104.3 the Fan here in Denver reporting

[DenverChief]

that Pioli is in negotioans with Mike Shanahan


I just called the studio, and the call screener said it is a rumor that they have spoken.

[talastan]

:hmmm:

[Basileus777]

Claythan just jizzed in his pants.

[FringeNC]

Not shocked.

[MIAdragon]

Anything is better than Herm

[Jerm]

Pioli + Shanny = DREAM TEAM

It would not shock me at all.

[OnTheWarpath15]

And here we go...

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/234/c/3/Here_we_go_joker_ref_pic_by_sullen_skrewt.jpg

[ncCHIEFfan]

I am not exited about that idea

[Archie Bunker]

:)

I'd love to have him groom Stafford or Sanchez. Let Pioli pick the DC and it's potentially dominant front office.

This would be my jizz my pants hire.

[Stewie]

I'd be surprised if something of this magnitude is happening already.

[Jerm]

Crennel for DC?

Wow, that'd be a crazy start to the offseason.

[The Bad Guy]

My head is spinning.

[OnTheWarpath15]

:)

I'd love to have him groom Stafford or Sanchez. Let Pioli pick the DC and it's potentially dominant front office.

This would be my jizz my pants hire.

THIS.

[OnTheWarpath15]

My head is spinning.

No shit.

The last hour has been bat-shit crazy.

[dirk digler]

Fucking awesome!

[BigCatDaddy]

I love the idea, the key to the whole thing is who would become the next defensive coordinator under Shanny.

[DaneMcCloud]

I am not exited about that idea

Thanks for playing!

[Mr. Arrowhead]

so has herm been let go yet and it just hasnt been reported it.

[Hoover]

think of the house he can build in KC?

Phobia's probably drawing up plans as we speak.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm not surprised.

Clearly Clark Hunt was swayed by my column recommending Shanahan as head coach.

[Donger]

Excellent.

[penguinz]

I'm not surprised.Let me guess. Nick knew this was happening a week ago just never mentioned it.

[blueballs]

Didn't the Rat have a bad record playing Arrowhead
I could see from an ego standpoint about wanting to play there
other than that -no

[Hammock Parties]

GOD I AM SO FUCKING STOKED

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[The Bad Guy]

I can't get on the Orange Mane, what are they saying? I keep asking for them to send me my password, but they never do.

[aturnis]

If the team cannot INTERVIEW any HC candidates while Herm's still the HC, what makes anyone think they can HIRE a new HC while Herm's still the HC?

[dirk digler]

I can't get on the Orange Mane, what are they saying? I keep asking for them to send me my password, but they never do.

nothing. There is a thread about Shanahan going to Tampa but not about going to KC

[Buck]

I can't get on the Orange Mane, what are they saying? I keep asking for them to send me my password, but they never do.

Nothing about Shanny to KC, but they have a Shanny to TB? Thread.

[Basileus777]

nothing. There is a thread about Shanahan going to Tampa but not about going to KC

Don't worry, Claythan will start one there.

[Hammock Parties]

Let me guess. Nick knew this was happening a week ago just never mentioned it.

I hate to be a pimp, but Mike Shanahan news has been hitting our premium boards for over a week.

Of course this tidbit was free in the article I wrote 12 days ago if any of you had bothered to pay attention:

http://kan.scout.com/2/827395.html

Per an NFL source, Shanahan has made it known through “third-party channels” that he’s interested in the Chiefs’ job but would not require total control of football operations as he did in Denver. Can you imagine the perfect pairing of Shanahan and a general manager who could pluck the right defensive talent from the draft, while assisting in the search for the right defensive coordinator?

[Deberg_1990]

Nice.

If true, he gets to groom Sanchez or Stafford and Jam Culter and the Donks twice a year!

Hooah!!

[DaFace]

If the team cannot INTERVIEW any HC candidates while Herm's still the HC, what makes anyone think they can HIRE a new HC while Herm's still the HC?

That's what I'm wondering. Sounds like more BS to me.

[Basileus777]

Don't worry, Claythan will start one there.

And it's happened.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=76308

[DrRyan]

:)

I'd love to have him groom Stafford or Sanchez. Let Pioli pick the DC and it's potentially dominant front office.

This would be my jizz my pants hire.

Isn't that the reason the Bowlen (sp?) went out and got McDaniels from NE so he could groom Cutler? Shannahan has never been noted as a great groomer of QBs.

[1ChiefsDan]

that Pioli is in negotiations with Mike Shanahan


no linkMy boss just called and said he heard it on ESPN. "Nothing confirmed yet"

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm listening to 104.3 now, and nothing yet.

[Deberg_1990]

What does this mean for Herm??

[Basileus777]

What does this mean for Herm??

Who?

[DenverChief]

If the team cannot INTERVIEW any HC candidates while Herm's still the HC, what makes anyone think they can HIRE a new HC while Herm's still the HC?


that is not what happened with Cunningham - Vermiel

[penguinz]

I hate to be a pimp, but Mike Shanahan news has been hitting our premium boards for over a week.

Of course this tidbit was free in the article I wrote 12 days ago if any of you had bothered to pay attention:

http://kan.scout.com/2/827395.htmlAnd if he was hired Athan would publish that he knew it was going to happen 6 months ago just never told anyone.

[1ChiefsDan]

If the team cannot INTERVIEW any HC candidates while Herm's still the HC, what makes anyone think they can HIRE a new HC while Herm's still the HC?What says they can't interview?

Maybe not the most PC thing to do, but is it forbidden somewhere?

[The Bad Guy]

You can talk to whoever you want about a job regardless if you have an HC in place or not.

[blueballs]

Shanahan has Thigpen Fever

[DrRyan]

CBSsports reporting Chucky has been let go in Tampa.

[The Bad Guy]

CBSsports reporting Chucky has been let go in Tampa.

WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

And if he was hired Athan would publish that he knew it was going to happen 6 months ago just never told anyone.

We're not in the prediction business, penguinz. We just report the news as best we can.

[The Franchise]

CBSsports reporting Chucky has been let go in Tampa.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200486

[blueballs]

Grunny has said DV toured the Chiefs lockerroom
shaking hands and introducing himself while Gun was still coach

[keg in kc]

I don't know that it would be a good hire, but it would certainly make for some interesting drama.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I just called the studio, and the call screener said it is a rumor that they have spoken.

[Donger]

Is there anyone who would rather have Herm over Shanahan?

[DenverChief]

I just called the studio, and the call screener said it is a rumor that they have spoken.

LINK! :LOL:

[Buck]

I just called the studio, and the call screener said it is a rumor that they have spoken.

Call again and tell them you are John Clayton and you have some breaking news.

Improvise from there.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Call again and tell them you are John Clayton and you have some breaking news.

Improvise from there.

ROFL

[Deberg_1990]

We're not in the prediction business, penguinz.

ROFL

[crazycoffey]

Is there anyone who would rather have Herm over Shanahan?

I doubt it, I've been on record saying if herm stays, I wouldn't care. Shanny (while my hate for all things orange, would be a small speedbump) he clearly has a better history, and what he could do for us in the QB department would be epic.....

[stanleychief]

This rumor can't be true. I've seen no flights today!

[RedThat]

Shanahan would be great for Thigpen

[Big Chief Homer]

No shit.

The last hour has been bat-shit crazy.

What i miss in the last hour (besides Gruden).

[The Franchise]

What i miss in the last hour (besides Gruden).

