*****Official KU at Arizona*****

[ArrowheadHawk]

First road game. How will they do?

Late start. 9:30pm Central on FSN.

[eazyb81]

Good luck guys. Arizona pretty much sucks now that Lute has been gone awhile though.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Good luck guys. Arizona pretty much sucks now that Lute has been gone awhile though.Nice. Guess I deserve that. But Arizona is an elite school.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Where are all the KU fans at? Did the MU basketball fans run you guys off?

[Reerun_KC]

I am here....

It should be a good game, but this team is flaky, flaky to no extent... Not sure what to expect with them...

[Skip Towne]

AZ favored by 2.

[ArrowheadHawk]

AZ favored by 2.

I like being the underdog.

[Skip Towne]

I like being the underdog.

I like being a 40 point favorite.

[Reerun_KC]

What channel is the game on? I dont feel like looking....

[TrickyNicky]

Fox Sports Midwest here

[Skip Towne]

Ch. 671

[Reerun_KC]

Ch. 671

Thanks MR Fair and Balanced.... :D

[Skip Towne]

MU losing 20-9. First half.

[Reerun_KC]

MU losing 20-9. First half.

:eek:

[Mr. Plow]

The question all year is going to be: Which KU team is going to show up tonight?

[DJay23]

I have a bad feeling about this game. For some reason I think we get stomped in this one. Hope I'm wrong obviously.

[Reerun_KC]

The question all year is going to be: Which KU team is going to show up tonight?

Who knows, we were so spoiled.... Now who knows... This team has zero depth and very little talent on the bench...

[teedubya]

KU wins double digits... 11 point win.

[Reerun_KC]

KU wins double digits... 11 point win.


Lets hope!

[Mr. Plow]

I really don't think this KU team has as much "talent" on it as some think. I really think we are young with a lot of 4 year, solid type players.

No Rush, Chalmers, Arthur type players.

[Reerun_KC]

I really don't think this KU team has as much "talent" on it as some think. I really think we are young with a lot of 4 year, solid type players.

No Rush, Chalmers, Arthur type players.

I feel that type of players are coming next year.. This just feels like a muligan year...

[Ceej]

Who guards Budinger?

My guess would be Taylor, albeit he's much shorter. But, he's long. The Morris' brothers are too slow to guard him. And please God - don't allow Brady Morningstar to try and guard him.

PUT IN RELEFORD!

[Saulbadguy]

The rest of the Big XII North is sucking it up tonight.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Who guards Budinger?

My guess would be Taylor, albeit he's much shorter. But, he's long. The Morris' brothers are too slow to guard him. And please God - don't allow Brady Morningstar to try and guard him.

PUT IN RELEFORD!
Quit doubting Morningstar.

[Ceej]

Too late.

I'd rather have Taylor guarding him then Morningstar.

[Craqhead]

we win bye 6

[ArrowheadHawk]

we win bye 6

bye?

[ArrowheadHawk]

40 minutes to gametime.

[Mr. Plow]

I feel that type of players are coming next year.. This just feels like a muligan year...

I agree. Frankly, I'm not impressed with the Morris twins. They can rebound, but dear Lord don't let them shoot it.

Taylor has been impressive....at least to me. Needs some work on finishing. But he reminds me of a Chalmers/Robinson mix.

Like you said, I'm really not expecting much. I'd like to see us stay around the top 25 and get into the tourney....maybe win a game or two....and I'd like to see North Carolina Hansbraws fall flat on their face. Other than that, it's a growing year.

[Mr. Plow]

Quit doubting Morningstar.

LOL. He can shoot a little bit, but the guy should be sitting next to Kleinman.

[chief52]

The rest of the Big XII North is sucking it up tonight.

:)

Nebraska Cornhuskers 64

University of Maryland Baltimore County 66

FINAL....

[ArrowheadHawk]

:)

Nebraska Cornhuskers 64

University of Maryland Baltimore County 66

FINAL....
ROFL

[Reerun_KC]

Well we got beat by UMASS... I mean come on!

[ArrowheadHawk]

Well we got beat by UMASS... I mean come on!

UMass....a team with County in their name. Come on thats not even close.

[Reerun_KC]

UMass....a team with County in their name. Come on thats not even close.

OH, my bad.... I didnt realize that, I thought you were being funny...

[Silock]

Anyone got a streaming link for those of us traveling this holiday season?

[Mr. Plow]

There is no way I am making it through this whole game. I'll be lucky to get through the half.

