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KCJohnny
11-10-2008, 07:46 AM
New Territory
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As the Chiefs under Chan Gailey continue to make progress on offense, have you noticed the sheer amount of passes completed to the WRs? Not since Paige/Carson have the Chiefs had two outside threats that open up the entire field for the rest of the QB’s array of weapons. Mark Bradley is the X-factor that quietly changes everything in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on">Kansas City</st1:City>.
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Bradley’s emergence is far more important than would seem at first glance. Dewayne Bowe is already the most promising young receiver in the NFL. Tony Gonzalez has not diminished one iota in his performance – and could continue at a high rate of performance for 2-4 more years. But Mark Bradley has already proved that he is a force to be reckoned with which opens up everything on the offense for young Tyler Thigpen. Thigpen has thrown 6 TDs, scored two more and not thrown an interception in games against the Jets, Buccaneers and Chargers.

Not since the late 80s have the Chiefs had 2 WRs that demand the respect of opposing defenses the way that Bowe and Bradley have. Thigpen’s emergence could be a harbinger of the future – a bright, promising future barring injuries. As the youngest team in the NFL, its permissible to overlook the 1-8 start – these kids obviously have talent and are getting the attention of the rest of the league.

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I think Thigpen is the guy. If Croyle had Thiggy’s numbers, we’d all be doing the endzone dance. He has a young tandem of WRs who open up the entire field for an emerging offense that is on the verge of finding it’s NFL identity.

bowener
11-10-2008, 11:27 AM
I have a boner right now, but it is because I have to pee.

StcChief
11-10-2008, 12:23 PM
Does look good at this point as a promising combination Thiggy, Bowe, Bradley, Gonzo....
throw in a Franklin slot, get LJ head on straight or out the door.

Somehow we gotta get a OL to gel....

I agree I like the direction, play calling etc.

Reerun_KC
11-10-2008, 12:24 PM
Does look good at this point as a promising combination Thiggy, Bowe, Bradley, Gonzo....
throw in a Franklin slot, get LJ head on straight or out the door.

Somehow we gotta get a OL to gel....

I agree I like the direction, play calling etc.

Me two and will praise Gailey for getting the power away to make these games competitive...

Gailey should be considered for the HC spot next year. He is making alot out of nothing...

Micjones
11-10-2008, 12:27 PM
Thigpen's emergence and the acquisition of Bradley has meant so much to this team.

Bradley has been flat amazing.

Zouk
11-10-2008, 12:31 PM
If Croyle had Thiggy’s numbers, we’d all be doing the endzone dance. He has a young tandem of WRs who open up the entire field for an emerging offense that is on the verge of finding it’s NFL identity.

This is a good point. If Croyle had Thigpen's numbers I'd be ready to crown him. But since it's a guy who played at Coastal Carolina I still think in the back of my mind he could flame out. I want to believe, and I'm glad there are 7 more games for him to continue to prove it. That drive at the end yesterday is huge on the resume.

Coach
11-10-2008, 12:46 PM
Me two and will praise Gailey for getting the power away to make these games competitive...

Gailey should be considered for the HC spot next year. He is making alot out of nothing...

Don't think Gailey would be a solid HC (See Miami and Dallas for reference) but he's a solid OC, when not Herm-cuffed.

I would not object to having him back next year, provided that he's not handcuffed.

Would like to see him improve on the adjustment department. Seems like we do well in the first half, but struggle in the 3rd quarter into the early 4th quarter.

KCJohnny
11-10-2008, 08:04 PM
This is a good point. If Croyle had Thigpen's numbers I'd be ready to crown him. But since it's a guy who played at Coastal Carolina I still think in the back of my mind he could flame out. I want to believe, and I'm glad there are 7 more games for him to continue to prove it. That drive at the end yesterday is huge on the resume.

Agreed. That drive was far from easy - on the road, against a playoff team, noisy stadium, clock running down, etc... Thiggy even converted a 4th down.

I think Thiggy will only improve when the Chiefs get the running game adjusted to the spread system Chan is running. Personally, I'd like to see some more of the sprint outs and bootlegs back in the playbook to give the spread a better chance. Thigpen is delivering the ball quickly and accurately - and at times looks like Brady back there.

