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01-04-2009, 11:40 PM

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<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">As Clark Hunt debates prospective general managers, we should start pondering who Kansas City’s next head coach might be. Yes, Herm Edwards is still collecting paychecks over at Arrowhead Stadium, but with rumors flying that he won’t be retained in 2009, it’s safe to move on.
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Between New York’s Steve Spagnuolo, Tennessee’s Jim Schwartz, New England’s Josh McDaniels (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3540591), Dallas’ Jason Garrett (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1751267) and Baltimore’s Rex Ryan, there are plenty of young NFL coordinators with skins on the wall who will draw interest from teams with head coaching openings this offseason. But for my money (or Hunt’s as the case may be), the Chiefs could hit a home run by hiring an older ex-coordinator who also has some significant skins on the wall: Mike Shanahan.

Do you recoil in horror, Chiefs fans? Does the thought of Shanahan, a thorn in KC’s side for over a decade, pacing the sidelines at Arrowhead Stadium make you nauseous? Are you ready to call into 810 and whine about chop-blocking and jerseys covered in cooking spray?

Why?

If you can get past your division-rivalry bias, you might come to realize just exactly what I did when the Denver Broncos surprisingly axed their longtime head coach last week – Mike Shanahan is exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need. It couldn’t be a more perfect fit.

Ask yourself one question: What has been the most frustrating part of watching Chiefs games under Herm Edwards’ guidance the past three years? You can point to clock management, the endless torrent of field goals or wacky press-conference antics all you want, but nothing has been more frustrating than watching Larry Johnson dive headfirst into a sea of red and white rear ends in a vain effort to run the football.

Herm arrived in Kansas City and has essentially wasted three years of Johnson’s prime by refusing to invest in the appropriate offensive line talent. Had the Chiefs gone after the right free agents or drafted any linemen with a prayer of starting, we probably wouldn’t be talking about replacing Edwards right now.

It’s proven fact that when Edwards has a 1,000-yard rusher, his teams make the playoffs. When Herm has the benefit of a ground game, the rest of his approach to winning football games falls perfectly into place. We shouldn’t be surprised the Chiefs won six games the last two years, because the head coach couldn’t even lay the bedrock of his NFL philosophy.

When you’re blessed with an in-his-prime playmaker as Johnson was when Edwards arrived in Kansas City, you have to do everything to help that talent flourish. You don’t go out and sign Kyle Turley to replace Willie Roaf (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2475254), and you certainly don’t waste time with stiffs like Jordan Black (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3783426), Kevin Sampson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2394919), Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) or John Welbourn. Nor do you waste time on project fullbacks, especially when you just dumped Tony Richardson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3991509).

You do those things, and it’s not surprising when your 1,789-yard running back gets shut down in the playoffs against the Colts. You do those things, and it’s not surprising when his average dips to 3.5 yards per carry the following season. You do those things, and it’s not surprising when he carries seven times for two yards in a shutout loss in your third year.

It’s also not surprising when all that happens and your running back becomes as frustrated as the fan base, threatens team chemistry in the locker room, and gets into trouble off the field.

But we’re focusing way too much on the past, and not nearly enough on the future. The point is, with Shanahan coaching the Chiefs, the exact opposite happens. No team runs the football like a Mike Shanahan team.

Over the last 10 years, the Broncos ranked in the top 10 in rushing offense eight times. That’s significant because they did it without a consistent feature back. Olandis Gary (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1157362), Mike Anderson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2981643), Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3672485), Tatum Bell, Travis Henry, Selvin Young (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689975), take your pick. All experienced success in Shanahan’s zone-blocking, cutback scheme.

Furthermore, the way Shanahan built and reassembled Denver’s offensive line over the last 10+ years is almost unparalleled in any other franchise. The Broncos won Super Bowls and embarrassed Gunther Cunningham’s defenses with Gary Zimmerman, Mark Schlereth, Tom Nalen, Brian Habib and Tony Jones. Five years later Clinton Portis was embarrassing Greg Robinson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3814249)’s defenses behind Ephraim Salaam (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3661749), Ben Hamilton (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689940), Nalen, Dan Neil (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1153385) and Matt Lepsis (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2983738).

This season, Jay Cutler (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689930) embarrassed Cunningham and Edwards behind Ryan Clady (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3908936), Hamilton, Casey Wiegmann (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2980188) (Shanahan turns KC trash into Mile High treasure), Chris Kuper (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2983703) and Ryan Harris (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689941). The Broncos allowed the fewest sacks per pass this season despite the fact their defense often forced them to play catchup.

Do you understand what happens if Larry Johnson and Mike Shanahan combine forces? It’s quite possible Johnson’s twilight years could be some of his finest. Larry proved he can still play at a high level this season. No one is worried about his foot. With Shanahan, the Chiefs could actually get their money’s worth out of LJ's $45 million contract.

Yes, Larry wants out of Kansas City and Shanahan rid himself of Portis before he split into multiple personalities. It doesn’t matter. Johnson’s attitude does a 180 when he’s being used properly and flourishing in a successful offense. Shanahan will have to live with Larry’s anchor-like contract and probably realizes his running game was never quite as lethal without an elite talent like Portis.

Of course there’s more to Shanahan than just ridiculous success with running games. At his heart, as a former offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, Shanahan is a quarterback guru.

It’s probably not coincidence that Steve Young finally won a Super Bowl after he hooked up with Shanahan. The same can be said for John Elway, who curiously seemed to either go to the Super Bowl or simply win it when Shanahan was his quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator or head coach.

Do we really need to recount what Shanahan did for Jake Plummer, now an All-Pro handball player? The Snake never had it so good. Last but not least, recognize that Shanahan was smart enough to let the Titans and Cardinals waste picks on Vince Young (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3671252) and Matt Leinart (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3628891) three years ago before he pulled off a ridiculous trade to move up and take Cutler, who now compares himself to John Elway if the mood strikes.

When you put it all together, you get a coach who knows the running game like nobody’s business, clearly something the Chiefs desperately need. You also get a coach who can identify, select, develop and manage franchise quarterbacks at a high level, clearly something the Chiefs need.

Did I mention Shanahan has winning records against Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher and Jeff Fisher?

Now, it’s not all perfect. Obviously Shanahan can’t pick a defensive coordinator to save his life, and his personnel blunderings on defense are embarrassing. Shanahan was at least partially fired in Denver because he wanted to hold on to Bob Slowik as defensive coordinator, but his real undoing may have been his dual role as Broncos Head Coach and Executive Vice President of Football Operations. Shanahan had absolute power, and it absolutely destroyed Denver’s defense.

