How to beat a speeding ticket?

[Micjones]

Planeteers...

I got a traffic ticket this morning and I'm so uninterested in paying it.
Spare me the spiel, I know I'm soooo unpatriotic for trying to get out of it.

BUT...
Anyone ever purchased one of those books that tells you how to beat a traffic ticket? Any you could recommend?

[irishjayhawk]

You don't have boobs, right?

Well, you're screwed.

[jAZ]

First, be sure to show up. If the cop can't you win.

[booyaf2]

if you had a bike, you could of out ran them.
Buy a bike.

[Micjones]

I've seen a couple books online. I just don't want to waste any money...yet.

As time goes by and I get more desperate... I might just pull the trigger on it.
I was just hoping someone might have some personal experience I could draw from.

[irishjayhawk]

Depends on the situation of the ticket. Do you wanna elaborate?

[Micjones]

First, be sure to show up. If the cop can't you win.

I've heard that tickets often get thrown out in that scenario.
But I've also heard that doesn't always work.

I know in some instances they reschedule the court date when the officer cannot be present.

[Silock]

Don't speed. That will show them.

[Micjones]

Depends on the situation of the ticket. Do you wanna elaborate?

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...

[The Franchise]

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...

:banghead:

[Deberg_1990]

In the future, slow the F*ck down.

[Radar Chief]

First, be sure to show up. If the cop can't you win.

Correct. Secondly, ask to see a recent calibration of the radar unit and antennas, if not a hand held unit. If the officer shows up to court and can produce the proper certification, pay your fine.

[blueballs]

skin bleaching

[Micjones]

Don't speed. That will show them.

Damn. My disclaimer wasn't long enough.
I meant to tack on, "Please spare me the other bullshit spiel about how I should simply honor the posted speed limits. Speeding isn't heinous... I don't feel bad about it. Get off of your high horse O' keeper of the Traffic Laws. I also Jaywalk."

[mcan]

Go in and ask for the paperwork on the last time that radar gun was calibrated. If it's been more than a certain amount of time (which is almost always the case) you can have the ticket thrown out.


I've heard about this through a couple of different people now.

[irishjayhawk]

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...

You could always argue that the cop did not actually get your car. But then it's he said vs cop said and the cop always wins. A flaw, but the way it is nonetheless.

For future, though, you should ask to see the gun. I was caught going 13 over, he said. I know for a fact I wasn't. But he was "kind" and too it down to below 10, so it wasn't a high ticket. That was his "generosity".

[Demonpenz]

if the cop shows up ask him to provide currect records that his radar gun has been tested in calibrated every year. If they got you from the air I think you can call the pilot in who the person who was clocking up there and challenge is timing methods.

[Skip Towne]

Go in and ask for the paperwork on the last time that radar gun was calibrated. If it's been more than a certain amount of time (which is almost always the case) you can have the ticket thrown out.


I've heard about this through a couple of different people now.

A friend of mine did this and it worked.

[irishjayhawk]

Go in and ask for the paperwork on the last time that radar gun was calibrated. If it's been more than a certain amount of time (which is almost always the case) you can have the ticket thrown out.


I've heard about this through a couple of different people now.

That too.


It boils down to the gun. I've always wondered how more tickets aren't thrown out. He can scan the wrong car, peg the wrong person, and somehow they still get their money.

Oh, the downside to being an idealist.

[Micjones]

Ask for proof that the radar unit has been recently calibrated...

Someone told me the units are calibrated faithfully every 6 months.
But I'll definitely jot this one down.
Thanks.

[Simplex3]

Cities don't make money by letting you NOT pay. Don't waste your time on the books. Also, I wouldn't waste my time on the officer not showing up. The officer gave you the same court date he's passing out to every other snapperhead that he tickets for a reason: it's on his schedule to just sit in court on that day.

Additionally it's quite possible the date on your ticket is the day you're supposed to show up in court so that they can schedule your court date. That's what they did to me the one time I showed up to contest a ticket. They know full well that if they yank your chain long enough you'll give up and just give them the $.

I got a ticket for making an otherwise legal right turn because there was a sign (hidden behind construction barrels) that said no right turn on red. The prosecutor didn't give a damn and she knew the intersection like the back of her hand. Why? Because they make a ton of hay there. The cop even whipped a 2 point u-turn in the middle of a two lane street in front of oncoming traffic to make sure he could ticket me for dangerously pulling out into an empty intersection with no oncoming cars.

[Micjones]

You could always argue that the cop did not actually get your car. But then it's he said vs cop said and the cop always wins. A flaw, but the way it is nonetheless.

I've heard that kind of defense is routinely shot down in court.

[irishjayhawk]

I've heard that kind of defense is routinely shot down in court.

That was my point. A flaw, nonetheless.

[Radar Chief]

Go in and ask for the paperwork on the last time that radar gun was calibrated. If it's been more than a certain amount of time (which is almost always the case) you can have the ticket thrown out.


I've heard about this through a couple of different people now.

For most states the calibration is good for one year.
Some states, like Florida, require recalibration twice a year though.

[Micjones]

Cities don't make money by letting you NOT pay.

I know, but I figure there have to be loopholes somewhere to help me get by this one. People get off for serious crimes all the time. I don't feel bad for trying to beat a traffic ticket where no one was harmed. Especially not when I was only trying to get to work on time.

[Demonpenz]

There are so many of these song and dance ass rapings that happen in life. I ususally just pay the money just not to be hassled

[Silock]

Damn. My disclaimer wasn't long enough.
I meant to tack on, "Please spare me the other bullshit spiel about how I should simply honor the posted speed limits. Speeding isn't heinous... I don't feel bad about it. Get off of your high horse O' keeper of the Traffic Laws. I also Jaywalk."

I'm not on a high horse. I speed all the time.

I just don't bitch about it or try to dodge it if I get caught.

[Micjones]

There are so many of these song and dance ass rapings that happen in life. I ususally just pay the money just not to be hassled

I would, but that'll make my insurance premium higher and it's high enough already.

I thought about just doubling the fine amount and having it reduced, but I'd really like to do that as a last ditch effort to avoid the points and insurance spike.

[Simplex3]

I know, but I figure there have to be loopholes somewhere to help me get by this one. People get off for serious crimes all the time. I don't feel bad for trying to beat a traffic ticket where no one was harmed. Especially not when I was only trying to get to work on time.

You are getting off for serious crimes. No insurance and expired tags. Eat the turd and smile before they decide to press the issue.

[irishjayhawk]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if a picture taken on a cell phone of one's spedometer will get it thrown out. I mean, you see a speed trap, you take a picture of how fast you're going and you use that. Has anyone tried that?


