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Red Dawg
12-30-2008, 05:35 PM
Cowher doesn't want to coach so get Shanny!


No other titles, just HC. He would be fantastic to have and no I don't care if half the city hates him.

corandval
12-30-2008, 05:36 PM
NO!

SPATCH
12-30-2008, 05:36 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:37 PM
Uh no...

Bwana
12-30-2008, 05:37 PM
:spock:

the Talking Can
12-30-2008, 05:37 PM
let's don't and pretend we never had this conversation

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 05:37 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.

Donger
12-30-2008, 05:38 PM
Other than him being an ex-Bronco HC, why not?

Buck
12-30-2008, 05:38 PM
Shanahan > Herm + Norv combined

Red Brooklyn
12-30-2008, 05:39 PM
let's don't and pretend we never had this conversation

DEAL!

Next....

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:39 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.

You're kidding, right?
You're clamoring for the coach who's averaged 8 wins a year since his last division title?

His best years were shared with a guy named John Elway.

SPATCH
12-30-2008, 05:39 PM
ok... someone's supposed to say something along the lines of "anybody but herm" blah blah blah

Bwana
12-30-2008, 05:39 PM
Shanahan > Herm + Norv combined

Um, that's not saying a hell of a lot.

Red Dawg
12-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.


DAMN RIGHT!

the Talking Can
12-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.

does the include Bowlen?

the rat hasn't accomplished shit since elway left

kstater
12-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.

I'm kind of viewing him as like Bradford. If the other options are gone, he'll be fine I guess.

Reaper16
12-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Other than him being an ex-Bronco HC, why not?
That's like German voters talking about whether or not to elect Hitler: "Other than him wanting to exterminate every Jew and take over other countries and stuff, why not?"

SPATCH
12-30-2008, 05:41 PM
That's like German voters talking about whether or not to elect Hitler: "Other than him wanting to exterminate every Jew and take over other countries and stuff, why not?"

nazi analogies are used a tad too liberally in today's world me thinks

chiefs1111
12-30-2008, 05:43 PM
I don't want rat face anywhere near the Chiefs

Red Dawg
12-30-2008, 05:43 PM
You're kidding, right?
You're clamoring for the coach who's averaged 8 wins a year since his last division title?

His best years were shared with a guy named John Elway.

Cowher is out and nobody wants Marty who doesn't want the job anyway. Who better than Shanny is outb there?

Mile High Mania
12-30-2008, 05:43 PM
I said this on another thread... but, I think he's worn out. Shanahan hasn't had time off really since the 80s.

He went from being on Reeve's staff, to OAK and then the 49ers where he helped them win a title... then, since 1995 he has been the man in Denver. That's a long damn time and I think he has burnout.

I haven't seen that fire or creativity in a few years. The last couple of drafts were great and that inspired him a bit, but he needs to step away and recharge. Take a year off and he'll still be on the top of any team's list looking for a HC.

Reaper16
12-30-2008, 05:44 PM
nazi analogies are used a tad too liberally in today's world me thinks
I actually agree.

But this is the Broncos we're talking about here. It's apt.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 05:44 PM
You're kidding, right?
You're clamoring for the coach who's averaged 8 wins a year since his last division title?

His best years were shared with a guy named John Elway.

Elway has been retired for 10 years. Shanahan has 4 below .500 seasons in his 14 years with Denver. 3 of those were 8-8 seasons. The other was 7-9. I wouldn't give him a GM's job, but I'd definitely be interested in talking with him.

I'm not saying you're an idiot if you ultimately don't want him, but I think it's dumb to not want to sit down and talk to a guy who went 146-98 in Denver over 14 years. 10 of them without Elway.

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:44 PM
Cowher is out and nobody wants Marty who doesn't want the job anyway. Who better than Shanny is outb there?

If we're talking NFL resumes... No one.
But the reality of the matter is that this guy has won 24 games his last three NFL seasons.

