Cowher to San Diego? ChiefsPlanet meltdown imminent??

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Cowher to San Diego? Not likely

December 1, 2008 2:25 PM


Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

There are rumors flying in San Diego that the Chargers will pursue Bill Cowher to take over as coach next season.

I am not sure where the rumors started. But all I know is that I've been flooded with e-mails about the subject in the past 12 hours. So, the rumor does have steam.

But does it have legs? At this point, I would say no.

Anything can happen in the NFL. The unexpected happens all the time. I mean, who thought the San Diego Chargers would be 4-8 at this point?

There seems to be much better fits out there for Cowher. There are major rumblings inside NFL circles that Cowher will end his two-season hiatus and end up in Cleveland where he would run the whole show. That makes the most sense. There's a history and Cowher isn't going anywhere he wouldn't have control.

But Cowher to San Diego seems farfetched and impractical at this time. I think this rumor arose because the facts that Cowher is available and Chargers coach Norv Turner could be in trouble. Available coach and potential opening doesn't always equal a good fit.

Unless San Diego completely blew up the entire program and fired general manager A.J. Smith, it would be very unlikely that Cowher would go to San Diego just as coach.

And it would be highly unlikely that Smith would lose his job in San Diego. He is one of the most respected front office men in the league and he has built a strong roster. There is little chance he will be cut loose unless ownership in San Diego is completely fed up. At this point, that doesn't appear to be the case.

San Diego owner Dean Spanos and Smith both said two weeks ago that Turner would be back. But that was before San Diego lost two straight games. San Diego has lost five of its past six games and is on the brink of being eliminated from contention in the AFC West.

Still, if the Chargers lose a couple of more games, it wouldn't be a surprise if ownership changes its mind about Turner. But it would be a surprise if his replacement was Cowher. It is just doesn't seem to be the right fit.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-919/Cowher-to-San-Diego--Not-likely.html

[RustShack]

I think that would be the perfect situation for him.

[BigRock]

Unless San Diego completely blew up the entire program and fired general manager A.J. Smith, it would be very unlikely that Cowher would go to San Diego just as coach.

It would also be somewhat unlikely that he'd go work for the GM who treated Cowher's second father Marty like garbage.

[orange]

It would also be somewhat unlikely that he'd go work for the GM who treated Cowher's second father Marty like garbage.

Couldn't firing Smith be a form of burying the hatchet? That plus lots of money, of course.

[JOhn]

I really think it will be at least another year before he considers jumping back in the coaching circles.

[BigRock]

Couldn't firing Smith be a form of burying the hatchet? That plus lots of money, of course.

If they fired him. The portion I quoted was was saying Cowher wouldn't want to go somewhere with a GM already in place. Even if Cowher didn't care if a GM was there, he still wouldn't go work for AJ Smith.

[MichaelH]

The real issue here is that most coaches get fired after losing seasons. Except Hermie.

[mylittlepony]

I heard somebody mention he was insisting on coaching a team that played the 3-4 D. So it makes sence.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I don't have a link but it was also rumored on ESPN that Marty and Bill were candidates for Cleveland.:hmmm:

[Agent V]

I was never a fan of Cowher coaching in Kansas City, but at least San Diego is doing SOMETHING to dig themselves out before it's too late.

[BigChiefFan]

This is good news, because Mort reported Norv would be back next year-I'm just glad Mort doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and could easily be wrong about Herm.

[talastan]

If Cowher went to Sandy Eggo, talk about a power struggle. AJ Smith and Cowher would be fighting non-stop. I don't see it happening myself. Cowher to Cleveland is much more likely. Especially if the Browns drop Crennell and Savage.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Further unsubstantiated rumors of nightmarish proportions include a possible head coaching job for Mike Holmgren in Kansas City.


Just claw my eyeballs out, remove my eardrums, and sell my Chiefs Gear. Forever.

[BigChiefFan]

The AFC West is ripe for the taking,if Clark would just make a move with a competent head coach and GM.

[Extra Point]

I'm putting Cowher as GM of the Chiefs on my Christmas 09 wish list.