Of course, the time I got caught, the cop was well hidden in darkness.

[irishjayhawk]

You are getting off for serious crimes. No insurance and expired tags. Eat the turd and smile before they decide to press the issue.

Whoa....

Where have you been? I hadn't seen you in a while.

[DaFace]

Cities don't make money by letting you NOT pay. Don't waste your time on the books. Also, I wouldn't waste my time on the officer not showing up. The officer gave you the same court date he's passing out to every other snapperhead that he tickets for a reason: it's on his schedule to just sit in court on that day.

Additionally it's quite possible the date on your ticket is the day you're supposed to show up in court so that they can schedule your court date. That's what they did to me the one time I showed up to contest a ticket. They know full well that if they yank your chain long enough you'll give up and just give them the $.

I got a ticket for making an otherwise legal right turn because there was a sign (hidden behind construction barrels) that said no right turn on red. The prosecutor didn't give a damn and she knew the intersection like the back of her hand. Why? Because they make a ton of hay there. The cop even whipped a 2 point u-turn in the middle of a two lane street in front of oncoming traffic to make sure he could ticket me for dangerously pulling out into an empty intersection with no oncoming cars.

Simplex suddenly appears for his bi-monthly post. :p

[Skip Towne]

Have I mentioned I hate cops?

[Micjones]

I'm not on a high horse. I speed all the time.

I just don't bitch about it or try to dodge it if I get caught.

But you make no bones about bitching if someone else is looking for advice on beating a ticket?

Gotcha.

Carry on. You must have one comfortable saddle Ranger.

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Planeteers...

I got a traffic ticket this morning and I'm so uninterested in paying it.
Spare me the spiel, I know I'm soooo unpatriotic for trying to get out of it.

BUT...
Anyone ever purchased one of those books that tells you how to beat a traffic ticket? Any you could recommend?

I think you should receive the DEATH PENALTY

[Simplex3]

Whoa....

Where have you been? I hadn't seen you in a while.

It takes a special thread to make me post. Like DaFace said, that happens about once every two months.

[Redrum_69]

Micjones...

bragging about trying to get out of a ticket on an internet chat board that may have ties to the police may not be your best way to try and weasel out of a ticket....

also..no insurance...expired tags..no seatbelt..and speeding...

be glad he didnt book you or slap you with a bigger fine.

on the other hand...i hope you go to the court, argue about the case, and then have to pay court and lawyer fees....then maybe you will learn to stfu

with all those things wrong, you should have had a concealed weapon, driving 17 mph over in a school zone, had porn in the vehicle, and open containers of alcohol..and some meth...

[Micjones]

You are getting off for serious crimes. No insurance and expired tags.

I have insurance Captain I-Don't-Know-What-I'm-Talking-About.
I just didn't have the card on me. That, sir, is not a crime last I checked.
The tags are expired by exactly 13 days. That was so heinous the cop didn't write me for it. That'll be taken care of tomorrow morning.

And thanks, but no thanks on eating the turd.
You're perfect example on why you shouldn't.

[Micjones]

Micjones...

bragging about trying to get out of a ticket on an internet chat board that may have ties to the police may not be your best way to try and weasel out of a ticket....

You're right. I'd hate for them to send that squad car to my job.
Come on. There's nothing illegal about looking for ways to beat a traffic ticket. My God... Are you guys serious?

on the other hand...i hope you go to the court, argue about the case, and then have to pay court and lawyer fees....then maybe you will learn to stfu

Tough guy talk on the Internet.
That's always cute.

I should thank my lucky stars he didn't write me for not having my insurance card on me. Oh and the 13 day expired tags? He could've bagged me right there for that one. The shame...

I told CP I didn't have my card and that my tags were expired.
I didn't have to. Again, I don't feel bad about that.

But maybe I should... After all, traffic citations are about safety.
:rolleyes:

[Mr. Laz]

Go in and ask for the paperwork on the last time that radar gun was calibrated. If it's been more than a certain amount of time (which is almost always the case) you can have the ticket thrown out.

ding ding ding

[Silock]

But you make no bones about bitching if someone else is looking for advice on beating a ticket?

Gotcha.

Carry on. You must have one comfortable saddle Ranger.

How is "Don't speed, that'll teach them" bitching?

It's a statement of fact, and one made facetiously, at that.

I don't know how to beat a speeding ticket because I've never done it and I've never tried.

[Simplex3]

I have insurance Captain I-Don't-Know-What-I'm-Talking-About.
I just didn't have the card on me. That, sir, is not a crime last I checked.

Not having proof of insurance is in fact a crime.

The tags are expired by exactly 13 days. That was so heinous the cop didn't write me for it. That'll be taken care of tomorrow morning.

And thanks, but no thanks on eating the turd.
You're perfect example on why you shouldn't.

Don't worry, the milk was only expired by 13 days, so it's cool. Expired is expired.

[Frazod]

Bring a lawyer with you who is a golfing buddy of the judge. Did it once and it worked to perfection.

As far as I know, that's the only way.

Other than that, get a good radar detector and know its limitations.

[Radar Chief]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if a picture taken on a cell phone of one's spedometer will get it thrown out. I mean, you see a speed trap, you take a picture of how fast you're going and you use that. Has anyone tried that?


Of course, the time I got caught, the cop was well hidden in darkness.

Does your cell phone have a time and date stamp on the pictures? One that can’t be tampered with or altered?
You’d then have to produce some form of documentation showing your speedometer is calibrated. OEM speedometers are typically an MPH or so off.
Those are just a couple of things I can think of off the top of my head.

[BigRedChief]

Planeteers...

I got a traffic ticket this morning and I'm so uninterested in paying it.
Spare me the spiel, I know I'm soooo unpatriotic for trying to get out of it.

BUT...
Anyone ever purchased one of those books that tells you how to beat a traffic ticket? Any you could recommend?
Just pay a layer $100.00 and he can reduce it to a defective equipment ticket. No points off your licesense.

[Iowanian]

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...

You'll be lucky if they use anal ease...you're so fooked.

[irishjayhawk]

Does your cell phone have a time and date stamp on the pictures? One that can’t be tampered with or altered?
You’d then have to produce some form of documentation showing your speedometer is calibrated. OEM speedometers are typically an MPH or so off.
Those are just a couple of things I can think of off the top of my head.

Yes to the time and date and that they can't be tampered with. The other is something they could get you on all the time with, I would think.

[Micjones]

How is "Don't speed, that'll teach them" bitching?

Gee I don't know...
I'm guessing the same way, "Hey guys, anybody know of a book I can purchase to help me beat a traffic ticket" is...

