Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers 7/6

[petegz28]

Game on.......

[DeezNutz]

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[petegz28]

JFC....DDJ shot by a mile.....why do you call a steal with him? Why? If it was a hit and run, pitch out or not...Bloomy has to swing the fucking bat!

[DeezNutz]

Bloomquist blows the hit and run and then strikes out. Brilliant.

[petegz28]

Bloomquist blows the hit and run and then strikes out. Brilliant.

More of those Trey fundamentals at work.....he always has this team mentally prepared......to lose

[DeezNutz]

More of those Trey fundamentals at work.....he always has this team mentally prepared......to lose

Will Meche throw more or less than 120 pitches?

[petegz28]

Will Meche throw more or less than 120 pitches?

Well, going from 0-2 to walking the hitter I will say more.....Trey will be too scared of Meche to pull him

[DeezNutz]

Well, going from 0-2 to walking the hitter I will say more.....Trey will be too scared of Meche to pull him

I'm saying less b/c of a poor outing. 6 runs in 5.

[petegz28]

Wow...4 Royal hitters...3 K's......nice.....:(

[petegz28]

Nice Jacobs...I am so glad you are in the lineup and not B. Pena who was actually being productive

[petegz28]

BTW, Mike Jacobs' wife sat behind me the other day at the game and actually had someone with her with a White Sox jersey on........nice

[petegz28]

nice meatball Meche......1-0 Tigers

[petegz28]

Inge reaches 1st on the strikeout

[petegz28]

Meche's 2nd inning so far....


edit..1st hitter ....out
1st hitter....hr
2nd hitter...reaches 1st on a K with a wild pitch
3rd hitter...walked
4th hitter...walked


DP bails him out of the inning

[KCCHIEFS27]

3 straight pitches in the same spot to walk Laird. I am giving this game one more inning before I switch over to ESPN. Meche is one lucky guy for that ground ball.

[petegz28]

I don't think Olivo swung at 1 strike...I swear they were all out of the zone

[KCCHIEFS27]

Man, these threads have really turned into a ghost town.

[petegz28]

Man, these threads have really turned into a ghost town.

It takes either a huge sac or a large craving of mental abuse to watch these games anymore. Not sure which. Probably the latter.

[petegz28]

And another **** up on the basepaths......WTF does Kuntz not yell at him to get his ass back??? We probably got ****ed on the call but Bloomy had no business stretching that into two

[KCCHIEFS27]

Wow, looking good Willie. And here comes Trey to argue another idiotic mistake by one of his players. I think he was out on the first slide. Maybe not, sure looked like it though.

[petegz28]

Wow, looking good Willie. And here comes Trey to argue another idiotic mistake by one of his players. I think he was out on the first slide. Maybe not, sure looked like it though.

Fielder dropped the ball on the 1st tag

[petegz28]

Bloomy witht he jack to tie the game.....well...he made up for the bad baserunning and blown hit and run....I guess

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Bloomy witht he jack to tie the game.....well...he made up for the bad baserunning and blown hit and run....I guess

uh, yes. a home run makes up for a bad slide.

[Pioli Zombie]

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[Mama Hip Rockets]

Fielder dropped the ball on the 1st tag

prince fielder? or cecil?

[petegz28]

prince fielder? or cecil?

Sorry..The fielder.....better?

[petegz28]

uh, yes. a home run makes up for a bad slide.

but does it make up for a boneheaded decsion to turn a single into a double (slide irrelevant cause he should have been shot by a mile..AND a blown hit and run??? :hmmm:

[Mr. Krab]

Maier and guillen perform a clown act in the outfield.

[petegz28]

Maier needs to learn how to shout........Guillen was saying "I got it..." and Maier was just sticking his hand out

[Mama Hip Rockets]

ROFL nice catch guillen.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

but does it make up for a boneheaded decsion to turn a single into a double (slide irrelevant cause he should have been shot by a mile..AND a blown hit and run??? :hmmm:

yes. when your offense sucks this much, a home run pretty much makes up for anything.

