ChiefsPlanet's dumbasses are smarter than WPI's dumbasses

[OnTheWarpath15]

If these posts aren't the epitome of True Fan, I don't know what is.

COMEDY GOLD.

Enjoy.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=3906318

Sure your are talking a lot of money here with these four and you never know who is going to be Fran. by their team.

But lets have a little fun say the are all 4 out there! You bring all four in on the same day and same time and lay it down to them! SUPER BOWL that is the bottom line.

$37,410,425 under the cap

CUT
CB Patrick Surtain
LB Donnie Edwards
OT Damion McIntosh
DL Alfonso Boone

Saves $5,839,000 cap room

Room under the cap in 2009 $43,249,425


Now all these are based on 4 year deals because the math was easy to do then
5 year and 6 year deals.


Jordan Gross Tackle
4 year deal $20,550,000 SB $8,250,000
1 base $1,330,000 cap $3,832,000
2 base $ 2,335,000 cap $4,717,000
3 base $4,485,000 cap $5,584,000
4 base $ 6,150,000 cap $8,880,000

Terrell Suggs LB
4 year $20,550,000 SB 8,250,000
1 base $ 6,150,000 cap $8,880,000
2 base $ 2,335,000 cap $ 4,717,090
3 base $ 5,150,000 cap $7,500,000
4 base $665,000 cap $ 1,916,100

Julius Peppers DE
4 year $40,000,000 SB $16,000,000
1 base $1,330,000 cap $15,000,000
2 base $4,670,000 cap $9,434,000
3 base $10,300,00 cap $3,832,000
4 base $12,300,000 cap $17,760,000


Albert Haynesworth DT
4 year $20,550,000 SB 10,000000
1 base $1,995,000 cap $6,685,000
2 base $ $4,670,000 cap $10,277,000
3 base $5,150,000 cap $8,437,000
4 base $6,150,000 cap $5,485,500

You lock up a LT, DE, DT, LB for the next 4 years

Cap increase with these four players over the next 4 years
2009 $34,397,000 cap balance $8,852,000
2010 $33,308,000
2011 $25,353,000
2012 $34,041,000

In 2011/2012 Waters and TG will be done so u will be saving a lot


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=3907135


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[kstater]

LMAO

$9 million to sign EVERY draft pick? Including the #3 pick?

[BigVE]

Eh, sounds alot like some of stuff I've been reading here lately.

[eazyb81]

I found out a few days ago that a friend of mine has been a WPI subscriber for a year or two now.

I immediately deleted his number from my cell phone.

[cdcox]

I found out a few days ago that a friend of mine has been a WPI subscriber for a year or two now.

I immediately deleted his number from my cell phone.

You claim a WPI subscriber as a friend? Welcome to my ignore list.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Eh, sounds alot like some of stuff I've been reading here lately.

I've yet to hear ANYONE here suggest that we could sign Haynesworth, Suggs, Peppers AND Gross.

That post embarrassed Terri Schiavo, FFS.

(That was for you, Hamas...)

[the Talking Can]

that's your brain on "just football talk"......

[Skip Towne]

I found out a few days ago that a friend of mine has been a WPI subscriber for a year or two now.

I immediately deleted his number from my cell phone.

Did you make fun of him first?

[OnTheWarpath15]

LMAO

$9 million to sign EVERY draft pick? Including the #3 pick?

I'm more impressed with the signing bonuses.

He has $26M wrapped up in Haynesworth, Suggs and Gross.

Haynesworth will get more than that on his own...

[Bowser]

Christ. Makes me want to get into genetics so I can splice a better human, Gattaca style.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Christ. Makes me want to get into genetics so I can splice a better human, Gattaca style.

LMAO

[Bearcat]

Can we get Hugh Douglas with the money left over? LMAO Who knows, maybe Willie Roaf will come out of retirement, too.

[eazyb81]

You claim a WPI subscriber as a friend? Welcome to my ignore list.


He hid it from me, but now he's tainted, and no, he's no longer a friend. In fact he's now a bitter enemy.

[eazyb81]

Did you make fun of him first?

No, I just shook my head in disgust and walked away as fast as I could.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm surprised some of those stupid fuckers can turn on a computer - let alone click the icons to get on the internet.

[blueballs]

Athan steals money form 8th graders

[RJ]

After we sign those guys I say we trade Croyle to the Falcons for Matt Ryan. With Thigpen starting and Ryan as his backup we'll be set at quarterback for the next few years.

[DeezNutz]

We should send Denver our 2nd round pick in exchange for Cutler.

Because McDaniels will want to bring Cassel to Denver, making Jay expendable.

[Bearcat]

After we sign those guys I say we trade Croyle to the Falcons for Matt Ryan. With Thigpen starting and Ryan as his backup we'll be set at quarterback for the next few years.

Ryan could really learn a lot in that role, and if Thiggy ever gets hurt, Ryan won't miss a beat since he'll have Bowe, Boldin, Gonzo, and Lynn Swann to throw to.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We should send Denver our 2nd round pick in exchange for Cutler.

Because McDaniels will want to bring Cassel to Denver, making Jay expendable.

That's way too much...

<s>He's not worth more than a 4th.</s>

EDIT: For a guy that won't be able to beat out Tyler Thigpen.

[DeezNutz]

That's way too much.

He's not worth more than a 4th.

My fault.

I should have known this since he's only marginally better than Stafford and Sanchez, who are both 6th-round talents.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Ryan could really learn a lot in that role, and if Thiggy ever gets hurt, Ryan won't miss a beat since he'll have Bowe, Boldin, Gonzo, and Lynn Swann to throw to.

WE'RE TRADING FOR LYNN SWANN!

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[Delano]

Keep an eye on the tally for Quinn Gray in the poll. We'll know if KCJohnny is a subscriber if any votes show up.

[Crush]

I wonder if they shit their pants like true retards.

[DeezNutz]

Keep an eye on the tally for Quinn Gray in the poll. We'll know if KCJohnny is a subscriber if any votes show up.

Nice avi.

Did anyone ever figure out what the fuck that was all about? It's simultaneously one of the funnier and scarier images that I've seen in some time.

