CHIEFS SIGN INGLE MARTIN?

[corandval]

Posted in Kc Star

[MIAdragon]

WTF?

Harry Ingle Martin IV (born August 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15), 1982 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982) in Memphis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis,_Tennessee), Tennesse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennesse)) is an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) quarterback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback), who is currently a free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent). He was selected in the fifth round (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft#Round_five) of the 2006 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft) out of Furman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furman_University#Athletics) by the Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers).
Martin spent 2006 with the Packers and served as the third-string quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers) and starter Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre). On August 25, 2007, he was released<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingle_Martin#cite_note-0)</SUP>, but the Titans signed him to their practice squad on September 2

[Red Dawg]

WTF?

Harry Ingle Martin IV (born August 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15), 1982 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982) in Memphis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis,_Tennessee), Tennesse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennesse)) is an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) quarterback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback), who is currently a free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent). He was selected in the fifth round (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft#Round_five) of the 2006 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft) out of Furman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furman_University#Athletics) by the Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers).
Martin spent 2006 with the Packers and served as the third-string quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers) and starter Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre). On August 25, 2007, he was released<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingle_Martin#cite_note-0)</SUP>, but the Titans signed him to their practice squad on September 2

START HIM THIS WEEK! He can definitely avoid a pass rush better than Huard.

[corandval]

Why would we sign him over Chris Simms? I wonder who we are going to release.

[MIAdragon]

The Titans decided to only go with 2 QBs this season (Vince Young and Kerry Collins) which allowed them to cut Ingle Martin. Martin completed 13 of 25 passes this preseason (52%) for 185 yards with 0 TD passes and 0 interceptions (76.2 QB Rating). He also carried the football 6 times for 18 yards (3.0 ypc) in the preseason.

[Simply Red]

WTF?

Harry Ingle Martin IV (born August 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15), 1982 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982) in Memphis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis,_Tennessee), Tennesse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennesse)) is an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) quarterback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback), who is currently a free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent). He was selected in the fifth round (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft#Round_five) of the 2006 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft) out of Furman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furman_University#Athletics) by the Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers).
Martin spent 2006 with the Packers and served as the third-string quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers) and starter Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre). On August 25, 2007, he was released<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingle_Martin#cite_note-0)</SUP>, but the Titans signed him to their practice squad on September 2

Now that's progress!

[OnTheWarpath15]

:shake:

[Spott]

Is that the same QB who was a backup at Florida a few years back?

[MIAdragon]

Does this mean we are going with the Wobble launcher as our starter!?

[allen_kcCard]

Print em!


You slow asses

[TrickyNicky]

Good lord. Ingle is about as bad a first name as Frostee.

[corandval]

I have completely lost faith in this front office!

[Red Dawg]

I hope we keep this kid around because you never know. Alot of QB's come from no where, not all of them were number one picks.

[DaFace]

So we're definitely still in "Croyle's our QB, so let's find a third-stringer to fill the gaps while he recovers" mode apparently.

[MIAdragon]

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[xbarretx]

ill take it!

[Micjones]

Who?

[shitgoose]

Is that the same QB who was a backup at Florida a few years back?

Yeah and then he transfered to Furman when he got replaced by Chris Leak

[Archie Bunker]

Maybe just maybe there is a reason everyone is passing on Simms. I'd rather roll the dice on Martin than go the Rattay/Culpepper route.

[chiefs1111]

Ingle Martin will be our savior,lol

[QuikSsurfer]

wtf is this shit?

[Simply Red]

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[BigVE]

They are hoping to get lucky and pick up the next Kurt Warner (from the Rams glory years) or something.

[Rooster]

:spock: Your name is Harry Ingle Martin IV. :doh!:

[Pablo]

I'm all about it.

Ingle Martin is a f*cking pimp name.

Instead of...you just got Favre'd.

You just got Ingle'd.

[Rooster]

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He looks mean so that is an upgrade from what we have.

[Pablo]

:spock: Your name is Harry Ingle Martin IV. :doh!:
With a name like that, I'm sure he scored higher than a 6 on the Wonderlic.

[ct]

Not bad, thought he was a decent prospect when I saw a GB pre-season game a couple years ago.

Somethin must seriously be goin on with Chris Simms. :shrug:

[dirk digler]

I was going to start laughing at the front office until I saw that video. he has a really really good arm

[RustShack]

Packers cut him and then draft two QB's, he goes to the Titans who cut him after a year and instead of bringing him back after Young goes down they are looking at Harrington and someone else... He sounds like a winner.

[Simply Red]

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[TrickyNicky]

Can I get some of the Kool-Aid already?

[RustShack]

So where is he listed on the depth chart...

[OnTheWarpath15]

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ROFLROFLROFL

How did you do that?

[Iowanian]

....that sounds like a greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat idea.

[xbarretx]

Maybe just maybe there is a reason everyone is passing on Simms. I'd rather roll the dice on Martin than go the Rattay/Culpepper route.

QFT! rep!

[Sure-Oz]

LMFAO this team is great, there must be something seriously wrong with Simms

[Simply Red]

ROFLROFLROFL

How did you do that?

I'll pm you.

[Sure-Oz]

Martin torched the raiders, suit him up

[ROYC75]

Christmas will be fun, we will have Ingle Bells ........

[FAX]

So ... when he gets sacked by four or five defensive guys, we can call that an "Ingle Bury"?

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

I like this chick:

[Chief Bootknocka]

For those of you who don't know, here's some info on Ingle Martin;

Parade All American and Elite 11 QB at Montgomery Bell Academy in Nashville, TN, where he won 3 consecutive football titles and back to back basketball state titles. Two time TN player of the year. Played QB, K, P, and FS in high school.

Recruited by Spurrier, who knows quarterbacks to UF, where he backed up Rex Grossman. Played well when given the opportunity before Zook replaced him with Chris Leak. Zook never really gave him a chance. While at UF, Ingle saw game action as a WR, P, and QB.

