Schefter from NFL Network: KC HAS NOT contacted Shanahan (as of mid-day Thurs. 1/22)

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SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WON’T LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m.
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that there’s no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahan’s spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he can’t be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/22/schefter-shanahan-wont-land-in-kansas-city/

EDIT**

From Schefter's own BLOG

CHIEFS HAVE NOT CONTACTED SHANAHAN

Nearly a month after the season, the Chiefs still have not made a coaching change. Mike Shanahan still does not have a job.

Thus, in the past 24 hours, like a virus that has spread, some have concluded that Kansas City is pursuing Shanahan and he could be the Chiefs next head coach.

Time to squash that rumor. As of mid-day Thursday, the Chiefs and Shanahan have not had any contact. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And yet within the past hour, I’ve gotten a half-dozen calls and emails from various Kansas City and Denver media outlets, asking if there is any truth to the rumor that the Chiefs and Shanahan are talking.

No, there is not. There is no truth to the rumor. Chiefs officials are at the Senior Bowl and Shanahan just finished a morning run on the treadmill.

The Chiefs coaching mystery continues — minus Shanahan.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/22/chiefs-have-not-contacted-shanahan/

[FloridaMan88]

Already posted in another thread:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5415712&postcount=208

[EyePod]

This deserves its own thread. We can all feel a little less dirty for thinking of Shanny in a Chiefs outfit...

[Red Dawg]

Garcia Bronco is a fugging LIAR!

[MagicHef]

It has occurred several times where Schefter is wrong because Shanahan wanted him to spread misinformation.

Just sayin'.

[bowener]

Could the Chiefs be in full govt black-ops mode? Maybe Pioli has brought the Pats blanket of secrecy with him (did he bring it to NE?), and along with that, a crack team of misinformation specialists. Just in case anything does leak out he has piles of trash leak out as well, just so you have to sort through all those dirty diapers and half eaten apples to find the real Vienna sausage of truth.

[Brock]

I doubt Schefter knows any more about the situation than say, Adam Teicher does.

[Chiefnj2]

Are the Chiefs supposed to be talking to Shanahan if Herm is under contract?

[Brock]

Are the Chiefs supposed to be talking to Shanahan if Herm is under contract?

Were they supposed to be talking to Vermeil when Gunther was under contract?

[blueballs]

cell phones across the mid-west
are a blaze on this warm winter morning
with wives laughing at spouses

[Chiefnj2]

Were they supposed to be talking to Vermeil when Gunther was under contract?

The new commish hands out fines more freely than the old one.

[Chieftain58]

Hmmm.. Interesting

[DaWolf]

We should know more by opening day...

[Brock]

The new commish hands out fines more freely than the old one.

I'd rather pay a fine than lose a draft pick.

[suds79]

We should know more by opening day...

:LOL:

[Bowser]

This settles it. Shanahan is our new coach.

[MTG#10]

I doubt Schefter knows any more about the situation than say, Adam Teicher does.

Exactly. As tight-lipped as Pioli is, does anyone really think he would be honest to Schefter regarding his coaching candidates?

[Micjones]

Who did Schefter talk to?

[bluehawkdoc]

The Soul Man apparently or possibly his magic conch.

[EyePod]

so no ShanWow?

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/182/shanwowps7.png

[Gonzo]

Ok gang as many of you know.....



But in all seriousness, this is nice.

[DaWolf]

Who did Schefter talk to?

Apparently Shanarat's personal trainer.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/ani-mouse.gif

[bluehawkdoc]

nicely done, very nice.

[Chiefnj2]

Who did Schefter talk to?

It appears he spoke to Shanahan or someone close to Shanahan since he said Shanahan just stepped off his treadmill.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Schefter is often right when he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the NFL IMO.

[penguinz]

Schefter is often right when it he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the NFL IMO.Hard to guess that an offensive geared team would look for an offensive minded coach.

[Brock]

Schefter is often right when he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the NFL IMO.

He's not talking to the Broncos.

[KCrockaholic]

Thank god! i wouldve died having him as our coach

[chiefscafan]

He was wrong bout pioli when he said we wouldn't get him.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Most of the reports were saying we were going for a defensive minded coach...