[cdcox]

My fault.

I should have known this since he's only marginally better than Stafford and Sanchez, who are both 6th-round talents.

Which one of these guys could be converted to fullback? That's the guy we should take, so there is a fall back position when they bust.

[DeezNutz]

Which one of these guys could be converted to fullback? That's the guy we should take, so there is a fall back position when they bust.

Yet another reason why firing Herm was a mistake.

He showed a knack for being able to fill this position.

[Crush]

Which one of these guys could be converted to fullback? That's the guy we should take, so there is a fall back position when they bust.


Fuck that. We need a backup punter. Will someone please think of the field position?

[FAX]

Yet another reason why firing Herm was a mistake.

He showed a knack for being able to fill this position.

Speaking of Herm's knack with fullbacks, I wonder where Boomer is these days. I hope he found a gig somewhere.

And, while we're on the subject, just a quick shout-out to Herm. "Hey Herm! I'm gettin' over it!"

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

Speaking of Herm's knack with fullbacks, I wonder where Boomer is these days. I hope he found a gig somewhere.

And, while we're on the subject, just a quick shout-out to Herm. "Hey Herm! I'm gettin' over it!"

FAX

Not to hijack my own thread, but did you get anywhere with Scout?

It looks like that fucktard mod is no longer a mod - or isn't listed as one...

[DeezNutz]

Speaking of Herm's knack with fullbacks, I wonder where Boomer is these days. I hope he found a gig somewhere.

And, while we're on the subject, just a quick shout-out to Herm. "Hey Herm! I'm gettin' over it!"

FAX

Last I heard, Mr. Fax, Boomer was hosting wet t-shirt contests in the Keys. Allen is still his wingman, but he remains committed to the O'Doul's, I'm sure.

[FAX]

Not to hijack my own thread, but did you get anywhere with Scout?

It looks like that ****tard mod is no longer a mod - or isn't listed as one...

It's a work in progress, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I'm told by supreme powers in the hierarchy that satisfaction is forthcoming. We shall see. If I am dissatisfied by next Friday, I shall escalate Project Anti-Dumbass.

Meanwhile, I have suggested that the WPI fools all go watch "Taken" with Liam Neeson and try their best to identify with the Albanians.

FAX

[FAX]

Last I heard, Mr. Fax, Boomer was hosting wet t-shirt contests in the Keys. Allen is still his wingman, but he remains committed to the O'Doul's, I'm sure.

I was hoping that he was playing linebacker somewhere - Canada, maybe. I liked Boomer. Not much of a talent, but had a great attitude.

FAX

[DeezNutz]

I was hoping that he was playing linebacker somewhere - Canada, maybe. I liked Boomer. Not much of a talent, but had a great attitude.

FAX

I agree that he seemed like a good kid, and it would be nice to see him catch on.

Unfortunately, after being released early in the year with Miami, he's still listed as a FA, so my little narrative might be closer to true than we might otherwise like.

[DaFace]

I'm seriously getting tired of hearing about WPI. Can't we start feuding with the Coalition or something instead?

[Psyko Tek]

I'm surprised some of those stupid fuckers can turn on a computer - let alone click the icons to get on the internet.

you know I miss DOS
that's when it took some braincells to run a puter,
now it's point and click plug and play

way to easy

damn I'm old

uphill both ways in the sonw

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm seriously getting tired of hearing about WPI. Can't we start feuding with the Coalition or something instead?

No, because there are some really good guys over there, even if the football takes are generally homerific.

I'm sure it will settle down once Mr. Fax and FMB get their satisfaction.

[FAX]

I'm seriously getting tired of hearing about WPI. Can't we start feuding with the Coalition or something instead?

I'm certain that the Allied powers got tired of hearing about the Nazis too, Mr. DaFace. But, did they get bored and start fighting the Peruvians instead? Did they cancel D-Day because that whole Axis thing was old news? Did they turn their attention to origami and crocheting mittens because deciphering Japanese codes became blase? No sir. They did not. They saw the battle through until the last of the enemy either surrendered unconditionally or bled out on the field. And so shall I.

FAX

[Crush]

I'm certain that the Allied powers got tired of hearing about the Nazis too, Mr. DaFace. But, did they get bored and start fighting the Peruvians instead? Did they cancel D-Day because that whole Axis thing was old news? Did they turn their attention to origami and crocheting mittens because deciphering Japanese codes became blase? No sir. They did not. They saw the battle through until the last of the enemy either surrendered unconditionally or bled out on the field. And so shall I.

FAX


Yep, we can not let this issue go. Those bastards are a collective throne in the embodiment of everything that is right in the world.

[T-post Tom]

I'm certain that the Allied powers got tired of hearing about the Nazis too, Mr. DaFace. But, did they get bored and start fighting the Peruvians instead? Did they cancel D-Day because that whole Axis thing was old news? Did they turn their attention to origami and crocheting mittens because deciphering Japanese codes became blase? No sir. They did not. They saw the battle through until the last of the enemy either surrendered unconditionally or bled out on the field. And so shall I.

FAX

That's damn right! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:
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[DeezNutz]

Yep, we can not let this issue go. Those bastards are a collective throne in the embodiment of everything that is right in the world.

If you wanna crown their ass, Crush, you crown 'em.

But I'll yank that throne right out from under those True Fans and kick them square in the tooth.

[Bearcat]

It's a topsy-turvy world and maybe the problems of two message boards don't amount to a hill of beans, but this is our hill, and these are our beans!

[Crush]

If you wanna crown their ass, Crush, you crown 'em.

But I'll yank that throne right out from under those True Fans and kick them square in the tooth.


WE LET THEM OFF THE HOOK!!!

[Mecca]

There's a poll on the coalition for the QB thing with the exact same option and Thigpen has over 100 votes while no one else has more than 20.

[FAX]

I guess it's Thiggy then. Oh well, that should make Gonzo happy.

Thiggy, Thiggy, you're our man.
If you can't throw the 15-yard-out halfway up the stands and 30 feet beyond the endzone pylon, no one can.

FAX

[Mecca]

I'm just glad to see a good number of people realize what Thigpen is, there was a time when it seemed that saying he wasn't the guy was the minority.

