Topeka KU fans - any suggestions on where to watch the game this weekend?

[Lzen]

I was thinking of checking the Blind Tiger to see if they will have the game. They have great beer there. Other than that, I am not sure as I am not really a bar person.

[Skip Towne]

According to the KU website the game is on FSN pay per view. Good luck with that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

According to the KU website the game is on FSN pay per view. Good luck with that.

Kansas has Television?:eek:

[Demonpenz]

Too bad KU fans don't have TV's in their colon's. they would see every game

[Goapics1]

They have great beer there.

Is it imported or something?

[Reerun_KC]

Kansas has Television?:eek:

We just got electricity here in oklahoma last week.

[sedated]

isn't there a big KU following at Jeremiah Bullfrogs (?)

[sedated]

you could always make the trek to Larryville. I doubt there are many bars there that won't have the game

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Too bad KU fans don't have TV's in their colon's. they would see every game

FUCKIN'A!!!!!ROFLROFLROFL

Man I wish I could post links, I've got KU a You Tube prize for the ages. Oh well, maybe by the time we get close to the Border War...

[ArrowheadHawk]

I'll be watching it at home its only going to cost me 29.95 though. The big 12 needs to get a better TV arrangement.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We just got electricity here in oklahoma last week.

I spent the first 15 years of my life in that state. When I left for KC, they had just built a movie theater that showed "Talkies"!
Yep; I'd help the neighbor wind up that newfangled "Horseless Carriage", and we were off and running!

At 15 miles and hour no less!
:D

[ArrowheadHawk]

Lincoln is probably the best place to watch it.

[Lzen]

Is it imported or something?

Micro brews. Great stuff.

[Lzen]

I know the game is on PPV. I just don't like the idea of paying $30 for it. Call me cheap if you will. Of course, I guess one could say that I would spend that much at a bar watching it. Maybe.....or maybe not.

[Saulbadguy]

What time is the game?

[Lzen]

What time is the game?

1:30

[sedated]

What time is the game?

1:30

[sedated]

I know the game is on PPV. I just don't like the idea of paying $30 for it. Call me cheap if you will. Of course, I guess one could say that I would spend that much at a bar watching it. Maybe.....or maybe not.

I'm pretty sure you could sip cheap beer for 3 hours and it would cost less than $30.

[Lzen]

I'm pretty sure you could sip cheap beer for 3 hours and it would cost less than $30.

Lol. I would drink their micro brews. I guess at about $3-4 a pint, it would still be less than PPV. And good beer, to boot.

[Demonpenz]

It should be chilly. Bring in a flask and try to stuff a couple bottle of beers in your pants. Order a beer and some wings. go to the bathroom a couple times to get the beers out. Drink the flask some where in between. Eat the chicken wings go to the bathroom to get the other beer. Pull out pupes stick in the extra ranch you ordered before you went to the bathroom enjoy rest of whats in the flask. Demand that the wings be free. Go to the bathroom drink rest of flask. Piss all over the bathroom and leave. total cost 6 bucks

[Saulbadguy]

1:30

Skinny's is one of my favorites.

If it was a night i'd say stay away from all Topeka bars except perhaps Blind Tiger.

If you want a more family environment Old Chicago would have the game on, maybe. You could call them and find out.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Skinny's is the place to go. They have smoking and non-smoking sides. Good food.

Guarantee they'll have it, Mark's a HUGE KU fan.

Try the philly or the steak...both rock.

[Saulbadguy]

Skinny's is the place to go. They have smoking and non-smoking sides. Good food.

Guarantee they'll have it, Mark's a HUGE KU fan.

Try the philly or the steak...both rock.

Wings.

They have the best wings i've ever had.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Wings.

They have the best wings i've ever had.

yes they do, Nappy makes them just right.

I like wings, but not every visit.

[Saulbadguy]

yes they do, Nappy makes them just right.

I like wings, but not every visit.

Same, I shit my intestines out and it feels like they are lined with jalapeno seeds.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Same, I shit my intestines out and it feels like they are lined with jalapeno seeds.

of course you can't beat the CCQ or nachos either.

and the mushroom swiss burger is a good mixup.



fuck, now I want Skinny's.

[Saulbadguy]

of course you can't beat the CCQ or nachos either.

and the mushroom swiss burger is a good mixup.



****, now I want Skinny's.

The burgers are surprisingly good for bar food.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

The burgers are surprisingly good for bar food.

hell, my parents go there just for dinner sometimes. Mom was a little scared at first, but then she figured out is was a safe and decent place.

[Saulbadguy]

hell, my parents go there just for dinner sometimes. Mom was a little scared at first, but then she figured out is was a safe and decent place.

It would be ok for dinner during weeknights but weekends it's a huge 'neck fest, like any other Topeka bar on the weekend.

[007]

So are you guys actually meeting up or what?

[Lzen]

Skinny's is the place to go. They have smoking and non-smoking sides. Good food.

Guarantee they'll have it, Mark's a HUGE KU fan.