He just pissed away a three game lead to a team everyone thought was dead in the water. With one last opportunity to send his team to the post-season the Broncos got trounced by a bad San Diego team.

Donger
12-30-2008, 05:45 PM
That's like German voters talking about whether or not to elect Hitler: "Other than him wanting to exterminate every Jew and take over other countries and stuff, why not?"

I think that's a bit much, don't you? So, other than the ex HC thing, why not?

SPATCH
12-30-2008, 05:45 PM
I actually agree.

But this is the Broncos we're talking about here. It's apt.

*subtly nods in agreement*

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 05:46 PM
If we're talking NFL resumes... No one.
But the reality of the matter is that this guy has won 24 games his last three NFL seasons.

He just pissed away a three game lead to a team everyone thought was dead in the water. With one last opportunity to send his team to the post-season the Broncos got trounced by a bad San Diego team.

He had an absolutely terrible D coordinator. That is his one weakness and probably cost him his job. He didn't want to fire Slowik.

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:47 PM
Elway has been retired for 10 years. Shanahan has 4 below .500 seasons in his 14 years with Denver. 3 of those were 8-8 seasons. The other was 7-9. I wouldn't give him a GM's job, but I'd definitely be interested in talking with him.

I'm not saying you're an idiot if you ultimately don't want him, but I think it's dumb to not want to sit down and talk to a guy who went 146-98 in Denver over 14 years. 10 of them without Elway.

Since Elway retired he's managed to lead the Broncos to just 1 division title.
The last three years he's coached his team to 9 wins, 7 wins, and 8 wins (respectively).

He's overrated.

joesomebody
12-30-2008, 05:47 PM
NO

Mile High Mania
12-30-2008, 05:47 PM
Shanahan has 4 below .500 seasons in his 14 years with Denver. 3 of those were 8-8 seasons.

8-8 isn't 'below' .500

the Talking Can
12-30-2008, 05:48 PM
I said this on another thread... but, I think he's worn out. Shanahan hasn't had time off really since the 80s.

He went from being on Reeve's staff, to OAK and then the 49ers where he helped them win a title... then, since 1995 he has been the man in Denver. That's a long damn time and I think he has burnout.

I haven't seen that fire or creativity in a few years. The last couple of drafts were great and that inspired him a bit, but he needs to step away and recharge. Take a year off and he'll still be on the top of any team's list looking for a HC.

yup....which is why i don't understand why people are so hot for him

he needs a break just like cowher

banyon
12-30-2008, 05:49 PM
People say he's been mediocre since Elway left, but he's been even worse since Alex Gibbs departed.

banyon
12-30-2008, 05:49 PM
Hell just hire Brian Billick if we are going to do this s***.

Iowanian
12-30-2008, 05:50 PM
WTF is wrong with you son? You have a scratch on your record or something?

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:50 PM
He had an absolutely terrible D coordinator. That is his one weakness and probably cost him his job. He didn't want to fire Slowik.

What about previously when Denver had a Top 10 defense four years running?
He can't pin his firing on Bob Slowik.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 05:51 PM
Since Elway retired he's managed to lead the Broncos to just 1 division title.
The last three years he's coached his team to 9 wins, 7 wins, and 8 wins (respectively).

He's overrated.

I just went over to NFL.com and looked at the last decade. It was shocking. It seems like Denver is always in the thick of things, but they have been downright mediocre since 1999. I retract my previous statements, and apologize for making anyone dumber for having listened to it. He is overrated.

KC Dan
12-30-2008, 05:51 PM
Screw hiring shanarat. Just fire Herm!!! NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

the Talking Can
12-30-2008, 05:54 PM
and they have gotten piss pounded in the playoffs since elway....

Micjones
12-30-2008, 05:55 PM
I just went over to NFL.com and looked at the last decade. It was shocking. It seems like Denver is always in the thick of things, but they have been downright mediocre since 1999. I retract my previous statements, and apologize for making anyone dumber for having listened to it. He is overrated.