Garrett is rumored to be the Rams new head coach.

[Big Chief Homer]

Garrett is rumored to be the Rams new head coach.


Oh ok thanks, Im not too far out of the loop yet.

saw that on espn before I had to go out into the great white northeast and unfreeze pipes.

thanks again.

[allen_kcCard]

I would like Shanny just for the sheer "ass in thier face" every time we beat the donks with him standing on the sidelines in red.

All of the negatives about him will be gone as long as he really isn't looking for sole control of the roster and Pioli can get a solid D coord in place to take care of that side of the ball. Chan is a good fit with him already and I like him to stay with or without the rat.

He also has the experience to be something like what they had in NE with Pioli as far as a football mind to be a partner with, but in this case it would be Scott with the final say instead of BB.

It would be hard to forget the flash of disgust when I see his face, but I would like him (eventually) if he were ours.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If he brings Jeremy Bates to be the OC, and lets Pioli have input on the DC, then I'm all for it.

[Mr. Laz]

as long as shannarat doesn't have full control .... i'm good with it.


keep him around for 5 years or so and we should be completely rebuilt and can start looking for his replacement. Hopefully shannarat cries when we fire him.

[SAUTO]

I would like Shanny just for the sheer "ass in thier face" every time we beat the donks with him standing on the sidelines in red.
All of the negatives about him will be gone as long as he really isn't looking for sole control of the roster and Pioli can get a solid D coord in place to take care of that side of the ball. Chan is a good fit with him already and I like him to stay with or without the rat.

He also has the experience to be something like what they had in NE with Pioli as far as a football mind to be a partner with, but in this case it would be Scott with the final say instead of BB.

It would be hard to forget the flash of disgust when I see his face, but I would like him (eventually) if he were ours.

dont forget shannahan's hatred for the raiders also, thats one thing that would be AWESOME!!! a HC who actually hates the other teams in our division as much as most of us fans(totally unlike perm)

[The Franchise]

If he brings Jeremy Bates to be the OC, and lets Pioli have input on the DC, then I'm all for it.

What's your input on Jeremy Bates? I've never heard of him.

[Buck]

dont forget shannahan's hatred for the raiders also, thats one thing that would be AWESOME!!! a HC who actually hates the other teams in our division as much as most of us fans(totally unlike perm)

I don't think he hates the Chargers, I mean, nobody does!

[Hammock Parties]

I would like Shanny just for the sheer "ass in thier face" every time we beat the donks with him standing on the sidelines in red.


It's like something out of a movie.

This shit isn't supposed to happen, especially not to sad-sack loser franchises like the Chiefs!

WTF IS GOING ON?

[Rain Man]

This rumor can't be true. I've seen no flights today!


Shanahan travels via flying monkey. Seen any flying monkeys?

[SAUTO]

I don't think he hates the Chargers, I mean, nobody does!

i'm sure he doesnt like them too awful much

[SAUTO]

oh and 2 out of 3 aint bad

[Big Chief Homer]

I would like Shanny just for the sheer "ass in thier face" every time we beat the donks with him staning on the sidelines in red.

All of the negatives about him will be gone as long as he really isn't looking for sole control of the roster and Pioli can get a solid D coord in place to take care of that side of the ball. Chan is a good fit with him already and I like him to stay with or without the rat.

He also has the experience to be something like what they had in NE with Pioli as far as a football mind to be a partner with, but in this case it would be Scott with the final say instead of BB.

It would be hard to forget the flash of disgust when I see his face, but I would like him (eventually) if he were ours.



Im not sure how I feel about this,all the years of distain for the guy and now he could be our new coach.


Herm or Shannahan.......:hmmm:........Shannahan or Herm...........:hmmm:


Bye Herm.

[SAUTO]

Im not sure how I feel about this,all the years of distain for the guy and now he could be our new coach.


Herm or Shannahan.......:hmmm:........Shannahan or Herm...........:hmmm:


Bye Herm.

for sure

[DT58HOF]

Pioli+Shanahan
Pioli+Gruden
Pioli+Marty
Pioli+Any of the 3= CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

[SAUTO]

Pioli+Shanahan
Pioli+Gruden
Pioli+Marty
Pioli+Any of the 3= CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

didnt you call hiring pioli an epic fail a couple of days ago?ROFL

[DT58HOF]

I don't think he hates the Chargers, I mean, nobody does!

I hate them, also there is a dude that warns me and gets me banned from a chiefs site all the time and he's a Bolts fan,lol
what the hell is the world coming to when a Bolts fans is a mod on a Chiefs site?:evil:

[Mr. Laz]

The way i look at is this ........ if i'm gonna hate our head coach, i might as well hate a good one.

:shrug:


carl
vermeil
herm
gunther


omg ...... bring on the rat!!


i've been separating my love on the team from my feelings bout the head coach ever since Marty.

[DT58HOF]

didnt you call hiring pioli an epic fail a couple of days ago?ROFL

Nope better go back and read, Pioli was a great hire, the thought of having Spagnulo or Schwartz even Mcdaniles would be epic failure!!

[allen_kcCard]

I don't think he hates the Chargers, I mean, nobody does!

I think his hate is seeded in his dislike for the fans of the city, rather than only in the ownership alone....and, well..there just isn't enough there for him to work with.

[stanleychief]

Im not sure how I feel about this,all the years of distain for the guy and now he could be our new coach.


Herm or Shannahan.......:hmmm:........Shannahan or Herm...........:hmmm:


Bye Herm.

I don't know how you expect us to achieve our full potential with Shannahan here. Great.. there goes our shot at getting the first pick of the 2010 draft.

[SAUTO]

Nope better go back and read, Pioli was a great hire, the thought of having Spagnulo or Schwartz even Mcdaniles would be epic failure!!

i thought you said pioli and any would be an epic fail

[suds79]

Woah. Probably just rumor but I seriously can't think of a better pair of talent when you think of Pioli & Shanahan.

[DT58HOF]

i thought you said pioli and any would be an epic fail
Nope Pioli and any of these guys that are just Cordinators like Spags for just a few years.

Pioli and pretty much any ex coach will be good or great.
No to Spags,no to Schwartz

yes to Rat,Marty,Cowher,Mariucci and Gruden!!

[The Franchise]

Mariucci? Seriously?

[SAUTO]

Nope better go back and read, Pioli was a great hire, the thought of having Spagnulo or Schwartz even Mcdaniles would be epic failure!!

yep you didnt pioli was a fail but yet you said ferentz would be great and these actual nfl coaches would suck. still laughable

[DrRyan]

Nope better go back and read, Pioli was a great hire, the thought of having Spagnulo or Schwartz even Mcdaniles would be epic failure!!

Shannahan, Marty or Gruden all over Schwartz or Spagnuolo? Schwartz has had pretty much a top ten defense the whole time he has been the DC in Tennessee(obviously he is no longer an option). But, why so anti Spagnuolo? I would take him over Marty or Gruden, still not sure what I think about the Rat though.

[Big Chief Homer]

I don't know how you expect us to achieve our full potential with Shannahan here. Great.. there goes our shot at getting the first pick of the 2010 draft.

ROFLROFL


meh...... if it gets rid of Herm I'll settle for the 32nd pick in the draft:D

[kstater]

Pioli+Shanahan
Pioli+Gruden
Pioli+Marty
Pioli+Any of the 3= CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

Because Marty has won so many championships?

