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Tribal Warfare
12-28-2008, 10:26 PM
Edwards resolute after Chiefs lose season finale to Bengals, 16-6 (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/955163.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

CINCINNATI | The Chiefs could have made the decision on Herm Edwards’ future more difficult for Clark Hunt and the next general manager had they simply been more competitive Sunday against an opponent almost as down and almost as out.

Instead, the Chiefs barely showed up for their season finale, losing to Cincinnati 16-6 and ensuring a 2-14 record, worst in franchise history.

That promises to make an already uncomfortable interlude for Edwards even more agonizing as he waits on word whether he will coach the Chiefs again next season. Until then, it’s business as usual, or as usual as it can get under some strange circumstances.

“It’s real simple,” he said afterward Sunday, maintaining his even keel. “I’ll go back to work. Unless I’m told something different, that’s what I’m going to do.

“We’ll evaluate the players Monday and Tuesday. We’ll kind of go from there. I’ll set the calendar as far as offseason program goes and free-agency goes.”

All busy work, perhaps. Chairman Clark Hunt will hire a general manager to replace the outgoing Carl Peterson. The two will then decide whether Edwards, who lost 23 of his last 25 games, stays.

Edwards, it would seem, is standing on ground that would be far less than firm. But he said the feedback he’s received from Hunt has been nothing but positive and he won’t make any pleas, publicly or privately to Hunt and the new general manager, to keep his job.

“I’m not looking to defend myself,” Edwards said. “Going into a situation like we went into, a rebuilding mode, you never know what’s going to happen. You anticipate the best, but it didn’t turn out like we’d like for a lot of different reasons. I’m not going to state the reasons. I don’t need to do that.

“Since the Jets game, we’ve improved tremendously. We played a lot of young guys and they gained experience. That’s going to help this football team next year. That was key. We wanted to make sure we did that. A lot of players improved. You wish the record was better You hate to go through this to get that done, but there is a silver lining. A lot of good will come from this.

“We’ve lost a lot of close games. We lost seven games by seven points or less. We’ll figure out a way to win those games next year.”

Edwards said the Chiefs’ decision might ultimately be more about whether he’s a good fit with the new general manager and less about whether he’s a good coach or he’s doing a good job.

Hunt has indicated he will be responsible for the decision on Edwards, but he also said he wouldn’t want to saddle a new general manager with a coach he wasn’t comfortable with.

There’s also a business aspect to the decision. The firing of Edwards could energize a fan base that is rapidly becoming apathetic. Season tickets, once stopped at about 70,000, topped out at about 60,000 this year.

Either way, Edwards said the developments of the last two seasons haven’t shaken his confidence in his ability to coach. Edwards took the New York Jets to the playoffs three times in five years and guided the Chiefs to the postseason in the first of his three Kansas City seasons.

“I think I’m a good football coach,” he said. “I don’t doubt myself. What I’ve had to go through the last two years was for a reason. The first year you come in and take a team to the playoffs and you know that’s probably as far as that team can go. It took two years to get to this.

“You wish your record was better. There’s no doubt about it. You’ve got to win games. I understand that part of it. We fell short too many times. If you win those games, there aren’t a lot of questions.”

The Chiefs never came close to winning Sunday. The game wasn’t as close as the 10-point margin would indicate. Cincinnati, 4-11-1 and last in the league in scoring going into Sunday’s game, had 239 yards in the first half. The Chiefs scored with just more than 2 minutes left to avoid the shutout.

That wasn’t the type of closing statement Edwards was hoping to make.

Tribal Warfare
12-28-2008, 10:29 PM
“I’m not looking to defend myself,” Edwards said. “Going into a situation like we went into, a rebuilding mode, you never know what’s going to happen. You anticipate the best, but it didn’t turn out like we’d like for a lot of different reasons. I’m not going to state the reasons. I don’t need to do that.

“Since the Jets game, we’ve improved tremendously. We played a lot of young guys and they gained experience. That’s going to help this football team next year. That was key. We wanted to make sure we did that. A lot of players improved. You wish the record was better You hate to go through this to get that done, but there is a silver lining. A lot of good will come from this.

“We’ve lost a lot of close games. We lost seven games by seven points or less. We’ll figure out a way to win those games next year.”


Not going to defend and make excuses while doing so in the same excerpt. ROFL

Bwana
12-28-2008, 10:31 PM
Fire him over the Internet.

milkman
12-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Herman fucking Edwards perception of himself as a good coach begs the head scatching question that really can't be answered.

Do stupid people know they're stupid?

The Bad Guy
12-28-2008, 10:34 PM
“I’m not looking to defend myself,” Edwards said. “Going into a situation like we went into, a rebuilding mode, you never know what’s going to happen. You anticipate the best, but it didn’t turn out like we’d like for a lot of different reasons. I’m not going to state the reasons. I don’t need to do that.

“Since the Jets game, we’ve improved tremendously. We played a lot of young guys and they gained experience. That’s going to help this football team next year. That was key. We wanted to make sure we did that. A lot of players improved. You wish the record was better You hate to go through this to get that done, but there is a silver lining. A lot of good will come from this.

“We’ve lost a lot of close games. We lost seven games by seven points or less. We’ll figure out a way to win those games next year.”



I pray to god that he's losing games for another franchise next year.

