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Donger
06-30-2009, 11:07 AM
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090629-uranium-moon.html

Uranium exists on the moon, according to new data from a Japanese spacecraft.

The findings are the first conclusive evidence for the presence of the radioactive element in lunar dirt, the researchers said. They announced the discovery recently at the 40th Lunar and Planetary Conference and at the Proceedings of the International Workshop Advances in Cosmic Ray Science.

The revelation suggests that nuclear power plants could be built on the moon, or even that Earth's satellite could serve as a mining source for uranium needed back home.

The Japanese Kaguya spacecraft, which was launched in 2007, detected uranium with a gamma-ray spectrometer. Scientists are using the instrument to create maps of the moon's surface composition, showing the presence of thorium, potassium, oxygen, magnesium, silicon, calcium, titanium and iron.

"We've already gotten uranium results, which have never been reported before," said Robert Reedy, a senior scientist at the Tucson-based Planetary Science Institute, and a member of the Kaguya science team. "We're getting more new elements and refining and confirming results found on the old maps."

The findings could help decide where to build future lunar colonies, since manned outposts will need energy, and could potentially derive it from nuclear power plants.

Furthermore, since uranium supplies on Earth are scarce, mining uranium on the moon to satisfy our energy needs at home could prove lucrative.

Kaguya, officially named SELENE ("Selenological and Engineering Explorer"), crashed into the lunar surface at the end of its mission on June 10.

Frazod
06-30-2009, 11:08 AM
Well, this should get the ol' moon race fired up again.

FAX
06-30-2009, 11:11 AM
Well, this should get the ol' moon race fired up again.

Yep.

That's not Uranium. That's Ouranium.

FAX

Buck
06-30-2009, 11:17 AM
If Bush were president we would have already claimed it.

Kylo Ren
06-30-2009, 11:20 AM
If Bush were president we would have already claimed it. I agree totally. Obama is a total moron.

JD10367
06-30-2009, 11:22 AM
That's nothing, they found silicon in Uranus. :rimshot:

jAZ
06-30-2009, 11:28 AM
Yep.

That's not Uranium. That's Ouranium.

FAX

If Bush were president we would have already claimed it.

http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-buy-land-on-the-moon

Introduction
Whether you're planning on opening a cozy bed and breakfast overlooking Armstrong Crater, or just hanging an amusing artifact on the wall, there are important considerations for the would-be lunar land baron. Several organizations advertise and sell deeds to lunar land by the acre. Unfortunately, a deed to Moon land may not be all that it seems.

Options
There are three main organizations selling Moon land, each with different legal claims and property options.

The Lunar Embassy
The Lunar Embassy was established in 1980 when Nevada resident Dennis Hope "found a loophole" in the UN's International Space Treaty, allowing him to claim ownership to the Moon (along with the rest of the solar system, except Earth) and declare himself Head Cheese. He has since made over $9 million selling Moon land by the acre.
Cost: $22.49 per acre.

What You Get:
If you stake a claim through Lunar Embassy, you get a parchment-like deed to one acre of Moon land (presumably chosen by the Embassy), a Lunar Map, the Lunar Constitution and Bill of Rights and a copy of a short story entitled, "You Own the What?"

Lunar International
Founded in 1996, Lunar International dedicates itself towards allowing regular citizens to own property on the moon. The company sells plots of moon property from one to five acres in a dozen different lunar regions, from the Sea of Tranquility to the Ocean of Storms.

Cost: $18.75 to $37.50 per acre, depending on location.

What You Get: Each property package sold by Lunar International includes a personalized deed certificate, information about the lunar region where the property is located, a satellite photograph of the area and geographic coordinates to help purchasers find their lunar property through a telescope. Buyers also receive a free membership in the Society for Lunar Exploration and Development (SLED), a citizen advocacy group concerned with the privatized ownership and development of lunar real estate.

