The Palm Pre by Sprint

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I broke down and got one of these just a few minutes ago. If anyone has one and has some tips, this is a good place and I'd really appreciate it. I really loved my Instinct, but everything pointed to this phone giving the iphone a run for the money.

Sprint GPS is a huge feature for my money, and the NFL programs available kick ass. This phone has an OS like nothing I've ever seen on a cell phone. It is just fucking ridiculous how easy it is. The screen is brilliant, and I love the pinch feature to zoom in and out ala the iphone.

There are some definite downsides to it. The keyboard is ridiculously small, and it should be horizontal rather than vertical. There aren't many apps to this point but the phone just released yesterday so I'm confident that will change. No video playback to this point, but it's coming from everything reported. It also has 8gb of memory built into it, but no expansion port for memory cards. That really sucks for people like me who use their phones like an Ipod.

Overall, I think it's smokin right out of the box and is only going to get better as we move forward. It's definitely the best phone on the market right now outside of the Iphone, and certainly Sprint's best option IMO. Anyone have one? Anyone gonna get one? What say ye?

[The Franchise]

How much did you pay for it?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

How much did you pay for it?

$299.99 with a $100 mail in rebate on an upgrade. I'll sell my Instinct for $150 on craigslist and it'll cost me $75 after tax. I pretty much did it because by all accounts it does everything the Instinct does and a whole shit ton more. You should definitely check it out. There's also a 30 day return deal on it, so if I hate it I can get all my money back.

[KCFalcon59]

Does it have WiFi?

[The Franchise]

$299.99 with a $100 mail in rebate on an upgrade. I'll sell my Instinct for $150 on craigslist and it'll cost me $75 after tax. I pretty much did it because by all accounts it does everything the Instinct does and a whole shit ton more. You should definitely check it out. There's also a 30 day return deal on it, so if I hate it I can get all my money back.

I'm not able to upgrade for that price right now and I currently have a Blackberry Curve for work. I'd have to check to make sure that it can sync up with Outlook at my job before I got one. I'll probably wait to see what happens with it.

[jiveturkey]

The wife and I have been with Verizon for 10 years and we're considering jumping to Sprint for this. Their plans are hard to beat right now too.

[irishjayhawk]

I'm curious to see how the Pre will stack up to the new iPhone model.

If I wasn't locked into T-mobile and could shop around, the Pre would be getting a look at by me.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Does it have WiFi?

Yes. And it's beautiful. With the card system in place, you can review documents, surf the internet, check the weather, and talk on the phone at the exact same time. I'm really just getting this thing charged up, and getting files transferred. I'll do a complete review on it, and it's functionability in the next few days. So far, it's absolutely beautiful.

[KevB]

I'd LOVE to get one, but I don't want to drop off my SERO plan (the old, grandfathered version --- $30 for 500 minutes and unlimited data). I'm using the original HTC Touch, which has been a pretty good phone for me after doing some tweaks.

One of the high points of the phone is multiple applications open at once and easy navigation between them. However, I wonder how that impacts battery life? I'd be interested to hear your experience with that once you have it up and running for a few days.

[irishjayhawk]

I'd LOVE to get one, but I don't want to drop off my SERO plan (the old, grandfathered version --- $30 for 500 minutes and unlimited data). I'm using the original HTC Touch, which has been a pretty good phone for me after doing some tweaks.

One of the high points of the phone is multiple applications open at once and easy navigation between them. However, I wonder how that impacts battery life? I'd be interested to hear your experience with that once you have it up and running for a few days.

Most of the reviews I read loved the fact that you could have more than one application running, but almost all of them added a caveat: you gotta watch your battery life.

That's the main reason Apple hasn't allowed it thus far.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I have The New York Times updated daily for free on this phone. Absolutely beautiful.

[The Bad Guy]

What pisses me off is I basically have the everything plan on my phone for 4 lines and I'm paying roughly 119.99 for everything.

Now, if I switch to the Pre, I have to switch to a different data plan, completely canceling this sweet offer I have.

I want the Pre but no way do I give up my unreal package.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

What pisses me off is I basically have the everything plan on my phone for 4 lines and I'm paying roughly 119.99 for everything.

Now, if I switch to the Pre, I have to switch to a different data plan, completely canceling this sweet offer I have.

I want the Pre but no way do I give up my unreal package.

I just did a double take to make sure they didn't back door me into a plan change. Luckily, (or unluckily depending on how you look at it) they didn't. I should quantify that it's $299.99 then $199.99 after I get my rebate. It looked kind of confusing when I reread it.

This phone is unreal. The browser is amazing, the card feature is awesome, I'm having zero issues with a phone that released 48 hours ago. I'm beyond pleased.

[The Franchise]

Anyone want to buy $110,000 casino cash for $299.99?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Anyone want to buy $110,000 casino cash for $299.99?

LMAO

I'd just like to say that the battery issues I talked about in the OP are attrocious. And I mean fucking attrocious. My phone was in sleep mode last night when I went to bed and the battery was at 83%. Somehow my alarm volume was turned down and I slept right through it. When I did finally get up, the battery was at 55%. That's fucking gross.

[The Franchise]

LMAO

I'd just like to say that the battery issues I talked about in the OP are attrocious. And I mean fucking attrocious. My phone was in sleep mode last night when I went to bed and the battery was at 83%. Somehow my alarm volume was turned down and I slept right through it. When I did finally get up, the battery was at 55%. That's fucking gross.

Damn...that sucks. Hopefully they fix that for the future.

[The Bad Guy]

I just did a double take to make sure they didn't back door me into a plan change. Luckily, (or unluckily depending on how you look at it) they didn't. I should quantify that it's $299.99 then $199.99 after I get my rebate. It looked kind of confusing when I reread it.

This phone is unreal. The browser is amazing, the card feature is awesome, I'm having zero issues with a phone that released 48 hours ago. I'm beyond pleased.

Since you had an Instinct, you are already using a data plan. I have the free and clear unlimited plan (which they don't offer anymore). I'm basically paying 160 a month for that with 5 lines on my account. I have unlimited everything with it.

I just called them and if I switch to the Pre, I'd be paying an additional 70 dollars a month. I'd assume take my business elsewhere then shell out basically 840 dollars additionally on top of the 160 a month I'm paying now for a phone.

[The Franchise]

Since you had an Instinct, you are already using a data plan. I have the free and clear unlimited plan (which they don't offer anymore). I'm basically paying 160 a month for that with 5 lines on my account. I have unlimited everything with it.

I just called them and if I switch to the Pre, I'd be paying an additional 70 dollars a month. I'd assume take my business elsewhere then shell out basically 840 dollars additionally on top of the 160 a month I'm paying now for a phone.

They did that to me when I switched from the Palm Treo Pro to the Instinct. I had to leave the SERO plan that was cheap for the Everything Data plan. Sprint usually will find a way to screw you out of money.

[The Bad Guy]

They did that to me when I switched from the Palm Treo Pro to the Instinct. I had to leave the SERO plan that was cheap for the Everything Data plan. Sprint usually will find a way to screw you out of money.

It's bullshit. They are phasing out customers with these really great phones that they can't get because of the cost.

[The Franchise]

It's bullshit. They are phasing out customers with these really great phones that they can't get because of the cost.

Tell me about it. I've had issues with Sprint in the past when it comes to phones. I had a Palm Treo that took a shit on me....and they basically told me that I would have to get a new phone. I got them talked down to the Instinct for $120 with $100 mail in rebate. So then I find out 4 months later that work is going to pay me money to use my personal phone as my business phone but the Instinct won't work with their Outlook server...and I basically have to get a Blackberry. I call Sprint and explain the situation to them. They tell me it's going to cost me $600 to buy the phone from them. I went on Ebay and got one for $250 and got it activated.

So the fiance has a Palm Centro....and it takes a shit on her. I call in and the Tech Support guy says that they're going to send me a NEW phone (brand new are the exact words). I tell him great. 3 days later I get a refurbished phone and it's already broken. I was on the phone 8 different times over the period of 2 days and talked to 8 different people. 7 people told me they don't send out brand new phones....one person told me that he'd get a brand new phone out to me again. I ended up talking to a supervisor who sent me a brand new phone because I was told by two separate people that they would....even though they don't.

I went on and on with them about how I find it funny that I'm required to pay $300 for a brand new phone but if it breaks....I have to pay $50 for the insurance and then they send me a used phone that was already broken once before.

The cell phone business is the biggest rip off in the world next to college.

[T-post Tom]

LMAO

I'd just like to say that the battery issues I talked about in the OP are attrocious. And I mean ****ing attrocious. My phone was in sleep mode last night when I went to bed and the battery was at 83%. Somehow my alarm volume was turned down and I slept right through it. When I did finally get up, the battery was at 55%. That's ****ing gross.

http://i.treehugger.com/files/wall-wart-charger-01.gif I'm just saying... :)

[Mr. Flopnuts]

http://i.treehugger.com/files/wall-wart-charger-01.gif I'm just saying... :)

Absolutely. What sucks is I pretty much have to take it with me everywhere I go. Maybe I was spoiled by having that extra battery and case that could charge itself to where my phone was never plugged in. I don't know, but it blows.

[The Franchise]

Absolutely. What sucks is I pretty much have to take it with me everywhere I go. Maybe I was spoiled by having that extra battery and case that could charge itself to where my phone was never plugged in. I don't know, but it blows.

That's the one thing I loved about the Instinct. I don't know why other phones don't do it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The battery on this phone could be a deal breaker. As much as I love it, it's a MAJOR inconvenience.

[irishjayhawk]

The battery on this phone could be a deal breaker. As much as I love it, it's a MAJOR inconvenience.

And that's precisely the stance Apple took by saying no background apps - yet.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

And that's precisely the stance Apple took by saying no background apps - yet.

Apple is definitely doing it right. The whole reason I bought this phone to replace a phone that I already loved was because I'm chasing the iphone features. This phone has some, but unless you have a pocket full of batteries and the time to recharge them all every day, you're pretty much spinning your wheels.

[irishjayhawk]

Apple is definitely doing it right. The whole reason I bought this phone to replace a phone that I already loved was because I'm chasing the iphone features. This phone has some, but unless you have a pocket full of batteries and the time to recharge them all every day, you're pretty much spinning your wheels.

Well, I guess instead of phrasing that the way I did (fanboyish), I should have simply asked you the underlying question:

ARe you closing out of your programs so that only your alarm is running? If so, you might wanna consider getting a new unit.

[The Franchise]

Can you just close out of the programs that are running but you aren't using?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

This battery problem is with zero applications running. For instance, I turned my phone off last night before I went to bed and used my Instinct for my alarm. This morning I got up, turned on my phone and went to the gym. I used the music player for about an hour.

