Darrell Arthur's HS grades deemed legitimate

[Lzen]

Suck it, haters


http://www2.kusports.com/news/2008/aug/10/arthurs_prep_coach_thankful/

Arthur’s prep coach ‘thankful’

By Gary Bedore (http://www2.kusports.com/staff/gary_bedore/) (Contact (http://www2.kusports.com/staff/gary_bedore/contact/))
Posted Sunday, August 10, 2008
Dallas South Oak Cliff High basketball coach James Mays wasn’t surprised the high school grades of Darrell Arthur were deemed legitimate following a Dallas Independent School District investigation.
“I knew all along there was no wrongdoing. I’m just thankful it’s over. Our school district recognizes we did no wrong,” Mays said Saturday.
On Thursday, the DISD issued a press release indicating there was no impropriety as related to alleged grade changes involving former Kansas University forward Arthur during the 2004-05 school year.
“This is bittersweet. I’m happy he’s vindicated, but not that he had to go through this, that anybody would have to go through this,” Mays said.
Mays said Arthur is planning on taking legal action against the South Oak Cliff teacher who alleged that an Arthur math grade was changed to keep the player eligible. Mays said the suit also could include a Dallas TV station that aired the report.
“I know Darrell will do it (sue) for sure. It was a matter of getting the (NBA) Draft out of the way. Lawyers will do what they do,” Mays said. “We will pursue legal matters,” he added, indicating he also likely will file a lawsuit against those who allegedly discussed Arthur’s grades publicly and mentioned Mays as possibly having a part in the alleged grade changing.
“It’s against federal law to release somebody’s grades. What they will sue for is their grades and transcripts were made public. That is cut-and-dried regarding privacy laws being broken,” Mays added.

[crazycoffey]

lack of proof does not equal lack of guilt....
just saying.

[Lzen]

lack of proof does not equal lack of guilt....
just saying.

Last I checked you were still innocent until proven guilty in this country. I would think you, as a police officer, would know that.

[Skip Towne]

He should sue all the MUrons as well.

[RibKing67]

I am glad to hear it. It seems so many times that noone hears about this kind of thing untill someone gets to be successfull. Then all the haters come out of the woodwork to discredit them and get their 15 min of fame.

[Lzen]

I said when the story first came out that it seemed really fishy. I still believe that. Why wait until after the team won a national title and the dude is projected to enter the NBA draft as a lottery pick (yeah, I know he didn't end up being a lotter pick)? Sounded to me like somebody was looking for a payday and somebody was looking to break a huge story. Who cares if innocent people get smeared in the process. I hope Arthur and Mays sue the pants off those jackholes.

[jidar]

at least he didnt pose in gay porn

[Demonpenz]

Some of those officials down there just got paid off.

[crazycoffey]

Last I checked you were still innocent until proven guilty in this country. I would think you, as a police officer, would know that.

Police officers gather evidence/suspects to build cases in criminal matters. They don't PROVE anyone guilty (particularly not in a civil case), that's done in a court of law. You must watch too many CSI shows.....

My first post was done only out of an observation point of view anyway.

[gblowfish]

Some of those officials down there just got paid off.
Just took awhile to raise the scratch from the donors...

[little jacob]

i'm glad it didn't take an investigation to determine whether or not my grades were legit...

[Ultra Peanut]

MY SECOND-FAVORITE GRIZZLIES FORWARD IS EXONERATED

still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you still kind of hate you oh god darrell i thought we were friends

Last I checked you were still innocent until proven guilty in this country. I would think you, as a police officer, would know that.That's actually just the official position of judge and jury. Not to promote a witch hunt or anything, because it's pretty clear that this is all a bunch of nothing.

[crazycoffey]

Some of those officials down there just got paid off.

hmmm, intersting perspective. How dare you think that someone had to be paid off, the kid is obviouly innocent because he went to KU.
[/tongue in cheek]

:evil:

[Demonpenz]

He attempted to pay me off too, but I have my morals and standards set way too high to be swayed by 50 bags of funyons

[Lzen]

Police officers gather evidence/suspects to build cases in criminal matters. They don't PROVE anyone guilty (particularly not in a civil case), that's done in a court of law. You must watch too many CSI shows.....

My first post was done only out of an observation point of view anyway.

Lol, I know what police officers do. I would think with as much as they are involved in their part of the justice system (gathering evidence to build cases and sometimes testifying witness stand), you would realize what I said before.

[Lzen]

It's still comical to watch MU fans clinging to things like payoffs. Guys, they are not going to take away the championship from KU. Get over it.

[Braincase]

It's still comical to watch MU fans clinging to things like payoffs. Guys, they are not going to take away the championship from KU. Get over it.

Won't happen until they win something of their own. Until then, they'll just have to focus on hatin'.

[Lzen]

Won't happen until they win something of their own. Until then, they'll just have to focus on hatin'.

So you're saying they will be hatin' on us forever? ;)

[little jacob]

It's still comical to watch MU fans clinging to things like payoffs. Guys, they are not going to take away the championship from KU. Get over it.

It's still comical to watch KU fans pretend that things like widespread academic dishonesty and FedEx envelopes full of cash don't matter because they won the title.

[Skip Towne]

Last I checked you were still innocent until proven guilty in this country. I would think you, as a police officer, would know that.

Have you noticed he is no longer a police officer?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

im sure KU payed them off. Its kind of funny that every time one of KU players gets in trouble, then 2 weeks later that players get cleared.

[MyChiefConcern]

It's still comical to watch KU fans pretend that things like widespread academic dishonesty and FedEx envelopes full of cash don't matter because they won the title.

Trying to claim the moral high ground in today's collegiate athletics climate is just...dumb.

12-1 Orange Bowl Champs.

2008 National Basketball Champions.

Suck it. Hard.

[WilliamTheIrish]

im sure KU payed them off. Its kind of funny that every time one of KU players gets in trouble, then 2 weeks later that players get cleared.

That's not always true. They've got a lot of history of players getting booted. I don't think their percentage is any higher or lower than any other university.

Clearly, DA was never going to be a marine biologist. That makes him exactly like 99% of the population. People of average intelligence who use their best skill to make money.

His skill happens to be BBall. And it pays a shiot ton of money.

[Braincase]

That's not always true. They've got a lot of history of players getting booted. I don't think their percentage is any higher or lower than any other university.

Clearly, DA was never going to be a marine biologist. That makes him exactly like 99% of the population. People of average intelligence who use their best skill to make money.

His skill happens to be BBall. And it pays a shiot ton of money.

So, Mizzou fans should consider careers as manure spreaders?

[Ebolapox]

jesus, not another KU circle jerk.

[Lzen]

It's still comical to watch KU fans pretend that things like widespread academic dishonesty and FedEx envelopes full of cash don't matter because they won the title.

Technically, it was lack of institutional control. And that was because they had one person trying to keep an eye on that and she also had a full time position doing something else. They have since addressed that issue. And until you can provide actual, tangible proof of anything involving cash payoffs, you are just grasping at straws. You don't sound any different than one of those 911 conspiracy nut jobs.

[Lzen]

im sure KU payed them off. Its kind of funny that every time one of KU players gets in trouble, then 2 weeks later that players get cleared.

Uh, nope. That is idiotic, too. Giddens did not get cleared. CJ Giles did not get cleared. Have you ever noticed that some people try to get rich by falsely accusing people? Duke lacrosse team ring any bells for ya?

[little jacob]

Trying to claim the moral high ground in today's collegiate athletics climate is just...dumb.

12-1 Orange Bowl Champs.

2008 National Basketball Champions.

Suck it. Hard.

right... cling to politicking your way into that game when you couldn't even get to your conference title game.

[Lzen]

right... cling to politicking your way into that game when you couldn't even get to your conference title game.

I take it that you're a Missouri fan. Look, KU didn't prevent MU from getting there. MU had their chance. Simply beat OU. Hell, I think they would have been invited if they had looked somewhat respectable against OU in the Big 12 championship game. Unfortunately for you guys, they didn't. Sure was nice for KU to be invited to and win their first ever BCS game. Thanks. ;)

[little jacob]

I take it that you're a Missouri fan. Look, KU didn't prevent MU from getting there. MU had their chance. Simply beat OU. Hell, I think they would have been invited if they had looked somewhat respectable against OU in the Big 12 championship game. Unfortunately for you guys, they didn't. Sure was nice for KU to be invited to and win their first ever BCS game. Thanks. ;)

You're welcome. Maybe your team can play their way to a bowl game on their own merits sometime.

[Lzen]

You're welcome. Maybe your team can play their way to a bowl game on their own merits sometime.

ROFL 1 game from an undefeated season was not playing their way? ROFL That's right. Blame KU for your team's ineptitude against OU.

[Skip Towne]

ROFL 1 game from an undefeated season was not playing their way? ROFL That's right. Blame KU for your team's ineptitude against OU.

You have to spell it out for Little Jerkob.

[Braincase]

right... cling to politicking your way into that game when you couldn't even get to your conference title game.

Blame your AD for not doing his job, not our AD for doing his.

[little jacob]

ROFL 1 game from an undefeated season was not playing their way? ROFL That's right. Blame KU for your team's ineptitude against OU.

Like you guys would have beaten Oklahoma. Since Missouri proved conclusively who was the better team, you'd likely have been embarrassed just as bad, if not worse.

[Demonpenz]

The one sport Missouri is supposedly better at and KU goes to a better bowl game and beants a great team. All missouri can do is wake up at 9 am with TV's C crew...who didn't bother to bring 2 camera's because no one cares. Then a couple months down the line KU goes into legendary status after a the 3 pointer heard around the world. Now etched into america's mind is Chalmers 3 pointer and KU fans dancing in the street truely one of defining moments in college history by a school who was the backbone behind college athletics

[Braincase]

Like you guys would have beaten Oklahoma. Since Missouri proved conclusively who was the better team, you'd likely have been embarrassed just as bad, if not worse.

