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Archie Bunker
04-13-2009, 03:28 PM
That didn't last long.....

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/04/13/kansas_city_signs_unrestricted_free_agent_lb_zach_thomas/

The Chiefs also waived WR Will Franklin on Monday. Franklin played in 13 games (one start) with the Chiefs in 2008.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-13-2009, 03:28 PM
LMAO, he was worthless anyways

OnTheWarpath15
04-13-2009, 03:29 PM
:popcorn:

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:29 PM
They decided that he sucked already...damn.

doomy3
04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
Wow, talk about fast.

Did we gain anything by waiving him this early though?

Iowanian
04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
MiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I had higher expectations.

He must have been horrible on tape.

Mr. Krab
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PuZoLkvmBbc/SYpEBg793II/AAAAAAAACXw/XauVe1uVMvk/s320/Clifford+Franklin.jpg

Iowanian
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
First in with the "They're making room for Crabtree" post!!!

SenselessChiefsFan
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
That didn't last long.....

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/04/13/kansas_city_signs_unrestricted_free_agent_lb_zach_thomas/

The Chiefs also waived WR Will Franklin on Monday. Franklin played in 13 games (one start) with the Chiefs in 2008.

Wow. Why now? Seriously. I don't know that he had any legal trouble, or anything. So, why not at least take him to camp?

KCChiefsMan
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
damn, I guess he sucks worse than we all thought? Or they just cut him because he is Missouri scum? the latter makes more sense :)

Pablo
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Wow..I liked the dude as much as any KU fan possibly could..I guess I totally didn't see this coming.

LaChapelle
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Not even worthy of a training camp. That settles it they're drafting Crabtree!

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Wow, talk about fast.

Did we gain anything by waiving him this early though?

Yea...a roster spot.

the Talking Can
04-13-2009, 03:32 PM
wow


wtf?


thanks herm

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:32 PM
ROFL

But Herm was still a great evaluator of talent!

Hali, McBride, Pollard. The list of difference makers goes on...

SenselessChiefsFan
04-13-2009, 03:32 PM
Hmmm..... maybe he was one of the very few absences at the offseason conditioning program?

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:32 PM
If they don't view him as a starter and he doesn't play special teams that would probably explain it...

Iowanian
04-13-2009, 03:32 PM
I wonder if he showed up to lift weights looking like Butterbean or something?

Mr. Flopnuts
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Hmmm..... maybe he was one of the very few absences at the offseason conditioning program?

That would be reason enough.

doomy3
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Yea...a roster spot.

Obviously.

But it's not like we need to clear room right now do we? I'm surprised they didn't at least bring him to camp. Don't really care whatsoever, but just didn't know if there was a legitimate reason to waive him now.

the Talking Can
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
"85% of our roster is set"

- Some Clown

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Obviously.

But it's not like we need to clear room right now do we? I'm surprised they didn't at least bring him to camp. Don't really care whatsoever, but just didn't know if there was a legitimate reason to waive him now.

They're not clearing room cutting him either way it's not about that 4th round draft picks don't make much money.

They're cutting him because they think he sucks and doesn't fit.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-13-2009, 03:34 PM
Obviously.

But it's not like we need to clear room right now do we? I'm surprised they didn't at least bring him to camp. Don't really care whatsoever, but just didn't know if there was a legitimate reason to waive him now.

He pissed someone off in the front office. Otherwise, you're right.

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:34 PM
"85% of our roster is set to get replaced in 2 years."

- Pioli

FYP

To reflect our current reality.

ChiefRon
04-13-2009, 03:34 PM
Now that's interesting...already saying our 4th round pick last year sucked + a 7th round pick wasted...

What happened to the A+ everybody gave us for our draft?

Micjones
04-13-2009, 03:35 PM
Wow... Just like that?
This should be a wake-up call to players on this team.

They haven't even taken the field for OTA's and he's gone.

RustShack
04-13-2009, 03:35 PM
But Missouri fans told me he was our future #2 receiver..

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:35 PM
FYP

To reflect our current reality.

Pretty much which is why I just shake my head when I read posts like all these guys we have now are gonna be part of it.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:36 PM
Now that's interesting...already saying our 4th round pick last year sucked + a 7th round pick wasted...

What happened to the A+ everybody gave us for our draft?

New regimes don't view players the same way.

chiefs1111
04-13-2009, 03:36 PM
well that was a nice waste of a pick

LaChapelle
04-13-2009, 03:36 PM
Daniel will have company on the draft days waits.

gblowfish
04-13-2009, 03:36 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PuZoLkvmBbc/SYpEBg793II/AAAAAAAACXw/XauVe1uVMvk/s320/Clifford+Franklin.jpg

Clifford Franklin says Clifford Franklin needs a job.
Clifford Franklin says he knows how Will Franklin is feelin' right now.
That's all Clifford Franklin has to say about Clifford Franklin.

chiefs1111
04-13-2009, 03:37 PM
So I wonder when Kevin Robinson will be cut

Rooster
04-13-2009, 03:37 PM
I heard that he was a close friend to a brother in law of a lurker on CP. Well said lurker started a thread about potential moves KC was making and Pioli found out.

Pablo
04-13-2009, 03:38 PM
well that was a nice waste of a pickDorsey can be too.

Pioli has no loyalty to any of the players drafted before he showed up.

ChiefRon
04-13-2009, 03:38 PM
New regimes don't view players the same way.

the last part was sarcastic, maybe Pioli & Haley didn't read that we earned an A+ for that draft...how dare they cut them!

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:38 PM
Pretty much which is why I just shake my head when I read posts like all these guys we have now are gonna be part of it.

There are very few nuggets of real information that we've had since the new hires took charge, but the "22 players off the street" criticism, probably wasn't lip service from the HC's point of view.

We know Haley essentially said, "This team is complete shit." Why shouldn't we believe his evaluation?

Deberg_1990
04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
What happened to the A+ everybody gave us for our draft?

This is why its silly to grade drafts until at least 2 or 3 years down the road.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
I won't be at all surprised if Dorsey isn't here in a year or 2.

Micjones
04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Dorsey can be too.

Pioli has no loyalty to any of the players drafted before he showed up.

No way they just pink-slip Dorsey.
That'd be plain stupid.

Franklin being walked this early in the game is surprising, but not completely unreasonable.
He was a 4th Round pick.

They DO NOT let a 5th overall pick hit the streets with nothing to show for him.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-13-2009, 03:40 PM
If they don't view him as a starter and he doesn't play special teams that would probably explain it...

Not really, not before training camp. He was a low salaried player. He was a young player, he had size and speed. There was no reason to cut him prior to camp unless he wasn't 'buying in'.

Are you telling me that Jeff Webb isn't getting cut before Franklin if it wasn't an attitude problem?

RustShack
04-13-2009, 03:40 PM
So I wonder when Kevin Robinson will be cut

Well since he can actually play ST's he might last through training camp at least...

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:41 PM
These guys seem to value guys who can play special teams more than most...remember when we carried Samie Parker as a backup yet he didn't play special teams, I doubt these guys would do that.

RustShack
04-13-2009, 03:41 PM
Not really, not before training camp. He was a low salaried player. He was a young player, he had size and speed. There was no reason to cut him prior to camp unless he wasn't 'buying in'.

Are you telling me that Jeff Webb isn't getting cut before Franklin if it wasn't an attitude problem?