You are 2-23 in your last 25 games. 2 fucking wins. Even awful NFL coaches luck into 2-3 wins. My god, I just can't believe the arrogance of someone who's job is judged in wins and losses when they have produced so little.

He won't defend himself, but a ton of that paragraph is one GIANT EXCUSE.

It's only rebuilding when you are losing. You don't hear the word rebuilding from the Falcons.

Chief77
12-28-2008, 10:35 PM
Do stinky people know they stink?

Reerun_KC
12-28-2008, 10:49 PM
Do Ugly people know they are Ugly?

Hammock Parties
12-28-2008, 10:55 PM
“I’m not looking to defend myself,”

Might explain your defense.

the Talking Can
12-28-2008, 10:55 PM
we were non-competitive against a 3 win team

that ain't progress

smittysbar
12-28-2008, 10:57 PM
Might explain your defense.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Bowser
12-28-2008, 11:00 PM
You're 15-34 as a Chiefs head coach, Herm. Gunther Cunningham, who admitted was in over his head as a head coach, won more games than you have in TWO seasons. Get the fuck away from my team.

Bowser
12-28-2008, 11:00 PM
I wonder what Herm's won/loss would look like if he didn't have Vermeil's vets to inflate his '06 winning percentage....

Rausch
12-28-2008, 11:04 PM
You're 15-34 as a Chiefs head coach, Herm. Gunther Cunningham, who admitted was in over his head as a head coach, won more games than you have in TWO seasons. Get the **** away from my team.

This game reminds me of Gun's last game as HC.

Uninspired, confusing, bungled from start to finish...

Hammock Parties
12-28-2008, 11:08 PM
I feel kinda bad for ripping on Herm. Every time he comes out talking like this he makes it seem like he has something special under the curtain and he's just waiting until the right time to unveil it. He makes me feel like if he gets fired, we're gonna miss out on him laying down the straight flush now that he's been dealt two more cards. I mean, he DID make the playoffs four times. Am I crazy? I'M SO CONFLICTED!

Bowser
12-28-2008, 11:11 PM
I feel kinda bad for ripping on Herm. Every time he comes out talking like this he makes it seem like he has something special under the curtain and he's just waiting until the right time to unveil it. He makes me feel like if he gets fired, we're gonna miss out on him laying down the straight flush now that he's been dealt two more cards. I mean, he DID make the playoffs four times. Am I crazy? I'M SO CONFLICTED!

Don't buy the bullshit, and don't feel sorry for him.

Extra Point
12-28-2008, 11:18 PM
Don't buy the bullshit, and don't feel sorry for him.


I don't.

Signed,

Jack Harry

Bowser
12-28-2008, 11:22 PM
This game reminds me of Gun's last game as HC.

Uninspired, confusing, bungled from start to finish...

I remember that game against the Falcons. Tony was within reach of either 100 catches or 1,200 yards, or some such receiving record, and they made a minimal effort to try and get him the ball. Icing on the shit cake of that season.

FringeNC
12-28-2008, 11:30 PM
I feel kinda bad for ripping on Herm. Every time he comes out talking like this he makes it seem like he has something special under the curtain and he's just waiting until the right time to unveil it. He makes me feel like if he gets fired, we're gonna miss out on him laying down the straight flush now that he's been dealt two more cards. I mean, he DID make the playoffs four times. Am I crazy? I'M SO CONFLICTED!

Take someone with you for guidance when you go to the Used Car lot.

Chieftain58
12-28-2008, 11:33 PM
Herman ****ing Edwards perception of himself as a good coach begs the head scatching question that really can't be answered.

Do stupid people know they're stupid?

Do you?

chiefzilla1501
12-28-2008, 11:39 PM
I feel kinda bad for ripping on Herm. Every time he comes out talking like this he makes it seem like he has something special under the curtain and he's just waiting until the right time to unveil it. He makes me feel like if he gets fired, we're gonna miss out on him laying down the straight flush now that he's been dealt two more cards. I mean, he DID make the playoffs four times. Am I crazy? I'M SO CONFLICTED!

You're not crazy. People will give you excuse after excuse for why he made the playoffs with the Jets, yet unflinchingly blame him when he loses with the Chiefs. For some reason, fans like to think in extremes. People think a player/coach is either really awesome or really crappy. Nobody can accept that maybe a player/coach could be somewhere in between.

Take me, for example. I think he's an average coach, and yet I get a lot of shit for being a "Herm supporter." People can't accept that I think Herm is good at some things. He's not 100% inept. With a good roster, Herm's an 8-8 to 9-7 coach with an occasional playoff win in him. That's the endgame we can expect if we keep Herm. As a Chiefs' fan, I've seen that kind of season way too much, which is why I support a decision to get rid of him. Those results aren't bad. They're not great. They're average.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-29-2008, 02:22 AM
Might explain your defense.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL Nice.

I don't.

Signed,

Jack Harry

I think Jack is truly the only person in existence who actually Jizzed His Pant's with Carl's demise.

I remember that game against the Falcons. Tony was within reach of either 100 catches or 1,200 yards, or some such receiving record, and they made a minimal effort to try and get him the ball. Icing on the shit cake of that season.

Herm Edwards is the Sarah Silverman of coaching; just...nothing...and no good.

blueballs
12-29-2008, 05:10 AM
You can win the draft
and lose the team