[morphius]

Well, lets face it, Norv lasted a year longer than anyone here expected.

[BigChiefFan]

Well, lets face it, Norv lasted a year longer than anyone here expected.And yet he did more for the Chargers than Herm did for the Chiefs in a shorter period of time.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I would be ecstatic with this move.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And yet he did more for the Chargers than Herm did for the Chiefs in a shorter period of time.

Are you tryin' to tell me that inheriting Marty's work is "doing something"?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I would be ecstatic with this move.

What move? Moving Cowher to SD?

Yeah, that'd be just fantastic; the Chargers can continue to be competitive, and we can continue our fine tradition of doing the "the thumb up ass"-shuffle.

Yayyy...

[morphius]

And yet he did more for the Chargers than Herm did for the Chiefs in a shorter period of time.
Well, he did have so much talent it was hard for him to fuck it up right away, took him an extra off season to figure out how to screw the pooch.

But hey, that isn't me pimping for Herm, 'cause I've never been a fan of that hire either.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What move? Moving Cowher to SD?

Yeah, that'd be just fantastic; the Chargers can continue to be competitive, and we can continue our fine tradition of doing the "the thumb up ass"-shuffle.

Yayyy...

Yeah, they'll win 10-11 games a year and flame out in the playoffs.

That's better than putting in a coach who can win without assistance from the Ref$

[BigChiefFan]

Are you tryin' to tell me that inheriting Marty's work is "doing something"?Yes, Marty and his multiple playoff wins in San Diego.:D Yep, Norv didn't do a damn thing without Marty.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yeah, they'll win 10-11 games a year and flame out in the playoffs.

That's better than putting in a coach who can win without assistance from the Ref$

You build an overall strategy around three guys, you take a major chance that you will "flame out in the playoffs".
Cowher would augment that talent, cement that team, and continue the fine tradition of kicking our asses and ruling the AFC West.
Bank on it.

[Brock]

Cowher won't go there.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yes, Marty and his multiple playoff wins in San Diego.:D Yep, Norv didn't do a damn thing without Marty.

Unless you're being sarcastic; agreed. 100%.

[morphius]

Are you tryin' to tell me that inheriting Marty's work is "doing something"?
Well, I'd argue that AJ Smith was a big piece of the equation as well.

[BigChiefFan]

Unless you're being sarcastic; agreed. 100%.It was most defintely sarcasm.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well, I'd argue that AJ Smith was a big piece of the equation as well.

True enough. Wow! What it must be like to have people that give a shit, and know what the fuck they're doing....

What IS that like? Wouldn't know...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It was most defintely sarcasm.

Then you are most definitely wrong. Just what DID ol' Mr. Rodgers do out there that took Marty's work to the next level?

Please, by all means; enlighten!

[Brock]

Then you are most definitely wrong. Just what DID ol' Mr. Rodgers do out there that took Marty's work to the next level?

Please, by all means; enlighten!


Well, he won a playoff game or two.

[BigChiefFan]

Then you are most definitely wrong. Just what DID ol' Mr. Rodgers do out there that took Marty's work to the next level?

Please, by all means; enlighten!
Gee, maybe win playoff games, when Marty couldn't. Consider yourself enlightened.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Cowher won't go there.

This.

What people fail to understand, is that every time a job opening is talked about, Cowher and Schottenheimer are going to be talked about as candidates - regardless if they actually ARE...

[Brock]

Cowher works for no GM.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well, he won a playoff game or two.

Gee, maybe win playoff games, when Marty couldn't. Consider yourself enlightened.

Choking two playoff births; got it.

[Red Dawg]

he would put LT back as a top fantasy football player.

[Brock]

Choking two playoff births; got it.

:drool:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

he would put LT back as a top fantasy football player.

He already is. That cat lives in fantasy-land 24/7.

[blueballs]

overrated
spit machine
Cordal Stewart still loves him though

[ChiefsCountry]

Cowher is waiting for the Panthers gig.