[SAUTO]

Shannahan, Marty or Gruden all over Schwartz or Spagnuolo? Schwartz has had pretty much a top ten defense the whole time he has been the DC in Tennessee(obviously he is no longer an option). But, why so anti Spagnuolo? I would take him over Marty or Gruden, still not sure what I think about the Rat though.

ferentz over any of those guys shows what real genius this cat is

[DrRyan]

ferentz over any of those guys shows what real genius this cat is

Exactly...sporting the 58 name and DT avatar is a disgrace

[Mizzou_8541]

I am not exited about that idea

Exited? You aren EXCITED about that idea?...or is that CP lingo?

[memyselfI]

Well he'd better hurry because if I were the Rat then that TB job would be a nice place to work.

[BigChiefFan]

I like the idea of Shanahan as the Head Coach, I just didn't want him, if he was going to be calling the shots on player personnel.

[Jerm]

With Pioli on board, that ain't happening.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I like the idea of Shanahan as the Head Coach, I just didn't want him, if he was going to be calling the shots on player personnel.

I think that's why we hired Mr. Pioli.

[CrazyPhuD]

Fuck yea...if this happens our D will be the most dominate D known to man!

[Color Red]

Hey Shanny could bring his cooking spray and dangerous blocking schemes, teach us a thing or two about cheating on the salary cap that he learned in Denver, and with Pioli who came from the team that illegally spied on opponents, we really could have the Patriots Way right here in Kansas City. How exciting. Outlaws, just like in the old west! Call us the Kansas City Cheats!

[Skip Towne]

I hate to be a pimp, but Mike Shanahan news has been hitting our premium boards for over a week.

Of course this tidbit was free in the article I wrote 12 days ago if any of you had bothered to pay attention:

http://kan.scout.com/2/827395.html

Why should we pay attention?

[the Talking Can]

Shananananananahan hasn't had a fresh idea since almost as long as Carl, and drafts about the same (check)...(with the exception of Cutler)...he gets humiliated in playoff games (check), his FA signings suck (check), and his defenses suck ass (check)....


hell, maybe he is a fit for us....

[SAUTO]

Why should we pay attention?

well he at least had the "pay" part right

[Mr. Laz]

Shananananananahan hasn't had a fresh idea since almost as long as Carl, and drafts about the same (check)...(with the exception of Cutler)...he gets humiliated in playoff games (check), his FA signings suck (check), and his defenses suck ass (check)....


hell, maybe he is a fit for us....
shannarat was better before he got full control

[R&GHomer]

I'm so conflicted. The Rat in Red and Gold.... Arghhhh, I just can't wrap my noodle around it. I've spent over half my adult life hating that SOB, but he's a good coach and knows how to win. Pioli and him have potential that's for sure. I need a drink or 12

[SAUTO]

shannarat was better before he got full control

this is true, most gm/coaches fail, just too much for one person IMO

[Craqhead]

NO! I dont want the RAT!

[the Talking Can]

shannarat was better when he had Elway

.

[Agent V]

I'd take him in a heartbeat. Him and Pioli could build something here.

[Red Dawg]

Shanny would be incredible but we have no real reason to think they have talked or if Shanny would even take the job nor do we have a reason to think Super Scott wants him.


Herm is still the coach.

[royr17]

Ok Shanahan even though its a rumor, if you do become the chiefs coach, please oh please dont ask Jake Plummitt to unretire and by our QB.

[Anyong Bluth]

shannarat was better before he got full control

No, he was a better coach when, and it pains me to admir it, when he had probably had one of the top 2 QB's of all time, and lucked out in putting together a pretty formidable defense- which he hasn't been able to replace either sufficiently since.. Still a good HC but needs help in personnal decisions ...

[Dave Lane]

What does this mean for Herm??

This

[Mr. Laz]

No, he was a better coach when, and it pains me to admir it, when he had probably had one of the top 2 QB's of all time, and lucked out in putting together a pretty formidable defense- which he hasn't been able to replace either sufficiently since.. Still a good HC but needs help in personnal decisions ...
when his GM got him that great QB

how do we determine who lucks out and who doesn't?

he hasn't replace either because he's been GM and he's a better coach than personnel guy.

exactly he needs help with personnel decisions like Pioli would provide here.

[Agent V]

Anyway, if this is true (none of know, really), what do you think about the quarterback situation? I love the idea of Shanny developing a rookie. Which one, I haven't a clue.

[the Talking Can]

anyways, back on topic

shanahan is a good coach, but imo he is burnt out...he has been flailing for years but his rep kept people from calling him out...

plus, he may say he doesn't want power...but after a year or two he'll be right back in the owners ear...people that age don't change...


but hey, there are certainly worse options..

[kysirsoze]

With the power of the Pats and Donkeys combined, the Chiefs are going to be the cheatingest team this league has ever seen!!!

[Agent V]

anyways, back on topic

shanahan is a good coach, but imo he is burnt out...he has been flailing for years but his rep kept people from calling him out...

plus, he may say he doesn't want power...but after a year or two he'll be right back in the owners ear...people that age don't change...


but hey, there are certainly worse options..

Oh, you're absolutely right. I mean, I like to think a new setting and situation would benefit a seasoned coach who seems to have lost a bit of his ability. I can't say that for sure though, too many variables.

[Archie Bunker]

With the power of the Pats and Donkeys combined, the Chiefs are going to be the cheatingest team this league has ever seen!!!

:grovel:

[RedThat]

anyways, back on topic

shanahan is a good coach, but imo he is burnt out...he has been flailing for years but his rep kept people from calling him out...

plus, he may say he doesn't want power...but after a year or two he'll be right back in the owners ear...people that age don't change...


but hey, there are certainly worse options..

interesting you used the word burnout. I really think he needs to take a year off this was a hard yr for him.

[ROYC75]

With the power of the Pats and Donkeys combined, the Chiefs are going to be the cheatingest team this league has ever seen!!!

:doh!:

[ModSocks]

I'm so conflicted. The Rat in Red and Gold.... Arghhhh, I just can't wrap my noodle around it. I've spent over half my adult life hating that SOB, but he's a good coach and knows how to win. Pioli and him have potential that's for sure. I need a drink or 12

Im in the same boat. I fucking hate him, but he does =wins, so im confused. i'd have to like him if he wore the Red & Gold

[Frankie]

I am not exited about that idea

I am not either. He's a Donkey and we may never get the stench away. ;)

Actually though, there's one upside for that hiring. He'll have a chip on his shoulder about both Oakland and Denver. Those are 4 games a year he'll do his best to win.

[Frankie]

:)

I'd love to have him groom Stafford or Sanchez. Let Pioli pick the DC and it's potentially dominant front office.

This would be my jizz my pants hire.

How about Shanahan as HC and Spags as DC AND assistant HC?

[aturnis]

Shananananananahan hasn't had a fresh idea since almost as long as Carl, and drafts about the same (check)...(with the exception of Cutler)...he gets humiliated in playoff games (check), his FA signings suck (check), and his defenses suck ass (check)....


hell, maybe he is a fit for us....

Elvis Dumervil
Brandon Marshall
Eddie Royal
Ryan Clady

that's just the last few years off the top of my head.

[Frankie]

I'm not surprised.

Clearly Clark Hunt was swayed by my column recommending Shanahan as head coach.

So true.

Eh,... did I mention I was once the King of Mars?

[Frankie]

What does this mean for Herm??

Head scout or DB coach.

[Frankie]

Head scout or DB coach.

Ok that was sarcasm.

