***Official 2009 Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, lets go racin boys***

[smittysbar]

New season, new thread.

Strictly for MoJo purposes.

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Gordon wins first race of the Gatorade Duel.

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Jr. overshot his pit, had to back up. He lost several spots

[PastorMikH]

Whats up with Stewart running for Office Depot instead of Carl? Carl get better deal elsewhere or Office Depot pull a plug on Carl?

The new Aflac paint job is much better than last year.

[smittysbar]

Jr and Martin both have tire problems, Jr. slid through his pit again.


Newman just crashed

[smittysbar]

Whats up with Stewart running for Office Depot instead of Carl? Carl get better deal elsewhere or Office Depot pull a plug on Carl?

The new Aflac paint job is much better than last year.

Yeah I think Aflac wanted to be the main sponsor, not sure if Office Depot would do the money or commit to a full schedule.

[smittysbar]

Cal from 6th to 20th Wonder what happened?

[PastorMikH]

This car doesn't seem to be doing as well as what Carl was doing last year. Sat he kept jumping at the pits and fall in the race. Today the car can't seem to gain ground either.

Concerned for Sunday.

[smittysbar]

Kyle Bush wins 2nd race, another year of watching the Toyota's with more HP then the rest of the field.

[smittysbar]

This car doesn't seem to be doing as well as what Carl was doing last year. Sat he kept jumping at the pits and fall in the race. Today the car can't seem to gain ground either.

Concerned for Sunday.

Surprised he made it back to 8th

[PastorMikH]

They just said Carl finished 8th???

[smittysbar]

Mayfield made it in.

He showed up with a car that he owns, people have let him borrow and use parts. His whole crew is made up of volunteers from teams that laid off crew members.

Cinderella story?

[FloridaMan88]

NASCAR would be more interesting if they added right turns

[smittysbar]

NASCAR would be more interesting if they added right turns

WOW! Good one! Never heard that before :rolleyes:

[kstater]

Kyle Bush wins 2nd race, another year of watching the Toyota's with more HP then the rest of the field.

Not exactly the track you can make this argument at.

[smittysbar]

Not exactly the track you can make this argument at.

He had the power in the end that won him the race. Not that it's everything but Martin had a good run, they even commented afterwords that it looked like he had the HP advantage.

[smittysbar]

Newman having horrible luck this week. He was wrecked in the shoot out, then just a little bit ago, during final practice, he blew a tire, and tore up his car. To top it off his teammate Tony Stewart was behind him and couldn't avoid him. Now Ryan and Tony have pulled out their back up cars, they won't be able to put very many laps on them.

This will be Ryan's 3rd car this weekend.

Goodyear has puled a bunch of their tires, saying they had a bad batch. Looks like tire issues may go throughout the weekend.

[BigVE]

With the economy in mind I wish Nascar would shorten the races to something in the range of the Nation wide series. And in the interest of KEEPING people interested. I used to watch every race start to finish, now I can't stay awake for an entire race.

[PHOG]

Goodyear should really get their head out...remember that debacle of a race at INDY? :shake:

It would suck for that to happen at Daytona.

[smittysbar]

Goodyear should really get their head out...remember that debacle of a race at INDY? :shake:

It would suck for that to happen at Daytona.

That was horrible. I am amazed that they still have the contract.

[PastorMikH]

With the economy in mind I wish Nascar would shorten the races to something in the range of the Nation wide series. And in the interest of KEEPING people interested. I used to watch every race start to finish, now I can't stay awake for an entire race.


So 'cause you're getting old and lazy we should change the entire race format so you can stay awake through it??

:shake::shake:

:D

[PastorMikH]

Newman having horrible luck this week. He was wrecked in the shoot out, then just a little bit ago, during final practice, he blew a tire, and tore up his car. To top it off his teammate Tony Stewart was behind him and couldn't avoid him. Now Ryan and Tony have pulled out their back up cars, they won't be able to put very many laps on them.

This will be Ryan's 3rd car this weekend.

Goodyear has puled a bunch of their tires, saying they had a bad batch. Looks like tire issues may go throughout the weekend.




They were showing tires from one of the runs this week - not sure if it was sunday's bud or the two shootouts thurs, can't remember. But I do remember them showing a dire that looked like a retreat that lost it's cap.


Let Hoosier have a chance at Nascar!

[BigVE]

So 'cause you're getting old and lazy we should change the entire race format so you can stay awake through it??

:shake::shake:

:D

How about just plain 'ol losing interest. NASCAR's ratings are down all over...it's not just me.

[smittysbar]

They were showing tires from one of the runs this week - not sure if it was sunday's bud or the two shootouts thurs, can't remember. But I do remember them showing a dire that looked like a retreat that lost it's cap.


Let Hoosier have a chance at Nascar!

With all the problems they have had, and all the drivers that have publicly criticized them, I would have to think they are on thin ice. This is not how NASCAR wants to start the season.

[smittysbar]

Rule changes for this season,

Single file starts now start with 20 to go, not 10

The double red line on the wall for a restart has now turned into a restart zone, If you are not going by the second line, NASCAR will wave the green, and they can pass the leader.

Sealed engine rule for NWS.

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Nation Wide @ Daytona getting ready to drop the green flag on espn2.

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Halfway point coming up and nothing happening for the most part, except Bush whining that his car was a piece of shit and he can't keep up with anyone.......moves into 1st a few laps later....what a bitch.

[kstater]

In a surprising turn of events, Leffler causes an accident and Steven Wallace is involved.

