BREAKING NEWS : U.S. CAPTAIN RESCUED

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

3 Somali pirates dead and one in custody. seems the captain jumped out and the Navy Seals took them out!

YES!

Don't fuck with the USA !!!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Oh Yeah.


http://www.foxnews.com/

[RustShack]

What?

[StcChief]

Gotta love it. Pirates go down arrrrrrrrrrrgggghhhh.

[Frazod]

Excellent. Now we should carpet bomb the rest of them.

[KCUnited]

Under Siege 4: Segallian Nightmare

[DeezNutz]

Damn. Don't fuck with the SEAL team.

[petegz28]

great job by the Fox News editors...

Ship captain is safe after Navy firefight kills 3 pirates killed, one in custody, U.S. officials say

http://www.foxnews.com/

They didn't kill them dead. They killed them killed!!!!

[Bwana]

Captain safe......................................check
3 out of 4 pirates taking a dirt nap.........check
Last prirate shot and in custody.............check

[mikeyis4dcats.]

good.

[orange]

Excellent. Now we should carpet bomb the rest of them.

Very much THIS!

http://greekodyssey.typepad.com/my_greek_odyssey/images/2007/09/30/tripoli_2.jpg

[wild1]

Nice work by the seals. Hope the pirates didn't die instantly.

Let those pirate assholes know they should stay well away from a US-flagged vessel.

[StcChief]

Captain safe......................................check
3 out of 4 pirates taking a dirt nap.........check
Last prirate shot and in custody.............check did they take 'em on shore. Dump them in ocean for shark food.

[RNR]

I love a happy ending! Too bad one lived but a happy ending all the same.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I love a happy ending! Too bad one lived but a happy ending all the same.


This ! AND Kyle Orton is now the Donkey's Quarterback!

[Bwana]

Nice work by the seals. Hope the pirates didn't die instantly.

Let those pirate assholes know they should stay well away from a US-flagged vessel.

Exactly. I bet it will be a cold day in hell when other pirates screw with a US ship. By going in and killing the wastes of skin, it sent a clear message. If you take one of our people, or fug with one of our ships we will kill you.

[Bwana]

did they take 'em on shore. Dump them in ocean for shark food.

Hey, if they used them as chum, at least they turned out to be of some use.

[StcChief]

Exactly. I bet it will be a cold day in hell when other pirates screw with a US ship. By going in and killing the wastes of skin, it sent a clear message. If you take one of our people, or fug with one of our ships we will kill you. that's right, now on to the carpet bombing, cruise missile targeting safe havens there.

[wild1]

Exactly. I bet it will be a cold day in hell when other pirates screw with a US ship. By going in and killing the wastes of skin, it sent a clear message. If you take one of our people, or fug with one of our ships we will kill you.

not only that, but you don't take an American citizen hostage and threaten his life. people around the world should know that if you do that to an American we will find you and kill you.

[T-post Tom]

Don't f*ck with the "Devils with green faces"! About fookin' time someone put these co*cksuckers down. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fugtards. Seals rule!

[T-post Tom]

not only that, but you don't take an American citizen hostage and threaten his life. people around the world should know that if you do that to an American we will find you and kill you.

:clap:

[Bwana]

"The district commissioner of the central Mudug region said talks went on all day Saturday, with clan elders from his area talking by satellite telephone and through a translator with Americans, but collapsed late Saturday night.
"The negotiations between the elders and American officials have broken down. The reason is American officials wanted to arrest the pirates in Puntland and elders refused the arrest of the pirates," said the commissioner, Abdi Aziz Aw Yusuf. He said he organized initial contacts between the elders and the Americans."

LMAO

Oooops!

[wild1]

"The district commissioner of the central Mudug region said talks went on all day Saturday, with clan elders from his area talking by satellite telephone and through a translator with Americans, but collapsed late Saturday night.
"The negotiations between the elders and American officials have broken down. The reason is American officials wanted to arrest the pirates in Puntland and elders refused the arrest of the pirates," said the commissioner, Abdi Aziz Aw Yusuf. He said he organized initial contacts between the elders and the Americans."

LMAO

Oooops!

Well, they certainly didn't end up being arrested.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

They say there are Somali pirate "Mother" ships out there.

It would be nice to use these to test a few of our newer weapons on.

[J Diddy]

This is great news!

[Bugeater]

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

[wild1]

They say there are Somali pirate "Mother" ships out there.

It would be nice to use these to test a few of our newer weapons on.

Maybe a short, unannounced campaign would be in order where we put a few ships around the horn of africa, and it's like a fishing derby. They sink every pirate vessel they see and capture it all on tape. Every man on the winning vessel gets a week's furlough.

[Bwana]

They say there are Somali pirate "Mother" ships out there.

It would be nice to use these to test a few of our newer weapons on.