[CHENZ A!]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I HAVE HATED THIS RAT MOFO FOR OVER HALF MY LIFE AND I WON'T CHANGE

[Hoover]

I think we need to consolidate every thread that ever mentioned the Shanarat to this one so we can be better informed.

[Hammock Parties]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I HAVE HATED THIS RAT MOFO FOR OVER HALF MY LIFE AND I WON'T CHANGE

You'll love him when Larry is charging through the lanes his offensive line creates.

[Frazod]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.

[L.A. Chieffan]

shanny might have been a good coach but that dude went insane a while ago. maybe this is a wake up call and he'll go back to actually trying to win instead of jerking off on the sidelines

[dorseybowe]

trying to win instead of jerking off on the sidelines

Those homo Broncos :D

[Hammock Parties]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.

Just think how quickly the rebels would have kicked the empire's ass if Vader had left the dark side.

[1ChiefsDan]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.It would be great leaving a game here at Investo with all the donkey fans whining and bitching:D

[007]

without reading the whole thread... Does this rumor have any legs at all?

[DJJasonp]

Anyone...and I mean ANYONE is better than Herm....but with that said....how can our new GM boss Tony Soprano hire a rat to run his football team???

(I instantly apologize for that lame attempt at comedy.....but it was sitting there...right in the open...ripe for the taking)

[KcMizzou]

Just think how quickly the rebels would have kicked the empire's ass if Vader had left the dark side.LMAO

[Frankie]

Pioli+Shanahan
Pioli+Gruden
Pioli+Marty
Pioli+Any of the 3= CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

Marty?ROFL

[DeezNutz]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.

ROFL

[DeezNutz]

WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justice is disseminated quickly on the Planet.

[Frankie]

... But, why so anti Spagnuolo? I would take him over Marty or Gruden, ....

Yep. Marty is a regular season coach. He'll never win a Championship, Pioli or not. Somebody like spags may or may not be better than Gruden. But Gruden has proven he is not.

[Frankie]

You'll love him when Larry is charging through the lanes his offensive line creates.

His "DIRTY CHEATING" offensive line, you mean.

[Hammock Parties]

His "DIRTY CHEATING" offensive line, you mean.

This franchise needs some of that shit. Everyone is doing it. The Patriots, for instance.

[Frankie]

This franchise needs some of that shit. Everyone is doing it. The Patriots, for instance.

Honestly I'd rather my team won on merit, not by cheating. I don't want any excuses against our win when and if it happens.

[RedThat]

Anyone...and I mean ANYONE is better than Herm....but with that said....how can our new GM boss Tony Soprano hire a rat to run his football team???

(I instantly apologize for that lame attempt at comedy.....but it was sitting there...right in the open...ripe for the taking)

Because he is a good coach and would be a good fit here. Also, add to the fact he is one of the best guys out there who has a proven track record of winning in the league. Hes got the experience no doubt with championships to add to that.

There is talent on the offensive side of the ball it's just too bad it's being wasted by our current lame duck coach. I actually think KC is a great situation for Shanahan. It would be great for Tyler Thigpen a young QB who needs a coach who knows how to handle young QB's. And imo what better guy to have then Shanahan? There are RB's on this roster in Charles and Smith whom imo can be excellent cutback runners which would suit a Shanahan style of offense that emphasizes a lot on misdirection plays.

There are good receivers on this team in Gonzalez in Bowe. Shanny knows how 2 make average offensive lineman into pretty good ones. And the Chiefs have 2 good Offensive in Albert and Waters. If he was hired as the new HC here the offense would improve dramatically.

My only knock on him is defense. He hasn't really had good defenses. But, I think with Pioli, and a good DC around him that may just mask his weakness.

[Hammock Parties]

Honestly I'd rather my team won on merit, not by cheating. I don't want any excuses against our win when and if it happens.

We all want that.

That's not the way the league always works.

I don't feel the Broncos or the Patriots championships have been tainted. Those were damn good teams.

[petegz28]

Honestly I'd rather my team won on merit, not by cheating. I don't want any excuses against our win when and if it happens.

Yea, I am sure Shanny really thinks his 2 rings are tarnished... ROFL

[TEX]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.

:clap: I'm right there with ya!

[TEX]

Because he is a good coach and would be a good fit here. Also, add to the fact he is one of the best guys out there who has a proven track record of winning in the league. Hes got the experience no doubt with championships to add to that.

There is talent on the offensive side of the ball it's just too bad it's being wasted by our current lame duck coach. I actually think KC is a great situation for Shanahan. It would be great for Tyler Thigpen a young QB who needs a coach who knows how to handle young QB's. And imo what better guy to have then Shanahan? There are RB's on this roster in Charles and Smith whom imo can be excellent cutback runners which would suit a Shanahan style of offense that emphasizes a lot on misdirection plays.

There are good receivers on this team in Gonzalez in Bowe. Shanny knows how 2 make average offensive lineman into pretty good ones. And the Chiefs have 2 good Offensive in Albert and Waters. If he was hired as the new HC here the offense would improve dramatically.

My only knock on him is defense. He hasn't really had good defenses. But, I think with Pioli, and a good DC around him that may just mask his weakness.

When the Cheating Donx won thier Super Bowls, thier defense was very good.

[dorseybowe]

But Gruden has proven he is not.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

[Micjones]

In talks with Shanahan ay?
Wow... I wouldn't have a problem with that AT ALL.

[BigRedChief]

without reading the whole thread... Does this rumor have any legs at all?
I can tell you that I've heard this rumor from 2 different sources before it broke on the radio today. One is in Denver another in KC. No way they know each other. Neither of which is my reliable source. Still no word from them.So take it for what its worth.

Where there is smoke there is fire kind of thing?

[Skip Towne]

The Rat is OK by me.

[KCinNY]

The Rat is OK by me.

Me too.

[FloridaMan88]

Shanahan is a good coach, especially on offense. Put him under a good GM like Pioli and it should be a dynamic combination.

[alanm]

If the team cannot INTERVIEW any HC candidates while Herm's still the HC, what makes anyone think they can HIRE a new HC while Herm's still the HC?I seem to recall that Carl was talking to Vermeil before he canned Gunther the first time. :hmmm:

[the Talking Can]

I can tell you that I've heard this rumor from 2 different sources before it broke on the radio today. One is in Denver another in KC. No way they know each other. Neither of which is my reliable source. Still no word from them.So take it for what its worth.

Where there is smoke there is fire kind of thing?

I'd take the rat over any "retread" coach out there..especially Gruden

i still think he needs a year off to recharge and reflect, his personnel decisions have been just brutal for awhile in relation to his perceived talent as a coach...

i'd still prefer to roll the dice on our own coach...but if Pioli thinks he can bromance with the rat, well, ok, i guess...

[Chief Henry]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I HAVE HATED THIS RAT MOFO FOR OVER HALF MY LIFE AND I WON'T CHANGE



THIS


I've hated Shanahan for ever...i really don't want to start liking him either.

[007]

I can tell you that I've heard this rumor from 2 different sources before it broke on the radio today. One is in Denver another in KC. No way they know each other. Neither of which is my reliable source. Still no word from them.So take it for what its worth.

Where there is smoke there is fire kind of thing?Thanks for the verification.

[Logical]

A proven winner and Pioli would make me one very happy fan.

[KcMizzou]

A proven winner and Pioli would make me one very happy fan.WB, Jim.

[Logical]

WB, Jim.Thanks I plan to be around more, especially if Herm is replaced.

