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Brock
04-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Download the "The Wire" bible. Early conceptual drafts of what, who, where, and when. Fun reading by David Simon.
http://leethomson.myzen.co.uk/The_Wire/The_Wire_-_Bible.pdf
Baby Lee
04-18-2009, 12:21 PM
fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap guh!!!
Buzzsaw
04-18-2009, 12:27 PM
Incredible find. Thanks!
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 12:43 PM
Sweet as.
Thanks.
keg in kc
04-18-2009, 12:45 PM
That's really cool. Never had a chance to look through a show bible before.
And Herc isn't a steroid addict.
Aaron Barksdale...
This stuff is great.
Brock
04-18-2009, 01:03 PM
And Herc isn't a steroid addict.
David Simon says he is. So he is.
Stringy Bell
That was great, thanks.
Rep
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 01:21 PM
"Stringy" Bell = a legit laugh-out-loud.
Could you imagine???
Aaron Barksdale: "Stringy, I need you to take care of Omar."
Stringy Bell: "You got it Aaron."
Aaron Barksdale: "Thats why you my man Stringy."
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 01:26 PM
Could you imagine???
Aaron Barksdale: "Stringy, I need you to take care of Omar."
Stringy Bell: "You got it Aaron."
Aaron Barksdale: "Thats why you my man Stringy."
D'Angelo: "Where's Wallace, Stringy? Where the fuck is Wallace?"
I wonder why they changed all those names?
I bet they started shooting and it just sounded weird.
McArdle, Stringy, Aaron.
Mcnaulty, Stringer, and Avon all sound more badass.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 01:30 PM
I thought it was really interesting that the city initially wasn't going to be named. The show Bible is all like "This city has such and such architecture" that totally describes Baltimore, but not once in the show Bible did it say that Baltimore was the setting.
I agree, but they had to name it somewhere, and I bet a fake city name would have lessened the show.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 01:32 PM
I agree, but they had to name it somewhere, and I bet a fake city name would have lessened the show.
It definitely would have weakened it.
Did I mention I love this fucking show?
I bought the Complete Series some time in Dec/Jan and I just finished it earlier this month.
I bought it sight unseen, and it is my 2nd or 3rd favorite TV Show of all time.
I told my friend he had to watch it and he was so skeptical.
Hes now watched the first 5 episodes and is hooked. I'm making him watch every episode with me so I can watch it again. Its crazy how awesome the first season is especially after watching all the other seasons.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 01:56 PM
I watched the series for the first time last December in only six days. I was literally doing nothing but watching The Wire for 12 hours a day or so.
Brock
04-18-2009, 02:03 PM
The first 3 seasons were epic. The 4th season is just too depressing to revisit for me, and the 5th didn't really grab my attention all that much.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:04 PM
The first 3 seasons were epic. The 4th season is just too depressing to revisit for me, and the 5th didn't really grab my attention all that much.
You fail at TV watching.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:05 PM
I seriously have never heard a single cogent argument against The Wire being the best television show ever.
KcMizzou
04-18-2009, 02:14 PM
Did I mention I love this ****ing show?
I bought the Complete Series some time in Dec/Jan and I just finished it earlier this month.
I bought it sight unseen, and it is my 2nd or 3rd favorite TV Show of all time.
I told my friend he had to watch it and he was so skeptical.
Hes now watched the first 5 episodes and is hooked. I'm making him watch every episode with me so I can watch it again. Its crazy how awesome the first season is especially after watching all the other seasons.I've got a buddy who refuses to even check it out.
"I just don't care for cop shows."
:banghead:
His loss, I guess.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:15 PM
I've got a buddy who refuses to even check it out.
"I just don't care for cop shows."
:banghead:
His loss, I guess.
That the thing about the show -- its ten trillion steps beyond every other police procedural.
Baby Lee
04-18-2009, 02:19 PM
I seriously have never heard a single cogent argument against The Wire being the best television show ever.
I think Deadwood was better, and the first seasons of NYPD Blue and Homicide, but that's about it.
There were moments on Friends and Seinfeld that were more entertaining, but I can't say they were better, too much apple/orange dissimilarity.
I've only gotten to see the first two seasons of Hill Street Blues, but given the time frame it was made in, it's truly AMAZING how good it is.
The only other one that gives a similar level of satisfaction is ER, for it's groundbreaking early seasons, then it's mature, unprecedented ability to credibly show characters growing from neophytes to masters of their field over the years [think John Carter, then subsequently Archie Morris, and don't forget Neela].
But yeah, The Wire is up there.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:20 PM
And I still haven't.
Baby Lee
04-18-2009, 02:22 PM
And I still haven't.
You have, you just don't have the discernment to know it. ;)
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:23 PM
You have, you just don't have the discernment to know it. ;)
This is a bald-faced lie.
Baby Lee
04-18-2009, 02:27 PM
This is a bald-faced lie.
Grab your grubby 'The Wire' tube sock and go to town.
Look, you can search back in the archives and I've given some of the most empassioned and detailed hailings of the show anyone has, but credit where credit is due. Ferfuckssake, Homicide is basically, The Wire: The Prequel, written with as much passion by the same guy who crafted The Wire.
There's hardly a man on earth who David Simon takes a back seat to, but IMO David Milch is one such man [albeit by the slenderest of margins]. He dinged himself with John From Cincinnati, but Blue and Deadwood stand testiment to his abilities.
Keep it up and you're gonna call out the West Wing acolytes and then we're really gonna have a ruckus. FTR, I liked TWW a lot and watched it all the way through, but I never found it as transcendent as those who truly love it did, mainly because I'd seen Sports Night and could see the strings, which by the time he got around to Studio 60, there was more 'strings' on the screen than plot or character.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:41 PM
Grab your grubby 'The Wire' tube sock and go to town.
*Does so*
*comes back*
Look, you can search back in the archives and I've given some of the most empassioned and detailed hailings of the show anyone has, but credit where credit is due. Ferfuckssake, Homicide is basically, The Wire: The Prequel, written with as much passion by the same guy who crafted The Wire.
There's hardly a man on earth who David Simon takes a back seat to, but IMO David Milch is one such man [albeit by the slenderset of margins]. He dinged himself with John From Cincinnati, but Blue and Deadwood stand testiment to his abilities.
I don't get why Homicide being a prequel to The Wire (I agree that it basically is; The Corner even more so) would in any way diminish what The Wire achieved.
I think Deadwood is fucking great, but better than The Wire? I can't see how. No show besides The Wire is as relevant to the problems of America; no show packs the kind of documentary-like punch of stark realism that The Wire packs while offering such strong fictionalized/dramatic content to make the bleakness slightly palatable; no show offers such a thorough, sustained examination and argument about its topic as The Wire offers; plenty of shows have great, nuanced, sublimely human characters (in fact man shows have flat-out better characters) but no show has smart, realized characters in addition to the intellectual and artistic merits that The Wire achieves.
In many ways its unfair to compare The Wire to other TV shows; viewers have to approach it in such a different way than they do other television. Its a whole lot more like reading a novel than watching a TV drama.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Keep it up and you're gonna call out the West Wing acolytes and then we're really gonna have a ruckus. FTR, I liked TWW a lot and watched it all the way through, but I never found it as transcendent as those who truly love it did, mainly because I'd seen Sports Night and could see the strings, which by the time he got around to Studio 60, there was more 'strings' on the screen than plot or character.