[smittysbar]

Carl just barely got by that crash, Carls car must suck ass today. New crew chief may not have been a great idea

[smittysbar]

5 lap penalty on Leffler for aggressive driving. Did he do something else? Seems like a huge penalty.

[smittysbar]

Carl out front, need roush boys to get up there and help him

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NICE finish, Stewart holds em off, Carl nosed in there for 2nd, Bush got shuffled

[Bugeater]

60% chance of showers tomorrow in Daytona. :shake:

[Spott]

On my way home from the race now. What a great day to see a race, not to mention we scored tickets in row 12 at the finish line for $10 a piece. Too bad Carl couldn't pull it out.
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[kcxiv]

Good to see Tony win. I am a fan of his, though, he's not my fav driver.

Anyways, cant wait til tomorrow.

[smittysbar]

On my way home from the race now. What a great day to see a race, not to mention we scored tickets in row 12 at the finish line for $10 a piece. Too bad Carl couldn't pull it out.
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You going tomorrow too?

[Spott]

You going tomorrow too?

I doubt it. The races are fun to go to, but I have to work on Monday and it is usually pretty roung getting out of Daytona after the big race.

[smittysbar]

The 500, starting at 1:00, which means it probably won't start until 2:00 or 2:30.

In case anyone is interested, TRACKPASS (which is bad ass), is free for today. www.nascar.com. Go to Race view, click on the driver you want to watch and the audio you want to listen to.

[kstater]

The 500, starting at 1:00, which means it probably won't start until 2:00 or 2:30.

In case anyone is interested, TRACKPASS (which is bad ass), is free for today. www.nascar.com. Go to Race view, click on the driver you want to watch and the audio you want to listen to.

Flag drops just after 2:00. If it doesn't rain before.

[Reerun_KC]

http://radar.weather.gov/lite/NCR/JAX_0.png (http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar_lite.php?rid=JAX&product=NCR&loop=yes)

[Reerun_KC]

I am in Orlando, so far no rain here, but it will be raining in Daytona on and off this afternoon...

Time to bolt on some aqua treads and learn how to drive...

[smittysbar]

God this will suck if they drag it out through a bunch of rain delays

[Buck]

Hey guys I added the Daytona 500 to the Sports Betting in the Casino. You have an hour and half left to bet.

[Reerun_KC]

God this will suck if they drag it out through a bunch of rain delays

ROFL

Why cant they just race on?

They are professional drivers, Change the tires and lets see some racing...

[Bugeater]

God this will suck if they drag it out through a bunch of rain delays
Or even worse, postpone the damn thing until tomorrow when no one can watch it.

[Bugeater]

ROFL

Why cant they just race on?

They are professional drivers, Change the tires and lets see some racing...

They did do that last year for a Nationwide road course race, it slowed the cars down and it was boring as hell. It would never work at a superspeedway.

[kstater]

ROFL

Why cant they just race on?

They are professional drivers, Change the tires and lets see some racing...

Not at 195mph and 31 degree banking. Oh, and they run 2 feet apart 2-3 wide for the entire race.

[Reerun_KC]

http://adds.aviationweather.gov/data/metars/2009021518_metars_tpa.gif

[Reerun_KC]

Not at 195mph and 31 degree banking. Oh, and they run 2 feet apart 2-3 wide for the entire race.

Dude, add some drops of water in there and that would get interesting! Wow, that would be really cool!

[Bugeater]

Dude, add some drops of water in there and that would get interesting! Wow, that would be really cool!

Yeah, the entire field of 43 cars would go directly into the wall in the first turn, and that would be the end of it. Then again, I suppose that would be cool for someone who had no interest in watching the entire race.

[kstater]

Yeah, the entire field of 43 cars would go directly into the wall in the first turn, and that would be the end of it. Then again, I suppose that would be cool for someone who had no interest in watching the entire race.

Come on now, you know good and well Robbie Gordon would be in the wall before the first turn.

[Reerun_KC]

Yeah, the entire field of 43 cars would go directly into the wall in the first turn, and that would be the end of it. Then again, I suppose that would be cool for someone who had no interest in watching the entire race.

True, considering I passed on Free tickets to go to the race today....

[kstater]

True, considering I passed on Free tickets to go to the race today....

:shake:

Chicks in bikini's don't amuse you?

[Reerun_KC]

But according to the media coverage here in Orlando, they say the weather is breaking for the race. 40% chance now...

[Bugeater]

Come on now, you know good and well Robbie Gordon would be in the wall before the first turn.

Good point, he'd also take out a couple of the favorites and then blame it on them.

[Reerun_KC]

:shake:

Chicks in bikini's don't amuse you?

Nothing wrong with that...

[kstater]

Crap, I see water.

[Bugeater]

Crap, I see water.
That's the lake, dumbass. :)

[PastorMikH]

C'MON CARL!!!!

[kstater]

Jeez, I hope they don't play this every week.

[kstater]

Good lord, once wasn't enough?

[PastorMikH]

Hey, if the bands not getting wet, neither will the cars, LET'S GET THEM ROLLING!

[Bugeater]

This pre-race crap is ridiculous.

[philfree]

This pre-race crap is ridiculous.

Does every big sporting even held these days have to be a rock concert. I love rock and roll but geez.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Bugeater]

Does every big sporting even held these days have to be a rock concert. I love rock and roll but geez.