No doubt, Mizzou proved Oklahoma was better.

[Lzen]

Like you guys would have beaten Oklahoma. Since Missouri proved conclusively who was the better team, you'd likely have been embarrassed just as bad, if not worse.

Why is it always about KU for some of you MU fans? Look in the mirror.

[Demonpenz]

I think KU might have beaten OU, unfortunately we didn't get a shot. I guess we will never know now. We will just have to accept our NATIONAL CHAMP in basketball and ORANGE BOWL. CHALMERS FTW!

[Frazod]

Blame your AD for not doing his job, not our AD for doing his.

It never ceases to amaze me how proud you are of Lew "Cooking Spray" Perkins.

That which could not be won on the field was stolen behind the scenes.

Never gets old saying that, either. The truth will set you free.

If OSU is the poster girl for all that is wrong with the BCS, Kansas is the lapdog in her purse.

[Braincase]

It never ceases to amaze me how proud you are of Lew "Cooking Spray" Perkins.

That which could not be won on the field was stolen behind the scenes.

Never gets old saying that, either. The truth will set you free.

And putting all your eggs in one basket will leave you blaming someone else when you lose to Oklahoma, again.

[Frazod]

And putting all your eggs in one basket will leave you blaming someone else when you lose to Oklahoma, again.

This is one of the more retarded things you've said on here, which is impressive. Nice how you continue to talk trash about a game we lost to a team you ducked in the regular season and then didn't get an opportunity to face later because of your EPIC FAIL against us.

God I can't wait until the Jayhoax play OU. FINALLY.

[Lzen]

It never ceases to amaze me how proud you are of Lew "Cooking Spray" Perkins.

That which could not be won on the field was stolen behind the scenes.

Never gets old saying that, either. The truth will set you free.

If OSU is the poster girl for all that is wrong with the BCS, Kansas is the lapdog in her purse.

Truth? What truth? You got proof? Oh, I think I found the dude that stole your hat. Does this look familiar?

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

[Frazod]

Truth? What truth? You got proof? Oh, I think I found the dude that stole your hat. Does this look familiar?

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Yeah, here's my f#cking proof:

[gblowfish]

Tell you what:
Let us give Arthur an Algebra Quiz, and if he passes, we'll shut up.
Fair enough?

[Demonpenz]

KU doesn't have time for algebra, they are too busy WINNING NATIONAL TITLES

[Braincase]

Tell you what:
Let us give Arthur an Algebra Quiz, and if he passes, we'll shut up.
Fair enough?

He's no longer involved with the program. But we'll get back with you right after Kalen Grimes passes his Hunter Safety Course.

[gblowfish]

He's no longer involved with the program. But we'll get back with you right after Kalen Grimes passes his Hunter Safety Course.

Kalen will be happy to meet you in the parking lot of your nearest DQ:

[Lzen]

Yeah, here's my f#cking proof:

Yes, yes. Unfortunately for us, that is what happens when your future NFL pick at left tackle re-injures himself and should not even be on the field. Congrats on the win. You guys deserved it. But that is still not even close to proof of anybody paying off anybody to get an OB invite. Try again.

[Braincase]

This is one of the more retarded things you've said on here, which is impressive. Nice how you continue to talk trash about a game we lost to a team you ducked in the regular season and then didn't get an opportunity to face later because of your EPIC FAIL against us.

God I can't wait until the Jayhoax play OU. FINALLY.

You were going to play in the National Championship game, all you had to do was beat Oklahoma - I guess they cheated, eh? And KU didn't play Oklahoma, we let the conference schedule our Big 12 South games... so I guess the conference schedulers cheated, right? And now KU has to play Texas, Oklahoma and Texas Tech in the same season. So the KU fan can now mock Mizzou's punk schedule, right? Shut up and win a title in something, PLEASE. Try and hang your hat on something other than a rivalry that is pretty much even up after a hundred years.

Whatever you do, KWITCHERBITCHIN' about your own shortcomings. Own your AD. Fire his ass if he can't cover Mizzou's ass. Win a title, for crying out loud.

[Braincase]

Kalen will be happy to meet you in the parking lot of your nearest DQ:

That's some funny chit.

[Frazod]

Yes, yes. Unfortunately for us, that is what happens when your future NFL pick at left tackle re-injures himself and should not even be on the field. Congrats on the win. You guys deserved it. But that is still not even close to proof of anybody paying off anybody to get an OB invite. Try again.

Then try this one, dumbass. Two team plays to determine who goes to the conference championship game. One team wins. The other team loses. Yet the loser advances past the winner.

Unless the rules were changed so that low score wins in football games (in which case, as the loser, you'd definitely win), then some horseshit obviously happened.

[Frazod]

You were going to play in the National Championship game, all you had to do was beat Oklahoma - I guess they cheated, eh? And KU didn't play Oklahoma, we let the conference schedule our Big 12 South games... so I guess the conference schedulers cheated, right? And now KU has to play Texas, Oklahoma and Texas Tech in the same season. So the KU fan can now mock Mizzou's punk schedule, right? Shut up and win a title in something, PLEASE. Try and hang your hat on something other than a rivalry that is pretty much even up after a hundred years.

Whatever you do, KWITCHERBITCHIN' about your own shortcomings. Own your AD. Fire his ass if he can't cover Mizzou's ass. Win a title, for crying out loud.

Keep hanging your bullshit on ANOTHER TEAM'S accomplishments - one you didn't play. Oklawho? And who ever said Oklahoma cheated? Your lameass KUnt excuses just get sadder and sadder.

And still, pride for a thief who made up for what your queerbait team couldn't win legitimately.

[Braincase]

Then try this one, dumbass. Two team plays to determine who goes to the conference championship game. One team wins. The other team loses. Yet the loser advances past the winner.

Unless the rules were changed so that low score wins in football games (in which case, as the loser, you'd definitely win), then some horseshit obviously happened.

Yeah... the Orange Bowl committe was trying to keep the crime rate down in Miami.

[Frazod]

Yeah... the Orange Bowl committe was trying to keep the crime rate down in Miami.

By committing one themselves.

[Lzen]

Then try this one, dumbass. Two team plays to determine who goes to the conference championship game. One team wins. The other team loses. Yet the loser advances past the winner.

Unless the rules were changed so that low score wins in football games (in which case, as the loser, you'd definitely win), then some horseshit obviously happened.

Geez, Tim. Try not to get so angry. You or I never had any control over the situation anyway. But last I checked, the KU/MU game really didn't have much to do with the national championship game.

Ok, here are a couple of legitimate questions for you. Please answer honestly.

If MU had beaten OU, do you think they would have been invited to play in the national championship game?

Do you think that if MU had played OU close but still lost, would they have been invited to the Orange Bowl?

[Braincase]

By committing one themselves.

Poor Missouri. Go down to the BCS, pull down your pants and ask them to kiss your booboo.

[Frazod]

Geez, Tim. Try not to get so angry. You or I never had any control over the situation anyway. But last I checked, the KU/MU game really didn't have much to do with the national championship game.

Ok, here are a couple of legitimate questions for you. Please answer honestly.

If MU had beaten OU, do you think they would have been invited to play in the national championship game?

Do you think that if MU had played OU close but still lost, would they have been invited to the Orange Bowl?

It's a simple concept. I'll use small words for the benefit of the KU types.

The Big XII Championship Game was played between Oklahoma and Missouri. This means that Oklahoma and Missouri distinguished themselves from the rest of the conference who did NOT play in the Big XII Championship Game. THIS MEANS YOU. The teams that SITS because they LOST shouldn't leapfrog the team that BEAT them.

And you know that.

The end.

And Braincase, you can kiss this, cocksucker. 4321

[Braincase]

It's a simple concept. I'll use small words for the benefit of the KU types.

The Big XII Championship Game was played between Oklahoma and Missouri. This means that Oklahoma and Missouri distinguished themselves from the rest of the conference who did NOT play in the Big XII Championship Game. THIS MEANS YOU. The teams that SITS because they LOST shouldn't leapfrog the team that BEAT them.

And you know that.

The end.

And Braincase, you can kiss this, cocksucker. 4321

Wow. I guess I must've struck a nerve.

Good luck this season. Remember, anything less than the national championship game, and your season is a complete trainwreck.

Gotta get going now... my son has his first practice in pads tonight, I need to get him a mouthpiece. Tried to find one in Missouri, but all the mouthpieces say "Binky" on them.

[siberian khatru]

Yes, because everybody knows that one game is a the same as a whole body of work of a season. :doh!:

Yeah, that's why they have final polls. :D

[Skip Towne]

Yeah, that's why they have final polls. :D

The important sports have playoffs or tournaments.

[Lzen]

You know what's funny? All the rival fans always bringing up the fact that when there's a football discussion, KU fans have to change the subject to basketball. This thread was about basketball and some MU fan(s) made it about football. :shake:

I wasn't even planning to get into that whole argument about KU, MU, and the Orange Bowl. We have been through all this over and over and it always got ugly. I just wish this horse would die. But I can't let some things that were insinuated go like that.

First, to compare KU to Denver and the Vaseline incident is just plain lame. The Broncos had Vaseline (or cooking spray or whatever) on their jerseys in that playoff game at Arrowhead. We know it because it was plain to see. It was visible and the radio and tv guys mentioned it as well as players later on.

The whole thing about the OB was completely different. You can have your conspiracy theories all you want. But don't try to compare the Jayhawks to the Denver Broncos in that regard. There is not one shred of proof that anybody was paid off. The only thing frazod has is speculation. To suggest that these 2 incidents are the same is bush league.

