Colts v Redskins game thread....yeah, i said it

[the Talking Can]

the offseason is over!!

[Bowser]

Can't believe they still wanted to air this, with Manning out and all.

[Coach]

Jason Taylor not playing as well.

Bowser, you know they'll still slobber on Manning's knob every f**king chance.

[the Talking Can]

Can't believe they still wanted to air this, with Manning out and all.

why you gotta hate on Kaiser Sorgi?

[Bowser]

Jason Taylor not playing as well.

Bowser, you know they'll still slobber on Manning's knob every f**king chance.


Manning is the new Favre!

[Bugeater]

I'm already sick of listening to John Madden.

[blueballs]

no official
offseason ending thread

[Bugeater]

OMG FAVRE UPDATE!!!!

[the Talking Can]

anyone think Campell is going to get over the hump as a qb?

[Bowser]

I'm already sick of listening to John Madden.



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[the Talking Can]

gb is going to let farve compete....lol, rodgers is fubared...

[Coach]

anyone think Campell is going to get over the hump as a qb?

I do. I like him as a QB, and I thought he showed some flashes of greatness, yet makes some 'WTF' moments.

Hopefilly the West Coast Offense will suit him well in Washington. Case in point, he did play a WCO in his Sr. year at Auburn, where he put up very good numbers.

[007]

And the Favre saga continues.

[Bowser]

anyone think Campell is going to get over the hump as a qb?

I think so. He's been in FIVE different offenses since he's been in the NFL. God forbid he gets comfortable in one for a few years.

[Bowser]

gb is going to let farve compete....lol, rodgers is fubared...

PUT 'ER IN THE VICE GRIP!

[Mecca]

Campbell wasn't that great in college so I'm gonna say no.

[alanm]

How does some little midget dweeb from Denver like Shefter get a sweet gig like he has. Who's dick did he suck anyway?

[Coach]

lol. nearly fooled them on the onside.

[the Talking Can]

onside kick!

dick move lol

[Mecca]

The Colts are playing this like, yea we don't really care.

[Rausch]

Preseason onside kick to start the game?

WTF?

[007]

TD!!!

[Coach]

Campbell wasn't that great in college so I'm gonna say no.

Disagree. He had rough go at his first 3 years at Auburn, but then he turned it around in his Sr. year.

He'll be a solid QB for Washington.

[the Talking Can]

the colts will be 0-16!


who is washington's OC now?

[alanm]

The Colts are playing this like, yea we don't really care.
At least not til the 3rd game.

[beer bacon]

the colts will be 0-16!


who is washington's OC now?

Non.

[Bugeater]

Just in case anyone hasn't heard yet, Favre is headed back to Green Bay.

[007]

Oh look. It's Brett Favre's plan. Good God man.

[the Talking Can]

unleash hicks

[Coach]

the colts will be 0-16!


who is washington's OC now?

Sherman Smith. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Smith)

[Mecca]

Jim Sorgi is shitting on the Redskins.

[chiefs1111]

Nice catch by Dallas Clark there

[Coach]

Jesus, Sorgi almost got his TE killed by the S.

[teedubya]

Dallas Clark is Tony Gonzalezesque

[chiefs1111]

Who needs Peyton Manning when you got Jim Sorgi, lol

[the Talking Can]

Sherman Smith. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Smith)

danka

[teedubya]

During commercials, fellas, I recommend Fox Sports... Hooters Bikini competition

[Coach]

Rob Jackson, from Kansas State, for the sack.

[alanm]

During commercials, fellas, I recommend Fox Sports... Hooters Bikini competition
Ooh, ooh, ooh.:thumb:

[chiefs1111]

Damn,Addai already got dinged up lol

[chiefs1111]

During commercials, fellas, I recommend Fox Sports... Hooters Bikini competition

Thanks for the heads up,lol

[Coach]

Wonder if Sorgi is the next Matt Schuab?

[Coach]

And a sure INT dropped.....

[chiefs1111]

Sorgi should just stick to throwing to his TE's

[the Talking Can]

taylor is a guido

[Coach]

The drive dies, and Colts settle for a FG.

7-3.

[chiefs1111]

Wonder if Sorgi is the next Matt Schuab?

I don't know about that,he didn't look very good we he came in against the Titans last year...

[chiefs1111]

The drive dies, and Colts settle for a FG.

7-3.

It's a shootout!

[beer bacon]

Rob Jackson, from Kansas State, for the sack.

I noticed that Washington and Indy both have multiple K-Staters on their rosters.

[the Talking Can]

the colts lbs are who??

never heard of them...