[Micjones]

Just pay a layer $100.00 and he can reduce it to a defective equipment ticket. No points off your licesense.

Is it just $100 or $100 plus the price of the ticket?

[Micjones]

Don't worry, the milk was only expired by 13 days, so it's cool. Expired is expired.

Thank you Captain Analogy Maker.
Thing is, it's not that big a deal. If it were... I would've been written for that too. I wasn't.

[Fairplay]

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...


No Sympathy here

Its people like you i want off the road.

[Iowanian]

Lawyer fee + price of fine, which is sometimes higher than the actual speeding ticket, but doesnt' give you points or count against your insurance.

You're lucky you didn't get the ticket for expired license and insurance card...those are doozies.

[Radar Chief]

Yes to the time and date and that they can't be tampered with. The other is something they could get you on all the time with, I would think.

You lost me on that second sentence.
But what I mean is if you’re taking a picture of your speedometer as proof that the speed the officer put on your ticket is inaccurate you need to have proof that your speedometer is then accurate.
Just FYI but police cars are supposed to have their speedometer calibrated so they can give out speeding tickets by “pacing”, or following you and measuring your speed by maintaining a constant distance.

[Micjones]

No Sympathy here

Its people like you i want off the road.

You're a regular boyscout I'm sure.

Thing is, I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm looking for advice.
If you have none to offer... Why bother posting?

Holier-than-thou bastard...

[Skip Towne]

Lawyer fee + price of fine, which is sometimes higher than the actual speeding ticket, but doesnt' give you points or count against your insurance.

You're lucky you didn't get the ticket for expired license and insurance card...those are doozies.

In Oklahoma, no insurance is a $214 fine and they suspend your license. It costs $350 to get re- instated. Wanna know how I know that?

[BigRedChief]

Is it just $100 or $100 plus the price of the ticket?
$100. plus the cost of the tickets.

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Can a mod please change the title of this thread to "I got caught on 4 violations, but the cop let me off on two of them, so I need to know how to get out of all of my wrong-doing completely"

[Micjones]

Lawyer fee + price of fine, which is sometimes higher than the actual speeding ticket, but doesnt' give you points or count against your insurance.

Cool. I'll keep that one tucked. That'll be my trump card if I can't figure anything else out. Thanks.

You're lucky you didn't get the ticket for expired license and insurance card...those are doozies.

The insurance card would've been thrown out anyway the day I showed up to court with the card. But I see your point.

[Micjones]

Can a mod please change the title of this thread to "I got caught on 4 violations, but the cop let me off on two of them, so I need to know how to get out of all of my wrong-doing completely"

Or better yet...

"I see an opportunity to pretend I'm better than another Human Being that got a traffic ticket today. Let me take 10 seconds off of the masturbating I had been doing to Internet goat sex to talk shit about that guy."

I'm sure it's hard to type with your dick in your hand...
So obviously you have better judgment than I do.
I commend you...

[irishjayhawk]

You lost me on that second sentence.
But what I mean is if you’re taking a picture of your speedometer as proof that the speed the officer put on your ticket is inaccurate you need to have proof that your speedometer is then accurate.
Just FYI but police cars are supposed to have their speedometer calibrated so they can give out speeding tickets by “pacing”, or following you and measuring your speed by maintaining a constant distance.

My second sentence was poorly worded. I meant that an uncalibrated speedometer could be an automatic loss for anyone protesting a ticket, couldn't it? Is that their ace in the hole?

EDIT: And do you know if that 1 MPH difference increases in time? Does my old ass car need to have it calibrated because it's off by 5 mph now?

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Or better yet...

"I see an opportunity to pretend I'm better than another Human Being that got a traffic ticket today. Let me take 10 seconds off of the masturbating I had been doing to Internet goat sex to talk shit about that guy."

That's be funnier if I had started the thread, but this doesn't work at all in the current context

Nice try though ... have fun with your losing your battle with this, lol

[Demonpenz]

I pay my tickets . Being a man means taking responsiblity for your actions

[Iowanian]

I've beaten a speeding ticket, representing myself, in court.

I did get lucky in that after I filed for a trial, the IA Supreme Court had a ruling about tickets not being notorized, so in addition, I had a law school friend help me write a motion to dismiss based on that ruling.

I intended to show up, and see if the cop did, which he didn't....and had documentation relating to calibration of the radar etc.....

I've also, in the past, made a call to the magistrate, explained that I travel a lot for work and while I made the mistake in speeding(come clean in this approach), I'd be happy to pay a fine to accept punishment, but would appreciate leniency by calling it an equipment violation(broken windhield or something).

I've also slowed my ass down, now that I'm older....

[Fairplay]

You're a regular boyscout I'm sure.

Thing is, I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm looking for advice.
If you have none to offer... Why bother posting?

Holier-than-thou bastard...



You look up to Midnight_Vulture don't you.

Losers, stick with their own kind.

[Micjones]

That's be funnier if I had started the thread, but this doesn't work at all in the current context

If you say so, Albert.

Nice try though ... have fun with your losing your battle with this, lol

Got me over a barrel there...
Worse-case scenario I pay $160 and it goes away.
The horror.

[Skip Towne]

Logical had some cockamamie scheme whereby he sent them a check for more than the fine. Somehow that was supposed to screw up their books and the case stayed open forever. PM him for details. He says it works.

[Micjones]

I pay my tickets . Being a man means taking responsiblity for your actions

Being a man in my mind involves being a responsible gainfully employed parent.

If I had committed armed robbery I'd be perfectly willing to own that responsibility. This is a speeding ticket. A speeding ticket DP. I'm sorry... I just don't feel bad about it. If that makes me less of a man in your mind... So be it.

[irishjayhawk]

Logical had some cockamamie scheme whereby he sent them a check for more than the fine. Somehow that was supposed to screw up their books and the case stayed open forever. PM him for details. He says it works.

LMAO

Does that really work?

Seriously, that may be the best retelling of a scheme I've heard.

[Iowanian]

It isn't the $160 that is going to perferate your colon....its when your insurance company finds out...more than 10 over will beat you until the white meat shows.

[Iowanian]

Logical had some cockamamie scheme whereby he sent them a check for more than the fine. Somehow that was supposed to screw up their books and the case stayed open forever. PM him for details. He says it works.

Tried it.....it doesn't work if they just cash the check.

[crazycoffey]

It takes a special thread to make me post. Like DaFace said, that happens about once every two months.


hey stranger....

[Micjones]

You look up to Midnight_Vulture don't you.

Losers, stick with their own kind.

You just don't know when to stop with the self-righteousness...
Fair enough... Carry on. The world needs more of you.

