RIP HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF

[Silock]

http://www.ur.ku.edu/mangino_video.shtml

[|Zach|]

Whats the kick off chant?

[|Zach|]

http://www.thedayjobs.com/jambi.jpg

[kstater]

Stay classy.

[The Franchise]

Whats the kick off chant?

Yeah....what the hell do you guys chant?

[kstater]

They yell "rip his fucking head off".

[Fairplay]

Sounds like he is reading off the que cards. Very monotone.

[kstater]

Digg it del.icio.us AIM Mangino to urge KU students to refrain from profane chant
By J. BRADY McCOLLOUGH
The Kansas City Star
LAWRENCE | Kansas coach Mark Mangino will make a personal plea to the KU students, encouraging them not to continue with the profane pre-kickoff chant at the Jayhawks’ home games, KU associate athletic director Jim Marchiony said.

The chant — based on a line from the 1998 Adam Sandler comedy “The Waterboy” — states, “Rip his (expletive) head off,” referring to the opposing team’s kickoff return man.

KU will send a video of Mangino speaking to the student body over e-mail on Thursday, and the video will be replayed before the game on Saturday.

This latest attempt to stop the chant began last Friday when University Daily Kansan editor Matt Erickson called a meeting that included Marchiony, Director of University Relations Todd Cohen, student body President Adam McGonigle and KU linebacker Mike Rivera.

[Demonpenz]

Juvinelle but I bet it is fun

[Que Card QB]

They yell "rip his ****ing head off".Yes. As a KU fan it pisses me off to hear it. You can hear it on t.v. and radio. Totally classless.

[Brock]

Who cares?

[Braincase]

Who cares?

Those of us with tix right next to the student section that take our kids to the games.

If they'd just change it to "rip his bloody head off", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Ozark Dirtbag]

Silock

Go deep throat Michael Phelps' meat you ass pirate.

[Ozark Dirtbag]

Silock

And your avatar still blows. I can't wait to give you a swirlie at the Arrowhead Stadium mens room.

[POND_OF_RED]

They'll never get all of the students to stop. Maybe they can agree on a compromise like yelling earmuffs 5 seconds before the chant.

[Silock]

Silock

And your avatar still blows. I can't wait to give you a swirlie at the Arrowhead Stadium mens room.

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[Silock]

They'll never get all of the students to stop. Maybe they can agree on a compromise like yelling earmuffs 5 seconds before the chant.

There was an article in the student newspaper a few days ago urging students to stop.

[POND_OF_RED]

There was an article in the student newspaper a few days ago urging students to stop.

It may be a little less loud but it's college students. Some will respect the wishes but the others will just continue to do it simply because of the fuss they're making.

[luv]

Let's think about this. When you were that age, and someone told you not to do something, what was the first thing you did?

[El Jefe]

Silock

And your avatar still blows. I can't wait to give you a swirlie at the Arrowhead Stadium mens room.

FIGHT!!!!FIGHT!!!!FIGHT!!!

[Demonpenz]

They will probably get them to stop at some point. Hell at virgina you can't even bring a homemade sign in anymore.

[CoMoChief]

You guys are ****ing pussies..........I'd add in something like rape his mother, and burry his father alive......burn his house down.....then go play Connect 4 etc.

[Thig Lyfe]

I think they should chant something like "We love puppies" instead.

[Bob Dole]

They will probably get them to stop at some point. Hell at virgina you can't even bring a homemade sign in anymore.

They removed that restriction last week.

[CoMoChief]

I think they should chant something like "We love puppies" instead.

FUCK YEAH PUPPIES FUCKING RULE!!!!!!

[Bob Dole]

Yes. As a KU fan it pisses me off to hear it. You can hear it on t.v. and radio. Totally classless.


Then it seems fitting.

[Braincase]

I think they should chant something like "We love puppies" instead.

I'd shoot for something more humorous...

"Spank his Momma!"

"Whap his peepee with a hairbrush"

"Make him poop his pants"

"Your quarterback eats boogers!"

You get the idea.

[vailpass]

Silock

And your avatar still blows. I can't wait to give you a swirlie at the Arrowhead Stadium mens room.

Did Si steal your food stamps, report your still, and steal your best girlfriend/sister/cousin?

[BigRock]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3965/waterboy2sq5.jpg

YOU CAN DO EET, MANGINO

[vailpass]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3965/waterboy2sq5.jpg

YOU CAN DO EET, MANGINO

ROFL

[Ozark Dirtbag]

Did Si steal your food stamps, report your still, and steal your best girlfriend/sister/cousin?

Vail is for yuppie faggots. I bet you make one run down the slopes and head straight to the bar to sip on your watermelon flavored drink with an umbrella. Go to a real mountain like Steamboat where the good ole boys swig whiskey on the slopes.

[Demonpenz]

I bet KU intercepts the ball for a touch down.....

That was for the other team you crazy asshole

[vailpass]

Vail is for yuppie pillowbiters. I bet you make one run down the slopes and head straight to the bar to sip on your watermelon flavored drink with an umbrella. Go to a real mountain like Steamboat where the good ole boys swig whiskey on the slopes.

Vailpass isn't a mountain the throughway to all the ski runs. Once you come out of the Ike you know you are almost there.
Steamboat rocks although there isn't as much whiskey swigging as there is blowing bowls in the pine trees in the middle of the run.

[Braincase]

Silock

And your avatar still blows. I can't wait to give you a swirlie at the Arrowhead Stadium mens room.

At least he's figured out how to get one into his profile.

[WilliamTheIrish]

This chant isn't all that bad. I scream the same thing every week only I replace the 'his" in the chant with "Prince".

[kstater]

LMAO

PTI discussing this. The one guy(LeBetard?) spent the whole time talking about the picture of Mangino at the orange bowl with the orange mascot.

[Saulbadguy]

I don't recall this being an issue before 2007.

[vailpass]

I don't recall this being an issue before 2007.

And it won't be starting next year either.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Marlboro Chief returns.

[irishjayhawk]

The pussyification of America continues. Aided by many on this board.

Sad.

[Braincase]

The pussyification of America continues. Aided by many on this board.

Sad.

Up yours. I take two daughters, age 11 & 10, and a son, age 7, to every home game. Foul language is unnecessary at events that are billed as family entertainment. I chhos to sit in the "Family Zone", and I've jumped teenagers and college students for using foul language in that part of the stadium. When I hear the cheer, I yell, "Rip his bloody head off" so my kids can't discern what the idiots in the student section are really yelling.

You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face.

[Mizzou_8541]

Silock

Go deep throat Michael Phelps' meat you ass pirate.

Midnight_Douche? Is that you?

[Hammock Parties]

Those of us with tix right next to the student section that take our kids to the games.

If they'd just change it to "rip his bloody head off", I wouldn't have a problem with it.

OH NO!

MY KIDS ARE GOING TO HEAR THE WORD "FUCK."

THEY WILL BE FOREVER CHANGED!

WHAT A TRAVESTY!

I've jumped teenagers and college students for using foul language in that part of the stadium.

What do you mean by "jumped."

You physically attacked them?

God, sticks and stones you moron.

[sportsman1]

I gotta back up Claythan on this one. If the kids have been taught right from wrong at that age it shouldn't make a ****ing difference.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

looks like Marlboro is back...

[KcMizzou]

Meh, Whatever. I don't fault the students for doing it. And I don't fault the school for asking them not to.

[Braincase]

OH NO!

MY KIDS ARE GOING TO HEAR THE WORD "****."

THEY WILL BE FOREVER CHANGED!

WHAT A TRAVESTY!



What do you mean by "jumped."

