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RustShack
04-23-2009, 02:32 PM
The Chiefs select Michael Crabtree, WR Texas Tech.

BigChiefFan
04-23-2009, 02:33 PM
No, thank you.

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2009, 02:34 PM
The Chiefs select Michael Crabtree, WR Texas Tech.

:Lin:

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2009, 02:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman%27s_knot

chiefs1111
04-23-2009, 02:36 PM
:banghead::banghead:

MoreLemonPledge
04-23-2009, 02:37 PM
It's as realistic as anything else right now.

Archie Bunker
04-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Wouldn't shock me at this point. The lack of playmakers on offense is startling.

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2009, 02:40 PM
It's as realistic as anything else right now.

No, it's not.

The played in the Spread, never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, isn't a good route runner, measured nearly 2" shorter than his listed height at A&M and hasn't been able to run a 40.

He's THE biggest question mark in the draft and RARELY does a WR make any impact his first year.

BigCatDaddy
04-23-2009, 02:40 PM
If not then who?

BigRock
04-23-2009, 02:42 PM
I'd take Crabtree over Curry or either of the OTs. I thought that before Gonzalez left. The anti-OT argument has been made repeatedly and, with Haley on his ass, I bet Crabtree would ultimately have a bigger impact than an 3-4 ILB.

But I actually liked the idea better before Gonzalez was traded. With Gonzalez, Bowe, and then Crabtree for Cassel to work with, the reaction to it would have been in the "look out for that offense" variety.

Now if we draft Crabtree, it's just going to look like they did it to replace Gonzalez.

MoreLemonPledge
04-23-2009, 02:43 PM
No, it's not.

The played in the Spread, never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, isn't a good route runner, measured nearly 2" shorter than his listed height at A&M and hasn't been able to run a 40.

He's THE biggest question mark in the draft and RARELY does a WR make any impact his first year.

Or a OLB that's only played 4-3 DE.

Or we can have a LB that's never played ILB in a 3-4.

Or a NT that's never actually played NT in a 3-4.

Or a QB that's only started 1 season and has never played in our scheme.

Or a lineman that will probably play RT...at pick 3.

There's question marks with any player. Crabtree is a consensus top 5 pick and is as realistic as any, especially considering our lack of playmakers.

talastan
04-23-2009, 02:44 PM
If not then who?

Maclin IMO. Has the speed to compliment Bowe and has sure hands in the spread. Also doubles in the ST dept.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2009, 02:44 PM
BALLS INTO VICE

BigChiefFan
04-23-2009, 02:45 PM
I hate to say this, but Crabtree seems like a flake to me. Ocho Cinco 2.0

El Jefe
04-23-2009, 02:47 PM
God Bless America, did you really have to start another thread when there is already like 10 of these threads.

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Or a OLB that's only played 4-3 DE.

Or we can have a LB that's never played ILB in a 3-4.

Or a NT that's never actually played NT in a 3-4.

Or a QB that's only started 1 season and has never played in our scheme.

Or a lineman that will probably play RT...at pick 3.

There's question marks with any player. Crabtree is a consensus top 5 pick and is as realistic as any, especially considering our lack of playmakers.

I'm sorry but you don't take a WR at #3 overall who's never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, played against horrible defenses, has an attitude and can't run a 40.

JFC.

RustShack
04-23-2009, 02:48 PM
I think its funny that the majority of the world, including the NFL Draft guru's think Crabtree is one of the best WR's to come out, but some people here don't like him because hes from the spread like most current WR's and because he has 40 time issues like Jerry Rice, Larry Fitz, Boldin, and Andre Johnson to name a few. It big question marks that fall are the picks who tend to be great.

RustShack
04-23-2009, 02:48 PM
God Bless America, did you really have to start another thread when there is already like 10 of these threads.

Half of them started by me... ROFL

Nixhex
04-23-2009, 02:48 PM
No, it's not.

The played in the Spread, never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, isn't a good route runner, measured nearly 2" shorter than his listed height at A&M and hasn't been able to run a 40.

He's THE biggest question mark in the draft and RARELY does a WR make any impact his first year.