PhilFree:arrow:

That was a country guy I think, I wasn't really paying attention. I can see having that stuff for the people attending the race, but there's no reason to televise it.

[kcxiv]

This pre-race crap is ridiculous.

Always stupid for each and every sporting or sports related event.

[Bugeater]

Always stupid for each and every sporting or sports related event.

NASCAR is the worst because they never announce the actual race starting time so you are stuck watching the crap. At least I know the Super Bowl kicks off at 5:15 and there's no reason to turn on the TV before then.

[PastorMikH]

Anyone actually heard WHEN this race will start?

[Bugeater]

Anyone actually heard WHEN this race will start?

Sometime this month, I believe.

[kstater]

WHOOOHHOOOOOO, engines are cranked. Now, let's not have any rain. Rain means at least an 1 1/2 hour break at this track.

[kstater]

Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, lets go wreckin boys

[kstater]

Good work to not tear anyone up.

[kcxiv]

Yep, usually a spin like that is bad luck for at least 2-4 other cars.

[kstater]

11,43,24

[Bugeater]

WTF FOX? They go to commercial as soon as they go green?

[Bugeater]

Good god, this is getting as bad as football with the commercials. Another break, and only 5 laps away from the competition caution they know is coming. :shake:

[Buck]

Any Jimmie Johnson fans?

[Bugeater]

Any Jimmie Johnson fans?

No.

[Buck]

No.

Hes the first Sprint Cup driver from San Diego...

About the only thing San Diego has ever been able to hang their hat on.

[Bugeater]

Hes the first Sprint Cup driver from San Diego...

About the only thing San Diego has ever been able to hang their hat on.

Mrs Nzoner is a huge JJ fan, she has an entire room in their place dedicated to him. She even has an old tire off one of his cars, ask Joe about it sometime.

[kstater]

I'm going to go on record that Kyle Busch is going to kill someone this year.

[Dylan]

Woooooooooooo Junebug!

look at all those hendricks boys

a little early though


:D

[Bugeater]

And the Jr jock-scratching continues...

[kstater]

Stewart's not bitching about the tires now is he?

[Dylan]

I'm going to go on record that Kyle Busch is going to kill someone this year.


please dear god, don't let it be my boys ... i would hate to see their heads go rollin' down the track - amen

[Dylan]

Stewart's not bitching about the tires now is he?


that's because he's been bitching about them all week -- :D


caution -- and we're watching a commercial

[Bugeater]

lol, Jr missed his pit stall

[kstater]

Junior misses his pits, at least it's early and under caution.

[Bugeater]

He found it this time. :)

[Dylan]

Jesus C. that put the green & white fans back in their seats -- damn

[Dylan]

ah, hush, all of ya LMAO

[kstater]

Looks like 25 lap segments is all that'll be run today.


Good(or bad) news is there will be a wreck every 25 laps.

[Dylan]

uh oh, rain' coming --- if the race is near the half point -- we could see the big one

[Dylan]

I bet Home Depot is kicking themselves right now. Bad decision to say with Joe Gibbs and sponsor Baby Jesus Logano.

Did they actually think that tony would fail racing with Hendricks motors.

[Reerun_KC]

So how does air density and density altitude affect these cars?

[Craqhead]

Maybe Tony didn't wanna drive a Toyota.

[Dylan]

I knew BABY JESUS would hit the wall

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

gibbs is an idiot. -- 18 yrs old -- in 2 yrs you'll never remember his name

[Reerun_KC]

Anyone?

[Bugeater]

Apparently Tony left his bad luck at Daytona in that Home Depot car.

[Bugeater]

Anyone?

Beats the shit out of me.

[Buck]

I heard a Joey Logano inteview on the Dan Patrick show on Friday Morning.

He was saying that he would consider the race successful if he finished.

So much for that.

[Reerun_KC]

Beats the shit out of me.

Me too, that is why I was asking...

right now the air is very dense at Daytona... So I was wondering if it gave the cars more power, but made it harder for them to move the air to move forward?

[Craqhead]

Me too, that is why I was asking...

right now the air is very dense at Daytona... So I was wondering if it gave the cars more power, but made it harder for them to move the air to move forward?

The track is cooler so they get better traction. But IDK bout the density.

[mlyonsd]

So how does air density and density altitude affect these cars?

The denser the air the more down force on the front end. More down force on the front end help keeps the car from creating drag, plus makes it more stable.

[Reerun_KC]

The denser the air the more down force on the front end. More down force on the front end help keeps the car from creating drag, plus makes it more stable.

Sweet Thanks for the information....

So with denser air, do the cars produce more HP like airplanes do?

[mlyonsd]

How in the h*** can you miss your pit box, not just once but three times?

Jr. doesn't have it like his dad had.

[kstater]

Sweet Thanks for the information....

So with denser air, do the cars produce more HP like airplanes do?

It wouldn't be significant enough to notice. These cars ar pretty maxed out as it is.

[mlyonsd]

Sweet Thanks for the information....

So with denser air, do the cars produce more HP like airplanes do?

That one I don't know.

[Reerun_KC]

Another question, if this is a superspeedway, why do they have restrictor plates on the cars?

[Dylan]

Maybe Tony didn't wanna drive a Toyota.

tony was never happy with the move to toyota. he always loved chevys. GM also sponors his midget track


Baby Jesus had been eating the wall all week at Daytona == love how he puts the blame on someone else. so much for "sliced bread"

[kcxiv]

I knew BABY JESUS would hit the wall

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

gibbs is an idiot. -- 18 yrs old -- in 2 yrs you'll never remember his name

Poeple said the same thing with Kyle Busch. Have to give them a chance at least. If i remember correctly, Busch raced in a nascar even when he was 16.