Can you say target practice for our war jets? Something tells me the pirates on the "mother ships" are not exactly getting a blissful evening of rest.

[ChiefaRoo]

I love this country. Kuddos to the Navy and the FBI.

[KChiefs1]

I wonder if the Navy Seals read the lone surviving pirate his rights?

[splatbass]

They say there are Somali pirate "Mother" ships out there.

It would be nice to use these to test a few of our newer weapons on.

That would be good, unfortunately at least two of the motherships are previously hijacked ships that still have hostages from other countries on them.

[RNR]

Maybe a short, unannounced campaign would be in order where we put a few ships around the horn of africa, and it's like a fishing derby. They sink every pirate vessel they see and capture it all on tape. Every man on the winning vessel gets a week's furlough.

Word out of the White House is Obama is seeking to negotiate with the moderate pirates to work out a compromise

[Spott]

Arrgh, off to Davey Jones locker with ye scoundrels.

[eazyb81]

Now go drop a bomb on that waste of a country.

[splatbass]

Now go drop a bomb on that waste of a country.

CNN just reported that there are 200 hostages currently in Somalia. I would be for bombing, but only if we can ensure that none of the captives are killed by the bombing.

[eazyb81]

CNN just reported that there are 200 hostages currently in Somalia. I would be for bombing, but only if we can ensure that none of the captives are killed by the bombing.

200 American hostages, or just Somalians? My previous post was just in jest, but I do think we need to do something because that country is really just a free for all at this point and we can't just continue to put our ships at risk.

[splatbass]

200 American hostages, or just Somalians? My previous post was just in jest, but I do think we need to do something because that country is really just a free for all at this point and we can't just continue to put our ships at risk.

Not American, not Somali, but hostages from many other countries that were taken in ship hijackings. These hijackings have been going on a couple of years, and many hostages have been taken. This was the first time they had taken an American ship, but there are hostages from many European countries currently in Somalia.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Pentagon just gave a briefing about the details:

The bainbridge had hooked a tow line to the vessel phillips was on and was towing it.

we had snipers lined up across the tail of the Bainbridge.

They decided Phillips life was in imminent danger as an AK was drawn to his back.

The vessel was about 25 meters behind the Bainbridge.

Two of the pirates were exposed when the order was given to take them out.

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he never did say how the other two were shot, could we see through the vessel ?

Or seeing that they're Stupid. After the first two were shot , the other two ran up to stick their heads out to see what was goin on ?

this was a completely enclosed vessel with a hatch like a submarine.

Lots of details still to come.

[CaliforniaChief]

Navy Seals > Anyone

Although I do wonder if Jack Bauer or Tony Almeida were somewhere around there.

[T-post Tom]

Pentagon just gave a briefing about the details:

The bainbridge had hooked a tow line to the vessel phillips was on and was towing it.

we had snipers lined up across the tail of the Bainbridge.

They decided Phillips life was in imminent danger as an AK was drawn to his back.

The vessel was about 25 meters behind the Bainbridge.

Two of the pirates were exposed when the order was given to take them out.

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he never did say how the other two were shot, could we see through the vessel ?

Or seeing that they're Stupid. After the first two were shot , the other two ran up to stick their heads out to see what was goin on ?

this was a completely enclosed vessel with a hatch like a submarine.

Lots of details still to come.

The fourth was on the US ship already, so only 3 were on the lifeboat.

[Saccopoo]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Now they're trying to give Obama credit for this.

If Bush was in , there would already be cruise missiles landing in Somalia.

[bishop_74]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

Get a grip dude... they are threatening the life of other people. We need to send a message. This isn't Pirates of the Caribbean. They are terrorists.

[Pants]

They are terrorists.

ROFL

[Frazod]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

:spock:

You're directly out of your fucking mind, aren't you?

You really think this country should let a bunch of thieving foreign scumbags drag us through the high seas by our collective crank? How would you feel about it if they came to your house? Would you happily cook them a tasty hot meal while they were stealing your stuff and holding your family for ransom?

:shake:

And if you're planning on reporting me to Amnesty International, well, they've probably already got my file flagged.

[Reerun_KC]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

:spock:

I think you have lost part of your douche nozzle in your ass...

[MTG#10]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

http://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dumbass1.jpg

[kepp]

Under Siege 4: Segallian Nightmare
Segal retrofits his Rascal for a marine assault.
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[Pitt Gorilla]

You don't mess with the US Navy. Period.

[vailpass]

www.msnbc.com
In a daring high-seas rescue, U.S. Navy SEAL snipers killed three Somali pirates and freed the American sea captain who had offered himself as a hostage to save his crew.

The operation was a victory for the world's most powerful military but angry pirates vowed Monday to retaliate.

