the ULTIMATE Jon Runyan thread. (Runyan in KC for a workout...)

[MMXcalibur]

This thread is a combination of the following 3 threads...

AUSTINCHIEF- *************************************
ok, I have mentioned before that I would love to see Runyan in KC...

I decided to start my own thread about it... because... well... I can.

So, here are my reasons why...

#1 all the obvious reasons... he is a pro bowler, proven player, definite upgrade, etc etc

#2 another fairly obvious one... Ndukwe would be better used at RG and this would let him move there.

#3 now we get to the good stuff... ON THE FIELD he is a nasty, mean, dirty S.O.B.

#4 OFF THE FIELD, he is a stand up guy, nice etc...

IF he can give us 2 solid years, he is well worth the investment until we can groom someone to replace him... MOST IMPORTANTLY he sets a perfect example of what our linemen of the future should aspire to be.
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KCtotheSB*****************************************
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/08/runyan-is-ready-to-roll/


Runyan is ready to roll
Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2009 1:33 PM ET
As the regular season approaches, a guy who has been on the field every Sunday since 1997 still doesn't have a job.

But, by all indications, he will soon.

Per a league source, tackle Jon Runyan has been cleared to play after offseason microfracture surgery to repair an injured knee.

We're told that three teams are interested in Runyan. According to the source, Runyan rejected an opportunity to sign a contract last week because he didn't want to play for the team in question.

Oakland Raiders? We're looking at you.

Given the rule that guarantees a vested veteran's salary if he's on the Week One roster, look for Runyan to do a deal after the first games are played.

But if there are multiple teams in the mix, the one that's willing to step up and sign him now could be the one to get him.

Except for the Raiders.

I imagine we're one of the three teams that are interested, but were we the one team Runyan told to "Fuck off."?

BigEd*****************************************
Runyan in KC for a workout
<HR style="COLOR: #cccccc" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ut-runyan.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/biggs-source-says-chiefs-checking-out-runyan.html)

[Fish]

If I were Runyan, I wouldn't be wild about coming to the Chiefs right now.

[Mr. Krab]

If I were Runyan, I wouldn't be wild about coming to the Chiefs right now.
I don't know, a good RT could really make a huge difference in our season.

[Micjones]

I don't know, a good RT could really make a huge difference in our season.

A good RT and a solid #2 WR would make a BIG difference in what this team can be.

[Mr. Krab]

A good RT and a solid #2 WR would make a BIG difference in what this team can be.
truth

[salame]

I wonder who he rejected a deal from

[petegz28]

We aren't far from being a decent offense. A good RT would be one of the final pieces we need to make that happen.

If he told us to fuck off then fuck him.

[ModSocks]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were us. Maybe he isn't ready for the wrath of Haley.

[Molitoth]

I really doubt he rejected the chiefs. Players seem to like Pioli. I mean, it's not like he had to negotiate a contract with Carl Petersen whom players knew was a cheapass. Playing for Haley, while he may be a hardass at least isn't a no-winning loser slouch like Sperm Edwards.

[the Talking Can]

it can't be us, the experts said pioli has done nothing for weeks except play Fallout 3

[rambleonthruthefog]

old vets love Todd Haley.

[beach tribe]

A good RT and a solid #2 WR would make a BIG difference in what this team can be.

Well it looked like Bradley was going to be our #2, and if he's healthy, I think some people are going to be in for a big surprise as far as our #2 WR goes.

[DBOSHO]

the article says it was the raiders who he rejected.

[salame]

the article says it was the raiders who he rejected.

it insinuates

[DBOSHO]

it insinuates

the guy is out of work . he should take what he can get

[WilliamTheIrish]

hicks.

[DBOSHO]

wheres Tauscher?

[WilliamTheIrish]

We aren't far from being a decent offense. A good RT would be one of the final pieces we need to make that happen.

If he told us to **** off then **** him.

We are light years from being a decent offense.

Runyon might be a step in the right direction. The rest of the OLine is still pretty horrible.

Adding Runyon gives us how many wins?

[WilliamTheIrish]

the guy is out of work . he should take what he can get

It explains pretty clearly why he hasn't signed.

Given the rule that guarantees a vested veteran's salary if he's on the Week One roster, look for Runyan to do a deal after the first games are played.

[DeezNutz]

We aren't far from being a decent offense. A good RT would be one of the final pieces we need to make that happen.

If he told us to **** off then **** him.

Not addressing RT:

Our interior linemen are garbage. We don't have a starting caliber TE, RB, #2-3 WRs, or FB.

And we don't know if we have anything more than #2-4 QBs on the roster.

All this aside, the offense is really close.

[TheGuardian]

We are light years from being a decent offense.

Runyon might be a step in the right direction. The rest of the OLine is still pretty horrible.

Adding Runyon gives us how many wins?

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

[The Franchise]

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

You forget that Mark Castle has no one to throw the ball to.

[Skip Towne]

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

This board won't tolerate 8-8

[TheGuardian]

You forget that Mark Castle has no one to throw the ball to.

That Rison fella will catch some passez you wait.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

What pocket?

The center and RG are getting abused.

Getting serviceable play from the RT in only part of the equation, and isn't likely to amount much in the win column.

It might keep us from going through 3 QB's instead of 2, but until the other 2 weak spots are addressed, it's not going to matter much. Guys are still pressuring the QB up the middle.

[DBOSHO]

if we had a capable #2 wr and a good R T we would be a pretty good offense. we have a qb who can make all the throws when he has time, we have 2 pretty good rbs, and a reciever who is close to being elite. sounds similar to atlanta of last year to me.

[beach tribe]

You forget that Mark Castle has no one to throw the ball to.

As I said, I really think some people are going to be surprised by Bradley, and whoever ends up in the slot is going to benefit from that.
If our QB can get any time to throw, I think there will be targets.

[The Franchise]

What pocket?

The center and RG are getting abused.

Getting serviceable play from the RT in only part of the equation, and isn't likely to amount much in the win column.

It might keep us from going through 3 QB's instead of 2, but until the other 2 weak spots are addressed, it's not going to matter much. Guys are still pressuring the QB up the middle.

The only good thing that I can see happening from getting Runyan to play RT.....is that Ndukwe can move to RG where I think he's better suited. We still need to find a replacement for Niswanger though. That dude is fucking garbage.