[Micjones]

It appears he spoke to Shanahan or someone close to Shanahan since he said Shanahan just stepped off his treadmill.

In that case I guess Shanahan or his spokesperson could be downplaying the talks at Pioli's request.

[KCrockaholic]

Schefter is often right when he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the NFL IMO.

i agree, although Schefter is a donk lover, hes the most accurate "insider". im kinda jealous of him

[penguinz]

Most of the reports were saying we were going for a defensive minded coach...Did you honestly think they would go with a defensive coach?

[Quesadilla Joe]

He's not talking to the Broncos.
He talked to Shanahan..

Schefter covered the Broncos for over 10 years when he was with the Denver Post. Who was the only person to get an exclusive interview with Mike Shanahan at Mike's house after he was fired? Schefter...

[Brock]

He talked to Shanahan..

Schefter covered the Broncos for over 10 years when he was with the Denver Post. Who was the only person to get an exclusive interview with Mike Shanahan at Mike's house after he was fired? Schefter...

I understand he says he talked to Shanahan. However unlikely it might be, Shanahan may not have told him anything.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Did you honestly think they would go with a defensive coach?

I hoped we would. We have a pretty good staff in place on offense. Most Bronco fans expected it to be a defensive guy like Spags or Morris.

[orange]

I understand he says he talked to Shanahan. However unlikely it might be, Shanahan may not have told him anything.

I'm sure it's far more likely that Shanahan's kid divulges inside information to random passersby at a mall. :rolleyes:

[Brock]

I'm sure it's far more likely that Shanahan's kid divulges inside information to random passersby at a mall. :rolleyes:

don't look at me, I don't even want the son of a bitch here.

[Monty]

so no ShanWow?

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/182/shanwowps7.png

Only unless Shanahan is German. We all know those Germans make great stuff!

[duncan_idaho]

Original Post= me clapping.

Screw the Rat. Don't need his tired schtick.

[Stryker]

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigChiefFan]

Only unless Shanahan is German. We all know those Germans make great stuff!
I love those Bavarians, so meticulous.

[crazycoffey]

Schefter is often right when he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the Bronco's IMO.


FYP

[Zouk]

Every day that goes by Todd Haley and Russ Grimm become less likely. If we wanted to interview them, we'd have to do it this week or wait until after the Super Bowl. Next week they are off limits for interviews. If Pioli wanted Haley, wouldn't he pull the trigger on firing Herm and interviewing him this week?

[cdcox]

It's pretty obvious that the Chiefs don't want any information leaking. I'd say all reports about Shanahan have equal credibility at this point. Those breathing a sigh of relief may yet be disappointed. We really know nothing about the Chiefs coaching situation with any degree of certainty, except I have a hard time seeing them keeping Herm with all the assistants that they have let walk.

[cdcox]

Every day that goes by Todd Haley and Russ Grimm become less likely. If we wanted to interview them, we'd have to do it this week or wait until after the Super Bowl. Next week they are off limits for interviews. If Pioli wanted Haley, wouldn't he pull the trigger on firing Herm and interviewing him this week?

Holding on to Herm for now helps maintain the uncertain environment, which is clearly a top priority for this regime.

[Zouk]

Holding on to Herm for now helps maintain the uncertain environment, which is clearly a top priority for this regime.

This makes no sense to me. What does uncertainty do for them?

[FringeNC]

Assuming Herm is gone (which I do), what is the delay in firing him buying Pioli and the Chiefs? It must be something, but who knows what it is. One theory I don't buy is that he is seriously considering retaining Herm. If that was the case, I think the announcement would have been made. The only thing I can think of is that Clark is trying to get out of paying Herm's contract. Don't really buy that one, either.

[HemiEd]

Exactly. As tight-lipped as Pioli is, does anyone really think he would be honest to Schefter regarding his coaching candidates?

Schefter could be damage control for the Kyle Shanahan mall leak. Like CDCox said, we know nothing. Any or none of it could be true. Bastards.

