Glazer: KC called Cleveland regarding Quinn.

[BigVE]

Just reported it on FOX NFL Sunday...NO LINK. Hmmmm.

[Sure-Oz]

Hmm...and cleveland said hell no probably....

Lets hope Derek Anderson starts to do something, and i wouldn't trade our 1st for Quinn

[Brock]

And they probably laughed.

[milkman]

Link?

Did he also report that Phil Savage laughed hysterically when Carl told him the reason for the call?

[BigVE]

Said the rebuffed them. Probably a low-ball offer anyways.

[BigVE]

Link?

Did he also report that Phil Savage laughed hysterically when Carl told him the reason for the call?


LINK? NO. It was live TV.

[Spott]

Maybe they were calling about Quinn Gray and called the wrong number.

[Hootie]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

[BigChiefFan]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching. We can most likely get a BETTER QB with our number one overall pick next year. We need to ride out this season with what we have.

[Buck]

Cleveland would be smart to take your #1 pick, plus lets say a #5. Chances are its going to be a really low pick.

[banyon]

whoa

[Rausch]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

It'd be the first time we ever traded for a b/u with POTENTIAL...

[FringeNC]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

I like him more now than I did coming out of college. Without him, ND has been awful. I'd make that trade, but Cleveland won't.

[The Bad Guy]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

I agree with you.

They've made the investment for Anderson.

I think we'd have to give a 1 and a 3, but I'd do that.

[The Bad Guy]

Don't let Tribal Warfare see this.

His heart might explode.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Since when is a late first round unproven QB worth two picks?

[milkman]

Cleveland would be smart to take your #1 pick, plus lets say a #5. Chances are its going to be a really low pick.

Don't be shy, just say it.

We are going to get that #1 overall.

[Hootie]

I agree with you.

They've made the investment for Anderson.

I think we'd have to give a 1 and a 3, but I'd do that.

Exactly.

We get a top notch QB potentially, but we're paying him like a #21 overall pick, rather than a #1 overall pick. Matt Ryan makes more than Tom Brady.

We're not getting Quinn for anything less than what the Vikings paid for Jared Allen.

A high 1st and a 3rd for Quinn makes sense for this franchise.

[Marcellus]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

Me too. I would jump on that like a fat chick on a donut.

[BigVE]

Since when is a late first round unproven QB worth two picks?


Not normally but if you think about it in terms of MONEY think about this: IF we get the number one pick next year and pick up, say, Stafford from UGA how much money will HE be making? Dollar for dollar I would take Quinn.

[Hootie]

Since when is a late first round unproven QB worth two picks?

Everyone knows Brady Quinn was a top 5 pick that fell...

Would you take Aaron Rodgers for our 1st next season?

Exactly.

[BigChiefFan]

We are most likely giving up a top five pick for a player who has just as many question marks as a rookie and he's older-no thanks.

[kcxiv]

I like Quinn, but i wouldnt give a first rounder. Not when the Chiefs can potentially pick number 1 in the draft. A 2 and a 5 maybe.

[banyon]

Yeah, see if they'll take LJ and a #2.

[Cosmos]

With Dick Curl on board, there is no hope for the future.

[Hootie]

Not normally but if you think about it in terms of MONEY think about this: IF we get the number one pick next year and pick up, say, Stafford from UGA how much money will HE be making? Dollar for dollar I would take Quinn.

Only because from a potential standpoint, they are both very similar.

Except Stafford will get $40M guaranteed.

[Sure-Oz]

I'm not sold on getting rid of a top 5 pick, now if it was in the 13-20 range sure, but we all know we arent going to win more than 4 games. I won't bitch if we trade for Quinn though

[Hootie]

We are most likely getting up a top five pick for a player who has just as many question marks as a rookie and he's older-no thanks.

older?! Haha. He's what, 25??

Yeah, we'll get a top pick and if we use it on a QB we're going to commit $40M guaranteed...

I'll take Quinn and his 5 year, $9M contract and potential to be a franchise QB over our #1 overall and a 3rd round pick.

[Hootie]

Yeah, see if they'll take LJ and a #2.

There is no difference between LJ and Jamal Lewis...other than the fact Jamal Lewis might be better.

[milkman]

With Dick Curl on board, there is no hope for the future.

The great thing is that Quinn has received some actual NFL coaching for two years already.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

It doesn't matter who we bring in as a QB as long as Herm and Dick Curl are here.

How hard is it to hand off up the middle twice, throw a swing pass and go sit on the bench as the punter trots out onto the field?

[kcxiv]

Leave it up to Hootie for something crazy.

[BigChiefFan]

older?! Haha. He's what, 25??

Yeah, we'll get a top pick and if we use it on a QB we're going to commit $40M guaranteed...

I'll take Quinn and his 5 year, $9M contract and potential to be a franchise QB over our #1 overall and a 3rd round pick.We could have Sam Bradford and a quality RG instead. You don't rebuild giving up draft picks for a 25 year old QB with just as many question marks as a rookie, IMO, especially behind this O-Line.

