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Silock
07-23-2009, 02:12 PM
Wow.

keg in kc
07-23-2009, 02:12 PM
Seriously?

Wow indeed.

The Bad Guy
07-23-2009, 02:12 PM
He might be the most underrated pitcher in baseball. The guy is a monster.

-King-
07-23-2009, 02:14 PM
Yup they cut to it from nfl live. Great game. Hell of a catch by Wise.
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OnTheWarpath15
07-23-2009, 02:20 PM
Hell of a catch to save a HR, the perfect game, and a no-hitter.

And he did it against the AL Champs.

Buck
07-23-2009, 02:22 PM
Isn't that his 2nd no no?

KCChiefsMan
07-23-2009, 02:23 PM
Isn't that his 2nd no no?

yup

Buck
07-23-2009, 02:24 PM
So, is there anybody w/ multiple no nos that isnt in the HOF?

Buck
07-23-2009, 02:26 PM
So, is there anybody w/ multiple no nos that isnt in the HOF?

I just checked and there is at least one.

Larry Corcoran (even though after reading his stats he should be)

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:26 PM
So, is there anybody w/ multiple no nos that isnt in the HOF?
Well, he's 30...he has been SUPER durable...he's left-handed...he has 132 wins already...he now has 2 no-hitters (1 of them being a perfect game) and he's a World Series winner in which he had a great postseason.

He's probably hall of fame bound.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:28 PM
and he's won an all-star game...

Pretty solid career resume.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:28 PM
2005 postseason he was 2-0 with a CG and a save.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:29 PM
Unfortunately, he can't hit. 4/40 career without an extra base hit.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:32 PM
and truly a good guy, too...

Last year (or maybe the year before?) when everyone in the world thought the Sox had to trade him, he made one last start and the crowd gave him a standing ovation, real emotional...he was so grateful he ended up signing a huge hometown discount...guys like Zito got $150M...settled for 4 years and $56M...not chump change, but there are no doubts he could have gotten at least $130M on the open market...you don't find many lefties as consistent and durable as Buehrle, put him in the NL and he's going to win at least 15 a year with an ERA probably under 3...

Reaper16
07-23-2009, 02:32 PM
Fuck the White Sox and all... but big ups to Mark. He's only the 16th pitcher in the modern MLB (20th century +) to throw a perfect game.

AJ Pierzinsky wasn't catching Mark today, which is pretty sweet.

Also, Obama has requested, this very minute I type this, to speak with Mark.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:33 PM
I know that's the 17th perfect game...was there someone who threw two perfect games?

Reaper16
07-23-2009, 02:36 PM
I know that's the 17th perfect game...was there someone who threw two perfect games?
ESPN and Wikipedia both say 16th.

Buck
07-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Espn said it was the 17th.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:39 PM
ESPN and Wikipedia both say 16th.

Yeah, ESPN says both...this is there final line in the game recap:

This was the 17th perfect game in the regular season and one perfect game in the postseason.

Another note...

I know Royals fans hate the Sox, but god damn Hawk Harrelson is a great announcer. He's awesome.

Reaper16
07-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Yeah, ESPN says both...this is there final line in the game recap:

This was the 17th perfect game in the regular season and one perfect game in the postseason.

Another note...

I know Royals fans hate the Sox, but god damn Hawk Harrelson is a great announcer. He's awesome.
16th in the modern era; there were two perfect games before 1900. So this was either the 16th or the 18th, depending on what measurement you want to use.

Also, Hawk is perhaps the worst MLB announcer I've ever heard.

Sure-Oz
07-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Why couldn't it be against the Royals? They might've put an * on it and hell would break loose in KC....

Congrats to Buehler

blaise
07-23-2009, 02:43 PM
16th in the modern era; there were two perfect games before 1900. So this was either the 16th or the 18th, depending on what measurement you want to use.

Also, Hawk is perhaps the worst MLB announcer I've ever heard.

Yep. "He gone" is the worst call other than "Yankees win! THEEEE YANKEEEES WIIIIIN!"

topher79
07-23-2009, 02:43 PM
So, is there anybody w/ multiple no nos that isnt in the HOF?

Larry Corcoran (3)
Johnny Vandermeer (back to back)
Steve Busby
Carl Erskine
Bob Forsch
Ken Holtzman
Randy Johnson
Jim Maloney
Al Atkinson
Ted Breitenstein
Hideo Nomo
Allie Reynolds
Dutch Leonard
Frank Smith
Bill Stoneman
Adonis Terry
Virgil Trucks
Don Wilson

blaise
07-23-2009, 02:44 PM
That's pretty awesome. I don't think he's a HOFer though unless he gets a lot more wins. But he's definitely underrated.

Reaper16
07-23-2009, 02:45 PM
Yep. "He gone" is the worst call
Don't make me agree with you ever again. It makes me uncomfortable. :p

Fish
07-23-2009, 02:46 PM
He's becoming the best in baseball....

Reaper16
07-23-2009, 02:47 PM
He's becoming the best in baseball....

wot

MoreLemonPledge
07-23-2009, 02:49 PM
He's becoming the best in baseball....

?

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Yep. "He gone" is the worst call other than "Yankees win! THEEEE YANKEEEES WIIIIIN!"

Wow...