[chiefs1111]

Campbell looks good so far....

[Mecca]

It's Quinn Gray, in the words of Gus Johnson....HAHA

[chiefs1111]

Damn,that was a quick 1st Q

[banyon]

They only played Sorgi one series? He could probably use the snaps.

[rad]

Check out T0dd...

[chiefs1111]

Todd freaking Collins is in

[chiefs1111]

Emmit Thomas will be interview coming up next

[Coach]

Emmitt Thomas will be in the booth with Madden and Michaels.

[Tribal Warfare]

Emmitt Thomas is going to be interviewed

[StcChief]

Emiitt Thomas in Booth with Al/John after ad.

[chiefs1111]

Ugly snap

[Coach]

lol. Bad snap = safety.

[Friendo]

how f***ing cool was that?:clap:

[Tribal Warfare]

How in the hell did Sammie Parker got a hold of Emmitt Thomas' s jersey number?

[007]

There is Tiny's commercial.

[Coach]

0dd T0dd gets nailed.

[Coach]

Flag.

Holding on the return.

[chiefs1111]

Touchdown Colts!

[banyon]

It's still ridiculous that Tippet is in and DT is out.

[chiefs1111]

It's still ridiculous that Tippet is in and DT is out.

Yeah I don't understand it either.....

[Bowser]

It's still ridiculous that Tippet is in and DT is out.

They need to get someone else other than Gretz to make the pitch for DT.

Go line up John Elway, Steve Young, Warren Moon, and Troy Aikman, and ask THEM if they think DT is HoF worthy.

[L.A. Chieffan]

I'm happy for Emmitt Thomas but what about Johnny Robinson?

[tk13]

They need to get someone else other than Gretz to make the pitch for DT.

Go line up John Elway, Steve Young, Warren Moon, and Troy Aikman, and ask THEM if they think DT is HoF worthy.
They've done that. They did a letter writing campaign that had all kinds of HOF'ers... Elway, Jim Kelly, etc... even Shanahan wrote a letter saying DT should be in. That was the first year he was eligible too, and it didn't work.

[Mecca]

I'll give you 3 reasons DT isn't in the HOF...

1. He didn't win a bowl, in football being on a great team will get you in easier than being a great player, notice all the Steelers that are in and shit like that.

2. He played in KC if he had play on the east coast he'd likely be in..

3. He's dead, it hurts that he can't campaign for himself. Harry Carson essentially bitched his way in.

[chiefs1111]

Mike Hart looks pretty good here

[chiefs1111]

I'll give you 3 reasons DT isn't in the HOF...

1. He didn't win a bowl, in football being on a great team will get you in easier than being a great player, notice all the Steelers that are in and shit like that.

2. He played in KC if he had play on the east coast he'd likely be in..

3. He's dead, it hurts that he can't campaign for himself. Harry Carson essentially bitched his way in.

Also there is the argument that he was a "pass rush" specialist,that he didn't play the run well,which i think is a load of bull

[Sure-Oz]

my gf just went nuts seeing adam crossett kicking a fg, she has known him since he was a kid and her parents live down the street from his parents. i had to tel her hes likely to get cut

[chiefs1111]

Colt freaking Brennan is in

[Bowser]

They've done that. They did a letter writing campaign that had all kinds of HOF'ers... Elway, Jim Kelly, etc... even Shanahan wrote a letter saying DT should be in. That was the first year he was eligible too, and it didn't work.

Interesting. I didn't realize that. His abscence from the hall makes even less sense to me now.

If Mecca is right about the reasons he listed, there shouldn't even be a HoF, imnsho. Derrick was a game changer, period. Yes, there were spots where he was invisible, but Jerry Rice dropped some sure TD catches, too.

I would love to see Gretz's presentation to the voters. I think it's been reported that he never changes it from year-to-year.

[Sure-Oz]

Brennan TD

[Spott]

Brennan looked pretty good on his first drive.

[milkman]

Colt freaking Brennan is in

Looked pretty good there, didn't he?

[Mecca]

Where is Holmez he hates Brennan.

[morphius]

That was a real nice TD pass

[chiefs1111]

Looked pretty good there, didn't he?

Yeah,Todd Collin's better watch out....

[milkman]

Interesting. I didn't realize that. His abscence from the hall makes even less sense to me now.

If Mecca is right about the reasons he listed, there shouldn't even be a HoF, imnsho. Derrick was a game changer, period. Yes, there were spots where he was invisible, but Jerry Rice dropped some sure TD catches, too.

I would love to see Gretz's presentation to the voters. I think it's been reported that he never changes it from year-to-year.