[Hootie]

What does this franchise need more than anything? A QB.

If we land the #1 overall (which is likely), who will we draft? Probably Stafford.

Do you guys really like Stafford ($40M guaranteed) more than Quinn (5 years, $9M)...?

Not me. They have similar potential if you ask me. Quinn has learned what life is like in the NFL for two years and is a hell of a QB...I'd be ecstatic if we got him for a 1st and a 2nd...

He is the most logic piece for this franchise...nothing makes more sense than doing anything possible to acquire Brady Quinn.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I just don't see see it no way is quin worth a number one pick to a rebuilding franchise.

[banyon]

There is no difference between LJ and Jamal Lewis...other than the fact Jamal Lewis might be better.

I was thinking LJ was younger than Jamal, but he's really not. I forgot how early Jamal came out from Tennessee.

Of course LJ does have less wear on the tire and has not been to federal prison, so there are some differences for you.

[The Bad Guy]

The Browns aren't giving this guy up for less than they paid.

They gave up a #1 to get him.

If you want him, you have to go above that 1.

Just so I'm clear, do all the anti-Quinn people want to spend that #1 that they wouldn't spend on Quinn on a QB?

[kcxiv]

I rather have Rey Mualuaga.

[Hootie]

We could have Sam Bradford and a quality RG instead. You don't rebuild giving up draft picks for a 25 year old QB with just as many question marks as a rookie, IMO, especially behind this O-Line.

We could pay a QB like Tom Brady that has the same potential as Brady Quinn and hold on to that 3rd round pick and draft Brad Cottam.

Yaaay.

[kcxiv]

The Browns aren't giving this guy up for less than they paid.

They gave up a #1 to get him.

If you want him, you have to go above that 1.

Just so I'm clear, do all the anti-Quinn people want to spend that #1 that they wouldn't spend on Quinn on a QB?

The thing is they will. If Derrick Anderson is a stud. They will want to get something from Quinn. Why would they have their number 1 pick just sit there and rott? in the end it hurts them more then anything else.

[Skip Towne]

Letting Dick Curl coach a top flight QB is like letting Hootie work on your Maserati.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Just so I'm clear, do all the anti-Quinn people want to spend that #1 that they wouldn't spend on Quinn on a QB?Yes, either this or we could trade back up into the first to get a QB about the spot where Quin or Rodgers dropped to.

[banyon]

The Browns aren't giving this guy up for less than they paid.

They gave up a #1 to get him.

If you want him, you have to go above that 1.

Just so I'm clear, do all the anti-Quinn people want to spend that #1 that they wouldn't spend on Quinn on a QB?

I understand that they want a #1, but not THE #1, which is probably what we'll have. Maybe we need to package some of our other picks or players and get a mid 1st rounder to trade.

[Hootie]

I just don't see see it no way is quin worth a number one pick to a rebuilding franchise.

I only agree if our rebuilding franchise doesn't plan on drafting a QB with our top 5 pick.

If we take Oher, I'm fine with passing on Quinn and taking a QB in 2009.

If we take Stafford, or Bradford, or Sanchez or whoever in the top 5...and pay them like Tom Brady...if we had a CHANCE at Quinn and passed because we wanted one of these guys instead I won't be happy.

[BigChiefFan]

What does this franchise need more than anything? A QB.

If we land the #1 overall (which is likely), who will we draft? Probably Stafford.

Do you guys really like Stafford ($40M guaranteed) more than Quinn (5 years, $9M)...?

Not me. They have similar potential if you ask me. Quinn has learned what life is like in the NFL for two years and is a hell of a QB...I'd be ecstatic if we got him for a 1st and a 2nd...

He is the most logic piece for this franchise...nothing makes more sense than doing anything possible to acquire Brady Quinn.
I'm not sold that Stafford will be the first QB taken next year.

[The Bad Guy]

I just don't see see it no way is quin worth a number one pick to a rebuilding franchise.

Because he's a young QB under an inexpensive rookie contract?

Brady Quinn is only 24 years old.

I forgot though, everyone we are rebuilding with must be a rookie to have success.

[Hootie]

The thing is they will. If Derrick Anderson is a stud. They will want to get something from Quinn. Why would they have their number 1 pick just sit there and rott? in the end it hurts them more then anything else.

Let's pray to God that Derek Anderson works out...because if the Browns start out 0-4, we can kiss our Brady Quinn dream goodbye.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'd be very surprised if Cleveland takes anything less than the equivalent of the Chiefs' first round pick for Quinn.

That may be a second rounder and a player or two, but I really don't think the Chiefs have any players to offer that the Browns — or anyone else — would be interested in.

Hey, how 'bout that Sippio! guy? Is he still available? I've read here that he's the next coming of Jerry Rice or something.

[Hootie]

I'm not sold that Stafford will be the first QB taken next year.

Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez...whatever.

I'd rather have Quinn, his experience, his contract over any of those three...regardless of how BIG their arms (most overrated aspect of a QB) might be.

[Rausch]

older?! Haha. He's what, 25??

