack of fulfillment isn't something to denegrate, it's something to celebrate and maybe Mr. bogey just needs to discover the nature of his true calling.

FAX

Could I have an hour of your time? Do you have a couch, or should I bring my own?

[Mr. Kotter]

Yeah, that's right. Because I'm so dumb that I can't figure out that you're a racist, homophobic POS who has no business teaching the youth of America anything.

I'll plead guilty to the dolt definition of "homophobic"....of course, the idea that I'm in "fear" of homos is pretty patently silly, but we'll set that aside for the moment.

I take charges of racism more seriously; I'm sure you must have me confused with someone else....because there is no way on earth that even a dolt like you could confuse me with someone who is "racist."

You asked me for proof of your anti-midwestern bias; I supplied it, and then some.

If you wish to have any credibility at all, you should cite any posts that you honestly feel....demonstrate racism on my part. I will await your findings eagerly, so I can laugh my ass off. (HINT: you won't find it.)

[FAX]

I've never really understood the term, "homophobic". Are people really concerned that gay guys are going to break into their house one night and replace their draperies?

FAX

[bogey]

Mr. Kotter and DaneMcCloud's debate is very entertaining, it's lifted my spirit. You guys are so kind to do this for me.

[bogey]

I've never really understood the term, "homophobic". Are people really concerned that gay guys are going to break into their house one night and replace their draperies?

FAX

ROFL Ziiiiing

[chasedude]

Then you should really visit a therapist. If looking outside or taking a walk on a beautiful 85 degree day doesn't help your spirits, I don't think that venting on a BB will help much.

You should really seek some help before it gets out of hand.

I think you're wrong. BB's are great for getting people together under common issues and talk about them. Talking about it is the first step to some help. Unfortunately there are those that love to "pile on" rather than help.

There's alot of helpful people on here and alot of arrogant ones. The arrogant one's are the man reason I don't post alot. Why add to the fire?

[stumppy]

I've never really understood the term, "homophobic". Are people really concerned that gay guys are going to break into their house one night and replace their draperies?

FAX


They do much more than that Mr. FAX. I've heard stories of teamsters waking up in the morning only to find an entirerly new wardrobe in their closet, a complete line of skin and hair care products in their bathroom and their Blue Tick Healer had been replaced with a Yorkshire Terrier.

/shudder/ The horror of it all.

[stumppy]

Mr. Kotter and DaneMcCloud's debate is very entertaining, it's lifted my spirit. You guys are so kind to do this for me.

Just remember, close your eyes and keep saying 'At least I'm not GoChiefs, at least I'm not GoChiefs, at least I'm not Gochiefs'.

[bogey]

I think you're wrong. BB's are great for getting people together under common issues and talk about them. Talking about it is the first step to some help. Unfortunately there are those that love to "pile on" rather than help.

There's alot of helpful people on here and alot of arrogant ones. The arrogant one's are the man reason I don't post alot. Why add to the fire?

QFT
There was a lot of helpful advise. Thanks to everyone. Seriously.

[FAX]

They do much more than that Mr. FAX. I've heard stories of teamsters waking up in the morning only to find an entirerly new wardrobe in their closet, a complete line of skin and hair care products in their bathroom and their Blue Tick Healer had been replaced with a Yorkshire Terrier.

/shudder/ The horror of it all.

My God!!! They're like Keister Bunnies!!!

FAX

[bogey]

Just remember, close your eyes and keep saying 'At least I'm not GoChiefs, at least I'm not GoChiefs, at least I'm not Gochiefs'.

That helps!

[Friendo]

QFT
There was a lot of helpful advise. Thanks to everyone. Seriously.

pay it forward when things get better!

[DaneMcCloud]

Way to stir up the sh*t, Mr. DaneMcCloud!!!

It's the off-season. Someone's gotta keep this place hoppin'!

[DaneMcCloud]

Mr. Kotter and DaneMcCloud's debate is very entertaining, it's lifted my spirit. You guys are so kind to do this for me.

There's nothing like two old-school posters who are on the opposite side of the spectrum to fire up an otherwise dead period between OTA's and Training Camp.

And FTR, while Kotter wouldn't mind the death and destruction of countless lives, I would personally be devastated if anything happened to my entire family, all of whom reside in the Kansas City area.

[DaneMcCloud]

You asked me for proof of your anti-midwestern bias; I supplied it, and then some.