Oh, I think that I get your perspective now. If a show is more about the intellectual or political argument -- the strings -- than its plot and characters (which The Wire is, overall), then its a weakness in that show for you.
To me, that's like knocking a Bertolt Brecht play for being written in the Epic Theater style. His plays were overtly political to the point where the politics trumps the characters (in a more severe way than The Wire does). That doesn't stop Brecht, for me, from being one of the absolute greats.
Baby Lee
04-18-2009, 02:50 PM
Oh, I think that I get your perspective now. If a show is more about the intellectual or political argument -- the strings -- than its plot and characters (which The Wire is, overall), then its a weakness in that show for you.
To me, that's like knocking a Bertolt Brecht play for being written in the Epic Theater style. His plays were overtly political to the point where the politics trumps the characters (in a more severe way than The Wire does). That doesn't stop Brecht, for me, from being one of the absolute greats.
No, the strings in Sorkin's work are his plot devices, the obscure name for something all the principle's know by reference and then get's revealed over the course of the episode, the same stock tempermental and personality squabbles he adpats to sports set, to the oval office, to the set of a 'comedy' show, the solipsizing over 'gems of our culture' etc. Oh, and let's not forget his increasingly strident exorcising of his own personal demons through plot and dialog.
For The Wire -vs- Deadwood, it's like saying whether a perfect filet mignon or a perfect creme brulee is the ultimate repast.
The Wire tied things together over the course of a season, and really rewarded a viewer for paying attention to all the little pieces, but it could slow down in spurts where either the gravity of the scene isn't yet revealed or it dwelled on one or more of the storylines that weren't as resonant with you.
OTOH, Deadwood had plot, scene, cinematography, shock value, and nearly Shakespearian scripting. I never spent a minute watching Deadwood other than bolt upright and engaged, a lofty standard The Wire fell 'just' short of.
I could be cynical of myself and muse that the situations of black folk didn't resonate as much as a bunch of old cowboys, but The Wire was, IMO it's most . . . what, slow? meandering? plodding? [relative terms all] when covering the Sobotka storyline, whereas I could eat up every minute Snoop or Omar were on screen.
The first 3 seasons were epic. The 4th season is just too depressing to revisit for me, and the 5th didn't really grab my attention all that much.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
My favorite Seasons in order - 4, 1, 5, 2, 3 (4 and 1 are basically a tie, as well as 5 and 2)
I could be cynical of myself and muse that the situations of black folk didn't resonate as much as a bunch of old cowboys, but The Wire was, IMO it's most . . . what, slow? meandering? plodding? [relative terms all] when covering the Sobotka storyline, whereas I could eat up every minute Snoop or Omar were on screen.
The Sobotka storyline was fucking epic. FUCKING EPIC.
Every season was great, and I really liked the Sobotka storyline. Sure it was slow at the beginning of the season, but tell me which season didn't start off slow?
The Sobotka storyline had all the same intellectual intricacies as the rest of the seasons, I think. I can't wait til I get to season two to watch that storyline again.
Reaper16
04-18-2009, 04:44 PM
Season 2 is so brilliant. The Sobotka family/docks environment initially hit me as, well, not-as-good as the Barksdale world. But I soon came to appreciate that world, especially after the season was over and I could piece it together into the larger project of The Wire. When I re-watched Season 2, I was losing my shit at how good it was.
Brock
04-19-2009, 07:55 AM
What the **** is wrong with you?
My favorite Seasons in order - 4, 1, 5, 2, 3 (4 and 1 are basically a tie, as well as 5 and 2)
I found season 4 so sad and depressing because of what happened to the boys. I just wanted to adopt them all and get them out of that hell they were living in. It's pretty unusual that a TV show can affect my mood, but that particular series of events sure did. My favorite season is actually the one on the docks.
Ultra Peanut
04-19-2009, 08:34 AM
I don't feel worthy of looking at it.
ZootedGranny
04-19-2009, 08:44 AM
I'm not sure how I'd rank the seasons, but the 4th was my favorite and the 2nd was my least favorite.
Ultra Peanut
04-19-2009, 08:55 AM
I watched the series for the first time last December in only six days. I was literally doing nothing but watching The Wire for 12 hours a day or so.That sounds like... heaven.
Reaper16
04-19-2009, 10:55 AM
I found season 4 so sad and depressing because of what happened to the boys. I just wanted to adopt them all and get them out of that hell they were living in. It's pretty unusual that a TV show can affect my mood, but that particular series of events sure did. My favorite season is actually the one on the docks.
That's why Season 4 is the best of the series. Everyone finds it utterly heartbreaking and depressing. Its so powerful.
Brock
04-19-2009, 11:05 AM
That's why Season 4 is the best of the series. Everyone finds it utterly heartbreaking and depressing. Its so powerful.
I understand that's the desired effect. I don't like the desired effect, that's why I haven't watched it again.
WilliamTheIrish
04-19-2009, 11:31 AM
I found season 4 so sad and depressing because of what happened to the boys. I just wanted to adopt them all and get them out of that hell they were living in. It's pretty unusual that a TV show can affect my mood, but that particular series of events sure did. My favorite season is actually the one on the docks.
I hear ya, Brock. I have found two or three shows in my ife that profoundly affected my mood in this manner: The Wire, some early episodes of St. Elsewhere and very early episodes of ER.
The last two I would not watch as I worked night shift and didn't want to be at work after seeing an episode with some dramatically depressing ending. I'd VHS record them and watch them in the AM when I got home.
This scene is awesome.
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More Awesome Season 1 Scenes
NSFW Language
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Scenes that make me sad. I'm putting spoiler tags on this because the names of the vids reveal stuff if you haven't seen all the seasons yet.
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Reaper16
04-19-2009, 10:43 PM
Don't watch any of those spoiler-tagged clips if you haven't seen the show. Don't watch a single damn one of them.
Don't watch any of those spoiler-tagged clips if you haven't seen the show. Don't watch a single damn one of them.
Good Idea
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ROFL
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Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 12:55 AM
Don't watch any of those spoiler-tagged clips if you haven't seen the show. Don't watch a single damn one of them.Just seeing the title of the first video made me tear up.
In looking back, I think Season 1 may be my favorite season. It's like picking your favorite child, though.
Miles
04-20-2009, 02:06 AM
Keep it up and you're gonna call out the West Wing acolytes and then we're really gonna have a ruckus. FTR, I liked TWW a lot and watched it all the way through, but I never found it as transcendent as those who truly love it did, mainly because I'd seen Sports Night and could see the strings, which by the time he got around to Studio 60, there was more 'strings' on the screen than plot or character.
I watched all of The West Wing last summer cold and had seen some of Spotsnight and all of Studio 60. While it was pretty damn good overall, it was also uneven and agree on the obvious "strings" aspect.
Miles
04-20-2009, 02:09 AM
I seriously have never heard a single cogent argument against The Wire being the best television show ever.
Deadwood, Rome and Twin Peaks are the only I would hold up there with The Wire with no real preference among them.