Yeah, we'll get a top pick and if we use it on a QB we're going to commit $40M guaranteed...

I'll take Quinn and his 5 year, $9M contract and potential to be a franchise QB over our #1 overall and a 3rd round pick.

Yeah.

I don't like giving away a top 5 pick though.

Perhaps some way to swap picks.

[JuicesFlowing]

We have 2 QB's going into ATL. Our 3rd stringer Ingle Martin isn't even on the active roster. That's all I need to know about our QB situation. Maybe they can hike it to LJ every single play.

[Hootie]

People aren't looking at this the right way.

If you're on the 'I want the top 5 pick because I want a LT, MLB, WR, blah blah blah playmaker', I'm ok with that.

But if we're keeping a top 5 pick because you want a QB...you're on crack if you wouldn't trade that for Quinn. He makes way more sense than drafting a QB that high next year.

[ClevelandBronco]

The great thing is that Quinn has received some actual NFL coaching for two years already.

You overestimate "Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou, Romeo?" and his staff.

[kcxiv]

I'd be very surprised if Cleveland takes anything less than the equivalent of the Chiefs' first round pick for Quinn.

That may be a second rounder and a player or two, but I really don't think the Chiefs have any players to offer that the Browns — or anyone else — would be interested in.

Hey, how 'bout that Sippio! guy? Is he still available? I've read here that he's the next coming of Jerry Rice or something.

Dont be a tard. No one thought sippio was Rice. People just wanted him to succeed becuase he was a good story. Chapter closed though.

There is no point in having a first rounder sit back up while you can get something decent for him. ANderson is young, its not like Rodgers in Green Bay.

[beach tribe]

We could pay a QB like Tom Brady that has the same potential as Brady Quinn and hold on to that 3rd round pick and draft Brad Cottam.

Yaaay.

This does make alot of sense. If we pick a QB top 3 this year, were gonna have to pay him way more than quinn, and I think Quinn is the better prospect, and has had time to catch up to the game. Its like hes been sitting on our bench waiting to come in, and if we could pick up a lineman or two, quinn to bowe could go into effect.

[The Bad Guy]

Yeah.

I don't like giving away a top 5 pick though.

Perhaps some way to swap picks.

I guess I fail to see the difference in "giving away" a pick for a QB, or drafting one in the top 5.

The cap savings would be about 40 million.

[Hootie]

Yeah.

I don't like giving away a top 5 pick though.

Perhaps some way to swap picks.

I'm sorry, I'm just not a fan of paying a QB like Tom Brady when he's never played an NFL down.

Give me Quinn and his $9M contract. You can have our #1.

[milkman]

I rather have Rey Mualuaga.

Nobody likes Maualuga more than me, but this is now, more than ever, a QB driven league.

I'd trade for Quinn and hope that Brandon Spikes declares and is sitting there at the top of the second.

Even without Spikes, I'm trading for Quinn.

[Mr. Laz]

i'd trade for Quinn ..... BUT NOT our 1st rounder


you don't trade the 1st pick of the draft for Brady Quinn :eek:

[ChiefsFanatic]

Because he's a young QB under an inexpensive rookie contract?

Brady Quinn is only 24 years old.

I forgot though, everyone we are rebuilding with must be a rookie to have success.

I am sick of some of the local radio stations because they keep slipping, and calling Croyle a rookie.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Unfortunately for us all we don't get to make this call. Carl will make this call so bet your ass it will be the wrong decision.

[kcxiv]

Let's pray to God that Derek Anderson works out...because if the Browns start out 0-4, we can kiss our Brady Quinn dream goodbye.

Yep, but drafting a middle linebacker like Rey would be a thing of beauty for this team. He has a lower chance to be a bust as compared to a QB. This team needs that defense turned around. No more ****ing Pat Thomas. lol

[Hootie]

Here's the thing...

We trade our #1 for Quinn...Quinn flops...it doesn't set us back 5 years because the cap implications won't be shit.

We take a QB #1, he flops, we're *****ed for at least 5 years.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'd rather have Quinn, his experience...

His experience.

Okay.

I must have missed all that NFL experience that Quinn has.

[Hootie]

i'd trade for Quinn ..... BUT NOT our 1st rounder


you don't trade the 1st pick of the draft for Brady Quinn :eek:

Then you're not getting Quinn.

Would you trade our 1st rounder for Aaron Rodgers?

Seriously. We need nothing more than a QB and Brady Quinn was supposed to go #3 overall to the Browns that year...the fact they landed Joe Thomas AND Brady Quinn is still unbelievable to me...

[milkman]

You overestimate "Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou, Romeo?" and his staff.

No.

I just think that Herman ****ing Edwards and his staff make Crennell and his staff look like Bill walsh and the 9er staff by comparison.

[Hootie]

His experience.

Okay.

I must have missed all that NFL experience that Quinn has.

He has two years. Two years of learning how to be an NFL player.

Did wonders for Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.

[ArrowheadHawk]

He has two years. Two years of learning how to be an NFL player.

