Keeper decision: Steven Jax or Brian Westbrook

[The Bad Guy]

I'm in a one-player keeper league. You can keep the same player for as long as you would like.

My draft is next week and I'm torn on who to keep.

Westbrook is a stud, as is Jackson, but I'm undecided.

Westy is 28, with an injury history

Jax is 25, with some injury history, but nothing like Westbrook.

If you were in my boat, who do you keep?

[Mecca]

Jackson is holding out I figure you know that.....and it's getting pretty ugly, Westbrook is alot safer.

[The Bad Guy]

Jackson is holding out I figure you know that.....and it's getting pretty ugly, Westbrook is alot safer.

I did know that. I'm not too concerned with that. He's not making a fortune under that rookie deal so he'll have to play eventually.

I am leaning toward Westbrook, but wanted to solicit some opinions.

[Mecca]

I did know that. I'm not too concerned with that. He's not making a fortune under that rookie deal so he'll have to play eventually.

I am leaning toward Westbrook, but wanted to solicit some opinions.

The Rams told him they wouldn't negotiate with a player not at camp, then he said he wasn't showing up without a contract...

He apparently told them he'd sit till week 8 and suit up for the last 8 games to get his year in and hit FA. If they take a hardline stance with him it won't be a pretty year.

[ChiefsCountry]

I have had both guys, its a tough call - if Jackson is healthy and gets his contract taken care of I would go with him but Westbrook is a safe bet.

[dorseybowe]

Jackson seems primed this year, and Westbrook is in a brutal division. My choice is Jackson.

[Mecca]

Jackson seems primed this year, and Westbrook is in a brutal division. My choice is Jackson.

What if Jackson continues to hold out? It is a concern....he also played very little last preseason and opened the year very poorly..

This team is also dependant on Orlando Pace who has become injury prone and without him the rest of their offense goes right in the shitter.

[The Bad Guy]

Jackson seems primed this year, and Westbrook is in a brutal division. My choice is Jackson.

Brutal how?

Westbrook has done very well against the NFC East.

[Valiant]

I'm in a one-player keeper league. You can keep the same player for as long as you would like.

My draft is next week and I'm torn on who to keep.

Westbrook is a stud, as is Jackson, but I'm undecided.

Westy is 28, with an injury history

Jax is 25, with some injury history, but nothing like Westbrook.

If you were in my boat, who do you keep?

What is your pick rank??

[Valiant]

Also is it ppr league???

[The Bad Guy]

What is your pick rank??

Won't be known until right before the draft. However, I have to have my keeper in the night before.

Whatever one I don't keep, will be the top pick in the draft.

[The Bad Guy]

Also is it ppr league???

.5 ppr.

[Valiant]

Won't be known until right before the draft. However, I have to have my keeper in the night before.

Whatever one I don't keep, will be the top pick in the draft.

What??? Does it not matter who wins the league?? If not that is weird..

[Valiant]

Well this early and me thinking Jackson will not have a huge year with the Rams sucking imp.. I would go with Westbrook.. Especially since Westbrook should get 70 catches..


And then bitch at the league for not having reverse drafting for the leagues previous results..

[dorseybowe]

The NFC West is the weakest division in football. Jackson can slice through those teams like bread. On the other hand, Westbrook plays Dallas, New York, and Washington. All teams with effective to dominating run defenses.

Westbrook's numbers don't compare to Jackson's monster 2006 campaign. Jackson had a strong finish at the end of 2007, and the report out of STL is OC Saunders is utilizing Jackson more than ever.

[UteChief]

I'd stick with Jackson. Not trying to disagree with anyone but when was the last time someone sat out until week 8 because of their contract? Westbrook always seems to be injured.

[CosmicPal]

Westbrook just signed a major contract, so you may want to consider that. Some players lose their drive after a big contract signing.

The other thing to look at is their opponents. St. Louis is likely to have an easier schedule than Philly and may even play in a weaker division. Look at the players schedule and see which teams they are playing- one might be playing against a lot of teams who are weaker against the run.

[Valiant]

The NFC West is the weakest division in football. Jackson can slice through those teams like bread. On the other hand, Westbrook plays Dallas, New York, and Washington. All teams with effective to dominating run defenses.