[Mr. Krab]

We are light years from being a decent offense.

Runyon might be a step in the right direction. The rest of the OLine is still pretty horrible.

Adding Runyon gives us how many wins?I disagree. It depends on how well Runyon plays.

a good RT and #2 wr opens up the passing game to a decent level. A decent passing game opens up the running game to a decent level. Especially for Charles who could run draws and screens off the passing game.

This makes the offense decent

A decent offense takes some pressure off of a defense with some potiential to be decent.

I contest that a quality RT and a decent #2 receiver makes us a competitive team. Not ready for the playoffs, but competitive.

At least we wouldn't be a joke if we added 2 quality players at RT and WR.

[beach tribe]

This board won't tolerate 8-8

I would JIMP if we won 8 games.

[DeezNutz]

if we had a capable #2 wr and a good R T we would be a pretty good offense. we have a qb who can make all the throws when he has time, we have 2 pretty good rbs, and a reciever who is close to being elite. sounds similar to atlanta of last year to me.

Do we know this, definitively?

Offensively, ATL has a ton more talent than KC.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The only good thing that I can see happening from getting Runyan to play RT.....is that Ndukwe can move to RG where I think he's better suited. We still need to find a replacement for Niswanger though. That dude is fucking garbage.

True.

But at this point in Runyan's career, after this microfracture in his knee, who's to say he's any better than what we have?

Signing him MIGHT solve our RT problem.

IMO, there's just as good a chance it won't.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.


Agreed.

[The Franchise]

True.

But at this point in Runyan's career, after this microfracture in his knee, who's to say he's any better than what we have?

Signing him MIGHT solve our RT problem.

IMO, there's just as good a chance it won't.

I'd honestly sign him to a one year deal and let him battle it out with O'Connell for the starting job. I would much rather do that then neglect the RG position by keeping Ndukwe at RT. Goff is horrible...and so is Niswanger.

[Titty Meat]

Yea just what the Chiefs need. A 35 year old linemen coming off microfracture surgery.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'd honestly sign him to a one year deal and let him battle it out with O'Connell for the starting job. I would much rather do that then neglect the RG position by keeping Ndukwe at RT. Goff is horrible...and so is Niswanger.

I agree.

I'm just not expecting much if we do sign him, unlike others who are proclaiming that this offense is a Jon Runyan away from being good.

[Lzen]

A good RT and a solid #2 WR would make a BIG difference in what this team can be.

True. But I am not real confident in Goff, either. Need an upgrade at RG, too.

[Fish]

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

A 4 win difference?

ROFL

All a defense would have to do is attack the center or right guard instead of RT. One (average) RT isn't going to be able to block everything to the right of Brian Waters. Which is what is needed at this point. If you've been watching at all this preseason, you'd see that the OLine has serious issues and it's not just RT by any means.

[The Franchise]

I agree.

I'm just not expecting much if we do sign him, unlike others who are proclaiming that this offense is a Jon Runyan away from being good.

I'm not expecting much either. I'm looking to sign him to one year deal in hopes that he can at least help keep Cassel alive back there for the year. We're still:

2 WRs
1 TE
1 OC
2 OG
1 OT
1 RB

away from being good.

[TheGuardian]

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.

I don't care if it's Runyan or whoever, the point is a right tackle that can solidify that edge is worth more than 1 win because of the impact on the overall offense. That's simply a fact if your achilles heel is the right tackle spot. If your quarterback can setup in the pocket and your WR's can get down the field then it opens up the playbook more and production increases. Now you've moved that 8th man from the box back out of it and the running game improves. A weak link on the edge of the line will kill every offense.

So light years? No.

[DeezNutz]

KC fans loves them some RT.

[DBOSHO]

Do we know this, definitively?

Offensively, ATL has a ton more talent than KC.

they are similar though.
cassel ryan
bowe white even though white is a better deep threat.
larry turner
charles norwood
Random TEs

[The Franchise]

they are similar though.
cassel ryan
bowe white even though white is a better deep threat.
larry turner
charles norwood
Random TEs

LMAO

[DBOSHO]

LMAO

your right they are nothing alike

[DeezNutz]

they are similar though.
cassel ryan
bowe white even though white is a better deep threat.
larry turner
charles norwood
Random TEs

Ryan was better, even as a n00b.
Bowe and White are comparable, but what about #2-3?
Turner. And it's not even close.
Norwood. Closer if Charles would protect the football.
O-line? ATL and not close.

[rad]

LOL @ "random TE's"...

[DBOSHO]

Ryan was better, even as a n00b.
Bowe and White are comparable, but what about #2-3?
Turner. And it's not even close.
Norwood. Closer if Charles would protect the football.
O-line? ATL and not close.

i said if we had an oline wed be comparable. turners good but im not ready to call him better than larry until he shows another good season.

[DeezNutz]

i said if we had an oline wed be comparable. turners good but im not ready to call him better than larry until he shows another good season.

Turner doesn't really have to do anything to be better than LJ, to be honest.

Johnson has fallen off the cliff is no longer a starting caliber RB in this league.

[DBOSHO]

Turner doesn't really have to do anything to be better than LJ, to be honest.

Johnson has fallen off the cliff is no longer a starting caliber RB in this league.

4.5 ypc last year. thats right up there with turner and peterson

[DeezNutz]

4.5 ypc last year. thats right up there with turner and peterson

Dude...

[DBOSHO]

Dude...

im just giving you the facts

[Fat Elvis]

We should just find some old lady, sign her for the rookie minimum and then push her down to the ground before every snap. The defense would have to at least step over her sobbing body--and that would be a drastic improvment over what we've had on the right side of the line for a couple of years.

[DumbHillbillies]

the guy is out of work . he should take what he can get

I get the sense that alot of free agents won't sign with us because they think the fan base is filled with a bunch of redneck dumb hillbillies. The free agents we do sign are usually over the hill or we overpay.

[Bwana]

I get the sense that alot of free agents won't sign with us because they think the fan base is filled with a bunch of redneck dumb hillbillies.

:spock:

[The Bad Guy]

LJ isn't even close to Michael Turner. Maybe Tina, but not Michael.