Try the philly or the steak...both rock.

Yeah, I forgot about Skinny's. That's a good suggestion.

[Lzen]

So are you guys actually meeting up or what?

Let's do it. How does Skinny's sound for you?

[007]

Let's do it. How does Skinny's sound for you?Need to make sure my wife didnt' already make plans that afternoon but I think I can probably make it. This is the one in the back corner on Huntoon and Gage right?

[Lzen]

Need to make sure my wife didnt' already make plans that afternoon but I think I can probably make it. This is the one in the back corner on Huntoon and Gage right?

Yep it's at Huntoon and Gage. I am gonna have to say the same. Need to check with the wifey. I am 99% sure I will make it. I know we have a bbq thing at 6pm with her work friends. Not sure if I even want to go to that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It should be chilly. Bring in a flask and try to stuff a couple bottle of beers in your pants. Order a beer and some wings. go to the bathroom a couple times to get the beers out. Drink the flask some where in between. Eat the chicken wings go to the bathroom to get the other beer. Pull out pupes stick in the extra ranch you ordered before you went to the bathroom enjoy rest of whats in the flask. Demand that the wings be free. Go to the bathroom drink rest of flask. Piss all over the bathroom and leave. total cost 6 bucks

ROFL:toast:

It's so refreshing to meet a Football Fan, Musician, and Total Bastard like myself!!!!
ROFL
REP ADDED TO THE 100TH POWER!

[Demonpenz]

ROFL:toast:

It's so refreshing to meet a Football Fan, Musician, and Total Bastard like myself!!!!
ROFL
REP ADDED TO THE 100TH POWER!

I don't call hacking out "more than words" or playing quarter notes on drums over and over with one way off crash fill a "musician" but whatever

[Que Card QB]

Was at Henry T's last night. There was a sign saying they'll have it as well. Smoke free.

[Lzen]

I know the name but can't place where it is located. Where is Henry T's? Any of you Topeka CP members going to be at one of these places for the KU @ NU game? Personally, I like the Skinny's suggestion. Not very far from where I live.

[Monty]

I know the name but can't place where it is located. Where is Henry T's? Any of you Topeka CP members going to be at one of these places for the KU @ NU game? Personally, I like the Skinny's suggestion. Not very far from where I live.

Henry T's is here: http://www.lawrence.com/places/henry_ts_bar_grill/

I'd love to go there...had many a good time in that place back in the day. :)

[Saulbadguy]

FWIW, Henry T's in Topeka kinda sucks compared to the one in Lawrence. Of course everything that opens at that particular location always fails.

[Saulbadguy]

I know the name but can't place where it is located. Where is Henry T's? Any of you Topeka CP members going to be at one of these places for the KU @ NU game? Personally, I like the Skinny's suggestion. Not very far from where I live.

Henry T's is on the corner of 21st and Washburn, were Sarapes, Bourees, etc was located.

[Monty]

Henry T's is on the corner of 21st and Washburn, were Sarapes, Bourees, etc was located.

My bad....I was referring to the wrong Henry T's. I'll take my lashing now. :)

[Que Card QB]

FWIW, Henry T's in Topeka kinda sucks compared to the one in Lawrence. Of course everything that opens at that particular location always fails.It was actually pretty happenin' last night. The dollar draws apparently attract the Ichabods.

[Que Card QB]

I know the name but can't place where it is located. Where is Henry T's? Any of you Topeka CP members going to be at one of these places for the KU @ NU game? Personally, I like the Skinny's suggestion. Not very far from where I live.Bunch of stuff to do. Can't make it.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

It was actually pretty happenin' last night. The dollar draws apparently attract the Ichabods.

which is funny, because when they opened they made a point to state that they weren't really interested in the college crowd.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I don't call hacking out "more than words" or playing quarter notes on drums over and over with one way off crash fill a "musician" but whatever

Well, at least you're trying!

[sedated]

Let's do it. How does Skinny's sound for you?

looks like I'm going to be in Ttown for the game. Are people going to be at Skinny's?

[Lzen]

looks like I'm going to be in Ttown for the game. Are people going to be at Skinny's?

Guru and I were talking about it.

[007]

Guru and I were talking about it.
Damnit, wife has me scheduled to get together with other friends that afternoon. No way will I be able to squeeze both together as I would have to leave before the game was over.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Damnit, wife has me scheduled to get together with other friends that afternoon. No way will I be able to squeeze both together as I would have to leave before the game was over.

You should not let your wife schedule your life.

[007]

You should not let your wife schedule your life.Well, they happen to be friends I want to see. heh

She plans weeks in advance. I don't.

[Lzen]

Well, I guess if we aren't having a Topeka Chiefsplanet gathering, I'll just break down and shell out the bucks to get it PPV.

[007]

Well, I guess if we aren't having a Topeka Chiefsplanet gathering, I'll just break down and shell out the bucks to get it PPV.