I wouldn't say that. They've had 4 playoff appearances since '99.
Three of them resulted in losses in the opening round though.

He had a three year run that was pretty impressive. '03-'05. I thought that was his best chance at winning another Superbowl. He fell just short in the one chance he had (losing to Pittsburgh).

The last 3 years? Definitely mediocre.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Terrell Davis just predicted Shanahan will be the coach of the Chiefs in 2009.

KC Dan
12-30-2008, 06:02 PM
Terrell Davis just predicted Shanahan will be the coach of the Chiefs in 2009.
Herm's gotta go first. And, damn it if he isn't still there... I really don't care who the Chiefs HC is for 2009 as long as they don't introduce Herm on opening day. I don't want shanarat but anything is better than Herm

Basileus777
12-30-2008, 06:10 PM
Shanahan is a good coach, bad GM. Despite the past, he wouldn't be a bad coach for us.

DT58HOF
12-30-2008, 06:11 PM
SIGN HIM UP NOW!! He is the best coach in the AFC West, the others are idiots, he will crush the Bronco's

Hammock Parties
12-30-2008, 06:17 PM
Shanahan + Pioli in 09. I'm on board

As long as The Rat can leave the defensive decision-making to someone else, he can nibble on our cheese.

cabletech94
12-30-2008, 06:22 PM
SIGN HIM UP NOW!! He is the best coach in the AFC West, the others are idiots, he will crush the Bronco's

As much as I hate to think it out loud...This would pretty much guarentee 6 and 0 in the division.

triple
12-30-2008, 06:22 PM
douche

BigVE
12-30-2008, 06:24 PM
Lets sign him as an ASSISTANT...HERM would be his boss. :)

R&GHomer
12-30-2008, 06:28 PM
Cowher doesn't want to coach so get Shanny!


No other titles, just HC. He would be fantastic to have and no I don't care if half the city hates him.

Seriously..... **** NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You need to be strung up by your nut sack. I would rather have 10 more years of watching Carl shove it in our collective asses then have that cock bite as my teams HC.

YOU JUST HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE!!! FOR ****S SAKE.

LiL stumppy
12-30-2008, 06:30 PM
Anyone who has zero interest in Mike Shanahan as their head coach doesn't know shit about football.

Exactly, he is better than anyone we have had in a long while.

Colt4540
12-30-2008, 06:30 PM
The only way I would want Shanarat as a coach is if he was an O Coord. But on that same note I don't think Gailey will get or even deserves to get fired and I don't see Shanarat taking anything less then a Coord. position.

R&GHomer
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
That would be like Great Britain asking Hitler not to kill himself so he could become their next Secretary of Defense. I mean he wasn't all bad. Right?

chief52
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
I said this on another thread... but, I think he's worn out. Shanahan hasn't had time off really since the 80s.

He went from being on Reeve's staff, to OAK and then the 49ers where he helped them win a title... then, since 1995 he has been the man in Denver. That's a long damn time and I think he has burnout.

I haven't seen that fire or creativity in a few years. The last couple of drafts were great and that inspired him a bit, but he needs to step away and recharge. Take a year off and he'll still be on the top of any team's list looking for a HC.

Could not agree more. He could use a year off more than any of them. You can see it in him. He is set...time to re-charge.

Dave Lane
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
Wow I think I'd prefer him to Cowher. God he'd have a hard on for Denver!!

KCChiefsFan88
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

LiL stumppy
12-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

Wont happen.

chief52
12-30-2008, 06:36 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

Why would you put Saunders below Martz? I know I would not... He was not at all popular with the 49'ers staff.

Basileus777
12-30-2008, 06:37 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

Shanahan isn't going to run Saunders/Martz's Air Coryell.

blueballs
12-30-2008, 06:38 PM
Seattle for some reason
seems about right

R&GHomer
12-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Why would you put Saunders below Martz? I know I would not... He was not at all popular with the 49'ers staff.