[Demonpenz]

I just don't understand. You were going over the speed limit, you broke a law, pay your fine, or try to change the speed limit in that area if you disagree with the law

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Got me over a barrel there...
Worse-case scenario I pay $160 and it goes away.
The horror.

Then just pay it and quit bitching Ixtlan

[Micjones]

It isn't the $160 that is going to perferate your colon....its when your insurance company finds out...more than 10 over will beat you until the white meat shows.

To be sure. That's why I'm looking for an alternative.

[Iowanian]

I've found more success over the years in being civilized to the cop(if they're not a cockwithears) and saying something like.

"Officer, I'm sure feeling terrible about not wearing this seatbelt"....and taking that fine instead of the speeding ticket.

A traffic stop is a negotiation.

When I've been stopped, I've been let off 2-3 times when they asked me why I was in such a hurry when I told them I was fighting off a shit attack. Anyone who spends significant time on the road, will sympathise with a case of the green apple splatters.

[Demonpenz]

if you are on the road alot try to empty out your pee bottle too, preferably not on the boots of the policeman

[Micjones]

I just don't understand. You were going over the speed limit, you broke a law, pay your fine, or try to change the speed limit in that area if you disagree with the law

And I don't understand why it's so foreign that a citizen challenge a speeding ticket? It's perfectly legal. And people contest much more serious crimes everyday.

Why I should feel bad for being a party to helping some cop achieve a quota while unsolved crimes abound in Kansas City... Is beyond me.

[Skip Towne]

I'm guessing this deal is going to cost you about $300. More if the judge is pissed off.

[Micjones]

Then just pay it and quit bitching Ixtlan

Only if you'll quit being a self-righteous dickhead looking for an opportunity to bump his gums about another poster. Deal?

[Micjones]

I'm guessing this deal is going to cost you about $300. More if the judge is pissed off.

$300 sounds a lot better than $160 and a monthly increase of my insurance for at least another year.

[Demonpenz]

And I don't understand why it's so foreign that a citizen challenge a speeding ticket? It's perfectly legal. And people contest much more serious crimes everyday.

Why I should feel bad for being a party to helping some cop achieve a quota while unsolved crimes abound in Kansas City... Is beyond me.

What's legal and what is right are two different things. I am not telling you feel bad. I am explaining the fact that you can't even own up to a simple speeding ticket, it's going to be hard for anyone to take your debates seriously.

[Iowanian]

Why I should feel bad for being a party to helping some cop achieve a quota while unsolved crimes abound in Kansas City... Is beyond me.


To be fair to the flip side, if you weren't driving 17mph over the speed limit, with no seat belt, expired registration and no insurance....he wouldn't have had a reason to stop you, and might have more time to crime fight.

[little jacob]

seems like there was another long discussion about how to beat the rap for a crime the person did not long ago here.. dont think much of the law around these parts...

[Micjones]

What's legal and what is right are two different things. I am not telling you feel bad. I am explaining the fact that you can't even own up to a simple speeding ticket, it's going to be hard for anyone to take your debates seriously.

I'm confused. I don't deny that I was speeding.
I never did. I'm simply trying to mitigate the damage it will do me.
That's legal as well, no?

If someone in this forum can't understand that...
They won't take my commentary seriously anyway.

[DeezNutz]

17 over in what speed zone?

[Skip Towne]

What's legal and what is right are two different things. I am not telling you feel bad. I am explaining the fact that you can't even own up to a simple speeding ticket, it's going to be hard for anyone to take your debates seriously.

I wouldn't pay those pricks unless I absolutey had to. They should get a job like everyone else.

[Micjones]

To be fair to the flip side, if you weren't driving 17mph over the speed limit, with no seat belt, expired registration and no insurance....he wouldn't have had a reason to stop you, and might have more time to crime fight.

He was already out in pursuit of the clandestine speeders.
My heavy foot didn't put him there. Gimme a break.

[Iowanian]

Sounds to me like the dude already gave you 2 breaks.

[Micjones]

17 over in what speed zone?

35mph zone I believe.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Is it just $100 or $100 plus the price of the ticket?

I used a traffic lawyer once and it cost me about $260 all said and done. It's the cost of the lawyer, as well as the fine, which will likely be higher because of the plea.

[DeezNutz]

35mph zone I believe.

You were hauling ass.

[dirk digler]

As a former deputy my recommendation is pay a lawyer to get it reduced or just pay the fine.

Also not having your insurance card is not illegal as long as you can produce it in a certain amount of time. Most cops usually give you 24 hrs or less.

[Micjones]

Sounds to me like the dude already gave you 2 breaks.

So I shouldn't seek further mitigation of the damages?

[Demonpenz]

I'm confused. I don't deny that I was speeding.
I never did. I'm simply trying to mitigate the damage it will do me.
That's legal as well, no?

If someone in this forum can't understand that...
They won't take my commentary seriously anyway.


Taking responsibily for your actions means also not dodging the consequences. I don't care about BB or not. It's hard to look a man in the eyes if he doesn't own up to his actions and accept what happens.

[Micjones]

You were hauling ass.

I was. Trying to get to work. I knew I should've taken my normal route.

[Skip Towne]

I'd become a cop except I'm not qualified. My parents were married.

[Micjones]

Taking responsibily for your actions means also not dodging the consequences.

Which side are you arguing DP?
You just told me there was a difference between what is legal and what is right.

If it is in fact legal for me to fight the traffic ticket what's the problem?

It's hard to look a man in the eyes if he doesn't own up to his actions and accept what happens.

If you can't look a man in his eye who doesn't want to pay a traffic ticket you're self-righteous and shouldn't look a man in his eye anyway...

[Micjones]

As a former deputy my recommendation is pay a lawyer to get it reduced or just pay the fine.

Thanks Dirk.

[Redrum_69]

I'd become a cop except I'm not qualified. My parents were married.

:LOL:

[Fire Me Boy!]

$300 sounds a lot better than $160 and a monthly increase of my insurance for at least another year.

What county are you in? Just FYI, there are counties in the KC metro that will not... repeat: WILL NOT... deal with you unless you have a lawyer.

[Micjones]

What county are you in? Just FYI, there are counties in the KC metro that will not... repeat: WILL NOT... deal with you unless you have a lawyer.

Really? I didn't know that.

I live in Jackson County.

[Demonpenz]

Which side are you arguing DP?
You just told me there was a difference between what is legal and what is right.

If it is in fact legal for me to fight the traffic ticket what's the problem?



If you can't look a man in his eye who doesn't want to pay a traffic ticket you're self-righteous and shouldn't look a man in his eye anyway...