Transferred to Furman, where he lead the Paladins deep into the playoffs two years in a row. Played punter, kicker, and QB. Won All American honors as a punter, and all conference honors as a QB.

Drafted by Green Bay and released after 1 year when the Pack only kept 2 QBs on the roster. Threw the ball harder than any other QB at the combine (Croyle, Cutler, Young, Leinart).

Picked up by the Titans on the practice squad last year. Played very well this fall, including a game winning 2 minute drill against the raiders. Was also punting and kicking field goals when Bironas went down, and although he never kicked one in a game, he did a good job.

Although relatively unknown, you've got a very athletic QB here. Deceptively fast and quick, he's also 6'3" 220 lbs. He can run and throw. He's also someone you don't have to worry about off the field. I wouldn't give up on him before you give him a try. Could be another Romo waiting to happen.

[The Franchise]

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ROFL

[The Franchise]

For those of you who don't know, here's some info on Ingle Martin;

Parade All American and Elite 11 QB at Montgomery Bell Academy in Nashville, TN, where he won 3 consecutive football titles and back to back basketball state titles. Two time TN player of the year. Played QB, K, P, and FS in high school.

Recruited by Spurrier, who knows quarterbacks to UF, where he backed up Rex Grossman. Played well when given the opportunity before Zook replaced him with Chris Leak. Zook never really gave him a chance. While at UF, Ingle saw game action as a WR, P, and QB.

Transferred to Furman, where he lead the Paladins deep into the playoffs two years in a row. Played punter, kicker, and QB. Won All American honors as a punter, and all conference honors as a QB.

Drafted by Green Bay and released after 1 year when the Pack only kept 2 QBs on the roster. Threw the ball harder than any other QB at the draft (Croyle, Cutler, Young, Leinart)

Picked up by the Titans on the practice squad last year. Played very well this fall, including a game winning 2 minute drill against the raiders. Was also punting and kicking field goals when Bironas went down, and although he never kicked one in a game, he did a good job.

Although relatively unknown, you've got a very athletic QB here. Deceptively fast and quick, he's also 6'3" 220 lbs. He can run and throw. He's also someone you don't have to worry about off the field. I wouldn't give up on him before you give him a try. Could be another Romo waiting to happen.

That right there is why we signed him.

[Simply Red]

I like this chick:

I know that your friends are my friends and, uh... I thought about that. You can have'em.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

LMAO, WOW

[Pablo]

That right there is why we signed him.So the guy's named Ingle and can throw the football through cinder blocks...I f*cking dig it.

[the Talking Can]

he sent a vhs of himself ripping off his shirt sleeves....

[the Talking Can]

So the guy's named Ingle and can throw the football through cinder blocks...I f*cking dig it.

he could do a halftime show for us

[Sure-Oz]

For those of you who don't know, here's some info on Ingle Martin;

Parade All American and Elite 11 QB at Montgomery Bell Academy in Nashville, TN, where he won 3 consecutive football titles and back to back basketball state titles. Two time TN player of the year. Played QB, K, P, and FS in high school.

Recruited by Spurrier, who knows quarterbacks to UF, where he backed up Rex Grossman. Played well when given the opportunity before Zook replaced him with Chris Leak. Zook never really gave him a chance. While at UF, Ingle saw game action as a WR, P, and QB.

Transferred to Furman, where he lead the Paladins deep into the playoffs two years in a row. Played punter, kicker, and QB. Won All American honors as a punter, and all conference honors as a QB.

Drafted by Green Bay and released after 1 year when the Pack only kept 2 QBs on the roster. Threw the ball harder than any other QB at the combine (Croyle, Cutler, Young, Leinart).

Picked up by the Titans on the practice squad last year. Played very well this fall, including a game winning 2 minute drill against the raiders. Was also punting and kicking field goals when Bironas went down, and although he never kicked one in a game, he did a good job.

Although relatively unknown, you've got a very athletic QB here. Deceptively fast and quick, he's also 6'3" 220 lbs. He can run and throw. He's also someone you don't have to worry about off the field. I wouldn't give up on him before you give him a try. Could be another Romo waiting to happen.

Thanks for the details....i don't think the chiefs would be so lucky for him to become a Romo, we'd probably **** him up coaching anyway...

I'm not too worried about the move, looks like he has some tools. Can't be any worse than what we have now.

[RustShack]

That right there is why we signed him.

I thought it was because he could kick...

[eazyb81]

Weird.

I got drunk with him this summer. He's from Nashville and went to HS with some friends of mine down here.

Cool guy, can hold his liquor.

[Pablo]

I really don't dislike this move. He'd probably be content with being our 3rd stringer after this season. He could come in, play for a few weeks until Brodie comes back, then if Croyle goes down again, fill in instead of Hutard.

Then when the season ends and we draft a QB, we'd have:

Stafford??/Croyle/Martin.

Then we could drop Hutard and Pigpen forever. I'd love that.

[Sure-Oz]

Weird.

I got drunk with him this summer. He's from Nashville and went to HS with some friends of mine down here.

Cool guy, can hold his liquor.

You can brag 2 years from now that you drank with Tony Romo II

[OnTheWarpath15]

Looks like Mitch Holthus' job is safe...

[QuikSsurfer]

Weird.

I got drunk with him this summer. He's from Nashville and went to HS with some friends of mine down here.

Cool guy, can hold his liquor.

Print em

[Spott]

Recruited by Spurrier, who knows quarterbacks to UF


That's some funny stuff there.

[Monty]

Looks like Mitch Holthus' job is safe...

Sounds like one of those touchdowns when we're down 41-7. :)

[Pablo]

Cool guy, can hold his liquor.Good, because playing behind this line could turn a rational guy name Ingle into a raging alcoholic by the season's end. It's good to know drinking is a talent of his, and he won't have to make any major adjustments when he goes from 1 Crown and Coke a night to an entire bottle of Crown sans Coke a night.