Reerun_KC
11-10-2008, 08:07 PM
Don't think Gailey would be a solid HC (See Miami and Dallas for reference) but he's a solid OC, when not Herm-cuffed.

I would not object to having him back next year, provided that he's not handcuffed.

Would like to see him improve on the adjustment department. Seems like we do well in the first half, but struggle in the 3rd quarter into the early 4th quarter.

Well considering his only Two years as a HC he went 10-6 and 8-8 made the playoffs both years...

I guess that is on par with Herm, neither has coached a team better than 10-6....

KCJohnny
11-11-2008, 04:53 AM
I think Gailey is happy now and that Herm is not going anywhere. The fact that KC is on the cusp of turning things around with the youngest team in the NFL bodes well for Herm. If Herm's plan succeeds, he'll have a solid team that can compete for January games for the next 5-7 years. If the Chiefs have found their QB, the heavy lifting is done and its time to build a smack down defense.

Hog's Gone Fishin
11-11-2008, 10:08 AM
5-7 years! What!!!!!!

Chief Faithful
11-11-2008, 10:23 AM
Keep Gailey as the OC no reason to screw-up a good thing.

I wonder how Croyle would have performed in this spread offense out of the shot-gun. It was obvious Pig could not hold Croyle's jock in the offense scheme Croyle was asked to lead. I'm not prepared to annoint Pig better than Brokie until I have seen a fair comparison.

KCJohnny
11-12-2008, 08:05 AM
Keep Gailey as the OC no reason to screw-up a good thing.

I wonder how Croyle would have performed in this spread offense out of the shot-gun. It was obvious Pig could not hold Croyle's jock in the offense scheme Croyle was asked to lead. I'm not prepared to annoint Pig better than Brokie until I have seen a fair comparison.

I think you are being a bit too tough on T-Thig as he is making it happen in an ad hoc throw togther offensive scheme whereas Brodie had the whole offense designed around him.
Thigpen is demonstrating incredible poise in 4th quarter close games against playoff teams. He deserves the benefit of the doubt - in games Brodie seldom found himself in. Thiggy's production (8 TDs in 3 games, ZERO INTs) would be impressive for any QB, let alone a 7th round draft choice cut by the team that picked him.

bringbackmarty
11-12-2008, 08:14 AM
thiggy is the real deal yo. They said they liked certain things about him better than Croyle early in the preseason. Bradley is total luck. Thigpen will have some bad games this year, but he will win too. Keep gailey on the o for at east a couple more years.

Brock
11-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Keep Gailey as the OC no reason to screw-up a good thing.

I wonder how Croyle would have performed in this spread offense out of the shot-gun. It was obvious Pig could not hold Croyle's jock in the offense scheme Croyle was asked to lead. I'm not prepared to annoint Pig better than Brokie until I have seen a fair comparison.

How can Croyle perform at all, in any offense? The most pedestrian hits take him out of games. On that basis, Thigpen is the best QB the Chiefs have, period.

KCJohnny
11-12-2008, 08:17 AM
I think Thiggy backed up by Quinngives Chan a certain direction to build towards - and the mobile, athletic QB is something that has not been tried in KC since Lenny Dawson was in his 20s.

milkman
11-12-2008, 08:38 AM
Define "Young".

Larry Fitzgerald is only a year older, and is quite probably the best receiver in the league right now.

I like Bowe, but I can only hope he plays at a level close to Fitz.

milkman
11-12-2008, 08:41 AM
I think Gailey is happy now and that Herm is not going anywhere. The fact that KC is on the cusp of turning things around with the youngest team in the NFL bodes well for Herm. If Herm's plan succeeds, he'll have a solid team that can compete for January games for the next 5-7 years. If the Chiefs have found their QB, the heavy lifting is done and its time to build a smack down defense.

As long as Herman fucking Edwards keep playing scared in the second half of games, we'll be a mediocre team.

We'll get into the playoffs, get bounced, and jump right back on the Martocrity train the next year.