I guess I am just old school. In my day we did deals with a handshake and some coffee. Different times I suppose

[Micjones]

I guess I am just old school. In my day we did deals with a handshake and some coffee. Different times I suppose

You're backtracking now.

You just said there was a difference between what is right and what is legal.
Legally, I have every right to fight this ticket. There's nothing at all wrong with observing and applying that right.

You're trying to appeal to my moral sensibilities and while I understand...
That requires no failures of your own.

First-stone throwers bug the shit out of me. I suppose as much as people who try to mitigate the damages for mistakes they admit to.

[BigRedChief]

Taking responsibily for your actions means also not dodging the consequences. I don't care about BB or not. It's hard to look a man in the eyes if he doesn't own up to his actions and accept what happens.
So I was wrong to pay the lawyer $100.00 to keep the speeding ticket off my record? Even though its perfectly legal? Not a loophole etc.

[Micjones]

So I was wrong to pay the lawyer $100.00 to keep the speeding ticket off my record? Even though its perfectly legal? Not a loophole etc.

According to his logic, yes.

[little jacob]

people speed everywhere they go every day. i myself speed everywhere i go from 5 to 10mph. however, i have never had an accident in all the years i have been driving. i'm a safe driver. but every 3 or so years when i get a ticket i dont complain that i dont deserve it or try to squirm. its just the cost of doing business.

[Demonpenz]

You're backtracking now.

You just said there was a difference between what is right and what is legal.
Legally, I have every right to fight this ticket. There's nothing at all wrong with observing and applying that right.

You're trying to appeal to my moral sensibilities and while I understand...
That requires no failures of your own.

First-stone throwers bug the shit out of me. I suppose as much as people who try to mitigate the damages for mistakes they admit to.

I will backtrack all the way. I love a chiefsplanet dog pile so I couldn't resist, the words were more what I believe in, not what I want you to believe in. Then when I get cornered I just go into joking. In short, do what you want have a good one.

[BIG_DADDY]

Don't speed. That will show them.


I'm not on a high horse. I speed all the time.

I just don't bitch about it or try to dodge it if I get caught.


How is "Don't speed, that'll teach them" bitching?

It's a statement of fact, and one made facetiously, at that.

I don't know how to beat a speeding ticket because I've never done it and I've never tried.


Quick somebody pay attention to this little douche before he spontaneously combusts.

[Redrum_69]

micjones failed to mention he was speeding because he had pitbulls in his car and going to a fight

[Micjones]

people speed everywhere they go every day. i myself speed everywhere i go from 5 to 10mph. however, i have never had an accident in all the years i have been driving. i'm a safe driver. but every 3 or so years when i get a ticket i dont complain that i dont deserve it or try to squirm. its just the cost of doing business.

So, if I'm clear...
You speed regularly (I can't say the same), but I should feel bad for wanting out of the traffic ticket?

[Micjones]

micjones failed to mention he was speeding because he had pitbulls in his car and going to a fight

Right...

Because that's what someone doing more serious illegal activity would want to do. Bring attention to himself.

;)

[Valiant]

Hire a lawyer..

You are not smart enough on your own or with a book to beat it..

[Micjones]

Hire a lawyer..

You are not smart enough on your own or with a book to beat it..

I'm smart enough to know that an ellipsis is three dots and not two.
:thumb:

You might wanna research that before you go throwing intelligence jabs next time.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Really? I didn't know that.

I live in Jackson County.

I'm not sure about Cass or Jackson. My wife had tickets in both, and one of the two would not deal. I'm pretty sure it was Cass. I think Jackson will.

[Demonpenz]

I'm smart enough to know that an ellipsis is three dots and not two.
:thumb:

You might wanna research that before you go throwing intelligence jabs next time.


Self rightous men throw the first elipse

[Micjones]

I'm not sure about Cass or Jackson. My wife had tickets in both, and one of the two would not deal. I'm pretty sure it was Cass. I think Jackson will.

Thanks FMB.

[Micjones]

Self rightous men throw the first elipse

I'm self-righteous to defend myself too?
You're a piece of work DP.
:p

[jidar]

Damn. My disclaimer wasn't long enough.
I meant to tack on, "Please spare me the other bullshit spiel about how I should simply honor the posted speed limits. Speeding isn't heinous... I don't feel bad about it. Get off of your high horse O' keeper of the Traffic Laws. I also Jaywalk."

What about our high horse that has us keep our tags up to date, insurance and our seatbelts on?
Actually at this point I'm gonna go ahead and get on a high horse just for not being generally as dumb as you.

[Micjones]

What about our high horse that has us keep our tags up to date, insurance and our seatbelts on?

I let my tag renewal get away from me and I didn't have my seatbelt on.
I should be locked away.

Surely you've never done anything remotely as heinous as those two things.
You deserve a medal.

Actually at this point I'm gonna go ahead and get on a high horse just for not being generally as dumb as you.

Now how are you planning to ride your high and smug horses at the same time? Surely you'll have to leave one behind...

Prick.

[Demonpenz]

I'm self-righteous to defend myself too?
You're a piece of work DP.
:p

i was kiding :)

[Micjones]

i was kiding :)

I know. Hence my emoticon.

[Demonpenz]

I know, but I can't look in a man's eye unless he matches emicon per emicon

[Micjones]

I know, but I can't look in a man's eye unless he matches emicon per emicon

Mine was better than yours.

[Redrum_69]

how to get out of a ticket?

Dont show up to the court...

Dont pay the ticket...

Move to another state....or country (which would be best)

think about this...if you moved to another country..you dont have to worry about insurance, licenses, tags...i mean you are already living that lifestyle..imagine doing it LEGAL

[Micjones]

how to get out of a ticket?

Dont show up to the court...

Dont pay the ticket...

Move to another state....or country (which would be best)

think about this...if you moved to another country..you dont have to worry about insurance, licenses, tags...i mean you are already living that lifestyle..imagine doing it LEGAL

Could you be anymore dramatic sweetheart?

I have insurance for the fourth time dipshit.
The tags will be rectified tomorrow.

If you could pull your head out for two minutes you'd realize how pitiful this attempt at shaming me is.

Quit throwing rocks. I'm guessing your house isn't built to withstand them.

[|Zach|]

I've found more success over the years in being civilized to the cop


Yes, probably talked my way out of 4 or 5.

But I don't speed so since I have moved to KC. Just tried to be more laid back on the road. It is a good thing.

[Micjones]

Funny thing is... I've been doing the same thing for quite some time.
It's just today I wanted to be sure I was at work on time.
I got a little carried away.