Those threats raised fears for the safety of some 230 foreign sailors still held hostage in more than a dozen ships anchored off the coast of lawless Somalia.

"From now on, if we capture foreign ships and their respective countries try to attack us, we will kill them (the hostages)," Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old pirate, told the Associated Press from one of Somalia's piracy hubs, Eyl. "(U.S. forces have) become our No. 1 enemy."

ROFL Bring it on.

[DTLB58]

Now they're trying to give Obama credit for this.

If Bush was in , there would already be cruise missiles landing in Somalia.

You are probably right.

[Pitt Gorilla]

www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com)
In a daring high-seas rescue, U.S. Navy SEAL snipers killed three Somali pirates and freed the American sea captain who had offered himself as a hostage to save his crew.

The operation was a victory for the world's most powerful military but angry pirates vowed Monday to retaliate.

Those threats raised fears for the safety of some 230 foreign sailors still held hostage in more than a dozen ships anchored off the coast of lawless Somalia.

"From now on, if we capture foreign ships and their respective countries try to attack us, we will kill them (the hostages)," Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old pirate, told the Associated Press from one of Somalia's piracy hubs, Eyl. "(U.S. forces have) become our No. 1 enemy."

ROFL Bring it on.This really isn't going to turn out well for them. I imagine the next time they try to board a US ship, they'll be met with a few rounds.

[Pants]

You don't mess with the US Navy. Period.

I don't think China got the memo.

[vailpass]

This really isn't going to turn out well for them. I imagine the next time they try to board a US ship, they'll be met with a few rounds.

Kidnapping a few Euros and then letting them go once you get paid is one thing, the US has more pressing business at the moment.

Attacking US assetts will get our attention.

Perpetrating physical violence involving weapons aggainst our citizenry while stealing from us?
The sleeping giant just looked in your direction, and that is the beginning of your end.

[vailpass]

I don't think China got the memo.

China is playing a political game. An outright confrontation with our Navy would result in a radically changed China in a very short amount of time.

[Pants]

China is playing a political game. An outright confrontation with our Navy would result in a readically changed China in a very short amount of time.

Well, they did mess with the navy by actively harassing a recon boat pretty much for fun without any repercussions.

[vailpass]

Well, they did mess with the navy by actively harassing a recon boat pretty much for fun without any repercussions.

Big dogs don't have to chase every yip-yip pup that comes their way.

[Pants]

Big dogs don't have to chase every yip-yip pup that comes their way.

Mhmm, keep telling that to yourself, lol. Chinese navy just had their way with a US Navy vessel for fun and nothing happened. I think they pretty much established what they were trying to establish.

[DeezNutz]

angry pirates vowed Monday to retaliate.


Angry pirates?

When I read we shot 'em, I didn't think it meant we nutted in their eyes, but...fuck yeah, Seals!

[vailpass]

Mhmm, keep telling that to yourself, lol. Chinese navy just had their way with a US Navy vessel for fun and nothing happened. I think they pretty much established what they were trying to establish.

People like you see what they tell you in the media and think you have enough data to actually speak on the subject.
Thanks for the entertaining description of the US-China naval situation Captain Nemo, anything else you care to enlighten me on?

[vailpass]

Angry pirates?

When I read we shot 'em, I didn't think it meant we nutted in their eyes, but...fuck yeah, Seals!

ROFL
(hopping on one leg while squinting)AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH

[Donger]

This post just confirms how ****ing stupid the vast majority of people are.

Bomb them!

Nuke them!

And you get the jist of it.

The fact is, there were three guys in a life raft with another pissed off dude who didn't want to be there. Sounds like a typical fishing trip in the Ozarks.

No food, no water, surrounded by 500 million dollar plus boats - and seriously, you wonder about where your money goes, whether you are getting anything back for your dollar, and then, boom!, all of a sudden, your tax payer dollars are suddenly justified in a reticent act of high seas piracy! At least it makes the economy forget that it's in the shitter and that rather than have a comprehensive national health care plan, we have the ability to drift side by side with an inflatable tube with boats that cost roughly a bizillion time more for weeks on end.

Like the song says, freedom costs a buck o' five...and that "o'five" could probably go to fund public education or health care for the rest of your lives, but **** that...it's better to spend that "o'five" on shit that counts - destroyers and submarine SEAL teams that can shoot four starving, sea sick, dehydrated teenage "pirates" in the name of international maritime commerce.

A buck o' five indeed.

I assume this is facetious?

[vailpass]

I assume this is facetious?

This is the same clown that told Hootie he had contacts within several federal agencies and had placed Hootie on some sort of "list" whereby the feds were watching him.

A sphincter torque reduction procedure is long overdue for this one.

[Pants]

People like you see what they tell you in the media and think you have enough data to actually speak on the subject.
Thanks for the entertaining description of the US-China naval situation Captain Nemo, anything else you care to enlighten me on?