After getting to work I went to drop a deuce and read the New York Times on my phone. During lunch I watched some Youtube videos, and I spent about an hour on various phone calls. Here it is about 8 hours after I woke up and turned my phone on, and it's at 30%. Pretty light to moderate use IMO. Honestly, it was at 32% an hour ago so I'm surprised it's that high. But I do not have applications running unless I'm currently using them. I haven't really taken advantage of the multiple apps being open yet and the battery is still just attrocious.

[The Franchise]

This battery problem is with zero applications running. For instance, I turned my phone off last night before I went to bed and used my Instinct for my alarm. This morning I got up, turned on my phone and went to the gym. I used the music player for about an hour.

After getting to work I went to drop a deuce and read the New York Times on my phone. During lunch I watched some Youtube videos, and I spent about an hour on various phone calls. Here it is about 8 hours after I woke up and turned my phone on, and it's at 30%. Pretty light to moderate use IMO. Honestly, it was at 32% an hour ago so I'm surprised it's that high. But I do not have applications running unless I'm currently using them. I haven't really taken advantage of the multiple apps being open yet and the battery is still just attrocious.

Well that sucks. Are you going to return it before the 30 days....or stick with it?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Well that sucks. Are you going to return it before the 30 days....or stick with it?

It really does kick ass. I'm leaning toward returning it because the battery is so bad, but I'll take a week or two to think it over fully. It's a great policy.

[SLAG]

I have the SERO 500 as well and that is the only thing holding me back from getting the pre

My take on the battery issue:
WebOS

The fact that this phone is constantly pinging the cloud -syncing with everything is what is causing the battery performance hit.

My sister picked one up the night before it released at the Premier Launch Party down at P&L and I have played with it plenty - I love it - Since I am a cheap bastage and wont give up my SERO I am sticking with my TouchPro for now and debating on getting the TP2 when it comes out .

The thing is... even if I am pissed at sprint for not letting me change plans - where would I go.. anywhere else is WAYY more expensive than Sprints Normal Plans that are out right now... Add in a 27% NVP discount per month and its ALMOST as good as SERO....

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I have the SERO 500 as well and that is the only thing holding me back from getting the pre

My take on the battery issue:
WebOS

The fact that this phone is constantly pinging the cloud -syncing with everything is what is causing the battery performance hit.

My sister picked one up the night before it released at the Premier Launch Party down at P&L and I have played with it plenty - I love it - Since I am a cheap bastage and wont give up my SERO I am sticking with my TouchPro for now and debating on getting the TP2 when it comes out .

The thing is... even if I am pissed at sprint for not letting me change plans - where would I go.. anywhere else is WAYY more expensive than Sprints Normal Plans that are out right now... Add in a 27% NVP discount per month and its ALMOST as good as SERO....



That's what I'm saying. That 27% discount I get every month makes my plan a damn good one. The Pre is a bigtime bonus. The battery issue is huge for me, but the phone kicks a whole lot of ass.

[xbarretx]

That's what I'm saying. That 27% discount I get every month makes my plan a damn good one. The Pre is a bigtime bonus. The battery issue is huge for me, but the phone kicks a whole lot of ass.

to your earlier post regarding apps....i read that iphone apps can be put on the pre.

yeah SERO is nice, glad i got my employee plan with my instinct. once they make the pre's available to us, ill get one for sure! i like the feature that has your calender and contacts sync'd with GPS that can alert people if your running late and give an ETA based on your location and gps. yes it is big brother-ish, but it makes one less thing for me to worry about if im running late :)

[Taco John]

I have the Pre. My battery doesn't seem to be as bad as Flop's, but it's nowhere near as good as I had with my Treo.

I love this phone. It's as slick as they come. But it's still a beta phone, and I'm not sure that I want to pay to participate in the beta program. I'm thinking of switching to the Treo Pro, and then picking this one up in two years. I've got 29 more days to decide, I suppose.

[Taco John]

One thing that I should note... The battery charges faster than my Treo battery did by a long shot. And when/if I get a touch stone by my desk, it will have the ability to recharge wirelessly...

[XXXshogunXXX]

anyone has or had an iphone and the pre? I stupidly switched from Sprint to ATT just for the iphone. Activation fees and ****in shit other stuff was expensive. I had a horrible $5000 **** over from Cingular years ago and I said ID never go back, I also said Id never buy another apple product either, now Im mad just thinking about it all.

Anyway, how do the two compare? the iphone itself isnt bad. No video, and no picture messaging, (no sexting) I dont think Id run more than 1 app at a time anyway. Anything the Pre has that the Iphone doesnt? Sprint wasnt bad when I was with them, their coverage is better than ATT.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I just don't think I can give this phone up. Today let's talk about GPS on crack. Open up the Where app, and find not only any restaurant, movie theatre, etc. near you, but also gasoline. Not just any gasoline, this program will figure out where exactly you are and then give you current prices at every station, for every grade of gas they sell, and will give you turn by turn instructions to get there. Just. Fucking. Awesome.

I'm wondering if the battery expands as you charge it a few times. I've used it about the same every day, but today my batter is at 60% where as yesterday at this time it was under 50%. Weird, but working to my advantage today. I think I'm going to just get an extra battery and a car charger and call it good. I'll end up with the stone for wireless charging at some point so I think I can live with this.

Not one time has the browser crashed, nor have I had any problems with applications not working. It's been spot on perfect.

[kepp]

LMAO

I'd just like to say that the battery issues I talked about in the OP are attrocious. And I mean ****ing attrocious. My phone was in sleep mode last night when I went to bed and the battery was at 83%. Somehow my alarm volume was turned down and I slept right through it. When I did finally get up, the battery was at 55%. That's ****ing gross.

That's the main reason I went away from the old palm treos. The battery life was horrible.

[The Franchise]

You assholes are going to make me end up buying one.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

You assholes are going to make me end up buying one.

Battery be damned, I don't think you'll regret it. It's so much better than I originally expected. And like Taco said, we're just getting started. It's pretty much in beta mode and for me, I'm good with it. It can only improve from here.

[The Franchise]

Battery be damned, I don't think you'll regret it. It's so much better than I originally expected. And like Taco said, we're just getting started. It's pretty much in beta mode and for me, I'm good with it. It can only improve from here.

My problem is.....I've had a Palm Treo...and my fiance has a Palm Centro....and they've both crapped out on us before.

Does it synch up to Outlook?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

My problem is.....I've had a Palm Treo...and my fiance has a Palm Centro....and they've both crapped out on us before.

Does it synch up to Outlook?

Not directly. If you just want email it's not a problem. If you want your calandar and everything else you'll have to use 3rd party software that costs $30.

http://www.companionlink.com/products/clg-googlesync/companionlinkforgoogle-pre-outlook.html?gclid=CIqquqqBg5sCFQdN5QodlGRMdA

Unless of course there is a way I'm not aware of, which is a damn good possibility. :D

[The Franchise]

Not for Google....I mean for my work. Right now I have my Blackberry synched up with my work e-mail...so I have to pay $20 a month for the Secure Blackberry Server.

[epitome1170]

Not for Google....I mean for my work. Right now I have my Blackberry synched up with my work e-mail...so I have to pay $20 a month for the Secure Blackberry Server.

That is one of the main things I am wondering about. I have a BB and absolutely could not live without being able to synch my calendar, contacts and email.

The wife works for Sprint in the tech side and she does say they have had a lot of complaints about the battery life. I am curious if a new version will come out to fix this problem.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm really torn on just waiting for the second batch to come out. I got a pretty nice offer from Sprint the other day to get one.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Battery is at 40% and I'm using it quite a bit this afternoon. This is much better than it has been. They're conditioning me.

[Taco John]

That's the main reason I went away from the old palm treos. The battery life was horrible.

That hasn't been my experience. I've gotten fantastic battery life out of all my Treos. I have taken them on multi-day backpacking trips with only one battery reserve and made it all five days using the MP3. And I've never had a problem with my talk time. I can't say that I ever drained the battery completely from daily usage. Always had enough juice to do what I needed to do.

[Taco John]

My problem is.....I've had a Palm Treo...and my fiance has a Palm Centro....and they've both crapped out on us before.

Does it synch up to Outlook?


I have my Pre synched to my work email using our company's exchange server. Worked like a charm - all I did was put in my email address and password. That was it. I had been expecting to have to call our tech support and go through a whole "thing." I was like - what? This is it?

So now, I can get all my work emails on my hip. In fact, my Pre dings before my desktop gets them, so I know when my emails are coming.

[The Franchise]

I have my Pre synched to my work email using our company's exchange server. Worked like a charm - all I did was put in my email address and password. That was it. I had been expecting to have to call our tech support and go through a whole "thing." I was like - what? This is it?

So now, I can get all my work emails on my hip. In fact, my Pre dings before my desktop gets them, so I know when my emails are coming.

Quit making me want one!!!!!!

[AustinChief]

That's what I'm saying. That 27% discount I get every month makes my plan a damn good one. The Pre is a bigtime bonus. The battery issue is huge for me, but the phone kicks a whole lot of ass.

I would take it in and have the battery checked or replaced. It sounds like yoy simply have a bad battery.. I know two people with the Pre and haven't heard a battery complaint yet.

Now I understand if you are used to a blackberry battery... those are freaking unworldly in their battery life... but if you are used to a normal Palm, it should NOT be a huge dropoff if you are efficient about things...

http://blog.laptopmag.com/5-tips-to-add-4-hours-of-battery-life-to-your-palm-pre

My $.02, if this doesn't help... you have a bad battery. It happens.

[AustinChief]

After doing some research, it appears that alot of people who are having the battery issue are seeing it slowly go away after a few charging cycles. Sounds to me like the two people I know were some of the "lucky" ones who got properly charged batteries to start with.

On a related note... here isa slightly bigger battery as a spare. http://www.preaccessories.com/seidio-innocell-1350-extended-battery/8A37A5644.htm I may preorder one now.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

After doing some research, it appears that alot of people who are having the battery issue are seeing it slowly go away after a few charging cycles. Sounds to me like the two people I know were some of the "lucky" ones who got properly charged batteries to start with.

On a related note... here isa slightly bigger battery as a spare. http://www.preaccessories.com/seidio-innocell-1350-extended-battery/8A37A5644.htm I may preorder one now.

You're the man. Mine's been on for 14 hours at pretty moderate use and is at 15% right now. It's much better than yesterday and I hope it'll get better yet. Thanks for the info, I love this phone and will be thrilled if I can address the battery issue.

[AustinChief]

You're the man. Mine's been on for 14 hours at pretty moderate use and is at 15% right now. It's much better than yesterday and I hope it'll get better yet. Thanks for the info, I love this phone and will be thrilled if I can address the battery issue.

According to my sources (i.e. google :) ) some of the battery issue resolution will occur due to software fixes.. apparently quite a few bugs (one huge one in AIM) that are causing battery bleed. So as they iron those out, you should see even more battery life.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

According to my sources (i.e. google :) ) some of the battery issue resolution will occur due to software fixes.. apparently quite a few bugs (one huge one in AIM) that are causing battery bleed. So as they iron those out, you should see even more battery life.