[kstater]

Another question, if this is a superspeedway, why do they have restrictor plates on the cars?

Way, way, WAY too dangerous without them. Before they switched, they were running 221mph. I couldn't even imagine what they would run now.

[Dylan]

Another question, if this is a superspeedway, why do they have restrictor plates on the cars?


this is a superspeedway. The restrictor plates are used so the cars don't go airborne if they get in a wreck. they still go airborne -- but it keeps the car from flying over the fence and into the crowd--

[mlyonsd]

Another question, if this is a superspeedway, why do they have restrictor plates on the cars?

So they don't kill themselves when their cars take off like airplanes.

Back in the day they raced at over 200mph on this track. Now the top is like 189.

Pooosies.

[Bugeater]

Another question, if this is a superspeedway, why do they have restrictor plates on the cars?

Speeds were starting to get out of hand with the more aerodynamic cars back in the 80s. IIRC they were starting to hit around 220 mph.

[Reerun_KC]

The denser the air the more down force on the front end. More down force on the front end help keeps the car from creating drag, plus makes it more stable.

So as in the opposite in airplanes, air under the vehicle is a bad thing?

[kstater]

Eliot ran just a hair over 221.

[kstater]

So as in the opposite in airplanes, air under the vehicle is a bad thing?

Very, these cars rely on downforce, they don't want lift. When under speed, these cars have roughly 1/4 inch clearance, and on some tracks you'll frequently see them bottom out.

[Reerun_KC]

Thanks for the information... I know zero about this sport... Just trying to understand the fundamentals...

[Bugeater]

So as in the opposite in airplanes, air under the vehicle is a bad thing?

Yes, very bad. These cars used to get airborne if they got turned around at high speeds. That's what the safety flaps on the roof of the car are there for.

[mlyonsd]

So as in the opposite in airplanes, air under the vehicle is a bad thing?

Air under the car causes lift, just like airplanes. Lift is bad for handling.

[mlyonsd]

Yes, very bad. These cars used to get airborne if they got turned around at high speeds. That's what the safety flaps on the roof of the car are there for.

I remember watching this race just wondering how far we'd see Rusty Wallace fly that day.

[Dylan]

Restrictor Plates
One part of a NASCAR car engine that was implemented for safety reasons is now being pointed at as the cause for many of the multi-car accidents during races. Restrictor plates are used at NASCAR's super-speedways, including Daytona and Talladega, to slow cars down. The New Hampshire International Speedway was recently added to that short list of restrictor-plate tracks following the deaths of Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin on that track within months of each other

Restrictor plates were implemented in 1988 following Bobby Allison's crash into a retaining fence at 210 mph (338 kph), which endangered hundreds of fans. Also in 1987, Bill Elliott set the track record by running a lap around the track at 213 mph (343 kph). Some believe that if restrictor plates weren't used, NASCAR cars could race on super-speedways at speeds in excess of 225 mph (362 kph) due to the improved aerodynamics of the cars over the past decade.

While NASCAR officials contend that restrictor plates are needed to prevent high-speed crashes like Allison's, many drivers complain that restrictor plates are the cause of multi-car accidents. Restrictor plates reduce speed by about 10 mph, leaving the field of more than 40 cars bunched tightly as they race around the track at 190 mph. If one of these cars crashes, it usually causes several other cars to crash along with it.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/nascar-safety4.htm

[Reerun_KC]

Very, these cars rely on downforce, they don't want lift. When under speed, these cars have roughly 1/4 inch clearance, and on some tracks you'll frequently see them bottom out.

Okay so one could look like a car as and upside down airfoil? Relative wind (speed in this case) drives the car down, like an airplane wing up...

[kstater]

Reerun: These are both with restrictor plates.

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[mlyonsd]

Okay so one could look like a car as and upside down airfoil? Relative wind (speed in this case) drives the car down, like an airplane wing up...

Stick your hand out of your car window going about 60. Hold it level and then dip your hand down. You'll feel the down force. Then imagine doing it at 189mph.

[kstater]

Okay so one could look like a car as and upside down airfoil? Relative wind (speed in this case) drives the car down, like an airplane wing up...

Yup, and with the COT(the new car) there's even more downforce with the rear spoiler and front air dam(they call it a splitter).

[Reerun_KC]

Stick your hand out of your car window going about 60. Hold it level and then dip your hand down. You'll feel the down force. Then imagine doing it at 189mph.

Actually I used that same explanation when I am training new pilots... ROFL

Ironic huh?

[Reerun_KC]

Rain is coming?

[Bugeater]

WTF is Waltrip talking about, that's a huge storm coming.

[kstater]

WTF is Waltrip talking about, that's a huge storm coming.

Waltrip's a bad announcer, his only claim to fame post retirement is boogity boogity boogity.

[Bugeater]

Waltrip's a bad announcer, his only claim to fame post retirement is boogity boogity boogity.

Which is pretty stupid on its own.

And Gordon goes a lap down. :D

[Dylan]

Thanks for the information... I know zero about this sport... Just trying to understand the fundamentals...

oh ok. i'll help you to get addicted to nascar. before each race, i'll post what you need to know.

Some drivers love superspeedways and others hate them. restrictor plate tracks are known for “The big one” when referring to a huge crash that can take out 1/3 to 1/2 of the cars on the track. You know it's coming -- You just don't know when.

