So what are the point totals for different rep statements.

[Logical]

For instance to get to Claythan's legendary status what is the total, also say what is the level where you become Kyle?

[teedubya]

I think 100,000 is the Kyle version.

[Skip Towne]

Huh?

[Bugeater]

Huh?

This isn't a pot thread.

[blueballs]

Harnessing the untapped power of breast motion.
By Adrienne So
Posted Monday, June 23, 2008, at 4:10 PM ET

As a woman who loves sports, I've always found the concept of breasts bothersome. If all goes according to plan, they will fulfill their intended function for about three of the 70 years that I have them. The rest of the time, they alternate between getting in my way and embarrassing me. They are a favorite target of Frisbees and soccer balls. Finding sports bras is a chore. Shirts don't fit.

And these are just the physical discomforts. I am still tortured by the memory of three cousins standing in a circle around me, at the impressionable age of 10, mocking my early development and telling me that I was going to be the Asian Dolly Parton. Fortunately, that never happened, but the possibility haunted my late childhood.

Then one day recently I had an idea. As I rode public transportation to the office, my messenger bag slung uncomfortably across my chest, I thought, "Why not put the girls to work?" Human-powered devices are showing up everywhere, from Rotterdam's sustainable dance floor to human-powered gyms in Hong Kong. The time seemed perfect—perhaps even overdue!—for a bra that could harness the untapped power of breast motion.

The idea of an energy-generating bra isn't as crazy as it might sound. A company called Triumph International Japan recently unveiled a solar-powered bra that supposedly will generate enough energy to power an iPod. But I live in foggy San Francisco and prefer not to walk around in my underwear in public. Could someone design an iPod-powering bra for me?

I decided to run the question past some scientists. It turns out that the physics of breast motion have been studied closely for the last two decades by a gamut of researchers, most of them women. LaJean Lawson, a former professor of exercise science at Oregon State University, has studied breast motion since 1985 and now works as a consultant for companies like Nike to develop better sports bra designs. Lawson was enthusiastic about my idea but warned it would be tricky to pull off. You would need the right breast size and the right material, she explained, and the bra itself would have to be cleverly designed. "It's just a matter of finding the sweet spot, between reducing motion to the point where it's comfortable but still allowing enough motion to power your iPod," she said.

Lawson explained that breasts move on three different axes: from side to side, front to back, and up and down. The most motion is generated on the vertical axis. Naturally, the bigger the breast, the more momentum it generates. "Let's face it—if you're a double-A marathoner, you're probably not going to get that iPod up and running," Lawson said. Measurements compiled by Lawson and her colleagues show that a D-cup in a low-support bra can travel as much as 35 inches up and down (35 inches!) during exercise, while a B-cup in a high-support bra barely moves an inch.

Fabric and design are also important factors in distance traveled. Elastic fabric allows the breast to move more. Choosing between an encapsulation design, in which the cups are separated, or a compression design, where they are hugged close to the body, can also affect breast motion. An encapsulation design further reduces motion because two smaller masses are easier to control than one large one. "Also, if you have a really high neckline, the breasts won't fly up," Lawson said. So I was in the market for an elastic, compression-style bra with a low neckline. Sexy!

Of course, even a bra that perfectly maximized motion (without sacrificing support and comfort) would be useful to me only if there were a way to turn that motion into energy. For a primer on how to do that, I turned to Professor Zhong Lin Wang of Georgia Tech, who is currently working to develop fabric made from nanowires that will capture energy from motion. Wang's wires are about 1/1,000th the width of a human hair. When woven together in a fabric, these nanowires rub up against one another and convert the mechanical energy from the friction into an electric charge. According to Wang, the fabric is cheap to produce and surprisingly efficient; his team hopes to use it to create energy-generating T-shirts and other articles of clothing. A square meter of fiber produces about 80 milliwatts of power, which is enough to run a small device like a cell phone. Wang expects to have a shirt available for purchase within five years.