I think my two favorite TV scenes of all time are that scene where Dee explains chess and the scene in Deadwood when Dan fights Captain Turner.
Baby Lee
04-20-2009, 02:23 PM
I think my two favorite TV scenes of all time are that scene where Dee explains chess and the scene in Deadwood when Dan fights Captain Turner.
Bullock beating the fock out of Alma's father.
Cy beating Veronica Mars cross-eyed.
This is possibly the best picture on the internet.
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Ultra Peanut
04-25-2009, 11:21 AM
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irishjayhawk
04-25-2009, 11:24 AM
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Reaper16
04-25-2009, 11:26 AM
This is possibly the best picture on the internet.
http://www.duttyartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/clay.jpg
Yeah... that is immediately being used as my Facebook profile pic.
Yeah... that is immediately being used as my Facebook profile pic.
I was gonna make it my avatar, but I don't feel like resizing it.
beavis
04-25-2009, 01:15 PM
That's why Season 4 is the best of the series. Everyone finds it utterly heartbreaking and depressing. Its so powerful.
Yeah, it was, but I found it pissed me off more than compelled me. Those kids never stood a fucking chance. I found the docks storyline almost dry compared to the Barksdale side of things. Marlo is just a psychopath. I've just started season five, but right now, I'd rank my favorites in this order.
3, 1, 4, 2
Still, there is nothing better than a drinking scene with McNaulty and Bunk.
Reaper16
04-25-2009, 01:23 PM
Yeah, it was, but I found it pissed me off more than compelled me. Those kids never stood a fucking chance.
And its even worse in real inner-city life.
What The Wire does is present an incredibly accurate depiction of the American city, but its fictional elements work to "lighten up" the subject matter just a tiny bit so that the show is somewhat palatable to watch. Season 4 & 5 are the bleakest & hardest to handle, though. I think that's why the may be the best.
Yeah, it was, but I found it pissed me off more than compelled me. Those kids never stood a ****ing chance. I found the docks storyline almost dry compared to the Barksdale side of things. Marlo is just a psychopath. I've just started season five, but right now, I'd rank my favorites in this order.
3, 1, 4, 2
Still, there is nothing better than a drinking scene with McNaulty and Bunk.
Theres one in like every episode.
beavis
04-26-2009, 11:20 PM
And its even worse in real inner-city life.
What The Wire does is present an incredibly accurate depiction of the American city, but its fictional elements work to "lighten up" the subject matter just a tiny bit so that the show is somewhat palatable to watch. Season 4 & 5 are the bleakest & hardest to handle, though. I think that's why the may be the best.
I've wondered that while watching this series - if they had actually tamed a lot of it down. There is obviously some dramatic flare thrown in... Omar is almost the equivalent of a ghetto Batman.
beavis
04-26-2009, 11:21 PM
Theres one in like every episode.
Except in Season 4 when Jimmy stopped drinking. He was almost non-existent that year, and it really pissed me off, as I think he's an epic character.
Reaper16
04-26-2009, 11:23 PM
I've wondered that while watching this series - if they had actually tamed a lot of it down. There is obviously some dramatic flare thrown in... Omar is almost the equivalent of a ghetto Batman.
That's a superb observation. You're right on the money, imo. Omar is, by far, the most unrealistic aspect of The Wire. He's also the most popular. He's a superhero. The audience loves his antics and can breath a sigh of relief when he's on the screen. I think Omar exists primarily for emotional release; a small but necessary respite from the crushing bleakness of the rest of the show.
beavis
05-06-2009, 04:36 PM
That's a superb observation. You're right on the money, imo. Omar is, by far, the most unrealistic aspect of The Wire. He's also the most popular. He's a superhero. The audience loves his antics and can breath a sigh of relief when he's on the screen. I think Omar exists primarily for emotional release; a small but necessary respite from the crushing bleakness of the rest of the show.
I felt like I got punched in the gut when they took him out. He is in my top 5 characters of all time.
"Packa Newpowt"
I felt like I got punched in the gut when they took him out. He is in my top 5 characters of all time.
"Packa Newpowt"
Soft Pack
KCUnited
05-07-2009, 06:37 AM
I felt like I got punched in the gut when they took him out. He is in my top 5 characters of all time.
"Packa Newpowt"
Foul-mouthed lil hopper and shit.
Baby Lee
05-07-2009, 06:51 AM
Foul-mouthed lil hopper and shit.
Who dat think he Omar?
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Who dat think he Omar?
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Huh...I never realized that was Kenard.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 09:23 AM
Just finished the entire series. Epic is one word that comes to mind.
I'm not sure how to rank them just yet because I'm having a hard time with season 5. It just doesn't seem to fit the rest. The rest were realistic while 5 felt over the top. Yet, many of the ideas behind 5 are powerful. I'm gonna have to think about it.
My gut says: 4 & 1 (tie), 3 & 5 (tie), 2. But let's not pretend that says much. There's almost no distance between any of them, really.
Also, UP, you are correct when describing 10-12 hour days of The Wire. It is heaven.
Just finished the entire series. Epic is one word that comes to mind.
I'm not sure how to rank them just yet because I'm having a hard time with season 5. It just doesn't seem to fit the rest. The rest were realistic while 5 felt over the top. Yet, many of the ideas behind 5 are powerful. I'm gonna have to think about it.
My gut says: 4 & 1 (tie), 3 & 5 (tie), 2. But let's not pretend that says much. There's almost no distance between any of them, really.
Also, UP, you are correct when describing 10-12 hour days of The Wire. It is heaven.
Awesome. Did you like season 2? I noticed its last on your list.
Rewatch and see if you like it better, thats the case with most people. I loved it the first time through.
I need to re-watch this show.
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 12:22 PM
I'm not sure how to rank them just yet because I'm having a hard time with season 5. It just doesn't seem to fit the rest. The rest were realistic while 5 felt over the top. Yet, many of the ideas behind 5 are powerful. I'm gonna have to think about it.
My gut says: 4 & 1 (tie), 3 & 5 (tie), 2. But let's not pretend that says much. There's almost no distance between any of them, really.
It is still literary fiction (in TV form), so Season 5's plot was working fine on an artistic level. I wouldn't say that the serial killer plot was any more unrealistic than the Hamsterdam plot or the entire Omar story arc.
Thig Lyfe
07-11-2009, 12:24 PM
I'm on disc 3 of season 4. Amazed how they're able to come up with fresh storylines without abandoning what made the show great in the first place. I'd like to see more McNulty, though.
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm on disc 3 of season 4. Amazed how they're able to come up with fresh storylines without abandoning what made the show great in the first place. I'd like to see more McNulty, though.
It ain't about what you like, holmes. Its about what serves the story.
Thig Lyfe
07-11-2009, 12:27 PM
Awesome. Did you like season 2? I noticed its last on your list.
Rewatch and see if you like it better, thats the case with most people. I loved it the first time through.
I need to re-watch this show.
I thought season 2 was friggin' great despite being way different than the other seasons. Focusing on Sobotka rather than Barksdale was risky but paid off. The season was essentially filler to lend some realism to the Barksdale timeline (they couldn't just turn around and get Avon out of prison the next season), I think, but it was amazing, well-crafted, meaningful filler.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 12:42 PM
Awesome. Did you like season 2? I noticed its last on your list.