[kcxiv]

I dont know why Nascar conitnues to do business with Goodyear. They have sucked bad for a few years. YOu see Gordons tire and thats not even a full run.

[kstater]

I dont know why Nascar conitnues to do business with Goodyear. They have sucked bad for a few years. YOu see Gordons tire and thats not even a full run.

That's a setup issue with Gordon's car. Goodyear sucks, but that tire is on his team.

[Bugeater]

Damn, Gordon gets his lap back.

[kcxiv]

Just as i say that a tire tears up a car.

[mlyonsd]

Actually I used that same explanation when I am training new pilots... ROFL

Ironic huh?

Awesome I always wanted to learn to fly. My dad was a pilot and flew the family for vacation several times.

[Dylan]

Here's the 'Big One' at Talladega. You will see the 'Big One' before the race ends

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[Bugeater]

Jr still having trouble getting in his pit stall...

[kstater]

Junior fucks up again. 1 lap? A little extreme.

[mlyonsd]

Jr.'s an idiot.

[kstater]

Didn't it use to be end of the longest line?

[kcxiv]

Junior ****s up again. 1 lap? A little extreme.

Thats standard though. As long as its consistent. its all good.

[PastorMikH]

I don't think that official liked Dales pit guy pushing him out from the front of Dale's car.


Dale seriously needs to work on pits.

[PastorMikH]

Junior ****s up again. 1 lap? A little extreme.


The pit guy tried to push the official over to the wall and get him out of the way. I don't think the official appreciated that and levied the full penalty he could.

[Kyle DeLexus]

I'm having to miss this good thing about the Raceview trial or I would have been screwed

[kstater]

Junior fucked that up.

[Bugeater]

LOL, that didn't take long.

[Dylan]

HERE IT IS -- "THE BIG ONE"

We'll have another one

[Kyle DeLexus]

DAMNIT! Down goes Kyle, that sucks man

[Bugeater]

Nice, Jr caused the whole mess and he makes it thru.

[PastorMikH]

Down goes Kyle, that sucks man



PBJ PBJ PBJ

GO CARL!!!

:)


Can't believe Carl got through that, he was right behind Kyle.

This wreck got a lot of the better drivers.

[kstater]

Did Junior get his lap back?

[Dylan]

Oh well, I think Junior has a lot of apologies to make. That was crazy. lol

[Mr. Flopnuts]

His old man is lookin down on everyone shrugging his shoulders saying, "That's just racing."

[PastorMikH]

Did Junior get his lap back?



Heh, bump someone, cause a wreck and use the pass to get back to the lead lap AFTER the wreck you caused takes out several of the top drivers.

Just like his dad.

[Dylan]

Vickers was blocking, but Junior had no business going below the yellow line to make it three-wide.

[kstater]

I wanna see Shrub pout.

[Bugeater]

Wow, the sky looked really dark there.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Vickers was blocking, but Junior had no business going below the yellow line to make it three-wide.

Junior got blocked right down into it.

[Buck]

Nice, Jimmie made it through.

[Bugeater]

No free pass for Jr, he's still a lap down.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Well I can turn this off now always next race

[PastorMikH]

No free pass - the driver that should have got it was in the wreck.

[kstater]

Junior got blocked right down into it.

Yeah, Junior doesn't move, that accident still happens.

[kstater]

Let's see Busch. I wanna see his tears.

[KC2004]

Guess it easy to forget Vickers taking out Jr at Talladega to win the race??? I dont think Jr did it on purpose.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Let's see Busch. I wanna see his tears.

Nah, he's just a little upset. Who wouldn't be looked like he had the best car out there and guys way behind take him out.

[Dylan]

His old man is lookin down on everyone shrugging his shoulders saying, "That's just racing."


LOL... It was a racin' deal -- Vickers is an idiot too -- Blocking isn't racing -- just ask Dead Dale

Jr was taken out the same way at talladega.

[Bugeater]

I bet they don't get this going again.

[Dylan]

Busch had the best car today...

[Dylan]

watch Jr win lol

the hell with it -- all the top drivers at one time or another caused the big one

[KC2004]

Busch had the best car today...

key word :p

[Dylan]

Oh Jesus, Sorenson & Sadler are leading

Sadler has the worst luck at superspeedways...

[kstater]

I bet they don't get this going again.

I bet you $50.

[KC2004]

Oh Jesus, Sorenson & Sadler are leading

Sadler has the worst luck at superspeedways...

Yeah he's usually upside down.

[Dylan]

that yellow line causes more crashes than it's worth. NASCRAP seems not to care

[Dylan]

Yeah he's usually upside down.

with the car breaking apart as it tumbles through the air LMAO

[kstater]

Junior will be back on the lead lap.

[Bugeater]

I bet you $50.

Gotcha covered. :thumb:

[kstater]

WindTunnel ought to be fun tonight.

[kstater]

Gotcha covered. :thumb:

Crap, I should have asked for $50k.

[Dylan]

Vickers interview is going to get him in trouble.

I expect future inspections to be very tough for saying anything bad about ASSCAR and the "Chosen Sperm" -- Joonya

[kcxiv]

he's going to get possibly alittle fine and put on probation. Its like a coach getting a techincal foul in basketball. No big deal really. Just gotta set the tone saying, what someone did was wrong.

[Dylan]

with Sadler leading, I see all the top drivers are hangin' back

get read for another "big one"...

burton black flagged for stuff hanging off his car.