Jeff Webb can play ST's. Hes a better overall receiver, and isn't from a spread offense...

luv
04-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Hmm. Too bad.

Pablo
04-13-2009, 03:42 PM
No way they just pink-slip Dorsey.
That'd be plain stupid.

Franklin being walked this early in the game is surprising, but not completely unreasonable.
He was a 4th Round pick.

They DO NOT let a 5th overall pick hit the streets with nothing to show for him.No, but they could decide he's useless and we might not get much of anything out of him.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:43 PM
They obviously hate spread players, Tyler Thigpen is now on notice!

Hootie
04-13-2009, 03:43 PM
Now that's interesting...already saying our 4th round pick last year sucked + a 7th round pick wasted...

What happened to the A+ everybody gave us for our draft?

Albert and Flowers are players.

Dorsey is going to be good (somewhere)...

Charles is a valuable commodity to any team as an explosive 3rd down back.

Carr looked pretty good.

Jury is out on Morgan and Cottam.

Who gives a shit about Franklin, Robinson, Merritt, Johnston, etc...

We knew we weren't going to be 12 for 12 with 12 pro bowlers...if 3 become pro bowlers it's an all-time great draft for god's sake.

Micjones
04-13-2009, 03:44 PM
No, but they could decide he's useless and we might not get much of anything out of him.

They'll do their best to work with him for a year or two before they'd just cut him.

Now if they can find teams are interested in acquiring him...
They might trade him.

Great Expectations
04-13-2009, 03:44 PM
Now that's interesting...already saying our 4th round pick last year sucked + a 7th round pick wasted...

What happened to the A+ everybody gave us for our draft?

We received the A+ for picks made on the first day, not the 2nd day. Everyone loved how Albert and Dorsey fell to us, along with the CB's we picked.

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:45 PM
Albert and Flowers are players.

Dorsey is going to be good (somewhere)...

Charles is a valuable commodity to any team as an explosive 3rd down back.

Carr looked pretty good.

Jury is out on Morgan and Cottam.

Who gives a shit about Franklin, Robinson, Merritt, Johnston, etc...

We knew we weren't going to be 12 for 12 with 12 pro bowlers...if 3 become pro bowlers it's an all-time great draft for god's sake.

Last year's draft looks a lot better for the 4-3, though. :mad:

RustShack
04-13-2009, 03:46 PM
They obviously hate spread players, Tyler Thigpen is now on notice!

I think Haley and Gailey would like a guy like Thigpen. He can line up at QB a few snaps, RB, and WR. Really hes a good gadget player that might be good for a few crazy plays here and there. I don't think he should be a starter by any means though at any position.

LaChapelle
04-13-2009, 03:46 PM
well that was a nice waste of a pick

He turned out to be useful as an important message to the rest the team.

Hootie
04-13-2009, 03:46 PM
I won't be at all surprised if Dorsey isn't here in a year or 2.

Trade him to god damn Tampa Bay for their first round pick...

You can't tell me some team wouldn't pay a mid-late first for a guy with Dorsey's skill set.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-13-2009, 03:49 PM
The football's like a one-man cold to Will Franklin. Will Franklin's the only man catchin' it, Will Franklin's the only man comin' down wid it.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:gVl1GR7OpABPjM:http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/12-07/1205mo.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/12-07/1205mo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/ksherrington/stories/120507dnsposherrington.2203b63.html&h=165&w=225&sz=16&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=gVl1GR7OpABPjM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=108&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwilliam%2Bfranklin%2Bmo%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN)Ouch.

Hootie
04-13-2009, 03:49 PM
Last year's draft looks a lot better for the 4-3, though. :mad:

Flowers is a player...

If Albert and Cottam work out...Charles continues being that change of pace, 700 total yard specialty back, and we can get something out of Dorsey...

Draft works for me.

People have these ridiculous expectations from every draft class and expect every pick to work out...when really, 1, 2, 3 MAYBE 4 guys from every draft class ever amount to anything...

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:51 PM
Well generally you'd like a 4th round pick to be some kind of contributor even if it's just as a backup.

If you're gonna trade Dorsey his value is going to probably go down every year from here on out unless he's good so we wouldn't wanna trade him.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-13-2009, 03:51 PM
Trade him to god damn Tampa Bay for their first round pick...

You can't tell me some team wouldn't pay a mid-late first for a guy with Dorsey's skill set.

If the Chiefs don't think he fits, then there is NO reason not to trade him. There was a consensus last year that he was no worse than the second best player in the draft.

Normally, it would be prohibitive with the cap, but THIS year, we have plenty of cap.

If he is here, then I think it is because the Chiefs feel like he fits. If not, there is no reason to keep him at a huge salary and put him on the field to drive down his trade value.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:53 PM
If you wanna trade him call Buffalo, they're desperate to make the playoffs and their 11th pick sits in no mans land for what they need.

Buehler445
04-13-2009, 03:53 PM
Wow. Damn. Didn't see that coming. I was hoping he would be a contributor. He looked pretty solid in preseason prior to the knee injury.

It would have been nice if he could have developed into a #2. Damn. Guess not.

(I'm a KU fan)
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DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:53 PM
Flowers is a player...

If Albert and Cottam work out...Charles continues being that change of pace, 700 total yard specialty back, and we can get something out of Dorsey...

Draft works for me.

People have these ridiculous expectations from every draft class and expect every pick to work out...when really, 1, 2, 3 MAYBE 4 guys from every draft class ever amount to anything...

I like Albert and Flowers a lot. They look like two of the better players this organization has selected in some time.

That said, if we shit the bed on a top-5 pick, or completely burn the pick by putting him a scheme he cannot succeed in, it will be hard for me to look back at the '08 draft with nothing but warm, fuzzy feelings.

Tiger's Fan
04-13-2009, 03:53 PM
Not really, not before training camp. He was a low salaried player. He was a young player, he had size and speed. There was no reason to cut him prior to camp unless he wasn't 'buying in'.

Are you telling me that Jeff Webb isn't getting cut before Franklin if it wasn't an attitude problem?

They're going in alphabetical order.

Edit: Mizzou garbage

booger
04-13-2009, 03:54 PM
He made a big catch on a deep seem route in the preseason on a throw by Brody but didn't do much else especially after a late Preseason knee inj. Ran a 4.3 at the combine but wasn't a very good route runner. Copper apparently is a speedster even at 6' 200 lbs and more valueable as a good special teams contibutor.

Hootie
04-13-2009, 03:54 PM
If you wanna trade him call Buffalo, they're desperate to make the playoffs and their 11th pick sits in no mans land for what they need.

they can have LJ, too.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:55 PM
We'll probably also take a WR at some point in the draft, we do need another starter...

Mecca
04-13-2009, 03:55 PM
they can have LJ, too.

They got 2 RB's you could probably get them to take Waters though.

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 03:56 PM
We'll probably also take a WR at some point in the draft, we do need another starter...

Fitz II, FTW.

booger
04-13-2009, 03:57 PM
earlier in one of haley's q/a's he mentioned he liked Bradley too. But we all know with bradley its whether or not he can stay healthy.

Hootie
04-13-2009, 03:59 PM
They got 2 RB's you could probably get them to take Waters though.
#11 pick for Dorsey would be awesome, but we'd probably have to add something.