I'll have to do a little homework. That makes sense though considering the I haven't had to charge it yet. I'll drain it dead and recharge again and it'll probably be even better tomorrow. Ahh, life is good again. Thank you sir.

[Taco John]

According to my sources (i.e. google :) ) some of the battery issue resolution will occur due to software fixes.. apparently quite a few bugs (one huge one in AIM) that are causing battery bleed. So as they iron those out, you should see even more battery life.

Now that you mention this, I remember this happening with the Treo 650 once. Battery life was shockingly short, and then they put in an upgrade and suddenly I had mad battery life. I remember being dumbfounded by that.

[Taco John]

I'll have to do a little homework. That makes sense though considering the I haven't had to charge it yet. I'll drain it dead and recharge again and it'll probably be even better tomorrow. Ahh, life is good again. Thank you sir.

Are you draining it all the way on purpose?

I have been plugging mine in at about 47%...

[beach tribe]

I dont really understand the "having everything open at once". I listen to music while writing emails, or surfing the net, or whatever on my Iphone, and if you close an app, it picks up right where you left off as if it was never closed when you open it back up.
I love the 16gig 3G. Probably my favorite toy I've ever had, but I'm always into the most advanced stuff, so I'm interested in how it goes for you.

[beach tribe]

I have my Pre synched to my work email using our company's exchange server. Worked like a charm - all I did was put in my email address and password. That was it. I had been expecting to have to call our tech support and go through a whole "thing." I was like - what? This is it?

So now, I can get all my work emails on my hip. In fact, my Pre dings before my desktop gets them, so I know when my emails are coming.

I've had my Iphone doing this for about 6 mo. through outlook. Any changes I make in scheduling, contacts, or reminders is automatically synced between my work CPU, and my phone.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Are you draining it all the way on purpose?

I have been plugging mine in at about 47%...

Yeah, I've always heard that draining it to zero helps prolong the battery life, and well, for lack of better terms, it makes it last longer between charges. I've gone retarded, sorry.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

It's been on for 6 hours today, I listened to music at the gym as usual, and have spent close to an hour on the phone. No other usage. 75% right now. I think that's better but since I haven't used any apps today I don't know for sure. This weekend will really tell the story.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yeah, I've always heard that draining it to zero helps prolong the battery life, and well, for lack of better terms, it makes it last longer between charges. I've gone retarded, sorry.

After I drain it completely 5 times I'll start charging it whenever I can.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Mr. Pestilence, there is an app for the Pre that allows synching your Outlook calendar, contacts, and email to your Pre. It's called Pocketmirror, and like all apps for the Pre, it's free. This works with, or without an exchange server, but wifi is required.

[The Franchise]

Mr. Pestilence, there is an app for the Pre that allows synching your Outlook calendar, contacts, and email to your Pre. It's called Pocketmirror, and like all apps for the Pre, it's free. This works with, or without an exchange server, but wifi is required.

Hmm.....well my contract isn't up for another year and a half and Sprint is really fucking horrible when trying to give their customers "deals" on new phones....so it looks like I'll just wait for now.

Thanks though.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hmm.....well my contract isn't up for another year and a half and Sprint is really fucking horrible when trying to give their customers "deals" on new phones....so it looks like I'll just wait for now.

Thanks though.

You should be able to upgrade every 12 months now with their preferred customer marketing scheme they have going. I'm not trying to talk you into anything, just giving you the information since you seemed interested.

[The Franchise]

You should be able to upgrade every 12 months now with their preferred customer marketing scheme they have going. I'm not trying to talk you into anything, just giving you the information since you seemed interested.

Yeah....but I think it would still end up costing me a bunch of money. I'll have to check into it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yeah....but I think it would still end up costing me a bunch of money. I'll have to check into it.

Well, I paid almost $350 out the door, and it was $350 by the time I bought an OEM car charger off of Ebay. But I'll get $100 back, and can probably get 175 out of my Instinct on craigslist. That's what they're going for now, and there isn't a bunch of choices out here. So all in all, it's going to cost me around $75 out of pocket.

[Taco John]

I've had my Iphone doing this for about 6 mo. through outlook. Any changes I make in scheduling, contacts, or reminders is automatically synced between my work CPU, and my phone.


I think that the iPhone is a really cool toy. But the keyboard is a deal breaker for me. It's what makes it a toy, rather than a tool - and that's what I need: a tool. Now, I understand that a lot of people are probably getting what they need from the iPhone in that regard. But for my use, I just couldn't use it. I need the tactile feel of real keys. Typing on a screen would drive me to spike the thing into the curb.

I'm not trying to put down the iPhone users, because I think the iPhone is pretty awesome in its own right. But for me, I need a keyboard.

[Taco John]

By the way... It's official. I am keeping it, even though I recognize that I'm in the beta program. But that will be fun in a way, because new things will keep coming. In fact, I'm actually considering starting a company to develop apps for this thing.

The Pre is hot shit.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

By the way... It's official. I am keeping it, even though I recognize that I'm in the beta program. But that will be fun in a way, because new things will keep coming. In fact, I'm actually considering starting a company to develop apps for this thing.

The Pre is hot shit.

I'm incredibly impressed with it's reliability considering it's less than a week out of it's launch date. I'm not giving it up. I'll buy batteries before I do that, but my battery problem is improving.

[The Franchise]

Well, I paid almost $350 out the door, and it was $350 by the time I bought an OEM car charger off of Ebay. But I'll get $100 back, and can probably get 175 out of my Instinct on craigslist. That's what they're going for now, and there isn't a bunch of choices out here. So all in all, it's going to cost me around $75 out of pocket.

Talked to Sprint. I'm not eligible for the discount until 10/01/2009.

Then it will cost me $299.99....and I get the $100 mail in rebate. Maybe it's a good thing because then I can see how much it's improved and there will be all of the cool apps out for it as well.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Talked to Sprint. I'm not eligible for the discount until 10/01/2009.

Then it will cost me $299.99....and I get the $100 mail in rebate. Maybe it's a good thing because then I can see how much it's improved and there will be all of the cool apps out for it as well.

Definitely not a bad thing. This is the first phone I've ever bought at launch. I came close on the Instinct but I didn't qualify for an upgrade at the time and ended up buying it on craigslist. 4 months of history is good info before making the plunge.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Battery is at 40% and I'm using it quite a bit this afternoon. This is much better than it has been. They're conditioning me.

53% today at about the same time. I've picked up my use in the last couple of hours and think while it's less than yesterdays use, it's definitely better than it was.

[Taco John]

Flop, are you a baseball fan? Have you checked out the Sporting News Pro Baseball app yet?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Flop, are you a baseball fan? Have you checked out the Sporting News Pro Baseball app yet?

I actually just discovered it today. I haven't gotten a chance to dive into it yet, but plan on it tonight. The reviews for it were awesome.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

My battery is at 28%. I absolutely love the Sporting News baseball app.

[The Bad Guy]

Sprint told me it would cost me 399 and then a 100 dollar rebate. Is that what the cost was for you Flop?

[Taco John]

Sprint told me it would cost me 399 and then a 100 dollar rebate. Is that what the cost was for you Flop?


I paid $299, and then get a $100 rebate. I signed a two year contract.

[Taco John]

Hey flop... When you drain your phone completely and then plug it in, does it disallow you from using the phone until it is fully charged again?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Sprint told me it would cost me 399 and then a 100 dollar rebate. Is that what the cost was for you Flop?

No. I paid 299 and then a 100 dollar rebate. That's bullshit. Was it an affiliate? Or Sprint themselves?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hey flop... When you drain your phone completely and then plug it in, does it disallow you from using the phone until it is fully charged again?

No I can still make calls. It's a lot slower charging when I'm on the phone, but I haven't had any problems while charging. It's fully functional. That Sporting News app is seriously awesome.

[The Bad Guy]

I went in and tested it out.

While I like it, I can't justify giving up my current package of unlimited anytime minutes for myself and the other 4 lines on the account. The only plan I could go to is 1500 anytime. That just won't cut it.

[Taco John]

I'm going to go ahead and call it without bothering to even so much as use an iPod. The gesture bar is the knockout punch. WebOS is the absolute bomb. I never want to live without a gesture pad again. Everything else seems like an Etch-a-Sketch to me now. I am ascending into mobile nirvana. The iPod is cool, no doubt. I saw it last night, and was impressed. But the thing was looks like a lunk to pack around in comparison. This thing is a true palm, and it's OS is absolutely changing the game. This thing is revolutionizing mobile computers in a similar way that the Wii revolutionized gaming. And that's what this thing feels like: a mobile computer. This thing is not just a phone - it's an information center.

This phone actually makes you feel powerful when you use it.

That's not to say the phone is perfect. Far from it. I hate the music player, but am confident that someone will develop a good one for it (there's certainly an open market there). But this thing is an empowerment vehicle. The more I use this phone, the more I think that we're going to start hearing the words "mobile economy" with increased frequency.

If you like to watch movies on your phone, this probably isn't the phone for you. It doesn't do that well. It does it, but that's not even close to where it excels. The OS is where the Pre excels. You've never had information at your fingertips like this before. Just the act of closing a program feels powerful on the Pre, as you flick your finger... "Eh... don't want it anymore." A useless email you've just consumed *flick* "Get out of my face." Switching to a new application *flick* *flick* *flick* Remember the empowered feeling of tabbed browsing? The empowerment factor here feels similar.

I can't wait to see what people do with this platform. But that's where I come to the downside - this thing is an absolute infant. There are things that they got wrong in the software that they're still working on. For my part, I've experienced some annoyance with how some of the apps that come with the phone operate. I mentioned the music player earlier. I think it's juevenile. The phone itself is a masterpiece in function and form in harmony. The music player has decided to emphasize form over the function. It looks pretty, but it's not anywhere as powerful as Pocket Tunes. You can't just close the app and resume where you left off - you have to start at the beginning of the pick list. If you search by genre, you get the entire list by genre, rather than given a list of artists within that genre to select from. Skipping around in the middle of tracks doesn't even seem like an option. I'm hoping someone (Pocket Tunes) takes advantage of this currently wide open market. I'm taking the next train off of this app.

Battery life is a concern, but this problem doesn't come without a revolutionary solution. I haven't gotten it yet, but I believe owning the touchstone will solve much of the battery life issue. Being able to recharge my phone just by sitting it on the desk - that's going to be cool. And if I can get one for the car too, the battery life concern virtually evaporates. I'll eventually grab a spare for that rare instance when I might need it.

Bottom line: This thing is the real deal, but it doesn't come without its caveats. The apps aren't here yet, but the platform most definitely is. I'm sold on the platform. Long live WebOS!

[irishjayhawk]

I still don't think any phone can truly revolutionize mobile computing until it is carrier-independent.

It was the biggest complaint against the iPhone which was revolutionary. And it's the biggest complaint against the Pre which is evolutionary.