[Mr. Laz]

it looks like Cowher is enjoying the t.v. gig an awfully lot to me.


meh .... doesn't matter


Herm and Carl will both be back next year ..... accept it and get the tears of anguish out of the way now.

[Buck]

Anything is better than Norv at this point, anything.

[luv]

Anything is better than Norv at this point, anything.

You can have Herm.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Cowher is waiting for the Panthers gig.

Probably. I'm sure he want's to stay close to home.

[BigChiefFan]

Anything is better than Norv at this point, anything.
Herm's record as Head Coach of the Chiefs says otherwise.:D

We don't need no stinkin' playoffs.

[Simply Red]

Gee, maybe win playoff games, when Marty couldn't. Consider yourself enlightened.

Will you enlighten me? I want to be enlightened.

[StcChief]

I'd love to see Cohwer here as GM. Carl has long wore out his welcome, find a real construction PM to manage the stadium overhaul.

[BigChiefFan]

Will you enlighten me? I want to be enlightened.Yes, of course, let's see...New Nostradamus lost book has been discovered.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Will you enlighten me? I want to be enlightened.

Carl and Herm practice the 'Sound of One Hand Clapping'.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=83268&stc=1&d=1228239650

Constantly.

You are now Enlightened.

[Simply Red]

Yes, of course, let's see...New Nostradamus lost book has been discovered.

Thank you.

[BigChiefFan]

Thank you. Why certainly.

Actually, there really is a recently discovered book that they believe Nostradamus and his son worked on together.

http://www.entertainmentopia.com/scripts/displayTV.php?id=31

[HemiEd]

overrated
spit machine
Cordal Stewart still loves him though

The jaw has been over rated, but whoever was responsible at Pittsburgh for continually plugging in new talent, was worth some dough. I would love to have that person pulling strings in KC.

[HemiEd]

Anything is better than Norv at this point, anything.

Herm Edwards?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The jaw has been over rated, but whoever was responsible at Pittsburgh for continually plugging in new talent, was worth some dough. I would love to have that person pulling strings in KC.

I'm glad Jokeland got rid of Kiffin; he was actually whipping them in to shape prior to Davis' usual Douchebaggery.

[Buck]

Herm Edwards?

Hmmm...

You give the Chargers Herm Edwards and the Chiefs Norv Turner and I think the Chargers are in a better position than the Chiefs...

[jidar]

Those dumb bastards never should have got rid of Marty.

[Rausch]

Rausch will fucking kill random strangers...

[TrickyNicky]

Noooooo. They need to stay the course with Norville. They're heading in the right direction. You can't change horses mid-stream.

[chiefsngop]

Clark & Carl working on the successor program for Peterson here in KC.

Millen to be new GM and Norv for HC.

ROFL

[Rausch]

Chiefs sit spinning while SD hires a proven coach.

Yep.

Time to stare real deep at some scissors during an earthquake...

[HemiEd]

I'm glad Jokeland got rid of Kiffin; he was actually whipping them in to shape prior to Davis' usual Douchebaggery.

That makes two of us, and the change in San Diego was also a nice move. :D

[Reerun_KC]

That makes two of us, and the change in San Diego was also a nice move. :D

they are probably saying the same things about us!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Those dumb bastards never should have got rid of Marty.

I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief the day they canned Marty. And when they hired Turner?
I shit my pants laughing.
Ah yes; see Turner's fine handiwork at play even as we type!

Sterling record, Mr. Rodgers; STERLING.

[HemiEd]

they are probably saying the same things about us!

Oh hell yes! They are all chipping in to get Herm an extension.

It is no small coincedence that the AFC West is in the toilet.

[HemiEd]

Hmmm...

You give the Chargers Herm Edwards and the Chiefs Norv Turner and I think the Chargers are in a better position than the Chiefs...

Sold!!!! You have won 4 games this year right? Well consider it halved for next year, and each year, until we reach negative numbers. Then, we start rebuilding.

You want balance? How about we make all three parts of your team suck ass, offense, defense and STs. Then we blame it on the players, and say they need to learn.