The Lunar Republic
Founded in 1999, the Lunar Republic Society is dedicated to establishing a human presence on the Moon through private enterprise. Via its sales affiliate, the Lunar Registry (The Earth's Leading Lunar Real Estate Agency), the Republic sells a variety of Moon plots, by the acre.
Cost: $18.95 to $37.50 per acre.
What You Get: Lunar Registry is currently offering "select" property on the Sea of Vapors for only 18.95 per acre and in the Lunar Alps for 31.25. Note that there is no sea (or vapor) in the Sea of Vapors and no snow on the Lunar Alps. Your deed is engraved on parchment-like paper, plus you get a satellite photograph of your property, as well as a brochure detailing attractions in the area. There is a $10 shipping and handling fee.


Validity

Companies claiming to sell Moon land have engaged in legal battles and competing propaganda campaigns. Since they do not recognize each other's claims, it is conceivable that they are actually selling overlapping properties, a state of affairs that could lead to nasty neighborhood disputes on the Moon. Leaving aside that issue, however, let's examine the more basic question of whether or not it is legal to own, or sell, Moon land.
According to the 1967 Outer Space Treaty—officially called the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies—the Moon is the "province of all mankind."

Article II states: Outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.

Lunar Embassy takes advantage of this perceived loophole in the treaty: The Moon cannot be claimed by nations, but the treaty says nothing about individuals and corporations.

Head Cheese Dennis Hope has gotten rich selling Moon land, but his claim has been dismissed by legal analysts.

Lunar Republic appears to base its claims on an argument against the legitimacy of the UN as a governing body. The company is planning for private exploration and settlement of the Moon, with the goal of eventually establishing a democratically elected Moon government. Lunar Registry also claims compliance with the Lunar Settlement Initiative (a proposal which has not been ratified by any governing body).

For a detailed analysis of space property rights, read Homesteading The High Frontier.

Why Buy Moon Land? Because of the unique nature of Moon real estate, as well as its contested legitimacy, it's very important to examine your motives and intentions before making a purchase.

Development.
Like a lot of real estate investors, you may want to purchase Moon land with the goal of development and rental.

Even assuming that claims to Moon land are legal, this is no guarantee that they will also be profitable for residential use.

The Moon contains nine billion acres. Even though half of it is on the less desirable "dark side," it is unlikely that the there will be a lunar real estate crunch within our lifetimes.

The Moon has no atmosphere, but lots of radiation. Barring some mind-bending advance in nanotechnology, the Moon is likely to remain inhospitable to terrestrial life, although certain private organizations have begun experimenting with the idea of terra-forming or creating living, earth-like environments, on the Moon.

Mining.
It is possible, maybe even probable, that humans will establish permanent Moon bases in the future. It has been speculated that in order to survive, such bases would need to tap the Moon's resources.

Moon soil, known as regolith, is rich in oxygen, titanium, aluminum, silicon and iron, all of which would be valuable materials for the development of a Moon base.

Keep in mind, however, that if sales continue at the current pace, there will remain plenty of unclaimed Moon land for potential mining, hundreds of years into the future. Your acre may not be in such high demand.

Impress Your Friends.
The most immediate (and perhaps only) satisfaction you will get from owning a deed to Moon land is its novelty value.

If you do decide to purchase Moon land, display your deed proudly along with all other marks of your distinction—such as your deed to a 1 square-inch ranch along Route 66 and your certificate of authenticity as an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church.

PhillyChiefFan
06-30-2009, 11:29 AM
I agree totally. Obama is a total moron.

Um...excuse me, but it's spelled moran :D

wild1
06-30-2009, 11:38 AM
Too bad we can't use this source of energy, because it's too clean and efficient.