And I don't recall fraz ever once admitting to the fact that his team had their chance and simply blew it. No, instead he wants to continue blaming KU for MU's ineptitude against OU. All of MU's woes are KU's fault. ROFL Give me a fuggin' break.

[Frazod]

You know what's funny? All the rival fans always bringing up the fact that when there's a football discussion, KU fans have to change the subject to basketball. This thread was about basketball and some MU fan(s) made it about football. :shake:

I wasn't even planning to get into that whole argument about KU, MU, and the Orange Bowl. We have been through all this over and over and it always got ugly. I just wish this horse would die. But I can't let some things that were insinuated go like that.

First, to compare KU to Denver and the Vaseline incident is just plain lame. The Broncos had Vaseline (or cooking spray or whatever) on their jerseys in that playoff game at Arrowhead. We know it because it was plain to see. It was visible and the radio and tv guys mentioned it as well as players later on.

The whole thing about the OB was completely different. You can have your conspiracy theories all you want. But don't try to compare the Jayhawks to the Denver Broncos in that regard. There is not one shred of proof that anybody was paid off. The only thing frazod has is speculation. To suggest that these 2 incidents are the same is bush league.

And I don't recall fraz ever once admitting to the fact that his team had their chance and simply blew it. No, instead he wants to continue blaming KU for MU's ineptitude against OU. All of MU's woes are KU's fault. ROFL Give me a fuggin' break.

Advancing to games you don't deserve through means other than play on the field is what it is.

And there goes a KU guy talking about Oklahoma again. OklaWHO? YOU DIDN'T PLAY THEM! Never have I denied that MU blew it against OU. BUT YOU BLEW IT AGAINST US. Do you deny that? What's not to understand here? What about your ineptitude? You failed at a lower level game; we failed at a championship level game while your players were watching at home on TV. Yet you advance to a BCS game and you scumbags have the nerve to say it's A-OK? That's shameful. More to the point, it is Bronco, through and through.

[Bearcat]

You know what's funny? All the rival fans always bringing up the fact that when there's a football discussion, KU fans have to change the subject to basketball. This thread was about basketball and some MU fan(s) made it about football. :shake:

I wasn't even planning to get into that whole argument about KU, MU, and the Orange Bowl. We have been through all this over and over and it always got ugly. I just wish this horse would die. But I can't let some things that were insinuated go like that.

And I don't recall fraz ever once admitting to the fact that his team had their chance and simply blew it. No, instead he wants to continue blaming KU for MU's ineptitude against OU. All of MU's woes are KU's fault. ROFL Give me a fuggin' break.


Yeah, all logic goes out the window in these threads. What's really funny is that while most Kansas fans here have pretty realistic expectations for this season, thinking we'll lose a few games, especially to OU and Texas....... if/when Kansas does lose, it'll be "OMG, they're frauds!!!" from the Murons. Too bad we didn't play OU last year, back when losing to them didn't make you a fraud.

I wonder if the same people who have complained about seeing the same old Favre crap for the past 2 months are the same people who endlessly complain about this sh*t that happened last season. Just let it go.

[irishjayhawk]

Then try this one, dumbass. Two team plays to determine who goes to the conference championship game. One team wins. The other team loses. Yet the loser advances past the winner.

Unless the rules were changed so that low score wins in football games (in which case, as the loser, you'd definitely win), then some horseshit obviously happened.

You clearly have a problem with the BCS rather than KU, in this case. It happens all the time. How did OSU play for a title last year? They didn't deserve it. How do titles get shared?

It's the BCS you dislike. Don't act like KU rigged the BCS. That would be laughable.

[Spott]

This shit was really old about 6 months ago. Hell, noone else in the country even cares who played in the Cotton Bowl or Orange Bowl last year. The only game that will be remembered was the National Championship game, and neither team was in it. Everyone besides the BCS knows that the system is flawed and last year there were 3 3rd place teams playing in BCS games along with Hawaii. College football as a whole is pretty screwed up, and your only real chance to have an undisputed title is if you go undefeated, except for Auburn and Utah a couple of years ago.

[Frazod]

You clearly have a problem with the BCS rather than KU, in this case. It happens all the time. How did OSU play for a title last year? They didn't deserve it. How do titles get shared?

It's the BCS you dislike. Don't act like KU rigged the BCS. That would be laughable.

Obviously the BCS is a sick joke. I agree with what you said.

I just get sick of jackasses like Lzen and Braincase trying to justify it when there is no justification for it.

[irishjayhawk]

Obviously the BCS is a sick joke. I agree with what you said.

I just get sick of jackasses like Lzen and Braincase trying to justify it when there is no justification for it.

Well, for the sake of argument, couldn't you turn that quote around for yourself:

I just get sick of jackasses like frazod trying to hate on it when there is no justification for it

I'm sure that's what they're thinking. It's the problem with horrible trench lines.

[Frazod]

It can be spun in all sorts of ways.

But the bottom line is this - had Missouri lost to Kansas then advanced to a BCS game in spite of that, I wouldn't be bragging about it. I'd be ashamed.

[irishjayhawk]

It can be spun in all sorts of ways.

But the bottom line is this - had Missouri lost to Kansas then advanced to a BCS game in spite of that, I wouldn't be bragging about it. I'd be ashamed.

Ehhhhhhh, I don't know if I honestly believe that - given the trench line you live in.
;)

[Frazod]

Ehhhhhhh, I don't know if I honestly believe that - given the trench line you live in.
;)

No. I want to win, but I want to win fair and square.

Must be a Missouri thing.

[irishjayhawk]

No. I want to win, but I want to win fair and square.

Must be a Missouri thing.

Forgive my memory, but wasn't MU KU's only loss whereas MU had two losses? Honest question.

[Spott]

Forgive my memory, but wasn't MU KU's only loss whereas MU had two losses? Honest question.

Both teams lost 1 game in the regular season and MU played one more game and ended up losing to OU twice.

[irishjayhawk]

Both teams lost 1 game in the regular season and MU played one more game and ended up losing to OU twice.

That's right.

The only defense I can come up with is that if there is anything the BCS does not lie about it is this:

Don't lose late. Period.

[Frazod]

Forgive my memory, but wasn't MU KU's only loss whereas MU had two losses? Honest question.

JV Non-conference schedule
No road games in your non-conference schedule
No games played outside Kansas until the middle of October
No Oklahoma
No Texas

Again, I think this has been covered a couple of times.

[irishjayhawk]

JV Non-conference schedule
No road games in your non-conference schedule
No games played outside Kansas until the middle of October
No Oklahoma
No Texas

Again, I think this has been covered a couple of times.


I suppose this response would have been addressed several times.

The bold is out of KU's control. Big 12 does the schedule.

[Frazod]

I suppose this response would have been addressed several times.

The bold is out of KU's control. Big 12 does the schedule.

Regardless, whether it was Mangino's KUpcakes or your conference schedule, it all combined for a easy slide that didn't garner much respect from those in the know.

[teedubya]

Awww, FatBald is crying again IN a Jayhawks thread. His crying is sooo cute.

[Frazod]

Awww, FatBald is crying again IN a Jayhawks thread. His crying is sooo cute.

Hi fAiRy. I see I still live in your pointed little head. :)

[irishjayhawk]

Regardless, whether it was Mangino's KUpcakes or your conference schedule, it all combined for a easy slide that didn't garner much respect from those in the know.

America always likes the surprise underdog, regardless of things like ease of schedule.

Hell, look at the Pats and Colts who always have easy schedules. Think of the Colt's superbowl run. They had the easiest path to the superbowl in a while. No one cared to listen.

[Spott]

America always likes the surprise underdog, regardless of things like ease of schedule.

Hell, look at the Pats and Colts who always have easy schedules. Think of the Colt's superbowl run. They had the easiest path to the superbowl in a while. No one cared to listen.

No doubt. Their first playoff game that year was against the worst offensive team I've seen in decades. :banghead:

[teedubya]

Hi fAiRy. I see I still live in your pointed little head. :)

Actually, you live on as the defacto MUron joke. You cry non-stop... like a itchy sandy vagina that won't go away.

Do you see the :KU: on the thread? Yeah, its like a magnet for cry baby bitches like you to come in and cry about shit that was out of the control of EVERYONE. Sorry your team lost to OU twice, and that you got 'shafted' out of a BCS game, but your constant ****ing crying about it, makes you the biggest ****ing pansy on Chiefsplanet... and that in itself is quite a feat.

Congrats.

[irishjayhawk]

No doubt. Their first playoff game that year was against the worst offensive team I've seen in decades. :banghead:

And what's sad is that if we had a lick of offense, we'd have won - seeing as Peyton through 3 INTs.

Not to mention they played the Ravens, who also have no offense.

[Lzen]

Regardless, whether it was Mangino's KUpcakes or your conference schedule, it all combined for a easy slide that didn't garner much respect from those in the know.

Does any KU fan really give a shit about whether frazod respects the team? No. Hell, we could (hypothetically) play teams ranked 1-12, end up with the same record as last year, and frazod's KU hatred would still prevent any kind of rational thought and respect for KU.

Oh, and your comment about you would be ashamed if the roles were reversed....I call BS. You also said during the season last year that if they win certain games, you would give them respect. Texas AM game comes to mind. That didn't change your attitude one bit.

You act like that spoiled little brat who doesn't get his way and throws a temper tantrum about it. I give up trying to be rational with you about this. You are a big baby.

[Braincase]

KU was undefeated when they lost to the #4 ranked country in nation. MU moved to #1. MU had one loss on the season, to Oklahoma, and Oklahoma was ranked #5 or 6, so on paper, Missouri had a worse loss than KU did, after all, Colorado was a bit of a doormat in 2007.