Did wonders for Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.
And Alex Smith?

[ClevelandBronco]

Here's the thing...

We trade our #1 for Quinn...Quinn flops...it doesn't set us back 5 years because the cap implications won't be shit.

We take a QB #1, he flops, we're *****ed for at least 5 years.

Actually, that's a pretty good guess as to how this whole thing goes down.

[Hootie]

No.

I just think that Herman ****ing Edwards and his staff make Crennell and his staff look like Bill walsh and the 9er staff by comparison.

You must have missed the Browns game the other week when they kicked a field goal in the fourth to keep it a three score game.

[Shag]

His experience.

Okay.

I must have missed all that NFL experience that Quinn has.

He does have more NFL experience than any QB KC would draft...

[milkman]

Yep, but drafting a middle linebacker like Rey would be a thing of beauty for this team. He has a lower chance to be a bust as compared to a QB. This team needs that defense turned around. No more ****ing Pat Thomas. lol

And this offense doen't need to be turned around?

[Mr. Laz]

Here's the thing...

We trade our #1 for Quinn...Quinn flops...it doesn't set us back 5 years because the cap implications won't be shit.

We take a QB #1, he flops, we're *****ed for at least 5 years.

this is a good point

[Hootie]

And Alex Smith?

Alex Smith was thrown into the fire right away and threw 1 TD pass and 11 INT's his rookie year.

I don't understand the correlation.

[kcxiv]

And this offense doen't need to be turned around?

Sure it does. So does the defense. I rather have a great defense and a average or even a little below average offense, over a good offense and a ok defense. WE have had a bad defense for so long that i rather that side of the ball get fixed first.

[ILChief]

Good. I'd love to have Quinn. If Cleveland doesn't want to deal, we should call Arizona about Leinart

[kcxiv]

I dont mind if they try to sign Smith next year, but do NOT hand him a starting spot.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Alex Smith was thrown into the fire right away and threw 1 TD pass and 11 INT's his rookie year.

I don't understand the correlation.
He does have three years of nfl experience. Lot of good that does him.

[beach tribe]

He has two years. Two years of learning how to be an NFL player.

Did wonders for Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.

Youre dead on, on this. Its the right move.

We´ll still be picking right at the top of the 2nd.

[Mr. Laz]

btw .... don't give up on this Quinn thing yet

Anderson hasn't shown Cleveland enough yet, but look who they have play so far this season

Dallas
Pittsburgh


two of the toughest teams in the league with 2 very physical defenses.

it's not like Anderson looked crappy against the Faiders or something

[Hootie]

this is a good point

which is why, regardless of how much we like Sam Bradford more than Brady Quinn, Quinn makes the most sense for this franchise.

I don't think Quinn is going to be the next Peyton Manning, but I think he can be a winning QB.

We save SO much money with Quinn...we can do so many more things...and when we're ready to compete we'll have the ability to sign anyone for anything.

[beach tribe]

Good. I'd love to have Quinn. If Cleveland doesn't want to deal, we should call Arizona about Leinart

Yeah, and offer them a 4th.

[Hootie]

He does have three years of nfl experience. Lot of good that does him.
well you totally missed my point...go figure.

[1ChiefsDan]

Unfortunately for us all we don't get to make this call. Carl will make this call so bet your ass it will be the wrong decision.
Regardless of what side of the discussion you are on - this is probably the best statement in this thread.

[Hootie]

I think this is a moot point, though.

I see Quinn as the starter in Cleveland sooner rather than later.

We can give a 3rd for Derek Anderson!!

[ArrowheadHawk]

well you totally missed my point...go figure.
How do you know that Quin wouldn't perform like Smith? You don't your betting a first round pick on a player that is not good enough to start on his own team.

[DT58HOF]

i'd trade for Quinn ..... BUT NOT our 1st rounder


you don't trade the 1st pick of the draft for Brady Quinn :eek:
why not if Brady Quinn would of come out after the 2005 season he would of been the number 1 pick, and if we trade for him now, we wont have a high pick anyways because we will win some football games, he is a proven winner and at a cheap Salary as well, READ MY LIPS
THERE IS NO QB IN THE DRAFT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BRADY QUINN (FUTURE HALL OF FAMER)

[beach tribe]

I think this is a moot point, though.

I see Quinn as the starter in Cleveland sooner rather than later.

We can give a 3rd for Derek Anderson!!

Like i said, Anderson will be our Brees.

[beach tribe]

How do you know that Quin wouldn't perform like Smith? You don't your betting a first round pick on a player that is not good enough to start on his own team.

Brady would have gotten his shot, had anderson not come in, and light it up.

You just cant bench a guy playing like that.

[ClevelandBronco]

Dont be a tard. No one thought sippio was Rice. People just wanted him to succeed becuase he was a good story. Chapter closed though.

There is no point in having a first rounder sit back up while you can get something decent for him. ANderson is young, its not like Rodgers in Green Bay.

Don't be a tard. It's obviously a joke, as was Sippio!.