That may not be a problem in Kansas City. Per an NFL source, Shanahan has made it known through “third-party channels” that he’s interested in the Chiefs’ job but would not require total control of football operations as he did in Denver. Can you imagine the perfect pairing of Shanahan and a general manager who could pluck the right defensive talent from the draft, while assisting in the search for the right defensive coordinator?

Throw in an owner who doesn’t meddle, a hungry fanbase who may have developed a dislike for Shanahan but could surely learn to love him (just remember that Gunther Cunningham was once a Raider), and the youngest roster in the league, and you may begin to get delusions of grandeur.

So, are you still recoiling in horror from the thought of Shanahan wearing a red jacket, or are you beginning to see the possibilities?

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Ebolapox

01-04-2009, 11:49 PM

no, he doesn't. he wants to coach for a contender. the cowboys are more likely to make sense for shanny than the chiefs would.

Ebolapox

01-04-2009, 11:50 PM

don't get me wrong. I'd love for shanahan to stick it in the broncos' asses every year twice a year. but he isn't coming here.

RealSNR

01-04-2009, 11:52 PM

Larry's done. Stick a fork in him.

Frazod

01-04-2009, 11:53 PM

The Rat and anybody who wants him here can go die in the same fire. :#

Mr. Flopnuts

01-04-2009, 11:58 PM

God I hope so. I hope you guys know what you're talking about with him being interested in the job without having the GM hat on at the same time. That would be fucking perfect.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-04-2009, 11:59 PM

The Rat and anybody who wants him here can go die in the same fire. :#

God I hope so. I hope you guys know what you're talking about with him being interested in the job without having the GM hat on at the same time. That would be fucking perfect.

Well, bye.

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RedThat

01-04-2009, 11:59 PM

That was a good article.

I still think Shanahan can coach in this league. I think he'd be a great hire if you want to fix the offense. defense not so sure. Hes had his struggles there. In fact, I think he be an ideal coach for a quarterback like Tyler Thigpen? Yes we do need that.

As far as LJ goes, i think its too late for him. Hes pretty much 30. RBs usually go downhill after 30. I don't see LJ as the right fit for shanahans style of offense. I don't see LJ as that elusive cutback runner that were used to seeing from the RB's in Shanahan offense. but guys like Jamaal Charles or Kolby Smith I could see doing well?

triple

01-05-2009, 12:00 AM

troll

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:01 AM

I don't see LJ as the right fit for shanahans style of offense. I don't see LJ as that elusive cutback runner that were used to seeing from the RB's in Shanahan offense. but guys like Jamaal Charles or Kolby Smith I could see doing well?

The scheme we ran this year isn't dissimilar to Shanny's running scheme.

RedThat

01-05-2009, 12:01 AM

http://kan.scout.com/2/827395.html

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">As Clark Hunt debates prospective general managers, we should start pondering who Kansas City’s next head coach might be. Yes, Herm Edwards is still collecting paychecks over at Arrowhead Stadium, but with rumors flying that he won’t be retained in 2009, it’s safe to move on.
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Between New York’s Steve Spagnuolo, Tennessee’s Jim Schwartz, New England’s Josh McDaniels (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3540591), Dallas’ Jason Garrett (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1751267) and Baltimore’s Rex Ryan, there are plenty of young NFL coordinators with skins on the wall who will draw interest from teams with head coaching openings this offseason. But for my money (or Hunt’s as the case may be), the Chiefs could hit a home run by hiring an older ex-coordinator who also has some significant skins on the wall: Mike Shanahan.

Do you recoil in horror, Chiefs fans? Does the thought of Shanahan, a thorn in KC’s side for over a decade, pacing the sidelines at Arrowhead Stadium make you nauseous? Are you ready to call into 810 and whine about chop-blocking and jerseys covered in cooking spray?

Why?

If you can get past your division-rivalry bias, you might come to realize just exactly what I did when the Denver Broncos surprisingly axed their longtime head coach last week – Mike Shanahan is exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need. It couldn’t be a more perfect fit.

Ask yourself one question: What has been the most frustrating part of watching Chiefs games under Herm Edwards’ guidance the past three years? You can point to clock management, the endless torrent of field goals or wacky press-conference antics all you want, but nothing has been more frustrating than watching Larry Johnson dive headfirst into a sea of red and white rear ends in a vain effort to run the football.

Herm arrived in Kansas City and has essentially wasted three years of Johnson’s prime by refusing to invest in the appropriate offensive line talent. Had the Chiefs gone after the right free agents or drafted any linemen with a prayer of starting, we probably wouldn’t be talking about replacing Edwards right now.

It’s proven fact that when Edwards has a 1,000-yard rusher, his teams make the playoffs. When Herm has the benefit of a ground game, the rest of his approach to winning football games falls perfectly into place. We shouldn’t be surprised the Chiefs won six games the last two years, because the head coach couldn’t even lay the bedrock of his NFL philosophy.

When you’re blessed with an in-his-prime playmaker as Johnson was when Edwards arrived in Kansas City, you have to do everything to help that talent flourish. You don’t go out and sign Kyle Turley to replace Willie Roaf (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2475254), and you certainly don’t waste time with stiffs like Jordan Black (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3783426), Kevin Sampson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2394919), Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) or John Welbourn. Nor do you waste time on project fullbacks, especially when you just dumped Tony Richardson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3991509).

You do those things, and it’s not surprising when your 1,789-yard running back gets shut down in the playoffs against the Colts. You do those things, and it’s not surprising when his average dips to 3.5 yards per carry the following season. You do those things, and it’s not surprising when he carries seven times for two yards in a shutout loss in your third year.

It’s also not surprising when all that happens and your running back becomes as frustrated as the fan base, threatens team chemistry in the locker room, and gets into trouble off the field.

But we’re focusing way too much on the past, and not nearly enough on the future. The point is, with Shanahan coaching the Chiefs, the exact opposite happens. No team runs the football like a Mike Shanahan team.

Over the last 10 years, the Broncos ranked in the top 10 in rushing offense eight times. That’s significant because they did it without a consistent feature back. Olandis Gary (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1157362), Mike Anderson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2981643), Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3672485), Tatum Bell, Travis Henry, Selvin Young (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689975), take your pick. All experienced success in Shanahan’s zone-blocking, cutback scheme.