Wish I could make it but I hate bolting before a game ends. Don't know why she scheduled things so early this time around. Usually she does these things aroun 6pm or later. Must have been a time constraint with the other parties involved.

[sedated]

Well, I guess if we aren't having a Topeka Chiefsplanet gathering, I'll just break down and shell out the bucks to get it PPV.

well, I'm going to one of thse places to watch the game. I guess we're gonna check out Skinnys.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I wish I lived in Topeka. As soon as I sell my house I will be moving there. I was supposed to move in August but i can't sell my house.

[teedubya]

I can't believe this fucking game isn't on TV. What a crock of Saul!

[alanm]

I can't believe this ****ing game isn't on TV. What a crock of Saul! It was supposed to be shown on Versus. But Monday they decided to broadcast the epic battle between Colorado and Iowa St. Go figure.

[Lzen]

It was supposed to be shown on Versus. But Monday they decided to broadcast the epic battle between Colorado and Iowa St. Go figure.

What? Where did you get this info?

[007]

I wish I lived in Topeka. As soon as I sell my house I will be moving there. I was supposed to move in August but i can't sell my house.Now there is something you don't hear very often. heh

At some point, I sure would love to see Topeka get togethers for chiefs games and the like. One of those, just show up hear every week type of things. Doesn't matter who comes, you just know somebody will be there.

[Skip Towne]

Well, I guess if we aren't having a Topeka Chiefsplanet gathering, I'll just break down and shell out the bucks to get it PPV.

Please post a play-by-play for us .

[BWillie]

Please post a play-by-play for us .

Was just gonna say this. I'm still shell shocked that this game is not on TV anywhere, not even in the local area.

[007]

Was just gonna say this. I'm still shell shocked that this game is not on TV anywhere, not even in the local area.Damn cash grab for a game they know everyone in the KU region wants to see.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I wish I lived in Topeka. As soon as I sell my house I will be moving there. I was supposed to move in August but i can't sell my house.

what a shame...

[teedubya]

My radio reception is sucking ass too. DRATS!!!

[Old Dog]

anyone got a radio link??

[Skip Towne]

Who's winning?

[Old Dog]

7-7

[Old Dog]

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncf/gamecast?gameId=283130158

[Skip Towne]

7-7

Whose favor?

[teedubya]

Briscoe 53 yard TD pass. KU 14- NU 7

[Old Dog]

14-14 now 2:17 to go in the half

[KcMizzou]

Was just gonna say this. I'm still shell shocked that this game is not on TV anywhere, not even in the local area.But hey, we can watch CU-ISU!

Stupid.

[Saulbadguy]

http://www.mogulus.com/HuskerTalk

[Old Dog]

rep to saul

[Mr. Arrowhead]

yea baby 31-21 skers

[Bearcat]

http://www.mogulus.com/HuskerTalk

The chat is brutal... I wish I could be that clever.

[Saulbadguy]

That could be the ball game...and realistically, puts KU at 6-6.

[eazyb81]

That could be the ball game...and realistically, puts KU at 6-6.

Ouch. So much for the resurgence of KU football.

That still should get them into a bowl game though.

[BWillie]

Time for basketball season.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Ouch. So much for the resurgence of KU football.

That still should get them into a bowl game though.
We will probably get fucked like we did two years ago.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Ouch. So much for the resurgence of KU football.

That still should get them into a bowl game though.

Bowl eligible is a hell of a lot better than we used to be.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Ouch. So much for the resurgence of KU football.

That still should get them into a bowl game though.

not likely with as poor as KU fans travel...unless the competition for bowls is slim

[ArrowheadHawk]

not likely with as poor as KU fans travel...unless the competition for bowls is slim

KU had a good showing at the Orange bowl. What are you talking about? And we still could possibly win another game. Stranger things have happened.

[Saulbadguy]

Bowl eligible is a hell of a lot better than we used to be.

tbh, Bowl eligible means very little these days. 12 games, 4 of which you can schedule cream puffs, and you can count FCS wins for bowl eligibility now. Couple that with being 30+ bowls, yeah, who cares?


Of course I expect you knew all of that already. :rolleyes:

[ArrowheadHawk]

tbh, Bowl eligible means very little these days. 12 games, 4 of which you can schedule cream puffs, and you can count FCS wins for bowl eligibility now. Couple that with being 30+ bowls, yeah, who cares?


Of course I expect you knew all of that already. :rolleyes:
Scoreboard bitch!

[Saulbadguy]

not likely with as poor as KU fans travel...unless the competition for bowls is slim

They should get a bowl. Big XII will send Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Nebraska, and Kansas. THat is only 7 - don't we have like 8 tie ins?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

They should get a bowl. Big XII will send Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Nebraska, and Kansas. THat is only 7 - don't we have like 8 tie ins?

yeah, I guess you are correct.

[Bearcat]

Ouch. So much for the resurgence of KU football.

That still should get them into a bowl game though.