Then the #1 and God's Own Team (#1 in country - I mentioned that, right?) lost to the then #8 or #9 ranked Oklahoma Sooners AGAIN.

Yeah, KU lost to #4 when they were ranked #2. Missouri lost to #8 when they were ranked #1. I don't know, but if you look at the math, I'd guess Missouri was the bigger fraud.

Would you like me to do a deep dive into the margin of victory issue?

[Skip Towne]

KU was undefeated when they lost to the #4 ranked country in nation. MU moved to #1. MU had one loss on the season, to Oklahoma, and Oklahoma was ranked #5 or 6, so on paper, Missouri had a worse loss than KU did, after all, Colorado was a bit of a doormat in 2007.

Then the #1 and God's Own Team (#1 in country - I mentioned that, right?) lost to the then #8 or #9 ranked Oklahoma Sooners AGAIN.

Yeah, KU lost to #4 when they were ranked #2. Missouri lost to #8 when they were ranked #1. I don't know, but if you look at the math, I'd guess Missouri was the bigger fraud.

Would you like me to do a deep dive into the margin of victory issue?

Yes, please do. Also please notice that Rucker scored a TD with 11 seconds left to make the 10 point loss seem closer than it actually was.

[Braincase]

Yes, please do. Also please notice that Rucker scored a TD with 11 seconds left to make the 10 point loss seem closer than it actually was.

There is the issue of a 10 point loss combined with a 21 point loss, so the average loss was by 15.5 points to team with an average ranking of 7, whereas KU's loss to the number 4 ranked team in the country by 8 points - ranking differential of -2, as opposed to Mizzou's Big 12 Championship loss to Oklahoma (-7 ranking differential, -8 depending on who you ask) and by 21 points? Sorry, but that isn't what you expect from the #1 team in the country.

Has frazod neg repped me yet? He really hates it when I start using logic. He'd neg rep me if I proved to him that 6x9=42 (and it does).

[DJay23]

There is the issue of a 10 point loss combined with a 21 point loss, so the average loss was by 15.5 points to team with an average ranking of 7, whereas KU's loss to the number 4 ranked team in the country by 8 points - ranking differential of -2, as opposed to Mizzou's Big 12 Championship loss to Oklahoma (-7 ranking differential, -8 depending on who you ask) and by 21 points? Sorry, but that isn't what you expect from the #1 team in the country.

Has frazod neg repped me yet? He really hates it when I start using logic. He'd neg rep me if I proved to him that 6x9=42 (and it does).

I'm sure he'll post that picture of Reesing with the turf in his face mask and spew a string of filthy words about KU in response. It's like his comfy blankie.

[Braincase]

I'm sure he'll post that picture of Reesing with the turf in his face mask and spew a string of filthy words about KU in response. It's like his comfy blankie.

And he'll call KU's coach fat, and make some derogatory homosexual reference to Lew Perkins and KU fans in general.

[Skip Towne]

And he'll call KU's coach fat, and make some derogatory homosexual reference to Lew Perkins and KU fans in general.

Oh, and the part about promising respect if we beat certain teams then reneging when we did..........it's a Missouri thing.

[teedubya]

Don't forget he might throw in a Quantril reference... he loves 19th century murderers and rapists and slave lovin' baby killers!!!!

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/contexts/kansas/quantril.html

what a bastard!! William "Frazod" Quantril

[Frazod]

I see all the KUnts took advantage of my brokedick ISP to gang up on me last night. Isn't that cute.

I love the way Brainfart loves to throw stats around - everything under the sun except for the KUnts' strength of schedule in route to that "Number 2 ranking" :whackit: The king of logic, indeed. LMAO You go, girl.

In response to the whole respect thing - as near as I can tell, there are about five KU fans on this board who aren't complete and total scum. They are nearly as rare as a KU win against a quality opponent.

And finally, fAiRy, your knowledge of history is as lame as pretty much every other aspect of your existence. Quantrill was neither a rapist or a baby killer, and was no worse than the scum who rode on the other side. He certainly was a killer of full grown male Jayhawkers, though. Too bad he didn't kill more.

And at least we didn't name our team after thieves and murderers.

Carry on, ladies.

[crazycoffey]

what the f**k is going on in here?

[Lzen]

Wow, about 5 KU fans that aren't complete and total scum in fraz's mind. Now I'm curious. Who would be those 5? I'm sure it isn't any in this thread as he can't stand the ones who can actually don't agree completely with his viewpoint. Intersting that people that don't agree with fraz are considered scum. That's a pretty strong word.

[Braincase]

I see all the KUnts took advantage of my brokedick ISP to gang up on me last night. Isn't that cute.

I love the way Brainfart loves to throw stats around - everything under the sun except for the KUnts' strength of schedule in route to that "Number 2 ranking" :whackit: The king of logic, indeed. LMAO You go, girl.

In response to the whole respect thing - as near as I can tell, there are about five KU fans on this board who aren't complete and total scum. They are nearly as rare as a KU win against a quality opponent.

And finally, fAiRy, your knowledge of history is as lame as pretty much every other aspect of your existence. Quantrill was neither a rapist or a baby killer, and was no worse than the scum who rode on the other side. He certainly was a killer of full grown male Jayhawkers, though. Too bad he didn't kill more.

And at least we didn't name our team after thieves and murderers.

Carry on, ladies.

The reality is, I like Tim, and he and I get along on just about every topic other than those involving KU and MU. I'm not kind, I find a wound and pour salt and lemon on it repeatedly, so, yeah, I'm a bit of a dick when it comes to that.

This year, KU will probably lose three or four games, hell, we might just tank the entire season. We don't have lofty expectations for this year, so the pressure isn't really on KU.

Let's see how some other teams (and their fans) hold up under real pressure, shall we? Good luck Tiger fans.

[Frazod]

Wow, about 5 KU fans that aren't complete and total scum in fraz's mind. Now I'm curious. Who would be those 5? I'm sure it isn't any in this thread as he can't stand the ones who can actually don't agree completely with his viewpoint. Intersting that people that don't agree with fraz are considered scum. That's a pretty strong word.

People on this board made me hate Kansas. Used to be just another rival team with some historical predecent which made it a bit more fun. But seven years of enduring the arrogance, the gloating, the pettiness, the poor sportsmanship, utter lack of class, you name it. KU fans are the worst of the worst. And I reached my breaking point for tolerating it long ago.

And if you think you might be one of them, then you probably are. But in the end, I don't give a shit what any of you think of me.

[Reerun_KC]

Frazod? You make me laugh..

Keep up the good fight, I admire your dedication.

[Reerun_KC]

People on this board made me hate Missouri. Used to be just another rival team with some historical predecent which made it a bit more fun. But seven years of enduring the arrogance, the gloating, the pettiness, the poor sportsmanship, utter lack of class, you name it. MU fans are the worst of the worst. And I reached my breaking point for tolerating it long ago.

And if you think you might be one of them, then you probably are. But in the end, I don't give a shit what any of you think of me.

FYP!

:Poke:

ROFL

[Midnight_Vulture]

Wow KU is a shady program.

Not only do their athletes accept "gifts" but Mario Chalmers dad was able to be an assistant coach for 3 yrs there?!

And now he just mysteriously quits. Hmmmmm....

[Reerun_KC]

Wow KU is a shady program.

Not only do their athletes accept "gifts" but Mario Chalmers dad was able to be an assistant coach for 3 yrs there?!

And now he just mysteriously quits. Hmmmmm....


Hmmmmm? Shady Programs? Quin Snyder? Hmmmmmm.....

[Frazod]

Hmmmmm? Shady Programs? Quin Snyder? Hmmmmmm.....

Um, he isn't one of ours. MV's a fan of USC, Georgia, or whoever is winning at the time.

[Reerun_KC]

Um, he isn't one of ours. MV's a fan of USC, Georgia, or whoever is winning at the time.
Great so now he is a KU fan...:hmmm:

[gblowfish]

Please...Midnight Douchebag....
Don't get into defending Mizzou.

We don't need the help.
We don't want the help.

Just go cruise for 15 year olds at Worlds of Fun or Side Pockets.

Fraz has this covered.

[Reerun_KC]

Please...Midnight Douchebag....
Don't get into defending Mizzou.

We don't need the help.
We don't want the help.

Just go cruise for 15 year olds at Worlds of Fun or Side Pockets.

Fraz has this covered.
LMAO

Damn dude that was funny!

[irishjayhawk]

Please...Midnight Douchebag....
Don't get into defending Mizzou.

We don't need the help.
We don't want the help.

Just go cruise for 15 year olds at Worlds of Fun or Side Pockets.

Fraz has this covered.

So true. LMAO

People on this board made me hate Kansas. Used to be just another rival team with some historical predecent which made it a bit more fun. But seven years of enduring the arrogance, the gloating, the pettiness, the poor sportsmanship, utter lack of class, you name it. KU fans are the worst of the worst. And I reached my breaking point for tolerating it long ago.

And if you think you might be one of them, then you probably are. But in the end, I don't give a shit what any of you think of me.

The worst KU fans are the same as the worst MU fans who are the same as the worst Duke fans who are the same as the worst USC fans. It's all the same. You happen to be a rival so they come out of the woodwork. Both sides have them. I'm sure you could be considered - with all the venom you usually have - the worst of the worst MU fans. It shouldn't be an insult it just means you're passionate, even if - a bit - irrational at times.

[teedubya]

So true. LMAO



The worst KU fans are the same as the worst MU fans who are the same as the worst Duke fans who are the same as the worst USC fans. It's all the same. You happen to be a rival so they come out of the woodwork. Both sides have them. I'm sure you could be considered - with all the venom you usually have - the worst of the worst MU fans. It shouldn't be an insult it just means you're passionate, even if - a bit - irrational at times.