Oh, and don't forget, we hire Forrest Gump's grandfather, to coach and mentor your QBOTF!

[Buck]

Sold!!!! You have won 4 games this year right? Well consider it halved for next year, and each year, until we reach negative numbers. Then, we start rebuilding.

You want balance? How about we make all three parts of your team suck ass, offense, defense and STs. Then we blame it on the players, and say they need to learn.

Oh, and don't forget, we hire Forrest Gump's grandfather, to coach and mentor your QBOTF!

Thats fine, and then you guys will be prepared to show up 58 minutes every week, and manage to blow it at the end of every game.

Also, nobody will light a fire under any of the player's asses. I mean they make millions of dollars, and are superstars, they don't deserve to get yelled at.

You will have a new look offense, where instead of Run Run Pass Punt, it will now be Pass, Pass, Pass Punt. THe unfortunate thing about this is that you will have to run the same play 20 times a game, and will probably get picked 3 or 4 times per game.

I'll take Herm.

[HemiEd]

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse. :eek:

[Friendo]

Those dumb bastards never should have got rid of Marty.

:hmmm:

[Chiefshrink]

If Cowher went to Sandy Eggo, talk about a power struggle. AJ Smith and Cowher would be fighting non-stop. I don't see it happening myself. Cowher to Cleveland is much more likely. Especially if the Browns drop Crennell and Savage.

You are absolutely 100% correct. He will be leading the Browns next season, mark my words.:clap:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You are absolutely 100% correct. He will be leading the Browns next season, mark my words.:clap:

yayy....

[RealSNR]

Chiefs sit spinning while SD hires a proven coach.

Yep.

Time to stare real deep at some scissors during an earthquake...To be fair, Dick Vermeil was a proven head coach, too.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You are absolutely 100% correct. He will be leading the Browns next season, mark my words.:clap:

And you'll still be doing the Shannahan, "Rat-Face Mc Cheese-Eater"-shuffle all the way to inevitable mediocrity.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"As the sands of the hour glass fall,
so are the days of the inevitable
Donko-Downfall approaching".

Bank It!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The last thing this team needs to do is hire another retread, let alone one from the Schottenheimer tree.

Does anyone in this fanbase have vision that extends beyond people already connected to this organization?

People bitch about the good ol' boy network, and then give it their utmost support.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The last thing this team needs to do is hire another retread, let alone one from the Schottenheimer tree.

Does anyone in this fanbase have vision that extends beyond people already connected to this organization?

People bitch about the good ol' boy network, and then give it their utmost support.

If the candidate is a worthy, proven head coach, then he can come from the "Verizon Network" for all I care.
Cowher has fire and mojo; two things our current head coach is severely lacking.

[boogblaster]

That slobberin' bastard better come to KC if he knows whats good for him ...

[luv]

If the candidate is a worthy, proven head coach, then he can come from the "Verizon Network" for all I care.
Cowher has fire and mojo; two things our current head coach is severely lacking.

I actually agree with Hamas on this one. Yes, we were a good team during the Marty Era, but what good did it do us? While I want to be good again, I want someone who will give us a shot at the SB.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I actually agree with Hamas on this one. Yes, we were a good team during the Marty Era, but what good did it do us? While I want to be good again, I want someone who will give us a shot at the SB.

Well, we have two SB-proven coaches on the block:

1) Cowher

2) Holmgen

I'll take item #1 please.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

For 2010, a couple of names to keep your eye on:

1) Todd Haley. Currently serves as AZ's offensive coordinator, prior to that he was the WR coach for three teams and served as Dallas' passing game coordinator. Would be 43 in 2010
2) Turk Schonert. Current Bills OC. He was instrumental in Trent Edwards' Development, serving as the QB coach until 2008, when he took over playcalling duties.
3) Clancy Pendergast. Has done a pretty solid job with AZ's defense, but seems to be a 3-4 guy. If he were flexible enough to implement a 4-3, he'd be a much more likely candidate.
4) Mike Zimmer. Currently Cincy's D coordinator. Lost in the horror of this year of the Bengals is the fact that their defense has actually greatly improved, despite the loss of Justin Smith, and the injury to Keith Rivers. Zimmer served as Parcells' D coordinator in Dallas, and he is running a 4-3 in Cincy, and has experience w/ a 3-4, so he has imagination.
5) Jim Schwartz, Titans. If he's not snatched up this year. Has been with Fisher for many years, and has been quite successful in plugging in stop gaps to form an effective unit. The Titans aren't rife with playmakers outside of Haynesworth and Bulluck, and yet have a very impressive D.