Furthermore, the way Shanahan built and reassembled Denver’s offensive line over the last 10+ years is almost unparalleled in any other franchise. The Broncos won Super Bowls and embarrassed Gunther Cunningham’s defenses with Gary Zimmerman, Mark Schlereth, Tom Nalen, Brian Habib and Tony Jones. Five years later Clinton Portis was embarrassing Greg Robinson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3814249)’s defenses behind Ephraim Salaam (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3661749), Ben Hamilton (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689940), Nalen, Dan Neil (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1153385) and Matt Lepsis (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2983738).

The last two seasons, Jay Cutler (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689930) embarrassed Cunningham and Edwards behind Ryan Clady (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3908936), Hamilton, Casey Wiegmann (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2980188) (Shanahan turns KC trash into Mile High treasure), Chris Kuper (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2983703) and Ryan Harris (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3689941). The Broncos allowed the fewest sacks per pass this season despite the fact their defense often forced them to play catchup.

Do you understand what happens if Larry Johnson and Mike Shanahan combine forces? It’s quite possible Johnson’s twilight years could be some of his finest. Larry proved he can still play at a high level this season. No one is worried about his foot. With Shanahan, the Chiefs could actually get their money’s worth out of LJ's $45 million contract.

Yes, Larry wants out of Kansas City and Shanahan rid himself of Portis before he split into multiple personalities. It doesn’t matter. Johnson’s attitude does a 180 when he’s being used properly and flourishing in a successful offense. Shanahan will have to live with Larry’s anchor-like contract and probably realizes his running game was never quite as lethal without an elite talent like Portis.

Of course there’s more to Shanahan than just ridiculous success with running games. At his heart, as a former offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, Shanahan is a quarterback guru.

It’s probably not coincidence that Steve Young finally won a Super Bowl after he hooked up with Shanahan. The same can be said for John Elway, who curiously seemed to either go to the Super Bowl or simply win it when Shanahan was his quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator or head coach.

Do we really need to recount what Shanahan did for Jake Plummer, now an All-Pro handball player? The Snake never had it so good. Last but not least, recognize that Shanahan was smart enough to let the Titans and Cardinals waste picks on Vince Young (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3671252) and Matt Leinart (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3628891) three years ago before he pulled off a ridiculous trade to move up and take Cutler, who now compares himself to John Elway if the mood strikes.

When you put it all together, you get a coach who knows the running game like nobody’s business, clearly something the Chiefs desperately need. You also get a coach who can identify, select, develop and manage franchise quarterbacks at a high level, clearly something the Chiefs need.

Did I mention Shanahan has winning records against Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher and Jeff Fisher?

Now, it’s not all perfect. Obviously Shanahan can’t pick a defensive coordinator to save his life, and his personnel blunderings on defense are embarrassing. Shanahan was at least partially fired in Denver because he wanted to hold on to Bob Slowik as defensive coordinator, but his real undoing may have been his dual role as Broncos Head Coach and Executive Vice President of Football Operations. Shanahan had absolute power, and it absolutely destroyed Denver’s defense.

That may not be a problem in Kansas City. Per an NFL source, Shanahan has made it known through “third-party channels” that he’s interested in the Chiefs’ job but would not require total control of football operations as he did in Denver. Can you imagine the perfect pairing of Shanahan and a general manager who could pluck the right defensive talent from the draft, while assisting in the search for the right defensive coordinator?

Throw in an owner who doesn’t meddle, a hungry fanbase who may have developed a dislike for Shanahan but could surely learn to love him (just remember that Gunther Cunningham was once a Raider), and the youngest roster in the league, and you may begin to get delusions of grandeur.

So, are you still recoiling in horror from the thought of Shanahan wearing a red jacket, or are you beginning to see the possibilities?

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Just thought I'd highlight this part. that would be ideal and good for us.

ArrowheadHawk

01-05-2009, 12:02 AM

The Rat and anybody who wants him here can go die in the same fire. :#

:eek:

Reerun_KC

01-05-2009, 12:02 AM

This Thread is The Gheyest!

F NO to Shanarat... IF he wants to stick it to somebody, he can go to Oakland and make out with this grandpa...

OnTheWarpath15

01-05-2009, 12:04 AM

Could have saved yourself a lot of work by listening to what Shanahan has had to say the past few days.

He is not interested in a rebuilding project.

My way: Eight words.

Your way: 1300+ words, and a complete pipe dream.

Frazod

01-05-2009, 12:05 AM

Well, bye.

http://www.theboxset.com/images/reviewcaptures/612capture_tombstone03.jpg

LMAO

I really should make that my avatar.

Direckshun

01-05-2009, 12:05 AM

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:07 AM

Truth be told, I love the article because I love outside-the-box thinking, and Shanahan and the Chiefs may yet be a good fit. But it doesn't make sense to bring in somebody to run the team because the running back is selfish.

Larry destroying people again is just a bonus. I'm not trying to build a coaching staff around Larry. I don't think he's going anywhere, though.

I think Charles could do some great things, too. Hell, any RB we bring in for that matter. Dantrell fucking Savage could probably bust off 1K in Shanny's system.

Direckshun

01-05-2009, 12:10 AM

Well keep up the good work. I love these kinds of ideas.

I personally believe Shanahan's lost his burst. It feels like a Vermeil hire.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-05-2009, 12:11 AM

Well keep up the good work. I love these kinds of ideas.

I personally believe Shanahan's lost his burst. It feels like a Vermeil hire.

Maybe he'll do what Holmgren did in Seattle. Take the next team he coaches as a non GM to the Super Bowl.

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:13 AM

I think Shanahan could do some AMAZING things with Tony Gonzalez.

Hell he might be able to get a decent season out of Thigpen by Plummering him up.

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:13 AM

With all due respect, Shanahan is "not" a good GM that is what got him fired. Keeping a close eye on the enemy out here since '88' I have seen it all with this organization. The "umpteenmillion D coordinators" Shanny went through were his 'fall guys' to blame and his last 'fall guy' was Sundquist the "figure head psuedo" GM he fired at the beginning of the summer. I can almost assure you that Bowlen still wanted Shanny as his coach but told Mike he needs help making better "draft choices" and bringing people in who are not "yes people" who truly know how to build defenses. Mike didn't want that and now Mike is gone.

If we want the same issues Denver has dealt with these past 10yrs then bring in Shanny. Shanny is the best strategical preparer and playcaller for offenses "hands down" I agree. Yes it will be far more entertaining on the offensive side of the ball getting an average of 8-10wins a year. But there is the flipside of not getting to the playoffs because of consistent "poor drafts" which result in "bad defenses" regardless of what coordinators you have in there if we let "one person" call all the shots.