Assuming Herm is gone (which I do), what is the delay in firing him buying Pioli and the Chiefs? It must be something, but who knows what it is. One theory I don't buy is that he is seriously considering retaining Herm. If that was the case, I think the announcement would have been made. The only thing I can think of is that Clark is trying to get out of paying Herm's contract. Don't really buy that one, either.
Going by what Pioli said in the PC. He wanted to go over everything that was supposed to happen, and what did happen in the games.
If they did that for all 49 Herm Edwards games, it could take a while. Does anyone think Herm can remember all of that?

[bishop_74]

This makes no sense to me. What does uncertainty do for them?

It provides a solid foundation for ambiguity.

[Nixhex]

I can't wait until this is all sorted out.

[Monty]

I can't wait until this is all sorted out.

Me neither...I have some Crown and Chocolate cigars reserved for the day Herm gets fired. :D

[DaWolf]

Me neither...I have some Crown and Chocolate cigars reserved for the day Herm gets fired. :D

Well then let's hope the delay isn't because they are negotiating a contract extension with Herm... :doh!:

[Brock]

This makes no sense to me. What does uncertainty do for them?

What difference does it make at all?

[Zouk]

What difference does it make at all?

The faster you hire a coach the faster you can hire a staff. Assistants are getting snapped up left and right. Plus you can start planning for free agency which starts 1 month from now.

[Monty]

Well then let's hope the delay isn't because they are negotiating a contract extension with Herm... :doh!:

No kidding.....I'm all prepared for drinking and cigars. :D

This has been a daily occurance for the last two weeks:

Me: Well, today may be the day Herm gets fired! You know what I'll be doing if that happens!
Wife: Heh...they're just going to keep him this year, so no cigars and Crown for you.
Me: There's no way that Pioli will keep Herm! It won't happen! Pioli is too smart to keep a DA like Herm!
Wife: It's Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Then she laughs because of the Herm quote, but I don't think it's a damn bit funny......

It's like freakin' Groundhog Day.........:cuss:

[Extra Point]

Friday is the optimum day to can someone. Shoot for tomorrow? Or Fri after next? Or.... Sometime, man!

[Brock]

The faster you hire a coach the faster you can hire a staff. Assistants are getting snapped up left and right. Plus you can start planning for free agency which starts 1 month from now.

Sometimes, the faster you hire a coach, the faster you screw your football team for 5 years. You're just angst-ridden because you don't know what's going on.

[Rooster]

It's like freakin' Groundhog Day.........:cuss:

Yes it is. :sulk:

[Extra Point]

Assuming Herm is gone (which I do), what is the delay in firing him buying Pioli and the Chiefs? It must be something, but who knows what it is. One theory I don't buy is that he is seriously considering retaining Herm. If that was the case, I think the announcement would have been made. The only thing I can think of is that Clark is trying to get out of paying Herm's contract. Don't really buy that one, either.

Remember what Carl and Herm did with/to Trent Green?

[the Talking Can]

the silence on this would make Stalin proud

[CupidStunt]

Sometimes, the faster you hire a coach, the faster you screw your football team for 5 years. You're just angst-ridden because you don't know what's going on.

Right. A turd like Mangini or a couple weeks of searching? Know what I'd prefer.

[penguinz]

Friday is the optimum day to can someone. Shoot for tomorrow? Or Fri after next? Or.... Sometime, man!No it is not. It is best to do so early in the week that way the person does not just go home and have to think about it all weekend when they can not do much about.

All this accomplishes is making the person more miserable as well as their family.

Can them early in the week and they have time to start the process of finding new employment.

[JuicesFlowing]

Rooney! Ferris! Let's just not have a coach next season.

[Chiefshrink]

Schefter is often right when he is talking about the Broncos. He said McDaniels was the guy the Broncos wanted weeks before we hired him. He is the most reputable source when it comes to the NFL IMO.

With all due respect, Schefter is only as good as his sources for each individual team. Teams play the media as well (when it serves their interests)and this is what is going on right now. I damn guarantee you Pioli and Shanny have talked. Who do you think the other team is that Kyle was talking about? Dallas? I still say Jerry is going to clean house. I bet Clark and Jerry are bidding for Shanny's services right now as we speak.