Give me either of those phones on my grandfathered t-mobile plan and I'll bite.

[Taco John]

I still don't think any phone can truly revolutionize mobile computing until it is carrier-independent.



Carrier independancy will never happen. There's no business model for it. If consumers had to pay for the true cost of the phone up front, the phones couldn't be mainstream.

Of course, someday, Democrats are going to say that having an Internet connected mobile phone is a fundamental right. Maybe if government socialized the phone industry, carrier independance could become a reality. But until then, they're going to need those big contracts to help subsidize the phone.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I never ever buy phones at release, it's just not my style. But Taco nailed this out of the park. WebOS is amazing, and it does make you feel powerful. I particularly enjoyed the flick, flick, flick, do not want analogy. It's true. I feel like a big winner for taking the leap on a brand new phone for the first time in my life. This phone is awesome.

[irishjayhawk]

Carrier independancy will never happen. There's no business model for it. If consumers had to pay for the true cost of the phone up front, the phones couldn't be mainstream.

Of course, someday, Democrats are going to say that having an Internet connected mobile phone is a fundamental right. Maybe if government socialized the phone industry, carrier independance could become a reality. But until then, they're going to need those big contracts to help subsidize the phone.

Well, you're ignoring the obvious solution. That is, the phone is picked by the consumer and then the carrier dishes out a subsidy on that phone in order to lure the customer to them.

Europe does this with great success. And it's much easier to unlock phones over there. While not illegal here, it's frowned upon and not many people know you can do it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Well, you're ignoring the obvious solution. That is, the phone is picked by the consumer and then the carrier dishes out a subsidy on that phone in order to lure the customer to them.

Europe does this with great success. And it's much easier to unlock phones over there. While not illegal here, it's frowned upon and not many people know you can do it.

As far as I know, you can only unlock GSM phones. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA.

[irishjayhawk]

As far as I know, you can only unlock GSM phones. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA.

Well, you can unlock a CDMA phone to use on a CDMA network, of course.

But yes, you have to be on the compatible network for your phone to function.


PS. In fact, someone claimed early last week that they potentially had the first unlocked Palm Pre.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hmm. I probably would've gotten a Blackberry Storm if I'd known that. Of course I had no idea the Pre was coming out then. Definitely one instance where ignorance was bliss. :D

[irishjayhawk]

Hmm. I probably would've gotten a Blackberry Storm if I'd known that. Of course I had no idea the Pre was coming out then. Definitely one instance where ignorance was bliss. :D

And if you'd have asked for advice, I would have adamantly advised you against the Storm. I've played with it (hated it) and roomed with a guy who hates it.

Definitely got a break there.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

And if you'd have asked for advice, I would have adamantly advised you against the Storm. I've played with it (hated it) and roomed with a guy who hates it.

Definitely got a break there.

Wow. It looked so bad ass. I haven't even played with it though, but I loved my 8703e. It was my own personal secretary.

[irishjayhawk]

Wow. It looked so bad ass. I haven't even played with it though, but I loved my 8703e. It was my own personal secretary.

You'd think a touch screen with that tactile feeling when you press it down would be a good solution or compromise. Not so. It's horrendous.

The funny thing was I warned him relentlessly about the Storm before he got it. So my sympathies are limited.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

You'd think a touch screen with that tactile feeling when you press it down would be a good solution or compromise. Not so. It's horrendous.

The funny thing was I warned him relentlessly about the Storm before he got it. So my sympathies are limited.

LMAO As they should be.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wasn't sure about the touchstone. I mean, $70 for a wireless charging mechanism is a little excessive to me. However, I just met some lady down at my local Sprint store to sell her my old Instinct. While I was there, an associate saw me eyeing the touchstone and told me they only had one left. I told him that I was a Premier customer (whatever the fuck that really means) and I had a 20% off any one accessory coupon but not with me. He told me he would give me 20% off of their last touchstone if I wanted it. So I paid $55 for it, and walked out of there once again thrilled with Sprint's superior customer service. Never would've thought I'd say that a couple of years ago.

[Taco John]

The TS seems like a no-brainer to me. Unfortunately, I'm in a pinch after buying the phone, so I'll have to wait.

I did a stress test tonight trying to drain the battery. I managed to get 18 different cards open (while Pandora was playing) before it wouldn't let me open any more cards. The speed was great up until the last three cards.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The TS seems like a no-brainer to me. Unfortunately, I'm in a pinch after buying the phone, so I'll have to wait.

I did a stress test tonight trying to drain the battery. I managed to get 18 different cards open (while Pandora was playing) before it wouldn't let me open any more cards. The speed was great up until the last three cards.

Now that I have it, I'm glad I have it. It's amazing how well that OS is running considering how brand new it is. I guess I'm just used to crashes from other smart phones and assumed it would be the same with the Pre. I haven't had 1 crash. Not 1. It's been seamless, and perfect.

[dirk digler]

Looks like Palm and or Sprint lied to customers when they said it would sync with Exchange.

The problem is that if your corporation has security policies set in Exchange which 99.9% of Exchange deployments do then it won't sync.

Apparently alot of people aren't very happy about this and are returning the phone.

Hopefully Palm will get this fixed because it looks like a great phone.

[The Franchise]

Looks like Palm and or Sprint lied to customers when they said it would sync with Exchange.

The problem is that if your corporation has security policies set in Exchange which 99.9% of Exchange deployments do then it won't sync.

Apparently alot of people aren't very happy about this and are returning the phone.

Hopefully Palm will get this fixed because it looks like a great phone.

I'm hoping they fix this....or I won't be getting one in October. My phone HAS to be able to sync up with my work e-mail or I can't use it. I'm not going to carry two fucking phones around with me.

Palm....please don't let this kill my dreams of having a Pre.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wasn't aware of this at all. I show an app for it, but since I have no use for it I haven't checked it out. Good luck to those who want it, the phone is billy badass.

[Taco John]

Looks like Palm and or Sprint lied to customers when they said it would sync with Exchange.

The problem is that if your corporation has security policies set in Exchange which 99.9% of Exchange deployments do then it won't sync.

Apparently alot of people aren't very happy about this and are returning the phone.

Hopefully Palm will get this fixed because it looks like a great phone.


I haven't had a problem syncing with my company's exchange server.

[dirk digler]

I haven't had a problem syncing with my company's exchange server.

Then your company is in the absolute minority of not having security policies pushed to mobile phone or they added you to the exception list.

[Taco John]

Then your company is in the absolute minority of not having security policies pushed to mobile phone or they added you to the exception list.


This could be the case. All I know is that I put in my email address and password, and *bing*, I got email.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The TS seems like a no-brainer to me. Unfortunately, I'm in a pinch after buying the phone, so I'll have to wait.



I would've never pegged you as fiscally responsible. :p

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Who needs chiefplanet mobile when you have this beautiful OS? I'll have to take a picture of my phone and post it tonight. Pure awesome, it looks just like my computer only smaller.

[Buehler445]

ROFL. On my browser at work, I'm getting an ad for a Blackberry Curve through sprint.

GOOGLE FAIL
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[irishjayhawk]

Who needs chiefplanet mobile when you have this beautiful OS? I'll have to take a picture of my phone and post it tonight. Pure awesome, it looks just like my computer only smaller.

Out of curiosity, had you not even used an iPhone or iPod Touch?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Out of curiosity, had you not even used an iPhone or iPod Touch?

No. So I can make no judgments at all. I've seen them, but I know nothing about them. I didn't want to tease myself since there is no way on God's green Earth I leave Sprint for AT&T. I get a 27% discount every month with Sprint for an employee discount, and my personal experiences with Sprint are golden in the last 3 years. I only had issues with them the first year, they've done everything to take care of me ever since.

I'm just glad someone is trying to match the level of awesome I think the iphone has.

[irishjayhawk]

No. So I can make no judgments at all. I've seen them, but I know nothing about them. I didn't want to tease myself since there is no way on God's green Earth I leave Sprint for AT&T. I get a 27% discount every month with Sprint for an employee discount, and my personal experiences with Sprint are golden in the last 3 years. I only had issues with them the first year, they've done everything to take care of me ever since.

I'm just glad someone is trying to match the level of awesome I think the iphone has.

I didn't mean anything by the comment. It's just the your reaction and TJ's review seemed to indicate to me that neither of you had really played with the iPhone OS. In that case, it seems obvious why the Pre seems more revolutionary than it really is.

To that end, I love competition.

[wutamess]

have you tried to adjust your power settings on your phone. My wife had me do some things with my Touch Pro and it's now lasting all day.

Like turn the backlight down to where it won't be as brite, etc.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

have you tried to adjust your power settings on your phone. My wife had me do some things with my Touch Pro and it's now lasting all day.

Like turn the backlight down to where it won't be as brite, etc.

Yeah I did do that, but my battery issue was taking care of itself before. Now, with those adjustments as well my battery lasts all day long and I have no problems with it. Thanks for the tips though.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I didn't mean anything by the comment. It's just the your reaction and TJ's review seemed to indicate to me that neither of you had really played with the iPhone OS. In that case, it seems obvious why the Pre seems more revolutionary than it really is.

To that end, I love competition.

I had a feeling that was the case. See, when the Instinct came out and they said "Oh, it's an iphone killer." I believed them. I didn't know any better. I learned pretty quick that there was no way the iphone was generating as much hype as it was based on anything the Instinct could do.

When I got the Pre, I thought, yeah, this is the real deal. I imagined that it was way more iphonesque than anything previously on the market. The OS looked a lot like the stuff I had been seeing on iphone commercials. I've wanted one forever, but it was going to cost me a lot more than just the price of the phone to do it. So I didn't. I'm hoping they really run with the Pre and give iphone all they can handle. If they do, everyone wins.

[irishjayhawk]

I had a feeling that was the case. See, when the Instinct came out and they said "Oh, it's an iphone killer." I believed them. I didn't know any better. I learned pretty quick that there was no way the iphone was generating as much hype as it was based on anything the Instinct could do.

When I got the Pre, I thought, yeah, this is the real deal. I imagined that it was way more iphonesque than anything previously on the market. The OS looked a lot like the stuff I had been seeing on iphone commercials. I've wanted one forever, but it was going to cost me a lot more than just the price of the phone to do it. So I didn't. I'm hoping they really run with the Pre and give iphone all they can handle. If they do, everyone wins.

Kinda the same boat I'm in except I'm stuck with Dinosaur technology courtesy of T-Mobile. So I understand completely where you're coming from. Luckily, I got an iPod Touch to carry me over. :P

[SithCeNtZ]

Kinda the same boat I'm in except I'm stuck with Dinosaur technology courtesy of T-Mobile. So I understand completely where you're coming from. Luckily, I got an iPod Touch to carry me over. :P

You are never stuck with dinosaur tech on Tmobile, you always have overseas :evil: . Worst thing that ever happened to me was getting a free cell phone plan that wasn't tmobile for work. No more high high end world phones :(

[irishjayhawk]

You are never stuck with dinosaur tech on Tmobile, you always have overseas :evil: . Worst thing that ever happened to me was getting a free cell phone plan that wasn't tmobile for work. No more high high end world phones :(

I was specifically told that an iPhone from Germany (since T-Mobile has rights) would not be feasible.