Radar Chief
06-30-2009, 11:38 AM
So THATS where Sadam put it. :doh!:

kepp
06-30-2009, 11:49 AM
So THATS where Sadam put it. :doh!:

ROFL

Demonpenz
06-30-2009, 12:01 PM
i hope you like nacho's because that moon is NOTCHYOURZ

Mr. Krab
06-30-2009, 12:11 PM
An energy source for a permanent moon base? After the uranium expires we can just launch that shit into the sun. :)

Mr. Krab
06-30-2009, 12:21 PM
I'm surprised they aren't using some kind of big Solar energy setup to run a base on the moon already.

Stewie
06-30-2009, 12:25 PM
Radar has picked up Kim Jong-il on radar... in a cape.

Reaper16
06-30-2009, 12:34 PM
You think we don't know? We've probably been harvesting that ish for years.

Donger
06-30-2009, 12:37 PM
I can't even begin to imagine the issues that would need to be overcome in order to build a nuclear reactor on the Moon. Well, I can actually, but they are tremendously complicated.

Tribal Warfare
06-30-2009, 12:39 PM
Uranium Found on the Moon

Time to blow shit up!

Mr. Krab
06-30-2009, 12:39 PM
I can't even begin to imagine the issues that would need to be overcome in order to build a nuclear reactor on the Moon. Well, I can actually, but they are tremendously complicated.Getting all the parts and pieces for a base and reactor would be a pain in the butt, i imagine.

Donger
06-30-2009, 12:42 PM
Getting all the parts and pieces for a base and reactor would be a pain in the butt, i imagine.

Well, yes. Not to mention having to kill all the Greenpeace - Moon Battalion idiots first.

FAX
06-30-2009, 12:43 PM
We don't need a nuclear reactor. We just need moon vehicles and moon air conditioners and moon light bulbs and stuff that run on Ouranium. And ray guns. We need ray guns so we can shoot Chinese little marshmallow Easter birds when they come messing around.

FAX

Bowser
06-30-2009, 01:04 PM
We just picked up the radiation from the powerplants used by the aliens that live there and told us to never come back.

InChiefsHeaven
06-30-2009, 01:17 PM
So THATS where Sadam put it. :doh!:

That sneaky bastard!! Whoud'a thought of looking there, seriously...:)

ThaVirus
06-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Alright, I didn't read the whole article... But who the hell cares ? What good does this do ?

Donger
06-30-2009, 01:27 PM
Alright, I didn't read the whole article... But who the hell cares ? What good does this do ?

Uranium make stuff go.

BigChiefFan
06-30-2009, 01:29 PM
Maybe NASA can pay a hefty carbon tax on it.

CrazyPhuD
06-30-2009, 01:45 PM
Sweet now we need to get up there and build reactors to power the US. We can use microwave transmitters to send the power back to earth. If we occasionally misalign the transmitters so they fry Venezuela. Oh well oops....our bad.

Otter
06-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Sweet now we need to get up there and build reactors to power the US. We can use microwave transmitters to send the power back to earth. If we occasionally misalign the transmitters so they fry Venezuela. Oh well oops....our bad.

Something tells me if they have anything planned it's to bring it back.

Just Passin' By
06-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Well, yes. Not to mention having to kill all the Greenpeace - Moon Battalion idiots first.

So it's a win/win situation, then.

Bowser
06-30-2009, 03:40 PM
Does Uranium come from Uranus?



Ha! It just never gets old....

Just Passin' By
06-30-2009, 03:45 PM
By the way, I forgot to ask earlier:

Did they find any Amazon women?

Pioli Zombie
06-30-2009, 03:48 PM
Shit, they'll be a Home Depot, a McDonalds, a Starbucks, a Walmart, and a TGIF there by the weekend.
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DRU
06-30-2009, 03:52 PM
Yep.

That's not Uranium. That's Ouranium.

FAX

LOL

BigMeatballDave
06-30-2009, 06:31 PM
Heh, imagine if the Moons core was a sea of crude oil...

FAX
06-30-2009, 07:49 PM
Heh, imagine if the Moons core was a sea of crude oil...

Or taco sauce!!!

You have reminded me of an interesting historical thingy, Mr. BigChiefDave.