LOL, w/e you say, expert.

So are you saying the incident never took place? Tell me what happened since you're "in the know".

[vailpass]

LOL, w/e you say, expert.

So are you saying the incident never took place? Tell me what happened since you're "in the know".

Are you a student?

[Pants]

Are you a student?

...

[vailpass]

...

I thought so. Go read bout the world in a book then come back and tell me how things are out here.

[Pants]

I thought so. Go read bout the world in a book then come back and tell me how things are out here.

So you're not going to answer me...

You're telling me you saw a big ship and some sailor threw a long technical term at you and you jizzed your pants and slept like a baby that night. K.

I know these things are impressive, but when one nation's navy decides to disregard any sort of rules in international waters and have their way with another nation's vessel, they're proving a point. I think China is going to the next USSR except they might actually succeed.

[Iowanian]

Someone should tell Jolly Roger to lube up because he's just invited the toughest kid on the block to put a boot in his ass.

[vailpass]

So you're not going to answer me...

You're telling me you saw a big ship and some sailor threw a long technical term at you and you jizzed your pants and slept like a baby that night. K.

I know these things are impressive, but when one nation's navy decides to disregard any sort of rules in international waters and have their way with another nation's vessel, they're proving a point. I think China is going to the next USSR except they might actually succeed.

You have less experience than an intern yet expect to be taken seriously? My fault for engaing this conversation with you in the first place, I didn't know you were a kid.

[MTG#10]

I know these things are impressive, but when one nation's navy decides to disregard any sort of rules in international waters and have their way with another nation's vessel, they're proving a point. I think China is going to the next USSR except they might actually succeed.

I havent been keeping up with much news lately, what exactly happened? How did they "have their way" with our ship?

[Pants]

You have less experience than an intern yet expect to be taken seriously? My fault for engaing this conversation with you in the first place, I didn't know you were a kid.

So, why don't you educate me? All I want from you is to explain in your words what happened and how I was wrong, you just keep evading by saying I don't know shit and that this is 'merica - we got big ships! Also, what experience, exactly, do you have?

[Donger]

Well, they did mess with the navy by actively harassing a recon boat pretty much for fun without any repercussions.

You are aware that that ship was crewed by civilians and was unarmed, are you not?

[MTG#10]

You are aware that that ship was crewed by civilians and was unarmed, are you not?
Heh, I did some research and was just getting ready to post this.

[Donger]

Heh, I did some research and was just getting ready to post this.

Looks like the vessel in question is going to get a destroyer escort now, too, while on patrol in the area.

[bishop_74]

So, why don't you educate me? All I want from you is to explain in your words what happened and how I was wrong, you just keep evading by saying I don't know shit and that this is 'merica - we got big ships! Also, what experience, exactly, do you have?

It's OK to not understand.

[Pants]

You are aware that that ship was crewed by civilians and was unarmed, are you not?

So the rules to don't apply when there are civilians on board, please...

[vailpass]

So the rules to don't apply when there are civilians on board, please...

ROFL

[Pants]

It's OK to not understand.

Look, the retarded monkey has spoken. If you have nothing to say, don't open your mouth, but then again, you'd probably suffocate...

[Donger]

So the rules to don't apply when there are civilians on board, please...

What are you talking about?

[Pants]

ROFL

:clap:

[Pants]

What are you talking about?

I'm taking about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7933171.stm

What are you talking about?

[Donger]

I'm taking about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7933171.stm

What are you talking about?

Yes, so am I. And as you are now aware, the ship was crewed by civilians and was unarmed. It was also un-escorted.

What exactly did you want them to do?

[Pants]

Yes, so am I. And as you are now aware, the ship was crewed by civilians and was unarmed. It was also un-escorted.

What exactly did you want them to do?

I don't want them to do anything. I was saying that China never got the memo to not fuck with the US Navy and apparently they don't give a shit.

[Donger]

I don't want them to do anything. I was saying that China never got the memo to not **** with the US Navy and apparently they don't give a shit.

Do you know the difference between USNS and USS designations?

[Pants]

Do you know the difference between USNS and USS designations?

I sure do.

[Donger]

I sure do.

Okay, good. Chinese harassment of our vessels/aircraft is nothing new. However, it seems like this vessel is going to get a destroyer escort soon.

We'll see if the harassment continues when big brother shows up.

[Pants]

Okay, good. Chinese harassment of our vessels/aircraft is nothing new. However, it seems like this vessel is going to get a destroyer escort soon.

We'll see if the harassment continues when big brother shows up.

Of course they won't, just like in the Cold War there won't actually be any blood drawn. They'll find a different unescorted vessel to harass without any consequences.