[|Zach|]

Also, when I ask people for advice I try not to be a total prick but ya know...everyone has their own way of going about things.

[Redrum_69]

"My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me. "


so do you or do you not have insurance?

i mean really, who doesnt carry their insurance card with them..

[Micjones]

Also, when I ask people for advice I try not to be a total prick but ya know...everyone has their own way of going about things.

I was kind to everyone who offered advice.

If I was supposed to kiss the ass of people with disparaging comments I'm sorry I missed that memo.

[irishjayhawk]

Also, when I ask people for advice I try not to be a total prick but ya know...everyone has their own way of going about things.

That's not true. People ask you for political advice and all you do is post FACT.

Ass.


:p

[Micjones]

so do you or do you not have insurance?

You're kidding, right?
I've said at least a half-dozen times that I have insurance.
I simply don't have the card in my wallet.

i mean really, who doesnt carry their insurance card with them..

I guess only Nazi's like me...

Seriously, that's fairly commonplace.
Is it a crime that I don't have the little White card in my wallet too?

[|Zach|]

That's not true. People ask you for political advice and all you do is post FACT.

Ass.


:p

Fact.

[|Zach|]

I was kind to everyone who offered advice.

If I was supposed to kiss the ass of people with disparaging comments I'm sorry I missed that memo.

Who says you were supposed to kiss anyone's ass. Link?

Disparaging comments on Chiefs Planet. You were so blindsided in this thread.

[Redrum_69]

You're kidding, right?
I've said at least a half-dozen times that I have insurance.
I simply don't have the card in my wallet.



I guess only Nazi's like me...

Seriously, that's fairly commonplace.
Is it a crime that I don't have the little White card in my wallet too?



so do you have insurance today?

[penguinz]

Y
Is it a crime that I don't have the little White card in my wallet too?Actually it is illegal to drive without PROOF of insurance.

[Micjones]

Who says you were supposed to kiss anyone's ass. Link?

You in so many words.

If you've been paying attention you'd know that I thanked everyone for real advice that wasn't smug and moralistic.

[Micjones]

so do you have insurance today?

Hello?
Yes... How many times do I have to say that?

[biggunns]

Kill yourself.....:thumb:

[Redrum_69]

Hello?
Yes... How many times do I have to say that?



will you have insurance tomorrow too?

[Micjones]

will you have insurance tomorrow too?

Nah, I've got a special kind of insurance.
I'm only covered every other day.

[Micjones]

Kill yourself.....:thumb:

Eloquent.

[Redrum_69]

Nah, I've got a special kind of insurance.
I'm only covered every other day.

will you have insurance all next week?

[Micjones]

will you have insurance all next week?

Not sure yet.
I'll keep you posted though.

[Redrum_69]

Not sure yet.
I'll keep you posted though.

how bout next month...will you have insurance then?

[blueballs]

Do you have any idea what speeding does to the price of gas
-feeling left out

[Micjones]

how bout next month...will you have insurance then?

I usually let it lapse during football season.

[Redrum_69]

I usually let it lapse during football season.

how bout next year? will you have insurance then?

[Micjones]

how bout next year? will you have insurance then?

What's next year?

[Redrum_69]

What's next year?

does your mom have car insurance?

[Rausch]

How to beat a speeding ticket.

Did survey say tits and tears yet?

I'm going with tits and tears...

[dorseybowe]

1) Pull over very quickly
2) Roll down the window
3) Make sure your seatbelt in on
4) Turn off the car and throw the keys on the dashboard
5) Get out your license and registration
6) Hold each in a hand and rest your hands on the steering wheel (so he can see your hands)
7) Don't talk unless your are spoken to

[Lzen]

Does your cell phone have a time and date stamp on the pictures? One that can’t be tampered with or altered?
You’d then have to produce some form of documentation showing your speedometer is calibrated. OEM speedometers are typically an MPH or so off.
Those are just a couple of things I can think of off the top of my head.

Yeah, they typically show that you are going a mile or two faster than you really are.

[Redrum_69]

micjones was given a ticket
and to the courthouse he'll picket
a little warning to the wise
became this threads demise
and like all his threads all I hear is a cricket

[Lzen]

Is there a petition somewhere for the death penalty that I can sign?

[Micjones]

micjones was given a ticket
and to the courthouse he'll picket
a little warning to the wise
became this threads demise
and like all his threads all I hear is a cricket

wa wa wa waaaaa....

[Redrum_69]

wa wa wa waaaaa....

your mom was the subject at hand
for shes like the trumpet in a band
everyone gets a blow
because dont you know
with lips that big who needs to be fanned

[Micjones]

your mom was the subject at hand
for shes like the trumpet in a band
everyone gets a blow
because dont you know
with lips that big who needs to be fanned

Wocka wocka.

Don't quit your dayjob.

[BigRedChief]

Wocka wocka.

Don't quit your dayjob.
We should see a FAX vs. Micjones smack down with their limmerick talents.

[Fairplay]

I don't know how redrum comes up with all these rhymes.

Its funny though.

[Micjones]

We should see a FAX vs. Micjones smack down with their limmerick talents.

That'd be no contest.

[Skip Towne]

I don't know how redrum comes up with all these rhymes.

Its funny though.

Brain tumor?

[Skip Towne]

Yeah, they typically show that you are going a mile or two faster than you really are.

Depends on the size of your tires.

[Redrum_69]

Brain tumor?


thats nothing to joke about....

seriously

you have to have a brain first

[Redrum_69]

That'd be no contest.


you should make preparations and leave
no insurance and bad tags..hard to believe
this time use the bus
that way we dont hear you fuss
and happiness we all will achieve

[Micjones]

you should make preparations and leave
no insurance and bad tags..hard to believe
this time use the bus
that way we dont hear you fuss
and happiness we all will achieve

Next time I should help with your rhyme
Too wordy with your second line
You think that you're funny
But "no" for my money
Leaving writing the limericks behind

[Radar Chief]

Yeah, they typically show that you are going a mile or two faster than you really are.

Yup.

Depends on the size of your tires.

Sure, that'll change your speedometer reading.