Frazod
04-13-2009, 04:01 PM
They're going in alphabetical order.

Edit: Mizzou garbage

Good thing we kept all the guys on our roster from KU.

Oh wait....

booger
04-13-2009, 04:03 PM
wouldn't be shocked to see multiple teams claim him though.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:05 PM
Fitz II, FTW.

This guy?

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Sweet Daddy Hate
04-13-2009, 04:05 PM
Good thing we kept all the guys on our roster from KU.

Oh wait....

This. :LOL:

Demonpenz
04-13-2009, 04:06 PM
Franklin is going to look good in a bears uniform.

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 04:09 PM
This guy?


Nope. Gonna play both ways:

http://images.chron.com/blogs/fanblogtexans/aaron%20curry.jpg

Demonpenz
04-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Ironic his nfl equivilant coming out was Joe Horn

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Nope. Gonna play both ways:

http://images.chron.com/blogs/fanblogtexans/aaron%20curry.jpg

Ahahaha..

I think Nicks is gonna be really good after really going through I finally figured out what he is...Eric Moulds.

Priest31kc
04-13-2009, 04:11 PM
cant say im not a little bummed about this, I really dont understand it but oh well. Franklin was one of my fav players at Mizzou and was really happy when we drafted him, I just cant believe they cut him before training camp, doesnt make sense.

rockymtnchief
04-13-2009, 04:13 PM
This guy?

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One of my favorite WR's in this draft.

Spott
04-13-2009, 04:14 PM
Well, at least now he has a shot of playing in a Super Bowl one day assuming that the Chiefs don't pick him up again.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-13-2009, 04:16 PM
Well, at least now he has a shot of playing in a Super Bowl one day assuming that the Chiefs don't pick him up again.

:cuss:

CupidStunt
04-13-2009, 04:20 PM
Obviously a story behind this -- wonder what it is.

Pioli Zombie
04-13-2009, 04:22 PM
These guys seem to value guys who can play special teams more than most...remember when we carried Samie Parker as a backup yet he didn't play special teams, I doubt these guys would do that.

The Patriot way. You are capable of doing more than one thing or you are gone unless your name is Tom Brady.

They also will keep who is a value to the team regardless of past years drafting mistakes. Better to start fresh and do things right than to keep a stiff to save face for past regimes.
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EyePod
04-13-2009, 04:25 PM
damn, I guess he sucks worse than we all thought? Or they just cut him because he is Missouri scum? the latter makes more sense :)

I'm pretty sure that his 41% catch rate has something to do with it.

EyePod
04-13-2009, 04:27 PM
ROFL

But Herm was still a great evaluator of talent!

Hali, McBride, Pollard. The list of difference makers goes on...

Why is Pollard so bad? Because Herm couldn't figure out how to use him correctly? And the fact that he got better significantly last year? Good point on the other two though.

chiefs1111
04-13-2009, 04:27 PM
Maybe we cut Franklin to make room to sign Amani Toomer??

Stewie
04-13-2009, 04:28 PM
The knock against him coming out of MU was that he had problems catching the ball. That's kind of important.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:29 PM
Why is Pollard so bad? Because Herm couldn't figure out how to use him correctly? And the fact that he got better significantly last year? Good point on the other two though.

I think people get tired of watching Pollard go for big hits and whiff...or being out of position then running slowly back, it's a big combination it's like he's never learned anything.

Stop going for the kill shot you always miss, stop taking gambles like you have recovery speed when it's obvious you don't.

I'll still never forget that play last year when Pollard came in and tried to hit the RB high and basically fell over backwards on his ass as the RB looked at him.

chiefs1111
04-13-2009, 04:31 PM
I think people get tired of watching Pollard go for big hits and whiff...or being out of position then running slowly back, it's a big combination it's like he's never learned anything.

Stop going for the kill shot you always miss, stop taking gambles like you have recovery speed when it's obvious you don't.

I'll still never forget that play last year when Pollard came in and tried to hit the RB high and basically fell over backwards on his ass as the RB looked at him.

And whats even worse is he isn't blocking punts anymore. He at least had that going for him for a little while

booger
04-13-2009, 04:32 PM
did he wave back?

DeezNutz
04-13-2009, 04:33 PM
Why is Pollard so bad? Because Herm couldn't figure out how to use him correctly? And the fact that he got better significantly last year? Good point on the other two though.

You're faster than Pollard, and you probably tackle better, too.

Pitt Gorilla
04-13-2009, 04:34 PM
I noted prior to the draft that Franklin was the 4th or 5th best receiver on that MU team. That being said, I thought he had the talent to stick. If his knee is healed, I would bet that he gets another chance somewhere.

chiefs1111
04-13-2009, 04:37 PM
I noted prior to the draft that Franklin was the 4th or 5th best receiver on that MU team. That being said, I thought he had the talent to stick. If his knee is healed, I would bet that he gets another chance somewhere.

Oh im sure he will be picked by someone for at least a look in training camp.

OnTheWarpath15
04-13-2009, 04:40 PM
Oh im sure he will be picked by someone for at least a look in training camp.

If I'm the Rams or Bears, I've already put in a claim for him.

RealSNR
04-13-2009, 04:42 PM
I just had a funny feeling this guy would be dogshit when we drafted him.

And no, it wasn't because he was from Mizzou.

RealSNR
04-13-2009, 04:43 PM
Also, I'm laughing at some of these posts. Will Franklin gets cut... therefore all of the players drafted last year suck balls. Uh-huh. Right.

People were just getting hopeful for Dorsey's play next year, and then Franklin gets cut. Now all of a sudden cutting a WR makes Dorsey worthless on this team?

Bullshit.

SAUTO
04-13-2009, 04:44 PM
They obviously hate spread players, Tyler Thigpen is now on notice!

so they cut a WR and that means they "hate spread players" ROFL you are funny this shit from you used to REALLY piss me off, now i understand what you are all about and its fucking hilarious

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:48 PM
so they cut a WR and that means they "hate spread players" ROFL you are funny this shit from you used to REALLY piss me off, now i understand what you are all about and its fucking hilarious

The fact that you don't know what a joke is from a serious post is pretty concerning.

It really pisses you off that you can't understand the difference?

SAUTO
04-13-2009, 04:49 PM
The fact that you don't know what a joke is from a serious post is pretty concerning.

It really pisses you off that you can't understand the difference?

i knew it was a joke mecca, your "jokes" used to piss me off, now they are funny. read much?

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:50 PM
Maybe you need to lighten up.

SAUTO
04-13-2009, 04:50 PM
Maybe you need to lighten up.

damn man read my first post on this again, i HAVE lightened up.

RealSNR
04-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Everybody needs to calm down, I think.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Oh nevermind lol....

KCBOSS1
04-13-2009, 04:52 PM
I thought he looked good in the preseason. I was disappointed when he got hurt.

SAUTO
04-13-2009, 04:52 PM
:DOh nevermind lol....

like i said "read much":D

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:53 PM
It all ran together on me.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 04:53 PM
I thought he looked good in the preseason. I was disappointed when he got hurt.

Well that Maurice Price guy looked great in preseason where's he?

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-13-2009, 04:54 PM
Okay, Brokie has GOT to be headed back to the apple farm after this shit!

There is NO WAY IN HELL that fool remains on this roster. NO...WAY...IN...HELL.

Book It!