Many bra patterns call for about a meter of fabric, which would probably mean that a regular bra would have enough energy to power an iPod. But the fabric could also be layered, doubling or even tripling the amount of energy produced. I asked Wang whether his fabric could be used to make a bra. "Bras would be ideal," he said. "There is a lot of friction and movement in that general area. And the fabric would be thick."

"So you can generate enough energy to power an iPod?" I asked.

"Definitely," Wang said.

I asked Wang if this bra would be machine-washable.

"You don't need to wash a bra!" he said.

I disagreed. Wang said his team has been working on the washing problem for a while. Nanowire technology can generate electricity only if the space between the wires is maintained, and that space might be affected if the fabric were agitated by washing. One solution would be to layer the fabric so that the parts that directly touch the skin could be washed, leaving the nanowires in between untouched.

There was one more approach I wanted to investigate, one that might supplement Wang's technology. Was there a way to capture the energy of the bra strap, which bears the pressure of holding up the breast mass? To answer this question, I called Larry Rome, a biology professor at the University of Pennsylvania and the creator of Lightning Packs. The Lightning Pack, intended for long-haul hikers and for the military, generates kinetic energy from the vertical displacement of a heavy backpack. Would it be possible to use the kinetic energy generated from a breast's vertical displacement?

"The backpacks we've built are intended to carry between 40 to 80 pounds," Rome said.

I cited the D-cup numbers given to me by Lawson. "Well, that's not normal, is it?" Rome asked.

I said that it probably wasn't. Yet after a moment's thought, Rome came up with an idea. The Lightning Pack uses a rotary generator, which converts motion into energy by winding a rotor as the backpack moves up and down. Rotary generators produce up to 7 watts of energy, enough to power a compact fluorescent light bulb. Rome said it might be possible to insert a linear generator into the bra. A linear generator is a lot smaller and creates energy by moving a piston up and down. Rome conceded that with the right body type, this just might work, though he warned it "probably wouldn't be very comfortable."

Still, if someone were to engineer a kinetically powered bra, even one that isn't quite as comfortable as the old-fashioned kind, I'd be intrigued—and I might just start looking at my breasts in a different light. Maybe it's not very sexy to see breasts as a pair of batteries, but oil prices are so high, people are jogging to work. It may be time for breasts to start pulling their own weight.

[blueballs]

TOKYO (Reuters) - Ladies, take your battle for the environment a little closer to your heart with a solar-powered bra that can generate enough electric energy to charge a mobile phone or an iPod.

Lingerie maker Triumph International Japan Ltd unveiled its environmentally friendly, and green colored, "Solar Power Bra" on Wednesday in Tokyo which features a solar panel worn around the stomach.

The panel requires light to generate electricity and the concept bra will not be in stores anytime soon, said Triumph spokeswoman Yoshiko Masuda, as "people usually can not go outside without wearing clothes over it."

But it does send the message of how lingerie could possibly save the planet, Masuda said, adding that the bra should not be washed or sunned on a rainy day to avoid damaging it.

Being eco-friendly is now fashionable in Japan, and the "Solar Energy Bra" follows the company's other green-themed undergarments that include a bra that turns into a reusable shopping bag and one that featured metal chopsticks to promote the use of reusable chopsticks.

"It is very comfortable and I can really feel involved in eco-friendly efforts as well," model Yuko Ishida said.

(Reporting by Takanori Isshiki; Writing by Yoko Kubota; editing by Miral Fahmy)

[DaFace]

I'd post the full list, but I think it's kind of fun forgetting what all the levels are. But I will tell you that less than -1700 gets you the "rep conspiracy" message, and over 100,000 gets you the "Kyle" message.

I think Kyle underestimated the power of rep inflation and the rep whoring for casino cash thread.

["Bob" Dobbs]

I've always wondered where the breaks are between levels... or even how many levels there are.

[DaFace]

I've always wondered where the breaks are between levels... or even how many levels there are.