Martz is a putz. I would take Saunders over him any day.

petegz28
12-30-2008, 06:41 PM
Cowher doesn't want to coach so get Shanny!


No other titles, just HC. He would be fantastic to have and no I don't care if half the city hates him.

:spock:

Colt4540
12-30-2008, 06:44 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

Won't ever happen and I wouldn't even want it to happen unless you could bring in a bad*** D Coord. and I would still rather see Cowher as a HC.

OnTheWarpath15
12-30-2008, 06:47 PM
Mike Shanahan as head coach, Mike Martz as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders as an offensive assistant would satisfy me (if the Chiefs don't end up getting Pioli/Josh McDaniels)

Great idea.

Nothing says "Develop a young QB" quite like throwing 50 times a game, out of 5 wide sets with no protection, and abandoning your running game.

Recipe for success, I tell you...

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 06:47 PM
What about previously when Denver had a Top 10 defense four years running?
He can't pin his firing on Bob Slowik.

No, but Pat Bowlen can. CBS 4 in Denver is reporting that Pat wanted Slowek out, and Shanny refused.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-30-2008, 06:48 PM
Seattle for some reason
seems about right

Seattle has a head coach. Mora Jr. would be pretty pissed if he got the axe before ever suiting up for a game. Especially since he turned down the coaching gig of his old alma mater a couple of months ago.

Somewhere Arthur Blank would smile though.

KCChiefsFan88
12-30-2008, 06:53 PM
Great idea.

Nothing says "Develop a young QB" quite like throwing 50 times a game, out of 5 wide sets with no protection, and abandoning your running game.

Recipe for success, I tell you...

Didn't seem to affect the development of Trent Green and Marc Bulger as decent NFL QB's.

OnTheWarpath15
12-30-2008, 06:54 PM
Didn't seem to affect the development of Trent Green and Marc Bulger as decent NFL QB's.

Forgive me for wanting more than "decent."

beach tribe
12-30-2008, 06:59 PM
I used to like you tuck.

beach tribe
12-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Forgive me for wanting more than "decent."

+1

R&GHomer
12-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Forgive me for wanting more than "decent."

Decent?

KCChiefsFan88
12-30-2008, 07:10 PM
Forgive me for wanting more than "decent."

Trent Green and Marc Bulger in their primes were Pro Bowl caliber QBs. The Chiefs would will be served if they could develop a young QB into the likes of a Trent Green or Marc Bulger.

OnTheWarpath15
12-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Trent Green and Marc Bulger in their primes were Pro Bowl caliber QBs. The Chiefs would will be served if they could develop a young QB into the likes of a Trent Green or Marc Bulger.

And their primes lasted all of 3-4 years. Not nearly long enough.

In Bulger's case, it was a direct result of the beatings he's taken because of Martz' philosophy.

Halfcan
12-30-2008, 07:18 PM
does the include Bowlen?

the rat hasn't accomplished shit since elway left

:clap:

F the Rat!

Tiger's Fan
12-30-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm of the 'anyone but Herm' ilk, but not in this instance.

xiandude
12-30-2008, 07:50 PM
Shanahan will not be coming to KC. He had years left on his contract and will probably be an analyst for a year while he continues to collect his money. Gailey is an excellent OC; if he had more than kids to work with KC would have been a contender. Gailey will stay. Yes, we need a change on defense - either a coaching change or abandon the awful cover-two. As for Edwards, give him another year. His first year was clearly on Peterson's watch, year two was an attempt at putting a band-aid on a corpse. This third year required blowing the whole thing up and stating over. Give him another year with a new GM.

journeyscarab
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
PLEASE CLARK, GROW SOME BALLS AND FIRE HERM AND HIRE SHANNY!!! WE NEED HIM!!!

kcpasco
12-30-2008, 07:54 PM
PLEASE CLARK, GROW SOME BALLS AND FIRE HERM

fixt

KCJohnny
12-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Shanahan will not be coming to KC. He had years left on his contract and will probably be an analyst for a year while he continues to collect his money. Gailey is an excellent OC; if he had more than kids to work with KC would have been a contender. Gailey will stay. Yes, we need a change on defense - either a coaching change or abandon the awful cover-two. As for Edwards, give him another year. His first year was clearly on Peterson's watch, year two was an attempt at putting a band-aid on a corpse. This third year required blowing the whole thing up and stating over. Give him another year with a new GM.