Not true?

[Taco John]

I didn't mean anything by the comment. It's just the your reaction and TJ's review seemed to indicate to me that neither of you had really played with the iPhone OS. In that case, it seems obvious why the Pre seems more revolutionary than it really is.

To that end, I love competition.


The gesture pad/OS is truly revolutionary. It seems so simple, but the amount of power those little swipes have is considerable. This OS is a dream to me.

I don't have anything bad to say about the iPhone. It looks pretty cool. But the Palm Pre is a real "palm" computer (fits in my palm), has a keyboard, gesture pad, and wireless touchstone. The keyboard brought me to the party. The rest is what got my pants off.

[Taco John]

No one can beat me at Connect four bitches!

[Taco John]

Hear me now and believe me later. In 20 years WebOS is going to be as commonly known as Windows. And I'm not putting down Apple. I think that the two companies are going to co-exist like Coke and Pepsi.

[irishjayhawk]

The gesture pad/OS is truly revolutionary. It seems so simple, but the amount of power those little swipes have is considerable. This OS is a dream to me.

The reason it seems revolutionary instead of evolutionary is because you hadn't really played with the iPhone. I'm not saying that's good or bad. What I am saying is you can't deny the fact that the original iPhone was revolutionary in that it changed the landscape of phones - specifically operating systems of phones.

WebOS took the gestures that Apple had already implemented them and did different things with them. More power to them. In fact, I disagree with the whole Apple can patent gestures. I find that ridiculous law if true.


I don't have anything bad to say about the iPhone. It looks pretty cool. But the Palm Pre is a real "palm" computer (fits in my palm), has a keyboard, gesture pad, and wireless touchstone. The keyboard brought me to the party. The rest is what got my pants off.

Well, that explains a lot. The keyboard. I don't have any prejudice against onscreen or physical keyboards. And I think that's how most people are going to be as they grow up on the iPod Touch/iPhone. It'll be interesting to see.

[irishjayhawk]

Oh, so I briefly (under 3 minutes) played with the Palm Pre at the mall. In my very limited experience, the software looked pretty sweet. (And I'm still impressed with must of the design of the UI with all the pics I've seen.) Loading was somewhat slow, though. But I can say that the build quality sucks major balls. It feels cheap, the keyboard is small as hell and I'd never type on that thing ever, and as Gizmodo pointed out, actually uncovering the keyboard hurts somewhat. The plastic is pretty sharp and not smoothed over. Very poor indeed.


Also, I have to point out one thing I've hated about the Touch/iPhone from day one: I don't think they adequately thought out the whole navigation aspect. Having multiple screens with multiple icons on each is not ideal. It's also a reason why they're having a problem with notifications.

[SithCeNtZ]

I was specifically told that an iPhone from Germany (since T-Mobile has rights) would not be feasible.

Not true?

I have no idea to be honest with you, but considering you always have a library of about every phone in the world to purchase and run on tmobile, I'm not sure that it matters. My run on Tmobile was fantastic and if I didn't have a work plan through sprint I'd still be on tmobile. Phones unlocked from China with HD screens and real cameras>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iphone IMO.

On the Pre, I love the phone but the build quality is not so great and my phone has already suffered from the crack screen problem that has hit some of the phones. Sad but I get another for free so no big deal.

[SLAG]

I am giving in...

Sprint Just approved an early ugprade for one of my lines...

I will be [grudgingly] dumping my SERO line and getting the palm pre

Know anyone that wants to buy an HTC TouchPro or an iPod Touch 2nd GEN 8gb with 3.0 OS?

[phisherman]

You're giving up your SERO for the pre?

It's a cool phone, but not worth the extra $40-50 a month.

[SLAG]

You're giving up your SERO for the pre?

It's a cool phone, but not worth the extra $40-50 a month.


Yes, I am.. I may actually come out paying $10 more a month or even break even by leaving sero and going to a family plan and adding a 27% recurring monthly discount to the bill

so it wont be that bad

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yes, I am.. I may actually come out paying $10 more a month or even break even by leaving sero and going to a family plan and adding a 27% recurring monthly discount to the bill

so it wont be that bad

I do love my 27%.

[phisherman]

honestly, don't be surprised if those discounts start to shrink. a lot of their partner discounts have already started to.

[The Bad Guy]

I do love my 27%.

How are you getting 27%. I was getting 20%.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

How are you getting 27%. I was getting 20%.

Citigroup employee discount.

[SLAG]

SDK is now leaked [ http://www.precentral.net/webos-sdk-leaks-out ]

This phone is about to be blown wide open

I LOVE IT!!!!!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I was just about to post that.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Homebrew apps are right around the corner.

[irishjayhawk]

No one has complaints about the sharpness of the edge where you flip the phone up for the keyboard?

It was literally like my first observation.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

No one has complaints about the sharpness of the edge where you flip the phone up for the keyboard?

It was literally like my first observation.

I had to actually look for it after your post. The way I hold the phone when sliding it upwards never bothered me. I do see what you're talking about when looking for it though.

[SLAG]

There are now 31 homebrew apps - http://www.precentral.net/palm-pre-homebrew-31-apps-official-app-catalog-30

including this sweet tethering app: http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/191213-my-tether-tether-over-wifi-usb-bt-rooting-required.html

[jiveturkey]

I'm a long time Verizon customer and I was considering moving to Spring for this phone and the deals on their plans. So I went into Verizon today and asked if they have anything comparable (my plan is up the end of Aug) and the sales rep told me that they're getting the Palm Pre around Thanksgiving. We priced a plan that would suit me and it's only $15/month more than the Spring plan I was going to go with.

Has anyone else heard of the Pre making a move to Verizon?

I love the coverage that I get with the Verizon phone so jumping carriers was a little scary anyway.

[morphius]

I'm a long time Verizon customer and I was considering moving to Spring for this phone and the deals on their plans. So I went into Verizon today and asked if they have anything comparable (my plan is up the end of Aug) and the sales rep told me that they're getting the Palm Pre around Thanksgiving. We priced a plan that would suit me and it's only $15/month more than the Spring plan I was going to go with.

Has anyone else heard of the Pre making a move to Verizon?

I love the coverage that I get with the Verizon phone so jumping carriers was a little scary anyway.
They are lying if they say thanksgiving, Sprint has it exclusive till the end of 2009 at the least. I'm not even sure that Verizon even has their hands on a model for testing, and of course ripping out all the cool features. 'Cause that is the way they seem to roll.

[jiveturkey]

They are lying if they say thanksgiving, Sprint has it exclusive till the end of 2009 at the least. I'm not even sure that Verizon even has their hands on a model for testing, and of course ripping out all the cool features. 'Cause that is the way they seem to roll.I just talked to a friend that said Verizon will lock it down if they do get it. They'll block access to Palm app stores and make you use a customized Version Palm app store.

He said it's why he's always avoided using Verizon.

This is damn hard. There's cool phones out there but everyone hates their providers.

iPhone users hate AT&T. It's expensive and the connection speeds suck.
Verizon has shitty phones, shitty browers but awesome coverage.
T-Mobile has shitty coverage.
Sprint has great pricing but is their coverage shitty?

I might make the jump anyway. I don't want to get a kick ass phone and have it held back by Verizon's shitty app store and lock down mode. If I buy it I should get to put whatever I want on it.

[morphius]

I just talked to a friend that said Verizon will lock it down if they do get it. They'll block access to Palm app stores and make you use a customized Version Palm app store.

He said it's why he's always avoided using Verizon.

This is damn hard. There's cool phones out there but everyone hates their providers.

iPhone users hate AT&T. It's expensive and the connection speeds suck.
Verizon has shitty phones, shitty browers but awesome coverage.
T-Mobile has shitty coverage.
Sprint has great pricing but is their coverage shitty?

I might make the jump anyway. I don't want to get a kick ass phone and have it held back by Verizon's shitty app store and lock down mode. If I buy it I should get to put whatever I want on it.
All the providers find a way to piss off their customers, lol. I still can't believe that rep lied and said Thanksgiving, that is such a blatant lie it should be prosecuted as false advertising.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I just talked to a friend that said Verizon will lock it down if they do get it. They'll block access to Palm app stores and make you use a customized Version Palm app store.

He said it's why he's always avoided using Verizon.

This is damn hard. There's cool phones out there but everyone hates their providers.

iPhone users hate AT&T. It's expensive and the connection speeds suck.
Verizon has shitty phones, shitty browers but awesome coverage.
T-Mobile has shitty coverage.
Sprint has great pricing but is their coverage shitty?

I might make the jump anyway. I don't want to get a kick ass phone and have it held back by Verizon's shitty app store and lock down mode. If I buy it I should get to put whatever I want on it.

I have had nothing but good experiences with Sprint for the last 3 years. 5 years ago when I first signed up, there were mystery charges on my bill that I had to call and have removed every, single month and their customer service was absolutely terrible.

About 3 years ago it all changed. The charges stopped, and the few times I had to call them they went above and beyond to take care of me. One time I was issued a $50 credit just for the inconvenience of having to call 3 times to get an issue resolved. I love them. The prices are the best in the industry, and I've never had a problem with coverage.

Keep in mind I live in Seattle. I don't know how much of a difference that really makes, but I've heard people in KC complain about dropped calls.

[AustinChief]

Palm Pre WebOs 1.1 update and NFL Mobile Live app both should be out by Aug. 1st. (the new OS will fix all the exchange issues and include some minor updates)

http://mypre.com/nfl-mobile-live-coming-to-palm-pre-2009142156/


According to Sprint; it’s the NFL whenever and however you want it. With Live audio broadcasts of every regular season game, 8 Live NFL Network games, Live NFL Network 24/7. And don’t forget the Customizable “Red Zone Alerts”, that let you know when a team is likely to score. Sprint has also simulcast the NFL Network’s Live Rookie Draft broadcast, for the last four years, along with text alerts for draft picks, general NFL news and blog posts, and a live countdown Clock.

[SLAG]

Palm Pre WebOs 1.1 update and NFL Mobile Live app both should be out by Aug. 1st. (the new OS will fix all the exchange issues and include some minor updates)

http://mypre.com/nfl-mobile-live-coming-to-palm-pre-2009142156/

I heard the OS update will be around July 22

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'm free and clear on phones. Still using a 3 year old Motorola Razr. And I got my hands on one of these for a few minutes yesterday. Pretty awesome. But I hesitate going back into the Sprint fold. I mean, I HATE theat company. But this might do it.