[DBOSHO]

youll see...

YOULL ALL SEEEEEEE

[Blindside58]

Jon Runyan-T-Eagles Sep. 8 - 4:53 pm et

Free agent OT Jon Runyan is reportedly working out for the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon.

Runyan (microfracture surgery) recently received full clearance to play in 2009. The veteran is on his last legs, but the Chiefs are desperate to fill their gaping hole at right tackle.
Source: National Football Post
Related: Chiefs

[DBOSHO]

Jon Runyan-T-Eagles Sep. 8 - 4:53 pm et

Free agent OT Jon Runyan is reportedly working out for the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon.

Runyan (microfracture surgery) recently received full clearance to play in 2009. The veteran is on his last legs, but the Chiefs are desperate to fill their gaping hole at right tackle.
Source: National Football Post
Related: Chiefs

so do we get 1st crack at him if we like him?

[Bill Lundberg]

Jon Runyan-T-Eagles Sep. 8 - 4:53 pm et

Free agent OT Jon Runyan is reportedly working out for the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon.

Runyan (microfracture surgery) recently received full clearance to play in 2009. The veteran is on his last legs, but the Chiefs are desperate to fill their gaping hole at right tackle.
Source: National Football Post
Related: Chiefs

sweet

[BigEd]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/biggs-source-says-chiefs-checking-out-runyan.html

[Mr. Arrowhead]

woo hoo, but i guess pioli is not trying

[KCChiefsMan]

bring his ass in

[Kylo Ren]

PBJPBJPBJPBJPBJPBJ

[Micjones]

Jon Runyan-T-Eagles Sep. 8 - 4:53 pm et

Free agent OT Jon Runyan is reportedly working out for the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon.

Runyan (microfracture surgery) recently received full clearance to play in 2009. The veteran is on his last legs, but the Chiefs are desperate to fill their gaping hole at right tackle.
Source: National Football Post
Related: Chiefs

Wow... They aren't playing around with the RT spot.
Well...at least not NOW.

[keg in kc]

Fucking Pioli. :shake:

[The Bad Guy]

He's a nasty fucker. Why not.

[Titty Meat]

I'd rather see O'Callaghan be the starter

[Mr. Arrowhead]

wow pioli is not trying

[The Franchise]

I would easily take Runyan at RT and move Ndukwe back in to the RG spot.

[DBOSHO]

how many years would you guys say he has left? 2?

[ElGringo]

I guess that means we aren't the team he told to F off!!!!!

[salame]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/ross_tucker/05/27/runyan/jon-runyan.jpg

[chiefbowe82]

he's a big body

[Iowanian]

Short term solution, but he's better with a gimp than our current RT options.


I guess if he's in town, it's good to know that the Chiefs aren't the team he wouldn't play for...

[Blindside58]

I would have hated for you to read the Jon Runyan Thread you repeatin reposterer!

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Its good move to bring him in, until we get someone next year

[Chieficus]

Jon Runyan-T-Eagles Sep. 8 - 4:53 pm et

Free agent OT Jon Runyan is reportedly working out for the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon.

Runyan (microfracture surgery) recently received full clearance to play in 2009. The veteran is on his last legs, but the Chiefs are desperate to fill their gaping hole at right tackle.
Source: National Football Post
Related: Chiefs

That's okay... Roaf was on his "last legs" practically too when we brought him in... Unless we have some unknown diamond in the rough, Runyan would be an immediate upgrade that might bring the line to being back close to respectable.

[Blindside58]

With the Chiefs Cap Room, he will not leave town without a contract.

[ChiefMojo]

HECK YEA!!!! He may be old, but at least it is worth the try to see if he still has anything left in the tank.

[raybec 4]

I would have hated for you to read the Jon Runyan Thread you repeatin reposterer!

Nice work, first in with the repostityo

[The Franchise]

That's okay... Roaf was on his "last legs" practically too when we brought him in... Unless we have some unknown diamond in the rough, Runyan would be an immediate upgrade that might bring the line to being back close to respectable.

We still need a RG and C.....before we can be considered respectable.

[Kylo Ren]

Hey, Willie Roaf was an injured, old veteran too.

[Spicy McHaggis]

Sweet. Our running backs may actually be able to find some holes.

[Chieficus]

We still need a RG and C.....before we can be considered respectable.

Hence...: "back close to"

:)

[ChiefaRoo]

I'd rather see O'Callaghan be the starter


FAIL

[raybec 4]

Sweet. Our running backs may actually be able to find some holes.

They'll just spit on em.

[nychief]

With the Chiefs Cap Room, he will not leave town without a contract.

I think you'll see him sign a one year deal, nothing cap busting about signing this old bag of bones.

[ChiefMojo]

Raybec your calling our so called OL "b*tches"?

[The Bad Guy]

Move Ike to RG. Get Goff the F off this roster.

Runyan and O'Callaghan can battle it out.

[Micjones]

Sign him up and let's roll!!!

[talastan]

Here's to hoping he passes the physical and the Don has him under contract tonight!! :toast:

[raybec 4]

Raybec your calling our so called OL "b*tches"?

Oh, he said holes! I mis-read that and thought it was ho's

[Red Coater]

how old is he? how many years does he have left,do yall think?

[Titty Meat]

Sign Runyan and release Thigpen

[Ralphy Boy]

I would have hated for you to read the Jon Runyan Thread you repeatin reposterer!

Hell no, that thread sucked!

Seriously, I'm glad he posted it because I already looked at that thread once and don't often read a thread over again.

[Mr. Krab]

I think he's probably still a good run blocker but i dunno if he still has the wheels to handle the outside rusher.

[Bwana]

Get it done.

[Mr. Krab]

<blink>THIS THREAD RULEZ, THE OTHER RUNYAN THREAD DROOLZ!!</blink>

[Red Coater]

Wonder who is gonna get released. if we do sign him.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Sign Runyan and release Thigpen
very much this

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Wonder who is gonna get released. if we do sign him.
Thigpen i hope

[Micjones]

Move Ike to RG. Get Goff the F off this roster.

Runyan and O'Callaghan can battle it out.

I'd keep Goff as a reserve Lineman, but I tend to agree.

[Micjones]

Thigpen i hope

Could be Turk.