Good points. These spread WR's rarely have a guy in their face. They get a free run off the line of scrimmage. It's really hard to judge how they'll be as an NFL WR. Crabtree may be the next Fitzgerald. He may be the next Calvin Johnson. It's hard to say.

Blick
04-23-2009, 02:49 PM
No, it's not.

The played in the Spread, never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, isn't a good route runner, measured nearly 2" shorter than his listed height at A&M and hasn't been able to run a 40.

He's THE biggest question mark in the draft and RARELY does a WR make any impact his first year.

If NFL scouts thought those things were a big deal, then Crabtree wouldn't be widely considered a top 10 prospect.

Molitoth
04-23-2009, 02:51 PM
:Lin: Michael Crabtree

El Jefe
04-23-2009, 02:52 PM
No, it's not.

The played in the Spread, never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, isn't a good route runner, measured nearly 2" shorter than his listed height at T-TECH and hasn't been able to run a 40.

He's THE biggest question mark in the draft and RARELY does a WR make any impact his first year.

FYP

MoreLemonPledge
04-23-2009, 02:52 PM
I'm sorry but you don't take a WR at #3 overall who's never lined up in a Pro-Style offense, played against horrible defenses, has an attitude and can't run a 40.

JFC.

But that doesn't refute my post.

There are question marks with every player. Every player will be asked to do something completely new from what they did in college.

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2009, 02:53 PM
If NFL scouts thought those things were a big deal, then Crabtree wouldn't be widely considered a top 10 prospect.

I've read just about everything out there and the only people that think he's a top ten guy are internet peeps.

I've yet to read that a legitimate scout actually thinks Crabtree is a top ten talent.

Molitoth
04-23-2009, 02:53 PM
Crabtree may be the next Fitzgerald. He may be the next Calvin Johnson.


Or the next over-rated bust. (which is most likely)

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2009, 02:53 PM
Or the next over-rated bust. (which is most likely)

This.

He's in no way, shape or form in the same category as those guys.

Not even close.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Thats funny because I did a mock with the Chiefs trading with Washington and we got pick #13. When I did the mock Crabtree actually fell all the way to 13, because Oakland took Maclin over Crabtree.

RustShack
04-23-2009, 02:56 PM
Thats funny because I did a mock with the Chiefs trading with Washington and we got pick #13. When I did the mock Crabtree actually fell all the way to 13, because Oakland took Maclin over Crabtree.

Because Al Davis is obsessed with speed? That has really been working out for the Raiders hasn't it?

KCrockaholic
04-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Because Al Davis is obsessed with speed? That has really been working out for the Raiders hasn't it?

And they will never learn their lesson.

txhawk
04-23-2009, 03:08 PM
Based on salary slotting Crabtree would then be the highest paid wide receiver in the league if we drafted him at #3.

Will not be drafted #3.

El Jefe
04-23-2009, 03:10 PM
This.

He's in no way, shape or form in the same category as those guys.

Not even close.

I don't know why people don't realize this. People Crabtree is not Calvin Johnson, or even in the same league.

chiefs1111
04-23-2009, 03:12 PM
Id rather have D.H.B than Crabtree

El Jefe
04-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Id rather have D.H.B than Crabtree

DHB is a burner that is for sure, I think im leaning towards your thoughts as well.

RustShack
04-23-2009, 03:29 PM
I don't know why people don't realize this. People Crabtree is not Calvin Johnson, or even in the same league.

No he is no Calvin Johnson, I think he compares best to Andre Johnson actually.

KCChiefsMan
04-23-2009, 03:40 PM
f*ck that, if we pick WR at #3, that means he's gonna be the highest paid WR in the NFL. Screw that

Micjones
04-23-2009, 03:41 PM
DHB is a burner that is for sure, I think im leaning towards your thoughts as well.

We'll have to make our way to 15-18 to make a run at him.

RustShack
04-23-2009, 03:44 PM
f*ck that, if we pick WR at #3, that means he's gonna be the highest paid WR in the NFL. Screw that

Thats about how its going to go no matter who we draft...

El Jefe
04-23-2009, 03:48 PM
We'll have to make our way to 15-18 to make a run at him.

Yea we would.