Worked 8a-7:30p yesterday. Then, got called back to work 11p-2a. Sleep at 3am. Up by 7am. Back to work 12p-4p. And now I'm working from home. Haven't eaten in 2 days. Getting ready to have a sandwich. If I'm awake in 30 minutes, I'll be surprised.

[teedubya]

Chase Buddinger is hitting 60% of 3's they said.

[Reerun_KC]

Chase Buddinger is hitting 60% of 3's they said.

Dear God that isnt good...

[Skip Towne]

KU up 7-4 early. KU has 3 frosh on the floor.

[chief52]

Anyone got a streaming link for those of us traveling this holiday season?

Check the TV. Game in on lots of Fox Sports Nets throughout the country. I just checked my DTV and it is being played all over.

[Mr. Plow]

Morningstar is pretty good on defense......:rolleyes:

[Reerun_KC]

Well not a bad start...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Taylor is going to be a stud..... kid just knows how to play.....

[Kyle DeLexus]

Taylor is going to be a stud..... kid just knows how to play.....

I agree 100%. I love watching this kid play with a little more experience, he is going to be a special player.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Hawks really to need to hit the glass harder....... AZ is getting 2-3 chances every possesion.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Nice to see the drive-alley oop play again; almost seemed it went away with Darrell Arthur.

[Reerun_KC]

They seem to be getting better each game... They look pretty solid tonight...

[Skip Towne]

Budinger silent. Thanks Morningstar.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Morris twins playing great tonight!

[Mr. Plow]

Budinger silent. Thanks Morningstar.

Budinger shooting....just not well.

[Reerun_KC]

Still flashes of brilliance, then followed up by youth...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Shit, Taylor.... were you passing that to your GF in the 10th row?

[Kyle DeLexus]

Nice to see the drive-alley oop play again; almost seemed it went away with Darrell Arthur.

Was just talking about this at the game saturday with a few of my friends. One of the things this team has lacked doing is attacking the rim. That play has been a big part of their offense for a few years now and not only is it a very high percentage play but there are few other things that can get the Field House rocking as loud.

[Reerun_KC]

Shit, Taylor.... were you passing that to your GF in the 10th row?ROFL

[Skip Towne]

Budinger shooting....just not well.

There's a reason for that.

[Reerun_KC]

There's a reason for that.

Kaun sucks /CoMoChief

[Reerun_KC]

This is a crazy game...


We are moving the ball so well!

[Mr. Plow]

There's a reason for that.

The breeze Morningstar causes when he catches up to him?

[Reerun_KC]

Self seems awful relaxed with this young team...

[Reerun_KC]

The breeze Morningstar causes when he catches up to him?

Morningstar seems to be playing some solid d

[Mr. Plow]

I'm sorry. I know I allow my dislike of seeing Morningstar on the floor hinder my opinion of how he is playing - but at the beginning of the game, he was a full 2-3 steps behind Budinger.

[Skip Towne]

Where are the hot AZ cheerleaders?

[Mr. Plow]

They're at UCLA this year.

[Skip Towne]

I'm sorry. I know I allow my dislike of seeing Morningstar on the floor hinder my opinion of how he is playing - but at the beginning of the game, he was a full 2-3 steps behind Budinger.

Give it up, comochief

[Skip Towne]

Budinger scoreless, nice rebound by Morningstar.

[Mr. Plow]

I'm not that bad. I actually thought Kaun was a valuable asset to the team - both defensively and rebounding wise. He even threw in some points every so often.

Like I said....Morningstar can at least shoot the ball.

[Reerun_KC]

So far not a bad half for this young team.... They are hanging with a solid AZ team on the road.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

I like Self's rotating of Aldrich at the end there; save him from his habit of picking up a cheap ass foul like he did 3 seconds into the game.

[Skip Towne]

It's a good thing Budinger didn't score. We'd be behind.

[Reerun_KC]

We are so lucky to have Bill Self at KU

[Ceej]

I don't know if I'd call Arizona "solid" just yet this year.


Just sayin'.

[Reerun_KC]

I don't know if I'd call Arizona "solid" just yet this year.


Just sayin'.

Okay, but being on the road in that environment against a team like AZ with the fans, we are handling it ipretty well..

[Mr. Plow]

I like Self's rotating of Aldrich at the end there; save him from his habit of picking up a cheap ass foul like he did 3 seconds into the game.

If he could keep his fouls under control, he'd be unstoppable. He has so much potential to be the best big in the country. He's learning. He looks good this year, minus the fouls.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

For your halftime entertainment Katie Morgan is sitting around naked on HBO again.