[Mr. Krab]

C'mon guys, we have to keep posting in this thread. We have to beat the other thread.

We can do it!!

[Kylo Ren]

Is he a RT, LT or both? What's his natural position? What's his best position?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Could be Turk.

Thigpen is the better option, but I think you're right. I hope we sign this guy. A pork chop is a pork chop. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of tofu.

[Mr. Krab]

Is he a RT, LT or both? What's his natural position? What's his best position?
Pure Right tackle and a nasty one at that.

[colt459]

Found this poll from Espn given to players about a year ago.

sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?page=hotread7/seifert
(can't hyperlink yet....)
Here is the part about John Runyan

Tennessee cornerback Cortland Finnegan would prefer to avoid Eagles offensive tackle Jon Runyan (above). "He's a nasty player," Finnegan says of the 6-7, 330-pound Runyan.
Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan is regarded as a fearless player, aggressive in coverage and against the run. Ask him about a nightmare scenario, and it doesn't take him long to come up with one involving a notorious Philadelphia Eagles tandem.
"A screen with Jon Runyan with [Brian] Westbrook behind him," he said. "One-on-one with Runyan with Westbrook behind him for a touchdown. Oh my goodness. I know I am going to have to go through him if it's for a touchdown. I'm just thinking about what body part I am going to use that could be injured. Shoulder? Neck? Back? Those three things I would be highly worried about with Runyan.

"I think if you go low on Runyan, he may drop the knee somewhere. So I think you have to stay high and just let him baptize you. That's probably what I would do. You know when you go backwards and your head hits first and you wake up as if somebody baptized you or blessed you? I think that would be Runyan right there, all day, every day."
Philadelphia's Runyan, the only active player in the league who suited up for the Houston Oilers, is in his 13th season. Finnegan has played against the Eagles only once, his rookie season in 2006, and encountered Runyan just once in that game.
"He plays the game at a high level, he's a nasty player," Finnegan said of the 6-7, 330-pound Runyan. "He got his hands on me when we played Philly and he threw me about 25 yards away from the play, and the play wasn't even around me. So I just know if he got his hands on me and he was the lead blocker on a screen that it could be detrimental to my health."

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Is he a RT, LT or both? What's his natural position? What's his best position?

RT

[Kylo Ren]

Wonder who is gonna get released. if we do sign him. One of our 10 LBs.

[ct]

LJ isn't even close to Michael Turner. Maybe Tina, but not Michael.

More like Ike, not Tina. Yea that's right, I said it.

[Micjones]

Found this poll from Espn given to players about a year ago.

sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?page=hotread7/seifert
(can't hyperlink yet....)
Here is the part about John Runyan

Tennessee cornerback Cortland Finnegan would prefer to avoid Eagles offensive tackle Jon Runyan (above). "He's a nasty player," Finnegan says of the 6-7, 330-pound Runyan.
Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan is regarded as a fearless player, aggressive in coverage and against the run. Ask him about a nightmare scenario, and it doesn't take him long to come up with one involving a notorious Philadelphia Eagles tandem.
"A screen with Jon Runyan with [Brian] Westbrook behind him," he said. "One-on-one with Runyan with Westbrook behind him for a touchdown. Oh my goodness. I know I am going to have to go through him if it's for a touchdown. I'm just thinking about what body part I am going to use that could be injured. Shoulder? Neck? Back? Those three things I would be highly worried about with Runyan.

"I think if you go low on Runyan, he may drop the knee somewhere. So I think you have to stay high and just let him baptize you. That's probably what I would do. You know when you go backwards and your head hits first and you wake up as if somebody baptized you or blessed you? I think that would be Runyan right there, all day, every day."
Philadelphia's Runyan, the only active player in the league who suited up for the Houston Oilers, is in his 13th season. Finnegan has played against the Eagles only once, his rookie season in 2006, and encountered Runyan just once in that game.
"He plays the game at a high level, he's a nasty player," Finnegan said of the 6-7, 330-pound Runyan. "He got his hands on me when we played Philly and he threw me about 25 yards away from the play, and the play wasn't even around me. So I just know if he got his hands on me and he was the lead blocker on a screen that it could be detrimental to my health."

LMAO

Damn Cortland. Shine shoes much?

[doomy3]

Let's get him signed. He has been a productive player in the league. I'm sure he is close to done, but if he can buy us at least a year so we can look at the OL again next offseason, I'm all for it.

Not to mention, having a veteran that has had success in the league could be good for guys like O'Calligan and Richardson.

[Reerun_KC]

Great, now we will have more holes in the line for LJ to fall over in...

[Titty Meat]

Theres no reason to carry 4 QBs and only 8 linemen

[ChiefMojo]

I would keep Goff as a back-up if Ike beat him out. Does anyone know if Alleman is challenging Niswanger?

[Kylo Ren]

LT - Albert, O'Callahan
RT - Runyan, Ndukwe
PS - Richardson

Now that would be pretty good.

[Red Coater]

so our O line should be ok. or decent

[JuicesFlowing]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6695/images2pd.jpg

[unothadeal]

Runyan Ave Souljas
http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists/D12/D12-02-big.jpg

[Mr. Arrowhead]

so our O line should be ok. or decent

prolly still below average, but that better than pitiful

[Mr. Krab]

so our O line should be ok. or decent
Runyan is coming off of knee surgery, we just don't know yet. Don't forget we still have Niswanger at center. :huh:

[Hammock Parties]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

[Hammock Parties]

LT - Albert, O'Callahan
RT - Runyan, Ndukwe
PS - Richardson

Now that would be pretty good.

That would suck ass /milkman

[Thig Lyfe]

HECK YEA!!!! He may be old, but at least it is worth the try to see if he still has anything left in the tank.

All he has in his tank are "the ropes."

[Dave Lane]

We are light years from being a decent offense.

Runyon might be a step in the right direction. The rest of the OLine is still pretty horrible.

Adding Runyon gives us how many wins?

Its not about wins its about non killed QBs

[JuicesFlowing]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

The same amount of sacks that Highway 77 allowed?

[Mr. Krab]

LT - Albert
LG - Waters
C - Allerman
RG - Ndukwe
RT - Runyan

[MMXcalibur]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

At this time of year, you've really got to lower your expectations. There's a reason a lot of these players have been cut and are still available....You're just going to have to deal with the fact that every player coming in isn't flawless.

