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Goapics1
10-16-2008, 09:34 AM
Thursday, October 16, 2008

Polamalu says NFL's fines for hits more about money, not player safety

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ESPN.com news services

Troy Polamalu is usally soft-spoken off the field, hard-hitting on it. The recent rash of fines leveled at his Pittsburgh Steelers teammates have caused him to take a shot at the NFL, however.


The Steelers safety suggested Wednesday that the NFL is leveling fines for hits more for its own interest than that of the players.


"I think regarding the evolution of football, it's becoming more and more flag football, two-hand touch," Polamalu said. "We've really lost the essence of what real American football is about. I think it's probably all about money. They're not really concerned about safety."


The Steelers have asked the NFL to clarify why Hines Ward, one of the league's best-blocking wide receivers, was fined $15,000 the past two games for unnecessary roughness despite not being penalized.

Ward was fined $10,000 following the Steelers' 26-21 win at Jacksonville on Oct. 5, a week after drawing a $5,000 fine for a play in which he stepped over Baltimore cornerback Corey Ivy on Sept. 29. Ward did not draw a penalty on either play.

Also following the Jacksonville game, Steelers linebacker James Harrison was fined $20,000 for criticizing referee Brian Winter for calling a roughing-the-passer penalty against him. Two other Steelers also drew fines for that game, safety Ryan Clark $7,500 for unnecessary roughness -- a late hit -- and wide receiver Nate Washington $7,500 for taunting. Among the four players, the one-game fines totaled $45,000.

"It's starting to cost too much money to come to work for these guys," coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday.

Tomlin said he planned to call the NFL office about the Ward fines, and team chairman Dan Rooney wrote a letter questioning why Ward was fined.

"We want to be a team and he [Ward] wants to be a player who plays the game the way it's supposed to be played, the way our league wants it to be played," Tomlin said. "We respect that. But we need a little clarity in that situation."

Polamalu said that football's essence is being taken away with the NFL's heavy-handed penalties, saying football "just loses so much of its essence when it becomes like a pansy game."

Polamalu said that past NFL greats wouldn't be able to play the way that made them great in today's game.

"When you see guys like Dick Butkus, the Ronnie Lotts, the Jack Tatums, these guys really went after people," Polamalu told reporters. "Now, they couldn't survive in this type of game. They wouldn't have enough money. They'd be paying fines all the time and they'd be suspended for a year after they do it two games in a row. It's kind of ridiculous."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3646392

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:36 AM
It's also hypocritical because they'll fine a guy then put the play on a DVD entitled "the NFL's biggest hits"

okcchief
10-16-2008, 09:40 AM
It's also hypocritical because they'll fine a guy then put the play on a DVD entitled "the NFL's biggest hits"

Very true

Deberg_1990
10-16-2008, 09:41 AM
It's also hypocritical because they'll fine a guy then put the play on a DVD entitled "the NFL's biggest hits"

Exactly.

Its really about trying to keep star players healthy which equates to more money in the long run.

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:44 AM
I understand fining some plays but they are really out of hand with alot of it.

If a guy comes across the middle and gets hit he gets hit. You should only ever get fined if you lead with your head into another guys head, helmet to helmet is really the only thing I think should be fined.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Polamalu is a thug, but he has a point to a degree.

I don't believe a penalty flag should be required to be fined, as there are times when a ref doesn't see the infraction. Without seeing the Ward infractions, can't say if he deserved it or not.

Goapics1
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
Polamalu is a thug,

WTF?

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
How exactly is Polamalu a thug?

Deberg_1990
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
That Boldin hit should not have been a fine. There was no way that guy could have done anything different.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
I understand fining some plays but they are really out of hand with alot of it.

If a guy comes across the middle and gets hit he gets hit. You should only ever get fined if you lead with your head into another guys head, helmet to helmet is really the only thing I think should be fined.

Definitely helmet to helmet, but also intentional things, such as purposefully making contact with a downed player, such as the cheap shots we've all seen where a guy intentionally steps on or kicks a player on the ground, stuff like that.

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:47 AM
That Boldin hit should not have been a fine. There was no way that guy could have done anything different.

Ok I'm going to disagree with that, going after a guys head is a fine in my opinion. Not to mention it was with 8 seconds left in a blowout game.

beach tribe
10-16-2008, 09:48 AM
The roughing the passer calls are just getting rediculous. Pollard, Farve for instance.

They're even out of hand on the damn video games for crying out loud.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 09:48 AM
How exactly is Polamalu a thug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0

and yes, I still despise him for it.

beach tribe
10-16-2008, 09:49 AM
I understand fining some plays but they are really out of hand with alot of it.