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I keep thinking about revamping the system (since nearly every user who's been here for more than a year or two is an "icon"), but I'm not funny enough to do it right. Maybe I'll eventually get around to finding someone to mess with it.

[Calcountry]

I'd post the full list, but I think it's kind of fun forgetting what all the levels are. But I will tell you that less than -1700 gets you the "rep conspiracy" message, and over 100,000 gets you the "Kyle" message.

I think Kyle underestimated the power of rep inflation and the rep whoring for casino cash thread.Kyle must be advising President Bush.

[FAX]

Ah ... thanks, Mr. DaFace. I was wondering what happened to "icon" status. I thought "Kyle" status was some kind of punishment.

FAX

[Logical]

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I keep thinking about revamping the system (since nearly every user who's been here for more than a year or two is an "icon"), but I'm not funny enough to do it right. Maybe I'll eventually get around to finding someone to mess with it.

I suggest you hire Phobia I hear he will work for $500

[stlchiefs]

I suggest you hire Phobia I hear he will work for $500

Even less, just a mere promise to pay him $500.

[smittysbar]

It was posted in a thread a while back but I don't remember which one.

[Fairplay]

I suggest you hire Phobia I hear he will work for $500

Claythan thinks that is the tall dollars.

I bet the IRS is checking into his tax return as we speak.

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I keep thinking about revamping the system (since nearly every user who's been here for more than a year or two is an "icon"), but I'm not funny enough to do it right. Maybe I'll eventually get around to finding someone to mess with it.

So how long before Claythan hits the lowest?

[DaFace]

So how long before Claythan hits the lowest?

All things considered, he's not that far away from being in the green again. I artificially bailed out Midnight_Vulture to a certain extent in hopes that he will continue not being a complete and utter douche (he was at around -124k). Claythan is at a mere -24k, which is impressive considering his situation is the result of mod abuse rather than true neg rep.

[Adept Havelock]

So how long before Claythan hits the lowest?

I'm thinking Midnight Felcher might get there first.

[smittysbar]

All things considered, he's not that far away from being in the green again. I artificially bailed out Midnight_Vulture to a certain extent in hopes that he will continue not being a complete and utter douche (he was at around -124k). Claythan is at a mere -24k, which is impressive considering his situation is the result of mod abuse rather than true neg rep.

Why would you do that? He has done nothing but antagonize people, and the people gave him bad rep. Who gives a shit if he gets better or not he is a douche.

[DaFace]

Why would you do that? He has done nothing but antagonize people, and the people gave him bad rep. Who gives a shit if he gets better or not he is a douche.

Oh, he's still well into the red, so don't worry about that. However, if 20 or so of our most powerful rep givers decided to give him positive rep, he'd start approaching the green. I see a glimmer of potential that he could end up being less than a douchebag, so I figured I'd make it remotely possible that his rep could be repaired.

To put it into perspective, it would take approximately 250 positive reps from our most powerful rep givers to draw him out of the red as it was before. He took a pretty good beating!

[smittysbar]

as deserved.....I'm not sure of what glimmer of potential you saw, I stayed out of the crap but waisted lots of time reading the dip shit make dumb ass remark, time and time again. Hell at least Clayton is funny sometimes.

To each there own. You must be trying an intervention, lol

[DaFace]

as deserved.....I'm not sure of what glimmer of potential you saw, I stayed out of the crap but waisted lots of time reading the dip shit make dumb ass remark, time and time again. Hell at least Clayton is funny sometimes.

To each there own. You must be trying an intervention, lol

Eh, not saying it's gonna happen, but you never know. :)

[Logical]

All things considered, he's not that far away from being in the green again. I artificially bailed out Midnight_Vulture to a certain extent in hopes that he will continue not being a complete and utter douche (he was at around -124k). Claythan is at a mere -24k, which is impressive considering his situation is the result of mod abuse rather than true neg rep.Unfortunate, he has moved his douchedom to DC where less people will notice. Grrrr

[Frazod]

All things considered, he's not that far away from being in the green again. I artificially bailed out Midnight_Vulture to a certain extent in hopes that he will continue not being a complete and utter douche (he was at around -124k). Claythan is at a mere -24k, which is impressive considering his situation is the result of mod abuse rather than true neg rep.