You physically attacked them?

God, sticks and stones you moron.

"Jumped", meaning I reminded them that they were sitting in the family zone, there were small children around, and they should watch their language.

I don't expect you to comprehend the roles and responsibilities of being a father, but by all means, feel free to correct me.

[Hammock Parties]

I reminded them that they were sitting in the family zone, there were small children around, and they should watch their language.


You self-righteous prick.

[KcMizzou]

You self-righteous prick.That's pretty strong. It's a reasonable request.

Personally, if I were a student, I'd probably join in.

I'd also like to think that if someone (head coach or fellow fan) asked me not to, for obvious reasons... I'd stop. I mean, you're all on the same team.. in a manner of speaking.

[SAUTO]

I have a young daughter and yeah i would (and have)ask someone to please not curse around her, she's only 3.5 but still she doesnt need to hear that

[irishjayhawk]

Let's think about this. When you were that age, and someone told you not to do something, what was the first thing you did?

Yep.

Up yours. I take two daughters, age 11 & 10, and a son, age 7, to every home game. Foul language is unnecessary at events that are billed as family entertainment. I chhos to sit in the "Family Zone", and I've jumped teenagers and college students for using foul language in that part of the stadium. When I hear the cheer, I yell, "Rip his bloody head off" so my kids can't discern what the idiots in the student section are really yelling.

You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face.

I'm sorry I see no reason for that word to be censored any more than puppies. A 7 year old can look up the word in the dictionary. Let's not pretend that kids will always be innocent and by protecting them from this chant on saturdays - that they probably can't make out unless they're right next to it or know what they're saying before - is going to keep them innocent for their whole lifetime.

Yes, it's the utmost form of pussyification of America. Censorship is nothing more than pussyification. And what are you going to do if I said that to your face? You hit me? What? Talk about setting an example....

[irishjayhawk]

Meh, Whatever. I don't fault the students for doing it. And I don't fault the school for asking them not to.

That's pretty strong. It's a reasonable request.

Personally, if I were a student, I'd probably join in.

I'd also like to think that if someone (head coach or fellow fan) asked me not to, for obvious reasons... I'd stop. I mean, you're all on the same team.. in a manner of speaking.


Yep.


Err, wait.... Mizzou sucks!

[Hammock Parties]

The problem with this country is too many assholes trying to push their values on other people. The world does not revolve around you or your family, as precious as it may be. If you don't like it, stay out of the stadium.

[Frazod]

:popcorn:

I love it when you fuckers turn on each other.

[Braincase]

You self-righteous prick.

You raise your kids to your standards, I'll raise my kids to mine. When I'm sitting in an area designated as a "family zone", I'll expect certain behavior. When people aren't conforming with that standard, I'll give 'em a chance to correct themselves. If not, I'll inform security.

[kstater]

The problem with this country is too many assholes trying to push their values on other people. The world does not revolve around you or your family, as precious as it may be. If you don't like it, stay out of the stadium.

You do realize that Braincase is sitting in the family section?

[SAUTO]

The problem with this country is too many assholes trying to push their values on other people. The world does not revolve around you or your family, as precious as it may be. If you don't like it, stay out of the stadium.

Wow, a guy sticking up for the word fuck that knows NOTHING about it

[KcMizzou]

Yep.


Err, wait.... Mizzou sucks!Now that, nobody in Lawrence would have a problem with... :p

[SAUTO]

Now that, nobody in Lawrence would have a problem with... :p

ROFL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Wow, a guy sticking up for the word fuck that knows NOTHING about it

Stop trying to ape smack on Claythan to make yourself seem cool.

[POND_OF_RED]

Up yours. I take two daughters, age 11 & 10, and a son, age 7, to every home game. Foul language is unnecessary at events that are billed as family entertainment. I chhos to sit in the "Family Zone", and I've jumped teenagers and college students for using foul language in that part of the stadium. When I hear the cheer, I yell, "Rip his bloody head off" so my kids can't discern what the idiots in the student section are really yelling.

You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face.

If you feel this way I would suggest not taking the kids to either of the Texas games this year. They'll hear a lot of cursing that day (i.e: "What the **** was that Reesing?" or "Can we please rush for ONE ****ING YARD") :Poke::D

[Hammock Parties]

You raise your kids to your standards, I'll raise my kids to mine. When I'm sitting in an area designated as a "family zone", I'll expect certain behavior. When people aren't conforming with that standard, I'll give 'em a chance to correct themselves. If not, I'll inform security.

Yep, keep pushing your bullshit values on the rest of America. Maybe someday the word "FUCK" will be completely eradicated.

[irishjayhawk]

You raise your kids to your standards, I'll raise my kids to mine. When I'm sitting in an area designated as a "family zone", I'll expect certain behavior. When people aren't conforming with that standard, I'll give 'em a chance to correct themselves. If not, I'll inform security.

Then complain to the university to seat the family section elsewhere. They won't get the chant stopped. At least not how they're currently going about it. I, for one, will be there yelling it for the sole fact of everyone's panties up in a bunch about it. It's a goddamn word. And what's more is it's a movie quote.

[Hammock Parties]

You do realize that Braincase is sitting in the family section?

Are there RULES against swearing in the family section? If you can show me a RULE about that section he's within his rights. Otherwise he's just being a self-righteous prick who thinks everyone around him should conform to his values.

[SAUTO]

Stop trying to ape smack on Claythan to make yourself seem cool.
FUCK YOU PUSSY

[kstater]

Then complain to the university to seat the family section elsewhere. They won't get the chant stopped. At least not how they're currently going about it. I, for one, will be there yelling it for the sole fact of everyone's panties up in a bunch about it. It's a goddamn word. And what's more is it's a movie quote.

Then don't complain if they choose to escort you out of the stadium.

[irishjayhawk]

Then don't complain if they choose to escort you out of the stadium.

It'll be a sad day when you get escorted out of a sporting event for chanting with 1000 other people....

Like I said, the pussyification of America continues. Aided, it seems, by you as well.

[Frazod]

I think they should be able to yell FUCK and smoke cigarettes. HA! nlm

[Hammock Parties]

Is the word HELL acceptable to you pussy, PC-loving faggots?

God forbid our Arrowhead chant be taken away.

[Braincase]

Yep.



I'm sorry I see no reason for that word to be censored any more than puppies. A 7 year old can look up the word in the dictionary. Let's not pretend that kids will always be innocent and by protecting them from this chant on saturdays - that they probably can't make out unless they're right next to it or know what they're saying before - is going to keep them innocent for their whole lifetime.

Yes, it's the utmost form of pussyification of America. Censorship is nothing more than pussyification. And what are you going to do if I said that to your face? You hit me? What? Talk about setting an example....

You confuse censorship with etiquette and good taste. Just because a word exists doesn't mean it should be used. I doubt you would scream "Tackle that n*****!" because you think it sounds funny.

Break out your dictionary and look up the words "maturity" and "civility". Set a higher standard for yourself. Be a little more creative. You don't have to use gutter language to make a point. KU is known for a recognizable, original cheer. I'd rather not be known for the other one.

[Hammock Parties]

I'M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU. CONFORM TO MY STANDARDS. OR ELSE!

.

[Demonpenz]

hah protecting kids from a word by throwing threats out. That is pretty weak

[irishjayhawk]

You confuse censorship with etiquette and good taste. Just because a word exists doesn't mean it should be used. I doubt you would scream "Tackle that n*****!" because you think it sounds funny.

Break out your dictionary and look up the words "maturity" and "civility". Set a higher standard for yourself. Be a little more creative. You don't have to use gutter language to make a point. KU is known for a recognizable, original cheer. I'd rather not be known for the other one.