[Simply Red]

Looks like Mitch Holthus' job is safe...

ROFL

[CoMoChief]

I have completely lost faith in this front office!

Ditto.

Granted there isn't anything really that much better out there.

As in the movie "Major League"
"Who are these ****in guys?!??!"

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sounds like one of those touchdowns when we're down 41-7. :)

ROFL

[Red Dawg]

Nice video. Never know what you might find out there. How do we know he's not the guy we are looking for?

[Simply Red]

Nice video. Never know what you might find out there. How do we know he's not the guy we are looking for?

Yeah, he is young. I made your ass a birthday thread too.

[triple]

"I've got a hairy ingle, Martin."

"Sounds like a personal problem."

[OnTheWarpath15]

Take that back, I'm starting to like this guy. Move over Holthus...

[The Franchise]

Take that back, I'm starting to like this guy. Move over Holthus...

ROFL

Damon Ooard.

[Mr. Laz]

this is a "avoid a QB controversy" at all cost signing imo

[PastorMikH]

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No offense intended here, but that was againt the Raiders. And Div 2 and up QB with starting experience could probably do that against the Raiders.


Can he do that against a good team?

[PastorMikH]

Drafted by Green Bay and released after 1 year when the Pack only kept 2 QBs on the roster. Threw the ball harder than any other QB at the combine (Croyle, Cutler, Young, Leinart).




I don't care how he throws the ball, can he hand the ball off?

[rockymtnchief]

Speaking of hard throws, quarterbacks had their passes measured for speed and Furman’s Ingle Martin, who is opening some eyes this weekend, led all passers with a 65 mph throw. Jay Cutler checked in at 60 mph, Brodie Croyle threw it 58 mph, Alabama State’s Tarvaris Jackson manages 57 mph and Bruce Eugene threw the ball 55 mph.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/combineday4.html

[Sure-Oz]

No offense intended here, but that was againt the Raiders. And Div 2 and up QB with starting experience could probably do that against the Raiders.


Can he do that against a good team?

Exactly why we start him in place of Huard this week

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I got a Ingle in my dingle!

[triple]

this is a "avoid a QB controversy" at all cost signing imo

not much of a controversy if they all suck

[Coach]

Nice.....

[Deberg_1990]

Maybe just maybe there is a reason everyone is passing on Simms.

Quite honestly Simms isnt very good. Hes more of a "name" than a good QB.

[Pablo]

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/combineday4.html65 mph is pretty ridiculously hard for a football.

I could prolly throw a baseball 65..but that's a lot easier to do than with a football.

[Sure-Oz]

It's sad his dad can't even pull strings to get the guy a #3 job

[Sure-Oz]

65 mph is pretty ridiculously hard for a football.

I could prolly throw a baseball 65..but that's a lot easier to do than with a football.

I wonder if his real name is Colt Griffin?!

[Deberg_1990]

Another thing that might have turned the Chiefs off of Simms is hes left handed.

Would you want McInTurd protecting your backside??

[OnTheWarpath15]

Another thing that might have turned the Chiefs off of Simms is hes left handed.

Would you want McInTurd protecting your backside??

I wouldn't want him protecting my front side, either...

[Simply Red]

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[Mr. Arrowhead]

http://forums.titansonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38602
Titans fans thought on the move, some thought he should have been the 2nd string over collins

[Rasputin]

I hope Ingle plays and not Huard it is depressing watching Huard play. :sulk:

[Coach]

I hope Ingle plays and not Huard it is depressing watching Huard play. :sulk:

Unlikely that will be happening.

[DaneMcCloud]

This move just confirms the youth movement.

It also appears the front office is trying to avoid a QB controversy once Croyle's ready to return.

Personally, I like it. This team isn't going anywhere and while Chris Simms might be able to add a few W's to the win column, he's certainly not a long term solution.

And the Chiefs need to be at the top of the draft to assure high-level talent to continue the rebuilding project.

[Deberg_1990]

And the Chiefs need to be at the top of the draft to assure high-level talent to continue the rebuilding project.

DING DING DING!!! We have a WINNER!!

[Rasputin]

Unlikely that will be happening.

:sulk:

[PastorMikH]

NFL network just reported Simms in going to Tennessee. I'm sure this has already been posted.


Just backed up and re-watched. The Titans got ahold of Simms while he was in KC, they basically agreed to a deal over the phone contingent upon passing a physical. Simms hopped on a plane and headed to TN. KC in return got Ingle Martin off the Titan's practice squad. Could this move be on to get back at TN for snatching Simms away from KC?

[OnTheWarpath15]

NFL network just reported Simms in going to Tennessee. I'm sure this has already been posted.

Actually, no.

Don't think it has.

[PastorMikH]

Actually, no.

Don't think it has.


REALLY?!?!?!?


I GOT TO BREAK A STORY ON THE PLANET

:)

[corandval]

Sounds like the only reason we signed Ingle is because Tenn. lured Simms out of KC. Way to go Carl, you have him in town and he leaves to go sign with another team!

[Reerun_KC]

Sounds like the only reason we signed Ingle is because Tenn. lured Simms out of KC. Way to go Carl, you have him in town and he leaves to go sign with another team!
God Bless you Carl, Keeping "true fans" true for 20 years!

[corandval]

The guy is desperate for a job and Carl can't get a deal done while he is in town!

[nychief]

simms sucks - who cares....

INGLE IS THE MAN!

[Mecca]

He's probably better than Thigpen.

[Deberg_1990]

Carl probably couldnt promise him the starting job over Huard to be honest... ROFL

[corandval]

Anybody know who we released so we could sign Ingle

[Mecca]

Anybody know who we released so we could sign Ingle

Hopefully BJ Sams.

[Archie F. Swin]

inglebert humplemartin

[Pablo]

Hopefully BJ Sams.And Thigpen. And Pat Thomas. And McGraw.

[Mecca]

And Thigpen. And Pat Thomas. And McGraw.