Oh and this team should do everything in its power to bring in Mike Martz as a QB coach in 2010, as we will have a stable of young QBs, and he is aces at developing quarterbacks.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I actually agree with Hamas on this one. Yes, we were a good team during the Marty Era, but what good did it do us? While I want to be good again, I want someone who will give us a shot at the SB.

Most Chiefs fans are like jilted exes. Instead of seeing the multitude of possibilities around the bend, all they can do is think about their failed past relationships. Then, when they enter the same destructive cycle again, they wonder how it all went awry.

[ChiefsCountry]

Jim Schwartz :clap:

He is the next great NFL head coach.

[RealSNR]

For 2010, a couple of names to keep your eye on:

1) Todd Haley. Currently serves as AZ's offensive coordinator, prior to that he was the WR coach for three teams and served as Dallas' passing game coordinator. Would be 43 in 2010
2) Turk Schonert. Current Bills OC. He was instrumental in Trent Edwards' Development, serving as the QB coach until 2008, when he took over playcalling duties.
3) Clancy Pendergast. Has done a pretty solid job with AZ's defense, but seems to be a 3-4 guy. If he were flexible enough to implement a 4-3, he'd be a much more likely candidate.
4) Mike Zimmer. Currently Cincy's D coordinator. Lost in the horror of this year of the Bengals is the fact that their defense has actually greatly improved, despite the loss of Justin Smith, and the injury to Keith Rivers. Zimmer served as Parcells' D coordinator in Dallas, and he is running a 4-3 in Cincy, and has experience w/ a 3-4, so he has imagination.
5) Jim Schwartz, Titans. If he's not snatched up this year. Has been with Fisher for many years, and has been quite successful in plugging in stop gaps to form an effective unit. The Titans aren't rife with playmakers outside of Haynesworth and Bulluck, and yet have a very impressive D.

Oh and this team should do everything in its power to bring in Mike Martz as a QB coach in 2010, as we will have a stable of young QBs, and he is aces at developing quarterbacks.There's no way Martz accepts a QB Coach position. He'd want something bigger. Probably would accept a Gunther-like O-Coordinator/QB Coach dual role, though.

I agree, though. But at this point I'd trust ME to go coach Chiefs QBs more than Penis Curl

['Hamas' Jenkins]

There's no way Martz accepts a QB Coach position. He'd want something bigger. Probably would accept a Gunther-like O-Coordinator/QB Coach dual role, though.

I agree, though. But at this point I'd trust ME to go coach Chiefs QBs more than Penis Curl

He's going to get fired by SF by the end of the offseason. That will be two shitcannings in as many years.

[yeti]

If the candidate is a worthy, proven head coach, then he can come from the "Verizon Network" for all I care.
Cowher has fire and mojo; two things our current head coach is severely lacking.

Gunther fits the bill we could just promote him...again ROFL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Most Chiefs fans are like jilted exes. Instead of seeing the multitude of possibilities around the bend, all they can do is think about their failed past relationships. Then, when they enter the same destructive cycle again, they wonder how it all went awry.

The only way I want another "defensive-minded" Coach running this team, is if the Cover 2 is like Ebola to the guy.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Gunther fits the bill we could just promote him...again ROFL

Gun has NO mojo. Gun has misdirected rage.

[talastan]

That slobberin' bastard better come to KC if he knows whats good for him ...

ROFL ROFL

Who is the brave person from the Planet to convince Jaws to come back to KC? ROFL