I'm not going to defend the classiness of the chant. However, it seems people forget what it was to be a kid. Kids never toe or cross the line, ever, right?

Also, this isn't racist, so that comparison doesn't work.

Since when have college students ever been mature? I'm usually on your side (Why can't they be?) but that's just not the reality.

Your argument is basically the equivalent of "have fun sober" to college frat guys.

[Demonpenz]

"You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face."

"Break out your dictionary and look up the words "maturity" and "civility". Set a higher standard for yourself. Be a little more creative. You don't have to use gutter language to make a point. KU is known for a recognizable, original cheer. I'd rather not be known for the other one."

Oh the irony lol

['Hamas' Jenkins]

FUCK YOU PUSSY

Please set up a slip 'n slide in a Cambodian minefield.

[KcMizzou]

"You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face."

"Break out your dictionary and look up the words "maturity" and "civility". Set a higher standard for yourself. Be a little more creative. You don't have to use gutter language to make a point. KU is known for a recognizable, original cheer. I'd rather not be known for the other one."

Oh the irony lolDamn... 'Penz bringin' out the big guns.

[Coach]

Damn... 'Penz bringin' out the big guns.

Well, if this is your deftinition of "big guns" I suppose one would think of this way when it comes to Penz.

http://www.imagecows.com/uploads/cfac-swissminigun-a-super-tiny-gun-171007.jpg

[KcMizzou]

I can't say too much. (Hell, my favorite school has "The Antlers", and I think they're great.) But, really... it's just a silly chant that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.

I'd give it up. :shrug:

As for censorship... it's not exactly like they're burning books here. I don't understand why it's such a big deal.

[Braincase]

Are there RULES against swearing in the family section? If you can show me a RULE about that section he's within his rights. Otherwise he's just being a self-righteous prick who thinks everyone around him should conform to his values.

The KU Fan Guide bans obscene language on all signs and banners.

"Signs, banners and flags that con-
tain obscene language or speech are pro-
hibited. Such signs may be removed
and/or the possessors of such signs may
be removed from the competition site.
Kansas Athletics has the right to remove
any banner at any time for any reason.
Kansas Athletics expects and encourages
spectators who bring signs that promote
good sportsmanship and respect the
rights and dignity of others."

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/kan/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/KansasFansGuide1.pdf

Call me what you will, but that statement, combined with the terms "Family Zone" ought to create an expectation of a family, i.e. Rated "G" or "PG" environment.

If you were sitting with your grandparents, would you say it?

[Braincase]

"You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face."

"Break out your dictionary and look up the words "maturity" and "civility". Set a higher standard for yourself. Be a little more creative. You don't have to use gutter language to make a point. KU is known for a recognizable, original cheer. I'd rather not be known for the other one."

Oh the irony lol

Use language like that around a game in front of my kids, I'll ask you to stop. Keep it up, I won't have to do much because security will already be escorting you out.

[Hammock Parties]

The KU Fan Guide bans obscene language on all signs and banners.


Then you have no ground to stand on.

Settle for spanking your kids when they start using profanity in a few years. Maybe that will drive it out of them.

[KcMizzou]

Then you have no ground to stand on.

Settle for spanking your kids when they start using profanity in a few years. Maybe that will drive it out of them.Are you giving parenting advice now?

[Demonpenz]

Use language like that around a game in front of my kids, I'll ask you to stop. Keep it up, I won't have to do much because security will already be escorting you out.

Sounds like it's working

[Silock]

Did Si steal your food stamps, report your still, and steal your best girlfriend/sister/cousin?

Guilty as charged :(

[Braincase]

Then you have no ground to stand on.

Settle for spanking your kids when they start using profanity in a few years. Maybe that will drive it out of them.

I'll determine right and wrong when it comes to my kids. It's my responsibility to my kids. Don't preach to me about things you don't have a clue about. You look even more stupid than you usually do on this board when you start giving advice to parents on how to raise their kids.

[Demonpenz]

I mean no ill will on anyone on this board. The thing about it, is you got these hard nose people on here trying to protect their kids, then you hear or see what kind of houses or homes they have, I would much rather try to emulate what they are doing than try to get into an arguement.

[Hammock Parties]

I'll determine right and wrong when it comes to my kids.

This isn't about your kids. It's about other people.

Stop determining what's right and wrong for other people.

You have no right to dictate to others in public just because your fucking kids are around. Stop using them as an excuse to push your values on other people.

Would you take your kids to a fucking sports bar?

[Demonpenz]

This isn't about your kids. It's about other people.

Stop determining what's right and wrong for other people.

You have no right to dictate to others in public just because your ****ing kids are around. Stop using them as an excuse to push your values on other people.

Would you take your kids to a ****ing sports bar?


I don't think the campus football field is actually public

[Braincase]

This isn't about your kids. It's about other people.

Stop determining what's right and wrong for other people.

You have no right to dictate to others in public just because your ****ing kids are around. Stop using them as an excuse to push your values on other people.

Would you take your kids to a ****ing sports bar?

Depends on the sports bar.

The one I hang out in most of the time is a sports bar/family restaurant. The bar area is for the adult patrons, and the family dining is off away from the bar. The first time I hear 50 guys at the bar yelling in unison, "Rip his ******* head off" will be my last time in the bar. Considering I drop a couple grand in there a year, I doubt that will ever happen.

I don't sit at the bar with my kids unless we're the only ones there.

As far as what's right and wrong for other people, that's a matter of subjective truth versus objective truth. Words have power, and the more you use certain words, the less power they have. I never cuss around my kids... but when the time comes in their teenage years and they really screw up, that's when the power of those words will reveal themselves. If you curse all the time, then when the time comes to really make a point, you've already played your best card.

Like I stated, young man. You raise your kids the way you see fit, and I'll do the same. It's my responsibility to protect them and fashion their environment. If that means helping some folks discover their own personally flaws, I accept that responsibility as well. Consider yourself better off because you read this post. Someday you might understand it.

[Braincase]

I don't think the campus football field is actually public

Admission is by ticket, and ticket sales are open to the public.

[Hammock Parties]

If that means helping some folks discover their own personally flaws, I accept that responsibility as well.

God, you fucking self-righteous prick.

[Demonpenz]

Admission is by ticket, and ticket sales are open to the public.

sweet.

[Coach]

No worries, they'll be saying this somtime.

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/images/admin/wesuckagain.jpg

"Oh no! We suck again!"

[KcMizzou]

No worries, they'll be saying this somtime.

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/images/admin/wesuckagain.jpg

"Oh no! We suck again!"LMAO

Thanks for that.

This thread's way more serious than I expected it to be.

[Braincase]

God, you ****ing self-righteous prick.

If you crap your pants and start stinking, I'm going to tell you that you crapped your pants and your stinking it up. You might not like it, but the truth is the truth.

My kids are good and bright. We all have the chance to make the world a better place. The best chance for me to improve the state of the world is to bring my kids up right. If you don't like it, tough. Someday you might understand, but the reality is you have no right to tell me how to create my kids environment. Zero. Nada. You don't like what I do to protect my kids and create a safe environment for them, stay out of that environment.

[Saulbadguy]

The K-State band plays Rock N Roll part 1 and as Chiefs fans we are used to saying "We're gonna beat the hell out of you!", the K-State student body chant's "We're gonna beat the FUCK out of you!" in unison, clear as day.

[Hammock Parties]

If you crap your pants and start stinking, I'm going to tell you that you crapped your pants and your stinking it up. You might not like it, but the truth is the truth.