It's a program that's never appeared in back-to-back bowl games, and has an all-time winning record versus two of the Big 12 teams... I was hoping for 8 wins, so 6 or maybe 7 wins and going to consecutive bowl games isn't a huge disappointment, even though I was hoping to keep pace with Mizzou. :shrug:

[CupidStunt]

Everyone knows it was a complete (scheduling) fluke for Kansas last year, and the best they can hope for in a normal year is the LonelySingles.Com Bowl against Rutgers or some shit.

[Bearcat]

Everyone knows it was a complete (scheduling) fluke for Kansas last year, and the best they can hope for in a normal year is the LonelySingles.Com Bowl against Rutgers or some shit.

:spock:

They've been to 11 bowls total... a "normal year" doesn't end in a trip to a bowl. Three of them have come in the last 5 years, so last year wasn't just a complete anomaly.

[CupidStunt]

:spock:

They've been to 11 bowls total... a "normal year" doesn't end in a trip to a bowl. Three of them have come in the last 5 years, so last year wasn't just a complete anomaly.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they can scrape six wins together in the coming years, although I can see why you'd object to that.

[teedubya]

KU hasn't won in Nebraska since 1967. holy shit.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Revenge is a mother fucker

[Bearcat]

Revenge is a mother ****er

Nebraska fan talking revenge on Kansas... oh, how the world has turned upside down. LMAO LMAO LMAO

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Nebraska fan talking revenge on Kansas... oh, how the world has turned upside down. LMAO LMAO LMAO

yup Callahan was here. He would fuck anybodies team up.

[Bearcat]

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they can scrape six wins together in the coming years, although I can see why you'd object to that.

Oh noes, the Fighting Manginos won't be going to the Orange Bowl every year! So sad! :deevee:

[Sure-Oz]

I'm suprisde Nebraska won, i didn't even see the score till just now

[Reerun_KC]

Oh noes, the Fighting Manginos won't be going to the Orange Bowl every year! So sad! :deevee:

Nope and neither will MU...:deevee:

[Sure-Oz]

Nope and neither will MU...:deevee:

But they lost to Nebraska

[alanm]

But they lost to NebraskaHey.. The Huskers have a good chance of winning 9 games this year. That's a huge step up from last year. With a new HC no less.

[ArrowheadHawk]

We could get lucky and beat UT and MU and then we would get to play in the Championship.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

We could get lucky and beat UT and MU and then we would get to play in the Championship.

You better hope that you're lucky enough to get invited to a bowl with your .500 regular season record.

[Reerun_KC]

You better hope that you're lucky enough to get invited to a bowl with your .500 regular season record.

We better hope?

Really?

And if it doesnt happen?

I think our NC and Orange Bowl can keep us happy if we dont make it to a bowl game this year...

[Bearcat]

We better hope?

Really?

And if it doesnt happen?

I think our NC and Orange Bowl can keep us happy if we dont make it to a bowl game this year...

Yep... I would have been thrilled with 8 wins, so it's not like 6 is greatly disappointing, and 7 isn't out of the realm of possibility.

The Orange Bowl gave Mangino and company a free pass for a few years (outside of doing something stupid like going 2-10), and the NC took all the pressure off the basketball squad. I guess some people don't get that because they're too busy stroking their own program, but it's a great feeling (but, I guess stroking is, too).

[chiefsfan987]

Not that its going to happen, but which team would represent the North in the Big XII title game if Missouri, Kansas, and Nebraska finish at 5-3?

[Bugeater]

Not that its going to happen, but which team would represent the North in the Big XII title game if Missouri, Kansas, and Nebraska finish at 5-3?
Whoever has the most North division wins.

[Bearcat]

Whoever has the most North division wins.

They could all end up with 1 North loss.

If they were all 5-3...

Mizzou to Kansas
Kansas to Nebraska
Nebraska to Mizzou


There could be a 3-way tie on top of the North and South. :hmmm:

[chiefsfan987]

Whoever has the most North division wins.

They'd all be 4-1 in the North and 1-2 vs. the South if they all finished 5-3. Whats the next tie breaker?

[Bugeater]

They'd all be 4-1 in the North and 1-2 vs. the South if they all finished 5-3. Whats the next tie breaker?

"The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)"

Whatever the hell that means. The tiebreaker procedures are listed here:

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1546006

[chiefsfan987]

"The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)"

Whatever the hell that means. The tiebreaker procedures are listed here:

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1546006

Gotcha. If I'm reading that right it looks like it would go to #5 tie breaker and that would go to Missouri.

[Bearcat]

Gotcha. If I'm reading that right it looks like it would go to #5 tie breaker and that would go to Missouri.

So if Mizzou loses to Kansas, those poor Tigers fans for the next 12 months will hear about how they backed into the conference championship game. :)

[007]

We will probably get ****ed like we did two years ago.Uh, after last year I don't think you should complain.

[Bugeater]

So if Mizzou loses to Kansas, those poor Tigers fans for the next 12 months will hear about how they backed into the conference championship game. :)

Hell they can have it, would you want to be the North's sacrificial lamb this year?