Personally, I applaud Pioli's efforts at trying to shore up a glaring problem area in the efforts of not having our brand new mint QB in a bodybag by Week 2. It's a "quick fix", but again.....Week 1 is 5 days away.

[Just Passin' By]

LT - Albert, O'Callahan
RT - Runyan, Ndukwe
PS - Richardson

Now that would be pretty good.

O'Callaghan is purely a right tackle. He'll get the QB killed if you put him on the left side.

[Mr. Krab]

The same amount of sacks that Highway 77 allowed?<table class="shsTable shsGriddedTable" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="shsTableTtlRow"><td colspan="10">Damien McIntosh
Career Offensive Line Stats</td> </tr><tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Year</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Team</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">G</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">GS</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Pen</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> <td style="width: 10%;" class="shsNumD">False Start</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Holding</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Sacks Allwd</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> </tr><tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2000</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2001</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">20</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">2.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">17.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2002</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">50</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">1.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">20.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2003</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">9</td> <td class="shsNumD">55</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">6.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">52.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2004</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">50</td> <td class="shsNumD">9</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">9.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">46.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2005</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">30</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">4.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">35.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2006</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">25</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">5.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">36.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2007</td> <td class="shsNamD">KC</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">65.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2008</td> <td class="shsNamD">KC</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">56.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td colspan="2" class="shsNamD">Totals</td> <td class="shsNumD">115</td> <td class="shsNumD">111</td> <td class="shsNumD">44</td> <td class="shsNumD">260</td> <td class="shsNumD">35</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">42.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">328.00</td></tr></tbody></table>

[JuicesFlowing]

<table class="shsTable shsGriddedTable" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="shsTableTtlRow"><td colspan="10">Damien McIntosh
Career Offensive Line Stats</td> </tr><tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Year</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Team</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">G</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">GS</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Pen</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> <td style="width: 10%;" class="shsNumD">False Start</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Holding</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Sacks Allwd</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> </tr><tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2000</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2001</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">20</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">2.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">17.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2002</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">50</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">1.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">20.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2003</td> <td class="shsNamD">SD</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">9</td> <td class="shsNumD">55</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">6.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">52.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2004</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">14</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">50</td> <td class="shsNumD">9</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">9.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">46.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2005</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">30</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">4.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">35.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2006</td> <td class="shsNamD">Mia</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">13</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">25</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">5.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">36.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2007</td> <td class="shsNamD">KC</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">65.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2008</td> <td class="shsNamD">KC</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">56.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td colspan="2" class="shsNamD">Totals</td> <td class="shsNumD">115</td> <td class="shsNumD">111</td> <td class="shsNumD">44</td> <td class="shsNumD">260</td> <td class="shsNumD">35</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">42.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">328.00</td></tr></tbody></table>

I mean just last year, but thanks.

And it was a rhetorical question, I knew it was the same.

[HotRoute]

should bring in D. Brooks too. now that Z.thomas was a dud.

[Hammock Parties]

Jesum crow, D-Mac had 9 false starts one year.

[Mr. Krab]

<table class="shsTable shsGriddedTable" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="shsTableTtlRow"><td colspan="10">Todd Runyan

Career Offensive Line Stats</td> </tr><tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Year</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNamD">Team</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">G</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">GS</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Pen</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> <td style="width: 10%;" class="shsNumD">False Start</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Holding</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Sacks Allwd</td> <td style="width: 9%;" class="shsNumD">Yds</td> </tr><tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">1996</td> <td class="shsNamD">Hou</td> <td class="shsNumD">10</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">0.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">1997</td> <td class="shsNamD">Ten</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">40</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">5.75</td> <td class="shsNumD">39.75</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">1998</td> <td class="shsNamD">Ten</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">47</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">6.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">40.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">1999</td> <td class="shsNamD">Ten</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">30</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">4.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">33.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2000</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">25</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">9.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">55.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2001</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">6</td> <td class="shsNumD">45</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">10.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">61.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2002</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">40</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">30.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2003</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">25</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">9.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">59.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2004</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">30</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">6.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">28.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2005</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">7</td> <td class="shsNumD">50</td> <td class="shsNumD">5</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">4.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">15.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2006</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">4</td> <td class="shsNumD">25</td> <td class="shsNumD">3</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">6.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">40.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow1Row"><td class="shsNamD">2007</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">0</td> <td class="shsNumD">5.50</td> <td class="shsNumD">13.50</td> </tr> <tr class="shsRow0Row"><td class="shsNamD">2008</td> <td class="shsNamD">Phi</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">16</td> <td class="shsNumD">2</td> <td class="shsNumD">15</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">1</td> <td class="shsNumD">7.00</td> <td class="shsNumD">48.00</td> </tr> <tr class="shsColTtlRow"><td colspan="2" class="shsNamD">Totals</td> <td class="shsNumD">202</td> <td class="shsNumD">192</td> <td class="shsNumD">49</td> <td class="shsNumD">377</td> <td class="shsNumD">29</td> <td class="shsNumD">12</td> <td class="shsNumD">80.25</td> <td class="shsNumD">463.75</td> </tr></tbody></table>

[ChiefMojo]

The biggest difference between Runyan and Sackintosh is that Runyan can still block his a$$ off when it comes to run plays. At this point in time, we have to do what we can when it comes to pass blocking. I would still take Runyan pass blocking than Sackintosh!

[Hammock Parties]

What is it with the Chiefs and right tackles named John?

John Tait
John Welbourn
Jon Runyan

[Mr. Krab]

I mean just last year, but thanks.

And it was a rhetorical question, I knew it was the same.
bastard

see if i ever answer a dam post from you. :harumph:



:p

[kstater]

MOTHER FUCK SCOTT PIOLI

[KevB]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

I wonder if his ailing knee was part of the problem.....(clearly a glass half full view of things).

[JuicesFlowing]

bastard

see if i ever answer a dam post from you. :harumph:



:p

No, I'll be more specific next time. Appreciate the charts you posted though.

[BigRock]

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

You have to consider that he played most of the season on the knee injury he needed the surgery for. It wasn't like he blew out his knee all of a sudden, it was an ongoing problem he dealt with.