My kids are good and bright. We all have the chance to make the world a better place. The best chance for me to improve the state of the world is to bring my kids up right. If you don't like it, tough. Someday you might understand, but the reality is you have no right to tell me how to create my kids environment. Zero. Nada. You don't like what I do to protect my kids and create a safe environment for them, stay out of that environment.

That's right, asshole. EVERYONE should change how they act in public JUST FOR YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE OFFSPRING.

LOOK OUT! HERE COMES BRAINCASE AND HIS CHILLINS! EVERYONE BE ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR! HE MIGHT CALL SECURITY!

[KcMizzou]

If you crap your pants and start stinking, I'm going to tell you that you crapped your pants and your stinking it up. You might not like it, but the truth is the truth.

My kids are good and bright. We all have the chance to make the world a better place. The best chance for me to improve the state of the world is to bring my kids up right. If you don't like it, tough. Someday you might understand, but the reality is you have no right to tell me how to create my kids environment. Zero. Nada. You don't like what I do to protect my kids and create a safe environment for them, stay out of that environment.Now see... There's where I think you're starting to go a bit too far.

The only environment you should expect to have full control of is your home. If you choose to leave the house with your children, they might (probably will) hear or see things you don't approve of.

It's not the end of the world if they do. I know I certainly wasn't that sheltered, and my boys won't be either.

But that's my family. How you handle yours is obviously up to you.

Just don't expect the rest of the world to conform to your rules.

[KcMizzou]

(Yes, I know I've done a 180... but BC, you're getting a little extreme here...)

[irishjayhawk]

Depends on the sports bar.

The one I hang out in most of the time is a sports bar/family restaurant. The bar area is for the adult patrons, and the family dining is off away from the bar. The first time I hear 50 guys at the bar yelling in unison, "Rip his ******* head off" will be my last time in the bar. Considering I drop a couple grand in there a year, I doubt that will ever happen.

I don't sit at the bar with my kids unless we're the only ones there.

As far as what's right and wrong for other people, that's a matter of subjective truth versus objective truth. Words have power, and the more you use certain words, the less power they have. I never cuss around my kids... but when the time comes in their teenage years and they really screw up, that's when the power of those words will reveal themselves. If you curse all the time, then when the time comes to really make a point, you've already played your best card.

Like I stated, young man. You raise your kids the way you see fit, and I'll do the same. It's my responsibility to protect them and fashion their environment. If that means helping some folks discover their own personally flaws, I accept that responsibility as well. Consider yourself better off because you read this post. Someday you might understand it.

Translation:

In an effort to make it seem like I'm "parenting", I'm going to tell other people what to do in order so that I can call it parenting.

[irishjayhawk]

Now see... There's where I think you're starting to go a bit too far.

The only environment you should expect to have full control of is your home. If you choose to leave the house with your children, they might (probably will) hear or see things you don't approve of.

It's not the end of the world if they do. I know I certainly wasn't that sheltered, and my boys won't be either.

But that's my family. How you handle yours is obviously up to you.

Just don't expect the rest of the world to conform to your rules.

QFT

[Braincase]

Now see... There's where I think you're starting to go a bit too far.

The only environment you should expect to have full control of is your home. If you choose to leave the house with your children, they might (probably will) hear or see things you don't approve of.

It's not the end of the world if they do. I know I certainly wasn't that sheltered, and my boys won't be either.

But that's my family. How you handle yours is obviously up to you.

I expect some unpleasantry, without a doubt. But if I can influence a situation, I will. Most civilized people will realize that they're in a family environment and edit themselves.

I don't usually make a big deal out of it, standing on some soapbox and preaching. I get their attention, say "Hey, there's kids around. You might want to watch your language." Evertime I've done that, people have been contrite and ceased their use of foul language.

The funny thing is that people can always make their point without having to resort to cursing. From my perspective, using foul language is usually demonstrative of poor language skills and below average creativity.

[Hammock Parties]

If I can be an asshole, I will. Most spineless people will cater to my whims because of my cute little kids.

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[Braincase]

The K-State band plays Rock N Roll part 1 and as Chiefs fans we are used to saying "We're gonna beat the hell out of you!", the K-State student body chant's "We're gonna beat the **** out of you!" in unison, clear as day.

Good thing the students think they can do it. Seems the football team isn't quite as confident.

[irishjayhawk]

I expect some unpleasantry, without a doubt. But if I can influence a situation, I will. Most civilized people will realize that they're in a family environment and edit themselves.

I don't usually make a big deal out of it, standing on some soapbox and preaching. I get their attention, say "Hey, there's kids around. You might want to watch your language." Evertime I've done that, people have been contrite and ceased their use of foul language.

The funny thing is that people can always make their point without having to resort to cursing. From my perspective, using foul language is usually demonstrative of poor language skills and below average creativity.

I think you're in a world of hurt when your kids get to adolescence. Kids are rebellious.

You are talking about silencing an entire student body. That just ain't going to happen. If this was say a restaurant and the group was of 6, you have a much bigger case of "civility" and "etiquette". At a football game, with massive amounts of people (kids mainly), alcohol and the like, you don't have that kind of luxury. Therefore, if you don't like it, don't take your kids there.

It's like you complaining about what's on the television unaware or unwilling to change the channel.

[KcMizzou]

I expect some unpleasantry, without a doubt. But if I can influence a situation, I will. Most civilized people will realize that they're in a family environment and edit themselves.

I don't usually make a big deal out of it, standing on some soapbox and preaching. I get their attention, say "Hey, there's kids around. You might want to watch your language." Evertime I've done that, people have been contrite and ceased their use of foul language. As any reasonable person would. (and should)

The funny thing is that people can always make their point without having to resort to cursing. From my perspective, using foul language is usually demonstrative of poor language skills and below average creativity. That may be, but people do get caught up in the moment, and I've been known to cuss like a sailor at times.

I think at a football game, you kinda go into it knowing that it's not gonna be all puppy dog tails and ice cream cones. Taking your kids to a game, and then asking people who curse to "stay out of their environment" is a little silly.

You kinda know what you're getting into... that's all.

[Braincase]

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Actually, it's more like, "If people around me are acting like assholes, I'll let 'em know they're being assholes so they can correct themselves before they get escorted out of the stadium".

And Wendler, you're being more self-righteous than I am. I am being self-righteous, and I accept it. You're in denial.

[irishjayhawk]

As any reasonable person would. (and should)

That may be, but people do get caught up in the moment, and I've been known to cuss like a sailor at times.

I think at a football game, you kinda go into it knowing that it's not gonna be all puppy dog tails and ice cream cones. Taking your kids to a game, and then asking people who curse to "stay out of their environment" is a little silly.

You kinda know what you're getting into... that's all.

Yep.

[Hammock Parties]

And Wendler, you're being more self-righteous than I am.

How so?

[KcMizzou]

How so?You're that guy that'd yell "fuck" twenty more times just to spite the guy with the kids.

Or at least you play that guy on the intarwebs.

[Hammock Parties]

You're that guy that'd yell "fuck" twenty more times just to spite the guy with the kids.

Or at least you play that guy on the intarwebs.

I don't even say fuck in public. I just don't feel comfortable doing it.

But I'm certainly not going to ask someone else to stop. That's not my right whatsoever. I'm also not going to judge them over it.

I will, however, judge some prick who thinks he can dictate to others just because he popped out a couple kids. As if that makes him special.

[Demonpenz]

I hate it when people act better than me because they have kids. I don't plan on ever having kids, that doesn't doesn't give you the right to do anything you want. Just like those assholes in the mall. I was first in line for santa damnit!