Rewatch and see if you like it better, thats the case with most people. I loved it the first time through.
I need to re-watch this show.
Like I said, it's much like UP's simile: its like picking your favorite child.
It is still literary fiction (in TV form), so Season 5's plot was working fine on an artistic level. I wouldn't say that the serial killer plot was any more unrealistic than the Hamsterdam plot or the entire Omar story arc.
While I found the fake serial killer plot to be somewhat unrealistic, comparatively (I don't see a problem with legalization - in fact that is one of the aspects that made Season 3 rank higher than 2. I loved the thought behind that decision. It made sense. As for Omar, I'm not sure what's unbelievable about his story arc.), it was more that the season seemed contrived. It was paced faster and written almost truncated. They knew they were ending and it's like they decided to race towards it. I LOVE the ideas behind all the arcs in the season, but they felt rushed and almost betrayed because of it. For example, while I understood Gus' plight with Templeton, it seemed emotionally unattatched. I mean I wanted Gus to win but the loss (the girl reporter) I felt was unemotional and a "who gives a shit" moment. I hated the managers of the paper - like you were supposed to - but I felt like they had a side of the story that wasn't completely told.
I'm half-tempted to rank them like so: 4 & 1, 3, 2, 5. But I don't think I can because there's much of 5 to like. And 2 seems like the black sheep in that many of it's storylines don't continue. Sure, the Greek comes back and has a job in the later seasons but aside from that, it didn't offer the overlapping storylines that made most of the seasons great.
Like I said though, it's a tough choice regardless because each has their own merits. I loved the dock setting, for example.
I have a tough time ranking the top 2, but I think I go
4, 1, 2, 5, 3
D'Angelo: "Where's Wallace, Stringy? Where the **** is Wallace?"
ROFL
Ultra Peanut
07-11-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm half-tempted to rank them like so: 4 & 1, 3, 2, 5. But I don't think I can because there's much of 5 to like. And 2 seems like the black sheep in that many of it's storylines don't continue. Sure, the Greek comes back and has a job in the later seasons but aside from that, it didn't offer the overlapping storylines that made most of the seasons great.
Like I said though, it's a tough choice regardless because each has their own merits. I loved the dock setting, for example.I find such exercises unnecessarily difficult and ultimately pointless.
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Reaper16
07-11-2009, 01:01 PM
Like I said, it's much like UP's simile: its like picking your favorite child.
While I found the fake serial killer plot to be somewhat unrealistic, comparatively (I don't see a problem with legalization - in fact that is one of the aspects that made Season 3 rank higher than 2. I loved the thought behind that decision. It made sense. As for Omar, I'm not sure what's unbelievable about his story arc.), it was more that the season seemed contrived. It was paced faster and written almost truncated. They knew they were ending and it's like they decided to race towards it. I LOVE the ideas behind all the arcs in the season, but they felt rushed and almost betrayed because of it. For example, while I understood Gus' plight with Templeton, it seemed emotionally unattatched. I mean I wanted Gus to win but the loss (the girl reporter) I felt was unemotional and a "who gives a shit" moment. I hated the managers of the paper - like you were supposed to - but I felt like they had a side of the story that wasn't completely told.
I'm half-tempted to rank them like so: 4 & 1, 3, 2, 5. But I don't think I can because there's much of 5 to like. And 2 seems like the black sheep in that many of it's storylines don't continue. Sure, the Greek comes back and has a job in the later seasons but aside from that, it didn't offer the overlapping storylines that made most of the seasons great.
Like I said though, it's a tough choice regardless because each has their own merits. I loved the dock setting, for example.
1.) It would be very difficult to set up a Hamsterdam area for a number of weeks and not have anyone catch on, in "real life" that is. Just about as hard as it would be to fake some murders. As for Omar... stick up men don't do the superhuman shit that he does, nor do they live for nearly as long as Omar did. Not the ones that target the wolves at night like Omar did, anyway.
2.) Odd that you say the media plot of season 5 was emotionally unattached, as it was the most personal of plots for David Simon. I understand the criticism that the editors were not portrayed as fully as other characters, but they aren't the first ones. Characters like Andy Krawchek or Commish Valcheck are similarly one-note. It doesn't serve the story to reveal more about them, and I would argue that we don't need to know. We can easily extrapolate what the motivations of the editors might be; what "their side" would be.
3.) It didn't serve the story to continue following the dock workers. Nothing changed about their situation. All the necessary follow-up was found in the season 5 cameos: Nick Sobatka complaining about the same ol, same ol with riverfront development & about the robots taking away even more jobs, and also Johnny Fifty's cameo as one of the homeless under the bridge that McNulty saw. Having Vondas and The Greek pop up a few times was conducive to the story because they were the connect. But it would have done nothing to further the messages of the show to continue following the dock workers just to follow them. Simon & Burns said what they wanted to say.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 01:05 PM
I have a tough time ranking the top 2, but I think I go
4, 1, 2, 5, 3
Why no love for 3?
I find such exercises unnecessarily difficult and ultimately pointless.
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Yep.
By the way, I gotta say one of the most fascinating character rises for me was Bodie. Hated his guts first season because of what he did. But then I was really sad to see him go.
I still think Wallace may have been the death that most got to me.
BODIE IS THE SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT
KCUnited
07-11-2009, 01:09 PM
Its not my favorite, but I'm partial to season 2 as my girlfriend works in transportation and deals in ocean containers on dailey basis. It was an excellent insight into the unions as well.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 01:11 PM
1.) It would be very difficult to set up a Hamsterdam area for a number of weeks and not have anyone catch on, in "real life" that is. Just about as hard as it would be to fake some murders. As for Omar... stick up men don't do the superhuman shit that he does, nor do they live for nearly as long as Omar did. Not the ones that target the wolves at night like Omar did, anyway.
Okay, I'll grant you that aspect of it being unrealistic.
FYI, the 4 story jump was actually 2 stories less than the event it was based on. True event, btw.
2.) Odd that you say the media plot of season 5 was emotionally unattached, as it was the most personal of plots for David Simon. I understand the criticism that the editors were not portrayed as fully as other characters, but they aren't the first ones. Characters like Andy Krawchek or Commish Valcheck are similarly one-note. It doesn't serve the story to reveal more about them, and I would argue that we don't need to know. We can easily extrapolate what the motivations of the editors might be; what "their side" would be.
Well, I don't think I'd compare with Valcheck. While he provided the catalyst for Season 2, he wasn't integral to it. The editors were in this season. I completely understand their side and the symbolism when they get their Pulitzer. I just felt the whole arc was underdeveloped. Bubble's Reporter was an awesome line but felt disconnected from the whole newspaper line. And that's a shame. I never really got Gus' real motivations for wanting him to go do this. Other than the obvious, that's what journalism is when compared with Scott.
3.) It didn't serve the story to continue following the dock workers. Nothing changed about their situation. All the necessary follow-up was found in the season 5 cameos: Nick Sobatka complaining about the same ol, same ol with riverfront development & about the robots taking away even more jobs, and also Johnny Fifty's cameo as one of the homeless under the bridge that McNulty saw. Having Vondas and The Greek pop up a few times was conducive to the story because they were the connect. But it would have done nothing to further the messages of the show to continue following the dock workers just to follow them. Simon & Burns said what they wanted to say.