[Lzen]

I think this is better than a lot of people expected. A very young team with its first true road test and they lead by 3 at halftime. Nice. The only thing that concerns me is that a scorer like Buddinger usually finds a way to get points. Hope he doesn't start hitting his stride in the 2nd half.

[Ceej]

I think this is better than a lot of people expected. A very young team with its first true road test and they lead by 3 at halftime. Nice. The only thing that concerns me is that a scorer like Buddinger usually finds a way to get points. Hope he doesn't start hitting his stride in the 2nd half.

I agree. Hopefully if Sherron or Cole shows up the second half that will cancel out Budinger (if he does) scoring some.

[Mr. Plow]

Ahhhh boobies.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Not bad for their first half on the road. Another like it and they get their first road win.

[Mr. Plow]

Is one of her boobs bigger than the other?

[Ceej]

So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

I agree. Hopefully if Sherron or Cole shows up the second half that will cancel out Budinger (if he does) scoring some.

Aldrich only had 1 point; so as long as he gets his game going we should be fine.

[Reerun_KC]

So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!

Mario Little :shrug:

The dude make Brodie Croyle look like and NFL Ironman...

[Ceej]

I would also take Mario Little over Mornigstar.

It's just unfortunate he has sand in his 'giner.

[ArrowheadHawk]

So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!
Releford had a nice block out on Budinger while he was in. He may be getting closer to getting some quality minutes.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I would also take Mario Little over Mornigstar.

It's just unfortunate he has sand in his 'giner.

:doh!: Thats a little harsh.

[Reerun_KC]

:doh!: Thats a little harsh.

Yeah a little harsh...

Not sure what KU is going to do with him?

[Ceej]

I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

[Reerun_KC]

I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

Fair Enough....

I was hoping Little and Appleton both would make an impact on this team... Well so much for hoping...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.


I wouldn't mind seeing Self throw a redshirt on him; although I am anxious to see him play also.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

The best thing for us could be a redshirt. Next year's team should be pretty sweet.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.
Jeff Graves turned out OK.

[Reerun_KC]

I am stoked about Johnson and Robinson coming in next year... Plus if we can get Wall and Stephenson... Dude we will back to rolling again...

[Ceej]

I too am all for a redshirt on Little.

I'm just weary of guys like Reed, Releford and Morningstar when it comes to conference time.

Maybe I should worry less.

[Reerun_KC]

The best thing for us could be a redshirt. Next year's team should be pretty sweet.

I wouldnt redshirt him if it cost us Stephenson and/or Wall...

Not worth it...

[Ceej]

Jeff Graves turned out OK.

Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.

[Reerun_KC]

Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.

Hes only a 3 star....

[ArrowheadHawk]

Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.
I believe I read somewhere that Royce would attend tonights game.

[Mr. Plow]

Nice start to the half.

[Ceej]

Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

[Reerun_KC]

in 2010, I want Harrison Barnes and Roscoe Smith....

[Reerun_KC]

Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

Okay...

[Mr. Plow]

Really nice start to the half.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Good start for the 2nd half.....

[Skip Towne]

Ahhhh boobies.

Where?

[Reerun_KC]

AZ is picking up fouls

[Skip Towne]

Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

Nor should they. He's pretty stupid.

[Reerun_KC]

Nor should they. He's pretty stupid.


:rolleyes:

Okay Skip...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Wow that Pac 10 commercial sure overstates themselves.

[Ceej]

Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...

[Reerun_KC]

Time for Collins and Aldrich to take control of this game...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...

Big 12 refs must have called at halftime and got in the asses of the Pac 10 refs.......

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...



You called??

[Reerun_KC]

Wow that Pac 10 commercial sure overstates themselves.

yeah pretty cheesy!

[Ceej]

Quit turning the ball over, please. Goodness.


And get a fricken' rebound.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Seems Buddinger is the Pac 10 glory boy version of Hansborough listening to these announcers.

[Skip Towne]

Quit turning the ball over, please. Goodness.


And get a fricken' rebound.

Morningstar can't throw it and catch it too.

[Reerun_KC]

Damn guys!!!!

WTF!

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

That was a BS foul on Aldrich; there was no contact.

[Reerun_KC]

Self giving some ass chewing...

[Reerun_KC]

Way to stick up for your players Coach Self, Herm could learn alot from you..

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

There you go Bill lets get this game officiated fair.

[Ceej]

Morningstar can't throw it and catch it too.

True, but he could try not throwing it a shade too late when Aldrich's back is turned.


Watching this rebounding performance leaves me some hope we can snag Withey.