Westbrook's numbers don't compare to Jackson's monster 2006 campaign. Jackson had a strong finish at the end of 2007, and the report out of STL is OC Saunders is utilizing Jackson more than ever.

This is true, but it depends on Jackson makes the whole season, from holdout to injury.. He has only made one full season.. And I just don't think much of the Rams this year.. Something about the team is missing for success imo..

[Chief Chief]

Well, for one thing, their fans are missing on gamedays.

But seriously: Keep Jackson.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I would Keep Westbrook, i heard the jackson holdout is getting pretty bad. I heard he may not even play this year

[Mecca]

Westbrook just signed a major contract, so you may want to consider that. Some players lose their drive after a big contract signing.

The other thing to look at is their opponents. St. Louis is likely to have an easier schedule than Philly and may even play in a weaker division. Look at the players schedule and see which teams they are playing- one might be playing against a lot of teams who are weaker against the run.

If Jackson plays he will also have just gotten a contract likely bigger than Westbrooks...

[The Bad Guy]

What??? Does it not matter who wins the league?? If not that is weird..

No it doesn't matter who wins the league.

I avoid doing that with leagues to avoid people from tanking at the end and selling off good players for draft position.

If this was a multiple player keeper league, then yes, the draft order would be set from the previous year.

But one player isn't giving anyone an advantage.

[Shaid]

I's say Westbrook, especially if you're a PPR league. He catches a lot of balls.

[CosmicPal]

If Jackson plays he will also have just gotten a contract likely bigger than Westbrooks...

That's true. I did overlook that.

[The Bad Guy]

The NFC West is the weakest division in football. Jackson can slice through those teams like bread. On the other hand, Westbrook plays Dallas, New York, and Washington. All teams with effective to dominating run defenses.

Westbrook's numbers don't compare to Jackson's monster 2006 campaign. Jackson had a strong finish at the end of 2007, and the report out of STL is OC Saunders is utilizing Jackson more than ever.

How can he utilize a guy who won't report to camp?

Westbrook has played against those defenses for years, and tore them up last year.

This decision will likely come down to the very last minute Sunday. It's a good position to be in.

[Mecca]

In my keeper I get to keep 2 and have Tomlinson and Peterson....I lost with them last year thanks to LT being up and down and Peterson getting hurt.

[The Bad Guy]

In my keeper I get to keep 2 and have Tomlinson and Peterson....I lost with them last year thanks to LT being up and down and Peterson getting hurt.

Well that pretty much trumps any combination I had.

A few years ago, I had LJ and LT when LJ had 21 TDs.

[Rausch]

Well that pretty much trumps any combination I had.

A few years ago, I had LJ and LT when LJ had 21 TDs.

ALWAYS draft 2 rookies for every established starter. A HB's greatest production is in his first 5-6 years anyway.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I'm kind of in a similar situation as The Bad Guy, except it's not a keeper issue.

I have the third pick in my draft. We all know LT will go one, AP will go two, but who do I pick at three? The two I'm contemplating are Westbrook and Jackson.

[dorseybowe]

How can he utilize a guy who won't report to camp?

Westbrook has played against those defenses for years, and tore them up last year.

This decision will likely come down to the very last minute Sunday. It's a good position to be in.
Westbrook is undoubtedly the more consistent option. Barring the holdout, the potential of Jackson for 2008 outweighs the risk. People like to think of Westbrook as a back who makes a lot of catches out the backfield, but two years ago, Jackson caught ninety balls. You'll be OK with either.

[Rausch]

I'm kind of in a similar situation as The Bad Guy, except it's not a keeper issue.

I have the third pick in my draft. We all know LT will go one, AP will go two, but who do I pick at three? The two I'm contemplating are Westbrook and Jackson.

My natural response would be that there's a huge gap after than and you should go QB.

Problem is most n00b FFL owners keep running leagues that put the SB in week 17 (PAY THE **** ATTENTION AND QUIT DOING THAT!1!:cuss: )

So drafting them means they'll (Brady, Manning, etc) be useless once you hit the SB.

With Harrison hitting the wall there's really only two lock fantasy WR's:

TO
MOSS.

