Bioshock 2

[keg in kc]

Never played the first, but thought those of you who had might be interested in this:

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[Crashride]

what is it im at work

[Kraus]

It is the first gameplay movie of Bioshock 2. Thanks for posting that up.

[Reaper16]

Interesting. Apparently, you play as the prototype Big Daddy; the very first one created. That agile thing running around in the 1st half of the clip is a (the?) Big Sister.

I wasn't interested in this much at all, seeing as the developer for the sequel is different than the developer who made the 1st, super-fantastic, title in the franchise. This clip piqued my interest, though.

[kcxiv]

While its different developers i believe the producer of the first one has alot of input on the 2nd one. Think his name is Ken irvine or something like that.

[Crashride]

FUCK YES

[Talisman]

I haven't finished the first one yet. I lent it out to a friend and just got it back. But I rarely buy games when they first come out, so I'll be waiting for the sequel to drop in price a little before picking it up anyway. I just got my 360 last fall, so my backlog of good and cheap games is rather large.

[Fairplay]

when is the release date on it?

[Talisman]

when is the release date on it?

It's expected towards the end of the year. Probably a holiday release.

[Fish]

Giggity giggity!!!!

[007]

While its different developers i believe the producer of the first one has alot of input on the 2nd one. Think his name is Ken irvine or something like that.

I am looking forward to this one.

By the way, love your avatar.;)

[kcxiv]

I am looking forward to this one.

By the way, love your avatar.;)

Yep, Sarah Walker is hotness.

[QuikSsurfer]

9 minute walkthrough

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14240341/bioshock-2/videos/bioshock2_trl_walk051209c.html

[kcxiv]

got word my hook up from 2K is going to get me this game early. dunno how early, but, cant wait haha

[Fish]

JIMP!

[The Franchise]

Bioshock 2 to have Multiplayer.

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[Mr. Laz]

i started Bioshock 1 but i just stopped playing

not a fan of the "scary" FPS games where they make everything so dark you can see so they can spawn guys on top of you. :shrug:

[Reaper16]

i started Bioshock 1 but i just stopped playing

not a fan of the "scary" FPS games where they make everything so dark you can see so they can spawn guys on top of you. :shrug:
You fail at everything. Jesus.

[Mr. Laz]

You fail at everything. Jesus.
yep, i suppose so

i'm trying to be cool like you, it's just very difficult. :(

[Reaper16]

yep, i suppose so

i'm trying to be cool like you, it's just very difficult. :(
Enjoying good games like Bioshock is easy-peasy.

[Kraus]

This game is $54 (360) and $55 (PS3) from Amazon.com with a free shipping option and you also get $10 Amazon credit.

360:

http://www.amazon.com/Bioshock-2-Xbox-360/dp/B0016BVYA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1263246403&sr=8-1

PS3:

http://www.amazon.com/Bioshock-2-Playstation-3/dp/B001NIP3EG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1263246467&sr=8-2

[keg in kc]

i started Bioshock 1 but i just stopped playingI did the same thing.

I'm just not an FPS guy, I guess. I've made it through a few, but not many.

[Mr. Laz]

I did the same thing.

I'm just not an FPS guy, I guess. I've made it through a few, but not many.
I do better with FPS/adventure hybrid type games

better yet just dump a little bit of everything :)

FPS/Adventure/Strategy/Character building/Grind/PVP/PVE/MMORPG

[Demonpenz]

i suck at fps and i loved bioshock, going through and playing a second time when i know what is going on was AWESOME

[Kraus]

IGN's Video Review:

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[Pants]

I do better with FPS/adventure hybrid type games

better yet just dump a little bit of everything :)

FPS/Adventure/Strategy/Character building/Grind/PVP/PVE/MMORPG

Bioshock was a masterpiece. There never was and probably never will be an FPS with just the right amount of RPG elements in it like Bioshock had.

Also, Bioshock's point was never to have scary (jump out of your seat) moments. That's what DOOM III did. You knew where the enemy was in Bioshock before you ever saw them, they never just spawned in the dark corner next to you.

[TrickyNicky]

Bioshock was a masterpiece. There never was and probably never will be an FPS with just the right amount of RPG elements in it like Bioshock had.

Also, Bioshock's point was never to have scary (jump out of your seat) moments. That's what DOOM III did. You knew where the enemy was in Bioshock before you ever saw them, they never just spawned in the dark corner next to you.