[Redrum_69]

...

drop the quotes like a lyrical rapper
you'll be as shiny as a brand new gum wrapper
when this seasons a bust
wipe off all of the dust
so we can all lust for your moms worthless snapper

[Micjones]

drop the quotes like a lyrical rapper
you'll be as shiny as a brand new gum wrapper
when this seasons a bust
wipe off all of the dust
so we can all lust for your moms worthless snapper

Your limerick writing is weak
You're not good enough to compete
My mother is tough
If you ever met up
Five bucks she would slap you to sleep

[Demonpenz]

*siren* BRRRRRR <<*>> someone just got served

[Redrum_69]

Your limerick writing is weak
You're not good enough to compete
My mother is tough
If you ever met up
Five bucks she would slap you to sleep




why do you post regurjitation?
you should worry about your litigation
but just like your life
your mom and your wife
agree that youre just your dads wasted masterbation

[Micjones]

why do you post regurjitation?
you should worry about your litigation
but just like your life
your mom and your wife
agree that youre just your dads wasted masterbation

Your limericks are terribly plain
Despite that fact you sustain
Your mother was dumb
The cum missed her tongue
You should've wound up as a stain

[Micjones]

why do you post regurjitation?
you should worry about your litigation
but just like your life
your mom and your wife
agree that youre just your dads wasted masterbation

Good one. The ending words changed three times.
:clap:

[BigRedChief]

Your limericks are terribly plain
Despite that fact you sustain
Your mother was dumb
The cum missed her tongue
You should've wound up as a stain
Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!

[Valiant]

I let my tag renewal get away from me and I didn't have my seatbelt on.
I should be locked away.

Surely you've never done anything remotely as heinous as those two things.
You deserve a medal.



Now how are you planning to ride your high and smug horses at the same time? Surely you'll have to leave one behind...

Prick.

Maybe you can just claim racism?? You seem to be a douche of that level..

[Micjones]

Maybe you can just claim racism?? You seem to be a douche of that level..

With time to think...
That's all you could come up with?

Shameful.

[Skip Towne]

With time to think...
That's all you could come up with?

Shameful.

Redrum's limericks are better than yours.

[Micjones]

Redrum's limericks are better than yours.

Damn.

Perhaps you could hop onto my scrotum and tell me whose nuts are a more comfortable ride too?

[Skip Towne]

Damn.

Perhaps you could hop onto my scrotum and tell me whose nuts are a more comfortable ride too?

He's smarter than you too.

[Micjones]

He's smarter than you too.

Haha...

What comes next?
Na na na boo boo?

I can smell his manhood on your breath.

[Skip Towne]

Haha...

What comes next?
Na na na boo boo?

I can smell his manhood on your breath.

better looking too

[Micjones]

better looking too

*Dies*

Stop man-crushing for a second will ya?

[banyon]

Is this ticket in KC MO Municipal Court?

[Micjones]

Is this ticket in KC MO Municipal Court?

Yeah, should be.

[banyon]

Yeah, should be.

You need to make sure, because that could make a HUGE difference.

If you're in one of these municipalities like Lee's Summit or Raytown or something, then they might listen to someone argue about radar. KCMO doesn't have the time or inclination to listen to that as they have too many cases. They'll just say "shut up" and "next please" in all likelihood.

Also, a lot of tickets have a space where the cop can mark the way he got your speed. Is radar checked? Sometimes they use LIDAR (lasers) which is very different, or sometimes they just pace you.

Lastly, I would echo one of the earlier posters' points about pressing your luck. If you set this up for trial and force the cop to take this time out of his day, then he may just remember that part about your expired tags and pass that information to the prosecutor who can amend the charges. And that's a charge that is next to impossible to get out of (either your registration was current or it wasn't).

[jjchieffan]

When I get a ticket, I always just go to court. Usually, the prosecuter offers to reduce it to a non points violation or something like that. Whatever they do, it never shows up on my record the next time, and best of all, my insurance goes up. I usually end up paying $20-$40 for the reduced charge

[banyon]

When I get a ticket, I always just go to court. Usually, the prosecuter offers to reduce it to a non points violation or something like that. Whatever they do, it never shows up on my record the next time, and best of all, my insurance goes up. I usually end up paying $20-$40 for the reduced charge

I standardly offer double the fine + court costs for a dismissal on non-serious traffic offenses. This is unless you are a frequent enough violator that I know tho you are, or you're a gang banging douchebag.

[Skip Towne]

I standardly offer double the fine + court costs for a dismissal on non-serious traffic offenses. This is unless you are a frequent enough violator that I know tho you are, or you're a gang banging douchebag.

Have you ever lost a case while in Dodge City?

[banyon]

Have you ever lost a case while in Dodge City?

No.

I do have some pretty friendly juries though. They like to convict people. If I was in Wyandotte or something, it'd be a lot tougher (they no likee the cops there).

[Skip Towne]

No.

I do have some pretty friendly juries though. They like to convict people. If I was in Wyandotte or something, it'd be a lot tougher (they no likee the cops there).

There was a black guy who was a prosecutor out in one of those western counties. He came back to Neosho county and ran for county attorney and won. He claimed to have a 100% conviction rate. My attorney laughed and said "we'll see". The dude only lasted one term.

[jjchieffan]

I standardly offer double the fine + court costs for a dismissal on non-serious traffic offenses. This is unless you are a frequent enough violator that I know tho you are, or you're a gang banging douchebag.

I generally get one speeding ticket every yeay or two, except when I was living in Ozark, MO and got caught in 3 speed traps in a year. I was really glad to get out of those.

[ohiobronco2]

Cop didn't cite you for not having your insurance card or having expired tags? I'd count my blessings and just pay the damn ticket. In order to come up with the necessary funds, you could sell some of that Spike Lee porn that you have. Can't imagine you could make any money donating sperm, that is unless you can make an arrangement with Claythan.

[007]

First, be sure to show up. If the cop can't you win.

Depends on the city. The cop didn't show up for my wifes ticket and the friggen judge required her to reschedule or accept the ticket. I was pissed.

[wutamess]

$300 sounds a lot better than $160 and a monthly increase of my insurance for at least another year.

$225-$250 or so is what you'll be spending to get it reduced to a non-moving violation.
I can get you my lawyers #. Couple of years ago I waited to attempt to fight ti in court in Raytown but at the very end I negotiated with a lawyer standing around to get my ticket reduced. That's probably your best bet. Just ask one of them with a briefcase if they want to help you out. Don't take the first price thrown you can negotiate or get a continuance. I'd never risk it by myself. That's 3 years of a higher premium. To hell with that.

Before I totaled my car a couple of years ago, I used to spend almost $1000/year paying my lawyer to keep those tickets off my record.

2001 around my marriage time, I think I got 3 tickets in the span of 2 weeks or so.

~Knock on wood. Been slowing my ass down. Plus I don't drive that much.
One perk for the high cost of gas... less driving... less chances of getting caught speeding.

[wutamess]

I will backtrack all the way. I love a chiefsplanet dog pile so I couldn't resist, the words were more what I believe in, not what I want you to believe in. Then when I get cornered I just go into joking. In short, do what you want have a good one.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

[dred]

I just found out a really slick way you can get out of a speeding ticket.