[Zouk]

Sometimes, the faster you hire a coach, the faster you screw your football team for 5 years. You're just angst-ridden because you don't know what's going on.

I'm really not angst ridden. I agree with you about taking the time to hire the coach, it's the not firing Herm part that confuses me. If he's the guy (and I still think this is very very unlikely) you should know by now. And if he's not, you should start the process of finding the right guy so you can take your time with it, like you said.

[Coogs]

Assuming Herm is gone (which I do), what is the delay in firing him buying Pioli and the Chiefs? It must be something, but who knows what it is. One theory I don't buy is that he is seriously considering retaining Herm. If that was the case, I think the announcement would have been made. The only thing I can think of is that Clark is trying to get out of paying Herm's contract. Don't really buy that one, either.


I think Pioli is getting answers from Herm on how and why things were done the way they were done on almost every single item over the past 3 seasons. No reason to part with Herm until he has the answers he wants, and has those answers checked out to see if they match up for accountability from all parties involved.

Once they get there, we will probably know who is going to be retained or not retained right down to the ticket sales people.

[DrRyan]

Sooner or later we will get the answer. I don't care how long the answer takes just as long as Herm is gone when the answer comes down.

[HemiEd]

Sometimes, the faster you hire a coach, the faster you screw your football team for 5 years. You're just angst-ridden because you don't know what's going on.

Yeah, this is the polar opposite approach, than Carl always took, hiring a friend. We have a lot of change to get used to.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I think Pioli is getting answers from Herm on how and why things were done the way they were done on almost every single item over the past 3 seasons. No reason to part with Herm until he has the answers he wants, and has those answers checked out to see if they match up for accountability from all parties involved.

Once they get there, we will probably know who is going to be retained or not retained right down to the ticket sales people.

makes sense, but if Pie--Hole--e is stupid enough to let Herm twist this to his favor and keeps his job, Lord help us all.

[Coogs]

Sooner or later we will get the answer. I don't care how long the answer takes just as long as Herm is gone when the answer comes down.

I wanted a youth movement a long time ago. I am very thankful that this past season took place. And if it turns out tha CP was the one who actually forced Herm to have clowns like Gun and Krumrine on his staff, then I wouldn't be opposed to Herm actually getting a chance to finish what he was bold enough to start with the people in place that he wants to see the thing through.

On the other hand, a fresh start from top to bottom is very appealing to me as well.

[Coogs]

makes sense, but if Pie--Hole--e is stupid enough to let Herm twist this to his favor and keeps his job, Lord help us all.

I would bet Pioli is double checking every single item. I would say accountability is very high on his list of priorities.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WON’T LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m.
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that there’s no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahan’s spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he can’t be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/22/schefter-shanahan-wont-land-in-kansas-city/

EDIT**

From Schefter's own BLOG

CHIEFS HAVE NOT CONTACTED SHANAHAN

Nearly a month after the season, the Chiefs still have not made a coaching change. Mike Shanahan still does not have a job.

Thus, in the past 24 hours, like a virus that has spread, some have concluded that Kansas City is pursuing Shanahan and he could be the Chiefs next head coach.

Time to squash that rumor. As of mid-day Thursday, the Chiefs and Shanahan have not had any contact. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And yet within the past hour, I’ve gotten a half-dozen calls and emails from various Kansas City and Denver media outlets, asking if there is any truth to the rumor that the Chiefs and Shanahan are talking.

No, there is not. There is no truth to the rumor. Chiefs officials are at the Senior Bowl and Shanahan just finished a morning run on the treadmill.

The Chiefs coaching mystery continues — minus Shanahan.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/22/chiefs-have-not-contacted-shanahan/

Shafter,

If you are shitting me at the behest of the RAT, I am going Neeson on your ass.
I will find you, and I will kill you.

[Wilson8]

Not sure if sportscaster Jack Harry had any credibility before, but he has to have a lot less today. Yesterday on 810 radio, Kevin Keitzman and Jack got into disagreement where Jack said Kansas City had to go out and get a coach like Mike Shanahan. Jack did not see any reason why the Chiefs would go find a new coach that did not have the experience that a Mike Shanahan would bring to Kansas City. Jack Harry seemed to get upset with Kevin for disagreeing and was very adamant that Shanahan was what the Chiefs needed. Later that night I read on this site that Jack was saying Mike Shanahan was coming to the Chiefs. Now this story shows up. So is this a case of wanting something so bad that you make up a story or did Jack Harry actually have a source that played him?