Who else is a lock week to week?

[Rausch]

Westbrook is undoubtedly the more consistent option. Barring the holdout, the potential of Jackson for 2008 outweighs the risk. People like to think of Westbrook as a back who makes a lot of catches out the backfield, but two years ago, Jackson caught ninety balls. You'll be OK with either.

Westbrook = Fred Taylor.

He's injured more than he's not. Sure, he'll finally put up 1 or 2 years of decent fantasy numbers but I sure as hell wouldn't spend pick 1-8 in the 1st on him.

[dorseybowe]

I hate that shit, too, Rausch. The league that I created last year had no ****ing playoffs. Best record wins. Simple. No dicking around with teams resting starters and all that bullshit.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

My natural response would be that there's a huge gap after than and you should go QB.

Problem is most n00b FFL owners keep running leagues that put the SB in week 17 (PAY THE **** ATTENTION AND QUIT DOING THAT!1!:cuss: )

So drafting them means they'll (Brady, Manning, etc) be useless once you hit the SB.

With Harrison hitting the wall there's really only two lock fantasy WR's:

TO
MOSS.

Who else is a lock week to week?

So I should probably go with Brady then?

[ChiefsCountry]

I'm kind of in a similar situation as The Bad Guy, except it's not a keeper issue.

I have the third pick in my draft. We all know LT will go one, AP will go two, but who do I pick at three? The two I'm contemplating are Westbrook and Jackson.

I had pick #4, and Jackson went 3rd. I took Addai over Westbrook.

[wutamess]

I'd go with SJ. He's going to be good longer than WB will be. Something keeps telling me that WB is getting older really fast. Might want to look into that. Plus Wb is ALWAYS hurt it seems like. I've never had him on my FFL teams so I may be talking out of my ass.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I had pick #4, and Jackson went 3rd. I took Addai over Westbrook.

So I should go with Addai? Should I even consider Brady?

[Rausch]

So I should probably go with Brady then?

Only if you're in a FFL with me and you have no clue how to draft a HB stable...

[Rausch]

So I should go with Addai? Should I even consider Brady?

I think the rags hype him (Addai) over his worth.

He's no more than a no 2 (and by 2 I mean he's 3 deep.)

Yes draft Brady, but know he won't be helping you in your SB game. If you draft a brady you must handcuf him with a Garcia/Breese/Bulger type that MUST play week 17.

To me a guy like Palmer has more value because odds are he's playing a full game week 17...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Only if you're in a FFL with me and you have no clue how to draft a HB stable...

lol ughhhh

no help BRAD!!! haha jk

Brady is tempting. I mean, hell, he'd probably be more reliable than a lot of the RBs after LT and AP. He had 50 freaking td passes lol

[Rausch]

lol ughhhh

no help BRAD!!! haha jk

Brady is tempting. I mean, hell, he'd probably be more reliable than a lot of the RBs after LT and AP. He had 50 freaking td passes lol

Absolutely.

IF I pick 4 (round 1) I take Brady/Manning.

But you absolutely have to go QB in or around round 4 as well. There's almost no chance those guys start come week 17. The QB strong approach gives you trade leverage to up your HB's or protect yourself come SB time...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Absolutely.

IF I pick 4 (round 1) I take Brady/Manning.

But you absolutely have to go QB in or around round 4 as well. There's almost no chance those guys start come week 17. The QB strong approach gives you trade leverage to up your HB's or protect yourself come SB time...

Sweet deal thanks. Who should I draft in round two or the RBs?

[Rausch]

Sweet deal thanks. Who should I draft in round two or the RBs?

If you go QB in round 1 you have to believe you know something about the HB's others dont'.

You go QB round 1 you're almost locked to WR due to how many pts the HB's score. You need that double up on TD's if possible.

Also depends on keeper or 1 year league. Yearly draft I go for the younger and established guys. And I'll bet a stud like Barber (Dallas) or ATL's new HB fall.

[DaKCMan AP]

I'd keep Westy

[Rausch]

I'd keep Westy

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[DaKCMan AP]

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no crocs?

[The Bad Guy]

Well, I've made up my mind.

Westbrook it is.