I'm not saying there's any kind of behind the scene's conflict going on or that it's even the beginning stages of a new cold war, but there's def. posturing by the Chinese. It's been going for a while now, as you, yourself, have said.

I also don't think China is exaclty shaking in their boots like so many here seem to think and it's the wrong perception to have.

[Donger]

Of course they won't, just like in the Cold War there won't actually be any blood drawn. They'll find a different unescorted vessel to harass without any consequences.

I'm not saying there's any kind of behind the scene's conflict going on or that it's even the beginning stages of a new cold war, but there's def. posturing by the Chinese. It's been going for a while now, as you, yourself have said.

Well, it seems like the Chinese navy did indeed get "the memo" then.

[Pants]

Well, it seems like the Chinese navy did indeed get "the memo" then.

Did you miss the part where I said they'll go harass another ship? Leaving the US Navy vessel in international waters (escorted or otherwise) the fuck alone for fear of consequences would be getting the memo.

[StcChief]

Obama test. he handled the Pirate dingy... next up Chinese.

[Pants]

Obama test. he handled the Pirate dingy... next up Chinese.

The thing is, the Chinese incidents happened way before this pirate incident.

[Donger]

Did you miss the part where I said they'll go harass another ship? Leaving the US Navy vessel in international waters (escorted or otherwise) the **** alone for fear of consequences would be getting the memo.

No, I didn't miss that. Playing around with unarmed vessels crewed by civilians is one thing. Playing around with armed vessels crewed by military folks is another.

[orange]

I'm taking about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7933171.stm

What are you talking about?



You should read the articles you actually link. This article for example includes this:

At issue in Sunday's incident is the manner in which the US navy says the Chinese vessels went beyond the usual boundaries in shadowing and harassing the Impeccable, the BBC's Kevin Connolly notes.

This may be an example of China testing the mettle of a new US administration, just as it did when it impounded a US reconnaissance aircraft immediately after George W Bush took office, he says.

It held the crew of the plane, which was in collision with a Chinese fighter jet, for 11 days, causing a serious diplomatic row between the two countries.

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This was back when your only concern was your wet nappy, but look it up online. Which Chinese city or ship did Bush bomb to get their attention?

[Pants]

No, I didn't miss that. Playing around with unarmed vessels crewed by civilians is one thing. Playing around with armed vessels crewed by military folks is another.

Sure, that's the obvious part, that wasn't my argument at all, though. If the Chinese navy harasses another unarmed US Navy vessel in the future, they, in fact, would have NOT gotten the memo. China doesn't want a war, but they will sure as fuck posture while completely disregarding international waters law.

[Pants]

You should read the articles you actually link. This article for example includes this:

At issue in Sunday's incident is the manner in which the US navy says the Chinese vessels went beyond the usual boundaries in shadowing and harassing the Impeccable, the BBC's Kevin Connolly notes.

This may be an example of China testing the mettle of a new US administration, just as it did when it impounded a US reconnaissance aircraft immediately after George W Bush took office, he says.

It held the crew of the plane, which was in collision with a Chinese fighter jet, for 11 days, causing a serious diplomatic row between the two countries.

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This was back when your only concern was your wet nappy, but look it up online. Which Chinese city or ship did Bush bomb to get their attention?

I did the read the article, and WTF are you talking about? My argument has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. What you quoted just further proves my point of view...

[Donger]

Sure, that's the obvious part, that wasn't my argument at all, though. If the Chinese navy harasses another unarmed US Navy vessel in the future, they, in fact, would have NOT gotten the memo. China doesn't want a war, but they will sure as **** posture while completely disregarding international waters law.

In other words, the Chinese do know not to mess with our navy. The Impeccable isn't technically a "navy" ship when she is unarmed and crewed by civilians. That's why I asked you if you knew the difference between the two.

[orange]

I did the read the article, and WTF are you talking about? My argument has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. What you quoted just further proves my point of view...

WTF I'm talking about is that this incident is nothing. Run-of-the-mill. Trivial.

Don't bet on the PRC invading Taiwan anytime soon.

[Pants]

In other words, the Chinese do know not to mess with our navy. The Impeccable isn't technically a "navy" ship when she is unarmed and crewed by civilians. That's why I asked you if you knew the difference between the two.

The US Navy is comprised of armed and unarmed vessels. The fact that the Chinese navy ships do this without facing any consequences from their government or anyone else's is pretty telling as far as knowing where China stands.

[Pants]

WTF I'm talking about is that this incident is nothing. Run-of-the-mill. Trivial.

Don't bet on the PRC invading Taiwan anytime soon.