If a guy comes across the middle and gets hit he gets hit. You should only ever get fined if you lead with your head into another guys head, helmet to helmet is really the only thing I think should be fined.

Yup.

ferrarispider95
10-16-2008, 09:49 AM
Didnt the steelers trade picks with us to get Polamalu and we ended up picking LJ?

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:49 AM
LOL, I don't really think that makes him a thug....I don't remember how well Lockett was playing but it either had a purpose or he didn't use his head at the time.

Mecca
10-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Didnt the steelers trade picks with us to get Polamalu and we ended up picking LJ?

Yea, that was another brilliant move by our franchise.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 09:51 AM
That Boldin hit should not have been a fine. There was no way that guy could have done anything different.

bullshit. he intentionally led with his helmet. You can even see he spins around a little to make sure he doesn't take it in the face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWDA67sdfPg

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 09:52 AM
LOL, I don't really think that makes him a thug....I don't remember how well Lockett was playing but it either had a purpose or he didn't use his head at the time.

he made a lackluster apology after the game, but teammates all acknowledged that USC was headhunting Lockett.

and spearing a defenseless player like that never has a legit purpose.

Demonpenz
10-16-2008, 09:53 AM
heh coming from a guy who looks like a wnba player.

smittysbar
10-16-2008, 09:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0

and yes, I still despise him for it.
That makes him a thug? WTF

Phobia
10-16-2008, 10:06 AM
That makes him a thug? WTF

No, it's that hippy poof that makes him a thug. All those idiots from the islands are thugs.

Phobia
10-16-2008, 10:08 AM
"It's starting to cost too much money to come to work for these guys," coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday.


Cry me a river, Mike. The lowest paid player makes $300k on that list and that doesn't account for signing bonus.

They can afford a $5-10k fine. They might have to pawn a gold encrusted necklace but I'm not too worried about that.

Finally, these fines go to NFL Charities so there goes your fundraiser theory.

Goapics1
10-16-2008, 10:12 AM
Cry me a river

Phil quoting Justin Timberlake song. I thought I had seen it all on chiefsplanet, guess not.

jynni
10-16-2008, 10:17 AM
I've asked this before and don't think I saw an answer but just what does the NFL do with the money that it gets from fines?

Goapics1
10-16-2008, 10:19 AM
I've asked this before and don't think I saw an answer but just what does the NFL do with the money that it gets from fines?

Cry me a river, Mike. The lowest paid player makes $300k on that list and that doesn't account for signing bonus.

They can afford a $5-10k fine. They might have to pawn a gold encrusted necklace but I'm not too worried about that.

Finally, these fines go to NFL Charities so there goes your fundraiser theory.

Here ya go.

CoMoChief
10-16-2008, 10:19 AM
Ok I'm going to disagree with that, going after a guys head is a fine in my opinion. Not to mention it was with 8 seconds left in a blowout game.

Then should have Sammy Knight been fined when he jacked up Kevin Curtis in 2006? I believe we were up like 3 scores at the time.

TrebMaxx
10-16-2008, 12:29 PM
But the NFL can't be pansies! The halftime show on Turkey Day will be the Jonas Brothers.

Sure-Oz
10-16-2008, 12:40 PM
Someone should cut Polipanzies hair or shave it, i bet he'd off himself

whoman69
10-16-2008, 01:45 PM
The tackler lowers his helmet to get leverage. The person with the ball does the same. Helmet to helmet happens. They rate far too many plays as dirty when people are just trying to play good hard football. I think Jack Lambert was right and QBs and wide receivers should have to wear a tutu.

Bowser
10-16-2008, 02:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0

and yes, I still despise him for it.

Eh, Lockett should have called fair catch with Polamalu bearing down on him.


Found this on the same page - Hines Ward erases Ed Reed....



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RustShack
10-16-2008, 02:18 PM
Polamalu is a thug

Because hes black?

Phobia
10-16-2008, 02:53 PM
Phil quoting Justin Timberlake song. I thought I had seen it all on chiefsplanet, guess not.

Oh definitely. That chick is on my ipod and everything.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-16-2008, 03:52 PM
Eh, Lockett should have called fair catch with Polamalu bearing down on him.

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he never saw him coming. This was when college had the HALO rule...

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-16-2008, 05:15 PM
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HE GOT JACKED UP!!

Mama Hip Rockets
10-16-2008, 05:24 PM
polamalu is awesome, and he speaks the truth. i wish he was on the chiefs.