Dave Lane
04-13-2009, 04:59 PM
This guy?

Now that's a mother fucking bad ass receiver

booger
04-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Well that Maurice Price guy looked great in preseason where's he?

Ironically, New England.

Reaper16
04-13-2009, 05:05 PM
The knock against him coming out of MU was that he had problems catching the ball. That's kind of important.
And anyone who watched MU games could confirm it.

seaofred
04-13-2009, 05:05 PM
Dang, we lost a preseason Pro Bowler... Oh well.

OnTheWarpath15
04-13-2009, 05:06 PM
Ironically, New England.

He was cut a week or so after the Pats picked him up.

He's now in San Francisco, IIRC.

Micjones
04-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Let's not pretend the guy couldn't have become something in the NFL.
This would be just his second season.
We don't know yet what just went out the door.

RealSNR
04-13-2009, 05:10 PM
Let's not pretend the guy couldn't have become something in the NFL.
This would be just his second season.
We don't know yet what just went out the door.We don't know what goes out the door for ANY young player we cut. It's the same for every NFL team.

Christ, how about we just say he sucks? The coaching staff thinks he sucks, and that's why he's out of here.

Maybe he'll hook on with another team. If he shows up on a stat sheet, I'm sure people will pull down their pants and start masturbating. But I'm going to go with the 99% odds that he'll be nothing in the NFL.

booger
04-13-2009, 05:13 PM
He was cut a week or so after the Pats picked him up.

He's now in San Francisco, IIRC.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1207069

you are right. bastard.







:D

the Talking Can
04-13-2009, 05:14 PM
so either they looked at tape and decided he couldn't even compete for the 4th WR slot on a 2-14 team

or they determined he wasn't "committed" in the patriot...err, Chiefs way...


either way, a damning judgment on a young player...

The Bad Guy
04-13-2009, 05:18 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs are one of 4 teams meeting with Crabtree this week.

If Gonzalez is gone, a WR threat moves up to near the top of the list.

DaneMcCloud
04-13-2009, 05:20 PM
Let's not pretend the guy couldn't have become something in the NFL.
This would be just his second season.
We don't know yet what just went out the door.

"We" don't.

Obviously, Pioli and Haley do.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 05:21 PM
God damn it I want Hakeem Nicks not Michael Crabtree.

whoman69
04-13-2009, 05:23 PM
Any bets on when Devard Darling hits the road?

The Bad Guy
04-13-2009, 05:23 PM
God damn it I want Hakeem Nicks not Michael Crabtree.

I can't say the same.

Mecca
04-13-2009, 05:24 PM
I'd take DHB before I took Crabtree, I just don't have a good feeling about him.

keg in kc
04-13-2009, 05:25 PM
Little surprised, but not enough to say more then 'eh'.

Shag
04-13-2009, 05:33 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs are one of 4 teams meeting with Crabtree this week.

If Gonzalez is gone, a WR threat moves up to near the top of the list.

I have a hard time believing KC wouldn't meet with him, if for nothing more than due diligence...

Chiefs Pantalones
04-13-2009, 05:53 PM
We needed a WR before trade talks of Gonzo came up, and before the release of the great Will Franklin. Because of who our head coach is, I could see us taking a WR, but it's gotta be ok with both Haley and Pioli. They work together.

BWillie
04-13-2009, 06:09 PM
Just making room for the crop of KU receivers next year.

alanm
04-13-2009, 06:49 PM
Also, I'm laughing at some of these posts. Will Franklin gets cut... therefore all of the players drafted last year suck balls. Uh-huh. Right.

People were just getting hopeful for Dorsey's play next year, and then Franklin gets cut. Now all of a sudden cutting a WR makes Dorsey worthless on this team?

Bullshit.It's all about instant gratification with this crowd. If you don't make All Pro as a 1st rnder your rookie season you're a bust. :spock:

evolve27
04-13-2009, 06:52 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PuZoLkvmBbc/SYpEBg793II/AAAAAAAACXw/XauVe1uVMvk/s320/Clifford+Franklin.jpg

First in with the "They're making room for Crabtree" post!!!

LOL

ChiefsCountry
04-13-2009, 06:55 PM
With their love of special teams and Pioli's history of picking Big 12 players I will throw out a complete darkhorse at 3 - Maclin.

Spott
04-13-2009, 06:57 PM
With their love of special teams and Pioli's history of picking Big 12 players I will throw out a complete darkhorse at 3 - Maclin.

Maclin doesn't deserve to go that high in the draft. He'll probably end up going to Jacksonville at 8 or further down in the first round.

evolve27
04-13-2009, 06:58 PM
With their love of special teams and Pioli's history of picking Big 12 players I will throw out a complete darkhorse at 3 - Maclin.

Cassel deep to Maclin........WOW....i hope he's the first one taken, then DHB, then Craptree simply cuz of his system.....

Mecca
04-13-2009, 07:00 PM
Maclin doesn't deserve to go that high in the draft. He'll probably end up going to Jacksonville at 8 or further down in the first round.

Dude, he's going to the Raiders.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-13-2009, 07:55 PM
Just making room for the crop of KU receivers next year.

Sir, your transport to the scenario you just outlined is ready:

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/10/104169/22_2008/3208859.preview.jpg

Sure-Oz
04-13-2009, 10:40 PM
Wow talk about a waste of a pick, atleast let the kid battle for a spot...oh well

Hope he does well somewhere else

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 12:47 AM
Now that I've had time to think about this, I'm fucking pissed.

The Franklin pick could have been Carl Nicks.

Think about THAT, Chiefs fans...

RustShack
04-14-2009, 12:48 AM
Sources close to the situation said Kansas City cut receiver Will Franklin on Monday because he didn't fit the new regime's system.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 12:51 AM
Now that I've had time to think about this, I'm ****ing pissed.

The Franklin pick could have been Carl Nicks.

Think about THAT, Chiefs fans...
and the Jared Allen pick could have been Richard Seigler damnit!

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 12:56 AM
and the Jared Allen pick could have been Richard Seigler damnit!

Who?

:shake:

Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:08 AM
Who?

:shake:

Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?
The guy that was drafted 1 pick after Jared Allen...we could have had that guy!

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:10 AM
The guy that was drafted 1 pick after Jared Allen...we could have had that guy!

Um, apparently you don't know anything about Carl Nicks and how his selection last year would have affected this year's draft.

Immensely.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:13 AM
Um, apparently you don't know anything about Carl Nicks and how his selection last year would have affected this year's draft.

Immensely.

we needed a WR last year...

The guy we took in the 4th round didn't pan out...

I think pointing out a guy we could have taken instead is just retarded. We could play that game all day long.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:17 AM
Well Carl Nicks was on the radar for a long time people thought he had all these character issues then he becomes a what 5th or 6th round drafted RT that starts 16 games.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:18 AM
we needed a WR last year...

The guy we took in the 4th round didn't pan out...

I think pointing out a guy we could have taken instead is just retarded. We could play that game all day long.

Bullshit.

There were MANY people in this forum (myself included) that were PISSED that Nicks was sitting there in the fourth round (he was projected to be a 2nd rounder) and the Chiefs took a project receiver.

All Nicks did was start 15 games at right tackle for the best offense in the league.

You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit replies.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:18 AM
Well Carl Nicks was on the radar for a long time people thought he had all these character issues then he becomes a what 5th or 6th round drafted RT that starts 16 games.