[KcMizzou]

I hate it when people act better than me because they have kids. I don't plan on ever having kids, that doesn't doesn't give you the right to do anything you want. Just like those assholes in the mall. I was first in line for santa damnit!Hey... if you wanna sit on a fat bearded man's lap....

You got 20 bucks?

[Demonpenz]

Hey... if you wanna sit on a fat bearded man's lap....

You got 20 bucks?

that's a bargan

[sportsman1]

Lol something other than the hawks I can agree with Irish on.

[Simply Red]

Who cares?

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[Braincase]

How so?

You're trying to put yourself on a pedestal thinking you represent everybody in the world other than me, believing you represent an objective truth.

[Hammock Parties]

You're trying to put yourself on a pedestal thinking you represent everybody in the world other than me, believing you represent an objective truth.

Um, no. Just the people who believe in freedom of speech.

[Braincase]

I don't even say **** in public. I just don't feel comfortable doing it.

But I'm certainly not going to ask someone else to stop. That's not my right whatsoever. I'm also not going to judge them over it.

I will, however, judge some prick who thinks he can dictate to others just because he popped out a couple kids. As if that makes him special.

I'm sitting in the FAMILY zone. If someone wants to go sit in the student section and have a conversation and drop an F-bomb, that's his business. 6,000 students yelling it in unison is a different thing.

You don't get it at all. I'm the one who has been dictated to - I've been told that if I want to bring my kids to the game and have a reasonable chance to deflect foul behavior and language, I have to SIT HERE. So I buy tickets and sit there with my kids with a reasonable expectation that I can watch a football game without having to subject my kids to certain behavior.

Damn, are you that dense? I'm not dragging my kids over to the student section to sit in puke and watch half-naked coeds have a three way with some guy that gets all the hot chicks because he has a motorcycle. I'M SITTING IN THE FAMILY ZONE. What part of that do you not understand?

[Braincase]

Um, no. Just the people who believe in freedom of speech.

Feel free to go to a high school game with a large number of African heritage parents and yell "Tackle that n*****!", and use your "Freedom of Speech" argument. I'm sure they'll be quite understanding.

[irishjayhawk]

I'm sitting in the FAMILY zone. If someone wants to go sit in the student section and have a conversation and drop an F-bomb, that's his business. 6,000 students yelling it in unison is a different thing.

You hit it on the head. Your children > 6000 students.

6000 must conform to your rule or they should leave. :rolleyes:

You don't get it at all. I'm the one who has been dictated to - I've been told that if I want to bring my kids to the game and have a reasonable chance to deflect foul behavior and language, I have to SIT HERE. So I buy tickets and sit there with my kids with a reasonable expectation that I can watch a football game without having to subject my kids to certain behavior.

So, really, you have a problem with where they put the family zone? Like I said, talk to KU about it. I can tell you they won't get it stopped - at least not soon - so you'll have to stop coming out if it's that big a deal to you.


Damn, are you that dense? I'm not dragging my kids over to the student section to sit in puke and watch half-naked coeds have a three way with some guy that gets all the hot chicks because he has a motorcycle. I'M SITTING IN THE FAMILY ZONE. What part of that do you not understand?

What part of COLLEGE FOOTBALL do you not understand?

[Hammock Parties]

I'M SITTING IN THE FAMILY ZONE. What part of that do you not understand?

I understand you haven't presented any rules that govern what's acceptable in the family zone yet.

A "family zone" at a football game is a joke, anyway. You wasted your money.

If you don't like those horrible curse words, keep the kiddies at home. You have no right to dictate to others how to act in public. NONE.

[irishjayhawk]

Feel free to go to a high school game with a large number of African heritage parents and yell "Tackle that n*****!", and use your "Freedom of Speech" argument. I'm sure they'll be quite understanding.

Always jump to racism as a way to equivocate all speech exceptions.

There should be a law for that. Murphy and Poe have laws. Who else?

[Braincase]

Translation:

In an effort to make it seem like I'm "parenting", I'm going to tell other people what to do in order so that I can call it parenting.

When you sit at home with members of your family, watching a KU away game, mom & dad, grampa & gramma hanging out, are you going to yell that to get their blood pumping and get in the spirit of the game?

[KcMizzou]

Well... there's still a chance someone will Godwin the thread.

[Braincase]

You hit it on the head. Your children > 6000 students.

6000 must conform to your rule or they should leave. :rolleyes:



So, really, you have a problem with where they put the family zone? Like I said, talk to KU about it. I can tell you they won't get it stopped - at least not soon - so you'll have to stop coming out if it's that big a deal to you.



What part of COLLEGE FOOTBALL do you not understand?

If it were just me, there wouldn't be an argument. The reality of it is that the majority want it to stop. 40000>6000. Those 40000 spend a lot more money on their tickets and donate more money to the program than those 6000. Somethings going to give, and right now it looks like I'm in the majority.

[irishjayhawk]

When you sit at home with members of your family, watching a KU away game, mom & dad, grampa & gramma hanging out, are you going to yell that to get their blood pumping and get in the spirit of the game?

No problem yelling that in the spirit of the game. I think the only people who would object would be my aunt and uncle, because they, like you, think their kids are going to be innocent forever.

Well... there's still a chance someone will Godwin the thread.

I knew there was one I was missing. How could I forget Godwin's Law.

Suggestions on the law I proposed?

If it were just me, there wouldn't be an argument. The reality of it is that the majority want it to stop. 40000>6000. Those 40000 spend a lot more money on their tickets and donate more money to the program than those 6000. Somethings going to give, and right now it looks like I'm in the majority.

Are you going to back this up or are you blabbing statistics to make it appear you are on the "right" side?

You know what the difference is between ticket holders and students? Ticket holders forgot what it was to be students.

[Braincase]

Always jump to racism as a way to equivocate all speech exceptions.

There should be a law for that. Murphy and Poe have laws. Who else?

We all define obscenity differently. We all have lines that we think shouldn't be crossed, whether it's a line of good taste, a line of morality, a line of acceptable behavior.

What will end up happening is that when they draw up plans for next years tickets, they'll reduce the number of tickets available to students, and that will continue until the chant stops. The real power lies with those that have the money, the alumni that want to bring their kids to their alma mater to enjoy a football game. Those seats are worth a lot of money, and the alumni will pay more for those seats than the students can.

[Hammock Parties]

The real power lies with those that have the money.

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[irishjayhawk]

We all define obscenity differently. We all have lines that we think shouldn't be crossed, whether it's a line of good taste, a line of morality, a line of acceptable behavior.

What will end up happening is that when they draw up plans for next years tickets, they'll reduce the number of tickets available to students, and that will continue until the chant stops. The real power lies with those that have the money, the alumni that want to bring their kids to their alma mater to enjoy a football game. Those seats are worth a lot of money, and the alumni will pay more for those seats than the students can.

I doubt it. The tickets are available to anyone who buys a student sports pass. They don't guarantee a seat, however. If they decrease the number, you'll see an increase in price. I guess that's fair if you try to legislate your morality on others.

[Braincase]

I doubt it. The tickets are available to anyone who buys a student sports pass. They don't guarantee a seat, however. If they decrease the number, you'll see an increase in price. I guess that's fair if you try to legislate your morality on others.

I've seen it work. Wichita State had a similar issue when I went to school there. We'd yell all kinds of things, from the "We're gonna beat the hell out of you" to "Your momma's a dyke!". Funny how that all changed after Lew became the AD.

I'm not saying that the students shouldn't have fun at the game. I just think that particular chant is in bad taste and that it ought to be replaced. If you were in my situation, I'm sure you'd feel the same way. In these situations, the alumni usually win.