Well, yes, but that's why I consider it to bee the black sheep when looking at the whole series. It's the only season that's virtually entirely self-contained. Granted, they all are to some extent, but it's the only one that really doesn't have much throughout the rest.
I loved Nick Sobatka's cameo. I also loved the Law and Order guy at the bar. Another small tidbit I liked (Can't remember what season it was in) was Rolles at the gay bar. And that's an example of something that didn't need more explanation. Something better left unsaid or unexpanded upon.
KCUnited
07-11-2009, 01:11 PM
Season 2 was also my favorite version of Way Down in the Hole.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 01:13 PM
Season 2 was also my favorite version of Way Down in the Hole.
If I had to rate those I'd go:
5, 3, 2, 4, 1
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 01:13 PM
City folk out there: read the metro/local section of your paper. It will depress the shit out of you how often the stories of The Wire repeat themselves in real life. I was reading a story yesterday about the ultra-miserable Kansas City school district. They have a new superintendent, hired with much fanfare, and this story was about his plans in place that will unify the curriculum and boost standardized test scores by six percent or more. I punched the paper away from me in disgust.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 01:14 PM
City folk out there: read the metro/local section of your paper. It will depress the shit out of you how often the stories of The Wire repeat themselves in real life. I was reading a story yesterday about the ultra-miserable Kansas City school district. They have a new superintendent, hired with much fanfare, and this story was about his plans in place that will unify the curriculum and boost standardized test scores by six percent or more. I punched the paper away from me in disgust.
Reminding me of another awesome tidbit: The Kansas City Star shout out. Of all the papers.....
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 01:23 PM
Well, I don't think I'd compare with Valcheck. While he provided the catalyst for Season 2, he wasn't integral to it. The editors were in this season. I completely understand their side and the symbolism when they get their Pulitzer. I just felt the whole arc was underdeveloped. Bubble's Reporter was an awesome line but felt disconnected from the whole newspaper line. And that's a shame. I never really got Gus' real motivations for wanting him to go do this. Other than the obvious, that's what journalism is when compared with Scott.
The season was bookended by two examples of quality journalism: the adversarial piece about the council president & the quid pro quo, and the narrative piece about Bubbles. There were plenty of good people in that newsroom that made good content despite the out-of-town ownership mucking things up. Those two stories didn't feel disconnected to me. Gus' motivation for wanting the Bubbles story was simply being a good editor and having a good idea of what would make a quality story.
I'm not sure what you are wanting to be further developed. You might just be sad that the show is over, heh.
Well, yes, but that's why I consider it to bee the black sheep when looking at the whole series. It's the only season that's virtually entirely self-contained. Granted, they all are to some extent, but it's the only one that really doesn't have much throughout the rest.
I loved Nick Sobatka's cameo. I also loved the Law and Order guy at the bar. Another small tidbit I liked (Can't remember what season it was in) was Rolles at the gay bar. And that's an example of something that didn't need more explanation. Something better left unsaid or unexpanded upon.Season 2 wasn't entirely self-contained. We didn't revisit the docks, yeah. But we didn't revisit the schools from season 4 outside of a cameo or two. I don't see the difference.
KCUnited
07-11-2009, 01:24 PM
Plus Nick Sabatka's girlfriend had them tittay's!!!
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Season 2 was also my favorite version of Way Down in the Hole.
Season 2 was the original version by Tom Waits.
If I had to rate those I'd go:
5, 3, 2, 4, 1
My order: 1, 4 (best title sequence footage, too. Chilling with the kids' voices), 2, 3, 5
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Reminding me of another awesome tidbit: The Kansas City Star shout out. Of all the papers.....
It was a shout-out to Star TV critic Aaron Barnhart, who was an early believer in the show.
Plus Nick Sabatka's girlfriend had them tittay's!!!
I forgot about that.
Thig Lyfe
07-11-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm watching episode 10 of season 4 right now, and holy shit if McNulty's younger son doesn't look exactly like Ricky Rubio.
Thig Lyfe
07-11-2009, 02:50 PM
Oh, fuck! What happens at the end of that episode is the most brutal shit I've ever seen on television.
Baby Lee
07-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Oh, fuck! What happens at the end of that episode is the most brutal shit I've ever seen on television.
Chris' beatdown of Bug's pops?
Did you ever see Cy Tolliver beat Veronica Mars cross-eyed and lumpy skulled on Deadwood?
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 03:58 PM
The season was bookended by two examples of quality journalism: the adversarial piece about the council president & the quid pro quo, and the narrative piece about Bubbles. There were plenty of good people in that newsroom that made good content despite the out-of-town ownership mucking things up. Those two stories didn't feel disconnected to me. Gus' motivation for wanting the Bubbles story was simply being a good editor and having a good idea of what would make a quality story.
I dunno, it just felt rushed and in need of a good 2-3 more episodes to really flesh it out.
I'm not sure what you are wanting to be further developed. You might just be sad that the show is over, heh.
Very true.
Season 2 wasn't entirely self-contained. We didn't revisit the docks, yeah. But we didn't revisit the schools from season 4 outside of a cameo or two. I don't see the difference.
No, I didn't mean to insinuate that it was entirely self-contained. I consider the fact that we had the 3-4 kids continue their story-line (along with a Neamon cameo) a big crossover. Plus, you still had the mayor as a big player.
Reaper16
07-11-2009, 04:12 PM
I dunno, it just felt rushed and in need of a good 2-3 more episodes to really flesh it out.
Very true.
No, I didn't mean to insinuate that it was entirely self-contained. I consider the fact that we had the 3-4 kids continue their story-line (along with a Neamon cameo) a big crossover. Plus, you still had the mayor as a big player.
Well, Namond and Randy were just one-episode cameos. They had reached end-points in terms of story-telling. What else could Simon & Burns say about them that serves the story? Michael & Dukie had their fates still very much up in arms, as they entered into Marlo's world.
irishjayhawk
07-11-2009, 04:18 PM
Well, Namond and Randy were just one-episode cameos. They had reached end-points in terms of story-telling. What else could Simon & Burns say about them that serves the story? Michael & Dukie had their fates still very much up in arms, as they entered into Marlo's world.
I think Randy could have had a much more fleshed out story. What that would be? I'm not entirely sure but it felt like I could have seen more of his transformation from the kid that knew he was going down for being a snitch to the guy who pushes people down stairs and storms out of an interview. I felt like Carver could have gone and visited him or tried, once again, to take him in. Who knows.
I just felt like 5 was paced differently than the rest. The rest were methodical builds whereas 5 just kinda I'm faking murders, it's going downhill really fast, he's forging articles bam done.
Don't get me wrong, it's not bad. I just thought there could have been more to it.
Reaper16
07-12-2009, 12:16 AM
I think Randy could have had a much more fleshed out story. What that would be? I'm not entirely sure but it felt like I could have seen more of his transformation from the kid that knew he was going down for being a snitch to the guy who pushes people down stairs and storms out of an interview. I felt like Carver could have gone and visited him or tried, once again, to take him in. Who knows.