[ArrowheadHawk]

Hell they can have it, would you want to be the North's sacrificial lamb this year?

Good point.

[Bearcat]

Hell they can have it, would you want to be the North's sacrificial lamb this year?

It doesn't mean we can't act like we wanted it just to spite them. :)

I even had a Mizzou fan tell me a couple of weeks ago that they would like Kansas to win the North so they didn't have to watch the Tigers get embarrassed on national TV.

Any given Saturday... I'd rather take my chances than not be playing. However, it would suck for the Big 12 if the south champion didn't win.

[Sure-Oz]

It doesn't mean we can't act like we wanted it just to spite them. :)

I even had a Mizzou fan tell me a couple of weeks ago that they would like Kansas to win the North so they didn't have to watch the Tigers get embarrassed on national TV.

Any given Saturday... I'd rather take my chances than not be playing. However, it would suck for the Big 12 if the south champion didn't win.

That fan is a dipshit

[KcMizzou]

It doesn't mean we can't act like we wanted it just to spite them. :)

I even had a Mizzou fan tell me a couple of weeks ago that they would like Kansas to win the North so they didn't have to watch the Tigers get embarrassed on national TV.

Any given Saturday... I'd rather take my chances than not be playing. However, it would suck for the Big 12 if the south champion didn't win.That fan's a ****ing jackass, and should be shot on sight, IMO.

It just blows my mind, how quickly some of us get spoiled.

I believe you, though. Check out the Mizzou game thread. You'd think we lost by 157.

[Sure-Oz]

That fan's a ****ing jackass, and should be shot on sight, IMO.

It just blows my mind, how quickly some of us get spoiled.

I believe you, though. Check out the Mizzou game thread. You'd think we lost by 157.
I'm mainly pissed about the last 2 tds scored honestly

[KcMizzou]

I'm mainly pissed about the last 2 tds scored honestlyIn the grand scheme of things... they don't mean much of anything, IMO.

[Sure-Oz]

In the grand scheme of things... they don't mean much of anything, IMO.

You're right, but i get pissed off seeing shit like that even if it is our backup defense

I'm happy we won, and controlled the game

[Bearcat]

That fan's a ****ing jackass, and should be shot on sight, IMO.

It just blows my mind, how quickly some of us get spoiled.

I believe you, though. Check out the Mizzou game thread. You'd think we lost by 157.

lol... I tend to think so, too, but without the shooting part.

I agree about getting spoiled... it's strange how quickly people forget where they came from when it comes to sports.

[KcMizzou]

lol... I tend to think so, too, but without the shooting part.

I agree about getting spoiled... it's strange how quickly people forget where they came from when it comes to sports.Yeah... I thought Mizzou was pretty good in the Brad Smith days. Most Mizzou fans were entertained, and basically happy. Now, if they're not going to be in the NC game... Pinkel's a retard, and the team's a failure.

It blows my mind.

[KcMizzou]

Maybe it's the difference between high hopes... and high expectations.

As a long-time Mizzou fan, I've learned to toss aside the expectations.

People act like Mizzou's USC. Anything other than total domination is a huge let down.

That annoys me.

[Bearcat]

Yeah... I thought Mizzou was pretty good in the Brad Smith days. Most Mizzou fans were entertained, and basically happy. Now, if they're not going to be in the NC game... Pinkel's a retard, and the team's a failure.

It blows my mind.

Patient fans are hard to find... once you're good you're expected to keep moving forward and get better and better, and if you've always been good you can never take a step back.

I was doing a ChiefsPlanet search the other day and stumbled upon an argument I had with Dane, Laz, and a couple of other Jayhawk fans right after they lost to Bradley a few years ago. They were saying how Self had no right to be coaching a program like Kansas, and I was trying to defend Self despite the back-to-back 'B' losses.

I'm not saying I was right just because Self ended up winning a NC or that they were necessarily wrong for thinking Self couldn't get it done, since I was once skeptical of him, too.... but at the same time, it was mind-boggling that people couldn't see that the Jayhawks were in the middle of a HUGE transition and that it wasn't going to happen overnight.

It's a hard climb to the top for any team, and it's hard to stay there regardless of past success.

[KcMizzou]

Patient fans are hard to find... once you're good you're expected to keep moving forward and get better and better, and if you've always been good you can never take a step back.

I was doing a ChiefsPlanet search the other day and stumbled upon an argument I had with Dane, Laz, and a couple of other Jayhawk fans right after they lost to Bradley a few years ago. They were saying how Self had no right to be coaching a program like Kansas, and I was trying to defend Self despite the back-to-back 'B' losses.

I'm not saying I was right just because Self ended up winning a NC or that they were necessarily wrong for thinking Self couldn't get it done, since I was once skeptical of him, too.... but at the same time, it was mind-boggling that people couldn't see that the Jayhawks were in the middle of a HUGE transition and that it wasn't going to happen overnight.

