Anyone else hate phillip head screws?

[googlegoogle]

Put a phillips head right through my hand. Punctured it. Yellow stuff came out of the hole. Think it was fat. :eek: Hope i don't need stitches. this happened before with phillip screws. They also strip alot. should be banned. Allen wrenches are way better. Canadians use square end wrenches.

[rad]

Some people shouldn't use power tools.

[KcMizzou]

:spock:

[BigMeatballDave]

Sounds like operator error. Flat head screw drivers are far worse.

[The Franchise]

Karma is a bitch.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I was just sitting here comtemplating which type of screw is the best and this settles it. Phillips all the way.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

you do realize a philips head and flat head (and Torx and Robertson and star and...) screw are all pointy on the end right?

[RealSNR]

Did you remove your hand from the top of the screw before you started using the screwdriver?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

JFC :Lin:, I'm eating here.

[kstater]

Future Darwin award winner.

[MIAdragon]

Self lipo is never a good idea

[wild1]

i hate the regular ones

[Buck]

Yeah, they always strip.

I Like flat head too, becuase I have yet to strip one, I don't see the downfalls of them though, as BigChiefDave mentions

[MIAdragon]

Yeah, they always strip.

I Like flat head too, becuase I have yet to strip one, I don't see the downfalls of them though, as BigChiefDave mentions

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[rad]

I was just sitting here comtemplating which type of screw is the best and this settles it. Phillips all the way.

I would say your mom......

[allen_kcCard]

I've always wanted to see a flat head screw with ends on it...I like the gripping of the flat, but it likes to slide out the side...if there was an end, then that wouldn't be a problem, just the need for drivers that fit in the space.

[googlegoogle]

I've always wanted to see a flat head screw with ends on it...I like the gripping of the flat, but it likes to slide out the side...if there was an end, then that wouldn't be a problem, just the need for drivers that fit in the space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw middle right of page.I didn't know there were that many. Never see any of them usually.

[Bugeater]

Sounds like operator error. Flat head screw drivers are far worse.
This.


Yeah, they always strip.

I Like flat head too, becuase I have yet to strip one, I don't see the downfalls of them though, as BigChiefDave mentions
You can't put anywhere near the torque on a flat head screw.

[cabletech94]

Also depends on how durable some screws are.

oh, this is too easy.

[CrazyPhuD]

Should have used some antifreeze. I hear it makes a good antiseptic and also a fine painkiller!

[crazycoffey]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw middle right of page.I didn't know there were that many. Never see any of them usually.


I don't see it.... looks like a phillips with tapered sides

[morphius]

Yeah, they always strip.

I Like flat head too, becuase I have yet to strip one, I don't see the downfalls of them though, as BigChiefDave mentions
I've stripped them both, but never stabbed myself with either. I hate regular, hate, hate, hate, especially if they have been in place for years, you just can't get enough on them and keep them in the slot.

[cdcox]

I hate regular, hate, hate, hate, especially if they have been in place for years, you just can't get enough on them and keep them in the slot.

You give far too much credit to regular (flat head) screws.

[crazycoffey]

I swear to god, if this turns into an arguement about straight / phillips heads screws, I'm going to shoot my teacher for the 12th time.....

[stevieray]

I've stripped them both, but never stabbed myself with either. I hate regular, hate, hate, hate, especially if they have been in place for years, you just can't get enough on them and keep them in the slot.

olllllllllllllllllllld flat head screws on door hinges...

:banghead:

[Groves]

You can't put anywhere near the torque on a flat head screw.

I'm with you on the general hatred of straight slot screws, but not being able to put torque on them is flat out not correct.

The phillips was actually designed to limit torque, and to "cam out" if excessive torque is applied. The stripping of screws that we all hate is by design.

The secret to using slotted screws is to use a screwdriver that actually fits them correctly. The caveat to that rule is that most modern (cheap) screws are made such that no screwdriver exists to fit them correctly.