How is it "bias" when I've pointed out the differences? WTH, Dude? Did you READ anything I posted or did you just do a search with "DaneMcCloud" and "Midwest"?

Are you telling me that it's socially acceptable to have long hair in business where you live?

That the Ramones and Lou Reed are a staple of radio?

Or that Asians are prevalent in the KC area?

Responding to the label that all SoCal citizens are "morally bankrupt"?

Stating that nowhere in the Midwest would I be able to work in such a capacity in the entertainment business as in Los Angeles?

Stating my tax burden is higher in my state than in yours?

Stating that a degree from K-State is different than one from Stanford?

Stating the lifestyle in Cali is different from Kansas?

These are not facts? I didn't state an opinion - I stated facts. And those posts were littered with personal experience, not opinion.

I hope you don't teach reading comprehension.

[Fish]

I find it amusing that Dane fires off a laundry list of material crap in an effort to prove to Bogey that he should be happy.... Cali job, neighborhood, nice house, nice cars..... he should be happy like Dane(superhappy guy in his own right), and others don't know what they're talking about...

But yet, Bogey is still bummed despite the Cali Happiness Checklist??

:hmmm:

[DaneMcCloud]

I find it amusing that Dane fires off a laundry list of material crap in an effort to prove to Bogey that he should be happy.... Cali job, neighborhood, nice house, nice cars..... he should be happy like Dane(superhappy guy in his own right), and others don't know what they're talking about...

But yet, Bogey is still bummed despite the Cali Happiness Checklist??

:hmmm:


Actually, I didn't mention cars or house but I think Bogey's underlying problems are much deeper than he's let on.

I hope he seeks professional help and gets well soon. No one, regardless of where they live, should be unhappy when blessed with a great family, good job and nice living conditions.

[Mr. Kotter]

How is it "bias" when I've pointed out the differences? WTH, Dude? Did you READ anything I posted or did you just do a search with "DaneMcCloud" and "Midwest"?

Are you telling me that it's socially acceptable to have long hair in business where you live?

That the Ramones and Lou Reed are a staple of radio?

Or that Asians are prevalent in the KC area?

Responding to the label that all SoCal citizens are "morally bankrupt"?

Stating that nowhere in the Midwest would I be able to work in such a capacity in the entertainment business as in Los Angeles?

Stating my tax burden is higher in my state than in yours?

Stating that a degree from K-State is different than one from Stanford?

Stating the lifestyle in Cali is different from Kansas?

These are not facts? I didn't state an opinion - I stated facts. And those posts were littered with personal experience, not opinion.

I hope you don't teach reading comprehension.

Your contempt, scorn, and condescension is quite clear to anyone who isn't blind or stupid. Your attitude is crystal clear.

However, I'm still waiting for you to cite evidence of my "racism."

(HINT: fwiw, you won't find anything....so the honorable thing for you to do would be to... go ahead and rescind your slander.)

[DaneMcCloud]

That's a pretty good example.

Mr. Ambiguity strikes again!

[DaneMcCloud]

Your contempt, scorn, and condescension is quite clear to anyone who isn't blind or stupid.

I'm still waiting for you to cite evidence of my "racism."

(HINT: fwiw, you won't find anything....so you should go ahead and rescind your slander.)


If you read contempt or scorn into any of those posts, then you have a personal problem.

Your perception (or lack therof) is so skewed and twisted that it's blinding you from understanding the true intent of those posts, which was to give examples of my life and events that pertain to me.

Your attempts to turn these into a Midwestern hate-fest is weak and unwarranted.

[Mr. Kotter]

If you read contempt or scorn into any of those posts, then you have a personal problem.

Your perception (or lack therof) is so skewed and twisted that it's blinding you from understanding the true intent of those posts, which was to give examples of my life and events that pertain to me.

Your attempts to turn these into a Midwestern hate-fest is weak and unwarranted.


Keep tellin' yourself that, Anton. Even if no one else believes you. :)

I take it, you aren't gonna man-up on the "evidence" of my alleged "racism?"

[DaneMcCloud]

Keep tellin' yourself that, Anton. Even if no one else believes you. :)

Anton?

So I've conceived all of those anecdotes? Nothing "really" happened to me?

W.T.F?

[El Jefe]

I think you're wrong. BB's are great for getting people together under common issues and talk about them. Talking about it is the first step to some help. Unfortunately there are those that love to "pile on" rather than help.