It's a hard climb to the top for any team, and it's hard to stay there regardless of past success.

It's the nature of the beast, I guess.

I'd rather have a good team, and have people pissed that they're not the best... than have an average team nobody thinks much about.

[POND_OF_RED]

This game was definitely a statement game for Nebraska. When Mangino ran up the score last year I knew that Nebraska was going to circle this game on there schedule. I briefly remember getting a lot of shit for even suggesting that Nebraska had a chance since Kansas hung 76 on them last year. Lincoln is always a tough place to play. I don't think Nebraska has more talent but they definitely had a lot more desire to win this game today.

[POND_OF_RED]

This conversation from last November is really fun to look back on now:
KU will lose next year @USF. USF is a better team than every team you beat this year. Tech returns Crabtree and Harrell who will beat you by themselves I don't care where the game is you don't want to try to have a shootout with them. OU Tex and Mizzou finish off the 5 loss season. Also you play at Nebraska next year so there is another tossup IMO just depending on which Nebraska team shows up next season.

I heard those same predictions regarding games heading into this season. How did those work out for you?

Your predictions are all ludicrous, considering KU is better than Tech and Texas this year, we return a huge portion of our starting lineups on O and D, and the games are in Lawrence, but the Nebraska one is where you really shine. KU hangs 76 on a team that's going into its first year under a new coaching staff, and it's a friggin' toss up? Who the hell do you think they're going to get to replace Callahan? Vince Lombardi?

Awesome. You can believe what you want. When KU wins somewhere in the area of 9 games again next season, however, it won't be surprising in the least.
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[Al Bundy]

This conversation from last November is really fun to look back on now:



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I remember your post.. I wonder ChiefConcern is.

[Lzen]

Everyone knows it was a complete (scheduling) fluke for Kansas last year, and the best they can hope for in a normal year is the LonelySingles.Com Bowl against Rutgers or some shit.

Well at least we actually won our BCS game last year. Hell, OU didn't even show up. ROFL

[Lzen]

Patient fans are hard to find... once you're good you're expected to keep moving forward and get better and better, and if you've always been good you can never take a step back.

I was doing a ChiefsPlanet search the other day and stumbled upon an argument I had with Dane, Laz, and a couple of other Jayhawk fans right after they lost to Bradley a few years ago. They were saying how Self had no right to be coaching a program like Kansas, and I was trying to defend Self despite the back-to-back 'B' losses.

I'm not saying I was right just because Self ended up winning a NC or that they were necessarily wrong for thinking Self couldn't get it done, since I was once skeptical of him, too.... but at the same time, it was mind-boggling that people couldn't see that the Jayhawks were in the middle of a HUGE transition and that it wasn't going to happen overnight.

It's a hard climb to the top for any team, and it's hard to stay there regardless of past success.

Fantastic post. I would love to see that old thread.

As for the KU football team I am a little disappointed this year. I guess my expectations were a bit too high. Oh well, if we end up with only 6 or 7 wins this year and make a bowl, I will still be happy. Obviously, the defense still needs some work. As for anyone who talks about last year being a fluke, well they just prove how retarded they are. Yes, the easier schedule had something to do with it. But anyone with at least half a brain would know that easier schedules never helped KU win @ A&M, @ KSU, @ CU, @ OSU, and @ the Orange Bowl over the #3 team in the country in past years. People don't want to acknowledge that there are sometimes magical years that everything just falls together for a team. That team probably would not have won 12 games with this year's schedule. But for anyone who would suggest that they were no better than this year's or any other of Mangino's squads, well.....they are just plain ignorant.

[Bearcat]

Fantastic post. I would love to see that old thread.

As for the KU football team I am a little disappointed this year. I guess my expectations were a bit too high. Oh well, if we end up with only 6 or 7 wins this year and make a bowl, I will still be happy. Obviously, the defense still needs some work. As for anyone who talks about last year being a fluke, well they just prove how retarded they are. Yes, the easier schedule had something to do with it. But anyone with at least half a brain would know that easier schedules never helped KU win @ A&M, @ KSU, @ CU, @ OSU, and @ the Orange Bowl over the #3 team in the country in past years. People don't want to acknowledge that there are sometimes magical years that everything just falls together for a team. That team probably would not have won 12 games with this year's schedule. But for anyone who would suggest that they were no better than this year's or any other of Mangino's squads, well.....they are just plain ignorant.

Yeah, some people don't get that.... it's not that Penn State is complete garbage this year, it's that they suck when compared to the top 10 teams in the country and don't deserve to be thought of as a NC contender.

It's the same for Kansas last year. It's hard to win all of your games, and Kansas came within a possession of doing so. It was just a couple of years ago when they were beating La-Tech 20-19 and last year we won our non-conference games by an average of like 50 points per game. Does it mean they were good enough to play for a NC? Of course not, but they still deserved the press and a good bowl game (ahem, not having that argument again).