DT wasn't simply a game changer, he was a guy that changed the culture of this organization singlehandedly.

[Sure-Oz]

He single handedly destroyed Ryan Leafs career on that rainy game

[Bowser]

He single handedly destroyed Ryan Leafs career on that rainy game

And Marinovich's.

[Mecca]

Interesting. I didn't realize that. His abscence from the hall makes even less sense to me now.

If Mecca is right about the reasons he listed, there shouldn't even be a HoF, imnsho. Derrick was a game changer, period. Yes, there were spots where he was invisible, but Jerry Rice dropped some sure TD catches, too.

I would love to see Gretz's presentation to the voters. I think it's been reported that he never changes it from year-to-year.

The NFL HOF has always rewarded good players on great teams more than great players on bad-good teams...

A good player from a 3 or 4 time superbowl winner will get in before a great player on a team that never won, look at Lynn Swann his numbers are pedestrian.

[chiefs1111]

Finally,the Hefty Lefty is in...

[tk13]

Interesting. I didn't realize that. His abscence from the hall makes even less sense to me now.

If Mecca is right about the reasons he listed, there shouldn't even be a HoF, imnsho. Derrick was a game changer, period. Yes, there were spots where he was invisible, but Jerry Rice dropped some sure TD catches, too.

I would love to see Gretz's presentation to the voters. I think it's been reported that he never changes it from year-to-year.
You could find it if you look hard enough, I don't know where it is. There was a big controversy the first year he didn't get in, because Dr. Z of SI said the presenter hurt DT's chances... so Gretz took a lot of heat, and posted his entire presentation on the Chiefs website, had a couple columns about it, etc. Plus listed off all the people who participated in the letter campaign, it was an impressive list.

[chiefs1111]

nice scramble there

[tk13]

Here we go....

The Chiefs conducted an active letter-writing campaign on Thomas' behalf, including letters from several Hall of Famers and current coaches such as Bill Walsh, Marv Levy, Bill Cowher, Marty Schottenheimer, Mike Shanahan, John Elway, Jim Kelly, Jackie Slater, Marcus Allen and Warren Moon, said Peterson. Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt also sent letters to the voters.

[Bowser]

The NFL HOF has always rewarded good players on great teams more than great players on bad-good teams...

A good player from a 3 or 4 time superbowl winner will get in before a great player on a team that never won, look at Lynn Swann his numbers are pedestrian.

Which is a crock, because the Hall is set up to reward individual players for their achievments.

I know this argument has been used more than a cheap hooker in Tijuana, but how many rings did Marino win? Or Andre Tippet, for that matter?

[Sure-Oz]

Here we go....

Makes you wonder if he'll get snubbed for a long time like Otis Taylor?

[Mecca]

And right now what hurts is the NFL is on this crusade to put all these old guys in, like Fred Dean.

Cris Carter was eligible this year and didn't get in, you wanna explain to me how that makes sense?

[Bowser]

Here we go....

Wow. I don't know what to say about it. I know I'm a Chiefs fan, but it really seems like a no brainer here.

[Mecca]

Colt Brennan shows why people said he was accurate.

[chiefs1111]

And right now what hurts is the NFL is on this crusade to put all these old guys in, like Fred Dean.

Cris Carter was eligible this year and didn't get in, you wanna explain to me how that makes sense?

I thought he should of got in over Irvin last year.....

[Mecca]

I thought he should of got in over Irvin last year.....

Irvin deserves to be in too, but it's kind of annoying to see guys like Fred Dean going in instead of some of these other guys.

Next year a ton of guys are eligible so DT probably won't get in......watch Darren Woodson get in.

[chiefs1111]

Brennan is tearing it up........

[milkman]

Brennan is tearing it up........

He sure looks like a keeper.

[chiefs1111]

Irvin deserves to be in too, but it's kind of annoying to see guys like Fred Dean going in instead of some of these other guys.

Next year a ton of guys are eligible so DT probably won't get in......watch Darren Woodson get in.

Do you think Darren Woodson deserves to get in?? I mean, he was good in his day but I don't know if he was that good....

[Mecca]

He sure looks like a keeper.

Yea but we got Brodie Croyle, we couldn't draft Brennan in the 6th man we have to have Kevin Robinson!

[Mecca]

Do you think Darren Woodson deserves to get in?? I mean, he was good in his day but I don't know if he was that good....

No I don't think he was HOF good but guess what he was a member of every one of the high profile Cowboy bowl teams....he was on 3 bowl winners.