[stevieray]

"....the world needs wannabes.."

[OnTheWarpath15]

I guess it's Thiggy then. Oh well, that should make Gonzo happy.

Thiggy, Thiggy, you're our man.
If you can't throw the 15-yard-out halfway up the stands and 30 feet beyond the endzone pylon, no one can.

FAX

No one underthrows the deep ball or throws the "sideline go" out of bounds quite like Thigpen.

[DeezNutz]

I'm just glad to see a good number of people realize what Thigpen is, there was a time when it seemed that saying he wasn't the guy was the minority.

In some ways I still think that we are the minority.

It's just that we've effectively chastised the True Fans into silent disagreement.

[FAX]

You know, I'll bet that if Thiggy had a really good QB coach and adequate time to work on his skills and shortcomings, he might develop into something. He has the mentality to be a good quarterback.

FAX

[stevieray]

You know, I'll bet that if Thigpen had a really good QB coach and adequate time to work on his skills and shortcomings, he might develop into something. He has the mentality to be a good quarterback.

FAX

..and all the girlies say he's pretty fly...for a white guy.

[DeezNutz]

No one underthrows the deep ball or throws the "sideline go" out of bounds quite like Thigpen.

I'm going to use this moment to hijack this thread.

You think it's possible that Gailey stays on as assistant HC and quarterbacks coach?

Given the time frame and the fact that he's still here, it suggest Pioli at least has some respect for the guy, but I don't think Scott would "saddle" a HC with an OC. Too smart for that crap.

[Mecca]

You know, I'll bet that if Thiggy had a really good QB coach and adequate time to work on his skills and shortcomings, he might develop into something. He has the mentality to be a good quarterback.

FAX

People thought that about every talented spead QB that a 1st round pick was spent on....history says spread QB's will fail at supremely high rate.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm going to use this moment to hijack this thread.

You think it's possible that Gailey stays on as assistant HC and quarterbacks coach?

Given the time frame and the fact that he's still here, it suggest Pioli at least has some respect for the guy, but I don't think Scott would "saddle" a HC with an OC. Too smart for that crap.

Possible, though I hope not.

The guy has 30+ years of coaching experience, none of them directly coaching QB's - even though he played the position in college.

Pass.

[Mecca]

I really don't understand why this fan base thinks so well of Gailey...he was a failure in both his head coaching stints...

The Chiefs had a horrendously predictable offense where that was run run run or pass pass pass they never adjusted and got reamed in the 2nd halves of games.

[Hammock Parties]

Negative attention is better than no attention.

We're movin' on up.

[OnTheWarpath15]

People thought that about every talented spead QB that a 1st round pick was spent on....history says spread QB's will fail at supremely high rate.

Which is why it's baffling to me that people think next year's QB class is a good one, and that we should wait.

You have Jevan Snead and a bunch of spread monkeys, as you like to call them.

[FAX]

You know, I just thought of something. Clark Hunt has a lot of money so he could afford to buy or build a nightclub. Then, he could name it "The Clark Bar".

FAX

[JuicesFlowing]

2 votes for Croyle? Maybe in the Nerf Football League.

[Hammock Parties]

You know, I just thought of something. Clark Hunt has a lot of money so he could afford to buy or build a nightclub. Then, he could name it "The Clark Bar".

FAX

I have a feeling he calls something else his Clark Bar.

[DeezNutz]

Possible, though I hope not.

The guy has 30+ years of coaching experience, none of them directly coaching QB's - even though he played the position in college.

Pass.

Probably right and I don't particularly want any holdovers whatsoever from the previous regime. Let's start completely fresh.

Even more so than Gailey, I'm going to be unbelievably happy in the direction this team is headed when Mr. Handslappy is looking to relocate to Detroit.

[Mecca]

Which is why it's baffling to me that people think next year's QB class is a good one, and that we should wait.

You have Jevan Snead and a bunch of spread monkeys, as you like to call them.

The fact that anyone and I mean anyone thinks Jevan Snead is more than an ok NFL prospect blows my mind.

It would be like someone going "yo man Jake Locker we should get him"

[DeezNutz]

2 votes for Croyle? Maybe in the Nerf Football League.

He'd try to throw it too hard and separate his shoulder.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The fact that anyone and I mean anyone thinks Jevan Snead is more than an ok NFL prospect blows my mind.

It would be like someone going "yo man Jake Locker we should get him"

Agreed, though he is the only decent prospect that runs a pro-style offense.

Next year's class is beyond bad, unless you want to waste 3 years teaching these guys how to take drops and read defenses.

[Mecca]

Agreed, though he is the only decent prospect that runs a pro-style offense.

Next year's class is beyond bad, unless you want to waste 3 years teaching these guys how to take drops and read defenses.

I thought we were breaking some ground till I visited some other forums and saw something like 85% of them want to draft Michael Crabtree.

[Valiant]

WPI is just like cash4gold.com

They pray on the retarded/uneducated masses/elderly and steal their money..

[OnTheWarpath15]

WPI is just like cash4gold.com

They pray on the retarded/uneducated masses/elderly and steal their money..

Well, you have the "retarded" part right.

When this whole thing with Mr. Ban-stick started over there, there were people lining up to say that they know and admit they are paying for rumor and speculation.

They wear it like a badge of fucking honor.

[DeezNutz]

Well, you have the "retarded" part right.

When this whole thing with Mr. Ban-stick started over there, there were people lining up to say that they know and admit they are paying for rumor and speculation.

They wear it like a badge of ****ing honor.

More like the bloody vaginal pants from SuperBad.

That's not called getting pussy, son.

[big nasty kcnut]

Let loose the dogs of war. Destroy all of wpi.
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[cdcox]

When I try to go to WPI, Google Chrome flags it as a site hosting malware. Has WPI melted anyone's hard drive recently?

[TinyEvel]

What is this WPI thing you speak of?

[kstater]

What is this WPI thing you speak of?

Something about dissenting opinions being banned on the spot. Posts being edited to make the post look silly. Mr. FAX was banned on the spot despite being a previously paying member.