Tom Cruise! lol

[Bugeater]

These cautions are getting old, they need to keep this race going.

[kstater]

These cautions are getting old, they need to keep this race going.

If they'd ban the use of radar, none of these accidents would have happened for another hour or so.

[Buck]

Who got the lap back there? Johnson?

[Bugeater]

Uh-oh, this could be it here.

[kstater]

Kenseth's going to say it's a freaking hurricane out there.

[Bugeater]

They could've got this race in with no problem if they didn't have 1 1/2 hours of prerace bullshit.

[KC2004]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/nascar/2009/races/lapbylap/02/15/daytona/Wreck_665.jpg

[Dylan]

i got to say this... You guys have such an incredible forum. I can't believe the Admin allows you the opportunity to have a Nascar discussion thread going on the main forum --

[kstater]

Don't pull the cars off. That's the worst thing you can do.

[mlyonsd]

I'm guessing race over.

[mlyonsd]

i got to say this... You guys have such an incredible forum. I can't believe the Admin allows you the opportunity to have a Nascar discussion thread going on the main forum --

We're Chief fans. It's not like we can talk FB all that much.

[KC2004]

Not looking good on the radar.

[Dylan]

Here's a live Leaderboard at Ca$hcar.com

http://www.nascar.com/races/leaderboard/cup/race/

[Bugeater]

It doesn't appear that they've lost the track yet.

[Dylan]

Wow... Matt Kenseth is leading. Kevin Harvick is in 2nd place --and Armerdingerlickinburger is in 3rd place

[Bugeater]

Wow... Matt Kenseth is leading. Kevin Harvick is in 2nd place --and Armerdingerlickinburger is in 3rd place

No kidding, that top 6 isn't exactly a Who's Who of Nascar.

[Dylan]

Jr will always tell you the truth. If he messes up, he's apologize

[Old Dog]

Jr is living off of his daddys' name

[herms a idiot]

Jr will always tell you the truth. If he messes up, he's apologizethere doing every thing possible to make it not jr,s fault.can waltrip get jr,s cock out of his mouth already .

[Old Dog]

I like Martin, but I'm conflicted since he drives for Hendricks

[KC2004]

Jr is living off of his daddys' name

ROFL Yeah cause 18 cup wins 2 x Busch Champion and a Daytona 500 win is living off your Dad's name. OK! :rolleyes:

[Bugeater]

No way they get this thing going again.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/Warnings/Short/MLB/MLB_20090215_2303_Warnings.gif

[kstater]

Race over.

Kenseth wins.

[Jerm]

...And it's over.

Kenseth wins.

What a joke.

The biggest race of the year ends on a rain delay haha, ridiculous.

[Old Dog]

ROFL Yeah cause 18 cup wins 2 x Busch Champion and a Daytona 500 win is living off your Dad's name. OK! :rolleyes:
One of the most over rated drivers in the history of the sport....second to Kyle Petty IMO

[Bugeater]

Oops, the radar loop didn't post. Race called anyway.

Thank god we got the Keith Urban concert in though. :rolleyes:

[Old Dog]

Top 5 (4) for Clint....good deal

[Bugeater]

I mean seriously, they knew as of yesterday there was a threat of rain today, they could've started this thing WAY earlier. Nice going ASSCAR.

[kstater]

One of the most over rated drivers in the history of the sport....second to Kyle Petty IMO

He's 9th(7th if you throw out Elliot and T. Labonte who make 5 starts a year) on the active wins list.

[KC2004]

One of the most over rated drivers in the history of the sport....second to Kyle Petty IMO

Your comparing Jr to Kyle Petty?

Cup stats:
Jr 328 starts 18 wins $47,000,000 earning
Petty 829 starts 8 wins $32,000,000 earning with 500 more starts in cup.

[Dylan]

Worst Daletona 500 ever -- Mack Kensleth is CRYING -- I can understand his happiness but that's tough for Sadler.

I guess I'd be happy too if they stopped a race as soon as I got the lead and handed the win to me. I'd be crying for a year. Freakin' Nascrap

[Jerm]

Again, biggest race of the year and you can't come back tomorrow and finish it??? What a joke.

Either that or start it earlier with the threat of weather moving in.

Just a terrible race all the way around.

[KC2004]

Worst Daletona 500 ever -- Mack Kensleth is CRYING -- I can understand his happiness but that's tough for Sadler.

I guess I'd be happy too if they stopped a race as soon as I got the lead and handed the win to me. I'd be crying for a year. Freakin' Nascrap

Hey at least Sadler finished the race on all four wheels and no damage. The odds were against that.

[kstater]

Again, biggest race of the year and you can't come back tomorrow and finish it??? What a joke.

Either that or start it earlier with the threat of weather moving in.

Just a terrible race all the way around.

They could have finished tonight. The rain's going to be out in an hour and 2 hours of dry time.

[Jerm]

They could have finished tonight. The rain's going to be out in an hour and 2 hours of dry time.

Agreed.

FOX just said that the NASCAR pres. said that the rain was supposed to last for another hour and a half (8:30 p.m. est) and then "with the humidity in the air" they wouldn't start racing again until 11 p.m. est.

What a waste...bunch of shit excuses.

It'd really take 2 1/2 hours to dry the track? Come on now.

[Bugeater]

They could have finished tonight. The rain's going to be out in an hour and 2 hours of dry time.