Actually, I classify the Worst of the Worst MU fans... as the ones that DIDN'T go to Mizzou and get sandy vageen in EVERY thread with a KU icon on it. So, yeah, Fatbald would be included, actually, it may be an exclusive club of only one douche.

ROFL

[Frazod]

Actually, I classify the Worst of the Worst MU fans... as the ones that DIDN'T go to Mizzou and get sandy vageen in EVERY thread with a KU icon on it. So, yeah, Fatbald would be included, actually, it may be an exclusive club of only one douche.

ROFL

And here comes fAiRy again, the worst of the lot - the biggest piece of shit ever to disgrace this board with his/her/its presence. The sore winner, the sore loser. The gutless bitch who vanished after the MU/KU game and resurfaced with a different login claiming to be an OU fan. The champion whiner who dares to claim anybody else is a whiner; another anonymous cybertwat who's got nothing but the good ole failpass fat bald thing. Good thing you went to college, sweetie; you wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the service.

And one other thing - you claim to have kids - seriously, who's the father?

[vailpass]

Fraz making friends again with his winning ways.
I love it when you call everyone names Frazzy, it makes me feel so dirty. :)

[Lzen]

Wow KU is a shady program.

Not only do their athletes accept "gifts" but Mario Chalmers dad was able to be an assistant coach for 3 yrs there?!

And now he just mysteriously quits. Hmmmmm....

Like it or not, many schools do this type of thing. There is nothing against the rules in doing this. Perhaps the NCAA needs to make some rules about it. But as long as it isn't in the rules, you can't say they did anything wrong. KU may be hiring Xavier Henry's dad next. :p

[Frazod]

Fraz making friends again with his winning ways.
I love it when you call everyone names Frazzy, it makes me feel so dirty. :)

When you and fAiRy f#ck each other, who takes top?

[Demonpenz]

i would say fairy is in front, you know to grab the wings

[little jacob]

was just reading in the Star that MU was allotted 30,000 tickets for the border war game that are gone, but there are plenty of KU's 30,000 tickets left, so MU fans have been ordering a lot of tickets off the ku athletics website.

[vailpass]

When you and fAiRy f#ck each other, who takes top?

Whosever cock was in your mouth last, the stinky gets the top.

[Frazod]

Whosever cock was in your mouth last, the stinky gets the top.

Sorry to ruin your fantasy, big boy, but I don't swing that way.

Besides, that would actually require you to meet me in person, and we both know that will never happen.

[vailpass]

Sorry to ruin your fantasy, big boy, but I don't swing that way.

Besides, that would actually require you to meet me in person, and we both know that will never happen.

LMAO Look at you dude, calling everyone names and playing the bb tough guy.
I told you, I've seen pictures of you and the only danger you present is if you were to either eat someone whole or blind them with the shine off your big head.
You are a bitterman dude, you are like that old comic guy Don Rickles. I'll leave you to your name calling now big guy. Cheer up, it's gotta' be lunch time soon.

[Midnight_Vulture]

Like it or not, many schools do this type of thing. There is nothing against the rules in doing this. Perhaps the NCAA needs to make some rules about it. But as long as it isn't in the rules, you can't say they did anything wrong. KU may be hiring Xavier Henry's dad next. :p

I know its not illegal but it looks desperate and pathetic on the gayhawks part. Seriously, that Bill $elf will win at all costs. Its quite sad. Doesnt that guy wear a hair piece as well?LMAO

And yeah I am not saying the gayhawks are the only program that does it. Many are guilty of it. Just shows you how shady NCAA athletics are.

[irishjayhawk]

I know its not illegal but it looks desperate and pathetic on the gayhawks part. Seriously, that Bill $elf will win at all costs. Its quite sad. Doesnt that guy wear a hair piece as well?LMAO

And yeah I am not saying the gayhawks are the only program that does it. Many are guilty of it. Just shows you how shady NCAA athletics are.

ROFL

Actually, it's the opposite. The NCAA has too many rules as it is. Hell, if you don't breathe in the right rhythm you might get fined.

[Braincase]

I wouldn't post 90% of my pro-KU posts if it wasn't for frazod. I'd let almost all of it slide right off, but when he starts gettin' nasty, I'm not just gonna sit back and take it. It's cause & effect. If he thinks I'm one of the worst types of KU fans on the board today, he has noone to blame but himself. I'm a pretty good guy, but I ain't gonna be nobody's bitch.

When frazod backs off his noise, I'll be the first to comply with the cease fire.

[Frazod]

I wouldn't post 90% of my pro-KU posts if it wasn't for frazod. I'd let almost all of it slide right off, but when he starts gettin' nasty, I'm not just gonna sit back and take it. It's cause & effect. If he thinks I'm one of the worst types of KU fans on the board today, he has noone to blame but himself. I'm a pretty good guy, but I ain't gonna be nobody's bitch.

When frazod backs off his noise, I'll be the first to comply with the cease fire.

:deevee:

Cry me a f#cking river.

You were running your typical "Perkins rules, so what if we lost the game?" crap long before I posted here. Lzen and Skip were chiming in with their little MUron digs as well. I know being from Kansas you're probably a bit challenged in the reading comprehension department, but I do invite you to go back see who slung shit first here. I wouldn't have given this thread a second look other than that.

I'm sorry if you feel you can't hang in the smack department. Perhaps you should call in Perkins to fight this battle for you as well. :shake:

[Midnight_Vulture]

Can anyone post pics of this frazod dude?

I want to laugh my ass off.

[Frazod]

Can anyone post pics of this frazod dude?

I want to laugh my ass off.

At the top right hand corner of the page a series of photos cycles. One of them has a group of us that was taken at the Chiefs/Skins game a couple of years ago.

I'm the fat guy wearing the yellow shirt. Enjoy.

You don't seem to offer much in way of redeeming value, but the one thing you do that I like is actually back up your bullshit with real life pictures, which puts you far ahead of dickbags like failpass and fAirY.

[Midnight_Vulture]

BWAHAHAHAHA

When was the last time you could actually look down and see your penis?

[Midnight_Vulture]

And by the way, both of you inbred Misery and Gayhawk fans need to realize your football teams are both irrelavent LOL.

[Frazod]

BWAHAHAHAHA

When was the last time you could actually look down and see your penis?

It's big enough, I can still see it. Thanks for asking, though.

[Midnight_Vulture]

It's big enough, I can still see it. Thanks for asking, though.

REALLY? Even over that HUGE beer gut of yours??

[Frazod]

REALLY? Even over that HUGE beer gut of yours??

Yep.

Let's see how your gut looks in 25 years.

Anything else?

[Midnight_Vulture]

I dont plan on having a gut cause I do this little thing called EXERCISING...you should try it sometime.

[Frazod]

I dont plan on having a gut cause I do this little thing called EXERCISING...you should try it sometime.

Good for you, junior. Run along and play now.

[Braincase]

:deevee:

Cry me a f#cking river.

You were running your typical "Perkins rules, so what if we lost the game?" crap long before I posted here. Lzen and Skip were chiming in with their little MUron digs as well. I know being from Kansas you're probably a bit challenged in the reading comprehension department, but I do invite you to go back see who slung shit first here. I wouldn't have given this thread a second look other than that.

I'm sorry if you feel you can't hang in the smack department. Perhaps you should call in Perkins to fight this battle for you as well. :shake:

I can't hang in the smack department? Give me a frickin' break. When it comes to cutting someone to the quick, I'll be one of the last guys on this board to resort to name-calling. I've NEVER called you a cocksucker, a fag, a homo or some other derogatory term regarding your sexual orientation. Why? Because it's probably not the truth.

Now, calling you a whiny bitch? That's probably closer to the mark.

Did I post a reply to some of your accusations against the school I root for? Hell yes, because I'm not going to sit back and take it. I don't have to. I can sling shit with the best of 'em, and you know it too, or else you wouldn't have felt the need to respond to every single one of my cracks.

Also, if you want to crack on my intellect, feel free. I'll mock your ignorant ass all day. If you want to go matching IQ tests, I'd be more than happy to oblige. I'll let you pick the index. If you want to compare scores in reading speed and comprehension, I'd be happy to oblige.

Go back and take a look at my posts. I'd say that Mizzou deserved a BCS game. I did post it. But am I going to say that KU didn't? Nope, because I thought they did, just like a lot of teams did.

It's a simple reality. Perkins > Alden. You know it, I know it, every single KU and Mizzou fan knows it. Mizzou was going to the National Championship game if they won. That's all they planned on. They didn't have a backup plan in case Oklahoma beat their asses by 21 points. Not KU's fault. Look in the ****ing mirror and own that reality. You don't hear fnas of Colorado whinng and complaining about the fact that they beat Oklahoma and didn't go to January Bowl.

Put the blame where it belongs. It's Mizzou's fault. Not KU's, not Lew Perkins, not KU fans, not John Frickin' Brown. It's your team, your coach, and your AD.

Own the reality. Quit blaming KU for your teams shortcomings. Good luck this fall.

[Spott]

And by the way, both of you inbred Misery and Gayhawk fans need to realize your football teams are both irrelavent LOL.

Yeah, well so are white dudes that dress half redneck and half ghetto.

[DJay23]

I dont plan on having a gut cause I do this little thing called EXERCISING...you should try it sometime.

That might be more true for KU, but Mizzou is the real deal this year. They could beat any team in the nation on any given day in my opinion.

[Braincase]

Yeah, well so are white dudes that dress half redneck and half ghetto.

I never did hear... what D-1 program did yonder stoopfawk play in?

[Reerun_KC]

Holy Christ Braincase! That rant was priceless!!!!

[DeezNutz]

I can't hang in the smack department? Give me a frickin' break. When it comes to cutting someone to the quick, I'll be one of the last guys on this board to resort to name-calling. I've NEVER called you a cocksucker, a Rump Ranger, a homo or some other derogatory term regarding your sexual orientation. Why? Because it's probably not the truth.