I really believe we have suffered the same scenario these past 10yrs(post Marty) as well just from the "GM side" of things. Do we really think that Dick didn't realize that we needed better D players in here so that our 2003-2004 runs could have resulted in potential SBs if we would have just had "mediocre D"s? Of course he knew, but I believe Carl chose not to improve our D side of the ball by either drafting bad or signing FAs on the cheap which cost us SBs IMO.

I don't want the "single entity" calling all the shots either in GM or head coach EVER!!

okcchief

01-05-2009, 12:14 AM

I don't think Shannahan would consider coaching the Chiefs. If he would I think it could be a good fit. He is a good coach and he would be out to stick it up the Donkey's and Raider's asses. In fact, he may resent the two franchises more than this entire board combined right now.

No way in hell it happens though.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-05-2009, 12:16 AM

I think Shanahan could do some AMAZING things with Tony Gonzalez.

Hell he might be able to get a decent season out of Thigpen by Plummering him up.

Please, please tell me you're using that avatar over at the minge Bob. Please.

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:16 AM

Please, please tell me you're using that avatar over at the minge Bob. Please.

Nah I'm not allowed an avatar over there.

Some Maners are more equal than others.

RedThat

01-05-2009, 12:18 AM

Remember everybody around here saying for years that you shouldn't build around running backs?

Now you want to build entire coaching staffs around him?

Truth be told, I love the article because I love outside-the-box thinking, and Shanahan and the Chiefs may yet be a good fit. But it doesn't make sense to bring in somebody to run the team because the running back is selfish.

Thats where they could just get rid of LJ and you'll even see guys like Charles and K. Smith succeed if Shanahan were to be the head coach.

I agree with you and I think its a good fit for 3 reasons:

1. you have a young quarterback who could use a QBs coach and Shanahan is good with QB's

2. you have RB's on this roster right now that have excellent speed and are potentially good cutback runners.

3. shanahan knows how to take advantage of average Olineman and utilize them well enough to play to their strengths given right scheme.

*these 3 factors should give him enough consideration to be worth at LEAST interviewing, brought in for a look or even hired?

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:19 AM

no, he doesn't. he wants to coach for a contender. the cowboys are more likely to make sense for shanny than the chiefs would.

Precisely! He will make Wade look bad 2wice now:clap:

kcpasco

01-05-2009, 12:19 AM

But But But Shannahan can't win at Arrowhead

Everyone knows this

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:19 AM

Ebolapox

01-05-2009, 12:20 AM

But But But Shannahan can't win at Arrowhead

Everyone knows this

that's ok... we've gotten used to losing at home these days :shake:

Nightfyre

01-05-2009, 12:21 AM

Thats where they could just get rid of LJ and you'll even see guys like Charles and K. Smith succeed if Shanahan were to be the head coach.

I agree with you and I think its a good fit for 3 reasons:

1. you have a young quarterback who could use a QBs coach and Shanahan is good with QB's

2. you have RB's on this roster right now that have excellent speed and are potentially good cutback runners.

3. shanahan knows how to take advantage of average Olineman and utilize them well enough to play to their strengths given right scheme.

*these 3 factors should give him enough consideration to be worth at LEAST interviewing, brought in for a look or even hired (as an offensive coordinator?)
FYP

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:21 AM

Precisely! He will make Wade look bad 2wice now:clap:

Jesus

Shanahan + Wade Philips

=

CHAMPIONSHIP

RedThat

01-05-2009, 12:21 AM

that's ok... we've gotten used to losing at home these days :shake:

thats all herms fault

Ebolapox

01-05-2009, 12:22 AM

Shanny would need to get a buzzcut and an earring if he were our coach. He'd need to rebel a little from his Denver look. Punk Shanny, greasin' up Albert and chop-blockin' Shawne "roidman" Merriman. Bootleginn' Thiggaz out on the edge. Push off that CB, Bowe, the refs won't see.

Uh uh.

What?

I'm Punk Shanny and I'm here to say
Gonna pay back Bowlen
Cus I'm the rat-hey

Gonna grease up Albert
And chop-block some fooz

Gonna bootleg Thiggaz
And Larry's gonna rollz

Look out Davis
Here I come
Now my running back
Packs a heated gun

What? What?

Arrowhead FO LIFE

Peace out.

Got a plate waitin' fo me at Gates.

KC-style.

YO.

Mr. Wendler, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Reerun_KC

01-05-2009, 12:24 AM

Shanahan can die in a fire... Fucking cheating bastard!

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:24 AM

It remains to be seen if Shanny changes his tune in allowing a true GM to be over him but I doubt it with 2B2BSBs behind his name. He will con some owner into having all the shot calling power. But give Shanny credit, he milked those SB's for all they were worth holding on to the power for as long as he did.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-05-2009, 12:25 AM

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

nmshooter

01-05-2009, 12:26 AM

I'm a Bronco fan living in Kansas City. I cheer for the Chiefs but only when they aren't playing the Broncos. If Shanahan came to Kansas City, I would be an instant Chiefs first fan. Sounds like I'm jumping ship? Perhaps. I love my Broncos but firing Shanahan was kind of a slap in the face and quite possibly a wake up call. I always expected things to turn around in Denver but I didnt expect this and it pissed me off.

I liked the Chiefs under Marty, even though I didnt live here then. I liked the Chiefs under Vermeil. When Herm took over, that ended that. I knew he would put the anti-midas touch on the Chiefs, as he has everywhere else.

Shanahan comes here. Im an instant supporter again. Might even be able to actually go to a game without fear of being killed for cheering on the Broncos, but this way, I could go to any game and cheer for the chiefs..lol

How cool would that be to have Shanahan coaching my 2nd favorite TE in the business even if its only for 1 more year? Shannon Sharpe is my #1 favorite and Shanny would have coached both of them.........sweeeeeeet.

Anyway, would be cool if it happened. At least get rid of Herm and things would be looking much sweeter.

Good luck in the new year guys.

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:26 AM

Shanahan can die in a fire... Fucking cheating bastard!

This franchise needs a little foul play. Herm is a choir boy. That shit don't fly. We need some spygate up in this bitch. Bring me some under-the-table salary-cap book cookin. PUNK SHANNY IN 09! SPIKED COLLAR COACHING!

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:27 AM

Jesus

Shanahan + Wade Philips

=

CHAMPIONSHIP

No way Wade takes a demotion to DC. Think about it !!

Ebolapox

01-05-2009, 12:27 AM

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:28 AM

No way Wade takes a demotion to DC. Think about it !!