5th rounder to the Saints

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:20 AM
Bullshit.

There were MANY people in this forum (myself included) that were PISSED that Nicks was sitting there in the fourth round (he was projected to be a 2nd rounder) and the Chiefs took a project receiver.

All Nicks did was start 15 games at right tackle for the best offense in the league.

You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit replies.

I wish we would have gotten all of the best players in every round, too...

BryanBusby
04-14-2009, 01:21 AM
Bullshit.

There were MANY people in this forum (myself included) that were PISSED that Nicks was sitting there in the fourth round (he was projected to be a 2nd rounder) and the Chiefs took a project receiver.

All Nicks did was start 15 games at right tackle for the best offense in the league.

You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit replies.
Uh, I'm pretty sure he is playing Guard. Still, this team would of been a lot less awful if Adrian Jones wasn't playing RG.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:21 AM
I wish we would have gotten all of the best players in every round, too...

Oh, just go pee on one of your roommates.

JFC.

PS - Urine is NOT sterile.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:22 AM
Uh, I'm pretty sure he is playing Guard. Still, this team would of been a lot less awful if Adrian Jones wasn't playing RG.

Uh, so what?

Edit: I put tackle. My bad.

STILL

Smed1065
04-14-2009, 01:24 AM
Bullshit.

There were MANY people in this forum (myself included) that were PISSED that Nicks was sitting there in the fourth round (he was projected to be a 2nd rounder) and the Chiefs took a project receiver.

All Nicks did was start 15 games at right tackle for the best offense in the league.

You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit replies.

Guess you are inside info. LOL.

I am not but I said so! Nicks is it? LOL Loser

Kiss my ring because I am west coast and we R better than Midwestern!


Just ask espn. and My tude!


\Told you so.

LOL
\

ChiefsCountry
04-14-2009, 01:24 AM
Go do a search for Carl Nicks, there is like 3 or 4 Draft Day threads about the guy. Imagine that Hootie the Rapist being a dumbfuck again.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:25 AM
Uh, so what?

Edit: I put tackle. My bad.

STILL
You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit draft day what if's from the year before.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:26 AM
Go do a search for Carl Nicks, there is like 3 or 4 Draft Day threads about the guy. Imagine that Hootie the Rapist being a dumb**** again.

who gives a shit?

everyone was pretty pumped about Will Franklin...

Sometimes a pick doesn't work...

OMG we missed out on a decent guard it's the end of the fucking world!

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:27 AM
You really need to have a little more info about the situation before just posting bullshit draft day what if's from the year before.

Yeah, because I know what the fuck I'm talking about and you don't.

Go pee on your mom.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:27 AM
who gives a shit?

everyone was pretty pumped about Will Franklin...

Sometimes a pick doesn't work...

OMG we missed out on a decent guard it's the end of the fucking world!

EVERYONE?

The rumors are true: You're a fucking moron.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:28 AM
I'm not the one crying about Carl fucking Nicks a year after the fact.

I think we'll be ok.

LMAO

BryanBusby
04-14-2009, 01:29 AM
Uh, so what?

Edit: I put tackle. My bad.

STILL

Way to save face, as you even originally typed out a post insisting I was wrong in a fashion that appears you could use a bucket to leak your vagina into. At least know what the fuck you're talking about if you're going to be a raging douche bag about it.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:29 AM
all of you drafturbators were sure jerkin' it when we drafted Brian Johnston...look how good he turned out!

Who knows if Nicks would have done jack shit with the idiots we had coaching last year.

Smed1065
04-14-2009, 01:29 AM
Uh, so what?

Edit: I put tackle. My bad.

STILL

So just Curious. You work for NFL teams?

Or just an ass? Thinks it was wrong because you suck and and was wrong again?
\
Yes you are insider-LOL

I am right, cause I work in music?

I am rich bitch-LOL...............

I am right because I sucked 6 of 10?

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:30 AM
Way to save face, as you even originally typed out a post insisting I was wrong in a fashion that appears you could use a bucket to leak your vagina into. At least know what the **** you're talking about if you're going to be a raging douche bag about it.

ROFL

IF ONLY WE HAD DRAFTED CARL NICKS!!! OUR ENTIRE DRAFT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER THIS YEAR! WE'D HAVE OUR RG POSITION LOCKED UP! THAT MEANS WE COULD SPEND OUR 5TH ROUND PICK ON SOMETHING WE NEED...LIKE A GUNNER ON SPECIAL TEAMS...OR HELL, WE COULD FEEL FRISKY AND TAKE ANOTHER TE!

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:34 AM
People got all excited about Franklin because of where he went to college...

And if we had gotten Nicks last year we'd have our 2 OT's and then we wouldn't hear any of this dipshit stuff about taking Monroe and we'd only need 1 or 2 lineman instead of 2 or 3.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:34 AM
People got all excited about Franklin because of where he went to college...

And if we had gotten Nicks last year we'd have our 2 OT's and then we wouldn't hear any of this dipshit stuff about taking Monroe and we'd only need 1 or 2 lineman instead of 2 or 3.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:34 AM
Ah I love when the forum double posts.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:35 AM
Way to save face, as you even originally typed out a post insisting I was wrong in a fashion that appears you could use a bucket to leak your vagina into. At least know what the fuck you're talking about if you're going to be a raging douche bag about it.

Go fuck yourself, n00b.

Just because he's at left guard for the Saints doesn't mean that he wouldn't have been THE right tackle for the Chiefs.

Eat my fucking shit.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:36 AM
People got all excited about Franklin because of where he went to college...

And if we had gotten Nicks last year we'd have our 2 OT's and then we wouldn't hear any of this dipshit stuff about taking Monroe and we'd only need 1 or 2 lineman instead of 2 or 3.

Exactly.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:36 AM
ROFL

IF ONLY WE HAD DRAFTED CARL NICKS!!! OUR ENTIRE DRAFT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER THIS YEAR! WE'D HAVE OUR RG POSITION LOCKED UP! THAT MEANS WE COULD SPEND OUR 5TH ROUND PICK ON SOMETHING WE NEED...LIKE A GUNNER ON SPECIAL TEAMS...OR HELL, WE COULD FEEL FRISKY AND TAKE ANOTHER TE!

Oh shut the fuck up

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:37 AM
Either way the point is he's a starting offensive lineman taken in the 5th round. Those are the kind of things you have to hit on to be a successful team.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:37 AM
I'm not the one crying about Carl fucking Nicks a year after the fact.

I think we'll be ok.

LMAO

Really, cockface?

Do you think that the idea of Monroe at #3 would even be an option if the Chiefs had taken Nicks?

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:38 AM
all of you drafturbators were sure jerkin' it when we drafted Brian Johnston...look how good he turned out!

Who knows if Nicks would have done jack shit with the idiots we had coaching last year.

Again.

Bull.

Fucking.

Shit.

He was projected as a 2nd rounder, Dumbfuck.

He got arrested close to the draft, knocking his stock down.

You REALLY are a fucking moron of epic proportions.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:39 AM
Idiots...we drafted Barry Richardson...wasn't everyone buzzing about him? It's the same god damn pick.

Sure...your boy Nicks excelled at LG for 13 games for the Saints...does that mean he would have been some amazing RT for us? Who the fuck knows. Last time I checked...LG wasn't RT...and it took a substance abuse policy for Nicks to even see the field.