It's like a broken fucking record.

beach tribe
11-12-2008, 08:41 AM
Define "Young".

Larry Fitzgerald is only a year older, and is quite probably the best receiver in the league right now.

I like Bowe, but I can only hope he plays at a level close to Fitz.

I think Bowe is on the same level as Fitz. If he cures his dropsies, and we get consistently good QB play he will be in the elite catagory.

milkman
11-12-2008, 08:45 AM
I think Bowe is on the same level as Fitz. If he cures his dropsies, and we get consistently good QB play he will be in the elite catagory.

There's the rub.

Bowe had some drop issues coming out.
It was the primary reason I wasn't really on the Bowe bandwagon before that draft.

petegz28
11-12-2008, 08:47 AM
Thigpen's biggest attributes so far have been decisiveness and pocket presence. He has only taken sacks that he had to take, he has started to dump the ball off and he works through his progressions and takes the shot when he sees it.

He is due for a not so stellar game as some of his passes were picked and called back or should of been picked, but that is any QB. The best thing I saw Sunday was the way he was looking off defenders.

Kylo Ren
11-12-2008, 08:47 AM
New Territory
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As the Chiefs under Chan Gailey continue to make progress on offense, have you noticed the sheer amount of passes completed to the WRs? Not since Paige/Carson have the Chiefs had two outside threats that open up the entire field for the rest of the QB’s array of weapons. Mark Bradley is the X-factor that quietly changes everything in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on">Kansas City</st1:City>.
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Bradley’s emergence is far more important than would seem at first glance. Dewayne Bowe is already the most promising young receiver in the NFL. Tony Gonzalez has not diminished one iota in his performance – and could continue at a high rate of performance for 2-4 more years. But Mark Bradley has already proved that he is a force to be reckoned with which opens up everything on the offense for young Tyler Thigpen. Thigpen has thrown 6 TDs, scored two more and not thrown an interception in games against the Jets, Buccaneers and Chargers.

Not since the late 80s have the Chiefs had 2 WRs that demand the respect of opposing defenses the way that Bowe and Bradley have. Thigpen’s emergence could be a harbinger of the future – a bright, promising future barring injuries. As the youngest team in the NFL, its permissible to overlook the 1-8 start – these kids obviously have talent and are getting the attention of the rest of the league.

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I think Thigpen is the guy. If Croyle had Thiggy’s numbers, we’d all be doing the endzone dance. He has a young tandem of WRs who open up the entire field for an emerging offense that is on the verge of finding it’s NFL identity.

I'd like to see Cottam thrown in to the mix as well. He could be quite a recieving threat. Will Franklin as disappointed some. But, that's partially due to injury. I hope he develops into a good 3rd WR. Webb is done. Goodbye to him.

Have you noticed the lack of Sippio talk? :clap:

PRIEST
11-12-2008, 09:59 AM
You guy's & gals all know when Herm get's healthy running backs ,all this ARENA ball crap is gone.




:D

L.A. Chieffan
11-12-2008, 10:04 AM
Bowe and Bradley are both Pro-Choice

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 04:31 AM
Thigpen's biggest attributes so far have been decisiveness and pocket presence. He has only taken sacks that he had to take, he has started to dump the ball off and he works through his progressions and takes the shot when he sees it.

He is due for a not so stellar game as some of his passes were picked and called back or should of been picked, but that is any QB. The best thing I saw Sunday was the way he was looking off defenders.

Think about this: In the last three games Thiggy has accounted for 8 TDs and zero interceptions. SB QB Ben Roethlisberger has thrown 8 INTs in the last 3 games. Not many QBs can go 3 games having to pass as much as KC does and not throw any pics. Compare to Trent Green's first 5 starts in KC. Night and day. Now, there is the realistic possibility that not much game film/scouting analysis is out there on Thigpen - BUT - that's still a stellar accomplishment for a grass gren NFL QB.

MIAdragon
11-13-2008, 05:09 AM
Gailey should be considered for the HC spot next year. He is making alot out of nothing...

:spock:

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 06:10 AM
This (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5028404&postcount=56) is funny.

John Elway 1st year:
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