That would put them back out around 10pm local time at best. The hard rain hasn't even shown up there yet.

http://www.findlocalweather.com/radar_loop/fl/daytona+beach.html

[ChiefsCountry]

They could have finished tonight. The rain's going to be out in an hour and 2 hours of dry time.

They said the track wouldnt be drivable till 11.

[Bugeater]

Agreed.

FOX just said that the NASCAR pres. said that the rain was supposed to last for another hour and a half (8:30 p.m. est) and then "with the humidity in the air" they wouldn't start racing again until 11 p.m. est.

What a waste...bunch of shit excuses.

It'd really take 2 1/2 hours to dry the track? Come on now.
Easily, that's a huge track. There's no excuse for them not starting it earlier though.

[Old Dog]

Your comparing Jr to Kyle Petty?

No, I wasn't comparing the two. I simply sid they both made/are making their living off of their names. Jr has pretty much always had the best equipment to work with and IN MY OPINION he's simply over rated.

[Jerm]

LOL Chris Myers: "The Daytona 500...like the World Series and Super Bowl wrapped into one".

Yeah because those end on a rain delay...nice try.

[KC2004]

Damn that was fast.

http://nascar.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p5727502reg.jpg

[Dylan]

I mean seriously, they knew as of yesterday there was a threat of rain today, they could've started this thing WAY earlier. Nice going ASSCAR.

NASCAR is crooked...if you can't see that, you're blind .... God these chicken wings are great, pass me another plate --A.J. Foyt


lol

[Dylan]

and to Vickers:

DON'T CUT IN FRONT OF ME....DON'T CUT ME OFF....ITS CALLED HOLD YOUR LANE.

LMAO

[Bugeater]

NASCAR is crooked...if you can't see that, you're blind .... God these chicken wings are great, pass me another plate --A.J. Foyt


lol
Dunno if it has anything about being crooked, but for a sport that claims to be so "fan friendly" they really dropped the ball on this one. They've been doing a lot lately that is testing my patience as a fan.

[KC2004]

Dunno if it has anything about being crooked, but for a sport that claims to be so "fan friendly" they really dropped the ball on this one. They've been doing a lot lately that is testing my patience as a fan.

Kind of a double edge sword here. People at home want to see the full race and 200,000 people at the track are not wanting to be there till early a.m. trying to get out to catch a plane or whatever.


If they would of started at Noon like they use to it wouldn't be a problem. They also lose some ratings if it starts then because of the west coast. We all know what the networks prefer.

[Bugeater]

Kind of a double edge sword here. People at home want to see the full race and 200,000 people at the track are not wanting to be there till early a.m. trying to get out to catch a plane or whatever.


If they would of started at Noon like they use to it wouldn't be a problem. They also lose some ratings if it starts then because of the west coast. We all know what the networks prefer.

Oh, I don't blame them at all for calling the race when they did, that was a no-brainer. Not starting the damn thing until almost 4 pm local time when you know there's a threat of rain is inexcusable.

[Dylan]

I found the famous quote: heh

"NASCAR is so crooked. Whoever you are, I don't care what you say, if you can't see that, then you are blind." A.J. Foyt (Foxsports )(4-12-2003)

http://jayski.com/past/2003/030407.htm

[Dylan]

Some years back, they finished the race in Cali at 1:30-2:00 AM due to rain

[Bugeater]

Some years back, they finished the race in Cali at 1:30-2:00 AM due to rain

There was a Pepsi 400 at Daytona that finished fairly late too a few years back, but that was on a Saturday night. Tony Stewart made some awesome moves on the final lap to win it.

Edit: It finished at 1:15 am local time, and Stewart took the lead on a crazy 4-wide pass well before the final lap.

[MichaelH]

Dunno if it has anything about being crooked, but for a sport that claims to be so "fan friendly" they really dropped the ball on this one. They've been doing a lot lately that is testing my patience as a fan.

It's not just lately. I have been a fan since 1995. It's been going downhill since right after Dale Sr. died. The sport got too big for the dim bulbs that run the sport. It's a good 'ol boy mentality trying to run the NFL and MLB combined.

[Bugeater]

It's not just lately. I have been a fan since 1995. It's been going downhill since right after Dale Sr. died. The sport got too big for the dim bulbs that run the sport. It's a good 'ol boy mentality trying to run the NFL and MLB combined.

That's about the same time I started getting into it as well, and part of the problem is pretty much all of the drivers from that era are gone now, and I don't really care for most of the new ones. Now there's nothing NASCAR can do about that, but things like taking away a Darlington race for another one at boring-ass Fontana and ruining Bristol sure as hell aren't helping either.

[PHOG]

Terrible decision on calling the race, I mean come ON.....and I also agree with the not starting the race earlier with the threat of rain...had to get in the pre-race activities...:shake::shake::rolleyes:

[smittysbar]

Well, my internet was down throughout the race at the bar. Nice that 2 drivers a lap down take out a bunch of good cars, and sorry not buying the whole, "just an accident excuse". He was frustrated and got blocked, then came back up into him. Could have been avoided, by both Jr. and Vickers. Maybe if Jr. would learn how to pit, he wouldn't be in that position, I mean come on, missing your pit box 4 times in one weekend.

Why the fuck they didn't start this race earlier is beyond me, but hey they got the concert in.......

Matt "the prick" pulls out he win, not even leading a full lap, WOW.

This is NASCARS biggest race of the year, they should have made every effort possible to finish it, even if it went into the late night.