The Pentagon reported three other naval incidents involving China last week:


On Wednesday, a Chinese Bureau of Fisheries Patrol vessel used a high-intensity spotlight to illuminate the ocean surveillance ship USNS Victorious in the Yellow Sea and, the next day, a Chinese Y-12 maritime surveillance aircraft conducted 12 fly-bys of Victorious
On Thursday, a Chinese frigate approached Impeccable without warning and crossed its bow at a close range of approximately 100m (yards), after which a Y-12 aircraft conducted 11 fly-bys. The frigate later crossed the US ship's bow again
On Saturday, a Chinese intelligence collection ship challenged Impeccable over bridge-to-bridge radio, calling her operations illegal and directing her to leave the area or "suffer the consequences".

So, that's all good? I agree, that's not really messing with Navy. I mean, they don't dare open fire on them, right?

[vailpass]

The Pentagon reported three other naval incidents involving China last week:


On Wednesday, a Chinese Bureau of Fisheries Patrol vessel used a high-intensity spotlight to illuminate the ocean surveillance ship USNS Victorious in the Yellow Sea and, the next day, a Chinese Y-12 maritime surveillance aircraft conducted 12 fly-bys of Victorious
On Thursday, a Chinese frigate approached Impeccable without warning and crossed its bow at a close range of approximately 100m (yards), after which a Y-12 aircraft conducted 11 fly-bys. The frigate later crossed the US ship's bow again
On Saturday, a Chinese intelligence collection ship challenged Impeccable over bridge-to-bridge radio, calling her operations illegal and directing her to leave the area or "suffer the consequences".

So, that's all good? I agree, that's not really messing with Navy. I mean, they don't dare open fire on them, right?

It would be good if the Navy showed up right now and pulled you out of the water which is now way over your head.

[Donger]

The US Navy is comprised of armed and unarmed vessels. The fact that the Chinese navy ships do this without facing any consequences from their government or anyone else's is pretty telling as far as knowing where China stands.

Yes, they'll harass unarmed American vessels but not armed ones. Why do you think that is?

[Pants]

It would be good if the Navy showed up right now and pulled you out of the water which is now way over your head.

I'm still waiting for you to say anything remotely meaningful. Try to be more like Donger when you argue, k?

[Donger]

The Pentagon reported three other naval incidents involving China last week:


On Wednesday, a Chinese Bureau of Fisheries Patrol vessel used a high-intensity spotlight to illuminate the ocean surveillance ship USNS Victorious in the Yellow Sea and, the next day, a Chinese Y-12 maritime surveillance aircraft conducted 12 fly-bys of Victorious
On Thursday, a Chinese frigate approached Impeccable without warning and crossed its bow at a close range of approximately 100m (yards), after which a Y-12 aircraft conducted 11 fly-bys. The frigate later crossed the US ship's bow again
On Saturday, a Chinese intelligence collection ship challenged Impeccable over bridge-to-bridge radio, calling her operations illegal and directing her to leave the area or "suffer the consequences".

So, that's all good? I agree, that's not really messing with Navy. I mean, they don't dare open fire on them, right?

No, it isn't. It's harassment of another USNS ship.

[vailpass]

I'm still waiting for you to say anything remotely meaningful. Try to be more like Donger when you argue, k?

I don't argue with interns who want to talk instead of listen. Donger has the patience and desire to converse with you, I don't.

[Pants]

Yes, they'll harass unarmed American vessels but not armed ones. Why do you think that is?

Because they don't want a conflict. I've stated that numerous times on this thread. China is breaking international waters laws at will and no one does anything about it, is that not disturbing to you at all?

That's like knowing who the mugger is and where he lives, but instead of catching him and punishing him, you try to get a body guard for every female in the vicinity. WTF kind of bullshit is that? Why even have the laws if a powerful enough nation can disregard them and do what they will?

[Iowanian]

The US should have a Seal breast stroke up behind one of these Chinese boats and put a "sink me" sign on its transom.

[Pants]

I don't argue with interns who want to talk instead of listen. Donger has the patience and desire to converse with you, I don't.

So maybe you should quit posting in this thread, no? Let the ones who can argue do it.

[Donger]

Because they don't want a conflict. I've stated that numerous times on this thread. China is breaking international waters laws at will and no one does anything about it, is that not disturbing to you at all?

That's like knowing who the rapist is and where he lives, but instead of catching him and punishing him, you try to get a body guard for every female in the vicinity. WTF kind of bullshit is that? Why even have the laws, if a powerful enough nation can disregard them and do what they will?

One of the reasons they don't want a conflict is because they know the strength of our navy.

Regarding consequences, I would be surprised if we haven't lodged a formal complaint with the Chinese over this incident. No one was hurt and no damage was done, so let diplomacy work. And, again, we are to begin escorting these vessels with destroyers, so I doubt they will do so again anyway.

So, things ARE being "done about it."

You are simply incorrect. Period.

[Frazod]

Yes, they'll harass unarmed American vessels but not armed ones. Why do you think that is?