[irishjayhawk]

I've seen it work. Wichita State had a similar issue when I went to school there. We'd yell all kinds of things, from the "We're gonna beat the hell out of you" to "Your momma's a dyke!". Funny how that all changed after Lew became the AD.

I'm not saying that the students shouldn't have fun at the game. I just think that particular chant is in bad taste and that it ought to be replaced. If you were in my situation, I'm sure you'd feel the same way. In these situations, the alumni usually win.

Perhaps. Again, I won't defend the classiness of the chant nor the maturity of it.

However, I will argue against what seems to be your "right" not to be offended by things said at an event you freely chose to go to. Don't expect everyone to behave how you parent your household.

[Hammock Parties]

What do you folks honestly expect in the bible belt? This wouldn't happen at one of them queer'd up universities out west.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Braincase, if your kids have ever ridden a public school bus, they've heard far worse than anything you'll hear at a college football game.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What do you folks honestly expect in the bible belt? This wouldn't happen at one of them queer'd up universities out west.

Bunch of slack jawed faggots around here.

[Hammock Parties]

Braincase, if your kids have ever ridden a public school bus, they've heard far worse than anything you'll hear at a college football game.

I first saw a naked woman on a public school bus.

[Braincase]

Braincase, if your kids have ever ridden a public school bus, they've heard far worse than anything you'll hear at a college football game.

Not an issue. Kids are within walking distance to elementary and junior high. By the time they hit high school, they'll be old enough for learner's permits, and my wife can always drop them off on the way to KU.

Guys, my kids have heard the words. They know what cuss words are, and they talk about the kids at schools that use bad language. Like I said, my kids are smart. We talk about it, and they know that my wife and I don't use that kind of language (around them), and that it's not acceptable.

Foul language is foul language for a reason. It's there, but just because they exist it doesn't mean you MUST use them. You talk about "freedom of speech", but that's a crock of it - there is nothing than can be expressed with cursing that can't be expressed without cursing. If you don't believe that, that's an issue with your own intellectual limitations and lack of linguistic creativity.

[Hammock Parties]

they talk about the kids at schools that use bad language..

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[irishjayhawk]

Not an issue. Kids are within walking distance to elementary and junior high. By the time they hit high school, they'll be old enough for learner's permits, and my wife can always drop them off on the way to KU.

Guys, my kids have heard the words. They know what cuss words are, and they talk about the kids at schools that use bad language. Like I said, my kids are smart. We talk about it, and they know that my wife and I don't use that kind of language (around them), and that it's not acceptable.

Foul language is foul language for a reason. It's there, but just because they exist it doesn't mean you MUST use them. You talk about "freedom of speech", but that's a crock of it - there is nothing than can be expressed with cursing that can't be expressed without cursing. If you don't believe that, that's an issue with your own intellectual limitations and lack of linguistic creativity.

Likewise, it's completely arbitrary that they are "foul" in the first place. COMPLETELY ARBITRARY.

[Hammock Parties]

Braincase's brainwashed kids remind of a dipshit I knew as a youth. His name was Donovan Reed. He was a real grade-A dipshit. We went to the same high school together. Occasionally, at school, I'd drop an F-bomb or a random cuss. I don't even remember at this point.

But I'm sure Donovan does. That's because he actually went to his daddy and told on me. Yep, he went and tattled on poor little 15-year old Claythan. I had been cussing at school, and someone in our congregation was going to know, dammit!

So he told his daddy, who was a "ministerial servant" at our Jemimah's Witnesses church. His daddy had the gall to come up to me at the next meeting and ask me about my horrible transgressions at school.

Being a spineless pussy raised in the grand old Jemimah's Witness tradition, I of course lied and told him no, I had not been swearing. Looking back, if I had possessed an ounce of backbone or self-respect, I would have told Donovan's dad that yes, I swore like a fucking sailor at school, and if he didn't like it, he could kiss my devil-worshipping ass. And also, that it was none of his fucking business since he was a glorified magazine-stand clerk/audio slave.

Anyway, good times.

[KcMizzou]

Braincase's brainwashed kids remind of a dipshit I knew as a youth. His name was Donovan Reed. He was a real grade-A dipshit. We went to the same high school together. Occasionally, at school, I'd drop an F-bomb or a random cuss. I don't even remember at this point.

But I'm sure Donovan does. That's because he actually went to his daddy and told on me. Yep, he went and tattled on poor little 15-year old Claythan. I had been cussing at school, and someone in our congregation was going to know, dammit!

So he told his daddy, who was a "ministerial servant" at our Jemimah's Witnesses church. His daddy had the gall to come up to me at the next meeting and ask me about my horrible transgressions at school.

Being a spineless pussy raised in the grand old Jemimah's Witness tradition, I of course lied and told him no, I had not been swearing. Looking back, if I had possessed an ounce of backbone or self-respect, I would have told Donovan's dad that yes, I swore like a ****ing sailor at school, and if he didn't like it, he could kiss my devil-worshipping ass. And also, that it was none of his ****ing business since he was a glorified magazine-stand clerk/audio slave.

Anyway, good times.LMAO

Let it all out, Clay. Consider it therapy.

[Braincase]

Likewise, it's completely arbitrary that they are "foul" in the first place. COMPLETELY ARBITRARY.

Social mores define the obscene. In one African community, the words you and I might look at as being obscene are the term even their doctors use to discuss medical maladies - the proper medical terms (that are accepted as part of any human sexuality class in the states) are the terms that define their foul language.

But if some 4 year old nephew came up to you and asked you where babies came from, I doubt you'd say "Well, your dad stuck his **** in your mommy's ****, and he ****ed her pretty good. He shot his *** and the little sperms fertilized the egg."

There are some words we can explain to kids pretty easily. "Crap" and it's variants are pretty easy, because we all become aware of feces at a pretty young age, like around 0. "Damn", "hell" and "ass" aren't too bad. Once we start breaking into any organ or term involved in the reproductive process, things can get complicated. I don't need to explain that stuff to a seven year-old, so I'd rather wait until a more appropriate time.

[Demonpenz]

I am going to the family section and going to scream out cuss words. When I am getting escorted out I am going to yell FREEDOM'S NOT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE

[DeezNutz]

Braincase's brainwashed kids remind of a dipshit I knew as a youth. His name was Donovan Reed. He was a real grade-A dipshit. We went to the same high school together. Occasionally, at school, I'd drop an F-bomb or a random cuss. I don't even remember at this point.

But I'm sure Donovan does. That's because he actually went to his daddy and told on me. Yep, he went and tattled on poor little 15-year old Claythan. I had been cussing at school, and someone in our congregation was going to know, dammit!

So he told his daddy, who was a "ministerial servant" at our Jemimah's Witnesses church. His daddy had the gall to come up to me at the next meeting and ask me about my horrible transgressions at school.

Being a spineless pussy raised in the grand old Jemimah's Witness tradition, I of course lied and told him no, I had not been swearing. Looking back, if I had possessed an ounce of backbone or self-respect, I would have told Donovan's dad that yes, I swore like a ****ing sailor at school, and if he didn't like it, he could kiss my devil-worshipping ass. And also, that it was none of his ****ing business since he was a glorified magazine-stand clerk/audio slave.

Anyway, good times.

You should focus on having your columns read like the above post. Seriously. It has a distinctive voice and is fun. You could do the same thing in your other work, sans the f-bombs.

[Hammock Parties]

I had no idea Braincase had such a stick up his ass.

[DeezNutz]

I am going to the family section and going to scream out cuss words. When I am getting escorted out I am going to yell FREEDOM'S NOT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fucking 'Penz Wallace.

