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bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:03 PM
Edit: PFR factored in Detroit and St. Louis' bye weeks.

I stand corrected from the almighty OnTheWarpath58. We're 30th in total defense; not 32nd.

I apologize. We're, in fact, much, much better than I was led to believe. We're 29th/30th in offense (yards/points) and 30th/30th in defense.
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:04 PM
Hum? I thought Herm was a Defensive Guru?

Hum? But DV this and DV that..... It must be Al Jesus Saunders fault?

Gunther will feel Herms tires this offseason...
FAX
10-07-2008, 01:07 PM
That, my friends, is unbelievable. Okay. Let's see here. When Herm arrived, he was going to fix the defense. He drafted safeties and a DE in his first draft and Dlinemen in his second draft. He's brought in over 20 linebackers at various times, installed the C2, worked closely with Gunther, and run an overall gameplan that is defense-oriented.

And, we're last in total defense. Those are results that will get you to the show, for sure.

FAX
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:10 PM
That, my friends, is unbelievable. Okay. Let's see here. When Herm arrived, he was going to fix the defense. He drafted safeties and a DE in his first draft and Dlinemen in his second draft. He's brought in over 20 linebackers at various times, installed the C2, worked closely with Gunther, and run an overall gameplan that is defense-oriented.

And, we're last in total defense. Those are results that will get you to the show, for sure.

FAX
At least he never touched the offense....

Its sad to see this bullshit artist come in and spew trash out his cock holster....
OnTheWarpath15
10-07-2008, 01:11 PM
Last I checked, there were 32 teams in the NFL.

Not that 30th is much better, but currently the Rams and Lions are ranked 31 and 32 - and are giving up 10 PPG more.


KC is 30th in yards allowed, and 27th in points allowed.
bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:11 PM
That, my friends, is unbelievable. Okay. Let's see here. When Herm arrived, he was going to fix the defense. He drafted safeties and a DE in his first draft and Dlinemen in his second draft. He's brought in over 20 linebackers at various times, installed the C2, worked closely with Gunther, and run an overall gameplan that is defense-oriented.

And, we're last in total defense. Those are results that will get you to the show, for sure.

FAX
Ironically our offense is better (thru four games) this year than we were last year.
bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:12 PM
Last I checked, there were 32 teams in the NFL.
I know. We're 32nd in total defense; like I said.
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:12 PM
We're 30th.
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:13 PM
Last I checked, there were 32 teams in the NFL.

Not that 30th is much better, but currently the Rams and Lions are ranked 31 and 32 - and are giving up 10 PPG more.


KC is 30th in yards allowed, and 27th in points allowed.

moral victory?
bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:13 PM
We're 30th.
Not in total defense. In points, yes.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/2008.htm
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
We're 30th.

We suck the same...
HemiEd
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
pathetic
OnTheWarpath15
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
For the record, out offense is ranked 29th in yards per game, and 30th in PPG.
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:16 PM
pathetic

I blame HemiEd.....
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:16 PM
Not in total defense. In points, yes.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/2008.htm

nfl.com says 30th :p
OnTheWarpath15
10-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Not in total defense. In points, yes.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/2008.htm

For the last time...we're 30th in total defense allowing 391.6 yards per game.

St Louis is allowing 411.8 and Detroit is allowing 429 per game.
bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:17 PM
For the record, out offense is ranked 29th in yards per game, and 30th in PPG.
:shrug:
Fire Me Boy!
10-07-2008, 01:19 PM
I may be wrong, but I have a hard time really laying much blame at Gun's feet. He's not running his defense - he's running C2.
Fire Me Boy!
10-07-2008, 01:20 PM
:shrug:

I'd probably defer to the NFL for their official stats. :shrug:
Mr. Plow
10-07-2008, 01:20 PM
I'd probably defer to the NFL for their official stats. :shrug:

That's what I was thinking.
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:25 PM
I may be wrong, but I have a hard time really laying much blame at Gun's feet. He's not running his defense - he's running C2.

Gunther is the genious who thought moving Hali to RE would pan out.

And they're running a lot more man coverage these days, with plenty of blitzing.
bobbything
10-07-2008, 01:26 PM
I'd probably defer to the NFL for their official stats. :shrug:
Fine, Pro Football Reference appears to be wrong. I admit it.

I'll go back to believing that Herm Edwards has turned this defense around and that we're on the right track. 30th in points and yards. Awesome.
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:27 PM
Our defense is just retaining water...we'll lose it all in one big dump and suddenly be top 10!
Deberg_1990
10-07-2008, 01:30 PM
How can this be? Claythan told me Gun fixed the defense back in August??
FAX
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
To me, the difference between 30th and 32nd is kind of nitpicky. Either way, the suck is real.

The astonishing thing about all this is that Herm is A) Supposed to be good at fielding defenses and B) Supposed to be good at drafting.

I guess Chiefs fans now know where Herm's skills really lie. The term "bullshit artist" comes to mind.

FAX
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
How can this be? Claythan told me Gun fixed the defense back in August??

Run defense.

I was wrong.
FAX
10-07-2008, 01:34 PM
Maybe it's time to ask if the "youth movement" remains a valid excuse for this situation.

FAX
Reerun_KC
10-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Maybe it's time to ask if the "youth movement" remains a valid excuse for this situation.

FAX

Makes you wonder if the youth is unable to retain the lack of coaching...
Hammock Parties
10-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Maybe it's time to ask if the "youth movement" remains a valid excuse for this situation.

FAX

No, absolutely not.

I expected us to take a step back on defense.

But a giant fucking leap backwards to the WORST DEFENSE IN THE NFL?

If it was going to come to this we should have just squeezed three more years out of Vermeil.
StcChief
10-07-2008, 01:50 PM
We are rebuilding , get over it /herm
milkman
10-08-2008, 07:21 AM
Maybe it's time to ask if the "youth movement" remains a valid excuse for this situation.

FAX

I believe strogly in the youth movement, and I believe that we've drafted some very talented players that could be the core of a very good team, in time.

What I don't believe is that we have a staff that is capable of devloping this talent.

Ryan Sims is not playing at the level of his draft status, but he is playing a hell of a lot better in Tampa in his second year for Monte Kiffen and his staff than he ever did for the Chiefs.