Who has the eye for talent?

[sfchief]

Based on the last five drafts minus last year(too early to tell) who has the best, STEELERS, RAVENS,COLTS,PATS?

STEELERS
2007 Lawrence Timmons LB starter
LaMarr Woodley DE starter
Matt Spaeth TE backup
William Gay DB backup
2006 Santonio Holmes WR starter
Willie Colon G starter
2005 Heath Miller TE starter
Bryant McFadden DB backup
Trai Essex T backup
Chris Kemoeatu G starter
2004 Ben Roethlisberger QB starter
Max Starks T backup
2003 Troy Polamalu DB starter
Ivan Taylor DB starter
7 starters 5 backups 2 all-pro

RAVENS
2007 Jared Gaither T starter
Ben Grubbs G starter
Yamon Figurs K/PR starter
Antwan Barnes LB backup
Le'Ron McClain RB starter
Troy Smith QB backup
2006 Haloti Ngata DT starter
Chris Chester C starter
2005 Mark Clayton WR starter
Adam Terry T starter
Jason Brown C starter
2004 none(ouch)
2003 Terrell Suggs DE starter
10 starters 2 backup 3 all pro

COLTS
2007 Anthony Gonzalez WR backup
Tony Ugoh T starter
Daymeion Hughes DB backup
Clint Session LB starter
Roy Hall WR backup
2006 Joseph Addai RB starter
Tim Jennings DB starter
Freddie Keiaho LB starter
Charlie Johnson T starter
Antoine Bethea DB starter
2005 Marlin Jackson DB starter(inj)
Kelvin Hayden DB starter(in place of Jackson)
2004 Bob Sanders DB starter
Jason David DB former starter(left as FA)
Jake Scott T former starter(left as FA)
Jim Sorgi QB backup
2003 Dallas Clark TE starter
Mike Doss DB former starter(left as FA)
Robert Mathis DE starter
Cato June LB starter
13 starters 4 backup 3all-pro

PATS
2007 Brandon Meriweather DB starter
2006 Laurence Maroney RB starter
Stephen Gostkowski K starter
2005 Logan Mankins G starter
Ellis Hobbs DB starter
Nick Kaczur G starter
James Sanders FS starter
Matt Cassel QB backup(will start for someone)
2004 Vince Wilfork DT starter
Ben Watson TE starter
2003 Ty Warren DE starter
Eugene Wilson FS former starter(left as FA)
Asante Samuel DB starter
Dan Koppen C starter
Tully Banta-Cain LB backup
12 starters 2backups 4all pro

I know I'm not taking into account the quality of players or when they were drafted, but it gives some idea draft success.

I would take the Colts draft
Polian is also my choice for GM
FLAME ON PLANET

[Reerun_KC]

Only Herm or Marty have that "keen eye" for talent... Everyone else is just pissing in the wind.. /Chiefsplanet

[kstater]

Only Herm or Marty have that "keen eye" for talent... Everyone else is just pissing in the wind.. /Chiefsplanet

Don't forget Cowher.

[88TG88]

Only Herm or Marty have that "keen eye" for talent... Everyone else is just pissing in the wind.. /Chiefsplanet

Marty for GM & teh H3rm for scout

[jiveturkey]

The amount of All Pro's is surprising since they've been picking at the end of each round most years.

[Reerun_KC]

Don't forget Cowher.

:doh!:
Your right! I will correct that...

[Reerun_KC]

Better update this for the correct information...

"Only Herm, Cowher or Marty have that "keen eye" for talent... Everyone else is just pissing in the wind.." /Chiefsplanet

[ArrowheadHawk]

Can we see the chiefs list in that same timeframe?

[sfchief]

2007
Dwayne Bowe WR starter
Turk McBride DT backup
'Tank' Tyler DT starter
Kolby Smith RB backup
Herbert Taylor T backup(starting RT?)
2006
Tamba Hali DE starter
Bernard Pollard DB starter
Brodie Croyle QB backup(broken)
Jeff Webb WR backup(turd)
Jarrad Page FS starter
2005
Derrick Johnson LB starter
Dustin Colquitt P starter

2004 Jared Allen DE starter

2003 Larry Johnson RB starter
Kawika Mitchell LB starter(left via FA)
8 starters 5 backup 1 broken 1 turd 1 all-pro2 if you count LJ

[Red Brooklyn]

I wouldn't say Polian is my only choice for GM. But I'm not gonna cry if we get him. He should definately be on the short list. I'd love to see him in KC.

[Calcountry]

Only Herm or Marty have that "keen eye" for talent... Everyone else is just pissing in the wind.. /ChiefsplanetIts kind of like that fashion show, Queer eye for a straight guy.

[KChiefs1]

Colts seem to get 4-5 new starters every year from the draft. I like that....

My vote is for Polian.

[FloridaMan88]

I'm very close to switching my endorsement from Pioli to Polian, with the condition that Mike Shanahan would be more likely to be hired by Polian than by Pioli.

[Mecca]

The Colts have more drafted starters in the same period than the Chiefs do while consistently picking lower and not gutting their entire team...

[Smed1065]

The Colts have more drafted starters in the same period than the Chiefs do while consistently picking lower and not gutting their entire team...

Any one but Chiefs Are good. (Long haired.)

[Mecca]

Any one but Chiefs Are good. (Long haired.)

Show me how my comment is incorrect.

It just shows the difference in a team that really does draft well and the perception that Herm is a good drafter.

[Smed1065]

The Colts have more drafted starters in the same period than the Chiefs do while consistently picking lower and not gutting their entire team...