[MikeMaslowski]

CP popped my blogging cherry, I am a faithful guy. So lucky you CP, you get to wake up, roll over and look at my ugly face for the next 80 years.

WPI is like that ugly chick across the bar that you know you could hit, but you just stick with the slightly more attractive chick that you are bonin' now.

[Fritz88]

I found out a few days ago that a friend of mine has been a WPI subscriber for a year or two now.

I immediately deleted his number from my cell phone.

I killed my neighbor. He is a WPI junky.

[milkman]

I guess it's Thigpen then. Oh well, that should make Gonzo happy.

FAX

Why would it make Tony happy?

He won't be around to worry about who the Chiefs QB is after we trade him and LJ to the Eagles for their two first round picks.

[Mecca]

Why would it make Tony happy?

He won't be around to worry about who the Chiefs QB is after we trade him and LJ to the Eagles for their two first round picks.

I heard the deal is done.

[milkman]

FTR, dumbasses can be found everywhere, and some of you might find it surprising, but the All Knowing, All Powerful Gaz is one of them.


Neither of the top QB prospects seems like "franchise QB" material to me. Nor would I cough up the #3 pick for Cassel. No doubt I will draw considerable scorn for my position, but I would stick with Thigpen, dump Croyle & bring in a couple of FA QBs to spice up camp. But my plan [such as it is] would be to start Thigpen, barring a tremendous showing by one of the FA QBs or a stunningly dismal preformance by Thigpen.

Although our pass rush was truly dismal [bringing more that a few tears to my eyes], I do not consider any of the DEs worthy of the #3 pick. That's how it is for Chiefs fans, ennit? The Draft is loaded when we do not need a specific position & thin when we do. Or it IS loaded with talent & we take Todd Blackledge. Gah!

Sadly, the same is true for the Offensive Line. Our OL was better than the DL, but still way below what is required to succeed on the NFL. Still, this draft does not have an OLineman worthy of #3. We will have to augment both the OL & DL from later Rounds & FA.

That brings me to WR & LB. While it seems obvious [at least to me] that LB is considerably more needy than WR, the thought of Crabtree is intriguing.

Another valid possibility is Curry. We are in desperate need of LB help & I think that Curry is worth the #3 pick. Of course, the actual Defensive scheme for 2009 has not been set [since we do not yet have a DC], Curry can play in a 4-3 or 3-4 Defense.

As of now, I would favor Crabtree or Curry [with the dedicated Defense Homer in me leaning toward Curry]. That opinion [of course] will vacillate & waver as more information comes in.

Given the current state of our team, it is a bit sad to realize that we are still going to be a bad team for a couple of years. Too many holes, not enough fingers...

xoxo~
Gaz
Looking downstream with a mixture of excitement & despair.

[Lzen]

Well, I guess this explains how they get people to pay over $100 for a WPI subscription.

[Lzen]

FTR, dumbasses can be found everywhere, and some of you might find it surprising, but the All Knowing, All Powerful Gaz is one of them.

Awesome Gaz post. Although I don't agree about the QB part, at least he gives a well thought out, reasonable argument. I wish he would post more often.

[milkman]

Well, I guess this explains how they get people to pay over $100 for a WPI subscription.

The bigger question is, how the hell do any of these dumbasses have the wherewithall to earn $109.00?

I didn't know turning in cans for recycling paid that much.

[milkman]

Awesome Gaz post. Although I don't agree about the QB part, at least he gives a well thought out, reasonable argument. I wish he would post more often.

All of his posts (this one came from fatchatter) are all well thought out and reasonable, but the fact is, he is wrong on just about every point.

Come on, Crabtree or Curry at #3?

That is just stupid.

Crabtree isn't the same kind of talent as that Fitzgerald or calvin Johnson were coming out, and you don't draft a stongside cover backer that high.

[stevieray]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

[Lzen]

All of his posts (this one came from fatchatter) are all well thought out and reasonable, but the fact is, he is wrong on just about every point.

Come on, Crabtree or Curry at #3?

That is just stupid.

Crabtree isn't the same kind of talent as that Fitzgerald or calvin Johnson were coming out, and you don't draft a stongside cover backer that high.

I don't know who Curry is. But yeah, I don't agree on Crabtree at #3. While I do think that Crabtree could be a solid NFL WR, he is not a #3 pick.

[milkman]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

No, Gaz is not a dumbass, but this specific opinion is.

[stumppy]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

:thumb:

If the mods listed the words dumbass, stupid, ignorant, and idiot in the profanity filter there would be several posters who wouldn't be able to post a completed sentence.

[milkman]

:thumb:

If the mods listed the words dumbass, stupid, ignorant, and idiot in the profanity filter there would be several posters who wouldn't be able to post a completed sentence.

Yeah, okay.

It's also too bad that we don't have the technology to have an intelligence filter, because while I might not be able to complete a sentence, you would not have been able to post at all.

[chiefscafan]

Stroking your guys egos again LOL

Least over there they don't attack people.

[CrazyHorse]

If these posts aren't the epitome of True Fan, I don't know what is.

COMEDY GOLD.

Enjoy.

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I was neg repped for calling you a jackass a couple weeks ago. After watching your posts for a couple weeks, I have come to realize something. That guy was a jackass too.

I was also told you are one of the more respected posters here. To me you're a self righteous prick.

I dont get it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I was neg repped for calling you a jackass a couple weeks ago. After watching your posts for a couple weeks, I have come to realize something. That guy was a jackass too.

I was also told you are one of the more respected posters here. To me you're a self righteous prick.

I dont get it.

Thanks for telling me early in the day.

Now I have time to run to the store and pick up some Ambien, so I can get some sleep tonight.

[boogblaster]

Are we really going to get our Dumb-Fuk badges this year ... I've left room on me Special-Olympics jersey for it ...

[big nasty kcnut]

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[Skip Towne]

The Planet has higher quality dumbasses than WPI.

[The Franchise]

Stroking your guys egos again LOL

Least over there they don't attack people.

lol....are you kidding me? Go over there and tell them that you want Sanchez at #3 and see what they say to you.

[DaFace]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.

And I definitely don't get the obsession with WPI. It's starting to be a bit ridiculous.