[Bugeater]

Not sure if sportscaster Jack Harry had any credibility before, but he has to have a lot less today. Yesterday on 810 radio, Kevin Keitzman and Jack got into disagreement where Jack said Kansas City had to go out and get a coach like Mike Shanahan. Jack did not see any reason why the Chiefs would go find a new coach that did not have the experience that a Mike Shanahan would bring to Kansas City. Jack Harry seemed to get upset with Kevin for disagreeing and was very adamant that Shanahan was what the Chiefs needed. Later that night I read on this site that Jack was saying Mike Shanahan was coming to the Chiefs. Now this story shows up. So is this a case of wanting something so bad that you make up a story or did Jack Harry actually have a source that played him?

Garcia probably called his show.

[kcfanintitanhell]

Let me offer a disturbing worst-case scenario-
What if it turns out Scott Pioli had a serious drinking problem 10 or so years ago and has been clean and sober since then?
He signs this huge contract and falls off the wagon, and nobody even knows where the hell he is at the moment, not to mention the past 10 days.
I'm sure it's not the case, but it might make for a good screenplay.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

don't look at me, I don't even want the son of a bitch here.

LMAO:LOL:

"Take your coach, please"!

[Manila-Chief]

I think Herm will continue to be the coach. My evidence is the article in the Star about Gun going to Detroit. It revealed that the reason for his failure is because it was Herm's defense. Therefore, Pioli/Herm let Gun escape because Herm needs his own DC.

Now, I think Herm's philosophy is the reason Gun failed. That makes Herm a very bad coach. He should be the one that goes and quickly.

I will not be surprised if Gun does not have a good defense for the Lions.

[Reerun_KC]

I think Herm will continue to be the coach. My evidence is the article in the Star about Gun going to Detroit. It revealed that the reason for his failure is because it was Herm's defense. Therefore, Pioli/Herm let Gun escape because Herm needs his own DC.

Now, I think Herm's philosophy is the reason Gun failed. That makes Herm a very bad coach. He should be the one that goes and quickly.

I will not be surprised if Gun does not have a good defense for the Lions.I cant see Pioli starting his first GM position with a strike against him for endorsing FAIL....

[Messier]

I think Herm will continue to be the coach. My evidence is the article in the Star about Gun going to Detroit. It revealed that the reason for his failure is because it was Herm's defense. Therefore, Pioli/Herm let Gun escape because Herm needs his own DC.

Now, I think Herm's philosophy is the reason Gun failed. That makes Herm a very bad coach. He should be the one that goes and quickly.

I will not be surprised if Gun does not have a good defense for the Lions.


I think if Herm were still the Chiefs coach he would be be more in the public eye. Is he actively hiring new assistant coaches? He in a non factor, so it seems right now, I can't see a presser in the next few weeks that herm has been retained. And to that point i think that if Herm were to remain the Chiefs coach it would have been announced already.

[keg in kc]

Ithe reason for his failure is because it was Herm's defense. Therefore, Pioli/Herm let Gun escape because Herm needs his own DC.Gun was Herm's own DC. Love him or hate him, Carl always gave his head coaches full autonomy when it came to filling out their coaching staffs. Herm interviewed Gun for the DC position with the Jets in '04 and he made the decision to keep him here in '06.Now, I think Herm's philosophy is the reason Gun failed. That makes Herm a very bad coach. He should be the one that goes and quickly.

I will not be surprised if Gun does not have a good defense for the Lions.I don't agree with either of those statements, but, hey, that's the nice thing about having opinions - there ain't no right or wrong.I think Herm will continue to be the coach.The coaching staff are like rats fleeing a sinking ship. I can't imagine why, if Herm was staying, the entire body of assistant coaches would be allowed to go, as is apparently the case. I think it would be next to impossible to attract incoming assistants with a situation like this. And if not, you'd think we would have hired a replacement for any of the vacant positions.