[007]

Yeah... I thought Mizzou was pretty good in the Brad Smith days. Most Mizzou fans were entertained, and basically happy. Now, if they're not going to be in the NC game... Pinkel's a retard, and the team's a failure.

It blows my mind.If only they could have figured out how to stop the Brad Smith Bottling Co. from Lawrence back in those days.:D

It still amazes me how KU stepped it up for those games.

[007]

It's the nature of the beast, I guess.

I'd rather have a good team, and have people pissed that they're not the best... than have an average team nobody thinks much about.Quit dogging on KU will ya. :)

[Bearcat]

Fantastic post. I would love to see that old thread.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=137404&page=13

The Bradley argument...

Bill Self is Marty Schottenheimer. Great regular season, horrible post season. He should be fired if he loses this game.

Give me a f***ing break, people. This is a team of freshman & sophomores that weren't supposed to be here... and they sure as hell weren't supposed to play for the Big 12 conference crown or beat Texas in the tournament.



I hate KU fans sometimes.

and we hate you all the time ... so there

what ... we aren't supposed to unhappy DURING a game we look like crap in??????

we're blowing off steam


During a game we didn't think we would be in a few months ago. Veteran teams that are supposed to be here are having problems putting teams away.... why blow a gasket when this KU team puts in a crappy 40 minutes in the big dance? Could we really expect more? They're down by 9 with 11 to go... crap or not, they aren't out of it.

You give me a f******* break. KU losing in the first round 2 years in a row to teams seeded 8 or more spots below them? Who gives a crap about the age of the players? I guess Syracuse shouldn't have won the tourney because Carmelo was only 19?

This coach does not belong at Kansas. Period. He was a bad choice from the start.

For the record, I'm more than a fan. I went to KU, paid tuition, etc. I'm entitled to my opinion, especially when I donate to the school on a yearly basis.

You can't compare the two teams... one had a group of seniors that didn't buy into the system.. they were set up to failed.

This one is a bunch of stupid young kids.

Syracuse is totally different, too... they implemented a system that no one plays against and had Carmelo Anthony.

I don't love Bill Self, and I have yet to fall in love with the system, but you have to give him more than one year with Roy's boys and one year with his young stupid players.

Sorry, I disagree. He's taken young, athletic players that are built for the fast break offense that's worked so well at UNC and Kansas and tried to slow it down. Tough defense, tough defenders, blah, blah, blah. I hate it. And I think most KU fans agree.

Matt Doherty would have been a better choice. Larry Brown would have won a Championship already. Self needs to go. No excuses.

This is KU we're talking about. Not the Chiefs, not MU, not KSU, not OU or OSU. KU. The Final Four is the only expectation.

Oh, I remember Self saying he wouldn't slow us down, and "the Big 12 is about running, so that's what we're going to do", and I was bitter last year because he obviously lied.

But, these kids listened this year, they had one of the best defenses in the NCAA, and did what a lot of people didn't think was possible.

I love fast basketball, which is why I didn't mind seeing UNC win it all last year.... and it is still frustrating to see the offense at times compared to a couple of years ago.... but I'm still giving him another year before calling it a waste.

I'll put it this way.... a lot of KU fans have probably said "You think you can win with defense? Prove it."... well, he can't just turn Roy's program around overnight and prove it.
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And just so I'm not tooting my own horn...

Wow.

Nice job, Bradley. The Baby Jays weren't quite ready for "Primetime"....and "The Dance."

You guys represented the MVC well. Kudos, Braves. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Here's to a GREAT Big 12 and K-U season, once the youngsters have grown....in 2006 and 2007.


Fear not KU fans.

this one is differen than last year, we are a young team.

at least everyone will be back for sure, and next year we make our run

Ummm.

That sure sucked A**.

Well, it was supposed to be a rebuilding year. No one thought we'd make the tourney in early December. We share the regular season and win the tourney and go down in the first round like Iowa and Syracuse. I would've been happy with the second round, so I'm less than enthused with this result, but Sedated is right. We'll be a top-5 team preseason next year.

In the long run it may be better, because it guarantees Rush and Wright will stay for next year, when we will have the experience to take the whole thing.

That being said, this is the worst 2-year tourney run I can remember for a major conference school since Arizona 92-93'. In 92, they lost to the #15 seed Santa Clara, and then in 93 they lost to the #14 seed UT- Chattanooga. The next year they went to the Final Four. and three years later they won it all. I'd settle for that.
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Okay, maybe a little tooting... :)

Pittsburgh lost in the first round last year, and the sweet sixteen two years in a row before that, just so all of you anti-Jayhawk fans have more ammo before giving into the idea that Bradley has something to do with this...

You're kidding, right?

Of course not.. why should random MU/KSU/general-KU-hating fan give into the fact that Bradley might be good, after two days of talking about how Kansas choked? Who cares if Pittsburgh played in much better conference than Kansas, and probably deserved a higher seed than Kansas.... they're chokers, too! They haven't given into how Bucknell is a #9 seed a year after they beat KU and won another tournament game this year... why give into rational thought now? Why???