If Ari's rep can be restored, why not Gochiefs? If amnesty can be granted to that dickbag, it seems only fair to give Clayton a pass as well.

[FAX]

If Ari's rep can be restored, why not Gochiefs? If amnesty can be granted to that dickbag, it seems only fair to give Clayton a pass as well.

Perhaps, in reality, Mr. MidLife_Crisis is actually .... ... ... MR. DAFACE!!!!

Ever think of that?

FAX

[DaFace]

If Ari's rep can be restored, why not Gochiefs? If amnesty can be granted to that dickbag, it seems only fair to give Clayton a pass as well.

The easy answer is that I was around when Ari's rep got sent to the basement, so I had a pretty good idea where it should have been. I'm more of a fan of temporary punishment in hopes that people learn their lesson than permanent punishment (i.e. forever doomed to wear the mark of shame that is a full red bar). After Ari had been punished for a month or so, I offered to put it back.

GoChiefs was bottomed out long before I became a mod around here. There's no log of changes to rep in the CP, so if I were to put GoChiefs back in the green, I'd have no idea how many points to give him.

That being said, he and I get along pretty well, so if it were ever that important to him, I'd probably put him back up in at least the "icon" level. I think he's come to enjoy the red dots to a certain extent, though.

Perhaps, in reality, Mr. MidLife_Crisis is actually .... ... ... MR. DAFACE!!!!

Ever think of that?

FAX

Ahh...you're onto me, Mr. FAX. You know how I do love my bikes and chicks.

[Bugeater]

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I keep thinking about revamping the system (since nearly every user who's been here for more than a year or two is an "icon"), but I'm not funny enough to do it right. Maybe I'll eventually get around to finding someone to mess with it.
Couldn't you just keep the same comments and assess different point values to them?

[DaFace]

Couldn't you just keep the same comments and assess different point values to them?

I could, but I'm afraid that all the "icons" will feel like they've been demoted or something. We're a whiny bunch around these parts.

I'm thinking I'll just have someone add a bunch of new categories for the 50k to 500k range and keep the rest the way it is. That, plus maybe a little formula tweaking to keep people moving up (or down) so quickly.

[Dartgod]

as deserved.....I'm not sure of what glimmer of potential you saw, I stayed out of the crap but waisted lots of time reading the dip shit make dumb ass remark, time and time again. Hell at least Clayton is funny sometimes.

To each there own. You must be trying an intervention, lol

Eh, not saying it's gonna happen, but you never know. :)
I remember when Gaz tried to reform some trolls on the KC Star board. It wasn't pretty.

[Stinger]

I could, but I'm afraid that all the "icons" will feel like they've been demoted or something. We're a whiny bunch around these parts.
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I say go ahead and do it. If not for anything else but the entainment value that it would bring. :evil:

This place is better if there is a little chaos ... beside it is the offseason people are going to bitch, complain, and whine no matter what.

[DaFace]

I remember when Gaz tried to reform some trolls on the KC Star board. It wasn't pretty.

I'm certainly not going to do give him thread starting privs back or anything. And if he continues being a douche, he'll continue to get neg repped into oblivion.

[Frazod]

The easy answer is that I was around when Ari's rep got sent to the basement, so I had a pretty good idea where it should have been. I'm more of a fan of temporary punishment in hopes that people learn their lesson than permanent punishment (i.e. forever doomed to wear the mark of shame that is a full red bar). After Ari had been punished for a month or so, I offered to put it back.

GoChiefs was bottomed out long before I became a mod around here. There's no log of changes to rep in the CP, so if I were to put GoChiefs back in the green, I'd have no idea how many points to give him.