They probably fuck with our armed vessels as well. I know the Soviets did because I've seen it. My ship was conducting an UNREP (underway replenishment) with one of the carriers (the Nimitz, IIRC) in the Med when a Russian cruiser stopped right in front of us. During an UNREP the ships are connected by lines for transferring supplies and thus have very limited manuevering capability. So we called an emergency break-away and the carrier scrambled it's ready fighters. The Russian ship moved away rather quickly after that. It was certainly exciting and a bit scary while it was happening, but nothing came of it.

Wouldn't surprise me if we do the same shit to them. This kind of gamesmanship has been going on forever.

[Pants]

One of the reasons they don't want a conflict is because they know the strength of our navy.

Regarding consequences, I would be surprised if we haven't lodged a formal complaint with the Chinese over this incident. No one was hurt and no damage was done, so let diplomacy work. And, again, we are to begin escorting these vessels with destroyers, so I doubt they will do so again anyway.

So, things ARE being "done about it."

You are simply incorrect. Period.

So you don't think China knows exaclty what they are doing? The crews are just having a little fun with the silly Americans? Really?

[vailpass]

So maybe you should quit posting in this thread, no? Let the ones who can argue do it.

This is no argument. That would require both sides to have a point. You have none.
You are wrong at every turn, trying to discuss a subject about which you know nothing. By all means, continue.

[Pants]

This is no argument. That would require both sides to have a point. You have none.
You are wrong at every turn, trying to discuss a subject about which you know nothing. By all means, continue.

Once again, you say nothing. It's quite annoying really.

[vailpass]

Once again, you say nothing. It's quite annoying really.

I'm accomplishing the same as you only using a whole lot fewer words.

[Pants]

I'm accomplishing the same as you only using a whole lot fewer words.

China bullies US Navy unarmed vessels, yes?

[Donger]

So you don't think China knows exaclty what they are doing? The crews are just having a little fun with the silly Americans? Really?

Sure. They are harassing our unarmed vessels because they don't like us playing in what they consider to be their turf. They also know not to push our navy too far.

Hence, they did get the memo.

[Pants]

Sure. They are harassing our unarmed vessels because they don't like us playing in what they consider to be their turf. They also know not to push our navy too far.

Hence, they did get the memo.

OK, so as far as you're concerned, it's OK to harass US Navy vessels and break international waters laws while doing so, as long as you don't cross some sort of a hypothetical line?

So we can say "**** YEAH! DON'T **** WITH US! (unless it's an unarmed vessel and you're China)"?

[Donger]

OK, so as far as you're concerned, it's OK to harass US Navy vessels and break international waters laws while doing so, as long as you don't cross some sort of a hypothetical line?

So we can say "**** YEAH! DON'T **** WITH US! (unless it's an unarmed vessel and you're China)"?

Of course it isn't okay. Like I said, I'm sure that we've lodged a protest with the Chinese and we're about to start escorting this vessel with destroyers.

What exactly would you have done if you were in command? Open fire on them with non-existent weapons?

[orange]

What exactly would you have done if you were in command? Open fire on them with non-existent weapons?


They actually did that.

The US ship sprayed one Chinese vessel with water from fire hoses to try to force it away, the Pentagon said.

[Pants]

Of course it isn't okay. Like I said, I'm sure that we've lodged a protest with the Chinese and we're about to start escorting this vessel with destroyers.

What exactly would you have done if you were in command?

No. I wouldn't have done anything, either, because I don't want a war with China. China knows this, and they feel like they can do these sort of things without facing any sort of reprocussions. This is what the Cold War looked like between the USSR Fleet and the US Navy, except it was with the big boys.

[Donger]

They actually did that.

The US ship sprayed one Chinese vessel with water from fire hoses to try to force it away, the Pentagon said.

ROFL

I hope they squeezed it with their finger to increase the velocity.

[Donger]

No. I wouldn't have done anything, either, because I don't want a war with China. China knows this, and they feel like they can do these sort of things without facing any sort of reprocussions. This is what the Cold War looked like between the USSR Fleet and the US Navy, except it was with the big boys.

Then I fail to see your argument.

[Pants]

Then I fail to see your argument.

China feels free to harass US Navy ships because they know we are not going do shit about it (this covers your diplomacy point, as they keep doing it despite the diplomatic efforts in the past, whatever they might say, it doesn't translate to the reality as is evident by the latest incidents). If you bring up Destroyer bodyguards, I'll say there aren't enough destroyers to cover every USNS.

China is in fact messing with our Navy, thus "they didn't get the memo."

[Donger]

China feels free to harass US Navy ships because they know we are not going do shit about it (this covers your diplomacy point, as they keep doing it despite the diplomatic efforts in the past, whatever they might say, it doesn't translate to the reality as is evident by the latest incidents). If you bring up Destroyer bodyguards, I'll say there aren't enough destroyers to cover every USNS.