[KcMizzou]

I am going to the family section and going to scream out cuss words. When I am getting escorted out I am going to yell FREEDOM'S NOT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDON'T TAZE ME, BRO!!!!!

[Demonpenz]

Standing up for what I believe in. A true maverick

[KcMizzou]

Standing up for what I believe in. A true maverickI'll drink to that.

[DeezNutz]

Standing up for what I believe in. A true maverick

Nut hooks = FREEEEEEEEDOOOmmmmmmmmmm.....

It's a fundamental difference.

[Braincase]

I had no idea Braincase had such a stick up his ass.

When you have kids of your own, you'll understand. Until then, you just look pretty ignorant.

[Braincase]

Standing up for what I believe in. A true maverick

And I'm standing up for what I believe in. Responsible paternity.

[Demonpenz]

Local Man gets kicked out of Family section for cheering his favorite fight song. The chant..which includes a four letter word has been outlawed. Demonpenz Mcdemon was escorted out when he begain his chant soon after the first kick off. Security had a tough time getting the handcuffs around his jean shorts that had various chains around it. After the altercation was over the man's Anthrax shirt was ripped and a loud. FREEDOM'S NOT FREE! could be heard in the distance. No word yet if the man recieved his "poison...look what the cat dragged in" Tape that police took from him

[Lzen]

This chant isn't all that bad. I scream the same thing every week only I replace the 'his" in the chant with "Prince".

ROFL

[Lzen]

Up yours. I take two daughters, age 11 & 10, and a son, age 7, to every home game. Foul language is unnecessary at events that are billed as family entertainment. I chhos to sit in the "Family Zone", and I've jumped teenagers and college students for using foul language in that part of the stadium. When I hear the cheer, I yell, "Rip his bloody head off" so my kids can't discern what the idiots in the student section are really yelling.

You want to call me a pussy for protecting my kids innocence, I dare you to do it to my face.

I took my boys to a game a couple weeks ago. We were in the family zone. We couldn't make out what they were saying from where we were sitting. Of course, I already knew what they chant but I did not share that with the youngsters.

[Demonpenz]

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[KcMizzou]

Local Man gets kicked out of Family section for cheering his favorite fight song. The chant..which includes a four letter word has been outlawed. Demonpenz Mcdemon was escorted out when he begain his chant soon after the first kick off. Security had a tough time getting the handcuffs around his jean shorts that had various chains around it. After the altercation was over the man's Anthrax shirt was ripped and a loud. FREEDOM'S NOT FREE! could be heard in the distance. No word yet if the man recieved his "poison...look what the cat dragged in" Tape that police took from himHe fuckin' better have.

[KcMizzou]

.Freedom aint free. :deevee:

[Lzen]

You do realize that Braincase is sitting in the family section?

Who gives a rat's ass what Goatse thinks about this? I doubt he will ever attend a KU football game.

[irishjayhawk]

I will say I'd much rather we do away with the Booing of the team coming out and the "bullshit" chant.

The first one is just stupid, unless, of course, it's your rival. The second is stupid because 99% of the time it's on a call that was OBVIOUS and we just don't like the refs calling a BLATANT flag on us.

[KcMizzou]

I will say I'd much rather we do away with the Booing of the team coming out and the "bullshit" chant.

The first one is just stupid, unless, of course, it's your rival. The second is stupid because 99% of the time it's on a call that was OBVIOUS and we just don't like the refs calling a BLATANT flag on us.Yeah, well... we all do that.

But, you're right.

[Lzen]

Yep, keep pushing your bullshit values on the rest of America. Maybe someday the word "****" will be completely eradicated.

This is a retarded argument. Values being pushed onto society is how we ended up with laws. You know, like murder, burglary, assault, etc. are all crimes. :shake: You can't just go do whatever you want. It doesn't work that way. Maybe some day when you grow up, you will get that.

[Hammock Parties]

This is a retarded argument. Values being pushed onto society is how we ended up with laws. You know, like murder, burglary, assault, etc. are all crimes. :shake: You can't just go do whatever you want. It doesn't work that way. Maybe some day when you grow up, you will get that.

Great blanket statement.

It's a good thing we pushed our values onto society! After all, it cut down on murder! If we let up one iota, people could start murdering excessively again! So keep harping on the F word! It's the only way to maintain a civilized society.

THE F WORD - MORE DANGEROUS THAN YOU REALIZE!

[irishjayhawk]

This is a retarded argument. Values being pushed onto society is how we ended up with laws. You know, like murder, burglary, assault, etc. are all crimes. :shake: You can't just go do whatever you want. It doesn't work that way. Maybe some day when you grow up, you will get that.

Eh, not exactly true. Most of the values you speak of are more or less biological laws than man-made laws, especially murder.

Your semi-point sort of stands, though.

[luv]

Can't we all just get along?

[okcchief]

I can understand where you are coming from. My daughter is almost two and I really can't have her around when my friends are over because they cuss like sailors and she is like a tape recorder. However, I don't ask them to change their behavior. I have come to a point where I only invite them over when she is out with mom or staying at Grandma's. I also know eventually she will hear it, pick a word up, and I will have to explain right from wrong. There is no way I can protect her from never hearing a bad word. She will hear them from me soon enough :D

I obviously don't have the same stance on cursing you do. So I understand you have your right to feel this way. Language doesn't bother me generally though and I'm not really sure why you would think "ripping a bloody head off" or "ripping a fuckin head off" are different? They both present a violent image that isn't necessarily for a childs ears. I also don't understand how threatening physical violence on someone who says fuck in front of your kid is a good example either. To be honest, I doubt they even understand what they are saying unless you tell them. I hear chants on games all the time that I can't make out.


I definately wouldn't ask someone at a game to watch their language because that happens at any sporting event. Most people have a few drinks, let loose and the last thing they are thinking about is watching their mouth. You should just have the conversation with your kids and tell them to ignore it. If you say they talk about kids using bad language then you have obviously influenced them and they can ignore it. If it's that big of an issue you shouldn't bring your kids to a game. Whether you like it or not it will never stop. If you as a parent decide that an enviroment isn't appropriate for your kids then keep them out of it. You can't expect the World to change for you.

[KcMizzou]

Can't we all just get along?

Watch this... it's funny.

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[Hammock Parties]

You can't expect the World to change for you.

But you can do your damnedest to MAKE them change.

[luv]

Watch this... it's funny.

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Where da gold at? I want da gold.

I love the newscasters reactions.

[Braincase]

But you can do your damnedest to MAKE them change.
Just accept that you don't understand a parental perspective. All you know is what you've experienced as YOU. You aren't a parent. Those of us that are parents don't expect you to understand what we do and why we do it. But a little courtesy isn't too much to ask.

[KcMizzou]

Where da gold at? I want da gold.

I love the newscasters reactions.Could be a crack head.. got 'hold to da wrong stuff...

[luv]

Could be a crack head.. got 'hold to da wrong stuff...

And what did that dude have? A leprachan flute?

[KcMizzou]

And what did that dude have? A leprachan flute?From thousands of years ago...

[okcchief]

Watch this... it's funny.

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HAHA

Nice find.

[luv]

From thousands of years ago...

What on earth were you searching for on youtube to come up with that one? Or do I want to know? :spock:

:p

[KcMizzou]

HAHA

Nice find.It's old...

But it never gets old.

[Lzen]

Great blanket statement.

It's a good thing we pushed our values onto society! After all, it cut down on murder! If we let up one iota, people could start murdering excessively again! So keep harping on the F word! It's the only way to maintain a civilized society.