This can be set with the all in one plan also, I presume? LOVE the NFLN app. That the shizzz.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'm free and clear on phones. Still using a 3 year old Motorola Razr. And I got my hands on one of these for a few minutes yesterday. Pretty awesome. But I hesitate going back into the Sprint fold. I mean, I HATE theat company. But this might do it.

This can be set with the all in one plan also, I presume? LOVE the NFLN app. That the shizzz.

I'm completely unaffiliated with Sprint Will. That said, they're ten times better than they were 5 years ago. Customer service is better, coverage is better, everything is better. I don't care personally what route you go, but talk to other Sprint customers before writing them off as the same retards they used to be. It's just not accurate anymore.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'm completely unaffiliated with Sprint Will. That said, they're ten times better than they were 5 years ago. Customer service is better, coverage is better, everything is better. I don't care personally what route you go, but talk to other Sprint customers before writing them off as the same retards they used to be. It's just not accurate anymore.

Okay... you're swaying me more and more.

[The Franchise]

Check this. I contacted Sprint to find out when my contract was up. And it expired in October of 2008. Cool beans....I can get a new phone at a discount right? Nope. For some God awful reason....I have to wait until October 2009 before I can get new customer pricing on a phone. WTF!?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Okay... you're swaying me more and more.

I'm pretty sure they've bumped their guarantee up to 30 days as well. So if you're unhappy, you can get all your money back and walk away unscathed.

I'll say this about the Pre. It's not the iphone. Not yet anyways. But as soon as some apps start dropping, I honestly think it will compete. Now, I haven't spent much time with an iphone, so I'm not as educated as others about this, but I'll tell you this, I LOVE the Pre's OS. It's phenomenal. But the iphone is the best phone on the market right now. That, I can't deny.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Check this. I contacted Sprint to find out when my contract was up. And it expired in October of 2008. Cool beans....I can get a new phone at a discount right? Nope. For some God awful reason....I have to wait until October 2009 before I can get new customer pricing on a phone. WTF!?

When was the last time you upgraded? That sounds like some bullshit to me.

[The Franchise]

When was the last time you upgraded? That sounds like some bullshit to me.

The last time I upgraded through them was over a year ago.

[Valiant]

The last time I upgraded through them was over a year ago.

Sounds about right, most companies are two years..

[The Franchise]

Sounds about right, most companies are two years..

Yeah but when I upgraded.....I never extended or resigned a contract. I upgraded because their phone took a complete shit and I refused to accept a refurbished phone. So they upgraded me to an Instinct....and I never renewed my contract. That's one thing I refused to do.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Sounds about right, most companies are two years..

Yeah but when I upgraded.....I never extended or resigned a contract. I upgraded because their phone took a complete shit and I refused to accept a refurbished phone. So they upgraded me to an Instinct....and I never renewed my contract. That's one thing I refused to do.

Not only that but Sprint has recently changed a policy that allows "Premier" account holders to upgrade yearly. Pest, if I was you I'd call Sprint and ask them why you're not Premier. Let them know you're unsatisfied with being a 2nd rate customer. If that doesn't wake them up, nothing will. Beware though, $11 hr. reps don't give a shit, nor should they. If a company isn't invested in an employee, how on earth could they expect the employee to be invested in the company? Get a supervisor.

[The Franchise]

Not only that but Sprint has recently changed a policy that allows "Premier" account holders to upgrade yearly. Pest, if I was you I'd call Sprint and ask them why you're not Premier. Let them know you're unsatisfied with being a 2nd rate customer. If that doesn't wake them up, nothing will. Beware though, $11 hr. reps don't give a shit, nor should they. If a company isn't invested in an employee, how on earth could they expect the employee to be invested in the company? Get a supervisor.

I'm already a Premier customer but he said that I'll still have to wait.

[Valiant]

I'm already a Premier customer but he said that I'll still have to wait.

Do not know anything about the premier thing, but most carriers when I sold phones had a every two year upgrade policy even if you did not renew your contract.. You could do it more, but you would not get the discount..

Of course whoever you might be talking to could be fucking with ya.. I would go talk to someone else or get a supervisor..

[The Franchise]

So I was at Best Buy the other day and I had some time to kill....so I walked over to the cell phone section and decided to see what the Pre was all about it. Unfortunately they didn't have it to where you could turn it on to play around with it.

From what I could tell....it feels kind of flimsy and the keyboard keys look smaller than the Centro's.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

So I was at Best Buy the other day and I had some time to kill....so I walked over to the cell phone section and decided to see what the Pre was all about it. Unfortunately they didn't have it to where you could turn it on to play around with it.

From what I could tell....it feels kind of flimsy and the keyboard keys look smaller than the Centro's.

I'm a tall, fat man and everyone complains about the keyboard on the Pre. I have long, fat fingers to go with my frame and it's not an issue at all for me. The phone absolutely looks, and feels cheap, but I've had mine since launch and I have had zero issues with it. Of course I'm incredibly careful with my phones and haven't dropped it, so take that for what it's worth. I do love the Pre though. I'm very glad I bought it. Oh, and my rebate arrived today. Woot!

[The Franchise]

I'm a tall, fat man and everyone complains about the keyboard on the Pre. I have long, fat fingers to go with my frame and it's not an issue at all for me. The phone absolutely looks, and feels cheap, but I've had mine since launch and I have had zero issues with it. Of course I'm incredibly careful with my phones and haven't dropped it, so take that for what it's worth. I do love the Pre though. I'm very glad I bought it. Oh, and my rebate arrived today. Woot!

Do you keep it in any kind of a case?

How long did it take to get your rebate?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Do you keep it in any kind of a case?

How long did it take to get your rebate?

It comes with a soft case, but no I don't use it. I should, but I'm so anal with it already I just never worry about it. I've never had a phone break, well I did once, but Sprint replaced it in store because I pay their horrendous price for insurance. I've never broken a phone though.

The Pre while it feels cheap, hasn't loosened up on me. I just don't have a bad thing to say about it, and that by itself is pretty remarkable IMO, because I can usually find something that drives me nuts with any phone.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Oh, and the rebate arrived today, I bought the phone at launch which I believe was the beginning of June, so around 6 weeks. About what I expected.

[The Franchise]

So the real question is....and I think I've already asked it.....

I have to be able to connect securely with my work e-mail server. Does the Pre do that?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

So the real question is....and I think I've already asked it.....

I have to be able to connect securely with my work e-mail server. Does the Pre do that?

I don't remember exactly how, from what I understand there are hoops to jump through. But remember, their programming software was leaked and there's a shit ton of home brew apps already, it's inevitible. I also ran across an app from Palm themselves, but I'd have to dive into it to know if it was easy.

[The Franchise]

I'll have to run it by our tech department. I'm not going to buy the phone if I can't hook it up to my work e-mail.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'll have to run it by our tech department. I'm not going to buy the phone if I can't hook it up to my work e-mail.

As great as I think the phone is, if it didn't do what I absolutely needed it to, I would've never bought it either. I'll dig into it some when I get home tonight and see if I can link it to my outlook at work.

[The Franchise]

As great as I think the phone is, if it didn't do what I absolutely needed it to, I would've never bought it either. I'll dig into it some when I get home tonight and see if I can link it to my outlook at work.

Cool....I appreciate it. Normally I wouldn't care....but my work gives me a stipend if I use my personal phone for business purposes. Hence why I have a Blackberry Curve.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Okay, so they have pocket mirror. Which will sync everything, but you have to be connected to a wifi connection in order to sync. Meaning your phone can't do it by itself. I'll look tonight for a homebrew app, and honestly SLAG is the guy I'd talk to about it. He's pretty hip to Sprint, and particularly the Pre.

[The Franchise]

Okay, so they have pocket mirror. Which will sync everything, but you have to be connected to a wifi connection in order to sync. Meaning your phone can't do it by itself. I'll look tonight for a homebrew app, and honestly SLAG is the guy I'd talk to about it. He's pretty hip to Sprint, and particularly the Pre.

Cool thanks. I'll send him a PM and ask him about it. I'd love to get the Pre but if can't do work e-mail....it's a deal breaker.

Then again I'd go with in iPhone but I can't justify paying almost $200 for all of that shit.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Cool thanks. I'll send him a PM and ask him about it. I'd love to get the Pre but if can't do work e-mail....it's a deal breaker.

Then again I'd go with in iPhone but I can't justify paying almost $200 for all of that shit.

I wouldn't pay for an iphone even if I couldn't get a Pre. I was just fine with my Instinct.

[AustinChief]

I'll have to run it by our tech department. I'm not going to buy the phone if I can't hook it up to my work e-mail.

If you run Exchange, it is fully supported as of the update yesterday.

http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/pre/p100eww/sprint/solutions/article/50607_en.html#11

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If you run Exchange, it is fully supported as of the update yesterday.

http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/pre/p100eww/sprint/solutions/article/50607_en.html#11

You got one didn't you? If so, what do you think of it? Personally, I'm in love but I'm no techie so I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on.

[AustinChief]

You got one didn't you? If so, what do you think of it? Personally, I'm in love but I'm no techie so I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on.

I really like it, I haven't had the time to root it yet and do custom development on it... but I will and I'll get back to you.Gonna try to make some ChiefsPlanet apps if I can.

So far I haven't had one thing to complain about.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I really like it, I haven't had the time to root it yet and do custom development on it... but I will and I'll get back to you.Gonna try to make some ChiefsPlanet apps if I can.

So far I haven't had one thing to complain about. The new OS update kicks ass and the NFL Mobile app is gonna rule during the season.
http://www.appscout.com/2009/07/nfl_mobile_live_coming_to_palm.php

:clap: I'm stoked man. I love the phone, and would love some CP apps.

[SLAG]

If you run Exchange, it is fully supported as of the update yesterday.

http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/pre/p100eww/sprint/solutions/article/50607_en.html#11


This!

webos 1.1 is noticeably faster - my tethering app and ssh client [ dropbear] are all working well

[The Franchise]

This!

webos 1.1 is noticeably faster - my tethering app and ssh client [ dropbear] are all working well

The real question is.......can you get me a discount? LMAO

[SLAG]

The real question is.......can you get me a discount? LMAO

Well it depends..

Who is your mobile provider now..
if its sprint are you out of contract? - Also if its sprint with plan are you on?

[The Franchise]

Well it depends..

Who is your mobile provider now..
if its sprint are you out of contract? - Also if its sprint with plan are you on?

I'm currently with Sprint. My contract was up in October of 2008...but according to a rep on the phone...I can't get new customer pricing until October 2009.

My wife and I have the Everything Family Plan.....1500 minutes.....both have insurance and I have the Blackberry Server thing for an extra $20 a month.

[SLAG]

I'm currently with Sprint. My contract was up in October of 2008...but according to a rep on the phone...I can't get new customer pricing until October 2009.

My wife and I have the Everything Family Plan.....1500 minutes.....both have insurance and I have the Blackberry Server thing for an extra $20 a month.