[chiefscafan]

Stevieray good post

I'll put it this way guys we can't use what or how the chiefs have drafted in the past. Tendencies are thrown out this is a new regime. We don't know how we are gonna draft.


Sanchez? I for one am not sold on him but if you think he is a franchise qb you take him

Crabtree? He better be the next great WR if you are gonna take him that high

Curry? I don't know much but one again that high better be a cross of DT and LT

Maualuga? I know I misspelled it again if he is the second coming of ray lewis to high if not.
Stafford? Is he Elway two or Jeff George two for me a little too inconssistent but was that the receivers fault

OT? Who knows a RT this high

Trade down? This is a patriots manuver but is it a pioli and Haley one who knows

We don't know what they are gonna do so right now there are no dumb picks

[The Franchise]

Stevieray good post

I'll put it this way guys we can't use what or how the chiefs have drafted in the past. Tendencies are thrown out this is a new regime. We don't know how we are gonna draft.


Sanchez? I for one am not sold on him but if you thing he is a franchise qb you take him

Crabtree? He better be the next great WR if you are gonna take him that high

Curry? I don't know much but one again that high better be a cross of DT and LT

Maualuga? I know I misspelled it again if he is the second coming of ray lewis to high if not.
Stafford? Is he Elway two or Jeff George two for me a little too inconssistent but was that the receivers fault

OT? Who knows a RT this high

Trade down? This is a patriots manuver but is it a pioli and Haley one who knows

We don't know what they are gonna do so right now there are no dumb picks

There is a dumb pick though. The dumb pick would be grabbing an OT at #3 and moving Albert into play LG. You just wasted two picks and $75 million dollars.

And look.....trading down is fine for people who want to dream but I get tired of hearing the let's trade down argument that involves some retarded team trading up for no reason and giving us a whole bunch of picks.

[OnTheWarpath15]

There is a dumb pick though. The dumb pick would be grabbing an OT at #3 and moving Albert into play LG. You just wasted two picks and $75 million dollars.

And look.....trading down is fine for people who want to dream but I get tired of hearing the let's trade down argument that involves some retarded team trading up for no reason and giving us a whole bunch of picks.

Exactly.

Most of this could be avoided if people would only think before they post.

[chiefscafan]

I agree most trade scenarios I've posted are doable. I didn't say all I said most eagles do seen like a possibility. If crabtree wows them at workouts eagles may be desperate enough to trade up for him. We would have to get both firsts, but then again rams probably take him at two so who knows. It's gonna be hard to find a partner to trade with but if that is the route we decide to take I have trust pioli can do it.

[blueballs]

Claythan has fed and fed you the drug
now you're hooked and your brain is being eaten alive
WPI the internet zombie

[FAX]

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.

And I definitely don't get the obsession with WPI. It's starting to be a bit ridiculous.

I blame DC, Mr. DaFace. Over the course of the last year or two, debate in DC has devolved to little more than name calling - and the more nasty the insult, the better. That style has migrated over here. Sad, really. Planeteers always dissed other posters' opinions - at least ever since I started reading the board. But the quality of insult and debate has deteriorated dramatically.

As for WPI, I completely agree. Personally, and even though I have a serious problem with them, I don't bring them up. What's the point? I would, however, mention that WPI is brought to this board in the form of spam quite often and the mods have done nothing to end this practice. We've already had that conversation, so I understand why. Still, I think that's also part of the problem.

FAX

[kstater]

As for WPI, I completely agree. Personally, and even though I have a serious problem with them, I don't bring them up. What's the point? I would, however, mention that WPI is brought to this board in the form of spam quite often and the mods have done nothing to end this practice. We've already had that conversation, so I understand why. Still, I think that's also part of the problem.

FAX

Truthiness.

[DeezNutz]

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.

And I definitely don't get the obsession with WPI. It's starting to be a bit ridiculous.

I think it's because the Chiefs are finally in a position to land a franchise QB, and some are so excited about this possibility that their exuberance morphs into a sledge when others don't understand why they, too, should be equally thrilled.

It's tough love.

I say all this calms down after the draft.

[FAX]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

I do wish that posters could have differing viewpoints without someone immediately playing the "moron" card, Mr. stevieray. The Planet would, as a result, be more intellectually satisfying, I think.

Nevertheless, I remember my first post that had to do with my idea for an offensive scheme in a particular game. Someone (I don't remember who), bashed me mercilessly because he disagreed with my idea (which was excellent, by the way). Of course, that particular poster offered no plans of his own, but that's another story. I mention this to make the point that peeps have been slamming other peeps' opinions on this board for a very long time. It used to be done in better humor, however. I think that's what's changed.

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

I do wish that posters could have differing viewpoints without someone immediately playing the "moron" card, Mr. stevieray. The Planet would, as a result, be more intellectually satisfying, I think.

Nevertheless, I remember my first post that had to do with my idea for an offensive scheme in a particular game. Someone (I don't remember who), bashed me mercilessly because he disagreed with my idea (which was excellent, by the way). Of course, that particular poster offered no plans of his own, but that's another story. I mention this to make the point that peeps have been slamming other peeps' opinions on this board for a very long time. It used to be done in better humor, however. I think that's what's changed.

FAX

I think it used to be done in better humor, Mr. FAX, because people often had a well thought-out opinion, and could lay out and argue their case. It's pretty easy to respect someone's opinion when it's obvious they took the time to do some research and think it through. Arguments were laid out point by point, like an attorney would do for a jury. The endgame was often posters deciding to "agree to disagree."

Now, more often than not, the people that get bashed the hardest are the folks that make it painfully obvious they gave no thought whatsoever to their opinion before they posted it, or started a new thread about it when that exact topic is being discussed in several other threads at the exact same time.

[chiefscafan]

Ok so let me say this then

Certain chiefs fans don't want to give thigpen time to grow, but then you say you want to draft a franchise qb. But if you won't give the time to develop thigpen how do you expect to have the patience to develop sanchez or stafford?

If as OTW you need facts I can get them. I know there is a chance he could be the one a million guy that comes in and dominates. But let me tell you although rothesberger, flaco, and Ryan weren't dominant they had good teams. How do you know thigpen with a better d and o line couldn't do great as well.