I just felt like 5 was paced differently than the rest. The rest were methodical builds whereas 5 just kinda I'm faking murders, it's going downhill really fast, he's forging articles bam done.
Don't get me wrong, it's not bad. I just thought there could have been more to it.
There could have been more, I suppose. 5 was two episodes short after all. But I'm having a tough time thinking of things that would both fill that time and serve the story. Anything that I think of would just be unnecessary fan-service.
Ultra Peanut
07-12-2009, 05:36 AM
Randy went from sweet, promising kid with an honest-to-god shot at getting out to being an angry, hopeless lost cause. I don't really think they needed to wade much further into that.
Basileus777
07-12-2009, 01:25 PM
All of the seasons were great. In terms of how I enjoyed them, I'd rank them: 1, 2, 4, 3, 5. But if I ranked them on how "good" they were, I'd put season 4 at the top. Season 5 is easily the worst season though.
irishjayhawk
07-12-2009, 01:39 PM
Randy went from sweet, promising kid with an honest-to-god shot at getting out to being an angry, hopeless lost cause. I don't really think they needed to wade much further into that.
See, I wanted to see more of that transformation as Randy was one of the four I really cared about. They did more for Neamon than Randy which I thought was sad because Neamon was more of a Colvin story than a Neamon story.
Reaper16
07-12-2009, 01:51 PM
See, I wanted to see more of that transformation as Randy was one of the four I really cared about. They did more for Neamon than Randy which I thought was sad because Neamon was more of a Colvin story than a Neamon story.
That'd just be fan service, though. As soon as Randy walked into that group home, you knew what his fate would be. His season 5 cameo simply confirmed it. Showing the transformation wouldn't say anything that wasn't already said.
irishjayhawk
07-12-2009, 01:52 PM
That'd just be fan service, though. As soon as Randy walked into that group home, you knew what his fate would be. His season 5 cameo simply confirmed it. Showing the transformation wouldn't say anything that wasn't already said.
True, I guess.
:hmmm:
Reaper16
07-12-2009, 01:55 PM
True, I guess.
:hmmm:
I'm telling you, I can think of many scenes that I would have loved to see. But if I take a critical lens to those desires, I come up with nothing that wouldn't simply be extraneous.
Instead of wishing that there was more of The Wire, these days I just lament that there aren't more shows as good as The Wire.
Ultra Peanut
07-12-2009, 07:40 PM
I wanted Omar to raise Stringer from the dead and for those two to become lovers, but we get what we need, not what we want.
:(
Reaper16
07-16-2009, 09:51 PM
So... I'm reading David Simon & Ed Burns' book The Corner, and I stumbled upon a small passage that may give some insight as to why The Wire's theme song is "Way Down in the Hole." From pgs. 38-93:
...In Baltimore, anyone can sell anywhere, so long as there are fiends willing to pay. Now, a drug corner is all about product and name recognition.
"Got orange tops."
"Big Whites. Big white bags."
"Reds. Red tops. Reds make you sparkle. Red tops."
And, as always, "In the Hole."
Black Beauty, a dark-skinned tout know for her hard look, is busy touting today for that crew, which sells heroin under a brand name that has its origin in local geography. Perfectly isolated, the back alley that runs between Mount and Vincent on the south side of Fayette has long been known as the Hole. In service of that brand, Black Beauty walks a tight circle on Mount Street, barking in mindless repetition, like a mating bird left lonesome in the spring.
"In the Hole. In the Hole. In the Hole."
Even just reading this thread brings a smile to my face.
I've seen most of season 1 3 times through, just waiting for my roommate to finish the Finale of Season 1 so I can get to season 2 again. The rest of the series I've only seen once.
I cannot wait til he gets there. Season 2 is this shit.
Reaper16
09-17-2009, 01:03 PM
I was talking yesterday with my friend Stephen, who is the Midwest Region President of Sigma Tau Delta (the international honor society for students of English/Literature) and the two of us are going to organize and present a panel of scholarship on The Wire at next year's Sigma Tau Delta international convention.
I was talking yesterday with my friend Stephen, who is the Midwest Region President of Sigma Tau Delta (the international honor society for students of English/Literature) and the two of us are going to organize and present a panel of scholarship on The Wire at next year's Sigma Tau Delta international convention.
Are you going to focus on one theme of the Wire, or just the overall show itself?
Jenson71
09-17-2009, 01:27 PM
Cool. Do you have to be Sigma Tau Delta to submit a paper?
Reaper16
09-17-2009, 01:30 PM
Are you going to focus on one theme of the Wire, or just the overall show itself?
I doubt that the panel will be super-focused on one aspect of the show , though individual papers can certainly be. We just formed the idea yesterday, and neither of us have the papers that we plan to anchor the panel with written yet.
Cool. Do you have to be Sigma Tau Delta to submit a paper?
Yes. Depending on how many English classes you've taken you may meet your chapter's qualifications already. Someone on UNI's English faculty will be the chapter sponsor.
Jenson71
09-17-2009, 01:37 PM
I haven't taken any :(
Reaper16
12-19-2009, 09:32 PM
If you have a spare half-hour, read this new, long interview with David Simon that's all about The Wire: http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n12/htdocs/david-simon-280.php
$90 on Amazon.com today only.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
Damn, I wish I wasn't busy this weekend.
http://movingmountainsnyc.org/paintball2010.php
Damn, I wish I wasn't busy this weekend.
http://movingmountainsnyc.org/paintball2010.php
You mean you wish you weren't busy and had an extra $2500 to drop on meeting the cast of The Wire?
Silock
10-05-2010, 02:17 AM
So, I just finished this series. Great stuff.
I still am a bit confused as to what makes Season 4 the "best," though. I've heard that from several people. Maybe it just resonates with them more personally.
So, I just finished this series. Great stuff.
I still am a bit confused as to what makes Season 4 the "best," though. I've heard that from several people. Maybe it just resonates with them more personally.
Depends on who you ask.
Generally people will choose season 1 or 4.
4 was just amazing because you got to see where the whole street lifestyle begins, with kids. They have to live through shit and it explains why they are as hard as they are when they grow up.
That and the whole mayoral election.
Silock
10-05-2010, 05:02 AM
I guess. I really loved Season 3, though. It was probably my favorite. Season 5 was pretty cool to me, too.
I guess my order would be 3,5,4,1,2.
Bumping my favorite thread because tonight, I begin a rewatch.
YES!
KcMizzou
01-15-2011, 03:27 AM
Bumping my favorite thread because tonight, I begin a rewatch.
YES!Hey, Check out McNulty in that movie "Centurion"... It's not a huge part, but he's great in it. And it's a good movie...
Brock
01-16-2011, 10:45 AM
Might be a repost, but Simon's other Baltimore drug scene show was called "The Corner", based on a book he wrote. I recommend both.
blaise
03-10-2011, 09:16 AM
baltimoresun.com
More than 30, including 'Snoop' of 'Wire,' arrested in drug raids
Pre-dawn action by city, state, federal agencies targets heroin, marijuana operation
By Justin Fenton, The Baltimore Sun
7:13 AM EST, March 10, 2011
More than 30 people, including the actress known as "Snoop" from the Baltimore-based HBO series "The Wire," were arrested Thursday morning across the city and its surrounding counties in connection with a large-scale heroin and marijuana operation.