That being said, he and I get along pretty well, so if it were ever that important to him, I'd probably put him back up in at least the "icon" level. I think he's come to enjoy the red dots to a certain extent, though.

Just reset him to zero.

[ChiTown]

Wow, a thread about rep. That's so Ill-Logical........................

[FAX]

I wonder about the fairosity of artificially rejuvenating a person's rep points. I mean, after they've been neg-repped to hell and gone by actual Planeteers In Good Standing, and all. It seems to run counter to all that Mr. Skip Towne has taught me about posting.

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[DaFace]

Just reset him to zero.

Response via IM:

lol no
i want to earn it
gained 75k in the last few mos

[DaFace]

I wonder about the fairosity of artificially rejuvenating a person's rep points. I mean, after they've been neg-repped to hell and gone by actual Planeteers In Good Standing, and all. It seems to run counter to all that Mr. Skip Towne has taught me about posting.

FAX

I see it as more of an manual minimum than anything. Ever played a card game where you can't have negative points (like Spades)? It's like that. Chances are you'll never win, but at least there's always a chance that you could become something less than a complete and utter loser.

[Frazod]

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lol no
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gained 75k in the last few mos

Whatever makes him happy. :thumb:

[RNR]

I see it as more of an manual minimum than anything. Ever played a card game where you can't have negative points (like Spades)? It's like that. Chances are you'll never win, but at least there's always a chance that you could become something less than a complete and utter loser.

pssst your are like a mod dude why aint you maxed?

[Bugeater]

pssst your are like a mod dude why aint you maxed?

There doesn't appear to be a maximum anymore.

[FAX]

I see it as more of an manual minimum than anything. Ever played a card game where you can't have negative points (like Spades)? It's like that. Chances are you'll never win, but at least there's always a chance that you could become something less than a complete and utter loser.

Oh, it's totally your call, Mr. DaFace. I don't question your decision, just the overall concept. Mr. Skip Towne taught me that some posters are just born bad and, as such, should receive neg rep in sufficient quantities to send them into a long-lasting state of complete and utter depression in the hopes they will eventually off themselves.

As for Mr. Midnight_Felcher, I hope your efforts to rehabilitate him work out, although I don't hold out much hope, to be honest.

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[Bugeater]

I don't know about anyone else, but I just can't picture Mr. FAX neg repping anyone. He's far too polite.

[FAX]

I don't know about anyone else, but I just can't picture Mr. FAX neg repping anyone. He's far too polite.

I don't think I ever have, Mr. GoBo. The closest I ever came was Mr. Rain Man's spider island poll. He almost took one right in the rep count, that day.

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[DaFace]

pssst your are like a mod dude why aint you maxed?

I refuse to artificially alter either my rep or my casino cash. What would be the fun in that?

And as GoBo said, there is no maximum as far as I can tell.

[RNR]

I refuse to artificially alter either my rep or my casino cash. What would be the fun in that?

And as GoBo said, there is no maximum as far as I can tell.

Now we are talking money how much for a million casino cash? shhhh!

[rambleonthruthefog]

I've always wondered where the breaks are between levels... or even how many levels there are.


or what the point is, or why anyone f'n cares.

[Braincase]

All I can tell you is that leaving me rep will secure your place in heaven in the afterlife.

OK, maybe not. But why chance it?

[Frazod]

All I can tell you is that leaving me rep will secure your place in heaven in the afterlife.

OK, maybe not. But why chance it?

Positive or negative? :evil:

[Logical]

Wow, a thread about rep. That's so Ill-Logical........................Just thought I would allow the new sheriff in town tell us about the new limits and messages.

[acesn8s]

I don't know about anyone else, but I just can't picture Mr. FAX neg repping anyone. He's far too polite.
He hasn't even neg repped his new found nemesis.:evil:

[Skip Towne]

He hasn't even neg repped his new found nemesis.:evil:

Who is his nemesis?

[Bugeater]

Who is his nemesis?
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=9066

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