McGraw is probably blowing Herm right now.

[Mecca]

The real reason they signed him is he can kick and punt too, can never have to many of those guys in Herms world.

[chiefs1111]

Sounds like the only reason we signed Ingle is because Tenn. lured Simms out of KC. Way to go Carl, you have him in town and he leaves to go sign with another team!

Well we are talking about Carl Peterson here,im not surprised

[evolve27]

Harry Dingle Martin should make an immediate impact!

[chiefs1111]

The real reason they signed him is he can kick and punt too, can never have to many of those guys in Herms world.

lol,that is what I remember the most about him from his time at Florida...

[Mecca]

Maybe he can kickoff.

[BigRedChief]

He's probably better than Thigpen.
Talk about diminishing goals. Now they just need to be better than Thigpin.

[Pablo]

Maybe he can kickoff.Yeah, after watching Novak bomb one kickoff to the 17 or some sh*t, I'm glad we stuck with that guy.

[evolve27]

Maybe he can kickoff.

Did Novak kick off poorly?

[Pablo]

Talk about diminishing goals. Now they just need to be better than Thigpin.Yeah, he just has to be better than our stringer to be worth bringing in. And I'm sure he is. Anyone has to be.

That way when we draft a QB next year, we'll have successfully groomed Croyle to be our back-up and Martin to be the third stringer.

And Huard and Thigpin can get the f*ck outta KC.

[corandval]

Did Novak kick off poorly?
Yes, he was horrible!

[Reaper16]

My name is Ingle Martin. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

[bigfoot]

Impressive there anyway.

[ExtremeChief]

Take that back, I'm starting to like this guy. Move over Holthus...



Holy shit!

ROFL:clap::D

[Buehler445]

My name is Ingle Martin. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

You don't happen to have six fingers on your right hand do you?

[Frazod]

My name is Ingle Martin. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

LMAO

[Hydrae]

If he doesn't wipe well enough does he get Ingleberries?

[Hydrae]

The real reason they signed him is he can kick and punt too, can never have to many of those guys in Herms world.

Martin drops back to pass. No, wait....it's a squib kick!

[MahiMike]

I have completely lost faith in this front office!


LOST faith??? U mean u HAD faith to begin with?

[Ultra Peanut]

Martin drops back to pass. No, wait....it's a squib kick!I do love me some rugby punts.

[tomahawk kid]

Well - looks like the Tits just signed Simms, which confirms to me the absurdity of signing a piece of s#it like Martin.

Glad we're continuing to place the future of this franchise into a brittle bean pole whose proved 3 time in seven games that he can't stay healthy.

Yet again more proof that Herm might indeed be borderline retarded.

Honestly thinking about not going to the game on Sunday even though I have tickets..........

[tomahawk kid]

Anybody know who we released so we could sign Ingle

Honestly dude - no offense, but does it f#cking matter?

[The Bad Guy]

It's hilarious that the Chiefs for years went with the veteran presence at QB.

Now they are so stubborn about going young, they are resting all their chips on the fragile body of Brodie.

It's either one extreme or another with Carl.

From 1994-2001, he was trying to build a team heavy on defense and ignored the offense. From 2001-2006, he was trying to build a team heavy on offense, while really putting the defense on the burner.

Why can't he achieve any balance in his job?

[SAUTO]

Why can't he achieve any balance in his job?

he has he put asses in the seats and saves money

[tomahawk kid]

It's hilarious that the Chiefs for years went with the veteran presence at QB.

Now they are so stubborn about going young, they are resting all their chips on the fragile body of Brodie.

It's either one extreme or another with Carl.

From 1994-2001, he was trying to build a team heavy on defense and ignored the offense. From 2001-2006, he was trying to build a team heavy on offense, while really putting the defense on the burner.

Why can't he achieve any balance in his job?

I just hope they finally get rid of that mother f#cker after this season.

In turn, I hope some Raytown native shivs the sorry son of a bitch on his way to his car after getting canned.........

[Bwana]

Wow, this club is fricken nuts.

[SAUTO]

Wow, this club is fricken nuts.

NO SHIT

[chiefs1111]

Ingle Martin will be our new secret weapon

[ChiefsCountry]

This really isnt a bad signing.

[triple]

This really isnt a bad signing.

I don't think so. Simms had a big injury, has been out of the league, and Rattay is a known quantity at this point. They picked someone they can work on to build with. If he works out, ok. If not... Huard and Croyle are probably getting all the snaps this year anyway.

[DeezNutz]

I heard on the radio that Simms has never been right in the pocket since recovering from the spleen thing. Something about balance or what not. Anyone else heard/know anything about this?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

we cut Maurice price and Battle, but plain to activate them to the practice squad.
http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-shuffle-roster-for-qb.html#more-2245

[MIAdragon]

I heard on the radio that Simms has never been right in the pocket since recovering from the spleen thing. Something about balance or what not. Anyone else heard/know anything about this?

His two games before the spleen thing, he sucked I think he threw something like 4-5 picks and 0 TDs.

[Coach]

we cut Maurice price and Battle, but plain to activate them to the practice squad.
http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-shuffle-roster-for-qb.html#more-2245

What? Price, especially when the receivers positions is decimated with injuries?

WHISKEY.

TANGO.

FOXTROT.

Goddamn, this does not make sense at all. :shake:

[SAUTO]

wonder why we cut 2????

[SAUTO]

are we looking at someone else also

[Ultra Peanut]

we cut Maurice price and Battle, but plain to activate them to the practice squad.
http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-shuffle-roster-for-qb.html#more-2245JESUS CHRIST

THIS ****ING FRANCHISE

[MIAdragon]

Please die Carl

[Mecca]

We cut Price.....someone is going to get upset.

[sedated]

when exactly did this franchise lose their f*cking mind?

[DeezNutz]

His two games before the spleen thing, he sucked I think he threw something like 4-5 picks and 0 TDs.

Yikes.