[Reerun_KC]

Now we are cold from the field and picking up trash fouls right and left...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Why is Dan Akroyd talking with Bill and the refs just then?

[Ceej]

Morris brothers with some lazy transition defense.

[Reerun_KC]

Why is Dan Akroyd talking with Bill and the refs just then?

ROFL

Ghostbusters?

[Reerun_KC]

You have got to be kidding me!!!! A freaking bunny by Morningstar!

[Reerun_KC]

This game is getting sloppy and trashy now...

[Lzen]

Morningstar, WTF?

[Ceej]

Was that one of the Morris brothers? Oh, no, it was Morningstar.

[Reerun_KC]

Ball game.... Another phantom foul call...

[Lzen]

Reid and Morningstar are making some stupid mistakes. And they are supposed to be playing because of their experience?

[Reerun_KC]

19-3 run by AZ

[Ceej]

The Tyrel Reed/Brady Morningstar show!


WEEEE!!!

[Reerun_KC]

The Tyrel Reed/Brady Morningstar show!


WEEEE!!!

I am tired of Reed and Morningstar... I cant believe Releford and Thomas are not better than those guys...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Where the fuck was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting fucking ridiculous.

[KC_Connection]

What an awful half.

[Reerun_KC]

Where the **** was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting ****ing ridiculous.

Never touched him....

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Someone needs to tell these refs that just making a player adjust his body is not a foul!

[Reerun_KC]

How was that not a foul on Hill for over the back on Aldrich?

[Lzen]

Where the fuck was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Yeah, the refs are calling stuff a little tight, but that would not have even been an issue had Reed not thrown it away.

Are these PAC 10 refs?

[Reerun_KC]

Should of been a foul on Hill there again...

[Reerun_KC]

This isnt going well...

[KC_Connection]

Where the **** was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting ****ing ridiculous.

Stop blaming the refs for the team's poor play.

[Agent V]

Bullshit foul.

[Ceej]

Well, after this awful performance at least we can hope Sherron and Cole are back next year.

Nice transition defense, again.

[KC_Connection]

Bullshit foul.

Looked like a pretty obvious foul to me.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Stop blaming the refs for the team's poor play.

Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

AZ getting every bounce right now.......


let me dribble this ball off my nuts, bobble it around on my chest and toss it up and have it go in.

[Agent V]

Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

That's what I was talking about. I didn't get the Aldrich foul on the alley-oop.

[Ceej]

I admit it, we're getting our asses handed to us hardcore.

But, Nic Wise is flat out garbage.

[007]

Just turned the game on. 29-6 run? Did I hear that right? DAMN!

[Silock]

This is embarrassing. 29-6 run. Unbelievable.

[Silock]

Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

[Agent V]

Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

You're absolutely right. No excuse for the play.

[Reerun_KC]

:shake: That just doesnt seem right...

This is embarrassing. 29-6 run. Unbelievable.

[Mr. Plow]

That cheerleader just fell on her ass.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.

[Lzen]

That was a cheap BS foul. WTF is this? The NBA?

[Silock]

Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.

Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

[teedubya]

My prediction may be a bit off. I'm not fucking Nostradamus, Okay?

[Reerun_KC]

UGH, we need a solid run here... We have 8 min left.. Even though we have played like ass, we are only down 10....

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.


Aldrich on Buddinger was a good call; one of few.

[Lzen]

Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

The first half?

[Reerun_KC]

Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

Well still counting...

[KC_Connection]

Can anybody rebound on this team?

[KC_Connection]

Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.
He jumped right into him and hacked his shoulder.

[Mr. Plow]

Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

[Reerun_KC]

Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

They let them play in the first half = whistle contest in the second...

[chiefbowe82]

this team needs work on playing defense with their feet, and screening out

[KC_Connection]

Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

[Lzen]

KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

Sometimes that stat can be deceiving. If one team is attacking the basket while the other is shooting outside a lot, that can happen easily. Of course, that is not the case tonight.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

KU being out boarded by 10 thus far.

[chiefbowe82]

morningstar can't hang with budinger

[Reerun_KC]

We are just getting taking to the woodshed right now...

[Lzen]

On that last AZ possession, Buddinger jumped into Aldrich but they didn't call a foul. That rebound was Cole's.

[Mr. Plow]

It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

Not saying it is, but it seems like there is a whistle nearly every time down the court.

[Reerun_KC]

Guess what?

Another foul...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Wow that was grade school like........ and KU can't cash it in.