[Bowser]

No I don't think he was HOF good but guess what he was a member of every one of the high profile Cowboy bowl teams....he was on 3 bowl winners.

AND he works at ESPN now. I'm not a huge NFL historian, but I wouldn't be shocked to learn that all those years on Monday Night Football helped Dan Dierdorf get into the Hall.

[Mecca]

Shannon Sharpe becomes eligible next year also...

[chiefs1111]

Fred Dean likes the dirt......

[Bowser]

Shannon Sharpe becomes eligible next year also...

It's going to be brutal listening to that speech.

[splatbass]

Brennan is tearing it up........

I told people that Colt had potential as an NFL QB and all the naysayers here told me I was crazy. He's looking real good tonight.

[chiefs1111]

AND he works at ESPN now. I'm not a huge NFL historian, but I wouldn't be shocked to learn that all those years on Monday Night Football helped Dan Dierdorf get into the Hall.

Dierdorf is one of the worst color guys ive ever heard,I can't stand when I have to listen to him do games.... Me and my dad always refer to him as "Dierdork"

[Mecca]

Bruce Smith and Rod Woodson also become eligible....

Guess what DT likely isn't getting in when you factor in Cris Carter from last year and the likely 2 guys from 30 years ago that will get in.

[Mecca]

I told people that Colt had potential as an NFL QB and all the naysayers here told me I was crazy. He's looking real good tonight.

Hey I defended him...

[chiefs1111]

It's going to be brutal listening to that speech.

I don't even want to think about it,lol

[milkman]

Dierdorf is one of the worst color guys ive ever heard,I can't stand when I have to listen to him do games.... Me and my dad always refer to him as "Dierdork"

Wow, I bet you are the only two clever enough to come up with that!

[Sure-Oz]

brennan with another TD pass damn

[chiefs1111]

Nice play by Brennan ,TD Redskins.

[Mecca]

I don't even want to think about it,lol

This is what you're looking at...

Bruce Smith, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Woodson........they're locks,

Cris Carter likely gets in, Darren Woodson possibly gets in and then you factor in the guys from 30 years ago...

Where is there a spot for DT?

[Hammock Parties]

Colt Brennan is so much better than Brodie Croyle

Jackass.

[chiefs1111]

Wow, I bet you are the only two clever enough to come up with that!

Damn straight! lol

[Mecca]

Jackass.

That isn't exactly what I said....however I think Brennan's personality and it factor may overcome what people perceived as his limitations.

[splatbass]

Hey I defended him...

I know, you were one of the few.

[milkman]

I got an idea.

Let's trade our 1st round pick next year for Colt Brennan.

I mean he does look pretty damn good against scrubs.

[chiefs1111]

This is what you're looking at...

Bruce Smith, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Woodson........they're locks,

Cris Carter likely gets in, Darren Woodson possibly gets in and then you factor in the guys from 30 years ago...

Where is there a spot for DT?

Yeah,he has no chance next year... I think he will get in at some point but I think it going to be a while

[Mecca]

I got an idea.

Let's trade our 1st round pick next year for Colt Brennan.

I mean he does look pretty damn good against scrubs.

Well he probably would have been worth a 6th round pick more than a return man that right now has sat around and not done anything.

Just sayin I'd rather have Brennan than Huard or Thigpen.

[chiefs1111]

Garcon looks like a good WR for the colts tonight....

[Hammock Parties]

The hefty lefty!

[milkman]

Well he probably would have been worth a 6th round pick more than a return man that right now has sat around and not done anything.

Just sayin I'd rather have Brennan than Huard or Thigpen.

I agree.

I'm just sayin', let's not get to carried away here.

He's played a nice game against scrubs in the very first preseason game.

[pr_capone]

I got absolutely flamed for wanting Brennan here... and now that he seems to be doing well in a pre-season games we get people coming out of the shed saying they wish we would have picked him up.

*sigh*

[chiefs1111]

Well he probably would have been worth a 6th round pick more than a return man that right now has sat around and not done anything.

Just sayin I'd rather have Brennan than Huard or Thigpen.

Does anyone know how long Robinson is going to be out?

[splatbass]

I agree.

I'm just sayin', let's not get to carried away here.

He's played a nice game against scrubs in the very first preseason game.

His side of the ball is all scrubs too, it's not like he's guiding the first team against scrubs.

[Mecca]

I agree.

I'm just sayin', let's not get to carried away here.

He's played a nice game against scrubs in the very first preseason game.

Problem is I'm not sure any of our guys are going to look that good against scrubs or non scrubs...