Thanks again

[DeezNutz]

A proven winner and Pioli would make me one very happy fan.

Back to the topic of this thread:

I'm not sure what to think about the Rat possibly coming to KC. I've despised the Donkeys of so long...

Nonetheless, if this were to happen, I'm struggling to think of another organization that would have made two front office moves during one off-season of the magnitude of the ones we're discussing.

[KcMizzou]

Thanks I plan to be around more, especially if Herm is replaced.

Thanks againExcellent.

Your return might get buried a bit in this particular thread...lol

[DeezNutz]

Excellent.

Your return might get buried a bit in this particular thread...lol

If you crazy kids would stop using confusing acronyms, others might be able to interact with you. WB?

WTF? NTTAWWT. JK.

(subsequent responses provided the needed context)

[007]

Excellent.

Your return might get buried a bit in this particular thread...lolBy design I'm sure. heh

[Hammock Parties]

And here we go...

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/234/c/3/Here_we_go_joker_ref_pic_by_sullen_skrewt.jpg

Kansas City's not beyond saving...

Larry Johnson can be the outcast.

[alanm]

I still don't like this, but the idea of a million shitsucking douchebag Bronco fans squealing in unison if it happens is enough to not make me hate it entirely.You'd enjoy it for the pain it would inflict alone. You're decently evil at times. :evil:

[Direckshun]

I'll say this.

If this actually happens, and we end up hiring Shanahan, we will be hiring an amoral cheater who has not accomplished anything outside of Elway, whom I've sworn to always hate and disrespect, as our decision-maker on the field.

Basically, I will hate it.

[wazu]

No. Don't want Shanahan. Might as well hire Satan.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

ROFLROFL


meh...... if it gets rid of Herm I'll settle for the 32nd pick in the draft:D

I'd rather have one, or the other. That's for sure.

[KCrockaholic]

you guys that think Shanahan is a good coach is just ammusing to me. I hate Herm, but i would rather keep him than ever have that slim ball p.o.s. Shanahan as coach. Hes probably the most overrated coach in NFL history. Its just sad.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Exited? You aren EXCITED about that idea?...or is that CP lingo?

I don't blame him. When I see the possibility of Rat Face McCheese-Eater being coach of the Chiefs, "exited" is a perfectly acceptable brain fart.

Allow me to demonstrate:

"When Shanahan became head coach of the Chiefs, my lunch exited my mouth via projectile-vomit".

"I exited the grassy knoll after blowing Shanahan's brains to hell with a sniper-rifle".

"After pissing in Shanahan's face during his presser at the Stram Theatre, I exited stage left".

[kysirsoze]

No. Don't want Shanahan. Might as well hire Satan.

Is he available?:evil:

[Baby Lee]

If you crazy kids would stop using confusing acronyms, others might be able to interact with you. WB?

WTF? NTTAWWT. JK.

(subsequent responses provided the needed context)

UR V8K8SH1 iz baqon

[Fritz88]

the rat..not too shabby.

[mlyonsd]

I think Pioli knows Shanahan likes to meddle in the personnel stuff so I don't think he'll be given much consideration.

[warrior]

I think Pioli knows Shanahan likes to meddle in the personnel stuff so I don't think he'll be given much consideration.

This---------------next rumor

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Is it just me, or is this thread missing it's entire burst?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Is it just me, or is this thread missing it's entire burst?

LMAO

[Mr. Flopnuts]

LMAO

Seriously. When I went to bed last night, this thread, umm, "Shook", all night long.

[kstater]

Seriously. When I went to bed last night, this thread, umm, "Shook", all night long.
ROFL


Alright, back to the fooball portion of the thread. I'd be Ok, with Shannahan, but he's far from my first choice. I just see him wanting more control several years down the road.

[FringeNC]

ROFL


Alright, back to the fooball portion of the thread. I'd be Ok, with Shannahan, but he's far from my first choice. I just see him wanting more control several years down the road.

Yep. If Shanahan could hold is ego in check, I'd love to have him.

[jAZ]

I'm not surprised.

Clearly Clark Hunt was swayed by my column recommending Shanahan as head coach.

Your article is the #1 result on Google for "shanahan chiefs".

[Mr. Flopnuts]

ROFL


Alright, back to the fooball portion of the thread. I'd be Ok, with Shannahan, but he's far from my first choice. I just see him wanting more control several years down the road.

Depending on Shanahan's outlook on coaching the Chiefs, he could easily be my first choice. If he's willing to allow Scott to bring in a D coordinator for him, I don't see a better option. If we're going to draft a franchise quarterback, who better to develop him?

[Chief Faithful]

I'll say this.

If this actually happens, and we end up hiring Shanahan, we will be hiring an amoral cheater who has not accomplished anything outside of Elway, whom I've sworn to always hate and disrespect, as our decision-maker on the field.

Basically, I will hate it.

He was an amoral cheater only because he was in Denver. In KC and with the help of Pioli I'm sure his cheater days will all be in his past.

:)

[milkman]

Depending on Shanahan's outlook on coaching the Chiefs, he could easily be my first choice. If he's willing to allow Scott to bring in a D coordinator for him, I don't see a better option. If we're going to draft a franchise quarterback, who better to develop him?

I think there are some positives that Shannahan would bring, but I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the rat in KC.

The fact is, I still don't believe in retreads that have won SBs elsewhere.
They seem to do well with the next team, but they never quite achieve the same kind of success that they enjoyed with thier SB teams.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I think there are some positives that Shannahan would bring, but I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the rat in KC.

The fact is, I still don't believe in retreads that have won SBs elsewhere.
They seem to do well with the next team, but they never quite achieve the same kind of success that they enjoyed with thier SB teams.

I could live with him winning us 1 Super Bowl instead of 2. Especially if we beat Denver in the AFC Championship.

[milkman]

I could live with him winning us 1 Super Bowl instead of 2. Especially if we beat Denver in the AFC Championship.

I'm talking about guys that didn't go on to win SBs with a second team.

Hank Stram, Mike Ditka, Bill Parcells, Dick, Mike Holmgren.

All guys that won a SB with one team who never won another with a another team.

[FringeNC]

Thinking about this a little more.....

Pioli is used to working with a powerful coach. Actually, Belichick had more power than Pioli, but each guy had a veto power on personnel. I think something similar could work here with Shanahan.

I have bigger doubts about the money. If Shanahan got all of his money owed as a going away present, it could work. But if Bowlen's payments to Shanahan decline at one to one rate with a new HC job, Shanahan will be working for free, and he won't do that. [Maybe something creative could be worked out with backloading or something?] And even if Shanny did get all his money, would he demand $7 million here, too? I don't think Clark is going to pay out over $20 million next year for GM and coaches (including Edwards' and Peterson's salary).

[DeezNutz]

I'm talking about guys that didn't go on to win SBs with a second team.

Hank Stram, Mike Ditka, Bill Parcells, Dick, Mike Holmgren.

All guys that won a SB with one team who never won another with a another team.

Isn't Grandpa the only coach to win a SB with a second team, after having won one with his original team?

[Chiefshrink]

No way this happens if Shannahan wants personnel control which I'm sure by now Shanny has learned his lesson of wearing too many hats in the previous org. Shanny the GM got Shanny the Coach fired.