There's alot of helpful people on here and alot of arrogant ones. The arrogant one's are the man reason I don't post alot. Why add to the fire?

Good post.

[FAX]

ROFL

Keister Bunnies!!!!

Get it?

ROFL

FAX

[Mr. Kotter]

Anton?

So I've conceived all of those anecdotes? Nothing "really" happened to me?

W.T.F?


Anecdotes? Of me being "racist?" :spock:

Evidence, man. Posts. Where is your evidence? Seriously. :shrug:

(It don't exist, so it's okay skippy (--no offense intended, SkipTowne...heh)....just admit you were wrong. Seriously. You must have me confused with someone else.)

Keister bunnies, instead of Easter Bunnies....FAX? Heh. I get it. :thumb:

[DaneMcCloud]

Anecdotes? Of me being "racist?" :spock:

Evidence, man. Posts. Where is your evidence? Seriously. :shrug:

(It don't exist, so it's okay skippy (--no offense intended, SkipTowne...heh)....just admit you were wrong. Seriously. You must have me confused with someone else.)

Keister bunnies, instead of Easter Bunnies....FAX? Heh. I get it. :thumb:

Wow, your reading comprehension really IS poor.

The anecdotes I refer to are those to which you have linked. There is no evidence of "Midwest slandering", only real-life examples. I lived in Kansas for 27 years and have been in SoCal for 15 years: I think that's I'm fairly qualified to point out the differences, socially and otherwise, of living in both places. You, OTOH, have not lived in SoCal so your perception is media-driven. One bad apple...

I don't have the time nor the will to search for your "racist" comments. If you say they don't exist, I'll take you at your word.

So I'll change my description of you to ill-informed and homophobic.

Better?

[MOhillbilly]

Do you ever get the urge to just simply check out. Right now, I have that urge. I'm so ****ing tired. Am I the only one that feels this way?
turn me loose, set me free, somewhere in the middle of montana.

[MOhillbilly]

My uncle said bogey is a good man.

[bogey]

My uncle said bogey is a good man.

Your uncle has good tastes in music, women (Bambie sp?) and friends. My past is the life I yearn for.

[MOhillbilly]

Your uncle has good tastes in music, women (Bambie sp?) and friends. My past is the life I yearn for.

you cant ever go back guy. but i hear you to an extent. the south ozarks is wonderful this time of year and if youre really that tired of it remember theres lots of 'industry' down south. you ever check out DAs myspace?

[ChieflySpeaking]

I just can't help but thinking that everyone would be getting along better if gas prices weren't $4 plus a gallon and KC had just won the bowl.

[FAX]

... Keister bunnies, instead of Easter Bunnies....FAX? Heh. I get it. ...

ROFL

I know!!

Keister Bunnies!!!

ROFL

FAX

[Fish]

:D

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8904/12138924091ikrlraeq4.jpg

[chasedude]

:D

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8904/12138924091ikrlraeq4.jpg

As of this moment I think Iowa would top California on this one.

[bogey]

you cant ever go back guy. but i hear you to an extent. the south ozarks is wonderful this time of year and if youre really that tired of it remember theres lots of 'industry' down south. you ever check out DAs myspace?

You know what, I know you're right, I can't go back. But man I wish I could.

[bogey]

you cant ever go back guy. but i hear you to an extent. the south ozarks is wonderful this time of year and if youre really that tired of it remember theres lots of 'industry' down south. you ever check out DAs myspace?

I just sent him an email.
Thanks.

[bogey]

:D

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8904/12138924091ikrlraeq4.jpg

Fortunately, I'm not one of them. But there are a hell of a lot of people out here that have been sucked in and are now suffering.

[ChieflySpeaking]

Do you ever get the urge to just simply check out. Right now, I have that urge. I'm so ****ing tired. Am I the only one that feels this way?

Do you ever have this dream?

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Hang in there man. They say money can't buy happiness, but hey if you have a family that you love and loves you that's all that really matters.

[Bwana]

Oh, Boo-****ing-hoo. Everyone is so shallow.

Give me a ****ing break.

Dude, you have a job in an industry that people the world over clamor to be in. There are hundreds of thousands of people who come to Los Angeles ever year that would KILL to have a job like yours - people who will work for nothing, just to get an opportunity to showcase their talent. People who want to be involved in the creation of films and television - people with a passion for this industry.