I think it's great. He's been a staple in that organization forever...and Steve Stone has always provided great, unbiased analysis.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:54 PM
That's pretty awesome. I don't think he's a HOFer though unless he gets a lot more wins. But he's definitely underrated.
If he locks up 200 wins with his resume...I don't see how he wouldn't eventually get in.

Hootie
07-23-2009, 02:55 PM
and I also don't think 250 wins would be that big of a stretch...

blaise
07-23-2009, 03:04 PM
If he locks up 200 wins with his resume...I don't see how he wouldn't eventually get in.

I don't know, dude. We'll see. I guess if Schilling gets in, then he should too. But a lot of writers would say Schilling's borderline.
I just don't know about guys with 200-230 wins. Tim Wakefield might end up with that and I don't think he's hall of fame material.

kcxiv
07-23-2009, 03:04 PM
going to watch the end of this on mlb.tv love their dvr function

Sure-Oz
07-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow...

I think it's great. He's been a staple in that organization forever...and Steve Stone has always provided great, unbiased analysis.

Hawk really sucks.....

Steve Stone is definetly the opposite imo, he's good in the booth.

DaKCMan AP
07-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Got home from work to watch from the 3rd inning on.

He pitched amazing. Props.

The Bad Guy
07-23-2009, 03:50 PM
Wow...

I think it's great. He's been a staple in that organization forever...and Steve Stone has always provided great, unbiased analysis.

Hawk Harrelson and Steve Stone are by far my favorite to listen to.

You can put it on the board, YEAHHHHHHHH.

Demonpenz
07-23-2009, 03:55 PM
The hawk sucks as announcer, but I have learned shit about the game i have never heard of him, plus he talks about getting drunk sometimes.

Simply Red
07-23-2009, 04:10 PM
damn, that's great.

Frazod
07-23-2009, 04:23 PM
One of the lawyers in my office had tickets right behind home plate for today's game and couldn't go because a client emergency came up. God, is he PISSED.

CoMoChief
07-23-2009, 04:24 PM
He's very underrated IMO. All I know is that he creams the Royals all the time

Buck
07-23-2009, 04:41 PM
Apparently Dewayne Wise made the Catch of the Century w/ no outs in the 9th.

And then Buehrle struck out the batter w/ 1 out in the 9th on a 3-2 CHANGEUP. That takes guts.

Ebolapox
07-23-2009, 04:42 PM
I just checked and there is at least one.

Larry Corcoran (even though after reading his stats he should be)

there was a dude who pitched back-to-back no-hitters back in the 30's, I think. lemme go check. johnny something or another...

alright, I was right. johnny vander meer pitched back to back no-hitters in 1938.

and, he's not in the hall-of-fame. he had an (obviously) up and down career. around .500 for his career. made four all-star teams.

OnTheWarpath15
07-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Apparently Dewayne Wise made the Catch of the Century w/ no outs in the 9th.

And then Buehrle struck out the batter w/ 1 out in the 9th on a 3-2 CHANGEUP. That takes guts.

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Ebolapox
07-23-2009, 04:44 PM
Larry Corcoran (3)
Johnny Vandermeer (back to back)
Steve Busby
Carl Erskine
Bob Forsch
Ken Holtzman
Randy Johnson
Jim Maloney
Al Atkinson
Ted Breitenstein
Hideo Nomo
Allie Reynolds
Dutch Leonard
Frank Smith
Bill Stoneman
Adonis Terry
Virgil Trucks
Don Wilson

gah, you got to it first.

and, virgil 'fire' trucks is on the list. nice.

Buck
07-23-2009, 04:45 PM
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Awesome

Ebolapox
07-23-2009, 04:46 PM
One of the lawyers in my office had tickets right behind home plate for today's game and couldn't go because a client emergency came up. God, is he PISSED.

dunno why. I mean, aside from being able to say you saw a perfect game, they're one of the most boring events to see live sporting-events wise.

Ebolapox
07-23-2009, 04:51 PM
Apparently Dewayne Wise made the Catch of the Century w/ no outs in the 9th.

And then Buehrle struck out the batter w/ 1 out in the 9th on a 3-2 CHANGEUP. That takes guts.

good catch, but catch of the century? I mean, I guess. century is kinda young yet. I seem to recall there was an (anaheim) angel that went into the wall, broke his nose, but still made the catch.

Buck
07-23-2009, 04:53 PM
good catch, but catch of the century? I mean, I guess. century is kinda young yet. I seem to recall there was an (anaheim) angel that went into the wall, broke his nose, but still made the catch.

Probably Aaron Rowand for the Phillies you are thinking about.

I wrote that down before I actually saw the catch, but Wise's preserved a Perfect game. The weight of that adds to the catch a little bit.

cmh6476
07-23-2009, 05:00 PM
on my fantasy team :PBJ:

Ebolapox
07-23-2009, 05:04 PM
Probably Aaron Rowand for the Phillies you are thinking about.

I wrote that down before I actually saw the catch, but Wise's preserved a Perfect game. The weight of that adds to the catch a little bit.

yep, it was rowand.

and from a pure 'moment' perspective, it adds to it. from a technical and physics standpoint, it's no better or worse than rowand's catch due to the moment. the moment weighs not one bit into the discussion from a pure 'great catch' standpoint.

and I can't seem to find rowand's catch on youtube. strange.