Except for that one scripted part in the Pavillion. That nearly gave me a coronary.

[Frazod]

Bioshock was a masterpiece. There never was and probably never will be an FPS with just the right amount of RPG elements in it like Bioshock had.

Also, Bioshock's point was never to have scary (jump out of your seat) moments. That's what DOOM III did. You knew where the enemy was in Bioshock before you ever saw them, they never just spawned in the dark corner next to you.

That's not necessarily true - every now and then you'd turn around and one of the crazy fuckers would be standing right there ready to strike. Creeped me out playing in a dark room in the middle of the night.

[jiveturkey]

The first one freaked me out a couple of times as well. The sounds was amazing down in the man cave.

[Kraus]

The part that really got me was in the Dentist's office when it fogs up, so I tried backing up but was stuck on something, and I turn around and there is the Dentist splicer right in my face.

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[Kraus]

Anybody picking this up tomorrow? I'd be up for some multiplayer.

[Frazod]

I'll probably get it tomorrow (perfect timing since I just finished ME2). Assuming I'm not buried up to my eyes in snow.

I don't do multi-player, though. Sorry.

[Saulbadguy]

Damn you Steam, let me preload!

[TinyEvel]

I am buying this today. I am only 1/3 through Bioshock 1. Should I finish it first?

[Reaper16]

I am buying this today. I am only 1/3 through Bioshock 1. Should I finish it first?
YES GOD YES

[Saulbadguy]

Got it installed, can't wait to go home and play!

[Frazod]

I am buying this today. I am only 1/3 through Bioshock 1. Should I finish it first?

Yes. Bioshock is awesome.

[blazzin311]

Well I never have played the first one but had heard so many good things about it. So now that the second one is out and I'm looking to buy a new PS3 game or two (don't have many since Xbox just died bout 3 weeks ago and I finally made the switch to Sony) my question is should I go ahead and pick this one up or go with the first one? How lost will I be if I start with the second one?

[Saulbadguy]

Well I never have played the first one but had heard so many good things about it. So now that the second one is out and I'm looking to buy a new PS3 game or two (don't have many since Xbox just died bout 3 weeks ago and I finally made the switch to Sony) my question is should I go ahead and pick this one up or go with the first one? How lost will I be if I start with the second one?

Pick up the first one.

[Frazod]

Well I never have played the first one but had heard so many good things about it. So now that the second one is out and I'm looking to buy a new PS3 game or two (don't have many since Xbox just died bout 3 weeks ago and I finally made the switch to Sony) my question is should I go ahead and pick this one up or go with the first one? How lost will I be if I start with the second one?

I'll answer that question for you in a couple of days.

[blazzin311]

Pick up the first one.

That's almost what I'm thinking at this point. It would be cheaper and by the time I beat it there could possibly be a price drop in Bioshock 2. I'll wait a day or so just to see what frazod advises me to do.

[Pants]

That's almost what I'm thinking at this point. It would be cheaper and by the time I beat it there could possibly be a price drop in Bioshock 2. I'll wait a day or so just to see what frazod advises me to do.

There's nothing to advise, you need to play Bioshock. It's as simple as that. The game is like 15 hours long or so, so it'll take you a week to beat it if you play it 2 hours a day.

[Saulbadguy]

That's almost what I'm thinking at this point. It would be cheaper and by the time I beat it there could possibly be a price drop in Bioshock 2. I'll wait a day or so just to see what frazod advises me to do.

I bought Bioshock 2 on PC and it included a free copy of Bioshock. :D

[Frazod]

That's almost what I'm thinking at this point. It would be cheaper and by the time I beat it there could possibly be a price drop in Bioshock 2. I'll wait a day or so just to see what frazod advises me to do.

Oh, I definitely advise you to play it, whether it's necessary for the second one or not.

Great, great game.

[blazzin311]

Well then, it looks as if I'll be purchasing the first one today after work. Thankyou for help making my decision a little bit easier.

[Frazod]

Installation complete, see you all in few days :D

[Saulbadguy]

So far, so good. :D

[Frazod]

It's pretty much just like the first one, perhaps a bit faster paced. Lots of fun.

Definitely play the original game first - anyone who doesn't will be confused about what's going on.

[Mosbonian]

I loved watching my son play it....so I was looking forward to this and so was he.