If you worked MY production company and had this attitude, I replace you as quickly as possible with someone who WANTED to work.

If you're not into it, get out. Don't blame "the shallowness" of the industry or anyone else but yourself.

****ing cry me a river. :rolleyes:

Oh for fuvk sake. :shake: Because you like it and it's your dream gig, sure as hell doesn't mean everyone on the face of the earth rubs one out at the thought of getting into your line of work Ace. You seem insulted because he doesn't like his job, based on the fact you are in the same industry? ROFL

That just cracks me up Hollywood.

[Ebolapox]

:)
...
The monkey idea may just be the solution.


and buy him armor and a sword. train him to fight. that way, when you get home from work, you can do battle! ' MONKEY, IS THAT YOU?' ...'I'm in here!'...wait, did you just talk, monkey?--'YES, I TAUGHT MYSELF TO TALK!'

[stlchiefs]

and buy him armor and a sword. train him to fight. that way, when you get home from work, you can do battle! ' MONKEY, IS THAT YOU?' ...'I'm in here!'...wait, did you just talk, monkey?--'YES, I TAUGHT MYSELF TO TALK!'

Evil Monkey!

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh for fuvk sake. :shake: Because you like it and it's your dream gig, sure as hell doesn't mean everyone on the face of the earth rubs one out at the thought of getting into your line of work Ace. You seem insulted because he doesn't like his job, based on the fact you are in the same industry? ROFL

That just cracks me up Hollywood.

Gee, thanks for the insight, Mr. Gunsmoke.

I'm sure you're intimately familiar with this business and this town. You know, living in Montana and all. And considering the fact that there are a countless number of magazines and a countless number of television shows and programs covering Hollywood, I think it's safe to say that I know what the **** I'm talking about.

Unlike you.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Think no one cares? Skip a car payment.

Not sure what comedian said that, but it's not original.

[Pablo]

Not all of CA has to fall into the ocean, just L.A. and Oakland.

I know we'd all really miss out on the latest Tomkat and Brangelina updates, and heaven knows I couldn't role myself out of bed knowing the Mole 14 wasn't going to be produced, but I think we'd all move on from there.

[blueballs]

my opinion trumps your opinion
I'm the mold you hope to conform to
quite frankly you don't have the nose

[GoHuge]

Hey bro I get that all the time. I have terrible insomnia. If your having a tough time laying in bed and getting to sleep go to your doctor and ask them if they'll give you a script for some Xanax. Needless to say getting to sleep is not a problem and the best part is it only has a 1 hr half-life so you wake up feeliing like a million bucks. Tylenol PM will leave you drowst as shit the next day. Careful though because Xanax can cause you to becoming on it just to get to sleep normally. Just talk to your doctor and take it EXACTLY the way it is prescribed. Also alot of that have been without sleep for even just one day have their reaction times be that of of someone that is drunnk. Not really sure is this is your prob, but just thought I'd throw that ought there for you. You can give me a PM and I can put you in touch with sleep disorder doctos. Good luck

[beach tribe]

Hey bro I get that all the time. I have terrible insomnia. If your having a tough time laying in bed and getting to sleep go to your doctor and ask them if they'll give you a script for some Xanax. Needless to say getting to sleep is not a problem and the best part is it only has a 1 hr half-life so you wake up feeliing like a million bucks. Tylenol PM will leave you drowst as shit the next day. Careful though because Xanax can cause you to becoming on it just to get to sleep normally. Just talk to your doctor and take it EXACTLY the way it is prescribed. Also alot of that have been without sleep for even just one day have their reaction times be that of of someone that is drunnk. Not really sure is this is your prob, but just thought I'd throw that ought there for you. You can give me a PM and I can put you in touch with sleep disorder doctos. Good luck
I know you mean well, but pointing a depressed person towards Xannys is a terrible idea.

bogey, stay away from the Xanax.

[Bwana]

Gee, thanks for the insight, Mr. Gunsmoke.

I'm sure you're intimately familiar with this business and this town. You know, living in Montana and all. And considering the fact that there are a countless number of magazines and a countless number of television shows and programs covering Hollywood, I think it's safe to say that I know what the **** I'm talking about.

Unlike you.