But with that in mind, I don't think it should be a huge surprise if he doesn't pass his physical.

[tonyetony]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

Yeah but they probably wern't the total whiff-bonecrushing-career ending type of sacks that 77 was capable of consistantly allowing.

[AustinChief]

ok, I have mentioned before that I would love to see Runyan in KC...

I decided to start my own thread about it... because... well... I can.

So, here are my reasons why...

#1 all the obvious reasons... he is a pro bowler, proven player, definite upgrade, etc etc

#2 another fairly obvious one... Ndukwe would be better used at RG and this would let him move there.

#3 now we get to the good stuff... ON THE FIELD he is a nasty, mean, dirty S.O.B.

#4 OFF THE FIELD, he is a stand up guy, nice etc...

IF he can give us 2 solid years, he is well worth the investment until we can groom someone to replace him... MOST IMPORTANTLY he sets a perfect example of what our linemen of the future should aspire to be.

[kstater]

The mod's limit this guy's thread starting abilities. :p

[talastan]

Yeah but they probably wern't the total whiff-bonecrushing-career ending type of sacks that 77 was capable of consistantly allowing.

Yep just ask Hutard or Brokie about their opinion of who they'd want, Runyan or Sack o crap!

[AustinChief]

Here is Jon breaking down the Pats D... sorta...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d8057fee0/WK-17-Playbook-Exclusive-Jon-Runyan

[L.A. Chieffan]

hes other teams trash! traash!

[BigChiefFan]

I hope there's still some gas left in the tank, but switching out McInSOFT for Runyan would be a major feather in Pioli's cap. I hope we sign him and he kick ass and takes names.

[wild1]

You have to consider that he played most of the season on the knee injury he needed the surgery for. It wasn't like he blew out his knee all of a sudden, it was an ongoing problem he dealt with.

But with that in mind, I don't think it should be a huge surprise if he doesn't pass his physical.

Even if those were the eventual number of sacks, Damion "Spin Cycle" McIntosh let plenty of rushers through over and above his sack total. (like, all of them) Whether that man got a sack, a hurry, a knockdown, forced a bad throw, was blocked by a RB, made the QB scramble, etc. - all those things are not included in the sack total, but still reflect poorly on him.

So just like how you might come to believe McIntosh is a decent pass protector as some around here do (GoChiefs), you could only get that impression by googling stats and not knowing anything else.

[JOhn]

Not another n00b repost?



err ohhh wait, never mind :p



btw I love these
#3 now we get to the good stuff... ON THE FIELD he is a nasty, mean, dirty S.O.B.

#4 OFF THE FIELD, he is a stand up guy, nice etc...

[Bill Lundberg]

Question: Has there been anyone we that was brought in for a look that we found out about that didn't sign?

Toomer - Check
Lelie - Check
Runyan - Check?

[RJ]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...


If he were "great" he wouldn't be in KC for a workout.

[Simply Red]

what's his age?

[ModSocks]

Here is Jon breaking down the Pats D... sorta...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d8057fee0/WK-17-Playbook-Exclusive-Jon-Runyan

Wow. That was so insightful.

[tonyetony]

Its not about wins its about non killed QBs

Exactly. This offense will make 0 progress if we have to revert back to a third string QB running the offense.

[Simply Red]

hes other teams trash! traash!

Rebuilding get over it.

[BigRedChief]

what's his age?
Does it matter? Can he be worse than the scubs we got now?

[Warrior5]

Short term solution, but he's better with a gimp than our current RT options.


I guess if he's in town, it's good to know that the Chiefs aren't the team he wouldn't play for...

LMAO

[AustinChief]

Wow. That was so insightful.

Yeah, hence the sorta... they didn't ask him to do much there... but he is a pretty bright guy, trust me.

[milkman]

I Jon Runyan is healthy, he's as solid a RT as you'll find in the NFL.

[AustinChief]

Does it matter? Can he be worse than the scubs we got now?

Exactly, if we had ANYBODY that was DECENT and we could HOPE would improve... I wouldn't push so hard for Runyan... but fact is... he is our best option right now.

[milkman]

Exactly, if we had ANYBODY that was DECENT and we could HOPE would improve... I wouldn't push so hard for Runyan... but fact is... he is our best option right now.

Not only that, but this is a guy that could, if healthy, man the position more than adequately while also actually being a mentor to a young up and comer.

[bevischief]

Deal is done.

[BigMeatballDave]

Wonder who is gonna get released. if we do sign him.Does it really matter?

[bevischief]

very much this

:thumb:

[WilliamTheIrish]

http://uk.hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=3666&team=21&page=enc

7 sacks allowed last year.....not great...

Think of the quality of division opponents he lined up against last season.

[BigRock]

Question: Has there been anyone we that was brought in for a look that we found out about that didn't sign?

Toomer - Check
Lelie - Check
Runyan - Check?

They worked out Marty Booker and some others back during minicamps who never got signed. Then there were guys like Engram who were here and left and didn't actually sign until a few weeks later, though that probably wouldn't happen with Runyan.

[bevischief]

I'd keep Goff as a reserve Lineman, but I tend to agree.

:thumb:

[bevischief]

Exactly. This offense will make 0 progress if we have to revert back to a third string QB running the offense.

:thumb:

[tonyetony]

If we signed him today how long do you think it will take to get him on the field?

[CoMoChief]

IF he's healthy......

Of course it would suck if this turned into another Kyle Turley situation.

[Micjones]

You have to consider that he played most of the season on the knee injury he needed the surgery for. It wasn't like he blew out his knee all of a sudden, it was an ongoing problem he dealt with.

But with that in mind, I don't think it should be a huge surprise if he doesn't pass his physical.

He was just medically cleared, no?

[BigRock]

He was just medically cleared, no?

He was cleared by his doctors to practice and such. But I haven't heard of him taking any physicals with teams yet. He's in his mid 30's with bad knees coming off microfracture surgery, I'm just saying it shouldn't be a shock if he doesn't check out.

[AustinChief]

Quotes from Strahan and Runyan



"Holds a lot," said Strahan of Runyan, laughing. "Extremely strong. Competitive, and probably the one guy that I've played who probably stokes my fire just about more than anyone else." "It's not holding until it gets called," Runyan countered. "You can't hold him anyway, because I think his jersey is painted on."

