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mike_b_284
08-12-2009, 02:23 PM
I remember when we were talking about trading for this guy.




Hand signals? Brady Quinn has a hand signal for Derek Anderson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Hand-signals-Brady-Quinn-has-a-hand-signal-for-?urn=nfl,182358)

By MJD
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__15/ept_sports_nfl_experts-788092061-1250069742.jpg?ymuDCuBD0Yh54lTfESPN's John Clayton stuck an interesting tidbit about the Cleveland Browns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cle/) quarterback battle in his latest report (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=4388546) from Browns training camp (also known as the Eric Mangini control festival (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-brownscamp081009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)). It seems that young Brady Quinn (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8276/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8276/news) is not above a little bit of chicanery in his quest to win the Browns' starting quarterback job.Derek Anderson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7389/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7389/news) said the radio receiver in his helmet wasn't working Sunday, so he had to work with hand signals. Anderson said Brady Quinn, who was quarterbacking the White team, schooled White defenders on those hand signals, which made it harder for Anderson to work a drive filled with short passes.
Helping the defense intercept signals during a scrimmage in order to gain an edge in a training camp position battle ... that's kind of awesome.
Quinn has not had a chance to respond to Clayton's report. But if it's true, is what he did cheating? I guess you could call it cheating. Is it unethical? Probably. Would I do it? I would absolutely do it.
And before passing judgment, remember that we don't know all the circumstances here. Maybe it was a scrimmage where something was on the line. For example, maybe the Brown team got out of practice early if they won, or maybe the White team got Popsicles if they won.
Maybe Quinn was just practicing the stealing of signals for the regular season, in which case, it's something that would be beneficial to everyone in the Browns organization, would it not?
Maybe there was a purpose beyond, "Screw Derek Anderson, I'm trying to win this job."
Or maybe there wasn't. Does there have to be? I would guess that Eric Mangini wants his players to be that competitive about their spots. If it's not something that's hurting the team (and it's not, since it's a scrimmage), where's the harm?

The Franchise
08-12-2009, 02:59 PM
Derek Anderson is a whiny bitch.

Frosty
08-12-2009, 03:01 PM
When I first saw the picture, I figured Quinn was having fun with DA, since DA's nickname is the "Moose from Scappoose".

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=25561

ModSocks
08-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Eric Mangina is a fucking prick

Rain Man
08-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Or maybe there wasn't. Does there have to be? I would guess that Eric Mangini wants his players to be that competitive about their spots. If it's not something that's hurting the team (and it's not, since it's a scrimmage), where's the harm?

The harm is that the Browns organization could end up with a starting quarterback who's not the best starting quarterback, because he cheated in training camp. If I was the coach, I'd fine the guy about a million dollars.

How is this different than a lineman filling another lineman's blocking sled with lead? Or a cornerback pulling the cleats off another cornerback's shoes?

Pathetic.

Rain Man
08-12-2009, 03:26 PM
Now that I think about it, it also affects other positions, because it gave some defenders an unfair edge over other defenders in their own training camp battles. The more I think about it, I'd double the fine to two million dollars.

Mecca
08-12-2009, 03:27 PM
Eric Mangina is a fucking prick

He's an example of a Patriots coach gone to far.

stlchiefs
08-12-2009, 06:01 PM
He's an example of a Patriots coach gone to far.

What's that make Quinn a Patriots A/V guy?

88TG88
08-12-2009, 06:15 PM
Eric Mangina is a fucking prick

this

salame
08-12-2009, 11:17 PM
quinn looks buff

Mr. Arrowhead
08-12-2009, 11:38 PM
Brady Quinn is a little bitch