Here is my best take of your situation:

First: Find out exactly what type of email setup you have with your work if it is a Secure Exchange server then their should be no problems with the Palm Pre.

I am also assuming you have the Everything Data Family Plan for $129

If you switch - I am not 100% sure that you need to be paying $20 extra/ month for corporate email - if it is an exchange server - so dont let them add that to you

You would probably have the best luck with telesales - call them up .. tell them you have been a sprint customer for how ever long.. you saw the ad for this palm pre and want to get it - and that you are willing to sign a new two year contract today for the two year price on the palm pre They will probably put you on hold for a bit - and get you approved for the deal - Sprint wants to move these things and bad....

Then let the nice rep that helped you out on the phone get the commission and you order the phone from them - they overnight it to you.

Sprint offers up to 27% discount on your monthly bill if you work for the right company:

This is a chart that shows what plans are compatible with the palm pre:
http://insidesprintnow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/preplan2.png?w=505&h=487


I had two $30 SERO plans that I switched to the Everything 1500 Family Plan for this phone - I had a 1 year discount on my wife's line - I called up to telesales and they approved me for the two year price- but would not charge the phone to my account- but because I was using the upgrade from my wifes line and then adding it to my line - it took awhile for it to all work out in the system - So the Rep at the sprint store actually hand delivered the phone after everything was taken care of to me at my office - I was quite impressed with the customer service I received from the Reps at the Sprint Studio.

I hope I didn't miss any thing - let me know if you have any other questions.'
I sware - I dont work for sprint.... but I do root for the Hometown teams

[The Franchise]

Whats the "right company"?

[SLAG]

Whats the "right company"?

Such Companies such as CitiGroup / Motorola / UPS all have discounts that I am aware of.

I think the 10% is easy to get if you are a member of any credit union.

here is some additional Information on it:

http://www.sprintgurus.com/forum/tutorials/20-how-get-any-companys-evp-employee-discount.html

[The Franchise]

Oh....see I work for County Government in California.

[The Franchise]

Do I just have to mention that I should get the credit union discount?

[SLAG]

Do I just have to mention that I should get the credit union discount?

Yes
Or -
you could just as easily mention that you worked for such a company that gets a 27% discount

[The Franchise]

Damn...I never realized just how easy it is to get a 27% discount on your account.

[The Franchise]

Yes
Or -
you could just as easily mention that you worked for such a company that gets a 27% discount

I was reading that in the thread that you sent me.

I'm trying to get a hold of my IT people to find out what kind of e-mail server we use.

[The Franchise]

So I talked to my IT...and he said that along as it uses Directpush and Exchange Active Sync....it should work.

[SLAG]

So I talked to my IT...and he said that along as it uses Directpush and Exchange Active Sync....it should work.

Ok sounds like the pre will work perfectly then

I get emails faster on my phone than I do in my computer inbox...

[The Franchise]

Question....I tried the Citigroup discount trick...and the lady said that with out a work e-mail address....I couldn't get the discount.

[The Franchise]

Checked with Sprint and they said that they use Exchange Active Sync but not directpush. WTF

[The Franchise]

Question....I tried the Citigroup discount trick...and the lady said that with out a work e-mail address....I couldn't get the discount.

Nevermind....just got it work.

[Herzig]

I just picked up 2 Palm Pre's thru the new Sero Plan. My wife and I share 1600 mins with unlimited data and text for $109 a month.

Or you can get the 500 min everything data for $59. The Pre's are $199 with a new line of service. I upgraded from my $30 SERO plan which I hated to do, but I'm not paying too much more since my wife had the $50 SERO plan.

http://www.cellfanatic.com/2008/07/24/sprint-sero-plans-now-sprint-everything-plus-faq

[Herzig]

http://delivery.sprint.com/m/p/sprint/epc/epclanding.asp

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yes
Or -
you could just as easily mention that you worked for such a company that gets a 27% discount

Damn...I never realized just how easy it is to get a 27% discount on your account.

Shit, I had no clue at all about it and the rep who signed me up told me I worked for Citigroup. I said no, no I don't. He looked at me, raised one eyebrow and said "Yes. Yes you do. Enjoy your 27% monthly discount." I almost made my wife blow him. I was that happy.

[SLAG]

Checked with Sprint and they said that they use Exchange Active Sync but not directpush. WTF

Don't let them discourage you...

Directpush is a serverside function and has noting to do with sprints services
You will be fine

[AustinChief]

Don't let them discourage you...

Directpush is a serverside function and has noting to do with sprints services
You will be fine

Exactly.

[CoMoChief]

No matter how cool the phone is, if the keyboard is too small for my fingers, I will not get it.

I have the samsung Rant and I'm perfectly happy with it.

[morphius]

No matter how cool the phone is, if the keyboard is too small for my fingers, I will not get it.

I have the samsung Rant and I'm perfectly happy with it.
Yet the admitted fat fingered flopnuts has no problem with the keys... I think like anything its just what you are used to and with about 15 minutes of trying you can get used to any of the keyboards out there.

[jiveturkey]

I like this talk about the discounts on plans. I'll have to give that a try when I jump.

[Herzig]

Absolutely love mine so far

[The Franchise]

I'm going to run by a Sprint store today to play around with one. I'm assuming that I'll love it because I absolutely loved my Palm Treo.....but then it took a shit on me.

[SLAG]

I'm going to run by a Sprint store today to play around with one. I'm assuming that I'll love it because I absolutely loved my Palm Treo.....but then it took a shit on me.

careful

it can be additive - once I stared playing with one i just HAD to have one

[The Franchise]

careful

it can be additive - once I stared playing with one i just HAD to have one

Well it's probably going to be about a month to a month and a half before I actually break down and get one. I've switched phones so damn much over the last 3 years.....that I can't afford to keep switching. :D So I'm actually going to think this through before I get one.

So what accessories are a must for this thing before I get one?

[SLAG]

Well it's probably going to be about a month to a month and a half before I actually break down and get one. I've switched phones so damn much over the last 3 years.....that I can't afford to keep switching. :D So I'm actually going to think this through before I get one.

So what accessories are a must for this thing before I get one?

I would Recommend the Touchstone wireless charger - and a car charger - a good screen protector might be a good thing too.. I just noticed a nice little nik in mine this morning :-(

[The Franchise]

They don't have a Touchstone for the car yet....do they?

[SLAG]

They don't have a Touchstone for the car yet....do they?

Nope not yet
I hope they do!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I don't see why you couldn't use your touchstone in the car. The way it's set up you just plug the usb end into the touchstone and you could probably stick it right on the dash. I'll have to try it and see if it works.

[The Franchise]

I wonder if I call in....if they'll let me charge the phone to my account.

[The Franchise]

So this is weird. I asked a rep how long I've been with Sprint and she said since Feb. 2008. I know damn well that I've been with them WAY longer than that.

[Herzig]

I would Recommend the Touchstone wireless charger - and a car charger - a good screen protector might be a good thing too.. I just noticed a nice little nik in mine this morning :-(

I looked at the Touchstone and it is cool, but not technically wireless. I couldn't spend $70 on one or even $50 for one on Ebay.

Here's what I've bought so far:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320399942926&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350221655391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT


And this when I use the GPS Navigation.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250460455423&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[Herzig]

Also...did any of you see the Best Buy misprint where they were selling the Pre for $99...some people out there got some cheap Pre's!

[SLAG]

I looked at the Touchstone and it is cool, but not technically wireless. I couldn't spend $70 on one or even $50 for one on Ebay.

Here's what I've bought so far:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320399942926&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350221655391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT


And this when I use the GPS Navigation.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250460455423&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

My wife at the March of Dimes had gotten a 50% any sprint accessory coupon [excluding bluetooth] - So I took it to the sprint store- they did not want to honor it at first - but I insisted and they called the owner of the store [since it was not a corp. store] and he said Take it.

So I got the accessory kit - back and touchstone for $35- now that is a reasonable price-

The phone should have shipped with the touchstone back and then they sell the base for $40 and that would have been a better deal and I bet they would have sold even more of them.

[Herzig]

My wife at the March of Dimes had gotten a 50% any sprint accessory coupon [excluding bluetooth] - So I took it to the sprint store- they did not want to honor it at first - but I insisted and they called the owner of the store [since it was not a corp. store] and he said Take it.

So I got the accessory kit - back and touchstone for $35- now that is a reasonable price-

The phone should have shipped with the touchstone back and then they sell the base for $40 and that would have been a better deal and I bet they would have sold even more of them.

That's great deal and it is a very cool device. I watched several youtube videos to check it out before deciding to wait on it. I just couldn't spend $70-$50 for a charger. The extended battery might be in my future tho!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

That's great deal and it is a very cool device. I watched several youtube videos to check it out before deciding to wait on it. I just couldn't spend $70-$50 for a charger. The extended battery might be in my future tho!

My local Sprint store offered me one for $50 and I snagged it at that rate. But I wouldn't have spent $70 on it. I'm going to buy the extended battery for sure, probably this weekend.

[The Franchise]

My local Sprint store offered me one for $50 and I snagged it at that rate. But I wouldn't have spent $70 on it. I'm going to buy the extended battery for sure, probably this weekend.

How much is the extended battery....and how much extra juice does it give?

[The Franchise]

Alright...so I went to a Sprint store on my lunch...and played around with the Pre for about 15 minutes.

I'm in love....and I want one.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

How much is the extended battery....and how much extra juice does it give?

I have no idea. My understanding is battery life extends by something like 25%.

Alright...so I went to a Sprint store on my lunch...and played around with the Pre for about 15 minutes.

I'm in love....and I want one.

LMAO No surprise there. The OS is just a beautiful, beautiful thing.

[The Franchise]

I have no idea. My understanding is battery life extends by something like 25%.


LMAO No surprise there. The OS is just a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Alright cool. I might look at getting one after awhile. How has your original battery life been? I know that you were having problems in the beginning.

No fucking lie. The resolution on that thing was fucking amazing. Even the god damn camera was awesome. Palm has a winner on their hands with this one. I was a little skeptical in the beginning...but after playing with one and being reassured by the sales guy that it would hook up with my work e-mail.....I'll be buying one.

[The Franchise]

Another question for the Sprint Gurus here.

My wife was having problems with her phone before.....and they sent out a refurbished one....after telling me that she would get a new one. I called in and complained....and got a brand new one sent out. Received that one in the mail and called to activate it. Sprint required that we send her original broken phone back through the mail or else we would be charged $200. We sent it back in and never heard anything else. I still have the refurbished phone....that was never activated.

So my question.....would this phone be able to be activated or would Sprint be able to track it and see that it was sent out and never received back? Would I be able to sell it?

[Herzig]

Here's the extended life battery for the Pre for available for pre order. It adds about 4 mm of width to the Pre and about doubles the battery life.

http://store.precentral.net/seidio-innocell-2600mah-extended-battery/8A37A5770.htm

This other one adds no width and adds about 17% battery life
http://store.precentral.net/seidio-innocell-1350-extended-battery/8A37A5644.htm

I can't decide if it is the Pre or me using the Pre so much because it is awesome that uses so much battery life. I've turned off the GPS but can figure out how to turn off the email notifications. Any help?