Now I'm not saying pulling a croyle and giving him the starter position but add some competition and see what he could do. But at least give him a chance before calling him a bust.

[milkman]

Ok so let me say this then

Certain chiefs fans don't want to give thigpen time to grow, but then you say you want to draft a franchise qb. But if you won't give the time to develop thigpen how do you expect to have the patience to develop sanchez or stafford?

If as OTW you need facts I can get them. I know there is a chance he could be the one a million guy that comes in and dominates. But let me tell you although rothesberger, flaco, and Ryan weren't dominant they had good teams. How do you know thigpen with a better d and o line couldn't do great as well.

Now I'm not saying pulling a croyle and giving him the starter position but add some competition and see what he could do. But at least give him a chance before calling him a bust.

The reason that people have reservations about Thigpen is because how horrendously he played in the Atlanta game in a Pro Set.

You can not win in this league if you are limited to the spread because your QB can't adapt to a pro style offense.

Now it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a spread QB can adjust, however the only guys to do so far are Brees and Roesthlisberger.

Sanchez and Stafford have been playing in the pro set, so they are already ahead of the curve.

[CrazyHorse]

It could be argued that those that feel they are the begining and end of intelligent conversation are the stupid posters. How arrogant is that?

There are all types of people here. Every single one of them have the right to post. Whether it be a young person who knows little about football. Or someone who has an ultimate knowledge of football. If you cant get along with all levels then you need to find a place where you belong. Unleashing your lack of patients and inability to translate what's going on around you is a liability to this forum. I understand that after 20,000 posts that many here forget they are in a public forum. But the fact remains you are. You should try to remember that and remember that everyone has the right to voice thier opinion or participate in conversation and perhaps even learn something from that participation. Without being attacked or jumped on because they dont share the same opinion as the self proclaimed geniuses.

For the record, this was a well thought out post.

[smittysbar]

I'm still banned for nothing

[chiefscafan]

Ok I see your point but I don't think we should give up on him I think we should get a vet qb and develop thiggy. But I know I'm in the minority of this opinion . Yes he looked awful in Atlanta but that was his first game ever he got better. Yes it was in the spread but in NY he made some throws I haven't seen since Montana was a QB. I feel the kid has something. The debate is can he become a drop back passer I don't know that answer. I have this feeling that we are gonna get a good QB coach that can teach him how. I like the debate going on. I just feel it's too soon to declare him a bust.

[cdcox]

Ok so let me say this then

Certain chiefs fans don't want to give thigpen time to grow, but then you say you want to draft a franchise qb. But if you won't give the time to develop thigpen how do you expect to have the patience to develop sanchez or stafford?

If as OTW you need facts I can get them. I know there is a chance he could be the one a million guy that comes in and dominates. But let me tell you although rothesberger, flaco, and Ryan weren't dominant they had good teams. How do you know thigpen with a better d and o line couldn't do great as well.

Now I'm not saying pulling a croyle and giving him the starter position but add some competition and see what he could do. But at least give him a chance before calling him a bust.

He's not a bust. Right now he's a solid back up that you can win some games with when your starter goes down.

If Thigpen is going to develop beyond what he is now, he needs two years working with a great QB coach to fix his bad mechanics and (hopefully) improve his accuracy. It is not guaranteed that he'll be able to make those adjustments even if given the time. The odds are kind of long. There are guys in the draft who already have good mechanics and accuracy. They are going to need some development in other areas, but you know the mechanics and accuracy are already there. There chances of success are much higher.

There is no reason you couldn't take the first rounder and continue to develop Thigpen's mechanics. You'd have two chances of developing a franchise QB then. In this scenario, Thigpen doesn't get another chance unless the first rounder busts. But if the first rounder busts, you could re-evaluate Thigpen in a few games to see if his mechanics had developed enough to invest more time in. If not you have to go back to the draft and try again.

There is no magic formula. Those of us in favor of drafting a QB know we absolutely have to have a franchise QB and just want to make our chances as good as possible. You don't get a chance to grab a guy like Stafford or Sanchez every year. We want to strike while the chance is there, especially since there doesn't appear to be a compelling alternative at a position of need this year.

[milkman]

It could be argued that those that feel they are the begining and end of intelligent conversation are the stupid posters. How arrogant is that?

There are all types of people here. Every single one of them have the right to post. Whether it be a young person who knows little about football. Or someone who has an ultimate knowledge of football. If you cant get along with all levels then you need to find a place where you belong. Unleashing your lack of patients and inability to translate what's going on around you is a liability to this forum. I understand that after 20,000 posts that many here forget they are in a public forum. But the fact remains you are. You should try to remember that and remember that everyone has the right to voice thier opinion or participate in conversation and perhaps even learn something from that participation. Without being attacked or jumped on because they dont share the same opinion as the self proclaimed geniuses.

For the record, this was a well thought out post.

What you fail to understand is that this is the place where we belong because we have the freedom to bash.

If you are offended by the insults, then this is not the place for you.

[milkman]

He's not a bust. Right now he's a solid back up that you can win some games with when your starter goes down.

If Thigpen is going to develop beyond what he is now, he needs two years working with a great QB coach to fix his bad mechanics and (hopefully) improve his accuracy. It is not guaranteed that he'll be able to make those adjustments even if given the time. The odds are kind of long. There are guys in the draft who already have good mechanics and accuracy. They are going to need some development in other areas, but you know the mechanics and accuracy are already there. There chances of success are much higher.

There is no reason you couldn't take the first rounder and continue to develop Thigpen's mechanics. You'd have two chances of developing a franchise QB then. In this scenario, Thigpen doesn't get another chance unless the first rounder busts. But if the first rounder busts, you could re-evaluate Thigpen in a few games to see if his mechanics had developed enough to invest more time in. If not you have to go back to the draft and try again.

There is no magic formula. Those of us in favor of drafting a QB know we absolutely have to have a franchise QB and just want to make our chances as good as possible. You don't get a chance to grab a guy like Stafford or Sanchez every year. We want to strike while the chance is there, especially since there doesn't appear to be a compelling alternative at a position of need this year.