He probably would have had the same role as Barry Richardson had for us last year...whooopee! (Which is why making those comparisons is just stupid...but shit, it's Dane McCloud, the cooooolest dude on the Planet!)

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:39 AM
The Saints offensive line is a great example of how you build a line late, they have several lower drafted players starting and performing well on a top offense on that line.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:40 AM
I actually like Barry Richardson but no one in their right mind is going to tell you he was the same prospect as Nicks..some people thought Nicks could play LT and at the very worst would be a very good RT.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:41 AM
Really, cockface?

Do you think that the idea of Monroe at #3 would even be an option if the Chiefs had taken Nicks?
Last I checked Nicks was a starting LG for the Saints...so if Pioli and Co. are really thinking Monroe...then yeah, probably...considering we already have a LT. So if our current LT isn't thought of by the new regime as the future at that position...then I don't see what Carl Nicks would have to do with the #3 and the Monroe possibility (even though I highly doubt we end up taking Monroe)...

So go...

BULL..

FUCKING...

SHIT!

yourself

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:41 AM
I actually like Barry Richardson but no one in their right mind is going to tell you he was the same prospect as Nicks..some people thought Nicks could play LT and at the very worst would be a very good RT.
well we know one thing...he makes a pretty decent LG...we don't really know anything else

ChiefsCountry
04-14-2009, 01:42 AM
Again.

Bull.

****ing.

Shit.

He was projected as a 2nd rounder, Dumb****.

He got arrested close to the draft, knocking his stock down.

You REALLY are a ****ing moron of epic proportions.

He got arrested for being Hootie.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:42 AM
and Dane made the whole Nicks reference because he thought he was a RT...therefore it's a moot point...Dane fucked up. So Dane, just apologize, and we'll move on. Sound good?

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:42 AM
Oh Jesus...he's only starting at guard because they have tackles, he profiled out as a OT going into the draft. They can put him at guard because they needed a player there and they took him in the 5th round but the guy has a OT skill set.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:43 AM
He got arrested for being Hootie.
I'm white, it's hard for me to get arrested.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:43 AM
Idiots...we drafted Barry Richardson...wasn't everyone buzzing about him? It's the same god damn pick.

No, it's not.

Nicks started 15 games. Go to NFL.com. Richardson didn't see the field and has MAJOR issues.

Dumbass.

Sure...your boy Nicks excelled at LG for 13 games for the Saints...does that mean he would have been some amazing RT for us? Who the fuck knows. Last time I checked...LG wasn't RT...and it took a substance abuse policy for Nicks to even see the field.

He played LG because that's what the Saints needed. He would have been a right tackle for the Chiefs.

And a solution for at least the next 5 years.


He probably would have had the same role as Barry Richardson had for us last year...whooopee! (Which is why making those comparisons is just stupid...but shit, it's Dane McCloud, the cooooolest dude on the Planet!)

So, are you saying that Barry Richardson would have started for the Saints?

Really?

Really?

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:44 AM
and Dane made the whole Nicks reference because he thought he was a RT...therefore it's a moot point...Dane fucked up. So Dane, just apologize, and we'll move on. Sound good?

Lick your roommate's cock and we're even.

Valiant
04-14-2009, 01:44 AM
But Missouri fans told me he was our future #2 receiver..

Maybe for somebody else?? Joe Horn would never have become the WR he is if he was stuck here in the system at the time..

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:44 AM
Oh Jesus...he's only starting at guard because they have tackles, he profiled out as a OT going into the draft. They can put him at guard because they needed a player there and they took him in the 5th round but the guy has a OT skill set.
Meh.

That could be true...probably is true. He went late in the 5th round...Dane is acting like he would have been our savior. That's just stupid...Will Franklin is not dictating who we take at #3...that's just fucking crazy talk.

But I'll give it to you...that Nicks cat sure seems like a quality LG!

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:45 AM
After this can we please not draft spread WR's anymore.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:46 AM
No, it's not.

Nicks started 15 games. Go to NFL.com. Richardson didn't see the field and has MAJOR issues.

Dumbass.



He played LG because that's what the Saints needed. He would have been a right tackle for the Chiefs.

And a solution for at least the next 5 years.




So, are you saying that Barry Richardson would have started for the Saints?

Really?

Really?

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

I read that he started 13 games...

and if the Chiefs had selected Nicks, who the fuck knows what would have happened...I know that we surely don't, because we didn't take Nicks! (Not rocket science)...

If the Chiefs REALLY take Monroe...he was obviously the BPA (by far) in the eyes of Pioli.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:46 AM
Meh.

That could be true...probably is true. He went late in the 5th round...Dane is acting like he would have been our savior. That's just stupid...Will Franklin is not dictating who we take at #3...that's just fucking crazy talk.

But I'll give it to you...that Nicks cat sure seems like a quality LG!

Savior?

Savior?

I said that if Nicks would have been taken in 2008, the talk about Monroe would be non-existent.

And it would change the entire outlook of the 2009 draft.

Dummy.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:47 AM
Look Dane wanted the Chiefs to draft Nicks and they didn't he's point out how he was right and they were wrong and the Chiefs would be better off if they had done what he wanted.

He's right about that.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:47 AM
Savior?

Savior?

I said that if Nicks would have been taken in 2008, the talk about Monroe would be non-existent.

And it would change the entire outlook of the 2009 draft.

Dummy.

what if we had taken Nicks...and then at River Falls someone drove by and shot him in the head?

I mean...that could have happened...we are playing the 'what if' game, right?

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:48 AM
I read that he started 13 games...


Go to NFL.com, Dummy.


and if the Chiefs had selected Nicks, who the fuck knows what would have happened...I know that we surely don't, because we didn't take Nicks! (Not rocket science)...

Are you joking? Are you really this fucking stupid?

If the Chiefs REALLY take Monroe...he was obviously the BPA (by far) in the eyes of Pioli.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Miles
04-14-2009, 01:48 AM
People got all excited about Franklin because of where he went to college...

Yep. After reading the comments after the draft I was really hopeful he would work out but it apparently just didn't happen. Seems like it has been a hell of a long time that one of the locals that got everyone worked up did equate to something.

Smed1065
04-14-2009, 01:50 AM
After this can we please not draft spread WR's anymore.

OK spread means no PLAYERS. I SAID SO and I live in MOMS home.

NFL SCOUTS SUCK, THEY MAKE 20 TIMES I DO FOR NOTTA!


THEY ARE WRONG!

JUST ASK ME. I AM PAID FOR THIS SHIT!

I AM CP KNOW IT ALL, JUST ASK ME IN MY MOMS BASEMENT!

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:51 AM
Yep. After reading the comments after the draft I was really hopeful he would work out but it apparently just didn't happen. Seems like it has been a hell of a long time that one of the locals that got everyone worked up did pan out.

I will pretty much guarantee if Missouri or Kansas ever gets a really really well thought of player some people will want the Charles Rogers scenario. Where the Lions purposely took the hometown guy instead of the better prospect.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:52 AM
Is Smed, retarded, high, drunk, or all of the above?

I literally can not stand that guy he posts like he's mentally challenged.

Miles
04-14-2009, 01:53 AM
After this can we please not draft spread WR's anymore.

Frankin wasn't exactly a badass in the spread.