China is in fact messing with our Navy, thus "they didn't get the memo."

You just said we shouldn't do anything about it beyond what we are doing (diplomacy and escorts). We ARE doing something about it, but we aren't going to start blowing up other vessels because some china winkies were waggled at us.

Get a grip.

[Pants]

You just said we shouldn't do anything about it beyond what we are doing (diplomacy and escorts). We ARE doing something about it, but we aren't going to start blowing up other vessels because some china winkies were waggled at us.

Get a grip.

Of course not. All I have been saying is that China is not scared to do these things because they know we're in no position to do anything about it. Just like they aren't in any position to do anything to us if and when we do it to them.

[Donger]

Of course not. All I have been saying is that China is not scared to do these things because they know we're in no position to do anything about it. Just like they aren't in any position to do anything to us if and when we do it to them.

They aren't scared to harass our unarmed ships because they are unarmed. Therefore, they are not capable of anything other than water hose retaliation.

This really isn't that hard to fathom, is it?

[Pants]

They aren't scared to harass our unarmed ships because they are unarmed. Therefore, they are not capable of anything other than water hose retaliation.

This really isn't that hard to fathom, is it?

If Hussein's Iraq does that in 1997, we're starting a hunt to put some mother****ers down, no? It's also just a matter of time before China starts doing these things to armed vessels, if they haven't yet. Weather we like it or not, China is about to be a legit superpower, and as such, the posturing will increase in magnitude.

[Donger]

If Hussein's Iraq does that in 1997, we're starting a hunt to put some mother****ers down, no? It's also just a matter of time before China starts doing these things to armed vessels, if they haven't yet. Weather we like it or not, China is about to be a legit superpower, and as such, the posturing will increase in magnitude.

Well, we had plenty of run-ins with the Soviet Union during the Cold War and we didn't have many nasty incidents happening in response. I don't see why it would or should be any different with China.

[Pants]

Well, we had plenty of run-ins with the Soviet Union during the Cold War and we didn't have many nasty incidents happening in response. I don't see why it would or should be any different with China.

I'm not calling for anything to happen, I'm saying that China, like the USSR is not exactly scared to mess with the US Navy (and vice versa). During the Cold War, people weren't yelling "Don't fuck with us!", they were hoping nothing would happen between the USA and the USSR. China is fast approaching that status.

[Donger]

I'm not calling for anything to happen, I'm saying that China, like the USSR is not exactly scared to mess with the US Navy

Again, and hopefully for the last time, this was an unarmed, civilian-crewed vessel. Of course they aren't scared to harass one of those. When/if they start doing fly-bys of our carriers or playing dodge the wake with one of our destroyers, then you might have a point.

Since they have not (to the best of my knowledge), you don't.

[Pants]

Again, and hopefully for the last time, this was an unarmed, civilian-crewed vessel. Of course they aren't scared to harass one of those. When/if they start doing fly-bys of our carriers or playing dodge the wake with one of our destroyers, then you might have a point.

Since they have not (to the best of my knowledge), you don't.

Fair enough. However, I don't think too many other nations would dare to do anything remotely similar. To me, China is crossing the line and is facing nothing as a result and that speaks volumes.

[Donger]

Fair enough. However, I don't think too many other nations would dare to do anything remotely similar. To me, China is crossing the line and is facing nothing as a result and that speaks volumes.

Mexico openly promotes the illegal invasion of our country. That's a real line.

[CoMoChief]

Yea!! Now Obama wants this pirate tried in the US court system, giving him US citizens rights. Some liberal lawyer wanting to make a name for himself will represent this piece of shit and will want to subponae the navy seals that took down these pirates, then their faces will be all over the news internet and so on, and more attacks will take place against the US because of this, putting their lives and their families lives in danger.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Of course they won't, just like in the Cold War there won't actually be any blood drawn. They'll find a different unescorted vessel to harass without any consequences.

I'm not saying there's any kind of behind the scene's conflict going on or that it's even the beginning stages of a new cold war, but there's def. posturing by the Chinese. It's been going for a while now, as you, yourself, have said.

I also don't think China is exaclty shaking in their boots like so many here seem to think and it's the wrong perception to have.


China does not want to fuck with us. Our government created Walmart just to have them by the balls !

[Skip Towne]

Can't we just all get along?

[Deberg_1990]

Bump...heres the trailer to the movie starring Tom Hanks as Capt. Phillips



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[Johnny Vegas]

hijack a US ship...turn the page....you get killt...turn the page...I fuck your wife.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Would like to see, the ending is so comical where the seals realed them in and shot them all in the head. Fuckin losers ! When does this come out ????