I think it points towards Herm leaving, and my guess is still that it involves a coach either involved with the Super Bowl, or with one of the championship games last weekend. Or at least that there are individuals on their list involved in those games, and they aren't going to make their final decision until they interview them all.

I believe they have been interviewing candidates for the job, that we (and the media) just don't know anything about it. Because that would be exactly in line with how they handled the Pioli hire. Folks need to remember that the days of leaks from the organization and a loose-lipped PR staff went out the door with Carl. They let out what they want to let out, and right now that's nothing.

Just a guess, of course...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Gun was Herm's own DC. Love him or hate him, Carl always gave his head coaches full autonomy when it came to filling out their coaching staffs. Herm interviewed Gun for the DC position with the Jets in '04 and he made the decision to keep him here in '06.I don't agree with either of those statements, but, hey, that's the nice thing about having opinions - there ain't no right or wrong.The coaching staff are like rats fleeing a sinking ship. I can't imagine why, if Herm was staying, the entire body of assistant coaches would be allowed to go, as is apparently the case. I think it would be next to impossible to attract incoming assistants with a situation like this. And if not, you'd think we would have hired a replacement for any of the vacant positions.

I think it points towards Herm leaving, and my guess is still that it involves a coach either involved with the Super Bowl, or with one of the championship games last weekend. Or at least that there are individuals on their list involved in those games, and they aren't going to make their final decision until they interview them all.

I believe they have been interviewing candidates for the job, that we (and the media) just don't know anything about it. Because that would be exactly in line with how they handled the Pioli hire. Folks need to remember that the days of leaks from the organization and a loose-lipped PR staff went out the door with Carl. They let out what they want to let out, and right now that's nothing.

Just a guess, of course...

Cordoba!

[Reerun_KC]

Cordoba!

:cuss:

I think it is time for a neg rep party...

[keg in kc]

Somebody'll have to explain that one to me.

[doomy3]

:cuss:

I think it is time for a neg rep party...

This may be the only time I've ever agreed with you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Somebody'll have to explain that one to me.

It's my substitute for "this".

[DaWolf]

I think it points towards Herm leaving, and my guess is still that it involves a coach either involved with the Super Bowl, or with one of the championship games last weekend. Or at least that there are individuals on their list involved in those games, and they aren't going to make their final decision until they interview them all.

I believe they have been interviewing candidates for the job, that we (and the media) just don't know anything about it. Because that would be exactly in line with how they handled the Pioli hire. Folks need to remember that the days of leaks from the organization and a loose-lipped PR staff went out the door with Carl. They let out what they want to let out, and right now that's nothing.

Just a guess, of course...

I just don't get why they haven't canned Herm if the decision has been made to hire someone else and are interviewing others. It doesn't strike me as Hunt or Pioli's style to interview candidates with a head coach still employed.

My fear is that what's really happening is that they're planning on keeping Herm around, and are actually talking contract extension and team philosophy with Herm, which is why this is taking so long.

It would also explain why they blocked the Lions from speaking to Gun at first, until Gun went to them and asked if he could go coach for Schwartz. They didn't want to keep Gun here against his desires and figured they could probably find a better fit, so they let him go. Priefer was probably going to be let go anyway as our ST's sucked so he was allowed to leave. And Gibbs probably wanted to coach with his dad so they let him go.

If Herm is not canned by tomorrow, I suspect he is going to be back, and for more than one year...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

:cuss:

I think it is time for a neg rep party...

LMAO

[keg in kc]

I just don't get why they haven't canned Herm if the decision has been made to hire someone else and are interviewing others. It doesn't strike me as Hunt or Pioli's style to interview candidates with a head coach still employed.

My fear is that what's really happening is that they're planning on keeping Herm around, and are actually talking contract extension and team philosophy with Herm, which is why this is taking so long.

It would also explain why they blocked the Lions from speaking to Gun at first, until Gun went to them and asked if he could go coach for Schwartz. They didn't want to keep Gun here against his desires and figured they could probably find a better fit, so they let him go. Priefer was probably going to be let go anyway as our ST's sucked so he was allowed to leave. And Gibbs probably wanted to coach with his dad so they let him go.