Smed1065
04-14-2009, 01:54 AM
Go to NFL.com, Dummy.




Are you joking? Are you really this fucking stupid?



ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Wow you know all!

YOU WORK ON THE NFL?

No but you respond like you could. LOL

Loser, so you make 1 million a year but suck at reality.........

And am better than all of us?

Dick

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:55 AM
I will pretty much guarantee if Missouri or Kansas ever gets a really really well thought of player some people will want the Charles Rogers scenario. Where the Lions purposely took the hometown guy instead of the better prospect.

You could have thought of a better example than Rogers...he was a top 10 pick on everyone's board.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:56 AM
Is Smed, retarded, high, drunk, or all of the above?

I literally can not stand that guy he posts like he's mentally challenged.

Man I don't know, but I am about to hop onto your side of this argument because I definitely don't want to be on his.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 01:56 AM
Is Smed, retarded, high, drunk, or all of the above?

I literally can not stand that guy he posts like he's mentally challenged.

Smed, in his CIA badassness, just figured out that I'm DCS and he's "going to get me banned"!
ROFL

SMED'S ON THE CASE, MOTHERFUCKERS; LOOK OUT! ROFL

Hootie
04-14-2009, 01:57 AM
even smed can pick out dup homos? I'm slightly impressed.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 01:57 AM
You could have thought of a better example than Rogers...he was a top 10 pick on everyone's board.

That's what I mean though, yes top 10 prospect but he wasn't as good of one as Andre Johnson, so they took the hometown kid.

I mean a guy who could realistically be in the talk of your pick and you'd be satisfied with the hometown guy because he is that.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 01:58 AM
Wow you know all!

YOU WORK ON THE NFL?

No but you respond like you could. LOL

Loser, so you make 1 million a year but suck at reality.........

And am better than all of us?

Dick

You're a sad, little man.

Miles
04-14-2009, 01:59 AM
I will pretty much guarantee if Missouri or Kansas ever gets a really really well thought of player some people will want the Charles Rogers scenario. Where the Lions purposely took the hometown guy instead of the better prospect.

Fortunately I don't think such a scenario will happen under the current management.

Rodgers was one badass WR prospect that I assume had some issues before the draft that I don't remember because I didn't follow the draft info quite as much at the time. Though at the time I recall him being hyped as the top WR over AJ.

ChiefsCountry
04-14-2009, 01:59 AM
That's what I mean though, yes top 10 prospect but he wasn't as good of one as Andre Johnson, so they took the hometown kid.

I mean a guy who could realistically be in the talk of your pick and you'd be satisfied with the hometown guy because he is that.

Wait till next year - we have a Oklahoma and Iowa player projected to go high.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 01:59 AM
even smed can pick out dup homos? I'm slightly impressed.

For someone who enjoys acting like a cut-rate Steve-O, I'm not surprised!

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:00 AM
Fortunately I don't think such a scenario will happen under the current management.

Rodgers was one badass WR prospect that I assume had some issues before the draft that I don't remember because I didn't follow the draft info quite as much at the time. Though at the time I recall him being hyped as the top WR over AJ.

He was well thought of and was a top 10 prospect in his own right, but anyone with any sort of logic and reasoning should know the 230lb guy with the 4.3 is the better prospect.

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:00 AM
For someone who enjoys acting like a cut-rate Steve-O, I'm not surprised!

:LOL:

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:01 AM
For someone who enjoys acting like a cut-rate Steve-O, I'm not surprised!

Hey, don't knock Steve.

At least he gets paid when he staples his sack to his leg and pisses on his roommates.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:01 AM
Wait till next year - we have a Oklahoma and Iowa player projected to go high.

Iowa players freak me out especially when they're suppose to be good...it probably doesn't help that the few 5 star recruits they signed all ended up sucking too.

Weird program.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:02 AM
Iowa players freak me out especially when they're suppose to be good...it probably doesn't help that the few 5 star recruits they signed all ended up sucking too.

Weird program.

Gotta love their coach!

Gotta!!!???!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:02 AM
You're a sad, little man.

"Typing with pencil up his nose despite his custom-fitted drool catcher, SMED soon learned that his poor grasp of the English Language was not a great springboard with which to jump in to the murky depths of Chiefs Planet".

:doh!:

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:03 AM
Gotta love their coach!

Gotta!!!???!!!

Which Iowa players panned out.......Bob Sanders did but he wasn't really well regarded coming out..

Gallery is a bust, I haven't seen Greenway enough to comment and I don't even know if Abdul Hodge is still in the league.

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:04 AM
He was well thought of and was a top 10 prospect in his own right, but anyone with any sort of logic and reasoning should know the 230lb guy with the 4.3 is the better prospect.

Interesting. I didn't realize AJ had the better measurables back then. Houston is the secondary team I follow so I was happy they ended up with the actual badass of the two.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:05 AM
:doh!:

Smed's currently using the "Go Fuck Yourself!: Little Einstein Edition".

And he's still confused.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:05 AM
Johnson was bigger and faster in workouts, his only knock was he dropped balls because he had eye issues which he had surgery to fix.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:07 AM
Johnson was bigger and faster in workouts, his only knock was he dropped balls because he had eye issues which he had surgery to fix.

Maybe that would cure Bowe's "dropsies".

Either that or a swift kick in the nuts after dropping an easily catchable pass.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:08 AM
Smed's currently using the "Go Fuck Yourself!: Little Einstein Edition".

And he's still confused.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL WINNER!

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:09 AM
Maybe that would cure Bowe's "dropsies".

Either that or a swift kick in the nuts after dropping an easily catchable pass.

I think Bowe had that surgery already....

I remember before Johnson had it he experimented with a visor on his helmet that was a prescription for his eyes, it didn't work very well.

ChiefsCountry
04-14-2009, 02:11 AM
Ironically about the Houston's pick of Andre Johnson was they wanted Roy Williams really bad but he didnt declare.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:11 AM
I think Bowe had that surgery already....

I remember before Johnson had it he experimented with a visor on his helmet that was a prescription for his eyes, it didn't work very well.

Oh.

Then he needs to start practicing every day with the Jugs machine.

I have a feeling that Haley will be busting his balls.

We'll see what he's made of in 2009.

Hopefully, it's not labia.

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:13 AM
I think Bowe had that surgery already....

I remember before Johnson had it he experimented with a visor on his helmet that was a prescription for his eyes, it didn't work very well.

Yeah he had Lasik back when he was at LSU prior to his last season there. Seemed like it somewhat helped but he was still dropping similar passes even after.

Mecca
04-14-2009, 02:13 AM
Ironically about the Houston's pick of Andre Johnson was they wanted Roy Williams really bad but he didnt declare.

The Texans fans that I've known all have huge hardons for Longhorns players, probably being from Texas and all.

They all wanted DJ, Young, you name it.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:14 AM
I think Bowe had that surgery already....

I remember before Johnson had it he experimented with a visor on his helmet that was a prescription for his eyes, it didn't work very well.

Prior to Haley and watching some 2008 games post-season, I was ready to give up on Bowe.

You're just going to have to trust me when I tell you that he is graduate #2 from the Haley School of Greatness Through Constant Strife And Never Settling.

It's gonna' work out with Dewayne.

ChiefsCountry
04-14-2009, 02:14 AM
Oh.