THE F WORD - MORE DANGEROUS THAN YOU REALIZE!

Lol. I don't think you will ever get it. I was not trying to compare cussing with murder by any means. Hell, I made the same argument to my mom when I was young. I think it is silly that certain words are deemed inappropriate by society. But when you have young kids, you don't want them to hear that stuff and then go repeat it. Honestly, I am guilty of cussing like a sailor at times (usually when I'm pissed) and in front of my kids, too. So, I have no room to talk there. But I understand what BC is saying. It is just something that society deems in poor taste and that's why most people respect others in public.

[KcMizzou]

What on earth were you searching for on youtube to come up with that one? Or do I want to know? :spock:

:pIt's been posted. It's just one of my all-time favorites.

[Hammock Parties]

Just accept that you don't understand a parental perspective. All you know is what you've experienced as YOU. You aren't a parent. Those of us that are parents don't expect you to understand what we do and why we do it. But a little courtesy isn't too much to ask.

If you really cared about your kids you'd take them out of the situation instead of asking others to change. It's the simplest and least complicated route to accomplishing your objective - protecting your children.

Instead, you want to have your cake and eat it too.

[irishjayhawk]

Just accept that you don't understand a parental perspective. All you know is what you've experienced as YOU. You aren't a parent. Those of us that are parents don't expect you to understand what we do and why we do it. But a little courtesy isn't too much to ask.

Likewise, that you've forgotten the non-parent mentality.

[Hammock Parties]

It is just something that society deems in poor taste.

WRONG.

It something that uptight, conservative, christian, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous BLOWHARDS deem in poor taste.

If you go to a football game, lots of people are going to be dropping cuss words. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

[luv]

If you really cared about your kids you'd take them out of the situation instead of asking others to change. It's the simplest and least complicated route to accomplishing your objective - protecting your children.

Instead, you want to have your cake and eat it too.

Claythan kind of has a point here. While I think it's rude for someone to disregard a request to watch their profanity around children, you have to realize that they paid for their ticket. They have as much of a right to be offended at the thought of you asking than you do by them not submitting.

[luv]

WRONG.

It something that uptight, conservative, christian, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous BLOWHARDS deem in poor taste.

If you go to a football game, lots of people are going to be dropping cuss words. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Which Christian pissed in your Cheerios this morning?

[Lzen]

Watch this... it's funny.

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What

the

heck???

ROFL

[Lzen]

WRONG.

It something that uptight, conservative, christian, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous BLOWHARDS deem in poor taste.

If you go to a football game, lots of people are going to be dropping cuss words. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I really feel sorry for you. Those Jehovah's Witnesses really screwed you up. :shake:

[BWillie]

To be honest, I could care less if it offends little kids, moms, or old people. I think it's just not a classy thing to do. Very tacky IMO, and I hope it stops. It just makes KU look bad. Alot of schools have chants like this, but it's not really an excuse. At least we aren't like Missouri and rush the floor when we beat unranked teams in basketball.

[KcMizzou]

To be honest, I could care less if it offends little kids, moms, or old people. I think it's just not a classy thing to do. Very tacky IMO, and I hope it stops. It just makes KU look bad. Alot of schools have chants like this, but it's not really an excuse. At least we aren't like Missouri and rush the floor when we beat unranked teams in basketball.LMAO

[Braincase]

I really feel sorry for you. Those Jehovah's Witnesses really screwed you up. :shake:

It's pretty much a moot point with him anyway. I doubt he'll ever get to a KU football game. He just likes to argue for the sake of arguing, part of his Quixotic crusade. I'm just the windmill du jour.

[Braincase]

Looks like good taste won out. I was there, and heard feeble attempts at the cheer on a few kickoffs, but so few participated it was impossible to make out what they were saying in the family section. Thanks to those students that decided to let the thing die.

[Lzen]

Honestly, I could not tell what they were chanting. I found myself wondering if they were still doing that chant or something new. You really can't make it out on TV. Unless you already know what they say, it is unclear.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Looks like good taste won out. I was there, and heard feeble attempts at the cheer on a few kickoffs, but so few participated it was impossible to make out what they were saying in the family section. Thanks to those students that decided to let the thing die.

What a fucking bunch of mother fucking pussies. Fuck them.

[KC_Connection]

I was there. I still did it. But yeah, a lot of people stopped because Mangino asked them to.

[L.A. Chieffan]

I was there. I still did it. But yeah, a lot of people stopped because Mangino asked them to.

You fucking classless piece of fucking shit. Fuck fuckers that fucking cuss.

[RNR]

WRONG.

It something that uptight, conservative, christian, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous BLOWHARDS deem in poor taste.

If you go to a football game, lots of people are going to be dropping cuss words. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

You define the term worthless dump :rolleyes:

[Silock]

Looks like good taste won out. I was there, and heard feeble attempts at the cheer on a few kickoffs, but so few participated it was impossible to make out what they were saying in the family section. Thanks to those students that decided to let the thing die.

Uh, what?

No way. It petered out a bit after most of the student section left in the 4th quarter, but I could hear it loud and clear. I was sitting in section 10, across the way from the student section and it was VERY clear.

[KC_Connection]

You ****ing classless piece of ****ing shit. **** ****ers that ****ing cuss.

Meh.

[Braincase]

Uh, what?

No way. It petered out a bit after most of the student section left in the 4th quarter, but I could hear it loud and clear. I was sitting in section 10, across the way from the student section and it was VERY clear.

I was in Section 17, and when the scoring kicked-in in the second half, it was prett indiscernable.

The other folks I sat around appreciated the fact that it was unclear and pretty muffled.

[Silock]

Maybe it's something to do with the direction they were shouting toward, but it was just as loud as always.

[SAUTO]

Watch this... it's funny.

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was that a young Edge James at the 25 second mark?

[irishjayhawk]

Maybe it's something to do with the direction they were shouting toward, but it was just as loud as always.

From inside the student section, it sounded louder than usual.

[irishjayhawk]

Kansas students ignore coach's plea, use profane chant

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Thousands of Kansas students ignored coach Mark Mangino's plea and went ahead with a profane chant when No. 16 Kansas kicked off against Colorado on Saturday.

As the chant resonated across Memorial Stadium, alumni and other fans booed.

The chant was first heard at Kansas in 2003 and has brought complaints from university officials and fans who say it's an embarrassment. Taking their cue from an Adam Sandler movie, the students yell, "Rip his head off" -- with an expletive tossed in -- every time their team kicks off.

Mangino, who is popular and was the national coach of the year last season, sent a video via e-mail to students Thursday afternoon. It was shown on the video board at Memorial Stadium shortly before kickoff.

"Do us a favor," Mangino said in the video. "Let's cut out that kickoff chant."

The alumni cheered the video.

But when Kansas kicked off for the first time midway through the second quarter, students yelled the chant, anyway, and the alumni section began booing loudly.

"It's a difficult situation," linebacker Mike Rivera said. "We love our fans. That's a great thing that they're doing something together, but there's some negative things with the younger kids there and the families and hearing it on TV. It's not necessarily representing our university that well."

Senior linebacker Joe Mortensen said the chant serves as motivation.

"When I try to hit people," Mortensen said, "that's what I try to do."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3638156

[Hammock Parties]

Rock on!

Senior linebacker Joe Mortensen said the chant serves as motivation.

"When I try to hit people," Mortensen said, "that's what I try to do."

Hahahahaha.

[Gary]

Hey, found an image from another Sandler movie...

[KC_Connection]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of1Q3O7Fr2E&feature=related

"The price is wrong, bitch."