He took one before Dallas.

kcpasco

01-05-2009, 12:28 AM

I'm a Bronco fan living in Kansas City.

Thats where I stopped reading

Reerun_KC

01-05-2009, 12:28 AM

This franchise needs a little foul play. Herm is a choir boy. That shit don't fly. We need some spygate up in this bitch. Bring me some under-the-table salary-cap book cookin. PUNK SHANNY IN 09! SPIKED COLLAR COACHING!

Then you can die in a fire with him....

You go to hell and you die, Claythan!

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:29 AM

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:31 AM

Is it legal to wear leather pants on the sidelines?

Shanny needs some dope-ass combat boots. He can secure his laminated gameplan to his belt with a chain.

Larry would respect that.

Ebolapox

01-05-2009, 12:31 AM

Is it legal to wear leather pants on the sidelines?

Shanny needs some dope-ass combat boots. He can secure his laminated gameplan to his belt with a chain.

Larry would respect that.

jesus fucking christ, could you BE any more gay?

SPATCH

01-05-2009, 12:32 AM

Mr. Wendler, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

billy madison rep ROFL

Chiefshrink

01-05-2009, 12:33 AM

He took one before Dallas.
Big difference between Big D and San Diego in status. Wade like Norv is "peter principaled out" They are not head coaches,period. Great coordinators but not head coaches. And Wade after coaching Big D will not ever be a coordinator again. Count on it!!

Hammock Parties

01-05-2009, 12:35 AM

jesus fucking christ, could you BE any more gay?

What's gay is Herm's cashmere sweater vests and collars buttoned up to his adam's apple.

Enough of that picket-fence coaching.

Shanny's gonna snort coke in his office all night while he comes up with stylin' bootlegs and wicked cutback runs. Then he's gonna crank Juno Reactor over the Arrowhead PA and bust out his scripted plays.

Our new TD song:

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|Zach|

01-05-2009, 12:43 AM

Terrible.

J Diddy

01-05-2009, 12:47 AM

What's your next article?

"Why Gun makes sense in 09 as chiefs head coach"

kysirsoze

01-05-2009, 01:12 AM

Crush

01-05-2009, 01:13 AM

The team needs to focus on the GM and then go from there.

Dylan

01-05-2009, 01:44 AM

My biggest concern is Shanahan won only one divisional title since John Elway retired. Denver went to the playoffs four times out of six. Since the divisional title in 2004, the Broncos have barely gone .500 in an underperforming division.

Honestly, this year wasn't the first time the Broncos collasped, when all they needed to do was beat S.F. at Denver to get to the playoffs. You might disagree and I respect that, but what has Denver accomplished in the last ten years since Elway left?

I'm not arguing your overall point, but Herm Edwards has as many playoff appearances and titles as Shanahan.

My opinion of Shanahan can also be wrong.

mikey23545

01-05-2009, 03:41 AM

Is this the same Shanarat that got blown out by a 2-14 Chiefs team this year, and had to rally from behind to beat them in Denver? The coach who hasn't done jack shit since Horseface retired? The coach who hasn't had a defense for years?

All the genius posters on this BB mock what they call "true fans" for being satisfied with 9-7 seasons, and you want to hire a coach who has done nothing but that for the last 10 years?

Please go die in a fire before you have sex for the first time and possibly procreate...

cdcox

01-05-2009, 03:48 AM

Shanahan makes sense for chiefs like an earthquake makes sense for a flood victim.

FloridaMan88

01-05-2009, 04:35 AM

What's your next article?

"Why Gun makes sense in 09 as chiefs head coach"

I would actually support Shanahan being the head coach in the KC (although I don't see it happening)... but there would be a decent chance he'd keep Goonther around in some capacity IMO.

J Diddy

01-05-2009, 04:41 AM

I would actually support Shanahan being the head coach in the KC (although I don't see it happening)... but there would be a decent chance he'd keep Goonther around in some capacity IMO.
not at all

he interviewed gun to pick his brain only

Danman

01-05-2009, 05:16 AM

This article written only to try and incite the chiefs faithful. It makes little sense. I don't want Shanny because I think his best days of coaching are behind him. He's never met a defensive coordinator he couldn't fire. Hope he does take over in Dallas. He and Jerry Jones would be a fun soap opera and we could watch them get blown out in the playoffs every year.

J Diddy

01-05-2009, 05:25 AM

the Talking Can

01-05-2009, 06:08 AM

ass cancer

Skip Towne

01-05-2009, 06:10 AM

The Rat is too white. LJ could never play for him.

nmshooter

01-05-2009, 06:56 AM

Thats where I stopped reading
Oddly enough, I know more Bronco Fans here than I do Chiefs fans. When I moved here, I was pleasantly surprised. :)

Ultra Peanut

01-05-2009, 07:20 AM

He's a better candidate than a lots of other, so whatevs.

King_Chief_Fan

01-05-2009, 07:42 AM

MahiMike

01-05-2009, 07:59 AM

Well guys, riddle me this? As much as we hated Elway, didn't we respect him more? How many of you can actually say you would have been against him coming to KC? A coach of this magnitude doesn't come along but once a decade. Shanahan is the equivalent of the can't-miss high-priced free agent. Other guys (read coordinators) are like drafting a rookie. It's 50/50 if they'll be successful. Clark Hunt needs to open the coffers for Shanahan. Any other candidate and I say let the new GM pick the HC. In Shanahan's case, I say bring him in now and then get the GM. What do we have to lose? We won 2 friggin games this year.

Alton deFlat

01-05-2009, 08:12 AM

Shanahan's headed to Indy.

Brock

01-05-2009, 08:18 AM

die fuckstick

Extra Point

01-05-2009, 08:25 AM

Nice article, Claythan. But I don't see it happening. It wouldn't faze me if he got hired here, so long as get two more D-linemen and two or O-linemen and respective coaches. That mentioned, it's too much of an overhaul to interest Shanahan.

Skip Towne

01-05-2009, 08:27 AM

I might go for it if he would wear a mullet wig and a pair of those glasses with the big nose.

Lzen

01-05-2009, 08:50 AM

The Rat and anybody who wants him here can go die in the same fire. :#

Never thought I would say this but, I completely agree with frazod. :grr:

crazycoffey

01-05-2009, 10:57 AM

sorry C.E. - but I hope your fingers get cut off in some freak accident, so that you may no longer post something so heinous. This is actually worse than the carl goes to miami and wins a SB thread.....

petegz28

01-05-2009, 10:58 AM

Go ...away......fat man!