I think we can all see the superiority of the square drive and torx. Henry Ford was all set to use square drives in his cars at the beginning, but the canadian fellow (robertson) who owned the patent was going to make ol Henry pay to use the design. Ford wasn't into systems that he couldn't control, so he went with the phillips design instead.

We've been hating them ever since.

[cdcox]

Okay, I have this on my list of minor tools to acquire. Anyone have any real life experience with it?

http://www.4grabit.com/Default.asp?gclid=CNPevujl4pkCFQVinAodcx2fQg&bhcp=1

[Marcellus]

This thread is useless without pics.

[prhom]

Does anyone know why they use the square drive aluminum screws for putting up vinyl fencing? I can see that the square drive has a lot of torque, but all that does for an aluminum screw is strip it out really fast once it sets.

[LaChapelle]

This is not what they meant when they called them self tapping screws.

[Bugeater]

Does anyone know why they use the square drive aluminum screws for putting up vinyl fencing? I can see that the square drive has a lot of torque, but all that does for an aluminum screw is strip it out really fast once it sets.
Aluminum doesn't rust.

[googlegoogle]

Does anyone know why they use the square drive aluminum screws for putting up vinyl fencing? I can see that the square drive has a lot of torque, but all that does for an aluminum screw is strip it out really fast once it sets.

They wouldn't use them if they stripped easily. Aluminum can be heat treated. Not the same as soft aluminum.

[Crush]

Don't worry, Billy Mays will present another fantastic product™ and it will solve your problems.

[Demonpenz]

I heard dane walked in on bob villa getting a handjob at a home fair one time, said he was surprised he had gold screw nipple piercings

[rad]

The secret to loosening screws that have been in a while is to tighten a tad before loosening.

[PRIEST]

Some people shouldn't use power tools.



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Now flat head screw outlaw that POS

[Bwana]

I have seen numerous people on here tell you to "go screw yourself." I'm not sure this is what they had in mind.

[Iowanian]

flat screws < Phillips head screws < torque head screws


Each have their place in the food chain and are better in certain circumstances.

[jAZ]

Flat head screws suck ass.

[jimhitter]

What kind of screw was this besides phillips? I would think drywall or deck screw. Switch to either torx or square drive to get more torque. Get a screw with a auger point or drill point. Previous poster was correct, phillips is designed to strip if torqued too much.

[StcChief]

Sounds like operator error. Flat head screw drivers are far worse.no doubt. I'd use a phillips or other multi-surface screw anyday over a flathead.

[SAUTO]

no doubt. I'd use a phillips or other multi-surface screw anyday over a flathead.

how do you remove a stripped phillips head screw?

[Extra Point]

The trick is matching the point of the phillips screw (1.2, or 3 point). Tapping the screwdriver with a mallet can help loosen the fastener. Sorry about your lipo incident.

[vailpass]

how do you remove a stripped phillips head screw?

Drill bit.

[SAUTO]

The trick is matching the point of the phillips screw (1.2, or 3 point). Tapping the screwdriver with a mallet can help loosen the fastener. Sorry about your lipo incident.

yep an impact screw driver works great.

[SAUTO]

Drill bit.

maybe, i usually try to take a cutoff tool and cut a deep straight line across the head and use the impact driver on it. works 80% (or better)

[jimhitter]

maybe, i usually try to take a cutoff tool and cut a deep straight line across the head and use the impact driver on it. works 80% (or better)

Use a left hand drill bit and or a screw extractor. Impact drivers also will help with stripping phillips drives, it's good to have one with variable speed.

[vailpass]

maybe, i usually try to take a cutoff tool and cut a deep straight line across the head and use the impact driver on it. works 80% (or better)

I'm usre you are right.
You are an industrial strength user, I am only the home-strength variety.

[SAUTO]

Use a left hand drill bit and or a screw extractor. Impact drivers also will help with stripping phillips drives, it's good to have one with variable speed.

No a manual impact driver. you hit it with a hammer. can buy one with bits for around $20