I went to Blockbuster first thing this AM (when I was able to get dug out from the snow) and picked it up for him. He was psyched to play this all day.....i brought it home with me after work...gave it to him and he disappeared into his basement dungeon.

He came up an hour later....he had the most disappointed look on his face...

He said he hated it....so we went and played Left 4 Dead 2 on the tougest level.

mmaddog
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[MoreLemonPledge]

I'm about 5 hours into it or so and I'm really enjoying it. Obviously not quite same experience as the first, but it's still a darn good game. The multiplayer is a bit iffy, but that's not why most people are playing the game anyway.

[Frazod]

I'm about 5 hours into it or so and I'm really enjoying it. Obviously not quite same experience as the first, but it's still a darn good game. The multiplayer is a bit iffy, but that's not why most people are playing the game anyway.

Same here (other than the multiplayer, which I don't bother with). It seems a bit faster paced than the original and also lacks some of the dark, atmospheric creepiness, but is still loads of fun.

[TinyEvel]

I picked it up but decided to finish Bioshock 1 first. pLayed at night in the dark with headphones. I'm only at the Dandy Dental part (telekenesis). I am frustrated because I am not that awesome at games where you have to cycle through menus with four separate triggers to get to guns /things you need. I get panichands. I think it's just getting the COD and MAG button schemes out of my head though. I'm gonna get the game guide. Heavy Rain is almost here so that's gonna be a couple of weeks when it drops. I want to finish this game first but it's becoming like a job. Heh.

[Saulbadguy]

Love the fact that I can fire plasmids and weapons without switching between them.

[Frazod]

One problem I have with the game (and granted, I'm not one of the BB's videogame kung fu/insanity level masters like KEG) is that when I get dogpiled, which happens frequently in this game, it's annoying to switch between weapons while you're getting pounded on from four different directions. I think I might actually hook my Xbox controller to my computer and see if that works a little better for me - this may be one of those rare games when the hand held controller is better than the mouse/keyboard combo.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Beat the game. I didn't rush through it and it was still fairly short (about 10 hours or so). The story was nowhere near as good as the first one (which was one of the better storytelling experiences in gaming history), the graphics weren't an improvement at all over the first, and the multiplayer was just OK.

Don't get me wrong, it was still a damn good game and better than 90% of the crap that's put out there, but it was just a disappointment when compared to the first. If you're thinking about buying it, rent it first.

[Frazod]

Beat the game. I didn't rush through it and it was still fairly short (about 10 hours or so). The story was nowhere near as good as the first one (which was one of the better storytelling experiences in gaming history), the graphics weren't an improvement at all over the first, and the multiplayer was just OK.

Don't get me wrong, it was still a damn good game and better than 90% of the crap that's put out there, but it was just a disappointment when compared to the first. If you're thinking about buying it, rent it first.

I paid for it with a gift card, so it's all good.

But you're right, it's no where near as cool as the original. The fact that I'm not motivated to play it nonstop speaks to that.

[KcMizzou]

From the reviews posted here, it sounds like it's a bit of a let-down. Bummer.

[TrickyNicky]

On the bright side, Mount & Blade is only $5 this weekend and I played it for 4 hours straight today. Its pretty fun.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I actually like Bioshock 2 better than the first one. The last game you could just use your lighting plasmid and whack the splicers with a wrench the whole game. I think the gameplay is much better in Bioshock 2.

[Otter]

I just finished the first one literally about 20 minutes ago. That's one of the best games I've played in a long time. Turned off all the lights so I couldn't see anything else around me and really got immersed into the game. Nice balance of creepy, atmospheric and FPS.

There's a couple jump in your chair moments like when you approach the guys you think are dead and they're just sleeping. I really worked the 'hacking' angle to help me win and it was worth it.

That's going to be a tough act to follow.

[Jewish Rabbi]

This game should have been a rent for me. Beat it in probably 8 hours, just need another playthru on hard to mop up achievements and possibly get the multiplayer ones. I don't know if I'll be motivated enough to get those, however.

[Skyy God]

This game should have been a rent for me. Beat it in probably 8 hours, just need another playthru on hard to mop up achievements and possibly get the multiplayer ones. I don't know if I'll be motivated enough to get those, however.

They go pretty quickly. I put in 4 hours yesterday and made it to level 16/40.

It's pretty buggy, though, as it crashed a few times.