Now, calling you a whiny bitch? That's probably closer to the mark.

Did I post a reply to some of your accusations against the school I root for? Hell yes, because I'm not going to sit back and take it. I don't have to. I can sling shit with the best of 'em, and you know it too, or else you wouldn't have felt the need to respond to every single one of my cracks.

Also, if you want to crack on my intellect, feel free. I'll mock your ignorant ass all day. If you want to go matching IQ tests, I'd be more than happy to oblige. I'll let you pick the index. If you want to compare scores in reading speed and comprehension, I'd be happy to oblige.

Go back and take a look at my posts. I'd say that Mizzou deserved a BCS game. I did post it. But am I going to say that KU didn't? Nope, because I thought they did, just like a lot of teams did.

It's a simple reality. Perkins > Alden. You know it, I know it, every single KU and Mizzou fan knows it. Mizzou was going to the National Championship game if they won. That's all they planned on. They didn't have a backup plan in case Oklahoma beat their asses by 21 points. Not KU's fault. Look in the ****ing mirror and own that reality. You don't hear fnas of Colorado whinng and complaining about the fact that they beat Oklahoma and didn't go to January Bowl.

Put the blame where it belongs. It's Mizzou's fault. Not KU's, not Lew Perkins, not KU fans, not John Frickin' Brown. It's your team, your coach, and your AD.

Own the reality. Quit blaming KU for your teams shortcomings. Good luck this fall.

Ok...ass pirate. :D

[Midnight_Vulture]

That might be more true for KU, but Mizzou is the real deal this year. They could beat any team in the nation on any given day in my opinion.

BWHAHAHA dont even make me laugh. They arent even the best team in their own conference. That would go to Oklahoma (just look at what they did to you guys last year). The Sooners completely destroyed Misery.

[Braincase]

Holy Christ Braincase! That rant was priceless!!!!

Actually, now I realize how unfair my rant was, because obviously we're ganging up on frazod while his ISP is down. Probably KU's fault.

[Braincase]

BWHAHAHA dont even make me laugh. They arent even the best team in their own conference. That would go to Oklahoma (just look at what they did to you guys last year). The Sooners completely destroyed Misery.

I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times. Focus on the game. You just got attacked by a 12th level wizard throwing Cloudkill off a scroll. Roll your damn saving throw or I'll dock your next attack. And quit playing with my kids Boba Fett action figure.

[gblowfish]

We'll all get to line up and play it out again soon enough.

Then we can all scream at each other some more?

OK?

I know I feel a lot better now.

Time for night nights.

[Reerun_KC]

Actually, now I realize how unfair my rant was, because obviously we're ganging up on frazod while his ISP is down. Probably KU's fault.
Fair Enough, Frazod is one of my favorite posters... Love the dudes trash talk. It is very comical!

Sure it is KU's Fault. I am sure the GodFather Perkins had something to do with it.

So pile on and by the time he is done catching up reading all that trash, his keyboard will explode, while trying to reply.

[DJay23]

BWHAHAHA dont even make me laugh. They arent even the best team in their own conference. That would go to Oklahoma (just look at what they did to you guys last year). The Sooners completely destroyed Misery.

For future reference when you say, "you guys" and are directing your tough guy act at me, please know you are NOT referring to Mizzou. Normally I wouldn't give a shit, but I take offense to being lumped with those bastards.

[little jacob]

some humility on both sides would go a long way.

neither team deserved to be in the orange bowl, and if it weren't a banner year for mediocrity across all of division 1 neither would have ever been in the discussion.

it would have been just as ridiculous most years for a team that didn't win its conference to be in the orange bowl as it would be for a team that didn't even play for its conference title to be in the orange bowl.

neither were title contenders, it was just two programs presumably on the way up catching a lot of breaks while having great seasons. they both have a ways to go over last year to be a top 5 team in a good year.

[DJay23]

some humility on both sides would go a long way.

neither team deserved to be in the orange bowl, and if it weren't a banner year for mediocrity across all of division 1 neither would have ever been in the discussion.

it would have been just as ridiculous most years for a team that didn't win its conference to be in the orange bowl as it would be for a team that didn't even play for its conference title to be in the orange bowl.

neither were title contenders, it was just two programs presumably on the way up catching a lot of breaks while having great seasons. they both have a ways to go over last year to be a top 5 team in a good year.

Dead on.

[Frazod]

I can't hang in the smack department? Give me a frickin' break. When it comes to cutting someone to the quick, I'll be one of the last guys on this board to resort to name-calling. I've NEVER called you a one who sucks the penis, a fag, a homo or some other derogatory term regarding your sexual orientation. Why? Because it's probably not the truth.

Now, calling you a whiny bitch? That's probably closer to the mark.

Did I post a reply to some of your accusations against the school I root for? Hell yes, because I'm not going to sit back and take it. I don't have to. I can sling shit with the best of 'em, and you know it too, or else you wouldn't have felt the need to respond to every single one of my cracks.

Also, if you want to crack on my intellect, feel free. I'll mock your ignorant ass all day. If you want to go matching IQ tests, I'd be more than happy to oblige. I'll let you pick the index. If you want to compare scores in reading speed and comprehension, I'd be happy to oblige.

Go back and take a look at my posts. I'd say that Mizzou deserved a BCS game. I did post it. But am I going to say that KU didn't? Nope, because I thought they did, just like a lot of teams did.

It's a simple reality. Perkins > Alden. You know it, I know it, every single KU and Mizzou fan knows it. Mizzou was going to the National Championship game if they won. That's all they planned on. They didn't have a backup plan in case Oklahoma beat their asses by 21 points. Not KU's fault. Look in the ****ing mirror and own that reality. You don't hear fnas of Colorado whinng and complaining about the fact that they beat Oklahoma and didn't go to January Bowl.

Put the blame where it belongs. It's Mizzou's fault. Not KU's, not Lew Perkins, not KU fans, not John Frickin' Brown. It's your team, your coach, and your AD.

Own the reality. Quit blaming KU for your teams shortcomings. Good luck this fall.

Yeah, you're just a regular friggin genious, aren't you? You might want to think twice about your little intellectual challenge, but no matter. Again, your reading comprehension skills get a great big FAIL. I was talking about what you said in THIS THREAD, not whatever alleged comments you made elsewhere. You ignore the fact you started the mudslinging and I just joined in. As usual, you're stuck on OU beating us, but gloss over the fact that we beat you and moved on, and then trumpet the grand snaky accomplishments of your AD over ours. Funny, I thought we were talking about football, not administrative backroom skullduggery. The fact that you continue to harp on how great that is continues to be pathetic and lame, and probably too feminine to even be mentioned in Ladies Home Journal.

Two BCS slots - two teams playing at the championship level. Doesn't get any clearer or more logical than that. And you don't even have to be a genious to figure it out.

I guess if your daddy stopped some somebody from kicking your ass you'd brag about how tough you are. And smart, too. :rolleyes:

Your smack sucks and you suck. There's your reality.

[vailpass]

some humility on both sides would go a long way.

neither team deserved to be in the orange bowl, and if it weren't a banner year for mediocrity across all of division 1 neither would have ever been in the discussion.

it would have been just as ridiculous most years for a team that didn't win its conference to be in the orange bowl as it would be for a team that didn't even play for its conference title to be in the orange bowl.

neither were title contenders, it was just two programs presumably on the way up catching a lot of breaks while having great seasons. they both have a ways to go over last year to be a top 5 team in a good year.

Discussion closed.

[Lzen]

some humility on both sides would go a long way.

neither team deserved to be in the orange bowl, and if it weren't a banner year for mediocrity across all of division 1 neither would have ever been in the discussion.

it would have been just as ridiculous most years for a team that didn't win its conference to be in the orange bowl as it would be for a team that didn't even play for its conference title to be in the orange bowl.

neither were title contenders, it was just two programs presumably on the way up catching a lot of breaks while having great seasons. they both have a ways to go over last year to be a top 5 team in a good year.

Pretty good post and I agree with most of it. However, I will disagree with the part about not deserving to be in the OB. By the rules set up for the BCS bowls, both teams did what was required to be eligible for a BCS bowl. Only about 12 (or is it 16? - I can't remember for certain) teams can say that each year.

[Lzen]

frazod's argument is just plain sound.

Sound I tell ya.........









IF YOU'RE A !@#$ %^&*#$ MU HOMER!!

[Lzen]

fraz,

You never did answer my questions about what do you think would have happened if MU would have played OU close but still lost.

[Frazod]

fraz,

You never did answer my questions about what do you think would have happened if MU would have played OU close but still lost.

Who gives a shit? It doesn't make any difference.

Two teams reach the championship level. There are two BCS spots. The two championship level teams get them, regardless of the outcome of the game they play against each other. Unless you are retarded or corrupt, this makes perfect sense.

[Lzen]

Who gives a shit? It doesn't make any difference.

Two teams reach the championship level. There are two BCS spots. The two championship level teams get them, regardless of the outcome of the game they play against each other. Unless you are retarded or corrupt, this makes perfect sense.

Nice deflection. Last I checked, that KU/MU game was not a playoff game. Your not answering of the question tells me all I need to know.

[Braincase]

Who gives a shit? It doesn't make any difference.

Two teams reach the championship level. There are two BCS spots. The two championship level teams get them, regardless of the outcome of the game they play against each other. Unless you are retarded or corrupt, this makes perfect sense.

Yes, kids, remember. When you're number 2 and you lose to number 4 by 8, you're a bigger fraud than when your number 1 and lose to number 8 by 21.