[Hootie]

How do you know that Quin wouldn't perform like Smith? You don't your betting a first round pick on a player that is not good enough to start on his own team.
My point was...

Rivers and Rodgers didn't sniff the field.

Smith was thrown right into the fire on a horrible team and it ruined his career.

Do I know Quinn will be great? Absolutely not. He could be WORSE than Smith. He could be the worst QB of all time.

But for this franchise, giving up a 1st for Quinn makes nothing but sense.

[MIAdragon]

You must have missed the Browns game the other week when they kicked a field goal in the fourth to keep it a three score game.


LoL what a Herm call that was.

[ClevelandBronco]

He does have more NFL experience than any QB KC would draft...

Hmm. Maybe that makes him worth more than your top five pick.

[RealSNR]

What if we swap 1st rounders with Cleveland and give them a 2nd rounder for Quinn?

[RNR]

What has he done to make some of you guys willing to give what will most likely be a top 5 or higher pick+ for him? I am not trying to flame I just am wondering. I understand the cap part as I don't even want to know what Oakland paid per yard last week for all 57 yards they got from their high dollar QB. Quinn was passed over by teams needing a QB he has done nothing but get beat out and seems to be nothing more than a "name". NFL GMs seemed to be rather unimpreesed with him and he has done nothing to prove them wrong IMO. As far as the cap slot issue KC could trade out of that pick picking up players and draft picks.

[dj56dt58]

I like Quinn, but i wouldnt give a first rounder. Not when the Chiefs can potentially pick number 1 in the draft. A 2 and a 5 maybe.

I dont get it..Quinn already has some experience and would prbably be good righ away ala Aaron Rodgers..You'd rather have draft a rookie who hasnt taken a snap in the NFL who we would end up paying more money for? Quinn in college was better than Stafford is imo

[The Bad Guy]

I love some of you that would be so generous to part with a 2nd and a 5 for Quinn.

You are probably the same tards that think Brodie is the true answer.

[DT58HOF]

I love some of you that would be so generous to part with a 2nd and a 5 for Quinn.

You are probably the same tards that think Brodie is the true answer.

wtf? a 2nd and a 5th? we cant get a good player in the first round let alone the 5th, so what does it matter?
i say trade the whole draft for quinn, we can't draft good players anyway!

[aturnis]

wtf? a 2nd and a 5th? we cant get a good player in the first round let alone the 5th, so what does it matter?
i say trade the whole draft for quinn, we can't draft good players anyway!

Are you serious? Or just special?

[aturnis]

Anyone consider trading a pick away for Brian Brohm? It doesn't look like they'll need him, Rodgers is playing great.

[evolve27]

Anyone consider trading a pick away for Brian Brohm?

Every Sunday I think about it.

[dj56dt58]

How do you know that Quin wouldn't perform like Smith? You don't your betting a first round pick on a player that is not good enough to start on his own team.

Rodgers wasn't good enough to start, neither was Brady..most quarterbacks dont start right away

[Shag]

Anyone consider trading a pick away for Brian Brohm? It doesn't look like they'll need him, Rodgers is playing great.

I've wondered myself why this hasn't come up. Granted, he looked terrible in the preseason and is sitting 3rd on their depth chart, but I would think it should at least garner some consideration...

[keg in kc]

Not sure how I'd feel about it. I really, really didn't like Quinn coming out and I thought the Browns did us a favor. But I'd rather acquire a young QB that's been groomed for a couple of years than draft one in '09. I'd like to see us winning games sometime before 2011.

[Smed1065]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.
???

[CosmicPal]

You have to figure what must be going through Peterson's mind right now.

Only 2 things can happen here:

1. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a stud, franchise-saving QB, AND more importantly, saves Peterson his job in the final year of his contract.

or...

2. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a flop, thus setting the franchise back a few more years, and costs Peterson his job in his final year of his contract.

[Frankie]

QUINN= OVER-HYPED NOTRE DAME QB!

If the chiefs give the Browns a 1st for him (or even a high 2nd) I'll go postal. And I'm a peaceful man.

[Brock]

QUINN= OVER-HYPED NOTRE DAME QB!

If the chiefs give the Browns a 1st for him (or even a high 2nd) I'll go postal. And I'm a peaceful man.

But then, you're noted for thinking Brodie Croyle can play.

[JuicesFlowing]

You have to figure what must be going through Peterson's mind right now.

Only 2 things can happen here:

1. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a stud, franchise-saving QB, AND more importantly, saves Peterson his job in the final year of his contract.

or...

2. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a flop, thus setting the franchise back a few more years, and costs Peterson his job in his final year of his contract.


His job is already in question, so what's to lose?

[ClevelandBronco]

What if we swap 1st rounders with Cleveland and give them a 2nd rounder for Quinn?

Trade firsts and give Cleveland Colquitt.

[Chiefshrink]

With Dick Curl on board, there is no hope for the future.

precisely:shake:

[PastorMikH]

oops, wrong thread

[BigVE]

Trade firsts and give Cleveland Colquitt.