BigChiefFan

01-05-2009, 11:06 AM

Great offensive mind, but I think he'd want too much control and given his recent track record with defensive draftees, no thanks.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 11:06 AM

I personally believe Shanahan's lost his burst. It feels like a Vermeil hire.

This.

So, are you still recoiling in horror from the thought of Shanahan wearing a red jacket, or are you beginning to see the possibilities?

The former.

beach tribe

01-05-2009, 11:20 AM

Why would we want a tired retread, who hasn't won shit since horseface retired?

blueballs

01-05-2009, 11:23 AM

Whitlock did this shit to try and sell papers
not sure what WPIs goal is

vailpass

01-05-2009, 11:24 AM

Why would we want a tired retread, who hasn't won shit since horseface retired?

Why would Shanny want to coach a hapless team with no QB,WR, OL, or RB that hasn't sniffed a SB in 40 years; a team that is now worse than the AZ Cardinals?:evil:

Seriously though, I don't want Shanny anywhere near the AFC West. The guy is like Phil Jackson: give him talent to coach and he can win rings.
If he can stand JerryJones Shanny will be a Cowboy next year.

KC Dan

01-05-2009, 11:27 AM

Seriously though, I don't want Shanny anywhere near the AFC West. The guy is like Phil Jackson: give him JOHN ELWAY to coach and he can win rings.
If he can stand JerryJones Shanny will be a Cowboy next year.
FYP

Stryker

01-05-2009, 11:33 AM

Shanahan Makes NO Sense For Chiefs

FYT

:ZZZ:

Regarding your article => %(/

vailpass

01-05-2009, 11:36 AM

FYP

He took a team with Jake Plumber as the QB to the AFC Championship game. Thats like riding a sheep in the Kentucky Derby and coming in second.

The guy can scheme up offenses. If he gets a team that has a defense he will get back to the SB.

blueballs

01-05-2009, 11:42 AM

He took a team with Jake Plumber as the QB to the AFC Championship game. Thats like riding a sheep in the Kentucky Derby and coming in second.

The guy can scheme up offenses. If he gets a team that has a defense he will get back to the SB.

The fact he signed
$Jake Plummer$ in the first place
kind of knocks the shine off

vailpass

01-05-2009, 11:49 AM

The fact he signed
$Jake Plummer$ in the first place
kind of knocks the shine off

I know where you are coming from. Still, if you look at Plummer's won-loss record it is around 3rd or 4th best in the NFL during his time as a Bronco.

Shanny is always trying to win and not afraid to make changes. I liked that in him.

DT58HOF

01-05-2009, 12:13 PM

The fact he signed
$Jake Plummer$ in the first place
kind of knocks the shine off

A Good Coach can coach what he has and win doing it!
Shanahan is PERFECT for The Chiefs
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Color Red

01-05-2009, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE]With Shanahan, the Chiefs could actually get their money’s worth out of LJ's $45 million contract. /QUOTE]

Most provocative statement of the article. I know the rest of the idea sounds ridiculous but Shanny really is a great one, and remember job one of coming to competitiveness: competing in your division. Just ask the Bolts. They didn't compete anywhere this season but in the AFC West and that was enough. The Rat may be able to write a good immediate future for the Chiefs in the AFC West.

I fear LJ has already written his ticket out of KC by now, but he would absolutely salivate for the run schemes that Shanahan has devised.

Bolen is going to learn the same thing about coaches that I thought he had learned about quarterbacks since Elway: great ones are few and far between. Here is a prediction to gnaw on: Shanahan will get another team to the playoffs before the Broncos return to them.

blueballs

01-05-2009, 12:17 PM

A Good Coach can coach what he has and win doing it!
Shanahan is PERFECT for The Chiefs
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The CHief need a QB
Elway came with the job
Griese - Plummer didn't

DT58HOF

01-05-2009, 12:22 PM

Draft a young QB, and sign a veteran to run the show for a year or so
Warner,Garcia,Kerry Collins
unless Mcnabb is available then we take him.

suds79

01-05-2009, 12:24 PM

Why would we want a tired retread, who hasn't won shit since horseface retired?

This is the lamest knock on the guy out there.

What coach has won a SB without a star players? Specifically QB.

Tom Coughlin - Eli Manning (1st overall pick)
Bill Cowher - Ben Rothlisberger (1st round pick)
Tony Dungy - Peyton Manning
Bill Belichick - Tom Brady (Note: no Tom, no playoffs)

So I guess props to Brian Billick with Dilfer.

... At least Shanahan knows you have to have that QB to win it an actively goes to to try to find that guy.

King_Chief_Fan

01-05-2009, 12:31 PM

He took a team with Jake Plumber as the QB to the AFC Championship game. Thats like riding a sheep in the Kentucky Derby and coming in second.

The guy can scheme up offenses. If he gets a team that has a defense he will get back to the SB.

what is it with Donkey fans bringing up riding sheep?:D

blueballs

01-05-2009, 12:32 PM

Draft a young QB, and sign a veteran to run the show for a year or so
Warner,Garcia,Kerry Collins
unless Mcnabb is available then we take him.

Don't agree with this
how about the Defense
what's the Rat's record with bottom of the barrel Ds

blueballs

01-05-2009, 12:34 PM

Anymore Brown FAs available

suds79

01-05-2009, 12:34 PM

what's the Rat's record with bottom of the barrel Ds

Agreed. Which is why he couldn't have the control over player personell like he did before.

Then the only trick would be hiring a good DC which isn't exactly his strong suit either.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:38 PM

Thank God this is all a bunch of bullshit that has a snowball's chance in hell of happening.

Yep, just talking to talk; that's all this shit is.

unothadeal

01-05-2009, 12:45 PM

Yep, just talking for post count; that's all I do.

FYP

vailpass

01-05-2009, 12:46 PM

what is it with Donkey fans bringing up riding sheep?:D

ROFL:doh!:

Donger

01-05-2009, 12:47 PM

I heard that Shanahan is considering taking a year off to learn about computers. And text messaging.

blueballs

01-05-2009, 12:49 PM

Anybody else see Peyton Manning in Claythan's avatar
(could be the HUGE head)
that's where the rat will go - Dungy will retire IMO

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:54 PM

FYP

Yep,

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:54 PM

Yep,

Shannarat,

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:55 PM

Shannarat,

Equals,

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:55 PM

Equals,

Never Happening,

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:55 PM

Never Happening,

In Kansas City.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:55 PM

In Kansas City.