I think you're missing the point Hollywood. The guy seems to be burned out on his job and needs a change, why in the hell would you give a rats ass if he doesn't warm up to "your business?" Not everyone is cut out for the same job, or enjoys the same things in life. I have no doubt that you know the business and really seem to enjoy it, but he doesn't seem to share the same zest for the industry.

bogey: If you're that burned out, find a way to make a change buddy.

[DaneMcCloud]

I think you're missing the point Hollywood. The guy seems to be burned out on his job and needs a change, why in the hell would you give a rats ass if he doesn't warm up to "your business?" Not everyone is cut out for the same job, or enjoys the same things in life. I have no doubt that you know the business and really seem to enjoy it, bet he doesn't seem to share the same zest for the industry.

bogey: If you're that burned out, find a way to make a change buddy.

Well apparently, you hadn't read past my first reply.

And Bogey already admitted that he couldn't get out.

I hope he finds a suitable solution.

[bogey]

Again, thanks so much for all the positive input. Today's going to be a good day.

[beach tribe]

Again, thanks so much for all the positive input. Today's going to be a good day.

Damn right it its. TGIF. Let's get it on.

[Logical]

Dane, you seem to be implying that Bogey should STFU because he has the privilege of working in the entertainment industry. Is that correct?
Honestly I did not read it that way. I read it that Bogey should be thankful he has a job a nice home and his health along with a family. If you guys would quit concentrating on Dane's negative reaction to the Cali bashing you might find that he really makes solid points.

He might have said it to Bogey in a nicer manner, but I believe his point was enjoy your life you actually have it pretty good.

As to Bogey I think everyone has a bad day and he just posted about it. I am sure he is fine now.

[ChiTown]

Not that anyone cares on this thread, but I love my job.

[Bwana]

Honestly I did not read it that way. I read it that Bogey should be thankful he has a job a nice home and his health along with a family.

A lot of people read Hollywoods posts and came to the same conclusion. He may be ok "in real life," but he comes across as about the most arrogant prick on the face of the earth in a lot of his posts.

Coincidence?

[bogey]

Honestly I did not read it that way. I read it that Bogey should be thankful he has a job a nice home and his health along with a family. If you guys would quit concentrating on Dane's negative reaction to the Cali bashing you might find that he really makes solid points.

He might have said it to Bogey in a nicer manner, but I believe his point was enjoy your life you actually have it pretty good.

As to Bogey I think everyone has a bad day and he just posted about it. I am sure he is fine now.

I did have a very bad day. Truthfully, I have several, and I wondered if others do too. I am quite sure I need to speak with a professional. However, your post brought me back to reality. I think Dane may be unintentionally arrogant, but I also think he's a very content guy. That's great for him. I know I should be thankful I have a lot going for me, sometimes I am, often I'm not. Not because I'm a whiner, at least I don't think I am. The was my point to the thread. That's why I asked the question.

[bogey]

Anyway, it's Friday, I'm going to go home.

[ChiTown]

Anyway, it's Friday, I'm going to go home.

Dude, I've been home for hours......your job must suck:p

[bogey]

Dude, I've been home for hours......your job must suck:p

I have an hour and a half commute on the 405 freeway ahead me. Yipee!

[DaneMcCloud]

I have an hour and a half commute on the 405 freeway ahead me. Yipee!

Why not have your family join you on Friday nights in Hermosa or Manhattan Beach?

A little ocean-side entertainment (restaurants and shopping) is always a stress-reliever.

Then head home after the traffic dies down.

[Logical]

I did have a very bad day. Truthfully, I have several, and I wondered if others do too. I am quite sure I need to speak with a professional. However, your post brought me back to reality. I think Dane may be unintentionally arrogant, but I also think he's a very content guy. That's great for him. I know I should be thankful I have a lot going for me, sometimes I am, often I'm not. Not because I'm a whiner, at least I don't think I am. The was my point to the thread. That's why I asked the question.


I advise that if you don't have a trusted friend you can talk to then professional help might work. For that matter even though I have never been religious I know that Ministers, Priests and Nuns are for the most part well intentioned people and usually trained listeners. You might want to take advantage of their free services.

Take care Bogey and try not to let it get you down.

[RNR]

A lot of people read Hollywoods posts and came to the same conclusion. He may be ok "in real life," but he comes across as about the most arrogant prick on the face of the earth in a lot of his posts.

Coincidence?

Yeah I get the same vibe.

[blueballs]

I'm going to go out for milk
then not come back
****ing bitch