Hands down Shanny is the best X's and O's guy 'offensively' and not to mention the best QB teacher(ala-could improve Thigpen tremendously) in the NFL. Pioli and Shanny have great admiration for one another and Shanny has always wanted to work with Gunther because he greatly respects him. Shanny really likes the Chiefs young core of talent coming up (Flowers,Carr,Bowe,Dorsey). Shanny I would think at this point would think I can just be a football coach and leave all the other stuff(GM,personnel) to somebody else and I have 45mil under the cap, Pioli,Gunther, good core of young talent and Arrowhead stadium.

I don't want him if he wants personnel control though.

[FringeNC]

I think there are some positives that Shannahan would bring, but I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the rat in KC.

The fact is, I still don't believe in retreads that have won SBs elsewhere.
They seem to do well with the next team, but they never quite achieve the same kind of success that they enjoyed with thier SB teams.

I think these guys buy into their own hype, and demand full control at the next stop. Turns out most of them are good coaches and shitty GMs.

[milkman]

Isn't Grandpa the only coach to win a SB with a second team, after having won one with his original team?

No.

He lost one with Philly.

He won his first with the Rams.

[DeezNutz]

No.

He lost one with Philly.

He won his first with the Rams.

Right, of course. I fucked that up.

Having gone to the SB with his original team, I believe he's the only coach to have won one with his second.

Sorry. Clusterfuck of an original post.

This doesn't mean much b/c there's a relatively small sample size, but it is interesting to note that even very good coaches aren't usually as successful in their second stops...

[milkman]

I think these guys buy into their own hype, and demand full control at the next stop. Turns out most of them are good coaches and shitty GMs.

Bill Parcells is actually a pretty good personnel guy, but he never brought the Pats, the Jets or the Boys a SB win.

Holmgren was a shitty personnel man, but he still hasn't achieved the same kind of success on the field, even after giving up personnel control, that he enjoyed in Green Bay.

I don't believe the others had GM responsibilities.

[Frankie]

Yea, I am sure Shanny really thinks his 2 rings are tarnished... ROFL

I don't care what he thinks. I care what I think.

[Frankie]

I think there are some positives that Shannahan would bring, but I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the rat in KC.

I've said it before. The only positive is that he will REALLY prepare to beat Denver and Oakland every year. That's 4 important games a year to try to win.

[Agent V]

I've said it before. The only positive is that he will REALLY prepare to beat Denver and Oakland every year. That's 4 important games a year to try to win.

I'm sure he'll try equally hard to win every game.

[milkman]

I'm sure he'll try equally hard to win every game.

Agreed.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I think there are some positives that Shannahan would bring, but I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the rat in KC.

The fact is, I still don't believe in retreads that have won SBs elsewhere.
They seem to do well with the next team, but they never quite achieve the same kind of success that they enjoyed with thier SB teams.

Yep.

I've said it before. The only positive is that he will REALLY prepare to beat Denver and Oakland every year. That's 4 important games a year to try to win.

Hiring the Rat just to watch Donko fans squirm when the Chiefs play them is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Go to the Minge and see how many people are truly upset about his firing.
It's close statistic-wise to the number of Chiefs fans that want to keep Herm.

Keep the Rat's Epic Stale the hell away from my team.

[RedThat]

I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think Shanahan would be great.

Give him a good gm to work with and outstanding ppl in the pro player personnel dept and I'll bet he'll easily be one of the best coaches in the league.

Given the fact we have Pioli, Im welcomed to having Shanahan as HC.

[MahiMike]

Bring him in! Especially if Spagnuolo is gone now. Blessing in disguise IMO.

[Mile High Mania]

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

The Cowboys are going to lose Garrett as OC... they fired their DC and their ST coach... Wade is sitting there thinking "Hmmmm, what's up Jerry". I don't know if they'll pull that trigger, but Shanahan in Dallas would make sense. Granted, you have Jerry not wanting to give up control, but stranger things have happened.

I think Mike sits out a year, unless something wild happens in Dallas.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

The Cowboys are going to lose Garrett as OC... they fired their DC and their ST coach... Wade is sitting there thinking "Hmmmm, what's up Jerry". I don't know if they'll pull that trigger, but Shanahan in Dallas would make sense. Granted, you have Jerry not wanting to give up control, but stranger things have happened.

I think Mike sits out a year, unless something wild happens in Dallas.


Yes! This! To the Cowgirls with him!

[Brock]

I'd be shocked ... you guys just brought on Pioli, and that likely isn't appealing to Shanny. And, on the flipside of that... Shanny wants more control and power than your normal HC, and Pioli just left that type of situation in NE.

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

[Mile High Mania]

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Well, looking at the last few years... what makes you think this is what he wants to do now?

[Brock]

Well, looking at the last few years... what makes you think this is what he wants to do now?

Because look where all that power got him.

[Mile High Mania]

Because look where all that power got him.

Ok, but I just don't see that changing much. I think it would have to be the right scenario and I think that would be a team like Dallas more than KC. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[bowener]

that Pioli is in negotioans with Mike Shanahan

For OC or HC?

[melbar]

I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think Shanahan would be great.

Give him a good gm to work with and outstanding ppl in the pro player personnel dept and I'll bet he'll easily be one of the best coaches in the league.

Given the fact we have Pioli, Im welcomed to having Shanahan as HC.

I'm sorry, was he not in a good situation in Denver? Did I miss something? Good players good front office, good owner...

no championship since Elway left.

[Mile High Mania]

Yeah, RedBull types as if Mike was coaching in Detroit... he called all the shots in Denver and had an owner that let him do as he pleased.

[RustShack]

I'm sorry, was he not in a good situation in Denver? Did I miss something? Good players good front office, good owner...

no championship since Elway left.

No Championship since he gained GM responsibilities.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.

[melbar]

No Championship since he gained GM responsibilities.

OK, but other than having a Running game, putting vasoline on players uniforms, cut blocking, and watching Elway pull inhuman throws out of his arse, what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

[RustShack]

OK, but other than having a Running game, putting vasoline on players uniforms, cut blocking, and watching Elway pull inhuman throws out of his arse, what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

Winning two Super Bowls?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.


ADDENDUM:

Said plane crashes in to Shanahan's new digs, taking him out as well.

It's for your own good Chiefs Nation.

[melbar]

Because of that great team and a HOF QB. His teams have been less than inspiring since. The tactics of his sb teams 10 yrs ago taint that imho.

[CrazyHorse]

Ok, but I just don't see that changing much. I think it would have to be the right scenario and I think that would be a team like Dallas more than KC. It will be interesting to see what happens.


You say he wants power. Only on the raiders do you have less power as HC than Dallas. Jerry Jones runs everything on that team.

[Hammock Parties]

what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

Winning a shit-ton of games?

Where do people get off talking like Shanahan is a mediocre coach?

[alanm]

No way this happens if Shannahan wants personnel control which I'm sure by now Shanny has learned his lesson of wearing too many hats in the previous org. Shanny the GM got Shanny the Coach fired.

Hands down Shanny is the best X's and O's guy 'offensively' and not to mention the best QB teacher(ala-could improve Thigpen tremendously) in the NFL. Pioli and Shanny have great admiration for one another and Shanny has always wanted to work with Gunther because he greatly respects him. Shanny really likes the Chiefs young core of talent coming up (Flowers,Carr,Bowe,Dorsey). Shanny I would think at this point would think I can just be a football coach and leave all the other stuff(GM,personnel) to somebody else and I have 45mil under the cap, Pioli,Gunther, good core of young talent and Arrowhead stadium.