[Pioli Zombie]

Did Guillen start from the warning track as usual?
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[Mr. Krab]

Maier needs to learn how to shout........Guillen was saying "I got it..." and Maier was just sticking his hand out
I think Maier was considering that he is the center fielder, that he should have priority. It's up to Guillen to look. Maier learned that from always having Coco take the ball from him. Maier didn't like it when Coco did it so he dam well isn't gonna let Guillen override him.

[petegz28]

And Meche immediatley gives up the lead...

[Mama Hip Rockets]

:cuss:gilbert:cuss:

[petegz28]

I think Maier was considering that he is the center fielder, that he should have priority. It's up to Guillen to look. Maier learned that from always having Coco take the ball from him. Maier didn't like it when Coco did it so he dam well isn't gonna let Guillen override him.

Nope..don't like the look part cause you take your eyes off the ball...that is why you shout "I got it" or "Mine"

[petegz28]

:cuss:gilbert:cuss:

He is classic for that....as soon as we take the lead or tie, in this case, he gives it up the next inning.

[petegz28]

And for the 2nd time tonight Meche goes from 0-2 to a walk for his 4th walk of the game.

And HTF can Fever say Meche has looked good in his last 2 starts when he has walked 9 and got hammered his last time out? Fever really is annoying to listen too anymore

[petegz28]

And now he follows it up with a 4-pitch walk.....Meche out of the game...Cruz to the mound

[DeezNutz]

114.

[petegz28]

I'm saying less b/c of a poor outing. 6 runs in 5.

You were right but I was close...


114 pitches......

[petegz28]

114.

Greinke gets pulled at 80 but "Dead-Arm" Gil goes for 110+ again....

[DeezNutz]

You were right but I was close...


114 pitches......

Kinda.

It was an ugly outing, but not exactly poor, if that makes any sense.

[petegz28]

Kinda.

It was an ugly outing, but not exactly poor, if that makes any sense.

If by "not exactly" poor you mean Detroit didn't take advantage of the 5 walks, then ok

[Mama Hip Rockets]

meche sucks.

[petegz28]

meche sucks.

He served his purpose but I am ready to dish him off now....he can be easily replaced with the way he is pitching right now.

[petegz28]

I would love to see Jacobs swing at a strike and look at a ball for once instead of the other way around

[DeezNutz]

If by "not exactly" poor you mean Detroit didn't take advantage of the 5 walks, then ok

I give him credit for getting the DP ball. Call it lucky or whatever, but the results were decent.

[petegz28]

Fever "...Jacobs, mostly a pull hitter..."...LMAO

I will guarantee he has fouled out or popped up to the left side of the IF than he has anything else

[petegz28]

And Jacobs gives us a rare K....oh wait....

[SPATCH]

Nope..don't like the look part cause you take your eyes off the ball...that is why you shout "I got it" or "Mine"

yep... played CF from 8th through 12th grade... CF calls it, then RF or LF peels off

[Mama Hip Rockets]

He served his purpose but I am ready to dish him off now....he can be easily replaced with the way he is pitching right now.

agreed, i would in no way be opposed to trading him for some offense.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

mike jacobs is the worst player in the major leagues this side of tony pena jr.

[petegz28]

I don't think we have managed to advance the leadoff hitter once this game

[DeezNutz]

He served his purpose but I am ready to dish him off now....he can be easily replaced with the way he is pitching right now.

Easily? Nah.

But I wouldn't hesitate to trade him for a solid return.

[SPATCH]

agreed, i would in no way be opposed to trading him for some offense.

we're not going to get a quality bat for gil....

[DeezNutz]

we're not going to get a quality bat for gil....

We'll get 2-3 high-quality prospects.

[SPATCH]

We'll get 2-3 high-quality prospects.

MAYBE one high-quality... and a couple of mid-level guys IMO

i say fuck that...

[petegz28]

I'll take a #9 hitter who can put down a bunt.....JFC Maier you suck!

[CHENZ A!]

Meier is just awful at everything.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

we're not going to get a quality bat for gil....

surely they can get someone better than ryan freel, tony pena jr., luis hernandez, tug hulett, mitch maier, mike jacobs, etc.

[DeezNutz]

MAYBE one high-quality... and a couple of mid-level guys IMO

i say **** that...