Raids were carried out in the pre-dawn hours by agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration, Baltimore police and a slew of other federal and state law enforcement agencies.
Felicia "Snoop" Pearson, known for her drug-assassin character on "The Wire," was taken into custody at a downtown apartment on a state warrant, officials said.
The actress has a troubled past, having been convicted at age 14 of second-degree murder. More recently, she refused to testify as a witness at a murder trial and was arrested at her then-Northeast Baltimore home.
The arrests are part of a five-month drug investigation, officials said.
Skyy God
04-13-2011, 10:00 AM
1) I'm just now getting around to watching this (finished Season 2). No hyperbole, it's on the short list for best show EVAH.
2) If you haven't read the 19th century novelization of the "F**k scene", I highly recommend it.
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/03/the-wire-as-19th-century-literature
blaise
04-13-2011, 10:17 AM
1) I'm just now getting around to watching this (finished Season 2). No hyperbole, it's on the short list for best show EVAH.
2) If you haven't ready the 19th century novelization of the "F**k scene", I highly recommend it.
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/03/the-wire-as-19th-century-literature
You'll be glad to know then that season 2 is usually seen as the weakest one.
Pants
04-13-2011, 10:20 AM
You'll be glad to know then that season 2 is usually seen as the weakest one.
I absolutely loved Season 2. People think it incredibly slow, but the story telling was out of this world. Just incredible.
blaise
04-13-2011, 10:24 AM
I absolutely loved Season 2. People think it incredibly slow, but the story telling was out of this world. Just incredible.
I like it, too. I just like the other season's better. But, yeah, I really like season 2 a lot. It's still great. I think I like 4 the best.
Season 2 was one of the best. I usually rank the seasons 4,1,2,3,5.
Pants
04-13-2011, 10:52 AM
Season 2 was one of the best. I usually rank the seasons 4,1,2,3,5.
I'd probably go 1,2,5,3,4.
4 depressed the hell out of me, IIRC.
KCUnited
04-13-2011, 10:55 AM
The tits in Season 2 were great, I still remember them.
Reaper16
04-13-2011, 01:46 PM
I'd probably go 1,2,5,3,4.
4 depressed the hell out of me, IIRC.
That's why its so good. Make a distinction between best and favorite, please. Cuz no way does Season 4 being effective at what it wants to do make it the least-good season of the show.
Pants
04-13-2011, 02:02 PM
That's why its so good. Make a distinction between best and favorite, please. Cuz no way does Season 4 being effective at what it wants to do make it the least-good season of the show.
Don't get your panties in a bunch, I think they did a better job of showing the strife of a local Union leader or the Union itself in Season 2 than anything else they tried to show in the series. I think Season 2 was effective at doing what it wanted to do.
Skyy God
06-02-2011, 03:33 PM
Stinger sighting (and it's on Netflix instant).
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keg in kc
06-02-2011, 04:28 PM
Luthor had a really good first season. I think I started a thread on it, but I get the impression I was the only person who watched it
Deberg_1990
06-02-2011, 05:59 PM
I really, want to check out The Wire sometime....come on Netflix!!!
Luthor had a really good first season. I think I started a thread on it, but I get the impression I was the only person who watched it
I saw the first 3 eps I think. Since its streaming now I'll watch the rest.
Skyy God
06-02-2011, 10:29 PM
I really, want to check out The Wire sometime....come on Netflix!!!
Not gonna happen, at least on instant. Queue it up, pansy. ;)
Gold box deal on Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BZ5AFU/ref=xs_gb_A1SBHD571XO5KN?pf_rd_p=441937901&pf_rd_s=right-1&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=05DV8G2HK4EKP6APFNM8
$72.49 for the complete series
Sure-Oz
08-24-2011, 10:12 PM
Ordered that, will take 1-3 weeks but $72 a steal compared to the 140 it normally is. Heard good things about this show but never seen it
Reaper16
08-25-2011, 09:02 AM
Ordered that, will take 1-3 weeks but $72 a steal compared to the 140 it normally is. Heard good things about this show but never seen it
This struck me as a humorous understatement. Like, "Michael Jordan? Yeah, some people told me he was a good basketball player."
Demonpenz
08-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Jesus? Yeah he was semi-influential
KcMizzou
08-25-2011, 10:00 PM
This struck me as a humorous understatement. Like, "Michael Jordan? Yeah, some people told me he was a good basketball player."I have a friend that watched the first couple of episodes and never watched another because he "doesn't like cop shows".
On the bright side, he's almost caught up on Breaking Bad in about a week and a half.
Thig Lyfe
08-26-2011, 12:04 AM
I have a friend that watched the first couple of episodes and never watched another because he "doesn't like cop shows".
Your friend is retarded.
Sure-Oz
08-26-2011, 12:32 AM
This struck me as a humorous understatement. Like, "Michael Jordan? Yeah, some people told me he was a good basketball player."
lol....im excited to watch the show and been waiting for a deal to come
Demonpenz
08-26-2011, 09:37 PM
the wire has to be the youngest show that I ever ever seen a KID shown murdered on screen. I can't remember a show off the top of my head that would have the balls to show a kid getting gunned down.
Reaper16
08-26-2011, 10:10 PM
the wire has to be the youngest show that I ever ever seen a KID shown murdered on screen. I can't remember a show off the top of my head that would have the balls to show a kid getting gunned down.
The Wire didn't even have the balls to show the act itself. We don't see Wallace get shot, we just see Poot and Bodie do the shooting with the camera facing them.
Dr. Gigglepants
09-30-2011, 07:59 PM
Watched the first season a little over 2 years ago, then got sidetracked a couple episodes into the 2nd season. I'm about 8 episodes into season 2 now. What a good show. Frank Sobatka is getting investigated for all the smuggling, I feel so bad for him, all the money he is making is going straight to the union employees, their families, or to pay off politicians for things that are good for the port. Going to be sad when he gets caught.
Brock
09-30-2011, 09:30 PM
Watched the first season a little over 2 years ago, then got sidetracked a couple episodes into the 2nd season. I'm about 8 episodes into season 2 now. What a good show. Frank Sobatka is getting investigated for all the smuggling, I feel so bad for him, all the money he is making is going straight to the union employees, their families, or to pay off politicians for things that are good for the port. Going to be sad when he gets caught.
The good news is, he doesn't get caught. The bad news is, I'm not going to tell you.
Dr. Gigglepants
09-30-2011, 09:36 PM
The good news is, he doesn't get caught. The bad news is, I'm not going to tell you.
Oh no, I had a feeling things might go bad with the greeks. I'm going to stay out of this thread for a while until I finish this season at least. What a damn good show.
Brock, that was fucking moronic.
Pants
09-30-2011, 09:38 PM
Watched the first season a little over 2 years ago, then got sidetracked a couple episodes into the 2nd season. I'm about 8 episodes into season 2 now. What a good show. Frank Sobatka is getting investigated for all the smuggling, I feel so bad for him, all the money he is making is going straight to the union employees, their families, or to pay off politicians for things that are good for the port. Going to be sad when he gets caught.