[The Bad Guy]

Are we the only team in the NFL that splits out their fullback on just about every play?

4 receivers?

Good lord.

[sedated]

if Price is still hurt there's a good chance no one else will sign him.

[sedated]

wonder why we cut 2????

to sign a (shitty) WR

[SAUTO]

WHO???

[Mr. Arrowhead]

wonder why we cut 2????
we activated Marques Hagans from the practice squad

[sedated]

Funny post from TN board:

Quoted: "[we'll have to sign] some developmental scrub QB, probably the one the Chiefs will be dumping..."

"brodie croyle?"

[SAUTO]

we activated Marques Hagans from the practice squad

thanks

[Coach]

We cut Price.....someone is going to get upset.

I'm beyond upset. I am bitter that I am not the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, becuase I would have f**king shitcanned Carl F**king Peterson like 5 f**king years ago!

I would have started by wiping that f**king dumb-ass smile off of his rosey f**king, cheeks! Then I would have him escorted to his f**king automobile: his f**king Jaguar, his f**king BMW, his f**king Mustang, or a f**king Buick! Doesn't matter, it's just four f**king wheels and a seat!

And I really don't care for the way his management skills have left me in the middle of f**king nowhere with no f**king idea how to run a f**king football team that isn't even f**king there. And I really didn't care to his f**king head coach who doesn't have a f**king clue on how to f**king run a f**king football team, and I end up seeing his f**king Herm F**king Edwards sly face. I want a new f**king General Manager and Head Coach, RIGHT F**KING NOW!

[SAUTO]

dont cut corners,tell us how you really feel

[Mecca]

Funny post from TN board:

Quoted: "[we'll have to sign] some developmental scrub QB, probably the one the Chiefs will be dumping..."

"brodie croyle?"

Ok that is a hilarious post.

[evolve27]

we cut Maurice price and Battle, but plain to activate them to the practice squad.
http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-shuffle-roster-for-qb.html#more-2245

FucI< !!!!

[Mecca]

I'm beyond upset. I am bitter that I am not the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, becuase I would have f**king shitcanned Carl F**king Peterson like 5 f**king years ago!

I would have started by wiping that f**king dumb-ass smile off of his rosey f**king, cheeks! Then I would have him escorted to his f**king automobile: his f**king Jaguar, his f**king BMW, his f**king Mustang, or a f**king Buick! Doesn't matter, it's just four f**king wheels and a seat!

And I really don't care for the way his management skills have left me in the middle of f**king nowhere with no f**king idea how to run a f**king football team that isn't even f**king there. And I really didn't care to his f**king head coach who doesn't have a f**king clue on how to f**king run a f**king football team, and I end up seeing his f**king Herm F**king Edwards sly face. I want a new f**king General Manager and Head Coach, RIGHT F**KING NOW!

Just to make it better when Carl is finally gone he'll just get replaced by one of his cronies.

[Buehler445]

I'm beyond upset. I am bitter that I am not the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, becuase I would have f**king shitcanned Carl F**king Peterson like 5 f**king years ago!

I would have started by wiping that f**king dumb-ass smile off of his rosey f**king, cheeks! Then I would have him escorted to his f**king automobile: his f**king Jaguar, his f**king BMW, his f**king Mustang, or a f**king Buick! Doesn't matter, it's just four f**king wheels and a seat!

And I really don't care for the way his management skills have left me in the middle of f**king nowhere with no f**king idea how to run a f**king football team that isn't even f**king there. And I really didn't care to his f**king head coach who doesn't have a f**king clue on how to f**king run a f**king football team, and I end up seeing his f**king Herm F**king Edwards sly face. I want a new f**king General Manager and Head Coach, RIGHT F**KING NOW!


I was going to post something, but I really cannot compete with this.

[Mecca]

I got an idea.....

People going to the game bring a big banner that says "Ingle's berries" and dress in big turd suits, it'll be great.

[boogblaster]

Another fine mess you have us in Allie ...

[Coach]

Just to make it better when Carl is finally gone he'll just get replaced by one of his cronies.

I f**king hope not.

[PastorMikH]

hey Coach, do the parents of your kids ever worry about you having a coronary on the sidelines?

:)

[Mr. Laz]

I'm beyond upset. I am bitter that I am not the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, becuase I would have f**king shitcanned Carl F**king Peterson like 5 f**king years ago!

I would have started by wiping that f**king dumb-ass smile off of his rosey f**king, cheeks! Then I would have him escorted to his f**king automobile: his f**king Jaguar, his f**king BMW, his f**king Mustang, or a f**king Buick! Doesn't matter, it's just four f**king wheels and a seat!

And I really don't care for the way his management skills have left me in the middle of f**king nowhere with no f**king idea how to run a f**king football team that isn't even f**king there. And I really didn't care to his f**king head coach who doesn't have a f**king clue on how to f**king run a f**king football team, and I end up seeing his f**king Herm F**king Edwards sly face. I want a new f**king General Manager and Head Coach, RIGHT F**KING NOW!

wowser ..... nice :clap:

[Chiefnj2]

GB's had some decent luck with QB's so maybe there is something about the guy. People didn't want an old retread, so they got a young guy with potential.

I would have grabbed Martin Nance over the other WR/QB they signed. Nance has very good hands.

[Sure-Oz]

Interesting side note on this signing of Simms as well....per Rotoworld

Report: Titans moving on from uncertain Young

The Nashville Tennessean reports Vince Young on Monday "indicated to those around him he didn't want to play football any more." The Titans may be planning to move on without him.
This isn't the first time we've heard this from Young. And "there are indications" the team is ready to move forward with Kerry Collins, even when Young gets healthy. And that assumes Young even wants his job back. Young's mother, rightly concerned, pleaded for people to give her son "space" and "love." But it won't be so simple. A psychologist reported Young was "extremely depressed" and one wonders when (and if) he'll see the field again. Sep. 9 - 10:43 pm et
Source: Nashville Tennessean

[triple]

i dont think Young is QB material in the NFL. but that being said, mental illness is just as serious an illness as any other. I hope that the people around him who care can help him get whatever assistance he needs. Football is all very secondary sometimes even for a professional football player.