That's probably my only critique of the Chiefs draft 2 really good college QB's fell to the 6th round and we took a returner then went and signed a vet guy who is nothing more than a returner..

Probably should have taken one of those QB's.

[Mecca]

I got absolutely flamed for wanting Brennan here... and now that he seems to be doing well in a pre-season games we get people coming out of the shed saying they wish we would have picked him up.

*sigh*

Don't look at me, I always said I liked the guy....

[chiefs1111]

This mason guy running with the ball looks good for the skins....

[milkman]

Problem is I'm not sure any of our guys are going to look that good against scrubs or non scrubs...

That's probably my only critique of the Chiefs draft 2 really good college QB's fell to the 6th round and we took a returner then went and signed a vet guy who is nothing more than a returner..

Probably should have taken one of those QB's.

We probably should have.

I never commented on Brennan cause I hadn't really seen much of him.

But all I'm saying is that if you really liked him, and you are patting yourself on the back because of this performance, then you getting ahead of yourself.

[Skip Towne]

Did anybody see the NFL Network's 10 best players not in the HOF today? Jerry Kramer was #1 and DT was #2. Cris Carter was on down the list somewhere.

[chiefs1111]

Did anybodysee the NFL Network's 10 best players not in the HOF today? Jerry Kramer was #1 and DT was #2.

Yeah, im surprised Ricky Waters was on that list....

[JBucc]

Matterrible...holy shit. Didn't even know that dude signed with a team.

[alanm]

Redskin scrubs starting to kick the shit out of the Colt scrubs.

[milkman]

I'll say this, for those who think we should have persued Lorenzen.

He looks like crap.

[alanm]

Hey I defended him...
No you didn't. You bagged on him every chance you got. :shake:

[Chiefnj2]

No you didn't. You bagged on him every chance you got. :shake:

Mecca 4/22/08
"I believe those are the only 2 QB's worth a damn in the draft..."

Talking about Ryan and Brohm.

[Coach]

No you didn't. You bagged on him every chance you got. :shake:

Incorrect.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4478759&postcount=5

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4552856&postcount=27

Brennan is a good QB, just has questions on his arm strength, which is justified at that time.

[splatbass]

Brennan is a good QB, just has questions on his arm strength, which is justified at that time.

Really? Not only did his arm strength look good tonight, but it looked good at UH. He threw a lot of long passes there. The main criticism was that he was a system QB, and that he always played out of the shotgun. He looked fine under center tonight, so I don't think that will be a problem for him.

[Skip Towne]

Yeah, im surprised Ricky Waters was on that list....

I was too.

[Coach]

Really? Not only did his arm strength look good tonight, but it looked good at UH. He threw a lot of long passes there. The main criticism was that he was a system QB, and that he always played out of the shotgun. He looked fine under center tonight, so I don't think that will be a problem for him.

When I said "Justified at the time" It was during the Senior Bowl, which scouts were the ones that brought it up. Even I thought at times, looked a little iffy, but at the same time, it can be corrected by proper footwork. Zorn was right on one thing that to build up a QB, one has to start at their feet.

Brennan's footwork was for the most part, pretty good. Like that one throw to the receiver at the end zone after leaving the pocket to avoid the rush, where he stopped, planted, and followed through right into the WR's number.

That was a beauty. And the best thing for both Washington and Brennan, they both DO have the time to develop him.

[alanm]

Incorrect.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4478759&postcount=5

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4552856&postcount=27

Brennan is a good QB, just has questions on his arm strength, which is justified at that time.
Sorry then Mecca.
Then who am I confusing him with. Someone here just relished Brennans beat down in his Bowl game. In fact quite a few ragged on him all last year.

[alanm]

Really? Not only did his arm strength look good tonight, but it looked good at UH. He threw a lot of long passes there. The main criticism was that he was a system QB, and that he always played out of the shotgun. He looked fine under center tonight, so I don't think that will be a problem for him.
They did mention his proclivity to move the pocket. Something Zorn is going to have to rein in if he gets spooked easy and won't step up.

[Coach]

Sorry then Mecca.
Then who am I confusing him with. Someone here just relished Brennans beat down in his Bowl game. In fact quite a few ragged on him all last year.

Holmezz

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4478775&postcount=9

[KCrockaholic]

great game...our cousin's won (the skins)

[ilovemichaelsettle]

well it was a kick ass game even though manning was not in it, i didnt think that the skins would win, my loss in thoughts, but i was glad that the chiefs cousins won! it was one of the best pre season games that i have seen, all the rookies were pretty good, like hart, he was awesome to watch, very intertaining, he ran four times for 53 yards. it was a very entertaining game