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KChiefs1
01-16-2009, 09:31 AM
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Chiefs fans are extremely excited now that Clark Hunt has officially chosen Carl Peterson’s replacement. Not only that, but it’s the guy that has been at the top of Chiefs fans wish list since Hunt announced Peterson’s resignation on December 15<SUP>th</SUP>. That man, of course, is Scott Pioli, formerly the director of player personnel in New England.

Pioli will have control of all aspects of the football side of the organization.

He will decide if Herm Edwards (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/EdwaHe0.htm) should stay or go. He will be leading the draft war room. He will decide which free agents the team will pursue, and any trades the team may negotiate.

We are going to study what we may be able to expect from a Scott Pioli regime. I say “may expect” because we really don’t know for sure. Yes, Pioli has a great resume and had great success in New England. That doesn’t necessarily preclude success anywhere else though. Other circumstances are different. A different owner. A different coach. A different fan base. Get the idea? What I’m saying, I guess, is I’m very excited that the Chiefs got the best available man for the job, but not too excited until I see some moves of his pay off.

First, we will examine what we can expect from Pioli in the draft. The draft is where the foundation of every team is built. Free agents help, yes, but the bulk of most teams is from the draft. Pioli came to New England in 2000, participating in nine total drafts. Now, we don’t know for sure what choices he made or what input he had, but we can pretty well guess he had a pretty loud voice in the New England war room. Those noted as starters by Pro-Football-Reference.com for even one season are counted in the starters number from each draft.

2000 draft-10 total picks, 2 starters. Notable picks-Tom Brady (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm), 6<SUP>th</SUP> round, Patrick Pass (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PassPa00.htm), 7<SUP>th </SUP>round

2001 draft-10 picks, 4 starters. Notable picks-Richard Seymour (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SeymRi00.htmhttp://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SeymRi00.htm), 1<SUP>st</SUP> round, Matt Light (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LighMa20.htm) 2<SUP>nd </SUP>round.

2002 draft-6 picks, 4 starters. Notable picks-Daniel Graham (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GrahDa00.htm), 1<SUP>st</SUP> round, Deion Branch (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BranDe00.htm), 2<SUP>nd </SUP>round.

2003 draft-10 picks, 6 starters. Notable picks-Ty Warren (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WarrTy20.htm), 1<SUP>st</SUP> round, Eugene Wilson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsEu20.htm), 2<SUP>nd</SUP> round, Asante Samuel (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SamuAs20.htm), 4<SUP>th</SUP> round, Dan Koppen (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KoppDa20.htm), 5<SUP>th </SUP>round.

2004 draft-8 picks, 2 starters. Notable picks-Vince Woolfork (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilfVi20.htm), 1<SUP>st</SUP> round, Ben Watson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsBe00.htm) 2<SUP>nd </SUP>round.

2005 draft-7 picks, 4 starters. Notable picks-Logan Mankins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MankLo20.htm), 1<SUP>st</SUP> round, Ellis Hobbs (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HobbEl20.htm), 3<SUP>rd</SUP> round, Nick Kaczur (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KaczNi20.htm) 3<SUP>rd</SUP> round, Matt Cassel (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm), 7<SUP>th </SUP>round.

2006 draft-10 picks, 1 starter. Notable pick-Stephen Gostkowski (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GostSt20.htm), 4<SUP>th </SUP>round

2007 draft-9 picks, 1 starter. Notable pick-Brandon Meriweather (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MeriBr99.htm), 1<SUP>st </SUP>round

2008 draft-7 picks, 1 starter. Notable pick-Jerod Mayo (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MayoJe99.htm), 1<SUP>st </SUP>round.

Total draft picks-70. Total starters-24.

Carl Peterson draft picks during the same time frame.

Total draft picks-72. Total starters-27.

Hmm. Not much difference there. In fact, Carl has the slight edge.

Admittedly, there are flaws with this system, as it does list guys such as Ryan Sims (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimsRy20.htm) as starters. It doesn’t differentiate between good starters and bad ones. Lets stretch it out to those who have started 3 or more seasons…

Pioli-14
Peterson-8

Getting a starting gig isn’t the hardest part. Like I said, Ryan Sims had one for two seasons. It’s holding it. And Pioli has shown a distinct advantage in getting players in the draft good enough to get and hold on to a starting job.

But, Chiefs fans, also notice that Pioli’s success rate in getting these players is still only 20%. That means 80% of his picks have had little or no impact on the field. But, in the Pioli years in New England, only one first round pick could be considered a true bust, Laurence Maroney (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MaroLa00.htm). And he’s been hampered by injuries or they may have none that can be considered a true bust out of the first round.

I think its safe to say that while we may only get the same number of starters out of the draft as before, the quality of those starters can be expected to be much better. And we won’t have to worry as much as that the Chiefs will blow their first round picks on Trezelle Jenkins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JenkTr20.htm) or Ryan Sims.
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Cosmos
01-16-2009, 09:46 AM
College kids are rarely ready for the NFL.

There's a huge difference in the quality of coaching between NE & KC.

beach tribe
01-16-2009, 09:47 AM
Pretty sure this is a repost, but I could be wrong.

KChiefs1
01-16-2009, 09:52 AM
Pretty sure this is a repost, but I could be wrong.

I wasn't sure either because there are so many Pioli theads but I couldn't find the other one if there was one.

Hammock Parties
01-16-2009, 09:52 AM
This is deceiving.

Starters is one thing. What about QUALITY starters?

Bernard Pollard is a piece of shit.

Brock
01-16-2009, 09:53 AM
This is deceiving.

Starters is one thing. What about QUALITY starters?

Bernard Pollard is a piece of shit.

Yeah, that's what the article says.

The Franchise
01-16-2009, 09:59 AM
Let's take a better look at it......take a look at the number of picks that have flopped big time between the two. Shit....just look at 1st round picks.

Reerun_KC
01-16-2009, 10:02 AM
College kids are rarely ready for the NFL.

There's a huge difference in the quality of coaching between NE & KC.

This.....


We have some serious issues that need addressed...

Fritz88
01-16-2009, 10:07 AM
nice read