[SLAG]

Another question for the Sprint Gurus here.

My wife was having problems with her phone before.....and they sent out a refurbished one....after telling me that she would get a new one. I called in and complained....and got a brand new one sent out. Received that one in the mail and called to activate it. Sprint required that we send her original broken phone back through the mail or else we would be charged $200. We sent it back in and never heard anything else. I still have the refurbished phone....that was never activated.

So my question.....would this phone be able to be activated or would Sprint be able to track it and see that it was sent out and never received back? Would I be able to sell it?

I would say call up to Sprint Customer Care [*2 from your sprint cell] and just tell them you need to check to see if an ESN is clean

Give them the ESN from the phone and see if its clean

If so- you are free to activate or sell

[SLAG]

Here's the extended life battery for the Pre for available for pre order. It adds about 4 mm of width to the Pre and about doubles the battery life.

http://store.precentral.net/seidio-innocell-2600mah-extended-battery/8A37A5770.htm

This other one adds no width and adds about 17% battery life
http://store.precentral.net/seidio-innocell-1350-extended-battery/8A37A5644.htm

I can't decide if it is the Pre or me using the Pre so much because it is awesome that uses so much battery life. I've turned off the GPS but can figure out how to turn off the email notifications. Any help?

How long have you had your pre?

It seems to me that the longer I have the pre [with the stock battery] the longer the battery seems to last

The battery likes frequent charges there is no memory effect with these batteries

I am getting more than a full day out of it and I use it ALOT-GPS and WiFi are all all the time.

In fact if you are in a poor signal area and do not have EVDO but WIFI is available you would get better battery life with wifi on - 1xrtt eats your battery like its nothin

[The Franchise]

I would say call up to Sprint Customer Care [*2 from your sprint cell] and just tell them you need to check to see if an ESN is clean

Give them the ESN from the phone and see if its clean

If so- you are free to activate or sell

Cool...hopefully it's clean and I can sell it. With the mail in rebate and selling my Blackberry Curve and Palm Treo......I could almost pay for the Pre without any money out of my pocket.

[The Franchise]

So are there any MUST HAVE accessories when I get this?

When I call telesales and order it...I'm going to see if they have a discount on any accessories. So I want to know what I need before hand.

[Herzig]

How long have you had your pre?

It seems to me that the longer I have the pre [with the stock battery] the longer the battery seems to last

The battery likes frequent charges there is no memory effect with these batteries

I am getting more than a full day out of it and I use it ALOT-GPS and WiFi are all all the time.

In fact if you are in a poor signal area and do not have EVDO but WIFI is available you would get better battery life with wifi on - 1xrtt eats your battery like its nothin

I've had the Pre since Saturday afternoon....so about 4 days now. I've had to charge it about 1 to 2 times a day. I have great coverage in Northwest Arkansas. I turned the wifi off, but may turn that back on. THanks for the advice

[SLAG]

I've had the Pre since Saturday afternoon....so about 4 days now. I've had to charge it about 1 to 2 times a day. I have great coverage in Northwest Arkansas. I turned the wifi off, but may turn that back on. THanks for the advice

I would say its taken 2-3weeks before I really noticed huge strides in batter performance

the first week or so was the worst and the battery was crap

but the more I use it.. the more I charge it.. the longer it lasts

Good Luck
:thumb:

[Herzig]

I don't know how to estimate my usage, but I play with it all the time. I feel like go chiefs! Lol...

[Herzig]

I would say its taken 2-3weeks before I really noticed huge strides in batter performance

the first week or so was the worst and the battery was crap

but the more I use it.. the more I charge it.. the longer it lasts

Good Luck
:thumb:

Thanks! That's reassuring!

[The Franchise]

Alright.....one more question before I end up buying this damn thing.

Has the whole 8gb of internal memory come into play for anyone? Is it just enough or not enough?

[Herzig]

Alright.....one more question before I end up buying this damn thing.

Has the whole 8gb of internal memory come into play for anyone? Is it just enough or not enough?

Not for me...I think this would only be a problem if I watched movies on it or had a ton of MP3's loaded on it....don't know why I'd want to do that with no surround sound and Pandora tho..

[Herzig]

Useful battery tips for the Pre...

http://blog.treonauts.com/2009/06/palm-pre-battery-life-tips.html

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Alright.....one more question before I end up buying this damn thing.

Has the whole 8gb of internal memory come into play for anyone? Is it just enough or not enough?

I've got about 350 songs downloaded on my phone. I have some bluetooth headphones and use it at the gym every morning. I still have over 6gb of space available even with everything else I have on the phone as well. I think you'll be okay as long as you're not chronicling your Disney collection on there. :)

[SLAG]

Alright.....one more question before I end up buying this damn thing.

Has the whole 8gb of internal memory come into play for anyone? Is it just enough or not enough?

I have an 8GB ipod touch

As well as my pre - I have neither filled - in fact I dont have any music on my pre at all - Maybe thats something to do tonight...

[The Franchise]

Alright....I think today is the day that I take the plunge and get one.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Alright....I think today is the day that I take the plunge and get one.

Did you get them to allow you to upgrade?

[The Franchise]

Did you get them to allow you to upgrade?

I spoke with a girl over the Sprint chat thing....and basically I can get it for $299.99 with a mail in rebate of $100....plus they'll charge it to my account.

She tried to go back and figure out why it said I had to wait until October 2009 to get new customer pricing...but she couldn't find anything. So she noted on the account to give me new customer pricing when I call in.

Once I get the Pre....I'm going to sell my Blackberry Curve, a refurbished Palm Centro and probably my old Palm Treo. I figure if I can get $200-$250 for all three of those...I'll be happy.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I spoke with a girl over the Sprint chat thing....and basically I can get it for $299.99 with a mail in rebate of $100....plus they'll charge it to my account.

She tried to go back and figure out why it said I had to wait until October 2009 to get new customer pricing...but she couldn't find anything. So she noted on the account to give me new customer pricing when I call in.

Once I get the Pre....I'm going to sell my Blackberry Curve, a refurbished Palm Centro and probably my old Palm Treo. I figure if I can get $200-$250 for all three of those...I'll be happy.

I got a full discount and it was 299 plus a hundred dollar rebate. That's a good price for this phone, and I rarely say that.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

P.S - I found someone to pay me $175 for my old Instinct. That was great.

[The Franchise]

I got a full discount and it was 299 plus a hundred dollar rebate. That's a good price for this phone, and I rarely say that.

Yeah.....after playing around with it for 15 minutes....I can see how it's worth it. I'm hoping this is the last phone for awhile. I've had 4 in the last 2 years.

P.S - I found someone to pay me $175 for my old Instinct. That was great.

I sold mine to a friend for $125. He still loves the thing. In fact I'd probably still have it if I didn't have to have my phone sync up to my work e-mail.

[The Franchise]

I'm on the phone right now.....getting my new Palm Pre.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'm on the phone right now.....getting my new Palm Pre.

Welcome to the club. I've had as many phones as you over the last couple of years. I just haven't been able to find what I was looking for. From the moto, to a blackberry, to the Instinct, and now the Pre.

Regardless of what they come out with from here, I'll be good for awhile. I definitely won't need to run out and buy the latest technology. This phone does what I need it to do, and it does what I want it to do as well. It's perfect for me. And as more and more apps roll out for this thing, it's going to be a big hit.

[The Franchise]

I'll have it in 2-5 days.

Interesting.....I had to let them know again that there should be no reason why I wouldn't get the new customer pricing until October 2009.

Then after they tacked on shipping, tax and everything......that bitch came up to $385.

Another interesting note....apparently when I call to activate the phone...I can just tell the rep that I'd like to apply the mail in rebate to my account and they'll credit it $100 and then all I have to do is mail in the rebate form. I'd never heard of that before.

[Herzig]

Pretty cool blog...

http://blog.treonauts.com/2009/07/top-10-palm-pre-accessories.html

http://blog.treonauts.com/2009/07/top-20-palm-pre-feature-requests.html
(http://blog.treonauts.com/2009/07/top-10-palm-pre-accessories.html)

[The Franchise]

Shipped yesterday.....I should be getting it tomorrow.

FWIW....I've already sold the refurbished Palm Centro I had for $75.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Shipped yesterday.....I should be getting it tomorrow.

FWIW....I've already sold the refurbished Palm Centro I had for $75.

:clap: Sweet!

[The Franchise]

Alright...so I gotta ask this before I even get it in the mail.

List out some must have Apps that I need to go out and download right away.

[morphius]

Alright...so I gotta ask this before I even get it in the mail.

List out some must have Apps that I need to go out and download right away.
Haven't you been watching the commercials, the iphone invented apps for smart phones and nobody else has them.

morphius
can't get the pre so will comment with sarcasm.

[SLAG]

Alright...so I gotta ask this before I even get it in the mail.

List out some must have Apps that I need to go out and download right away.

The only Must have APP i got was the "My Tether App" - but it requires Rooting - unless you want to pay $10

I enjoy Twee for my twitter client as well - but again requires Rooting.

um..
Evernote is cool you should sign up at www.evernote.com

Pandora and Accuweather and the AP news app is cool too there is a craigslist app but I dont use it much

[The Franchise]

What is rooting?

[SLAG]

What is rooting?

http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Using_Novaterm

http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page will be helpful to you

as well as:

http://forums.precentral.net

[Herzig]

The only Must have APP i got was the "My Tether App" - but it requires Rooting - unless you want to pay $10

I enjoy Twee for my twitter client as well - but again requires Rooting.

um..
Evernote is cool you should sign up at www.evernote.com (http://www.evernote.com)

Pandora and Accuweather and the AP news app is cool too there is a craigslist app but I dont use it much

I would second these apps and add The Sporting News Baseball, Infopedia(wikipedia mobile), Express Stocks.

Pandora is really a great app.

Also, the Where app is great for comparing gas prices near you.

[epitome1170]

So now that I am finally able to get the Pre (I am on an employee account so you have to wait a time period before you can get one.), I am thinking about switching from my BB Pearl to the Pre. I know there are a lot of apps for it, but is there an app. that I need to synchronize it as efficiently as my BB does for my calender and contacts? Or is the built in version sufficient?

[The Franchise]

I've had mine activated since Saturday night....and I'm in love.

[SLAG]

So now that I am finally able to get the Pre (I am on an employee account so you have to wait a time period before you can get one.), I am thinking about switching from my BB Pearl to the Pre. I know there are a lot of apps for it, but is there an app. that I need to synchronize it as efficiently as my BB does for my calender and contacts? Or is the built in version sufficient?

It will sync contacts / calendar with Exchange/ Google / Facebook

VERY VERY well - more than sufficient