"The biggest thing," Runyan said, "is to get hands on people. I have athletic ability, but I'm not the most athletic tackle out there. I was big in math and sciences in school; those things came easy to me. I just play the geometry game, play the angles, get in front of them and take away their angles."

[R&GHomer]

How extensive was the knee injury? Dude is what 36? I don't give a shit, if he's an upgrade sign his ass and move dooky to RG. Dare I say it.... This gives me hope

Edit: Say what you will about Pioli, but at least he's trying to fix a glaring weakness! Peterson would be sitting on his sorry ass pretending everything was just peachy.

[Micjones]

He was cleared by his doctors to practice and such. But I haven't heard of him taking any physicals with teams yet. He's in his mid 30's with bad knees coming off microfracture surgery, I'm just saying it shouldn't be a shock if he doesn't check out.

Gotcha. I thought maybe he might've already been tested out...

[orange]

... MOST IMPORTANTLY he sets a perfect example of what our linemen of the future should aspire to be.

Old and brokedown?

[chiefzilla1501]

At this time of year, you've really got to lower your expectations. There's a reason a lot of these players have been cut and are still available....You're just going to have to deal with the fact that every player coming in isn't flawless.

Personally, I applaud Pioli's efforts at trying to shore up a glaring problem area in the efforts of not having our brand new mint QB in a bodybag by Week 2. It's a "quick fix", but again.....Week 1 is 5 days away.

Yup. Keep in mind that the Eagles have a long, long, long history of not signing players over 30.

[TRR]

The problem with signing Runyan this late is that he is guaranteed out of shape, and will need weeks to even think about competing IMO. A guy like O'Callaghan has been with a team, practicing and playing with a team. Same goes for a guy like Langston Walker. Runyan if signed, will take quite awhile to make an impact IMO.
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[jAZ]

Here is Jon breaking down the Pats D... sorta...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d8057fee0/WK-17-Playbook-Exclusive-Jon-Runyan

If that's the nature of our new defense, then can someone please start a 4th Runyan thread so we can educate the Planet now about why we are playing so far off the WRs and how come we are letting them have so many 12 yard pass plays?

I'm already sick of the bitching about it, and I'm only imagining it at this point. :)

[AustinChief]

Old and brokedown?

hard working, massive mean streak and attitude when playing and a model citizen when not.

[Hammock Parties]

You know if Runyan can still drive a guy off the ball and Ndukwe or Alleman step up at guard, we could potentially have a very good running game this year. Bring in O'Callaghan as a "tight end" in jumbo formations.

[JohnnyV13]

What is it with the Chiefs and right tackles named John?

John Tait
John Welbourn
Jon Runyan

You forgot John Alt.

[tonyetony]

Old and brokedown?

So you hope. If he's not brokedown we'll have to endure your whining about Runyan getting away with holding when we beat you guys twice for half of our wins this year.

[nychief]

The problem with signing Runyan this late is that he is guaranteed out of shape, and will need weeks to even think about competing IMO. A guy like O'Callaghan has been with a team, practicing and playing with a team. Same goes for a guy like Langston Walker. Runyan if signed, will take quite awhile to make an impact IMO.
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good points, all. I guess we'll see soon enough, one way or another.

[DJ's left nut]

We need to wait for the Patriots to sign, then cut him.

Then he'll be Pioli material.

[Mecca]

If the Chiefs make moves that get Goff and Niswanger off the field that alone would help the line.

[nychief]

You forgot John Alt.

Alt played LT.

[JohnnyV13]

Jesum crow, D-Mac had 9 false starts one year.

And gave up 9 sacks. Dude was owned that year.

[LaChapelle]

I don't know this website and the thread starter has a whopping 3 posts. Any other outlets reporting this.

[AustinChief]

If the Chiefs make moves that get Goff and Niswanger off the field that alone would help the line.

Hear, hear (or should I say "here, here" just to give it a ChiefsPlanet spelling?)

[Halfcan]

Hey, Willie Roaf was an injured, old veteran too.

yep that is for sure

[KC Dan]

MAKE IT SO, #1!!!

[orange]

So you hope. If he's not brokedown we'll have to endure your whining about Runyan getting away with holding when we beat you guys twice for half of our wins this year.

I'll bet he's every bit as good as Kyle Turley for you guys. :thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

I'll bet he's every bit as good as Kyle Turley for you guys. :thumb:

Kyle Turley was 270 fucking pounds, moron.

[The Franchise]

Please God sign this guy.

LT - Albert
LG - Waters
C - Niswanger
RG - Ndukwe
RT - Runyan

Next up on the chopping block......Niswanger! Please...somebody cut a center!

[tonyetony]

I'll bet he's every bit as good as Kyle Turley for you guys. :thumb:

Kyle Orton LMAOLMAOLMAOROFL You have your own Kyle now bitch!

[orange]

Kyle Turley was 270 ****ing pounds, moron.

Kyle Turley
Height: 6-5 Weight: 306 Age: 33
Born: 9/24/1975 Provo , UT
College: San Diego State
Experience: 9 Seasons


He played light for the Chiefs because he was old and brokedown... like Runyan.


... er, except not nearly as old as Runyan. Sorry.

[CoMoChief]

I'll bet he's every bit as good as Kyle Turley for you guys. :thumb:

I love your guys' offseason thus far. Just FYI

[Hammock Parties]

Kyle Turley
Height: 6-5 Weight: 306 Age: 33
Born: 9/24/1975 Provo , UT
College: San Diego State
Experience: 9 Seasons


He played light for the Chiefs because he was old and brokedown... like Runyan.


... er, except not nearly as old as Runyan. Sorry.

He was 270 fucking pounds when he was in Kansas City. He couldn't block for shit.

There is no comparison.

[ChiefMojo]

JKSJFD:KFJKFJDFKD!!!!! Kyle Turley was the 270-pounds of bad back when he played for Kansas City. He wasn't the 305-pound helmet throwing monster for the Saints when he was in KC.

[nychief]

Turley was also trying to be Tight End, no?

[orange]

He was 270 ****ing pounds when he was in Kansas City. He couldn't block for shit.