Then he needs to start practicing every day with the Jugs machine.

I have a feeling that Haley will be busting his balls.

We'll see what he's made of in 2009.

Hopefully, it's not labia.

I think its just being a WR. Those guys make it look so damn easy alot of the times but catching a football when somebody is about to unload on your ass isn't easy at all. Hell catching a football isnt a easy thing either when it comes right down to it.

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:16 AM
The Texans fans that I've known all have huge hardons for Longhorns players, probably being from Texas and all.

They all wanted DJ, Young, you name it.

DJ didn't get much talk from what I am aware of, but Young for sure. Lots of bitching occurred in Houston when they drafted Mario over Vince and Bush.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:19 AM
I think its just being a WR. Those guys make it look so damn easy alot of the times but catching a football when somebody is about to unload on your ass isn't easy at all. Hell catching a football isnt a easy thing either when it comes right down to it.

I remember Grigsby talking about catching "rockets" from Croyle in Hard Knocks.

Rockets? From Croyle? Romo has thrown a pretty wicked fast ball at times, I wonder what it's like to catch that?

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:22 AM
I remember Grigsby talking about catching "rockets" from Croyle in Hard Knocks.

Rockets? From Croyle? Romo has thrown a pretty wicked fast ball at times, I wonder what it's like to catch that?

Arm strength is one of the few things Croyle had/has going for him.

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:26 AM
Arm strength is one of the few things Croyle had/has going for him.

And a wife with fake tits but jacked up teeth.

Yep, he's a fan favorite.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:27 AM
Arm strength is one of the few things Croyle had/has going for him.

I'd love to put Stafford's long-ball arm and Cassels height on Mark Sanchez.

That's just "get the hell out of the way; we win".

Miles
04-14-2009, 02:30 AM
And a wife with fake tits but jacked up teeth.

Yep, he's a fan favorite.

But he was a second round pick and promising QB!

I would have liked for him to have been something but unfortunately my memories of him in college consisted of him being on his back from the LSU pass rush.

MMXcalibur
04-14-2009, 06:15 AM
He's no Samie Parker!

Braincase
04-14-2009, 07:31 AM
My guess is that there's a combination of issues with the front office, OTA attendance, and the possibility of his previously mentioned learning disability catching up with him. If Chan has been asked to add complexity to the offense, it'll start with the offensive line (no real lack if intellect there), then QB, then RB's, and then receivers. Bowe is probably not being pressed to do a cameo appearance on "The Big Bang Theory", and Chan might have his hands full just working with Bowe. Throwing Franklin in the mix might be more than he's prepared to take on. Who is the #1 receiver coming out of Stanford, Northwestern or the Ivy League?

Pitt Gorilla
04-14-2009, 07:47 AM
I will pretty much guarantee if Missouri or Kansas ever gets a really really well thought of player some people will want the Charles Rogers scenario. Where the Lions purposely took the hometown guy instead of the better prospect.I love Maclin, but the Chiefs shouldn't take him at three. Hood in the second (if we acquired a pick) would be fine. Coffman in the third or Moore in the fourth would be great as well. Wolfort as a FA kicker would be outstanding.

Priest31kc
04-14-2009, 09:35 AM
I love Maclin, but the Chiefs shouldn't take him at three. Hood in the second (if we acquired a pick) would be fine. Coffman in the third or Moore in the fourth would be great as well. Wolfort as a FA kicker would be outstanding.

Moore wont last until the 4th no way, and I bet Coffman gets taken in the 2nd round. Ziggy could be a 1st or a 2nd.

gblowfish
04-14-2009, 09:42 AM
I've heard Ziggy Hood in the first round to Indianapolis. Maclin in first round to Oakland, William Moore as a high to mid second rounder. Coffman low second to high third rounder.

CoMoChief
04-14-2009, 09:44 AM
I've heard Ziggy Hood in the first round to Indianapolis. Maclin in first round to Oakland, William Moore as a high to mid second rounder. Coffman low second to high third rounder.

I wouldnt mind picking up Coffman in the 3rd rd, especially if we let Tony G go.

Chief Faithful
04-14-2009, 11:21 AM
Any bets on when Devard Darling hits the road?

I'll bet its not soon enough.

Chief Faithful
04-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Uh, I'm pretty sure he is playing Guard. Still, this team would of been a lot less awful if Adrian Jones wasn't playing RG.

Amen! Adrian Jones was the single worst decision Herm made in 2008. He made everyone around him worse.

Pitt Gorilla
04-14-2009, 11:35 AM
damn, I guess he sucks worse than we all thought? Or they just cut him because he is Missouri scum? the latter makes more sense :)Yeah, apparently he didn't rape or vehicularly injure enough people for the KU/Chiefs fans.

crazycoffey
04-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Really, cockface?

Do you think that the idea of Monroe at #3 would even be an option if the Chiefs had taken Nicks?

I doubt we take Monroe at #3 anyway, FWIW....

crazycoffey
04-14-2009, 11:40 AM
I love Maclin, but the Chiefs shouldn't take him at three. Hood in the second (if we acquired a pick) would be fine. Coffman in the third or Moore in the fourth would be great as well. Wolfort as a FA kicker would be outstanding.


I think we should take Maclin over Crabtree, but I agree - with liking him but not sure we should take #3 either. Coffman easily could go third, Not blocking in college hurts his status.

Pitt Gorilla
04-14-2009, 11:42 AM
I think we should take Maclin over Crabtree, but I agree - with liking him but not sure we should take #3 either. Coffman easily could go third, Not blocking in college hurts his status.Coffman was actually a very solid blocker.

crazycoffey
04-14-2009, 11:55 AM
Coffman was actually a very solid blocker.


was he ever asked to play on the line like a pro-offense TE and block a LB? Or did he crash down on a LB/safety from a standing position in the spread. Don't get me wrong, I really like him, he's highly underrated, but the talk from some of the talking heads that actually has merit, is that he wasn't asked to block from the stance on the line.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-14-2009, 01:58 PM
I don't think her teeth are jacked up...

http://sportscracklepop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/kelli_croyle3.jpg

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:01 PM
I don't think her teeth are jacked up...



You're right. My bad.

Those are the whitest teeth I've ever come across.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-14-2009, 02:10 PM
You're right. My bad.

Those are the whitest teeth I've ever come across.

Oi! :doh!:

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-14-2009, 02:13 PM
I can think of something to whiten them with.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 02:18 PM
I can think of something to whiten them with.
ever jerk off in a white sink before?

DaneMcCloud
04-14-2009, 02:19 PM
ever jerk off in a white sink before?

Hamas is right.

You are damaged.

Hootie
04-14-2009, 02:20 PM
How many times can I break 'till I shatter?

Tiger's Fan
04-14-2009, 02:51 PM
I wanted Carl Nicks coming out of NE last year, and if that ****ing moron Herm would have taken him, and some other OL besides in the last rounds, he'd still have a job. (thank god that didn't happen) As far as Bowe is concerned, he DID NOT have a sophmore slump, and was very productive, considering the jr high QBs he had throwing to him. Yeah, he had some drops. Some are on him, but watch the tape and see how many absolutely horrible passes he was able to catch. Theres no doubt he's a legit #1. I think having an accurate QB this season will help show that.

Frazod
04-14-2009, 03:07 PM
Hamas is right.

You are damaged.

LMAO