Quit blaming KU for Mizzou's failure. If KU's a fraud, so's Mizzou's landmark victory of 2007, and their glorious week at number 1. Own your failure. If you have proof of a backroom deal, post it. Otherwise, it's just more sour grapes.

6x9=42

[Frazod]

Nice deflection. Last I checked, that KU/MU game was not a playoff game. Your not answering of the question tells me all I need to know.

What part of IT DOESN'T MATTER don't you understand, dumbass?

If we lose by 3 or 30, it is IRRELEVANT, because we made it to that level and YOU DIDN'T.

[Reerun_KC]

What part of IT DOESN'T MATTER don't you understand, dumbass?

If we lose by 3 or 30, it is IRRELEVANT, because we made it to that level and YOU DIDN'T.
How long are you going to live in the past about this?

New season in a couple of weeks. Think its time to let this go buddy?

[Braincase]

What part of IT DOESN'T MATTER don't you understand, dumbass?

If we lose by 3 or 30, it is IRRELEVANT, because we made it to that level and YOU DIDN'T.

Apparently, in the eyes of the BCS and the Orange Bowl selection committee, we did. Mizzou's failure trumped our failure.

[Frazod]

Yes, kids, remember. When you're number 2 and you lose to number 4 by 8, you're a bigger fraud than when your number 1 and lose to number 8 by 21.

Quit blaming KU for Mizzou's failure. If KU's a fraud, so's Mizzou's landmark victory of 2007, and their glorious week at number 1. Own your failure. If you have proof of a backroom deal, post it. Otherwise, it's just more sour grapes.

6x9=42

You should even be allowed to use the word "fraud" in a sentence. When we were playing Illinois on the road, who were you playing? Seriously, I can't even remember. Do they still even have a team? When we were playing Oklahoma in Norman, was that the weekend you somehow survived that great juggernaut Baylor? Or was that the week after? F#ck you.

[Frazod]

Apparently, in the eyes of the BCS and the Orange Bowl selection committee, we did. Mizzou's failure trumped our failure.

And what was the Orange Bowl selection committee's record last year? Oh wait, they don't have a team, do they?

If guess if they did Mangina would add them to to your non-conference schedule.

[little jacob]

Pretty good post and I agree with most of it. However, I will disagree with the part about not deserving to be in the OB. By the rules set up for the BCS bowls, both teams did what was required to be eligible for a BCS bowl. Only about 12 (or is it 16? - I can't remember for certain) teams can say that each year.

Come on, take off the homer glasses. Neither KU or VT or MU would have ever gotten a whiff of the BCS in most years. It was the weakest top 10 in division 1 to end the season in decades.

To get there, Missouri had to lose to Oklahoma twice, WV had to lose to Pitt, USC had to lose to Stanford, if Texas hadn't had the bad loss to A&M they could conceivably have been there.

You can throw those dice all day long, but Yahtzee still is only going to come up every so often.

[Lzen]

And what was the Orange Bowl selection committee's record last year? Oh wait, they don't have a team, do they?

If guess if they did Mangina would add them to to your non-conference schedule.

Actually, here's a record for you. :p

[Braincase]

You should even be allowed to use the word "fraud" in a sentence. When we were playing Illinois on the road, who were you playing? Seriously, I can't even remember. Do they still even have a team? When we were playing Oklahoma in Norman, was that the weekend you somehow survived that great juggernaut Baylor? Or was that the week after? F#ck you.

Wow. Did you have to look that up in a thesaurus? Smack of the highest order. You can talk strength of schedule all day, it's pretty subjective, just like the rankings. After all, who in their right mind would've placed KU as a number 2 team in the country. I guess that makes your week at number one pretty ridiculous as well.

Lemme know how your application goes to the Big 12 Scheduling Team. You obviously are an intellectual giant that sees all and knows all.

Sorry, have to focus on work for awhile. Tim, I'm wondering if you can help me out here. I need to configure both the link-local addresses and the non-link-local addresses in DHCPv6. I know it uses Router Solicitation and Router Advertisment messages with peer neighborhood routers, but I just can't recall if, in Windows Server 2008, whether that is handled with Stateless or Stateful Address Autoconfiguration...

... oh nevermind, I remember now.

Until next time, here's a great big cup of your favorite brew, Sumatran Tropical Fruit Utopia... drink deep.

[Lzen]

Come on, take off the homer glasses. Neither KU or VT or MU would have ever gotten a whiff of the BCS in most years. It was the weakest top 10 in division 1 to end the season in decades.

To get there, Missouri had to lose to Oklahoma twice, WV had to lose to Pitt, USC had to lose to Stanford, if Texas hadn't had the bad loss to A&M they could conceivably have been there.

You can throw those dice all day long, but Yahtzee still is only going to come up every so often.


Fact - KU was BCS eligible in 2007.

None of the rest matters.


Of course we can all debate on whether MU deserved it more based on the season overall. I said more than once in the past threads on this subject that I agreed that MU probably did deserve it more. But the Orange Bowl selection committee obviously did not think that. The only thing that I can figure is that the way they got throttled big by OU made a big impression on the OB committee. Either that or our AD is more convincing than MU's AD. But to suggest that anything happened under the table is BS, bush league, cry baby nonsense.

Frankly as a KU fan, I would have been just as happy if KU went to the Cotton and MU went to the OB. It doesn't matter what you say about KU's non con schedule. The fact of the matter is that they beat the heck out of all of those teams and beat every team they played in conference with the exception of one. To knock that accomplishment is just ignorant.

BTW, I'm not sure what your point was by mentioning Texas but, Texas also lost at home by 20 points to a Kansas State team that finished 5-7. KU beat both of those teams (aTm & KSU) AT THEIR PLACES.

[Frazod]

Wow. Did you have to look that up in a thesaurus? Smack of the highest order. You can talk strength of schedule all day, it's pretty subjective, just like the rankings. After all, who in their right mind would've placed KU as a number 2 team in the country. I guess that makes your week at number one pretty ridiculous as well.

Lemme know how your application goes to the Big 12 Scheduling Team. You obviously are an intellectual giant that sees all and knows all.

Sorry, have to focus on work for awhile. Tim, I'm wondering if you can help me out here. I need to configure both the link-local addresses and the non-link-local addresses in DHCPv6. I know it uses Router Solicitation and Router Advertisment messages with peer neighborhood routers, but I just can't recall if, in Windows Server 2008, whether that is handled with Stateless or Stateful Address Autoconfiguration...

... oh nevermind, I remember now.

Until next time, here's a great big cup of your favorite brew, Sumatran Tropical Fruit Utopia... drink deep.

Aw, did I strike a nerve?

I could talk about some of legal issues that I work on that would baffle you, but I'm not that lame.

O to be in the presence of such great genious.... LMAO

[little jacob]

Fact - KU was BCS eligible in 2007.

None of the rest matters.

Yeah, that's what I meant, none of it mattered - for all the reasons I explained.


I think that Texas would have had an argument, they'd have been around #7 (the eventual #7 team was chosen over the #4 team), which was where KU finished I think, without that A&M loss. They beat a ranked team during the year which was more than KU could say. And their loss would have been a long time ago, whereas KU had lost the week before. And in the final strength of schedule rankings, Texas was at #46, while Kansas was still at #72 even after playing Missouri and VT.

And I think that, much the same as institutional bias played into KU getting the berth instead of Missouri, Texas would have benefited over Kansas.

[Reerun_KC]

But yet, ALL MU FANS are hanging on the KU victory as thier biggest accomplishment last year. IF KU were frauds and that is your biggest win, what does that make MU?

[PunkinDrublic]

Back to the original post. As an independent observer who is not a fan of MU or KU I would have to say that even if it were discovered that Arthur's grades were changed by the faculty at his high school I don't see how you could fault KU for that. KU recruited the guy seeing that he was legitimately eligible academicly to play. South Oak Cliff is a ghetto ass high school that has already been in trouble before for letting players play who were academicly ineligible so that's where the blame would lie IMO.

[Braincase]

Aw, did I strike a nerve?

I could talk about some of legal issues that I work on that would baffle you, but I'm not that lame.

O to be in the presence of such great genious.... LMAO

You're a lawyer? And to think I had a reasonable modicum of erspect for you. Why are you in this board? Shouldn't you be working to get your clients off death row?

I wonder which client is getting billed for this wasted hour.

[Braincase]

But yet, ALL MU FANS are hanging on the KU victory as thier biggest accomplishment last year. IF KU were frauds and that is your biggest win, what does that make MU?

COTTON BOWL CHAMPIONS!

[Reerun_KC]

COTTON BOWL CHAMPIONS!


Whats sad about this is, Most of us really dont care what MU does in football, I know I dont.

I am just thrilled when KU has a winning season and wins a bowl game... Yes the bigger the bowl the better the season. But for MU, they could fall off the planet and most of us wouldnt even know or really care...

Then again, who would we make fun of each year?

[Braincase]

Whats sad about this is, Most of us really dont care what MU does in football, I know I dont.

I am just thrilled when KU has a winning season and wins a bowl game... Yes the bigger the bowl the better the season. But for MU, they could fall off the planet and most of us wouldnt even know or really care...

Then again, who would we make fun of each year?

There's times I feel bad for the Mizzou fans, to be quite honest. Even when they win, they get screwed over by their own AD. They alumni deserve better than some ass-clown AD that won't cover the school's ass and have a backup plan.

I'm not going to fret about it too much. I start to feel bad for a moment, then a Mizzou fan calls me a cocksucker, and I pretty much get over it.

[little jacob]

But yet, ALL MU FANS are hanging on the KU victory as thier biggest accomplishment last year. IF KU were frauds and that is your biggest win, what does that make MU?

No, they won a bowl game... beating the Hawaii of the Big 12 is certainly not their biggest accomplishment in my opinion.

