Anyone Have Kyocera Ceramic Knives?

[Donger]

I'm tempted to pick up a set of these to replace my older Henckels:

http://www.kyoceraadvancedceramics.com/

Anyone have any of these? If so, comments would be welcome.

Thanks.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

no, but in general ceramic knives are VERY sharp, and you need to be attentive to that. They can and will cause SERIOUS damage if you are careless.

[Donger]

no, but in general ceramic knives are VERY sharp, and you need to be attentive to that. They can and will cause SERIOUS damage if you are careless.

Knives are supposed to be sharp. Have you used ceramic knives?

Perhaps I shouldn't have been so specific to the manufacturer.

[JimNasium]

I'd rather not drop that kind of coin on a knife. The guy on the infomercial can cut through cans and shoes and it only costs $19.95 and I get the Shamwow for free.

[StcChief]

I have not used, but have heard great things from a couple of friends who have them.
J.A. HENKELS

http://usa.jahenckels.com/index.php?simple_view=97 are great cutlery.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Knives are supposed to be sharp. Have you used ceramic knives?

Perhaps I shouldn't have been so specific to the manufacturer.

I have. Ceramics typically have a very sharp, almost scalpel-like edge. They also do not dull like steel, so where many people get used to having to really push a knife, you don't with ceramic, and people get hurt that way.

[Donger]

I'd rather not drop that kind of coin on a knife. The guy on the infomercial can cut through cans and shoes and it only costs $19.95 and I get the Shamwow for free.

I've discovered flank steak and I've become somewhat obsessed with slicing it extremely thin after taking it off the grill.

[Donger]

I have. Ceramics typically have a very sharp, almost scalpel-like edge. They also do not dull like steel, so where many people get used to having to really push a knife, you don't with ceramic, and people get hurt that way.

Excellent feedback. Thank you.

[JimNasium]

I've discovered flank steak and I've become somewhat obsessed with slicing it extremely thin after taking it off the grill.

Do you think a ceramic knife is going to cut through a can? My mom was into that whole ceramic thing when I was a kid. Trust me, there's nothing that my mom can make that can chop wood. This is what you need dumbass: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/abLB7aTmnE4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/abLB7aTmnE4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Donger]

Do you think a ceramic knife is going to cut through a can? My mom was into that whole ceramic thing when I was a kid. Trust me, there's nothing that my mom can make that can chop wood. This is what you need dumbass: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/abLB7aTmnE4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/abLB7aTmnE4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I have no desire to cut through cans.

[kstater]

How often do you have to ship those off to be sharpened?

[JimNasium]

I have no desire to cut through cans.

How about shoes? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnLBA4-XtgY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnLBA4-XtgY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Donger]

How about shoes? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnLBA4-XtgY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnLBA4-XtgY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

No, nor shoes. I think those knives are steel, anyway.

[JimNasium]

How often do you have to ship those off to be sharpened?

If you were to get a set of Ginsu knives you could simply buy multiple sets. I used one to chop down a tree in the back yard last fall.

[JimNasium]

No, nor shoes. I think those knives are steel, anyway.

What's your issue with steel? Do you have a carbon aversion?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I have no desire to cut through cans.

that's un-american or something

[tmax63]

Ceramics are extremely sharp but also extremely brittle. The blades don't flex (like a fillet knife would), they snap.

[Donger]

What's your issue with steel? Do you have a carbon aversion?

I'm iron-intolerant.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Ceramics are extremely sharp but also extremely brittle. The blades don't flex (like a fillet knife would), they snap.

this is true to a point. the tips will snap off of you drop it just right, or if you use it to pry on something, but they won't shatter if dropped or anything like that.

[kstater]

So...how long can you use them before shipping them off to be sharpened? I presume I can't use my normal knife sharpener.

[Fire Me Boy!]

They're pretty easy to chip. Personally, I stay away.

I've become a HUGE fan of Japanese steel. Two things: They use a harder steel than Western knives (like Wusthoff, Henckle's, etc.). They use the harder steel so they can sharpen at a lesser angle, making it so their knives can get physically sharper than other knives, and hold their edge as a Western knife would.

I love Tojiro blades from www.japanesechefsknife.com. They're not terribly expensive, but very good. A good 8-inch chef's knife is about $90.

Another place, which is a lot of fun because they're great knives and beautiful to look at are the knives at Watanabe Blade | http://watanabeblade.com/english/

I bought a left-handed set from Watanabe, and I've been very impressed. The santoku from them is sweet.

My brtoher bought me my first Japanese knife a few years ago for Christmas. I've never looked back, and bought a number of others.

[chiefforlife]

I do know that ceramic brake pads are better than semi metallic. No need to sharpen, either. Much less brake dust and very little brake noise.
I have never cooked with them.

[Dayze]

we recently dropped $140 on a 18 pc Chicago Cutlery set; wow. Very sharp.
Normally the set was $279, but after 30% off coupon, and store sale we got it for 1/2 price.

I would endorse Chicago Cutlery; very sharp; built in ceramic sharpener in the block.

those Kycera ceramics are awesome though.

[RJ]

Donger, were you happy with your Henckels?

[MagicHef]

this is true to a point. the tips will snap off of you drop it just right, or if you use it to pry on something, but they won't shatter if dropped or anything like that.

That's why the tips are typically rounded.

http://i44.tinypic.com/k1wf0o.jpg

[DeezNutz]

Wusthof. Great knives. I prefer the Classic, not what's pictured.

http://www.abbottscookshop.co.uk/images/knives/wusthof/4976_16.jpg

[Fish]

I wouldn't recommend ceramics, unless you just have money to blow. They're too much of a pain in the ass. They hold an edge for a very long time, but unless you're incredibly careful with the knife, it's going to get chipped up. If it where mine, I wouldn't let the wife or kids use it, and it would never go in the sink and certainly not in the dishwasher. They're really fragile. And you can't sharpen them unless you have a ceramic whetstone made for it.

Get good Japanese steel, and sharpen it right.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Wusthof. Great knives. I prefer the Classic, not what's pictured.

http://www.abbottscookshop.co.uk/images/knives/wusthof/4976_16.jpg

I have the Classics, and love them.

http://www.paulsfinest.com/image.php?productid=87

[DeezNutz]

I have the Classics, and love them.

http://www.paulsfinest.com/image.php?productid=87

There it is.

Great fucking knife right there. Money.

[Fire Me Boy!]

As good a knife as the Wusthof is, it doesn't hold a candle to some of that Japanese steel I linked.

[MahiMike]

Got 'em. Love 'em.