And this is it ... the famous rocket scientist Nazi guy Wernher von Braun was once interviewed by Time Magazine. In that interview, he stated that the neutral point of gravitational attraction between the Earth and the Moon was some 43,000 to 45,000 miles from the surface of the Moon.

Well, it just so happens that, if von Braun is correct and you run the calculations, that would mean that the Moon is much more massive than we have been led to believe and has a much higher gravitational pull than the 1/6 g that's reported in high school text books.

Interestingly, about 2 weeks after making this statement to Time, von Braun resigned all his positions at NASA and took a consultancy job with Fairchild Industries in Atlanta (I think). It is commonly believed that he was forced to resign on account of this statement to Time.

Why is this important? Because, if true, it means that NASA is lying to us about the Moon's density, mass, and gravitational pull. This could be because there is stuff (like Ouranium) on the Moon that they didn't want us to know about or it could be that they were also lying about the propulsion system used by the LEM when it blasted off the Moon. In other words, NASA may have other means of propulsion at their disposal which they don't want us to know about ... like anti-gravity, for instance. Spooky, huh?

FAX

dtebbe
06-30-2009, 11:00 PM
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MeaTy The Pimp
07-01-2009, 04:25 AM
Shit, they'll be a Home Depot, a McDonalds, a Starbucks, a Walmart, and a TGIF there by the weekend.
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Don't forget about the rundown strip mall with a Check Advance, and a pawn shop.

LaChapelle
07-01-2009, 05:00 AM
If a huge meteor hit the moon and knocked it out of the sky, would we all die?

InChiefsHeaven
07-01-2009, 05:53 AM
If a huge meteor hit the moon and knocked it out of the sky, would we all die?

Pretty sure it would fuck us up pretty good, with the tides and all, not to mention when would all the crazy people know when to come out? With no moon, they'd be out all the damn time, and what kind of a mess would that be??

...don't even THINK it LaChapelle...don't even think it...

tiptap
07-01-2009, 06:56 AM
Uranium can be found just about everywhere in the crust of the Earth. Thorium and the other elements that are radioactive as well. But the question becomes if the Uranium concentration is high enough to warrant extraction. You know a vein of Uranium. Most of the Uranium on earth is at too small of concentration to allow extraction. I think we need to wait to see if there are places in which Uranium is concentrated enough to allow extraction.

Skip Towne
07-01-2009, 07:09 AM
Do we have uranium mines on earth? Where are they?

J Diddy
07-01-2009, 07:12 AM
Do we have uranium mines on earth? Where are they?


Here's a whole list of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_uranium_mines

Skip Towne
07-01-2009, 07:17 AM
Here's a whole list of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_uranium_mines

Thanks

HonestChieffan
07-01-2009, 08:14 AM
Lunar Warming. The sequel to crisis creation.

Jethopper
07-01-2009, 09:53 AM
http://www.xtra.ca/blog/national/image.axd?picture=palinscience.jpg

BigMeatballDave
07-01-2009, 10:22 AM
http://www.xtra.ca/blog/national/image.axd?picture=palinscience.jpg
ROFL

FAX
07-01-2009, 10:33 AM
Do we have uranium mines on earth? Where are they?

I had cousins in Grand Junction who were Ouranium miners, Mr. Skip Towne, so I know there must be Ouranium around there someplace.

FAX

Crush
07-01-2009, 10:57 AM
This is just another example of the blatant anti-cheese and crackers propaganda that is being put out by the mainstream media. Uranium? Are you ****ing kidding me? Everyone knows that the moon is made out of cheese, but our Kraft Velveeta overlords continue to sprout their BS in an attempt to distort the truth. If you believe this story, then you are just sheeple happily content with buying expensive mediocre cheese while there is a supply of good delicious cheese that is visible to the naked eye.

LaChapelle
07-01-2009, 11:10 AM
First North Korea, now the mooninites.