He'd likely be the best starting pitcher on the market and is someone who is still under contract for the next 2.5 years. He'd bring more than you're giving credit for in a trade.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

ok pete, has bloomquist made up for his baserunning mistake now?

[Farzin]

Woooooooo

[petegz28]

Bloomy with the 2 run-triple! Ok..he has officially made up for his fuck ups in the game. He has all 3 RBI's tonight

[petegz28]

terrible AB, Billay...you have to get the ball past the pitcher there

[teedubya]

what happened? I see we scored 2... HOW THE FUCK?!!

[CHENZ A!]

MVP!

[petegz28]

what happened? I see we scored 2... HOW THE ****?!!

2 on and Bloomy tripled to right-center

[petegz28]

damn, we really needed to get the guy on 3rd home with less than 2 out....that sucks

[petegz28]

I guess it truly is beyond Hillman to ask Soria to pitch 2 innings....

[Mama Hip Rockets]

damn, we really needed to get the guy on 3rd home with less than 2 out....that sucks

yup, i'm glad to have the lead, but a 1-run lead is not safe with this bullpen.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

why is teahen suddenly the best third baseman of all time?

[DeezNutz]

Bloomquist's offensive outburst makes Dayton freel like he made a great acquisition earlier today.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

boooo

[Mama Hip Rockets]

sure would be nice to have ramirez and nunez right about now.

[petegz28]

well....not getting a runner on 3rd with 1 out across the plate just cost us

[OmahaChief]

well....not getting a runner on 3rd with 1 out across the plate just cost us

That and the fact that 90% of the time when the Royals get the lead the pitcher gives it right back.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

hmmmm i wonder if jacobs will strike out here.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

HOLY FUCK

[doomy3]

FINALLY!!

[petegz28]

OMFG!!! Jacobs hit a go-ahead jack!

[SPATCH]

jacobs lol

[OmahaChief]

About Effin time. You have to love when he hits a HR. There is no effin doubt. Too bad he sucks ass most of the time.

[DeezNutz]

He was trying to pop it up, but he missed.

[petegz28]

The only thing bad about Jacobs hitting that jack is Hillman will put that much more faith in him

[BigChiefFan]

Jacobs could be a monster at the plate if he could ever learn some patience and to go for base hits.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

today is a special day, mike jacobs swung hard and made contact

[SPATCH]

philly up 22-1 on cincy

[VonneMarie]

philly up 22-1 on cincy

Dayum! :eek:

[DeezNutz]

Jacobs could be a monster at the plate if he could ever learn some patience and to go for base hits.

And if that bitch wasn't 300 lbs overweight with a jacked up face and a flat ass, she'd be hot.

[petegz28]

Mr. Filth on the mound...

[SPATCH]

He'd likely be the best starting pitcher on the market and is someone who is still under contract for the next 2.5 years. He'd bring more than you're giving credit for in a trade.

well considering what we got for the beltran trade.... ahh fuck it nvm

[Mizzou_8541]

Mike Jacobs. FTW.

[DeezNutz]

well considering what we got for the beltran trade.... ahh **** it nvm

He was months away from FA, a rent-a-player deal. Not even comparable.

Meche is under contract for another 2.5 years.

[SPATCH]

He was months away from FA, a rent-a-player deal. Not even comparable.

Meche is under contract for another 2.5 years.

being the wet dream of every GM in the majors more than makes up for the rent-a-player aspect of it.... it's comparable

[petegz28]

Good thing Hillman put Pena in at SS...

[doomy3]

There's our "closer shortstop."

[SPATCH]

fudge

[DeezNutz]

being the wet dream of every GM in the majors more than makes up for the rent-a-player aspect of it.... it's comparable

No GM is going to want to mortgage top prospects for 3 months, so no, it's really not. Making that kind of mistake costs people jobs.

Great job by our defensive specialist, Dorn.

[DJ's left nut]

Not an easy play to make, but Pena definitely let the ball play him there. You average SS won't make that play probably 1/2 the time but your 'defensive specialist' damn sure oughta.

[DeezNutz]

Not an easy play to make, but Pena definitely let the ball play him there. You average SS won't make that play probably 1/2 the time but your 'defensive specialist' damn sure oughta.

If he doesn't act like a bitch and play it off to the side, I'm more forgiving.