I don't want him if he wants personnel control though.I would be OK with Gun coming back if a new HC would let Gun run HIS attack style defense instead of the shitty hybrid cover 2 shit that Herm made him run. If the abortion of a _efense that was unveiled on the field this past fall was all Guns doing and not mandated by Herm, then I want Gunther's head on a platter.

[Fritz88]

not too shabby.

[alanm]

Yep.



Hiring the Rat just to watch Donko fans squirm when the Chiefs play them is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Go to the Minge and see how many people are truly upset about his firing.
It's close statistic-wise to the number of Chiefs fans that want to keep Herm.

Keep the Rat's Epic Stale the hell away from my team.
It was and is still about 50/50 over the Rat being fired. The Pro side being lead mostly by Taco.
I think he's a good coach who should of stayed focused on coaching and stayed away from personnel.
That and he needs to stay away from defense.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You know what? Fuck this; it's time to get serious. I was hoping someone would hit on this but since there are no takers present, I'm gonna' do the job.

When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, they came back the next year, moved in to a new stadium, and haven't seen a Super Bowl since.

When Denver won their 2nd title, the same thing happened.

When you have a Championship Franchise, you don't sit on your ass in the off season and hope for another repeat. We've hired a guy who's only purpose in life is to build that Championship Team, and keep the roster moving along through the years so that a backslide is avoided.

Mike Shanahan does NOT know how to do this. And I don't think for a NY-Minute that he's going to just sit back and be happy with whatever players Pioli sends his way.
The guy couldn't control Cutler to keep that Douche from embarrassing himself and the franchise either.
It's also obvious he doesn't know how to get his players fired-up either.

His "burst" is G-O-N-E. Shanahan to KC? I'd rather drink cat-piss.

[Taco John]

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

[FringeNC]

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

Why in your opinion was he fired?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

I agree, TJ.

[Taco John]

Why in your opinion was he fired?


Basically because Pat got impatient.

I've heard a few insider type things, but most of it is speculation.

At the end of the day, Shanahan wasted a lot of time trying to find a franchise quarterback to run his offense, and in that time, the defense has suffered. Shanahan probably could have kept his job if the Broncos went to the playoffs this season - but with 7 runningbacks on IR, the best he could do was .500.

Them's the breaks.

[FringeNC]

Basically because Pat got impatient.

I've heard a few insider type things, but most of it is speculation.

At the end of the day, Shanahan wasted a lot of time trying to find a franchise quarterback to run his offense, and in that time, the defense has suffered. Shanahan probably could have kept his job if the Broncos went to the playoffs this season - but with 7 runningbacks on IR, the best he could do was .500.

Them's the breaks.

Our meltdown against SD cost Carl and Shanahan's jobs, and soon to be Herm's. Tampa's loss to Oakland cost Gruden his, and allowed Philly to do what they've done. The doormats of the AFC West had a big impact on this NFL season.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Our meltdown against SD cost Carl and Shanahan's jobs, and soon to be Herm's. Tampa's loss to Oakland cost Gruden his, and allowed Philly to do what they've done. The doormats of the AFC West had a big impact on this NFL season.


Hooray for Epic Suck!!!:doh!:

[Mile High Mania]

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

It's definitely going to be odd not seeing him on the sideline, but I am fine with the change. Shanahan built a nice offense, but the defense... man, that has been a big pile of stink for years and ultimately that is why I'm fine with the change.

It's interesting that they are keeping Dennison and Tuner - good for them, but I really hope they focus a bulk of that cap space and draft on the defense this offseason.

I'm tired of the FA misses on guys like Robertson, let's try something new.

Offensively, let's focus on that primary RB once again and keep a number of the guys we have now as insurance.

It's going to be interesting and I think it will be good. A lot of key pieces to the puzzle are there, now fix the defense.

[RUSH]

Our meltdown against SD cost Carl and Shanahan's jobs, and soon to be Herm's. Tampa's loss to Oakland cost Gruden his, and allowed Philly to do what they've done. The doormats of the AFC West had a big impact on this NFL season.

And the Chiefs ruined the Patriots title hopes.

[Hammock Parties]

Shanahan wasted a lot of time trying to find a franchise quarterback to run his offense, and in that time, the defense has suffered.

Please, man. You act like Shanahan wasn't even trying to fix the defense. The truth you don't seem to want to accept is that he fucking failed horribly at it. The minute he fired Coyer it all went downhill.

Fortunately, with Pioli to hold his hand in Kansas City, we won't have that problem. :evil:

[penchief]

I would be OK with Gun coming back if a new HC would let Gun run HIS attack style defense instead of the shitty hybrid cover 2 shit that Herm made him run. If the abortion of a _efense that was unveiled on the field this past fall was all Guns doing and not mandated by Herm, then I want Gunther's head on a platter.

He had the defense under Vermeil and sucked. IMO, he's incompetent. Scheme aside, it's frustrating watching the defense repeat the same deficiencies every season.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He had the defense under Vermeil and sucked. IMO, he's incompetent. Scheme aside, it's frustrating watching the defense repeat the same deficiencies every season.

Yep, his usefulness has past.

[Hammock Parties]

Satan! GET BEHIND ME!

[FloridaMan88]

I would be OK with Gun coming back if a new HC would let Gun run HIS attack style defense

I can't believe there are people STILL defending Goonther.

The Chiefs' defense started faltering during Goonther's final season as the Chiefs head coach... that had nothing to do with a "hybrid Cover 2" you are describing in your post.

Goonther's defenses were mediocre and kept the Chiefs out of the playoffs during Vermeil's final season in KC... and that had nothing to do with a "hybrid Cover 2".

[CrazyHorse]

Basically because Pat got impatient.

I've heard a few insider type things, but most of it is speculation.

At the end of the day, Shanahan wasted a lot of time trying to find a franchise quarterback to run his offense, and in that time, the defense has suffered. Shanahan probably could have kept his job if the Broncos went to the playoffs this season - but with 7 runningbacks on IR, the best he could do was .500.

Them's the breaks.

That's ridiculous. The Broncos rescources have been spent primarily on defense for the last sevaral years. Hell, was it 2 years ago he spent 8 picks on three players on the defense?

That was just the year before last. You call that good dratfting? You're easy to please.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Anything is better than Herm

No MIA, no it's not.

Pioli + Shanny = DREAM TEAM


It would not shock me at all.

I don't dream of having my dick cut off and my asshole sewn shut, buy hey; to each his own.

:)

I'd love to have him groom Stafford or Sanchez. Let Pioli pick the DC and it's potentially dominant front office.

This would be my jizz my pants hire.

My head is spinning.

No shit.

The last hour has been bat-shit crazy.

What the FUCK did you two drink today?

Fucking awesome!

Offfffffffffff course; why am I NOT surprised.

I love the idea, the key to the whole thing is who would become the next defensive coordinator under Shanny.

I'm not surprised.

Clearly Clark Hunt was swayed by my column recommending Shanahan as head coach.

Excellent.

GOD I AM SO FUCKING STOKED

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It's not DaVinci, but it IS an Epic Rendering that so beautifully depicts the brain-power of the True Fan/Full Retard Chiefs fan who would support the hiring of Mike Shanahan.
TO THE SMITHSONIAN!

I hate to be a pimp, but Mike Shanahan news has been hitting our premium boards for over a week.

Of course this tidbit was free in the article I wrote 12 days ago if any of you had bothered to pay attention:

http://kan.scout.com/2/827395.html

Nice.