[Skip Towne]

So he'd rather work at McDonalds? With his ACT that may not work either.

[Sure-Oz]

So he'd rather work at McDonalds? With his ACT that may not work either.

I'm sure he can retire with the money he has, maybe he is football's Zack Greinke

[Pablo]

I don't see how some people can really be that upset with this signing...

I mean Chris Simms? WTF has he proven besides having the same last name as his daddy, or Tim Rattay? Come on. He's like eleventy-billion years old. We might as well sign a practic squad scrub than these two guys.

They're just well-known scrubs, we signed a nobody scrub.

Huard will get all the snaps until Brodie gets healthy. Then Brodie plays until he gets injured again, and by that time..who know, Martin might step in. Then when the season is over; we draft a QB, Brodie becomes our #2, Martin becomes #3 and we shit-can Hutard and Pigpen.

Or we stick with Brodie, get a younger back-up QB, and keep Hutard on the 3rd string.

He may not be a better QB than Hutard, but I've never seen him play and I'm certain he's better than Thiggy.

[Buehler445]

i dont think Young is QB material in the NFL. but that being said, mental illness is just as serious an illness as any other. I hope that the people around him who care can help him get whatever assistance he needs. Football is all very secondary sometimes even for a professional football player.

Yeah, if he is sick, he needs help. Despite what any of us think of him.

Personally, I was kind of rooting for the guy. He seems to play with a lot of heart. I had hoped his skills would come around (oh boy did they not come around) as he is pretty fun to watch.

[Dayze]

looked good in the you tube video.

although....he had protectino and WRs that could get open (granted 2 throws were money). But good job finding the seams in what was probably a Prevent (the worst defense ever unless there are only 2 seconds on the clock)

[Pablo]

looked good in the you tube video.

although....he had protectino and WRs that could get open (granted 2 throws were money). But good job finding the seams in what was probably a Prevent (the worst defense ever unless there are only 2 seconds on the clock)He was also playing the Raiders 2nd and 3rd stringers.

Those are like 7th stringers on respectable NFL teams.

[TrickyNicky]

We don't even know how long Croyle is out. From what I garnered from Petro this morning, is if it grades out to a level 1 tear = 2-4 weeks, level 3 = out for the year, and level 2 would be somewhere in between.

[Nightfyre]

if it's 2 or 3 Croyle is done. I for one, will be glad we stuck to the "experiment" to its conclusion. It gives me hope for any other QB prospect we bring in.

[Mecca]

if it's 2 or 3 Croyle is done. I for one, will be glad we stuck to the "experiment" to its conclusion. It gives me hope for any other QB prospect we bring in.

We're gonna need a new staff to develop a QB.

[DaneMcCloud]

We're gonna need a new staff to develop a QB.

I don't know if I'd go that far but we're certainly going to need Top Ten talent.

If you draft Top Ten talent, there isn't much to develop.

They're already pretty much there.

If you chose wisely.

:evil:

[007]

Drop kick is in play now.

[Nightfyre]

Drop kick is in play now.

REPOST!!!eleventyone!!!111!11
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5001342&postcount=8

[007]

REPOST!!!eleventyone!!!111!11
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5001342&postcount=8
Drop kick is not a punt.

In both American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) and Canadian football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_football), one method of scoring a field goal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_%28football%29) or extra point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_point) is by drop-kicking the football through the goal.
The drop kick was often used in early football as a surprise tactic. The ball would be snapped (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_%28football%29) or lateraled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_pass) to a back, who would perhaps fake a run or pass, but then would kick the field goal instead.
This method of scoring worked well in the 1920s and 1930s, when the football was rounder at the ends (similar to a modern rugby ball). Early football stars such as Jim Thorpe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Thorpe) and Paddy Driscoll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Driscoll) were skilled drop-kickers.
In 1934, the ball was made more pointed at the ends. This made passing the ball easier, as was its intent, but made the drop kick obsolete, as the more pointed ball did not bounce up from the ground reliably. The drop kick was supplanted by the place kick, which cannot be attempted out of a formation generally used as a running or passing set. The drop kick remains in the rules, but is seldom seen, and rarely effective when attempted.
The only successful drop kick in the last sixty-plus years in the NFL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL) was by Doug Flutie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Flutie), the backup quarterback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback) of the New England Patriots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots), against the Miami Dolphins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Dolphins) on January 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006) for an extra point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_point) after a touchdown pass by third-string quarterback Matt Cassel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Cassel). Since Doug Flutie estimated that he had "probably an 80 percent chance" of making a drop kick<sup id="cite_ref-autogenerated1_1-0" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#cite_note-autogenerated1-1)</sup> and regular place-kicked point after attempts have a much higher probability of being good, the kick was not a strategic move. After the game, New England coach Bill Belichick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick) said "I think Doug deserves it"<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#cite_note-2)</sup> and Flutie said "I just thanked him for the opportunity".<sup id="cite_ref-autogenerated1_1-1" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#cite_note-autogenerated1-1)</sup> (The play was probably attempted due to the fact that Flutie, who was 42 at the time, was playing in his final NFL game. Indeed, the drop kick was his last play in an NFL uniform.) The last successful drop kick in the NFL before that was executed by Ray "Scooter" McLean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_%28Scooter%29_McLean) of the Chicago Bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears) in their 37-9 victory over the New York Giants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Giants) on December 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_21), 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941) in the NFL championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Championship_Game,_1941) game at Chicago's Wrigley Field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Field). Though it wasn't part of the NFL at the time, the All-America Football Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-America_Football_Conference) saw its last drop kick November 28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_28), 1948 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948) when Joe Vetrano (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Vetrano&action=edit&redlink=1) of the San Francisco 49ers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_49ers) drop kicked an extra point after a muffed snap against the Cleveland Browns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns).<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#cite_note-3)</sup>
Prior to Flutie's historic drop-kick, the only recent vocal proponent of the drop-kick in the NFL had been Jim McMahon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McMahon), quarterback for several NFL teams. During the 1980s, while playing in Chicago, McMahon regularly practiced the drop kick, and was known to frequently petition Bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears) head coach Mike Ditka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ditka) for an opportunity to use the maneuver. Ditka, who regarded the play as an anachronism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism), never allowed it.
In August 1974, Tom Wilkinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wilkinson_%28football_player%29), quarterback for the Edmonton Eskimos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Eskimos), attempted a drop-kick field goal in the final seconds of a 20-2 romp over the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers). He missed. This may have been the last time the play was deliberately attempted in the CFL.
Exclusively in Canadian football, the drop kick can be attempted beyond or behind the line of scrimmage. Any player on the kicking team behind the kicker, and including the kicker, can recover the kick. A drop kick that goes out of bounds is considered a change of possession.
During one game in the 1980s Hamilton Tiger-Cats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Tiger-Cats) wide receiver Earl Winfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Winfield) was unable to field properly a punt and in frustration he kicked the ball out of bounds. The kick was considered a drop kick and it led to a change of possession and the team that punted regained possession of the ball.
The last successful drop kick extra point in NCAA was by Aaron Fitzgerald of the University of LaVerne on November 10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_10), 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990) against Claremont-Mudd-Scripps.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#cite_note-4)</sup>
In popular media, a drop kick was successfully attempted in the Burt Reynolds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Reynolds) film The Longest Yard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longest_Yard_%281974_film%29), complete with an explanation by Reynold's character of its proper name and point value to a player (Ray Nitschke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nitschke)'s character) on the opposing team.
Because it is a relatively obscure and obsolete maneuver in American and Canadian football today, sport laymen often confuse the term "drop-kick" for a punt.