:clap:

It takes a n00b to inject some common sense here.

KCChiefsFan88
12-30-2008, 07:58 PM
:clap:

It takes a n00b to inject some common sense here.

When Herm is shit-canned to the curb can you leave with him?

MahiMike
12-30-2008, 08:02 PM
He's another Holmgren. A very good coach suffering from his own personnel moves. Remember, they took the entire Cleveland DL?

Reerun_KC
12-30-2008, 08:02 PM
ROFL

This thread sucks!

KCJohnny
12-30-2008, 08:03 PM
When Herm is shit-canned to the curb can you leave with him?

Oh my heavens, no. Unlike you whiners, I actually enjoy Chiefs football. I can even comment on the team without resorting to ugly remarks about my fellow enthusiasts. You need me, Mr. KCChiefsfan88.

And I'll be right here as long as God Almighty gives breath to my lungs.

Go Chiefs!
:arrow:

"Bob" Dobbs
12-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Here's an idea. If Clark were to fire Herm NOW, maybe he'd go to Denver! Herm Edwards, HC of the Donks. I like it.

Mecca
12-30-2008, 08:16 PM
If we're gonna draft a QB first I can't think of a head coach I'd rather have.

memyselfI
12-30-2008, 08:47 PM
Cowher doesn't want to coach so get Shanny!


No other titles, just HC. He would be fantastic to have and no I don't care if half the city hates him.

Great, we just got rid of one of the people I can't stand the most in the NFL and now you want to bring in another. :cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

DT58HOF
12-30-2008, 08:51 PM
Shanahan will not be coming to KC. He had years left on his contract and will probably be an analyst for a year while he continues to collect his money. Gailey is an excellent OC; if he had more than kids to work with KC would have been a contender. Gailey will stay. Yes, we need a change on defense - either a coaching change or abandon the awful cover-two. As for Edwards, give him another year. His first year was clearly on Peterson's watch, year two was an attempt at putting a band-aid on a corpse. This third year required blowing the whole thing up and stating over. Give him another year with a new GM.

what does it matter if he had years left, the reports are he was fired not that he resigned, if he was fired he still gets his money and can go coach another team.

SAUTO
12-30-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow I think I'd prefer him to Cowher. God he'd have a hard on for Denver!!

Dont forget about his hard on for oakland also

SAUTO
12-30-2008, 08:54 PM
IMO it would be great to have ANY coach who will actually hate the rest of he division again

SAUTO
12-30-2008, 08:58 PM
If we're gonna draft a QB first I can't think of a head coach I'd rather have.

damn man i thought we would NEVER agree on anything, i've felt that if we were to draft a qb THIS regime would get him killed and we have no one to mentor a rookie qb. but the rat could probably pick the right guy and coach him up

Gravedigger
12-30-2008, 09:11 PM
I would admit that having the thought of Shannahan helping us beat the Broncos for the next years to come with Matthew Stafford at the helm and a great running game would be massively inticing. But it's Shannahan....

RINGLEADER
12-30-2008, 09:55 PM
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Micjones
12-31-2008, 04:54 AM
No, but Pat Bowlen can. CBS 4 in Denver is reporting that Pat wanted Slowek out, and Shanny refused.

Fair enough, but the bigger indictment is having had a Top 10 defense the four years prior to having made that decision.

He squandered a golden opportunity with a damn good defensive unit for 4 years.

kstater
12-31-2008, 05:14 AM
:clap:

It takes a n00b to inject some common sense here.

Yes or no. Do you think a Herman Edwards coached team can win the Super Bowl?