Yeah, Frank Sobatka's plight is what made Season 2 so good for me. The idea that someone so corrupt can actually be so good tickled my brain real good.
Brock
09-30-2011, 09:48 PM
Brock, that was fucking moronic.
WTF. I didn't say anything of significance.
WTF. I didn't say anything of significance.
Anyone with half a brain could figure out what you mean.
Brock
09-30-2011, 09:57 PM
Anyone with half a brain could figure out what you mean.
Okay. I apologize if I ruined anyone's enjoyment of Season 2 of The Wire.
Demonpenz
09-30-2011, 11:27 PM
The Wire didn't even have the balls to show the act itself. We don't see Wallace get shot, we just see Poot and Bodie do the shooting with the camera facing them.
I guess you are right, still a disturbing scene
KcMizzou
10-01-2011, 01:08 AM
Okay. I apologize if I ruined anyone's enjoyment of Season 2 of The Wire.You bastard!
Dr. Gigglepants
10-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Finished season 2. What an amazing show.
Favorite line from the season:
Prosecutor: "Mr. Little, how does a man rob drug dealers for eight or nine years and live to tell about it?
Omar: [slight pause, slight shrug] Day at a time, I s'pose.
Can't wait til Omar gets even with Stringer.
I just started watching this on HBO GO. It seems to be the only series that it can actually stream atm. But on the 4th episode, pretty good so far. A little slow at first but it's keeping me interested.
I just started watching this on HBO GO. It seems to be the only series that it can actually stream atm. But on the 4th episode, pretty good so far. A little slow at first but it's keeping me interested.
If you enjoy through episode 4, then you're going to like it. Episode 5 and 6 are when it really picks up.
KC_Connection
04-22-2012, 11:35 PM
Finished season 2. What an amazing show.
Favorite line from the season:
Prosecutor: "Mr. Little, how does a man rob drug dealers for eight or nine years and live to tell about it?
Omar: [slight pause, slight shrug] Day at a time, I s'pose.
Can't wait til Omar gets even with Stringer.
Season 2 might be my favorite season. Both for the Omar court episode and also the ending of the Sobotka story.
Okie_Apparition
04-22-2012, 11:52 PM
The adventures of the man's diamond ring in the last season
was it just a nice side story
Dr. Gigglepants
04-23-2012, 07:53 AM
Season 2 might be my favorite season. Both for the Omar court episode and also the ending of the Sobotka story.
Agree, but I haven't watched season 4 yet. Season 2 had so many great characters, Season 3 was a little slower, but it was great how it went back to revolving around the season 1 characters again.
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Baby Lee
01-18-2013, 08:48 PM
RIP Prop Joe
Pants
01-18-2013, 11:09 PM
RIP Prop Joe
:(
Simply Red
12-26-2014, 04:55 PM
I'm so late here - I realize it - I always heard about this show - today (NOW THAT I HAVE HBO) they're airing the whole beginning. I'm so pumped to FINALLY see this.
It's like a miniature New Jack City, only better.
I love the fact that the bad guy in Bully (the movie) is in it. Looks like he's pinched as of now though - The white kid.
Simply Red
12-26-2014, 04:56 PM
Also I can't find 'the wire' thread. :/
Skyy God
12-26-2014, 07:00 PM
Out in HD. F yeah.
lewdog
12-26-2014, 07:24 PM
I'm so late here - I realize it - I always heard about this show - today (NOW THAT I HAVE HBO) they're airing the whole beginning. I'm so pumped to FINALLY see this.
It's like a miniature New Jack City, only better.
I love the fact that the bad guy in Bully (the movie) is in it. Looks like he's pinched as of now though - The white kid.
I watched every episode on HBO GO. If it's still on there, you can watch the whole thing online or stream through your TV.
Simply Red
12-26-2014, 07:32 PM
I watched every episode on HBO GO. If it's still on there, you can watch the whole thing online or stream through your TV.
I may just buy the hard copies from Movie Stop - I think they're around $30 per season - maybe a little less - I'm not sure.
Buehler445
12-27-2014, 12:42 AM
I may just buy the hard copies from Movie Stop - I think they're around $30 per season - maybe a little less - I'm not sure.
HBO go is free with your HBO sub
lewdog
12-27-2014, 09:04 AM
I may just buy the hard copies from Movie Stop - I think they're around $30 per season - maybe a little less - I'm not sure.
HBO go is free with your HBO sub
Yea I'm not sure why you'd buy them when you have access to them for free? It's not a series I would watch more than once. Although I'm like that with just about everything.
ChiliConCarnage
12-27-2014, 11:29 AM
Out in HD. F yeah.
Yeah, I watched several episodes of S1 yesterday.
Buehler445
12-27-2014, 02:37 PM
Yea I'm not sure why you'd buy them when you have access to them for free? It's not a series I would watch more than once. Although I'm like that with just about everything.
Game of Thrones. I rewatch that every time there is a new season.
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 02:50 PM
Episode 2 is on - I'm doing another marathon - this is a great way to spend time coming off of a lame breakup.
I'm honestly ready to go back to work. ha ha ha.
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 02:51 PM
HBO go is free with your HBO sub
thanks - where?
ChiliConCarnage
12-27-2014, 03:00 PM
Yeah, I watched several episodes of S1 yesterday.
and a decent chunk of S2 today. Caught it right as Ziggy rips out the wang at the bar
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 03:01 PM
and a decent chunk of S2 today. Caught it right as Ziggy rips out the wang at the bar
same here - it has my total attention all day - well it and this CP place.
Wonder if they're rolling out Season 3 tomorrow? This is great entertainment for this non eventful weekend, I can't say that enought. LOL
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 03:03 PM
oh okay Method Man is entering now. huh?
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 03:04 PM
So far Season 1 was better (IMO) - but I don't want to get ahead of myself.
Buehler445
12-27-2014, 03:14 PM
thanks - where?
Go to hbogo.com.
You have to login to your cable provider and then it will remember it and you can get all their content online.
For instance, mine is a DISH account. So I go to hbogo.com, select DISH, use my DISH login, and then it's golden.
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 03:22 PM
Go to hbogo.com.
You have to login to your cable provider and then it will remember it and you can get all their content online.
For instance, mine is a DISH account. So I go to hbogo.com, select DISH, use my DISH login, and then it's golden.
thanks - will ck it out this week. I guess most of you others preferred season 1 to season 2? I have to think others would agree - if you all can even remember - it's been out so long now. HA!
ChiliConCarnage
12-27-2014, 03:25 PM
So far Season 1 was better (IMO) - but I don't want to get ahead of myself.
When I first watched I hated S2 but it comes around on you. It shifts away from the S1 Barksdale/Cop drama a bit but it does become interesting.
Simply Red
12-27-2014, 03:54 PM
When I first watched I hated S2 but it comes around on you. It shifts away from the S1 Barksdale/Cop drama a bit but it does become interesting.
I see.
I think for me it was this order of best to worst (keep in mind the worst season of this show is still better than almost every show ever).
1 = 4
2 = 3
5
That is, 1 and 4 are tied for 1st, 2 and 3 are tied for 3rd, and Season 5 is 5th.
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