[teedubya]

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[DaKCMan AP]

Oh JFC. I'm at a loss for words.

:doh!::spock::shake::grr:

[DaKCMan AP]

He may not be a better QB than Hutard, but I've never seen him play and I'm certain he's better than Thiggy.

So.... you're talking out of your ass?

dIngle Martin is great at one-hopping a pass to a WR on a 10 yard route. He's garbage. Terrible. He should have never been drafted, never signed as a UDFA, never given a chance in the NFL yet he was somehow taken and has lasted for a few years. Unreal.

[milkman]

It's hilarious that the Chiefs for years went with the veteran presence at QB.

Now they are so stubborn about going young, they are resting all their chips on the fragile body of Brodie.

It's either one extreme or another with Carl.

From 1994-2001, he was trying to build a team heavy on defense and ignored the offense. From 2001-2006, he was trying to build a team heavy on offense, while really putting the defense on the burner.

Why can't he achieve any balance in his job?

The problem isn't that they were trying to build on one side of the ball or the other specifically.

The problem is that Carl let the ****ing idiots he hired to coach this team have too large a voice in the draft, and the ****ing morons made bad selections because they are piss poor talent evaluators on the side of the ball that they couldn't get fixed.

[milkman]

when exactly did this franchise lose their f*cking mind?

1974.

[DaKCMan AP]

Played well when given the opportunity before Zook replaced him with Chris Leak. Zook never really gave him a chance. While at UF, Ingle saw game action as a WR, P, and QB.

That's a load of bullshit. He was terrible at UF. He would underthrow receivers, one-hop it to a diving WR, etc. He was horrific. He also sucked at punting. When he transferred to Furman he, reportedly, tore it up there but while at UF he was awful and everyone wanted him on the bench.

[Fire Me Boy!]

wonder why we cut 2????

We cut two because Herm thought since he was getting a QB and a kicker, he'd need the spots.

****ing moron.

[RINGLEADER]

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He was playing against a prevent defense. A RAIDERS prevent defense.

But thanks for the clip.

[milkman]

We cut two because Herm thought since he was getting a QB and a kicker, he'd need the spots.

****ing moron.

Let's be fair.

I hate Herman ****ing Edwards as the HC of my Chiefs, but he cut two so he could bring in a healthy body at WR.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Let's be fair.

I hate Herman ****ing Edwards as the HC of my Chiefs, but he cut two so he could bring in a healthy body at WR.

Nope. I'm stickin' with "He's dumb."

:harumph:

[Pablo]

So.... you're talking out of your ass?

dIngle Martin is great at one-hopping a pass to a WR on a 10 yard route. He's garbage. Terrible. He should have never been drafted, never signed as a UDFA, never given a chance in the NFL yet he was somehow taken and has lasted for a few years. Unreal.So, he's just like Thigpen only hasn't had a chance to fail on our team yet?

I'll take that over Thigpen.

[Chief Bootknocka]

That's a load of bullshit. He was terrible at UF. He would underthrow receivers, one-hop it to a diving WR, etc. He was horrific. He also sucked at punting. When he transferred to Furman he, reportedly, tore it up there but while at UF he was awful and everyone wanted him on the bench.

Not true at all. Remember the Auburn game when Rex got hurt? Remember the Miami game he played well in, and then Leak went in and blew it? All UF fans remember is the UT game when he under threw a few passes. Everyone wanted him on the bench because they subscribed to the Leak hype out of high school. They never gave him a chance once Zook and Leak came in. Funny thing is, he would have been perfect for Meyer's offense.

[DaKCMan AP]

Not true at all. Remember the Auburn game when Rex got hurt? Remember the Miami game he played well in, and then Leak went in and blew it? All UF fans remember is the UT game when he under threw a few passes. Everyone wanted him on the bench because they subscribed to the Leak hype out of high school. They never gave him a chance once Zook and Leak came in. Funny thing is, he would have been perfect for Meyer's offense.