[petegz28]

If he doesn't act like a bitch and play it off to the side, I'm more forgiving.

Exactly...he knocks it down he has plenty of time to throw the runner out

[DeezNutz]

Granderson looks real nervous, but he's a happy K.

[petegz28]

Sit down.....


Jack Filthy for the save!

[SPATCH]

gotcha bitch

[DeezNutz]

Did Jacobs take the chew (or small dick) he keeps in his cheek out long enough to tape his charity commercial?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

dam that was intense

[sedated]

being the wet dream of every GM in the majors more than makes up for the rent-a-player aspect of it.... it's comparable

"3 months of Beltran" gets traded every single year. There's ALWAYS a desperate small market club looking to dump expired talent to a contender.

How often do quality starting pitchers, with 2+ years left in their contract, get traded?

[BAS]

What a great game. Royals win three in a row! Nine more and we will be above water again...

[SPATCH]

"3 months of Beltran" gets traded every single year. There's ALWAYS a desperate small market club looking to dump expired talent to a contender.

How often do quality starting pitchers, with 2+ years left in their contract, get traded?

there was more buzz about beltran during that trade deadline than any other field-position player that i can remember for a long time...

point is.... we clearly fucked that trade up and i don't see us getting two high-quality prospects for gil

either way, i'm against trading him... if we're not going to get big-league ready talent then it's not worth it IMO...

[SPATCH]

What a great game. Royals win three in a row! Nine more and we will be above water again...

oh neat

[Mama Hip Rockets]

soria is back.

[sedated]

there was more buzz about beltran during that trade deadline than any other field-position player that i can remember for a long time...

there is ALWAYS hype around the top prospect at the trading deadline. you might only remember it because he was the KC guy, and trading him had been talked about for 2 solid years.


point is.... we clearly ****ed that trade up and i don't see us getting two high-quality prospects for gil

"we screwed up a trade several years ago, under management that no longer exists...so FUK trades, we always get screwed."


if we're not going to get big-league ready talent then it's not worth it IMO...

the desire for "big league ready" talent was the CAUSE for the Beltran fuk-up. No team can be afraid of stockpiling A-ball talent - that's what the sucessful "small market" teams (like the Marlins) do.

[CHENZ A!]

I don't really want us to trade Gil. I'd rather have some decent pitching if we are going to lose games anyway. I wish we'd just score some damn runs for him.

[chiefsfan987]

I don't really want us to trade Gil. I'd rather have some decent pitching if we are going to lose games anyway. I wish we'd just score some damn runs for him.

Trading Gil would be one of the dumbest things this franchise has ever done and its done some really dumb things. The Royals have been horrible at piecing together a legitamate rotation for years, and now that they have one just blow it up? I don't think so.

[DeezNutz]

I understand fans claiming that they don't want to trade the likes of Meche and Soria. Fine. Everyone is tired of this farce of a rebuild (read: sucker the fans out of money while we have a built-in excuse of spending less money).

That said, barring a trade of legit talent, Soria or Meche, how are you adding impact players to this roster? We're at least 2 years away from any of our recent draft picks arriving, and we have no talent at AAA. Additionally, it's been proven that we can't (or won't) purchase the top FA talent (like a Tex), and even when we make legit offers, talented FAs tell us to go **** ourselves.

We're going to improve through the draft and trades, and it's going to have to be a combination of the two. Thus the love affair with current players is going to have to be tempered with facing the reality of this franchise, which is still FUBARed from years of Glass not giving a ****.

[alanm]