NOW we are talking CRAZY TALK! Colquitt is our MVP!!!

[Chiefshrink]

What has he done to make some of you guys willing to give what will most likely be a top 5 or higher pick+ for him? I am not trying to flame I just am wondering. I understand the cap part as I don't even want to know what Oakland paid per yard last week for all 57 yards they got from their high dollar QB. Quinn was passed over by teams needing a QB he has done nothing but get beat out and seems to be nothing more than a "name". NFL GMs seemed to be rather unimpreesed with him and he has done nothing to prove them wrong IMO. As far as the cap slot issue KC could trade out of that pick picking up players and draft picks.

Now here is some common sense thinking.:thumb:

And let me add some more, I don't give a rat's ass if you have Brady,Manning,McNabb or Ryan back there QBing if you don't have the horses in front of you, every QB you have will end up on their ass and throwing INTS PERIOD.:grr:

Our trenches on both sides of the ball are NOT solidified!!:cuss: Do not trade away picks for an unproven and especially if you can't protect him.:grr:

I agree, trade out of the No1 spot if we can and acquire more picks!!:thumb:

[Chiefshrink]

NOW we are talking CRAZY TALK! Colquitt is our MVP!!!

You are kidding, right????? He is the only defense we have right now. And not to mention potential Pro Bowler this year.:thumb:

[The Bad Guy]

QUINN= OVER-HYPED NOTRE DAME QB!

If the chiefs give the Browns a 1st for him (or even a high 2nd) I'll go postal. And I'm a peaceful man.

No offense, but your ability to indentify talent on this board is severely lacking.

If you think it's a bad idea, it probably isn't.

[aturnis]

Rodgers wasn't good enough to start, neither was Brady..most quarterbacks dont start right away

Who says Rodgers wasn't good enough to start? It would be RETARDED to start him over Favre. Hell, it was retarded to trade Favre away this year.

[aturnis]

No offense, but your ability to indentify talent on this board is severely lacking.

If you think it's a bad idea, it probably isn't.

That's what you ALWAYS say!


Might be true.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I would not give our first rounder for him. A third, yes. A second, I don't know.

[The Bad Guy]

I would not give our first rounder for him. A third, yes. A second, I don't know.

That's a good idea for the Browns.

Trade away a #1 to get him.

Ship him out for a 3rd 2 years later.

[Frankie]

But then, you're noted for thinking Brodie Croyle can play.
"Thinking" does not mean being absolutely sure. If you don't know the diff, here's your chance to learn something. All I have insisted on was we should go ahead and give him this year to prove himself. That said, I still "think" he can play. His issue is durability. Not talent. And let's see if he will last out the year after he comes back.

[Frankie]

No offense, but your ability to indentify talent on this board is severely lacking.

If you think it's a bad idea, it probably isn't.

Examples, please.

[DomerNKC]

A second rounder perhaps, nothing else. Second of all, giving these idiots more picks is stupid. The last successful player they drafted they traded to minnesota. The answer is to clean house before more damage is done.

[ClevelandBronco]

That's a good idea for the Browns.

Trade away a #1 to get him.

Ship him out for a 3rd 2 years later.

Exactly. The Browns will do no such thing.

Think bigger, guys.

[The Bad Guy]

Examples, please.

Brodie Croyle.

I don't care enough to dig through the archives to show more.

[Mecca]

Brodie Croyle.

I don't care enough to dig through the archives to show more.

If we wanted to develop a mid round QB it looks like that exception is Trent Edwards....

[Rausch]

I've changed my mind.

Save those picks for the next HC/GM to build a team.

They've had their 3 years, next...

[Frankie]

Brodie Croyle.

I don't care enough to dig through the archives to show more.

Take away the injuries and Croyle and Quinn, basically have the same resume talent-wise. The difference is Quinn played for the "mighty" Notre Dame and got all the hype.

[Hootie]

Trade firsts and give Cleveland Colquitt.
our best player?

[Hootie]

Take away the injuries and Croyle and Quinn, basically have the same resume talent-wise. The difference is Quinn played for the "mighty" Notre Dame and got all the hype.

I don't think the scouts look at that Chief.

[ClevelandBronco]

our best player?

Arguably your only player.

[DT58HOF]

I Like Young Boys,You're just mad your not young enough.

wow?

[FringeNC]

Take away the injuries and Croyle and Quinn, basically have the same resume talent-wise. The difference is Quinn played for the "mighty" Notre Dame and got all the hype.

Give me a break. I'm not ready to completely give up on Croyle, but Quinn was battle-tested week in and week out. Quinn made Charlie Weis look like a genius. What have they done since Quinn left?

[Sure-Oz]

Anderson has a TD pass so far, go cleveland, make Quinn expendable

[Frankie]

Give me a break. I'm not ready to completely give up on Croyle, but Quinn was battle-tested week in and week out. Quinn made Charlie Weis look like a genius. What have they done since Quinn left?

What had they done WHILE he was there?