Was surprised that Carl made it back to 18th from 30th on that last run, with a banged up car.

[Dylan]

smittysbar:

Nascar is really the one to blame. Even though, it happened in a split second, Jr had already a good run moving down the track before Vickers put a severe block on him. Vickers hit Jr first on the right front, forcing him below the yellow line. In essence, this is one of Nascar's most controversial rules. Once you're forced below the yellow line, you got to get up fast and "blend" in above the line.

If Vickers is going to block drivers, he better be sure he can clear him. When Vickers came down hard and made contact, Jr never lost control of his car. Too bad I can't say the same for Vickers.

You live by the block, you can die from the block. ... Sincerely, Dead Dale


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[Dylan]

Well, my internet was down throughout the race at the bar. Nice that 2 drivers a lap down take out a bunch of good cars, and sorry not buying the whole, "just an accident excuse". He was frustrated and got blocked, then came back up into him. Could have been avoided, by both Jr. and Vickers. Maybe if Jr. would learn how to pit, he wouldn't be in that position, I mean come on, missing your pit box 4 times in one weekend.

Why the **** they didn't start this race earlier is beyond me, but hey they got the concert in.......

Matt "the prick" pulls out he win, not even leading a full lap, WOW.

This is NASCARS biggest race of the year, they should have made every effort possible to finish it, even if it went into the late night.

Was surprised that Carl made it back to 18th from 30th on that last run, with a banged up car.

NASCAR finally made restitution to Jack Roush for all the years they kept him out of the winner's circle, because he was not one of the "Good ol' boys."

:shake:

[smittysbar]

smittysbar:

Nascar is really the one to blame. Even though, it happened in a split second, Jr had already a good run moving down the track before Vickers put a severe block on him. Vickers hit Jr first on the right front, forcing him below the yellow line. In essence, this is one of Nascar's most controversial rules. Once you're forced below the yellow line, you got to get up fast and "blend" in above the line.

If Vickers is going to block drivers, he better be sure he can clear him. When Vickers came down hard and made contact, Jr never lost control of his car. Too bad I can't say the same for Vickers.

You live by the block, you can die from the block. ... Sincerely, Dead Dale


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Look I realize Vickers blocked him, that is why I said it could have been avoided by both drivers. If it was Bush that pulled this everyone would be screaming. Dale turned him, plain and simple. Whats BS is that NASCAR is not consistent in the penalties. In the Nationwide race a driver didn't do shit but Nascar handed him a 5 lap penilty (which is rediculous) but if they are going to hand that one out, Jr, more than deserved the same. We all know though they won't mess with the golden child to much.

[Bugeater]

Christ, all I heard about today regarding the race was Dale Jr incident, live I give a goddamn shit about that. No outrage about getting fucked out of the last 50 laps of the race whatsoever. Just Dale, Dale and more Dale. Fuck you NASCAR.

[smittysbar]

Christ, all I heard about today regarding the race was Dale Jr incident, live I give a goddamn shit about that. No outrage about getting fucked out of the last 50 laps of the race whatsoever. Just Dale, Dale and more Dale. Fuck you NASCAR.

On the radio around here, fans called in and bitched their ass's off concerning the calling the race.


They were comparing it with other sports, saying other sports wouldn't have called it, especially at the biggest event of the sport.

[PastorMikH]

Why did they take so long starting the race? Was the start rain-delayed and I missed the announcement? Had they started at 1pm ct like I saw the race announced last week, they might have been able to get the last 50 laps in before the rain came.

[Bugeater]

On the radio around here, fans called in and bitched their ass's off concerning the calling the race.


They were comparing it with other sports, saying other sports wouldn't have called it, especially at the biggest event of the sport.
Again, it's not that they called it, it's that they wasted 2 hours with stupid shit like Digger cartoons and a Keith Urban concert instead of starting the damn thing early when they knew rain was a possibility. The race should be the most important thing, and it seemed like it was the least. Oh well, they got their money I guess.


Why did they take so long starting the race? Was the start rain-delayed and I missed the announcement? Had they started at 1pm ct like I saw the race announced last week, they might have been able to get the last 50 laps in before the rain came.
EXACTLY. And no, it wasn't rain delayed.

[smittysbar]

Again, it's not that they called it, it's that they wasted 2 hours with stupid shit like Digger cartoons and a Keith Urban concert instead of starting the damn thing early when they knew rain was a possibility. The race should be the most important thing, and it seemed like it was the least. Oh well, they got their money I guess.



EXACTLY. And no, it wasn't rain delayed.

I agree, even at that though, I think it should be finished, even if they have to run it the next day.

[Dylan]

Look I realize Vickers blocked him, that is why I said it could have been avoided by both drivers. If it was Bush that pulled this everyone would be screaming. Dale turned him, plain and simple. Whats BS is that NASCAR is not consistent in the penalties. In the Nationwide race a driver didn't do shit but Nascar handed him a 5 lap penilty (which is rediculous) but if they are going to hand that one out, Jr, more than deserved the same. We all know though they won't mess with the golden child to much.

i root for kyle -- but you would never know by the way i ripped on him last season for being big stoopid. ... :D

[smittysbar]

i root for kyle -- but you would never know by the way i ripped on him last season for being big stoopid. ... :D

Yeah I know you have a soft spot for the little pimple faced punk :evil:

[Spott]

Here's a few pics I took from our seats during Saturday's race. Sorry if the quality isn't that great. I may be the last person still using 35mm.