[Braincase]

No, they won a bowl game... beating the Hawaii of the Big 12 is certainly not their biggest accomplishment in my opinion.

Hawaii never won a basketball championship.

[Reerun_KC]

No, they won a bowl game... beating the Hawaii of the Big 12 is certainly not their biggest accomplishment in my opinion.
So what does Hawaii have to do with anything?

Last time I checked Hawaii wasnt in the Big12....

[Reerun_KC]

Hawaii never won a basketball championship.
Or a BCS game!

[little jacob]

Hawaii never won a basketball championship.

i thought we were talking about football, sorry.

[little jacob]

Or a BCS game!

if KU had drawn Georgia instead of VT, they wouldn't have won one either.

[Braincase]

if KU had drawn Georgia instead of VT, they wouldn't have won one either.

And if a chicken had a bill and webbed feet it would be a duck.

[Frazod]

You're a lawyer? And to think I had a reasonable modicum of erspect for you. Why are you in this board? Shouldn't you be working to get your clients off death row?

I wonder which client is getting billed for this wasted hour.

I'm not a lawyer, I'm a paralegal (as fAirY likes to point out, I'm unnejukaded, remember). And we don't do scumbags, we do real estate. High level commercial and industrial stuff. Generally, that would mean buildings taller and larger than anything you've seen lately, Kansas boy.

Hopefully reading this post didn't take too much time away from your Geek Squad duties.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Dear God.

Another thread that makes me wish that the towns of Lawrence and Columbia were nuked by accident.

The arrogant KU fans vs. the whining MU fans, Part Eleventy-Billion.

[Midnight_Vulture]

What part of IT DOESN'T MATTER don't you understand, dumbass?

If we lose by 3 or 30, it is IRRELEVANT, because we made it to that level and YOU DIDN'T.

What is this "level" that you speak of???

Look, I hate the Gayhawks as much as the next guy (actually I dont really hate them in football cause they are so irrelavent) but Misery did themselves NO favors when they got completely OWNED by the Sooners. All bets were off at that point and their BCS bid wasnt safe anymore. Sorry fat dude from Naperville, YOU FAIL.ROFL:deevee:

Oh and if you are actually expecting Misery to be playing in the National Title game this season, your hopes will be crushed in Week 1 when the Illini beat you guys. Sorry.

[kepp]

Wow, are we still talking about those forged grades?

[Frazod]

What is this "level" that you speak of???

Look, I hate the Gayhawks as much as the next guy (actually I dont really hate them in football cause they are so irrelavent) but Misery did themselves NO favors when they got completely OWNED by the Sooners. All bets were off at that point and their BCS bid wasnt safe anymore. Sorry fat dude from Naperville, YOU FAIL.ROFL:deevee:

Oh and if you are actually expecting Misery to be playing in the National Title game this season, your hopes will be crushed in Week 1 when the Illini beat you guys. Sorry.

Says the cherry-picking c#cksucker who roots for whoever wins.

Everything you say FAILS.

[Lzen]

Wow, are we still talking about those forged grades?

Nope. Some MU fan(s) turned it into a football discussion long ago.

[Midnight_Vulture]

Says the cherry-picking c#cksucker who roots for whoever wins.

Everything you say FAILS.

Then how come I root for the Chiefs fattie? OWNED

And I have connections to both Georgia and USC. I have mentioned them before and dont feel like explaining it again to your fatass sorry.

It will be so great to see Misery start the season 0-1.ROFL

[Braincase]

I'm not a lawyer, I'm a paralegal (as fAirY likes to point out, I'm unnejukaded, remember). And we don't do scumbags, we do real estate. High level commercial and industrial stuff. Generally, that would mean buildings taller and larger than anything you've seen lately, Kansas boy.

Hopefully reading this post didn't take too much time away from your Geek Squad duties.

Ooooh, aaaaaah. That might work on someone who hasn't worked in the ESB, WTC, Chrysler Building and the Sears Tower. Look up Aon, and check out my friend Greg Case. His office has a nice view there in Chicago.

They got pissed off at me when I did the chalk outline underneath the plexiglass floor of the CN Tower in Toronto, too.

I always found it funny whenever New York or Silicon Valley had to bring in some country boy from Kansas to teach people how to set up their servers.

Let me know when New York calls you to help 'em out with the legal ramifications of pay toilets. I got a conference call with Redmond.

[kepp]

It will be so great to see Misery start the season 0-1.ROFL

IL lost a starting DT for the year due to injury...that lowers their chances even more.

[Frazod]

Then how come I root for the Chiefs fattie? OWNED

And I have connections to both Georgia and USC. I have mentioned them before and dont feel like explaining it again to your fatass sorry.

It will be so great to see Misery start the season 0-1.ROFL

You root for the Chiefs? Really? I thought you just came here to show us all what a noxious degenerate punk you are. Silly me. It will be amusing to see what you say after Missouri continues it BCS-fraud unmasking tour with another victory against the overrated Illini. Assuming you even show.

[Frazod]

Ooooh, aaaaaah. That might work on someone who hasn't worked in the ESB, WTC, Chrysler Building and the Sears Tower. Look up Aon, and check out my friend Greg Case. His office has a nice view there in Chicago.

They got pissed off at me when I did the chalk outline underneath the plexiglass floor of the CN Tower in Toronto, too.

I always found it funny whenever New York or Silicon Valley had to bring in some country boy from Kansas to teach people how to set up their servers.

Let me know when New York calls you to help 'em out with the legal ramifications of pay toilets. I got a conference call with Redmond.

Hey, my internet's out at home. When will you be by to fix it?

[Braincase]

Hey, my internet's out at home. When will you be by to fix it?


I'm $200.00 per hour with a four hour minimum, + travel & expenses. One of the lawyers you step & fetch it for might be cheaper.

[Frazod]

I'm $200.00 per hour with a four hour minimum, + travel & expenses. One of the lawyers you step & fetch it for might be cheaper.

oooooooooh I really got the little IT fAggot's blood up now LMAO

[Braincase]

oooooooooh I really got the little IT Rump Rangergot's blood up now LMAO

Wow. Another deep homosexual reference. And here I thought you were trying to engage in a legitimate business transaction. Try again, Tim.

Rump ranger, cocksucker, what next? Going to call me a faggot next? And all the while claiming the intellectual high ground. There's junior high school kids with more creative smack.

Dig deep, and find something new. Your well has run dry. I fully expect your next slam to reach for the highest plateau... maybe you'll call me a "poopyhead" or "peedrinker".

Save it for the minor leagues.

LOL - I just saw the subtext - he did call me a ph@g. What a sorry excuse for an insult.

[Frazod]

Wow. Another deep homosexual reference. And here I thought you were trying to engage in a legitimate business transaction. Try again, Tim.

Rump ranger, one who sucks the penis, what next? Going to call me a ph@ggot next? And all the while claiming the intellectual high ground. There's junior high school kids with more creative smack.

Dig deep, and find something new. Your well has run dry. I fully expect your next slam to reach for the highest plateau... maybe you'll call me a "poopyhead" or "peedrinker".

Save it for the minor leagues.

BTW, if I (or anyone else) decide to call this Greg Case guy, what should I tell him? That some morally bankrupt KU geek is dropping his name on an internet bulletin board in a vain attempt to appear cool?

Does he have alot of friends who fit this description, or will he know it's you?

[Braincase]

BTW, if I (or anyone else) decide to call this Greg Case guy, what should I tell him? That some morally bankrupt KU geek is dropping his name on an internet bulletin board in a vain attempt to appear cool?

Does he have alot of friends who fit this description, or will he know it's you?

You'd never be able to get through to him. His gatekeepers know how to do their jobs. They'd write you off as some nutjob... kind of the same way alot of posters on here do.

Seriously, Tim, let it go. Like I've stated before, I like you - we have alot in common with other interests, and you're letting this get to you too much and too often. Hell, I got hurt by Lew Perkins worse than you ever did. I'm a Wichita State alum and former athlete from there, and Lew was the AD that cancelled WSU's football program. I understand why it had to be done, but I didn't like it. I live here in Lawrence, and my wife is tenured faculty at KU. I've aligned myself accordingly, and I'm having a pretty good time. I don't hate Missouri the way some alum do, but I'm not going to back down from an argument.

Let's just move on. You don't want to get an ulcer, and I'm tired of ... nope... that'd be just another unnecessary insult, and it's time for someone to walk away. We're both looking at the other guy as battered and bloody, and we're both probably looking a bit foolish in the eyes of the rest of the board.

I'm gonna let this one go. I'll move on. Hope you'll let it go too.

Cease fire is on.

[Frazod]

Whatever.

[Moobs]

Hey, my internet's out at home. When will you be by to fix it?

That takes balls for a secretary to say.

[Braincase]

That takes balls for a secretary to say.

Let's just drop it. The attacks were getting personal, and the last thing we need are things carrying over into get-togethers and stuff.

[Moobs]

Let's just drop it. The attacks were getting personal, and the last thing we need are things carrying over into get-togethers and stuff.

Sure man, I think you have taken the high road so I will respect that.

[Frazod]

That takes balls for a secretary to say.

Another comprehension challenged KUnt to play with. And I was afraid my day was going to get boring.

Bring it on, sweetheart.

[Lzen]

Eh, can't find the sig pic thread. I guess this is as good a place as any. :)

[little jacob]

Eh, can't find the sig pic thread. I guess this is as good a place as any. :)

do you really call the orange bowl a "championship"? ROFL

the championship was won by LSU

[Lzen]

do you really call the orange bowl a "championship"? ROFL

As long as it continues to bug you MU fans, yes. :D

[Pitt Gorilla]

Not so fast, my friends.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa081009_mo_disd.f94d1914.html

[irishjayhawk]

ROFL