[oaklandhater]

If we traded away our 1st pick for a QB who almost fell to the 2nd round just to save some $$$ this is the shit that is killing the chiefs we allways try to do shit different then other NFL teams.

we need to draft the best QB on board this April bite the bullet pay him his money and hope he works out if he doesn't cry me a river build a bridge and get over it thats the way the NFL WORKS...

[Micjones]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

I'd flinch at giving them a Top 5 pick AND a Fourth, but I'd definitely let that #1 fly.

I feel a lot better knowing that they at least called to inquire about Quinn.

Lord please help us get this done...

[Pitt Gorilla]

That's a good idea for the Browns.

Trade away a #1 to get him.

Ship him out for a 3rd 2 years later.
I honestly don't care about the Browns' perspective. No way would I ship a top pick for him.

[Micjones]

If we traded away our 1st pick for a QB who almost fell to the 2nd round just to save some $$$ this is the shit that is killing the chiefs we allways try to do shit different then other NFL teams.

There were another 10 picks after Quinn was taken.
He was in no danger of falling out of the First Round.
The Chiefs would've taken him if Cleveland had not.

Additionally after the initial 10 picks were off the board there really weren't many teams that needed to make such an investment on a QB.

I would absolutely trade away that #1.
That would save us a bunch of jack and we'd be getting a QB who has been a part of an NFL program for 2 years. As opposed to a complete unknown with no NFL experience.

[ClevelandBronco]

There were another 10 picks after Quinn was taken.
He was in no danger of falling out of the First Round.
The Chiefs would've taken him if Cleveland had not.

Additionally after the initial 10 picks were off the board there really weren't many teams that needed to make such an investment on a QB.

I would absolutely trade away that #1.
That would save us a bunch of jack and we'd be getting a QB who has been a part of an NFL program for 2 years. As opposed to a complete unknown with no NFL experience.

That's it.

[Chiefaholic]

Let the season play out to see where everybody lands draft position wise. If/when we take the #1 spot, trade down, acquire more picks, THEN pull the trigger on a Quinn trade. We have too many damn holes to fill to trade away the #1 overall for a single player.

[oaklandhater]

There were another 10 picks after Quinn was taken.
He was in no danger of falling out of the First Round.
The Chiefs would've taken him if Cleveland had not.

Additionally after the initial 10 picks were off the board there really weren't many teams that needed to make such an investment on a QB.

I would absolutely trade away that #1.
That would save us a bunch of jack and we'd be getting a QB who has been a part of an NFL program for 2 years. As opposed to a complete unknown with no NFL experience.

Chances are we will be TRADEING away the number one pick in the NFL what are you afraid of it?

He has been siting behind derek anderson he is geting paid shit money becuase he has less potential then any QB we take with the 1st round pick thats just the way the NFL works.

[oaklandhater]

Let the season play out to see where everybody lands draft position wise. If/when we take the #1 spot, trade down, acquire more picks, THEN pull the trigger on a Quinn trade. We have too many damn holes to fill to trade away the #1 overall for a single player.

WE need to take the best QB on the board at 1 its time this organisation takes a shot a getting a franchise QB we so desperately need.

[Gravedigger]

With Quarterbacks you could get the best or the worst. You see all these quarterbacks that we had the chance to get that are now just plowing ahead and everyone taking the success while we're stuck with our pick. Todd Blacklidge falls into this category, I say that we should do it because we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

[TrickyNicky]

Quinn comes in and gets us to 7-9 in 3 years.

Carl: Perrrrrrrfect.

[oaklandhater]

every other team is going to think we are BATshit insane if we give up the 1 pick in the nfl for a a mid-low 1st round qb who has done nothing in the NFL...

[oaklandhater]

Quinn comes in and gets us to 7-9 in 3 years.

Carl: Perrrrrrrfect.

Better yet Quinn comes in and is less then avg it will go down has the most Boneheaded TRADE IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL

[Frankie]

That's it.
Wow. A Cleveland fan encouraging this frenzy.

[TrickyNicky]

I'm more afraid that if Carl trades for Quinn, he would keep his job.

[blueballs]

browns don't trade Quinn for draft picks
until they know he can't help them change the picking order
trade him now and just **** themselves out of a higher pick

[FringeNC]

every other team is going to think we are BATshit insane ...

Teams already think that -- Herm is our ****ing coach.

[The Bad Guy]

Wow. A Cleveland fan encouraging this frenzy.

He's a Bronco fan, genius.

[Frankie]

Let the season play out to see where everybody lands draft position wise. If/when we take the #1 spot, trade down, acquire more picks, THEN pull the trigger on a Quinn trade. We have too many damn holes to fill to trade away the #1 overall for a single player.

WTF? RREASON?... In this frenzy of unreasonable lust for an unproven, over-hyped QB? I'm amazed.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'm more afraid that if Carl trades for Quinn, he would keep his job.

BINGO!

[oaklandhater]

I'm more afraid that if Carl trades for Quinn, he would keep his job.

you should be more afraid of the trade the 1st pick in the Draft for a benchwarmer the chiefs all rdy have too many worst we dont need worst trade in the history of the nfl to add to our resume.