WOW

Guess we won 2007. LOL

[BryanBusby]

Polian would be a good choice, but I don't see why he would leave Indy when he will have his fathers spot in a few years.

[crazycoffey]

I like how 9-10 of these posts in this thread are totally wasted space, shit slinging by the far left and far rights of CP lore. I almost don't even want to contribute to this thread.

I like the info posted in the OP, good information and really has a telling number on draft success over several years for the colts. How much of this is (percentage wise) on Polian's shoulders? Are we for sure going to get his team that has lead to this if we bring him in?

Also, Mecca - I partly agree with you. They have shown more success over a greater time, and that is something I definetly want for the chiefs too. but 07 wasn't too bad, and 08 may be too early to tell, but an educated guess may led to 08 being pretty close too. The shape we were in from DV, we needed 07 and 08, now lets get the consistancy, Polian or whoever....

[crazycoffey]

2007
Dwayne Bowe WR starter
Turk McBride DT backup
'Tank' Tyler DT starter
Kolby Smith RB backup
Herbert Taylor T backup(starting RT?)


Didn't Turk start at DE this year before he got hurt?

[RINGLEADER]

Didn't Turk start at DE this year before he got hurt?

2007
Dwayne Bowe WR (good) starter
'Tank' Tyler DT (bad) starter
Herbert Taylor T backup(starting RT?)

2006
Tamba Hali DE (bad) starter
Bernard Pollard DB (bad) starter
Jarrad Page FS (good) starter

2005
Derrick Johnson LB (good) starter
Dustin Colquitt P (good) starter

2004
Jared Allen DE (All-Pro) starter

2003
Larry Johnson RB (was All-Pro) starter
Kawika Mitchell LB (good) starter(left via FA)

5 valid starters, 2 All-Pro if you count LJ

7 players in 5 years. 2 of which are not gone.

5 valid starters in 5 years.

:shake:

[milkman]

I'm very close to switching my endorsement from Pioli to Polian, with the condition that Mike Shanahan would be more likely to be hired by Polian than by Pioli.

I hope your computer dies in a fire.

[RINGLEADER]

You forgot this guy too. Of course he's now making an impact for another team...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_605515.html

[blueballs]

I don't want someone who wants too much power
we just dumped THAT guy

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm very close to switching my endorsement from Pioli to Polian, with the condition that Mike Shanahan would be more likely to be hired by Polian than by Pioli.

For someone that puts a lot of stock into press conference comments, that's pretty funny, considering Shanahan said he wasn't interested in a project like Cleveland, Detroit, and KC.

[leviw]

http://www.ibj.com/html/detail_page.asp?content=14243


This guy.

[OnTheWarpath15]

http://www.ibj.com/html/detail_page.asp?content=14243


This guy.

DeCosta is my #1 pick, but I wouldn't be disappointed at all in Polian.

I just highly doubt he leaves the Colts, when he can hang on for a few more years and follow in his father's footsteps and carry on his legacy with the organization.

[leviw]

DeCosta is my #1 pick, but I wouldn't be disappointed at all in Polian.

I just highly doubt he leaves the Colts, when he can hang on for a few more years and follow in his father's footsteps and carry on his legacy with the organization.

Probably right. But if he's willing to try and create his own legacy in a different city, bring him in.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Probably right. But if he's willing to try and create his own legacy in a different city, bring him in.

The other issue that is going to get in the way:

The Colts are on a tear. If they continue, the earliest Polian could be interviewed is the week between the AFC Championship game and the SB.

I don't see Clark waiting that long, and just one more reason I'm rooting for Baltimore to lose early.

[leviw]

The other issue that is going to get in the way:

The Colts are on a tear. If they continue, the earliest Polian could be interviewed is the week between the AFC Championship game and the SB.

I don't see Clark waiting that long, and just one more reason I'm rooting for Baltimore to lose early.

If he does wait for the Colts season to end, he better be damn sure he can even get an interview with Polian.

[DTLB58]

For someone that puts a lot of stock into press conference comments, that's pretty funny, considering Shanahan said he wasn't interested in a project like Cleveland, Detroit, and KC.

I watched his entire PC that day. I never heard him say that.

It has however been reported by John Clayton that is what he thinks. But I never heard Shanny say that publicly.

[RustShack]

Wasn't Suggs a Savage pick? I think if he alined himself with a good HC he could be a good GM... or maybe we can just bring him in to be our VP of Player Personel.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Wasn't Suggs a Savage pick? I think if he alined himself with a good HC he could be a good GM... or maybe we can just bring him in to be our VP of Player Personel.

Savage and Herm...recipe for, chicken poop

[RustShack]

Savage and Herm...recipe for, chicken poop

Well I don't want anyone who would keep Herm. But I wouldn't be pissed if Savage was our GM, Billick as HC, and Nolan as DC... especially if they brought in a good OC or maybe even kept Gailey. I'm not saying they are my top options, but I really wouldn't mind that happening.

[crazycoffey]

5 valid starters, 2 All-Pro if you count LJ

7 players in 5 years. 2 of which are not gone.

5 valid starters in 5 years.

:shake:



why did you quote me? I was agreeing with the argument overall, we need more consistancy and whoever we bring in, I hope they can do that for us. I only pointed out that 07 and maybe 08 looks to be an improvement in this area of evaluation than that of previous years.

[RINGLEADER]

why did you quote me? I was agreeing with the argument overall, we need more consistancy and whoever we bring in, I hope they can do that for us. I only pointed out that 07 and maybe 08 looks to be an improvement in this area of evaluation than that of previous years.

I wasn't hating. Your note was much more concise and/or happened to be connected to the closed link I could find. I'm very lazy online.