Well said.

[DeezNutz]

He's not a bust. Right now he's a solid back up that you can win some games with when your starter goes down.


Definitely not a bust, but...

Right now, he really isn't a solid back up because a team would completely have to alter its offense to give him a chance with his current skill set.

I hope he's able to develop into a solid #2, however.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm still banned for nothing

Me too.

It's interesting that people here don't get the issue between CP and WPI.

People here complain that someone with a different opinion get bashed, name-called, etc.

Have a different opinion over at WPI and you get banned.

[SAUTO]

Me too.

It's interesting that people here don't get the issue between CP and WPI.

People here complain that someone with a different opinion get bashed, name-called, etc.

Have a different opinion over at WPI and you get banned.

why go there then?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Definitely not a bust, but...

Right now, he really isn't a solid back up because a team would completely have to alter its offense to give him a chance with his current skill set.

I hope he's able to develop into a solid #2, however.

This.

[CrazyHorse]

What you fail to understand is that this is the place where we belong because we have the freedom to bash.

If you are offended by the insults, then this is not the place for you.


No, stupid. I was insulting you. Quit yer bitchin'.

[dirk digler]

damn, some you guys need to get over yourselves....this forum is becoming more like DC...the obssession with WPI, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree must be ganged up on and beatdown...that idea that if the Chiefs pick who you want makes you smart, and if they don't then they become the dumbasses...I don't get it, most everyone was slobbing over last years' draft, choices made by acoach that is gone, replaced by two of the best personnel guys in the league...yet everyone thinks they know which player they should pick, when in fact we have no clue which direction they are going , or which needs are on their prioroty list..

seems like people's personal needs are more important than the teams...

Gaz isn't a dumbass because he's not on your wave of opinion. he just looks at it differently.

Spot on Stevie.

[chiefscafan]

Cdcox thanks great answer I'm just not ready to say he's done bing a starting qb just yet,

[dirk digler]

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.


I agree with this to. I don't know where the "true fan" thought came from so I will just blame Mecca. :)

[OnTheWarpath15]

why go there then?

Until FMB had his issue over there, I hadn't.

I went over there to ask first hand why they feel the need to ban people for having a different opinion, and was banned myself. Just like Smitty, FMB and FAX were. NONE of us violated any rules or term of service. There just happens to be a couple of hothead mods over there that thought it would be easier to just ban us than give us an explanation.

[dirk digler]

Me too.

It's interesting that people here don't get the issue between CP and WPI.

People here complain that someone with a different opinion get bashed, name-called, etc.

Have a different opinion over at WPI and you get banned.

I am still banned too.

I wonder if Fax got his account restored?

[FAX]

I am still banned too.

I wonder if Fax got his account restored?

Apparently so. I hadn't checked before, but I just did and I can access the forum section which I couldn't do before.

Not that I'll ever go there again, of course.

All the objectives of Operation Anti-Dumbass have yet to be achieved, however. If we can't declare full victory by Friday, we'll escalate.

FAX

[dirk digler]

Apparently so. I hadn't checked before, but I just did and I can access the forum section which I couldn't do before.

Not that I'll ever go there again, of course.

All the objectives of Operation Anti-Dumbass have yet to be achieved, however. If we can't declare full victory by Friday, we'll escalate.

FAX

When Operation Anti-Dumbass is over will we get a briefing?

Congrats on getting your account restored I guess that makes you very special. :D

[FAX]

When Operation Anti-Dumbass is over will we get a briefing?

Congrats on getting your account restored I guess that makes you very special. :D

As for the first part, absolutely, Mr. dirk digler.

As for the second part, absolutely not. The only thing special about me is that it only took me two (2) posts to receive a ban. I think that's a record.

FAX

[chiefforlife]

As for the first part, absolutely, Mr. dirk digler.

As for the second part, absolutely not. The only thing special about me is that it only took me two (2) posts to receive a ban. I think that's a record.

FAX

FAX, your mailbox is full. Sir.

[Hammock Parties]

Have a different opinion over at WPI and you get banned.

Please, that's ridiculous.

[smittysbar]

Please, that's ridiculous.

I was banned just for saying that the mod went overboard when he edited a post to make the poster look stupid.

Sounds like bullshit to me

[007]

We don't need post examples from their idiocy. The fact that they pay a membership fee for that drivel is more than enough proof.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We don't need post examples from their idiocy. The fact that they pay a membership fee for that drivel is more than enough proof.

Excellent point.

[Mecca]

I agree with this to. I don't know where the "true fan" thought came from so I will just blame Mecca. :)

I'd love to take credit for that phrase...

I don't think anyone personally hates anyone else but when you have to explain something or have the same argument every single damn day and sometimes with the exact same people your patience starts wearing thin.

That doesn't even mention the huge number of people that will post an extremely uneducated draft take. If you can't take the 10 minutes out of your day before you post to read the rest of this board and use the lovely thing called the internet to learn and make an intelligent draft post why should I be nice to you?

[SAUTO]

I'd love to take credit for that phrase...

I don't think anyone personally hates anyone else but when you have to explain something or have the same argument every single damn day and sometimes with the exact same people your patience starts wearing thin.

That doesn't even mention the huge number of people that will post an extremely uneducated draft take. If you can't take the 10 minutes out of your day before you post to read the rest of this board and use the lovely thing called the internet to learn and make an intelligent draft post why should I be nice to you?

sometimes people just dont agree with you, hell lots of gms in the league dont. what makes your opnion mean more than anyone else's?

[Mecca]

Tell me how someone can logically argue to draft Aaron Curry based on simple study of draft trends.

[SAUTO]

Tell me how someone can logically argue to draft Aaron Curry based on simple study of draft trends.

see thats the thing sometimes trends dont matter. hell most draft gurus have the guy a top 5 prospect.

[Mecca]

And that is why they work on TV and not for NFL teams..it's widely known that OLB is not considered a valued position. It would be like arguing a TE is worth a top 5 pick, you can have the best one in the league but it won't be all that significant those players are nice pieces they aren't the cores of your team.