I remember watching dIngle Martin consistently one-hop it to WRs in the swamp. In the Miami game we were ahead because of kickass rushing by DeShawn Wynn (8 carries, 100 yards, 1TD) and Ran Carthon (15 carries, 67yds, 1TD) and a defensive TD from Keiwan Ratliff. We lost because the defense blew it.

[RustShack]

So I've heard this guy is accurate but doesn't have much of an arm. I've also read that he threw the ball harder than any other QB in the combine.. can anyone give a complete breakdown of this guy?

[Chiefnj2]

Scouting report notes from the day of the combine:

Ingle Martin - 4.68...threw well on the Out drill...pretty good downfield throws...threw the ball well in general...sloppy footwork...ball speed 61mph...

Brett Basanez - 6'1, 220...4.75...underthrew deep ball...

Kellen Clemens - 6'2, 224...threw well in the Out drill...good in the Dig drill...good downfield throws...pretty good throws on PC...

Brodie Croyle - 4.87 unofficial, 4.95 ...threw pretty well in the Out drill...accurate...one okay downfield throw...ball speed 58mph...

Jay Cutler - 4.77...big arm, but not always accurate...would have one good throw, then one off the target...ball speed 60 mph

Bruce Eugene - 5.08 unofficial...ball speed 55mph...

Bruce Gradkowski - 4.59...6'2...takes instructions well and does what he's supposed to...threw the ball okay...downfield throws were sloppy

Darrell Hackney - 4.76, 4.87 unofficial...good downfield throw...

Tavaris Jackson - 6'2, 226...4.75...good throws on PC...nice touch...ball speed 57mph...

Omar Jacobs - 6'4, 230...4.83 unofficial...good downfield throws...

[TrickyNicky]

Speaking of, whats Omar Jacobs up to lately?

[Chief Bootknocka]

Right from the Gator's mouth:

This is from Ingle's UF bio, which I am not able to link to here:

CAREER: Played in 16 games for a total of 246 plays with 4 starts...Saw time at quarterback, wide receiver and was the team's punter for seven of the last eight games of the 2002 season...Completed 54-of-87 career passes for 750 yards with his longest pass play gaining 50 yards...Averaged 35.2 yards per punt on 46 punts with 17 downed inside the 20-yard line...Transferred to Furman after the 2003 regular season…

2003: Started the first four games (SJSU, Miami, FAMU, Tennessee) at QB…Set a school record for quarterback debuts, throwing 43 consecutive passes without an interception…Made his first career start against San Jose State, hitting 14-of-23 passes for 196 yards and a touchdown, all career highs…Helped the Gators jump out to a commanding 30-3 lead at the half, connecting on 10-of-17 passes for 156 yards and a touchdown vs. San Jose State…The Gators scored on four-of-six possessions with Martin at the helm in the opener…Played a solid game against Miami, completing 7-of-10 passes for 114 yards and a touchdown before leaving the game with a concussion…Found Carlos Perez wide open for a career-best 50-yard touchdown pass that started a 30-0 run for the Gators vs. Miami…Had a 13-yard rush against Miami, the second longest run of his career…Completed an extremely efficient 10-of-12 outing against Florida A&M…Posted 139 yards passing, the second best total of his career, while finding DeShawn Wynn on an eight-yard touchdown pass vs. FAMU…Was named a UF game captain vs. Tennessee…Posted career highs in completions (16), attempts (32) and yards (205) against Tennessee…

2002: Saw action in 12 of 13 games (all but Miami) for 100 plays… Backup quarterback who was the starting punter (vs. Ole Miss, LSU, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, FSU and Michigan in the Outback Bowl)…Lined up at wide receiver in eight games (Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and FSU)…Completed seven of 10 passes for 96 yards…Caught two passes for 14 yards and rushed 11 times for 51 yards (4.6 average)…Averaged 35.2 yards per punt on 46 punts for 1,619 yards…Named a UF game captain the week of the LSU game…Led Gators on eight play, 68 yard scoring drive vs. Auburn to give UF a 14-0 lead …Averaged 5.3 yards per carry (4 rushes for 21 yards) against Auburn…Had two runs over 10 yards (14 yard rush vs. UAB and 11 yard rush vs. Auburn)…Booted a 70- yarder, during his collegiate punting debut vs. Ole Miss…70-yard punt vs. Ole Miss ties for fifth longest in UF history…Had eight punts vs. LSU for an average of 37.9 yds, including a 54-yarder…

2001: Spent the 2001 season with the scout team at quarterback and was redshirted…Won UF's John Eibner Award (presented annually to the unsung hero on the scout team)…

PREP: Considered one of the nation's top prep quarterbacks in 2000… Named to prestigious Parade All-America Team… Named to PrepStar's All-America Dream- Team and that publication ranked him among the nation's top dozen QBs… Ranked among the nation's top five prep QBs by National Bluechips… Ranked among the nation's top 20 QBs by Prep Football Report and among the nation's top 15 signal-callers by Rivals.com… Named to SuperPrep's All-America team and that publication ranked him the top player in the state of Tennessee and among the nation's top 25 QBs…A two-time Division II Player of the Year in Tennessee…Led Montgomery Bell Academy to three consecutive Tennessee state championships with 32 consecutive wins and final USA Today National Top 25 rankings in both 1999 and 2000…As a senior was 62-137 for 964 passing yards with seven TDs and also rushed for 935 yards…As a junior, 97-140 passing for 1,450 yards and 14 TDs…Was 6-of-9 on field goal attempts in 2000 with three field goals of better than 50 yards, including a school-record 56-yarder…Also visited Tennessee, LSU, Alabama and Virginia…

[Spott]

That's a load of bullshit. He was terrible at UF. He would underthrow receivers, one-hop it to a diving WR, etc. He was horrific. He also sucked at punting. When he transferred to Furman he, reportedly, tore it up there but while at UF he was awful and everyone wanted him on the bench.

I remember when he was at UF. He was basically the way you described him while he was there. I can't believe that he even made it to an NFL roster.