[Lzen]

Wow, reading through that thread was fun. Reminds you of how classy some of our rival fans can be. I like how you jumped on the one douche for the rock choke jayhawk post. It was very lame (the hater's post, not yours). And the comments of how KU fans clear out after a loss. Well, duh. Why would anyone want to stick around to watch the MU and KSU fans mocking our Jayhawks? They are vultures. Of course, we got the last laugh 2 years later. :D

And boy did we have some whiny fans of our own. :shake: I mean, yeah, I was a little disappointed at Self at the time. But he proved his worth the next year by getting to the Elite Eight. And then this past year, of course, made him king of Lawrence. :)

[007]

Wow, reading through that thread was fun. Reminds you of how classy some of our rival fans can be. I like how you jumped on the one douche for the rock choke jayhawk post. It was very lame (the hater's post, not yours). And the comments of how KU fans clear out after a loss. Well, duh. Why would anyone want to stick around to watch the MU and KSU fans mocking our Jayhawks? They are vultures. Of course, we got the last laugh 2 years later. :D

And boy did we have some whiny fans of our own. :shake: I mean, yeah, I was a little disappointed at Self at the time. But he proved his worth the next year by getting to the Elite Eight. And then this past year, of course, made him king of Lawrence. :)And the really nice thing about that, he didn't bolt right after winning the Championship like our last coach to win one. Not that Roy was a bad hire after Brown or anything. heh

[Bearcat]

Wow, reading through that thread was fun. Reminds you of how classy some of our rival fans can be. I like how you jumped on the one douche for the rock choke jayhawk post. It was very lame (the hater's post, not yours). And the comments of how KU fans clear out after a loss. Well, duh. Why would anyone want to stick around to watch the MU and KSU fans mocking our Jayhawks? They are vultures. Of course, we got the last laugh 2 years later. :D

And boy did we have some whiny fans of our own. :shake: I mean, yeah, I was a little disappointed at Self at the time. But he proved his worth the next year by getting to the Elite Eight. And then this past year, of course, made him king of Lawrence. :)

Yeah, I had forgotten all about that particular conversation until I ran across it while searching for something completely different. I remember when Roy left and Self was hired, I couldn't wait to see how it all played out. It felt like I was 14 again, wanting to jump ahead in time to see the outcome of the Chiefs' playoff run ( :cuss: ). Then of course, Illinois and UNC make it to the FF the next year without Kansas and then the 'B' games... which is why "40-12" will forever be etched in my mind as one of the greatest, most fulfilling games of my lifetime. Not for the revenge factor, but for the perfect ending to the Roy/Self saga 5 seasons later. :)

[007]

Yeah, I had forgotten all about that particular conversation until I ran across it while searching for something completely different. I remember when Roy left and Self was hired, I couldn't wait to see how it all played out. It felt like I was 14 again, wanting to jump ahead in time to see the outcome of the Chiefs' playoff run ( :cuss: ). Then of course, Illinois and UNC make it to the FF the next year without Kansas and then the 'B' games... which is why "40-12" will forever be etched in my mind as one of the greatest, most fulfilling games of my lifetime. Not for the revenge factor, but for the perfect ending to the Roy/Self saga 5 seasons later. :)I just remember stating the game was not over when it hit 40-12. I couldn't believe how many fans were calling game at that point.

[Lzen]

Y...which is why "40-12" will forever be etched in my mind as one of the greatest, most fulfilling games of my lifetime. Not for the revenge factor, but for the perfect ending to the Roy/Self saga 5 seasons later. :)

Yes...and...

I just remember stating the game was not over when it hit 40-12. I couldn't believe how many fans were calling game at that point.

Yes!

[Lzen]

...with as poor as KU fans travel...

Completely untrue.

[Lzen]

tbh, Bowl eligible means very little these days. 12 games, 4 of which you can schedule cream puffs, and you can count FCS wins for bowl eligibility now. Couple that with being 30+ bowls, yeah, who cares?


Of course I expect you knew all of that already. :rolleyes:

I thought there were only about 25 bowls. Doesn't matter anyway. While it may not matter in the grand scheme of things in your mind, it does matter in one huge way. Teams that are bowl eligible get another month to month and a half to practice and develop players. That is a big advantage. Plus, you have to know that it helps in recruiting.

[Bearcat]

I just remember stating the game was not over when it hit 40-12. I couldn't believe how many fans were calling game at that point.

I wasn't here that night... I knew UNC would make it a game, but didn't think they would get quite that close.

[007]

I wasn't here that night... I knew UNC would make it a game, but didn't think they would get quite that close.I would have been shocked if they hadn't.

think about the the games Roy coached when KU was down BIG and they came back to win. UCLA is one I remember most.

[Sam Hall]

I just got back from my weekend vacation in Lincoln. I haven't read through this thread. I'm sure you can figure out my opinions. Nebraska made some big mistakes, but they were the better team. It's a good win.