[chiefbowe82]

if we weren't letting them score every frickin time down the court off second chance opportunities we'd be making a run, ok do we have to foul every single time down the court, the hawks defense is as depressing as the chiefs

[Reerun_KC]

Guess what, 9 of the last 10 possessions down for AZ = foul on KU..

[Reerun_KC]

Another foul on KU

[KcMizzou]

Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis.

[Mr. Plow]

I was getting worried for a second. There wasn't a foul for 15 seconds.

[Reerun_KC]

Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...

[KC_Connection]

We deserve all the fouls we're getting.

[Ceej]

I'll take Jeff Withey, please.

[Reerun_KC]

5 min to go, down 12....

Fouls are killing us...

[Reerun_KC]

Hey guess what?

Foul KU

[chiefbowe82]

play defense with your FEET!!!!!!!

[KcMizzou]

:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...Heh... I'm just sayin'... ;)

[Skip Towne]

This young team makes lots of mistakes.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Shit if I was playing for AZ I would just lower my head and run into KU every time down...... whistle will be blown on KU.

[007]

Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis. Heh, like MUrons are any different. :D

[Lzen]

Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

[KcMizzou]

This young team makes lots of mistakes.Understandable.

[Mr. Plow]

KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

[Reerun_KC]

Understandable.

Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....

[KC_Connection]

Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

[chiefbowe82]

this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

[Ceej]

I blame this loss solely on Mr. Plow. He said he wasn't going to make it.


Go to bed old man!

[Skip Towne]

KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

The refs did it.

[Mr. Plow]

I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.

[Reerun_KC]

this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

[KcMizzou]

Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

[ArrowheadHawk]

This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

[Reerun_KC]

I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.
Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

[Reerun_KC]

This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

I dont know, but I marked this off as a L at the beginning of the year... I didnt expect to lose to UMASS though...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

As good of a first half the Morris twins had; the second half is just as bad.

[ArrowheadHawk]

That guy Hill is a fouling mother fucker and they don't call shit on him.

[Mr. Plow]

Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

I'll have to review the tape to see what happened /herm

[chiefbowe82]

Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

[KcMizzou]

This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?I feel the same way about Illinios.

[Lzen]

You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

[007]

This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I feel the same way about Illinios.

Lol, but we do beat Arizona quite a bit I think the series sits at 7-3 advantage KU. About to go to 7-4.

[Reerun_KC]

hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

:D

the rest are meh....

I am so ready for this season to pass and get on with the next guys coming in...

[KC_Connection]

I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.

[Lzen]

ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

No shit. Is it my imagination or should that have been called a flagrant?

[ArrowheadHawk]

That game fucking sucked.

[KC_Connection]

Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

As did I. An easy foul call at any level of basketball.

[Ceej]

I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.


Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

[Reerun_KC]

I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...

[ArrowheadHawk]

I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For fucks sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

[Reerun_KC]

I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For ****s sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

[ArrowheadHawk]

A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

[KC_Connection]

Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

QFT

[Mr. Plow]

Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

But but but....his dad played for KU.

[KcMizzou]

I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

[KC_Connection]

Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

That should be pretty obvious to anybody by now.

[007]

I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.different kind of comeback though. The championship comeback was great but the UCLA comeback was friggin legendary. heh

[Reerun_KC]

A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.

[Reerun_KC]

But but but....his dad played for KU.

Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

[Mr. Plow]

Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

[Reerun_KC]

Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

Not alot of experimenting he can do; with Little hurt and freshmen all over the place he has not choice to coach with a baptism by fire attitude. What hurts is there is no real leadership on the team. Collins isn't it; yet. And Aldrich is no where experienced enough for it.

[Reerun_KC]

Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

[KcMizzou]

True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...I hate you.

One of these days...

[Reerun_KC]

Not alot of experimenting he can do; with Little hurt and freshmen all over the place he has not choice to coach with a baptism by fire attitude. What hurts is there is no real leadership on the team. Collins isn't it; yet. And Aldrich is no where experienced enough for it.

True... This Little injury is hurting us more than we actually realize... I guess what I mean by experimenting is.. Mixing the line ups with Thomas, Releford and Appleton...

But Self is about Defense and if you fail at D, you dont play..

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

I would suspect it is a practice issue and Bill rewarding good practice habits over talent. He did the same thing his first year and a half when he played Moody relentlessly.

[Reerun_KC]

I hate you.

One of these days...

I sorry, didnt mean to rub it in....

[KC_Connection]

Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

So 2 fouls out of how many?



Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.
You are letting your bias blind you here. As much as I'd like to blame the refs, they weren't the reason KU had so many. Arizona played very well and was able to draw them.