Just

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:56 PM

Just

As God

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-05-2009, 12:56 PM

As God

Intended, you fuck stick.

unothadeal

01-05-2009, 12:58 PM

I didn't post any you tube thinks on this page, you annoying ****ing cocksmoker; why don't you tend to your OWN ****ing business and get off my ass before I get you off my ass.

LMAO

TEX

01-05-2009, 01:05 PM

Anybody else see Peyton Manning in Claythan's avatar
(could be the HUGE head)
that's where the rat will go - Dungy will retire IMO

They already have their next HC signed in case Dungy leaves...

FringeNC

01-05-2009, 01:08 PM

Shanahan is one of the top coaches in the game, but he'd probably demand to be GM, also. And he's not a very good GM.

Hammock Parties

01-21-2009, 11:24 PM

Hey guys, Shanahan still makes sense for the Chiefs.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-21-2009, 11:27 PM

Hey guys, Shanahan still makes sense for the Chiefs.

Fuck yeah he does.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-21-2009, 11:28 PM

I will pop a fucking boner for longer than 4 hours if the rat comes to Kansas City.

Hammock Parties

01-21-2009, 11:29 PM

I will pop a fucking boner for longer than 4 hours if the rat comes to Kansas City.

Bitch I'm seeking immediate medical attention NOW!

ChiefMojo

01-21-2009, 11:33 PM

I've thought from the moment Shanahan was fired from Denver that he was the perfect fit for Kansas City. You go down the list, he made the most sense. Now it looks like it could very well become reality!

Chief77

01-21-2009, 11:44 PM

The looks on the Donks fans faces as Pioli and the Rat stomp their asses the next 5 years will be priceless! Still this seems too surreal to be happening.

RealSNR

01-21-2009, 11:46 PM

I will pop a ****ing boner for longer than 4 hours if the rat comes to Kansas City.I would try masturbating

DeezNutz

01-21-2009, 11:47 PM

I would try masturbating

ROFL

Mr. Flopnuts

01-21-2009, 11:56 PM

I would try masturbating

ROFL

When Deeznutz laughs at this joke, it's a stress free, relieved laugh.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 07:23 AM

I will pop a fucking boner for longer than 4 hours if the rat comes to Kansas City.

Bitch I'm seeking immediate medical attention NOW!

That immediate loss of blood would most definitely explain the colossal Brain-Fart you two must be experiencing in wanting ol' dead horse, Rat Face McCheese-Eater as the HC for the franchise.

EyePod

01-22-2009, 07:48 AM

The fact he signed
$Jake Plummer$ in the first place
kind of knocks the shine off

That was before Jake Plummer was bad. When he was the single hope of Arizona..... not the amazing fucking handball player that he is now...

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2007/1018/20071018__20071019_E1_SP19FBNPLUMMER%7Ep1_200.JPG

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7220039

EyePod

01-22-2009, 07:50 AM

And this would definitely show that there is no loyalty whatsoever in sports anymore. I hate it. Smoltz isn't a Brave and Shanarat might fucking be a Chief. What has this world of sports fucking come to? (I'm not saying he isn't a bad coach, I'm just saying it's hard to not hate someone that you've been hating so long.... I think we'll need a group therapy session if this happens.... we'll all be so confused....)

JOhn

01-22-2009, 07:55 AM

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 08:45 AM

That was before Jake Plummer was bad. When he was the single hope of Arizona..... not the amazing fucking handball player that he is now...

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2007/1018/20071018__20071019_E1_SP19FBNPLUMMER%7Ep1_200.JPG

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7220039

He looks like Lars "The Whiny One" Ulrich.

Bwana

01-22-2009, 08:47 AM

:cuss::grr::shake::banghead::deevee:4321:$2500::bang:Shanarat

If we end up with the Rat, I have got to figure out a justification to all the damn Donkie fans around here. I have spent the past 10+ years telling them what an evil cheating B*STARD he is.

If that happens, you won't have to say much because most of them will be jumping off a cliff. Everyone of them I know around here, is pissed off to know end that he got the boot.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 08:49 AM

If that happens, you won't have to say much because most of them will be jumping off a cliff. Everyone of them I know around here, is pissed off to know end that he got the boot.

Pissing off Donko fans in the short-term is NO excuse for fucking this franchise long-term.

Iowanian

01-22-2009, 08:54 AM

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 08:56 AM

Plummer was the real life "uncle rico".

The thought of the Rat, a man I've wanted to expire in an act of combustion, initially makes me want to blow chunks.

The very idea sickens me. I suppose I might warm to it if official, but now? uuuuuuuuuuugh.

Warm to NOTHING! Fight the Power!

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EyePod

01-22-2009, 10:17 AM

I feel dirty just thinking about Shanarat as our coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:28 AM

I feel dirty just thinking about Shanarat as our coach.

The Rats son just said NO go on Shanny-Fanny to Arrowhead.

Knowledgeable members of the Chiefs Nation breathe sigh of relief...:D

Iowanian

01-22-2009, 10:29 AM

Herman Edwards coached teams to victories over Shannahan lead Donkey teams 3 years in a row.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:31 AM

Herman Edwards coached teams to victories over Shannahan lead Donkey teams 3 years in a row.

Herm Edwards once defeated other Super-Bowl winning coaches, too.

Ain't nothing but a thang.

Donger

01-22-2009, 10:32 AM

The Rats son just said NO go on Shanny-Fanny to Arrowhead.

Knowledgeable members of the Chiefs Nation breathe sigh of relief...:D

Source?

Extra Point

01-22-2009, 10:33 AM

Pioli goes gunning for good coach:
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Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:35 AM

Herman Edwards coached teams to victories over Shannahan lead Donkey teams 3 years in a row.

Herm Edwards once defeated other Super-Bowl winning coaches, too.

Ain't nothing but a thang.

That's a great point, and don't you dismiss it padawan!

Source?

Radio.

BigRedChief

01-22-2009, 10:36 AM

The Rats son just said NO go on Shanny-Fanny to Arrowhead.

Knowledgeable members of the Chiefs Nation breathe sigh of relief...:D
You need to drop this or provide links.

Donger

01-22-2009, 10:37 AM

Radio.

What station, who said it and when, please.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:39 AM

You need to drop this or provide links.

Would you like me to type a transcript of the fucking quote?!?!

Is this any worse than NOTHING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS STUPID FUCKING RUMOR TO BEGIN WITH?!?!?

Get off your horse, jack.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:39 AM

Wow, flying off the handle now.

Chief Faithful

01-22-2009, 10:40 AM

I feel dirty just thinking about Shanarat as our coach.