It's like the people who think we can just trade down like it's nothing and when you point out how rare that is you're met with some dumb argument like "the draft chart is dumb" which is absurd since all the teams use it.

[dirk digler]

I'd love to take credit for that phrase...

I don't think anyone personally hates anyone else but when you have to explain something or have the same argument every single damn day and sometimes with the exact same people your patience starts wearing thin.

That doesn't even mention the huge number of people that will post an extremely uneducated draft take. If you can't take the 10 minutes out of your day before you post to read the rest of this board and use the lovely thing called the internet to learn and make an intelligent draft post why should I be nice to you?

I understand getting frustrated arguing with the same people about the same shit all the time. I do it alot with some of the hermits in DC.

But everyone has an opinion and some are better than others just like last year when you kept arguing that Jake Long sucks but it turns out he did good and went to his first Pro Bowl. Those that you argued with would probably call you an idiot right now.

[Mecca]

I understand getting frustrated arguing with the same people about the same shit all the time. I do it alot with some of the hermits in DC.

But everyone has an opinion and some are better than others just like last year when you kept arguing that Jake Long sucks but it turns out he did good and went to his first Pro Bowl. Those that you argued with would probably call you an idiot right now.

Well they'd be wrong when LT's taken numerous picks after him were just as good...

I argued he wasn't worth a top 5 pick..I still stand by that.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm having difficulty adapting to Mecca's new avatar.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.

Glad to know that my thread was the equivalent of an article of secession

LMAO LMAO

[Mecca]

I'm having difficulty adapting to Mecca's new avatar.

Got use to Bert huh?

I should make one where Sanchez eats Thigpens head.

[SAUTO]

And that is why they work on TV and not for NFL teams..it's widely known that OLB is not considered a valued position. It would be like arguing a TE is worth a top 5 pick, you can have the best one in the league but it won't be all that significant those players are nice pieces they aren't the cores of your team.

It's like the people who think we can just trade down like it's nothing and when you point out how rare that is you're met with some dumb argument like "the draft chart is dumb" which is absurd since all the teams use it.

SOME of those experts could work for teams, they probably get paid more where they are at. and the draft chart isnt always followed to the letter

[dirk digler]

Well they'd be wrong when LT's taken numerous picks after him were just as good...

I argued he wasn't worth a top 5 pick..I still stand by that.

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

[Hammock Parties]

Got use to Bert huh?

I should make one where Sanchez eats Thigpens head.

I would be on board. Sanchez is pretty handsome, BTW. He could fuck half of Kansas City.

[Mecca]

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

I think it's pretty well acknowledged that Clady had just as good if not a better year and Albert was good this year too...

I don't think Long justified himself as being 12 picks better than the next OT drafted. To me all the OT's were similar that's why he wasn't worth that pick.

[dirk digler]

I think it's pretty well acknowledged that Clady had just as good if not a better year and Albert was good this year too...

I don't think Long justified himself as being 12 picks better than the next OT drafted. To me all the OT's were similar that's why he wasn't worth that pick.

That is fine it still is an opinion.

BTW I am just playing devils advocate and you haven't been mean to me for having a difference of opinion.

[Mecca]

That is fine it still is an opinion.

BTW I am just playing devils advocate and you haven't been mean to me for having a difference of opinion.

I only get nasty with people when they keep arguing the same thing for 2 months or they say something retarded like "the draft chart is dumb" that would be like a lawyer going "well I think this law is dumb"

Personally I think Eugene Monroe is a more complete prospect than Jake Long was.

[milkman]

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

[dirk digler]

I only get nasty with people when they keep arguing the same thing for 2 months or they say something retarded like "the draft chart is dumb" that would be like a lawyer going "well I think this law is dumb"

Personally I think Eugene Monroe is a more complete prospect than Jake Long was.

I would just ignore them after awhile and let their stupid statements speak for themselves

[SAUTO]

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

IMO long was the 1st pick because he was going to be easier to sign, cheaper, and the cornerstone for the oline. parcells likes line play and builds from that. and by most accounts long was ahead of the others drafted. now MM (i think) had albert, but most people were against him being a lt right? so basically when it comes to the draft it's a crapshoot.

[dirk digler]

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

I would agree with that. Like I said I was just playing devil's advocate though I did before the draft and still do think Long is a very tackle. I wanted to take Ryan though and was very happy with Dorsey.

[SAUTO]

I only get nasty with people when they keep arguing the same thing for 2 months or they say something retarded like "the draft chart is dumb" that would be like a lawyer going "well I think this law is dumb"

Personally I think Eugene Monroe is a more complete prospect than Jake Long was.

most trades dont match up totally with the chart, and i know some lawyers who think some laws ARE dumb, and have argued that in court

[FAX]

I am occasionally aware of the uneasy feeling that Mr. Mecca once endured an alien abduction and the little grey bastards broke out the Super-Studded Giant Probe for him.

FAX

[Hammock Parties]

This WPI post was pretty funny, IMO:

I stole LJ's car and as I drove away I found a check list sitting on the passenger seat and read it, LJ's got a busy little off season planned:

1. Record a new offensice rap song about my new GM. Make sure it is as bad a song as the last one.

2. Go to court for spitting a drink in some honey's face.

3. Maybe do time.

4. Introduce myself to new coach that won't take any $hit from me.

5. Buy fly rims.

6. Embarass my Penn State coaching father by having my name in the headlines for the wrong reasons again.

7. Spend all the money I have and all the money that I'm due in my contract.

Checklist for Season:

1. Stand at the end of the bench with my arms crossed and a scowl on my face.

2. Take half my plays off.

3. Blast my new coach for not using me the right way, like I did with Vermeil.

4. Get yelled at by said new coach in front of God and media.

5. Throw my new GM under the bus, for what? I dont know yet.

6. Spit drink in some honey's face.

7. Lose contract on morals clause issue.

8. Sign for league minimum following year in Cincinnati.

9. Retire in 2 years, Jay-Z no longer returning my calls.

10. File for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection a la Mike Vick.

11. Sell off all my assets.

12. Get middle school coaching Job in Pennsylvania.

13. Give local paper interview about how "getting back to basics" has totally turned my life around.

14. Spit drink in some honey's face.