If true, he gets to groom Sanchez or Stafford and Jam Culter and the Donks twice a year!

Hooah!!

Shanahan would be great for Thigpen

I would like Shanny just for the sheer "ass in thier face" every time we beat the donks with him standing on the sidelines in red.

All of the negatives about him will be gone as long as he really isn't looking for sole control of the roster and Pioli can get a solid D coord in place to take care of that side of the ball. Chan is a good fit with him already and I like him to stay with or without the rat.

He also has the experience to be something like what they had in NE with Pioli as far as a football mind to be a partner with, but in this case it would be Scott with the final say instead of BB.

It would be hard to forget the flash of disgust when I see his face, but I would like him (eventually) if he were ours.

If he brings Jeremy Bates to be the OC, and lets Pioli have input on the DC, then I'm all for it.

as long as shannarat doesn't have full control .... i'm good with it.


keep him around for 5 years or so and we should be completely rebuilt and can start looking for his replacement. Hopefully shannarat cries when we fire him.

dont forget shannahan's hatred for the raiders also, thats one thing that would be AWESOME!!! a HC who actually hates the other teams in our division as much as most of us fans(totally unlike perm)

Im not sure how I feel about this,all the years of distain for the guy and now he could be our new coach.


Herm or Shannahan.......:hmmm:........Shannahan or Herm...........:hmmm:


Bye Herm.

Pioli+Shanahan
Pioli+Gruden
Pioli+Marty
Pioli+Any of the 3= CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

The way i look at is this ........ if i'm gonna hate our head coach, i might as well hate a good one.

:shrug:


carl
vermeil
herm
gunther


omg ...... bring on the rat!!


i've been separating my love on the team from my feelings bout the head coach ever since Marty.

Woah. Probably just rumor but I seriously can't think of a better pair of talent when you think of Pioli & Shanahan.

ROFLROFL


meh...... if it gets rid of Herm I'll settle for the 32nd pick in the draft:D

Yes, I've always thought the SUPER-SIZE Shit Sandwich tasted MUCH better than the regular one. :rolleyes:

I like the idea of Shanahan as the Head Coach, I just didn't want him, if he was going to be calling the shots on player personnel.

I'd take him in a heartbeat. Him and Pioli could build something here.

Isn't ONE Hindenburg tragedy enough? I'm sure people in the old west thought the outhouse was pretty nifty before indoor plumbing, yes?

In talks with Shanahan ay?
Wow... I wouldn't have a problem with that AT ALL.

The Rat is OK by me.

We were SO close. There was some respect however minuscule starting to happen. And now this. :shake:

Shanahan is a good coach, especially on offense. Put him under a good GM like Pioli and it should be a dynamic combination.

A proven winner and Pioli would make me one very happy fan.

ROFL


Alright, back to the fooball portion of the thread. I'd be Ok, with Shannahan, but he's far from my first choice. I just see him wanting more control several years down the road.

Yep. If Shanahan could hold is ego in check, I'd love to have him.

Depending on Shanahan's outlook on coaching the Chiefs, he could easily be my first choice. If he's willing to allow Scott to bring in a D coordinator for him, I don't see a better option. If we're going to draft a franchise quarterback, who better to develop him?

No way this happens if Shannahan wants personnel control which I'm sure by now Shanny has learned his lesson of wearing too many hats in the previous org. Shanny the GM got Shanny the Coach fired.

Hands down Shanny is the best X's and O's guy 'offensively' and not to mention the best QB teacher(ala-could improve Thigpen tremendously) in the NFL. Pioli and Shanny have great admiration for one another and Shanny has always wanted to work with Gunther because he greatly respects him. Shanny really likes the Chiefs young core of talent coming up (Flowers,Carr,Bowe,Dorsey). Shanny I would think at this point would think I can just be a football coach and leave all the other stuff(GM,personnel) to somebody else and I have 45mil under the cap, Pioli,Gunther, good core of young talent and Arrowhead stadium.

I don't want him if he wants personnel control though.

I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think Shanahan would be great.

Give him a good gm to work with and outstanding ppl in the pro player personnel dept and I'll bet he'll easily be one of the best coaches in the league.

Given the fact we have Pioli, Im welcomed to having Shanahan as HC.

Bring him in! Especially if Spagnuolo is gone now. Blessing in disguise IMO.

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[melbar]

Marty?ROFL

Seriously what is all the hatred for Marty? He made us the 2nd winningest franchise in the 90's. his last job he went 13-3. Some bad coaching and a lot of bad luck in the playoffs ya, but he's one of the best coaches in the history of the NFL period. His day will come.

Why do so many hate a guy that did so many great things for this Team? He turned this team around from being a turd to a perenial playoff team. Dont want him back if you like, but to laugh at him like he's a joke is ridiculous.

[FloridaMan88]

Seriously what is all the hatred for Marty? He made us the 2nd winningest franchise in the 90's. his last job he went 13-3. Some bad coaching and a lot of bad luck in the playoffs ya, but he's one of the best coaches in the history of the NFL period. His day will come.

Why do so many hate a guy that did so many great things for this Team? He turned this team around from being a turd to a perenial playoff team. Dont want him back if you like, but to laugh at him like he's a joke is ridiculous.


Maybe because we know how the story ends with Marty... regular season success followed by a flameout in the playoffs.

[Frankie]

Satan! GET BEHIND ME!

I thought you wanted to get into priesthood.

[Frankie]

Seriously what is all the hatred for Marty? He made us the 2nd winningest franchise in the 90's. his last job he went 13-3. Some bad coaching and a lot of bad luck in the playoffs ya, but he's one of the best coaches in the history of the NFL period. His day will come.

Why do so many hate a guy that did so many great things for this Team? He turned this team around from being a turd to a perenial playoff team. Dont want him back if you like, but to laugh at him like he's a joke is ridiculous.

To get a championship, a team HAS to go through the playoffs. Hence Marty IS a joke.

[wazu]

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

Yep, agree. Fortunately Bowlen tossed us a lifeline. McDaniels seems like a good pick, if you haven't just finished firing Mike Fucking Shanahan.

[Taco John]

That's ridiculous. The Broncos rescources have been spent primarily on defense for the last sevaral years.



Are you high or something? You shouldn't embarass yourself with such uniformed takes in a public forum.

[keg in kc]

Are you high or something? You shouldn't embarass yourself with such uniformed takes in a public forum.What kind of uniform? Like, police, or a french maid?

[Taco John]

Yep, agree. Fortunately Bowlen tossed us a lifeline. McDaniels seems like a good pick, if you haven't just finished firing Mike ****ing Shanahan.



I hear ya... Firing Shanahan, keeping his personnel guy, and then hiring a younger version of him... that doesn't make too much sense to me.

I could have seen if we hired Spagnuolo...

But whatever. I think there's more to it behind the scenes between Shanahan and Bowlen than they're letting on out in the open.

[melbar]

To get a championship, a team HAS to go through the playoffs. Hence Marty IS a joke.

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

[Dallas Chief]

I hear ya... Firing Shanahan, keeping his personnel guy, and then hiring a younger version of him... that doesn't make too much sense to me.

I could have seen if we hired Spagnuolo...

But whatever. I think there's more to it behind the scenes between Shanahan and Bowlen than they're letting on out in the open.

Who is his personnel guy?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

Because there was "Magic in the Way He Sucked":

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[Frankie]

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

To the best of my recollection, none of them has coached an NFL team. If they do and never make it past playoffs, I will call them a joke, AS A COACH!