What are you going to feel if he wins a SB coaching KC then you have the Rat immortalized beside Hank Stram in Chiefs history?

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:41 AM

What station, who said it and when, please.

610, Dipshit and Dipshit. Something they pulled off a national source. I was only paying attention to the PART THAT MATTERED, as I was working on something fairly important at that time.

Donger

01-22-2009, 10:42 AM

610, Dipshit and Dipshit. Something they pulled off a national source. I was only paying attention to the PART THAT MATTERED, as I was working on something fairly important at that time.

Thank you, and may I suggest you settle down a bit?

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:44 AM

Stop lying, DCS.

BigChiefFan

01-22-2009, 10:44 AM

610 is the equivilent to WPI. Those ****ers couldn't break a story if it was told to them.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:44 AM

Thank you, and may I suggest you settle down a bit?

I will when people stop asking me to provide something that can't be provided.

If anything, put a boot up Wendler's ass for starting an unsubstantiated pile of shit to begin with.

There was NOTHING to this from the get-go. NOTHING.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:45 AM

610 is the equivilent of trash. Those ****ers couldn't break a story if it was told to them.

Please do not compare WPI to 610. Last week we were shooting down their garbage.

BigChiefFan

01-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Please do not compare WPI to 610. Last week we were shooting down their garbage.
I'll compare them to whoever I feel like comparing them to.

I actually had changed the orginal post out of respect for you, but I think I'll change it back, after your bullshit comment.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:45 AM

I will when people stop asking me to provide something that can't be provided.

If anything, put a boot up Wendler's ass for starting an unsubstantiated pile of shit to begin with.

There was NOTHING to this from the get-go. NOTHING.

I honestly can't believe you're resorting to this.

You're so desperate to NOT see Shanahan in KC you're willing to sit here and post outright lies.

Pathetic.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:46 AM

610 is the equivilent of trash. Those ****ers couldn't break a story if it was told to them.

They didn't BREAK shit, they we're reading something second-hand. A quote from Kyle Shanahan saying that Mike was NOT coming to KC.

Donger

01-22-2009, 10:47 AM

I will when people stop asking me to provide something that can't be provided.

If anything, put a boot up Wendler's ass for starting an unsubstantiated pile of shit to begin with.

There was NOTHING to this from the get-go. NOTHING.

Huh? You just did exactly that in response to my question.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:47 AM

I honestly can't believe you're resorting to this.

You're so desperate to NOT see Shanahan in KC you're willing to sit here and post outright lies.

Pathetic.

Dude, your credentials speak volumes. This was nothing but a fucking Happy Birthday wish on your part.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:48 AM

Dude, your credentials speak volumes. This was nothing but a fucking Happy Birthday wish on your part.

What a joke you are.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:50 AM

What a joke you are.

Choke a dick.

You're not getting him, he's not coming.

Case closed, Goodnight!

nychief

01-22-2009, 10:50 AM

Claythan + DCSm = LOVERS

BigRedChief

01-22-2009, 10:50 AM

EyePod

01-22-2009, 10:51 AM

What are you going to feel if he wins a SB coaching KC then you have the Rat immortalized beside Hank Stram in Chiefs history?

I dunno, esp. because I was born in 1985....

penguinz

01-22-2009, 10:51 AM

Sad if Claythan thinks you are a joke. :p

Goapics1

01-22-2009, 10:52 AM

What a joke you are.

Says the pillow biter who lives in Mom's basement..........................

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 10:52 AM

Sad if Claythan thinks you are a joke. :p

I actually like him but he's flying off the handle this morning.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:54 AM

Claythan + DCSm = LOVERS

:cuss:

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 10:56 AM

sorry, but 610 has no credibility in my book. They talk about rumors as much as we do. They quote someone as if it were fact when its a rumor. And when it blows up in there face they say it wasn't us we were just quoting "X" person.

I believe their "gospel" about as much as I believe Claythan's.

Fact is; the guy is burnt-out and his recent work shows it. Let him take a year or two off, and THEN I would give him a chance.

BigRedChief

01-22-2009, 11:03 AM

I believe their "gospel" about as much as I believe Claythan's.

Fact is; the guy is burnt-out and his recent work shows it. Let him take a year or two off, and THEN I would give him a chance.
okay, so since you say Clayton is FOS. And you say you trust 610 as much as Clayton. why are you posting this as fact from 610?

EyePod

01-22-2009, 11:04 AM

okay, so since you say Clayton is FOS. And you say you trust 610 as much as Clayton. why are you posting this as fact from 610?

NICE!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 11:09 AM

okay, so since you say Clayton is FOS. And you say you trust 610 as much as Clayton. why are you posting this as fact from 610?

I figure if we're piling the bullshit, let's go ahead and pile some on the OTHER side of the argument as well.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 11:10 AM

I figure if we're piling the bullshit, let's go ahead and pile some on the OTHER side of the argument as well.

I expect an apology from you when Shanahan is hired.

Brock

01-22-2009, 11:12 AM

Why is Claythan arguing with himself?

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 11:14 AM

Why is Claythan arguing with himself?

LMAO

siberian khatru

01-22-2009, 11:15 AM

Why is Claythan arguing with himself?

I thought the same thing.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 11:16 AM

I expect an apology from you when Shanahan is hired.

And I expect YOU to put a fucking CHIEF in your avatar and/or signature when this shit blows over!

I mean, WTF is this shit?! You got the Arch Nemesis up top, and some Douchebag from San Diego down low.

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 11:16 AM

Jesus Christ you fuckers. I am not DCS.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 11:17 AM

Jesus Christ you fuckers. I am not DCS.

And I don't live in moms basement.

Goapics1

01-22-2009, 11:20 AM

Jesus Christ you ****ers. I am not DCS.

who you trying to fool? You guys have the same avatar, we ain't dumb.

Reerun_KC

01-22-2009, 11:21 AM

Jesus Christ you ****ers. I am not DCS.

And I don't live in moms basement.

Yes you are and yes you do...

Get over it!

Hammock Parties

01-22-2009, 11:22 AM

who you trying to fool? You guys have the same avatar, we ain't dumb.

Flopnuts has the same avatar, too.

Sweet Daddy Hate

01-22-2009, 11:26 AM

Yes you are and yes you do...

Get over it!

:cuss:

Frazod

01-22-2009, 11:26 AM

To hell with it.

I'm OK with this if it happens.

Get that rotten bastard on our side, using his evil powers for us instead of against us.

I'm prepared to give myself to the dark side.

Plus, the collective howl of rage from Denver would make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

EyePod

01-22-2009, 11:30 AM