[Otter]

I'm waiting until this one comes out on Steam for $19 or available on half.com for the same price which will probably be a year or two down the road. Seeing I have no interest in multiplayer and I'll be done with the game in 5 days just can't bring myself to pony up $50.

[HC_Chief]

I'm waiting until this one comes out on Steam for $19 or available on half.com for the same price which will probably be a year or two down the road. Seeing I have no interest in multiplayer and I'll be done with the game in 5 days just can't bring myself to pony up $50.

Rent it... Blockbuster has copies

[Otter]

Rent it... Blockbuster has copies

I'm strictly PC platform. Not like you Nancy Boys on the console. (pounds chest)

[Reaper16]

I haven't gotten around to playing it yet (I'm still scared off by the change in development teams). How is the political/ethical content of Bioshock 2? One of my favorite aspects of the first one was its examination of Randian Objectivism.

[Otter]

I haven't gotten around to playing it yet (I'm still scared off by the change in development teams). How is the political/ethical content of Bioshock 2? One of my favorite aspects of the first one was its examination of Randian Objectivism.

You're a ****ing dork.

You can rationalize that by thinking your just above the rest of us if you already haven't done so.

[HC_Chief]

I'm strictly PC platform. Not like you Nancy Boys on the console. (pounds chest)

lol
That's right, I forgot :D

[MoreLemonPledge]

I haven't gotten around to playing it yet (I'm still scared off by the change in development teams). How is the political/ethical content of Bioshock 2? One of my favorite aspects of the first one was its examination of Randian Objectivism.

This one is more of a commentary on socialism vs. capitalism. It's not nearly as moving or thought-provoking as the first. The ethical choices you make do affect the end game, and apparently there are 6 different possible endings depending on your decisions in the game.

[Reaper16]

You're a ****ing dork.

You can rationalize that by thinking your just above the rest of us if you already haven't done so.
I prefer nerd.

[Otter]

I prefer nerd.

Nerd

[Reaper16]

So... I just got through the Siren Alley level and I'm considering just quitting altogether because I'm so fucking bored. This game, while sufficient on a technical level (by that I don't mean technology but technicality), has lots of flaws. The character motivations aren't there, the level design and gameplay is derivative, the levels don't feel like a natural progression through a story but instead feel like a game artificially extending itself.

Worst of all the political content blows. So far its setting up authoritarian collectivism as the subject of discussion. Except there isn't a discussion and, duh, of course authoritarian collectivism is bad, every WW2 video game is built on that notion. Nobody sensible is desirous of authoritarian collectivism. What made the political content of the first Bioshock so effective is that plenty of sensible people are desirous of libertarianism/objectivism. If the game was commenting on less-overtly-deplorable forms of collectivism then the game would be better, more nuanced.

From what I've played so far, the sequel is actively making the first game look worse by retconning all of its arguments.

[PornChief]

Bioshock was great, haven't got B2 yet since I'm patient and cheap and will wait til games become 'reasonably priced'. But I'd say the game would be much easier to play, like all FPS shooters, on a PC with a mouse from having tried it on a friends PC. Why PC gamers insist they're 'superior' I'll never know.

[jiveturkey]

So... I just got through the Siren Alley level and I'm considering just quitting altogether because I'm so ****ing bored. This game, while sufficient on a technical level (by that I don't mean technology but technicality), has lots of flaws. The character motivations aren't there, the level design and gameplay is derivative, the levels don't feel like a natural progression through a story but instead feel like a game artificially extending itself.

Worst of all the political content blows. So far its setting up authoritarian collectivism as the subject of discussion. Except there isn't a discussion and, duh, of course authoritarian collectivism is bad, every WW2 video game is built on that notion. Nobody sensible is desirous of authoritarian collectivism. What made the political content of the first Bioshock so effective is that plenty of sensible people are desirous of libertarianism/objectivism. If the game was commenting on less-overtly-deplorable forms of collectivism then the game would be better, more nuanced.

From what I've played so far, the sequel is actively making the first game look worse by retconning all of its arguments.I just beat it and I have to agree with most of this. It really was boring and the ending was weak.

[Frazod]

I just beat it and I have to agree with most of this. It really was boring and the ending was weak.

I never did finish it and really have no desire to. Unfortunately I bought the PC version so I can't trade it in. :grr:

Very disappointing.