[MichaelH]

I can't read 10 pages. They probably would laugh at the fact that Peterdick would offer a 7th rounder for him.

[Sure-Oz]

IF i were a cleveland fan i'd want a top 5 pick in return for Quinn easy

[blueballs]

Chiefs today pick #1 over all
with Quinn it could fall as far as 5th or 6th

[oaklandhater]

IF i were a cleveland fan i'd want a top 5 pick in return for Quinn easy

WTF they should feel lucky if they get what they gave for him which is a low 1st round pick our 2nd + a 4th or 5th would be borderline overpaying for a benchwarmer.

[Frankie]

He's a Bronco fan, genius.

I know that. But I'm sure he is a Cleveland fan as well being a resident there. My bad though. I stand corrected.

Wow. A Bronco fan encouraging this frenzy over a bad idea for the Chiefs. Who'da thunk that?

The point stands. Now maybe you get it.

[Sure-Oz]

Anderson threw an INT for a TD, is 11-28 120 yards 1 td 2 ints

Brady is not going to get here

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Anderson isn't going to be starting in another month.

[Brock]

"Thinking" does not mean being absolutely sure. If you don't know the diff, here's your chance to learn something. All I have insisted on was we should go ahead and give him this year to prove himself. That said, I still "think" he can play. His issue is durability. Not talent. And let's see if he will last out the year after he comes back.

If you don't have durability, you can't play. Next.

[Halfcan]

We should get the #1 pick the next two years if Hermy is still here. I doubt we win at all this year.

[Sure-Oz]

Anderson just threw his 3rd pick, its quinn time

[BigMeatballDave]

Anderson threw an INT for a TD, is 11-28 120 yards 1 td 2 ints

Brady is not going to get hereAnderson sucks. Alot of people around here wanted him. Granted, he's better than we have now, but if he cannot perform behind that line, imagine how horrible he'd be behind ours. I bet Brady starts next week, maybe not until after their bye, though.

[chiefs1111]

Anderson sucks. Alot of people around here wanted him. Granted, he's better than we have now, but if he cannot perform behind that line, imagine how horrible he'd be behind ours. I bet Brady starts next week, maybe not until after their bye, though.

He sure turned into a flop pretty quick

[Frankie]

Anderson just threw his 3rd pick, its quinn time

Maybe we can get Anderson cheap. :hmmm:

[Frankie]

Anderson sucks. Alot of people around here wanted him. Granted, he's better than we have now, but if he cannot perform behind that line, imagine how horrible he'd be behind ours. I bet Brady starts next week, maybe not until after their bye, though.

Maybe we can get Anderson even cheaper. :hmmm:

[Frankie]

He sure turned into a flop pretty quick

That's the case with flashes in the pan more often than not.

[blueballs]

The best QBs in the league were chosen
while in panic mode

[DomerNKC]

Take away the injuries and Croyle and Quinn, basically have the same resume talent-wise. The difference is Quinn played for the "mighty" Notre Dame and got all the hype.That and the fact that Quinn is bigger, stronger, faster, more durable and smarter. Pretty much the same guy. Lord knows if Brady is a better NFL Quarterback or not. Sour grapes much Frankie.

[Valiant]

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

Because Quinn would agree to be traded without a new contract??

[Toad]

Me too. I would jump on that like a fat chick on a donut.


You'd jump on a fat chick on a donut? Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Just trying to bring a little humer in.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

You'd jump on a fat chick on a donut? Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Just trying to bring a little humer in.

LMAO Mission accomplished.

[DT58HOF]

Im serious let Brock QB the Chiefs next week!!

[boogblaster]

The QB spot on this roster is vanillia creme ....

[Shaid]

No QB will survive behind this line. If we end up with the #1 pick, take Oher and move Albert to the Right side. You've got bookend tackles for the next 10 years. Then take a quality QB at the top of round 2. If we end up lower than the top pick, see who's available and if a good QB is there with the proper value, take him. If not, get a great MLB or DE or trade down a few spots. QB in Round 1 is not an absolute because we have other needs as well. Brady Quinn is not worth a #1 overall pick. Hell, they can give us Brady Quinn and their #1 or #2 pick for our #1 overall pick.

[Hootie]

Because Quinn would agree to be traded without a new contract??

...yes?

[blueballs]

The next GM will have to get a DV type coach
who brings in a QB with him
just not giving up picks for both the coach and QB

[Hootie]

No QB will survive behind this line. If we end up with the #1 pick, take Oher and move Albert to the Right side. You've got bookend tackles for the next 10 years. Then take a quality QB at the top of round 2. If we end up lower than the top pick, see who's available and if a good QB is there with the proper value, take him. If not, get a great MLB or DE or trade down a few spots. QB in Round 1 is not an absolute because we have other needs as well. Brady Quinn is not worth a #1 overall pick. Hell, they can give us Brady Quinn and their #1 or #2 pick for our #1 overall pick.

If we take Oher I think we move Albert to LG and Waters to C or RG...preferably C.