If Herm is not canned by tomorrow, I suspect he is going to be back, and for more than one year...One thoery is as good as another when we have no info.

I think they're doing exactly what they said they'd do, and that's being methodical. We're used to hearing about everything going on behind the scenes, and I think we have a perception that if we don't hear about something happening, then nothing's happening. There really weren't many secrets or surprises when Carl was in charge; everything was predictable, and everything was leaked ahead of time. And I don't think that's the case now.

It's hard to be patient when other teams are making moves, and we're used to getting burned, as fans, so it's pretty easy to resign to the idea of Herm staying. And, hey, that could be what's happening. But it would make so little sense that I have a hard time buying it. Maybe I'm just overly optimistic.

[cdcox]

I just don't get why they haven't canned Herm if the decision has been made to hire someone else and are interviewing others. It doesn't strike me as Hunt or Pioli's style to interview candidates with a head coach still employed.

My fear is that what's really happening is that they're planning on keeping Herm around, and are actually talking contract extension and team philosophy with Herm, which is why this is taking so long.

It would also explain why they blocked the Lions from speaking to Gun at first, until Gun went to them and asked if he could go coach for Schwartz. They didn't want to keep Gun here against his desires and figured they could probably find a better fit, so they let him go. Priefer was probably going to be let go anyway as our ST's sucked so he was allowed to leave. And Gibbs probably wanted to coach with his dad so they let him go.

If Herm is not canned by tomorrow, I suspect he is going to be back, and for more than one year...

That's the best presented "story" that argues for Herm staying that I've read. I think he's out, but this is at least plausible. rep.

[Messier]

I just don't get why they haven't canned Herm if the decision has been made to hire someone else and are interviewing others. It doesn't strike me as Hunt or Pioli's style to interview candidates with a head coach still employed.

My fear is that what's really happening is that they're planning on keeping Herm around, and are actually talking contract extension and team philosophy with Herm, which is why this is taking so long.

It would also explain why they blocked the Lions from speaking to Gun at first, until Gun went to them and asked if he could go coach for Schwartz. They didn't want to keep Gun here against his desires and figured they could probably find a better fit, so they let him go. Priefer was probably going to be let go anyway as our ST's sucked so he was allowed to leave. And Gibbs probably wanted to coach with his dad so they let him go.

If Herm is not canned by tomorrow, I suspect he is going to be back, and for more than one year...



If that were the case, they wouldn't need to wait to announce herm is staying. He's already under contract, an extension could just be quietly worked out after the announcement. I'm of the belief that the longer this goes on the less likely Herm is staying.

[DeezNutz]

I'm of the belief that the longer this goes on the less likely Herm is staying.

I think every single angle on this matter has now officially been expressed.

I hadn't heard the "longer he's here, worse it is for Herm" take, yet.

[Messier]

I think every single angle on this matter has now officially been expressed.

I hadn't heard the "longer he's here, worse it is for Herm" take, yet.


Well, if Herm is the coach next season they have to announce it the same as they would if they hired a new coach, even if it's just a little press release. Pioli has already interviewed Herm about a week ago. He knows all he needs to know from Herm. So why wait? If it isn't announced this week that the Chiefs are retaining Herm I don't believe Herm is the coach.

[FringeNC]

I just don't get why they haven't canned Herm if the decision has been made to hire someone else and are interviewing others. It doesn't strike me as Hunt or Pioli's style to interview candidates with a head coach still employed.

My fear is that what's really happening is that they're planning on keeping Herm around, and are actually talking contract extension and team philosophy with Herm, which is why this is taking so long.

It would also explain why they blocked the Lions from speaking to Gun at first, until Gun went to them and asked if he could go coach for Schwartz. They didn't want to keep Gun here against his desires and figured they could probably find a better fit, so they let him go. Priefer was probably going to be let go anyway as our ST's sucked so he was allowed to leave. And Gibbs probably wanted to coach with his dad so they let him go.

If Herm is not canned by tomorrow, I suspect he is going to be back, and for more than one year...

I find it hard to believe that Pioli thinks Herm is a good coach.