Published Monday July 6, 2009
PCL: Davies' refresher course

By Rob White
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER




It's hard to define, this thing called command.
All pitchers seek it, but it isn't simply a matter of putting in your time.
“It's practice, practice, practice in other sports, but in baseball you have to do the least to get the best,” said Omaha pitching coach Tom Burgmeier. “Because you can't throw 100 pitches every day. It's a mindset. It's being aggressive.”
Kyle Davies is back in Omaha, pitching in Class AAA after opening the season as Kansas City's No. 3 starter.
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Take one guess what Davies is seeking to find.
“One of these days my fastball command has to be consistent, and it's got to get better,” he said.
Davies started this stretch in Omaha in, shall we say, commanding fashion, with 14 consecutive scoreless innings — eight in a victory over Memphis, then six more against Albuquerque.
But that's not necessarily as good as it can get.
“The first (start), he was very good,” Burgmeier said. “The second, the results were just as good, but the command was below average. He knows that, too. He had success, but at a different (major league) level, I don't think the results would be the same. The pitcher, when he lets it go, knows if it (the pitch) is good or bad.”
Davies, who allowed one run on three hits over five innings Sunday at Oklahoma City to improve to 3-0 with an 0.47 ERA, doesn't disagree.
“There's still stuff to get better at,” Davies said. “I've been walking some guys that I shouldn't.”
Davies didn't disagree, either, with the Royals' decision to option him to Class AAA. He was 3-7 with a 5.76 ERA in 14 starts for Kansas City, and was sent down after allowing eight runs — seven earned — in 2.2 innings against St. Louis on June 19.
“I wasn't pitching very well, and understandably you need to be sent down if you're not pitching well,” Davies said.
Davies has walked 41 batters while striking out 54 for Kansas City this season, producing unfavorable ratios in walks per nine innings (4.6) and walks-to-strikeouts.
“Sometimes the indicator isn't necessarily how many you've walked, it's deep counts, 3-and-2,” Burgmeier said. “You're throwing more pitches, obviously there's a chance to make more mistakes. Throw it high in the big leagues, they'll kill you. Not every day, but usually.”
Davies, 25, appeared to have turned a career corner last season, when he was 4-1 with a 2.27 ERA in September for Kansas City. He pitched seven shutout innings, striking out eight, in his first start this year and had a 2.89 ERA over his first three starts.
But things started slipping away.
“That's why baseball is a perfect game — you can have it one minute and lose it the next,” Davies said.
Kansas City catcher John Buck, in Omaha last week on a rehabilitation assignment, was behind the plate for Davies' second start and likes what he's done since being sent down.
“He's getting ahead of people and throwing quality stuff,” Buck said. “And it's never a question of stuff with him. If he does what he's doing now in the big leagues, he'll be in good shape.”
That's about the only report Davies is getting from anybody out of Kansas City, he said. A return trip to the minor leagues is an experience of self-discovery, if not self-recovery.
“It's tough because you develop a relationship with those guys, but it's more about me right now,” Davies said. “Getting myself the best I can be; that's the only thing that I can control.”
Davies, named by Baseball America the best player in the country at his age as both a 14- and 15-year-old, got to the big leagues at 21 with Atlanta and was 7-6 with a 4.93 ERA. A groin injury knocked him off track the following season, and he still hasn't spent a full season in the majors. Overall he is 29-42 with a 5.65 ERA in the majors.
He had a mildly surprising refresher course in Omaha last year, too, going 6-2 with a Pacific Coast League-best 2.02 ERA to start the season. The Royals called him up May 31, and he made only one other minor league appearance the rest of the season.
“I just need to get to where I can be successful as a major league pitcher,” Davies said. “I am better than I was last year.”
Davies said he's just tried to clear his mind since getting sent down this year, and to be aggressive.
“You don't have to be perfect,” he said. “You start by throwing the ball over the plate and go from there. Hit the catcher's mitt. It's that easy.”
Does what he's doing here translate to the major leagues?
“There's no real way to tell until you get up there,” Davies said. “You're not going to find out pitching here. You try to get your confidence up and find command.”
Contact the writer:
444-1027, rob.white@owh.com


I imagine he's going to get a call back soon.

[DeezNutz]

Royals: continuing to lead the league in AAAA talent.

[chiefbowe82]

the real question is, who the fuck is bruce chen thats pitching tomorrrow

[Ceej]

the real question is, who the **** is bruce chen thats pitching tomorrrow

Barring Greinke, it doesn't matter who KC has on the bump tomorrow night. Detwa will have Verlander on the bump. I'm willing to guess KC wouldn't give BIG Z enough run support anyway.

[chiefbowe82]

verlander is an amazing halo player, in case you were curious

[Ceej]

verlander is an amazing halo player, in case you were curious

Not so much. Not a big fan of futuristic FPS games.