Buddy of mine slid his bike off the road last week while riding with another friend. They call me up to come over with the trailer to haul the bike back.

While I am driving over to pick them up, the super cool cop (who also rides) started showing my friends how to use the radar.

He pointed it at another cop car that was sitting still and it showed 19 mph.

Why do you ask?

The fan!

I guess the fan on the front of some cars will register an additional 19 mph on TOP of the speed you are going in some cases where the cop hasn't calibrated their radars. (There is no way to prove whether they have calibrated it or not from what I am told).

So remember folks.... if you are trying to get out of a nasty speeding ticket, try the 19 mph rule.

:D

[RibKing67]

I did not read the whole thread but if it has not been mentioned, it will still cost you money but you can have a lawyer get it reduced to a non moving violation thus keeping your insurance down and not having points on your license. Just a thought cause I dont see you getting out of it free.

[Gary]

Be careful contesting tickets. I have a few speeding tickets in my past (one for like 35 over the limit). I had a pre-paid legal plan at my last job, & they provided a lawyer to go to court for me to get a ticket reduced. The lawyer assured me the worst case scenario would be to pay the fine & get a 4 hour driving school to eliminate the points on my license. The judge decided to review my entire driving record & ordered me to pay the fine & go to a 12 hour driving school. I could have done the 4 hour driving school online at home. The 12 hour driving school was held at a shitty hotel from 9am to 9pm. Be careful!

[Gary]

I also received a ticket while going through McPherson county. The cop scheduled my court date on May 1st. I went to the court house only to find out they were closed for May Day. I called the prosecutor to hash it out & he told me to basically pound sand. He said that McPherson county hadn't reduced or thrown out a ticket in the 11 or so years he had been prosecutor.

[Redrum_69]

better looking too



and I carry my car insurance in my wallet...

[PastorMikH]

Got my first ticket in 22 years today and I'm still a bit miffed about it.

I pull off the highway in the neigboring town and start down main street. As I pass by the local police station I wave nicely at an officer pulling out. I go a few blocks, main street does a 90 degree and heads east. A few seconds after I follow the bend in the road, I notice I don't see the cop anymore in my mirrors so I figured he turned off and headed to the local college. I go another block to block and a half and since the business I need to stop in at is on the left a couple more blocks down, I figure that since there isn't any traffic on this particular stretch, I'll go ahead and change lanes. I turn on my turn signal and notice the speedometer, 19-20 mph in a 25. I checked my door mirror and the little extra mirror stuck in on corner of it. I check the rearview mirror. Everything looks clear so I look in my door mirrors again and start to change lanes then notice the police car and quickly straighten back out. I had not seen the guy for 1 and 1/2 blocks because he was running in my blindspot pacing me for 1-2 blocks. Also, upon further reflection, I recall seeing the center line marks in my rearview mirror when I noticed him and where he was at in the road (which was the oncoming lane's side of the dividing line.

I wave at him and say sorry as he heads past me, then he decides to slow down, get behind me and pull me over. He approaches the vehichle and I again tell him (politely and respectfully) I was sorry and that I did not see him and that he must have been in my blind spot because I had checked my mirrors and signaled well before actually starting over. He takes my license and insurance card, heads back to his car and I'm thinking he's probably just running tags or something. But then he comes out and tells me he's giving me a citation for unsafe lane change, hands me the ticket to sign, then gives me an envelope and tells me I can just mail the amount on the back of the ticket in if I want. Nope, I got an invitation to court, I may as well be there and make them actually have to process my appearance.

Talked to a buddy that used to be a local here and he told me it was basically my word against the officers so I was pretty much out of luck. he did suggest me going to court though and pleading no contest, tell my story and ask the judge for consideration of dismissal, defferement or at least keeping it off my record based on my good driving record. Then he tells me that he has NEVER written a ticket for that and just about any cop he knows would only write one if it resulted in an accident. He said I must have either gotten a guy having a bad day who decided to take it out on my or a rookie with a power trip. They guy was pretty young.

[Sure-Oz]

I seem to get a cop that's just a prick everytime...and just love giving tickets.

[Micjones]

I seem to get a cop that's just a prick everytime...and just love giving tickets.

My last two...
Lawrence and Leavenworth leaving town...At 2am.
Never again.

That's a surefire way for me to be stopped.

[Calcountry]

I was speeding (about 17 over) and the cop stopped me.
Caught me without my seat belt as well.

My tags were expired and I didn't have my insurance card on me.
But he didn't bother me about either of those...You should have talked on your cell until the cop walked up, then said, "Hey, let me roll" to the person on the other end of the line, that way the cop could have written you the trifecta.

[Spott]

I seem to get a cop that's just a prick everytime...and just love giving tickets.

You have about the same odds of meeting a cop that is a prick as you do meeting a basketball player that is tall.

[Bwana]

Pay up and stfu. :)

[Chief Faithful]

In Atlanta you hire a traffic lawyer. You pay the fine and the lawyer fee then the violation is wiped off your record. Thus, when insurance or the next cop looks into your past violations your record is clean.

Just ask my son, 5 tickets in 13 months and his record is spotless. Of course he averages $50 a week on his driving habits.

[Dayze]

not sure if it was a local cop or HiPatrol, but i went on a ridealong with my relative and calibrating his radar gun against the tuning fork was the first thing he did after getting coffe etc.

Perhaps it may differ from HiPo and Local cops etc. But from what i gathered, he tested his tuning fork/gun before ever setting on the highway etc. Logs/radioed in etc were kept etc.

wish I could be more help......I'm useles.....

lol

[BWillie]

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STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!

[Dayze]

My last one was during rush hour traffic; EB of 425 at Quirvra = accident; all lanes standstill except left lane.

rolled past a HiPo on the new bike; I was approaching the HiPo abotu 20mph in the left lane (he was in the next lane over on the right); my tags temp tags (improperly displayed) were 4 days expired; I thought "this MoFo is gonna pull me over as soon as I rool past" Sure a sh*t; he lit me up in bumper to bumper traffic etc.

asked why my tags were not displayed etc; I asked "How do I diaplay a MO temp tag when it's paper and I'm on a bike"? He agreed...and didn't kn ow. But wrote me up for expired tage etc. Misdemeanor; which was dismissed b/c the DA knew it was BS etc.

I have had HiPo's and local cops turn on me just because I'm on an organe (as many of you know "Bengal Oragne" lol....STFU lol) sportbike on a near daily baisis.

that's why I 'get out of town' and stetch her legs (Clinton MO, Osceola etc)