There is no comparison.

JKSJFD:KFJKFJDFKD!!!!! Kyle Turley was the 270-pounds of bad back when he played for Kansas City. He wasn't the 305-pound helmet throwing monster for the Saints when he was in KC.

On June 6, 2005, Turley was released by the Rams and spent the entire 2005 season out of football due to the effects of sciatic nerve damage that also atrophied his right leg. After initially dropping 65 pounds from his 300-pound frame, Turley had gotten back to around the 265 mark in hopes of switching positions, possibly moving to defensive end, and relieving pressure on his back.

On May 5, 2006, Turley began a 3-day tryout with the Miami Dolphins. Hoping to rejoin the NFL as a tight end, reported to minicamp weighing 260 pounds.


Kansas City Chiefs
On June 11, 2006, it was announced that Turley signed a two-year contract with the Kansas City Chiefs. Turley has regained his previous weight and has been so impressive in training camp that had been expected to be the opening-day starting right tackle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Turley




Of course, I have NO idea how much he weighed when he was on top of you in bed.

[Hammock Parties]

Orange, shut the fuck up. I don't care what he was listed at. He was nowhere close to 300 pounds. Consequently, he couldn't drive anyone off the ball and got pushed into the quarterback half the time by bull rushers.

The situation in no way compares to Runyan.

[Messier]

On June 6, 2005, Turley was released by the Rams and spent the entire 2005 season out of football due to the effects of sciatic nerve damage that also atrophied his right leg. After initially dropping 65 pounds from his 300-pound frame, Turley had gotten back to around the 265 mark in hopes of switching positions, possibly moving to defensive end, and relieving pressure on his back.

On May 5, 2006, Turley began a 3-day tryout with the Miami Dolphins. Hoping to rejoin the NFL as a tight end, reported to minicamp weighing 260 pounds.


Kansas City Chiefs
[B]On June 11, 2006, it was announced that Turley signed a two-year contract with the Kansas City Chiefs. Turley has regained his previous weight and has been so impressive in training camp that had been expected to be the opening-day starting right tackle.[B]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Turley




Of course, I have NO idea how much he weighed when he was on top of you in bed.

I don't see anything about Kyle Orton in there.

[RustShack]

Turley was trying out of teams as a TE when we signed him as a RT. He was playing light with us and they tried getting him to put weight back on which his back just couldn't handle.. Turley doesn't compare to Runyan in anyway.

[the Talking Can]

i am so sick of patriot castoffs, plus pioli isn't doing anything....

[Dante84]

Hey all... just getting home from work. I am late to the party.

Sooo.... Runyan IS in town for a workout? This isn't just pure speculation stuff?

Because if I need to call my buddy, the real estate agent, and find out if Runyan has bought a house, or a Z-Man from Okie-Joes, I can do that. I have that kind of power.

But seriously- he's in town?

[boogblaster]

We'll take any decent OLman old or young ...

[RustShack]

i am so sick of patriot castoffs, plus pioli isn't doing anything....

I'm assuming your joking, but I love how people get mad that we sign players Pioli knows who happen to play for the most talented team in the NFL... I mean do they want us to sign cut players from a less talented team like Detroit or what?

[lostcause]

On June 6, 2005, Turley was released by the Rams and spent the entire 2005 season out of football due to the effects of sciatic nerve damage that also atrophied his right leg. After initially dropping 65 pounds from his 300-pound frame, Turley had gotten back to around the 265 mark in hopes of switching positions, possibly moving to defensive end, and relieving pressure on his back.

On May 5, 2006, Turley began a 3-day tryout with the Miami Dolphins. Hoping to rejoin the NFL as a tight end, reported to minicamp weighing 260 pounds.


Kansas City Chiefs
On June 11, 2006, it was announced that Turley signed a two-year contract with the Kansas City Chiefs. Turley has regained his previous weight and has been so impressive in training camp that had been expected to be the opening-day starting right tackle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Turley




Of course, I have NO idea how much he weighed when he was on top of you in bed.

And if it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.... but Turley was a disaster in KC, I'll grant you. However, he NEVER EVER NOT ONCE threw a left handed pick in the end zone.

[LaChapelle]

Hey all... just getting home from work. I am late to the party.

Sooo.... Runyan IS in town for a workout? This isn't just pure speculation stuff?

Because if I need to call my buddy, the real estate agent, and find out if Runyan has bought a house, or a Z-Man from Okie-Joes, I can do that. I have that kind of power.

But seriously- he's in town?

A guy with 3 posts starts a thread that Runyan was in town. Posting a website I've not heard of as confirmation :shrug:
Then threads were combined.

[Dante84]

A guy with 3 posts starts a thread that Runyan was in town. Posting a website I've not heard of as confirmation :shrug:

Thank you.

So, um, did he at least provide a link?

PS- this is post #500 for me.

BITCH TITS!!!!!

I wanted to do that for a while now. Thanks.

[LaChapelle]

It got lost in the thread consolidation(link). It's in there somewhere.

[WildTurkey]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Source-says-Chiefs-checking-out-Runyan.html

[orange]

And if it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.... but Turley was a disaster in KC, I'll grant you. However, he NEVER EVER NOT ONCE threw a left handed pick in the end zone.

... in a pre-season game on 4th down.

If that turns out to be the highlight of Chiefs Fans' season - :sulk:

[Dante84]

Jon Runyan could be close to landing work.

A league source said that the veteran offensive tackle is in Kansas City right now for a workout.

He has recently been cleared to return to football following knee surgery.

Follow me on Twitter: BradBiggs


Anyone know any jazz about this "BradBiggs" character? Sounds like a pornstar name to me. Because my name is Brad. And because my peen is Biggs.

[Titty Meat]

Carl and Pioli have alot in common

[lostcause]

... in a pre-season game on 4th down.

If that turns out to be the highlight of Chiefs Fans' season - :sulk:

Well currently, outside of Tamba Hali being able to rush the passer in preseason, it's definitely one of mine. =)

[Mr. Krab]

hard working, massive mean streak and attitude when playing and a model citizen when not.
That's it, now if Runyan doesn't work out we can now all go around yelling

Damnit Austin! :cuss:

[Tiger's Fan]

This sounds like a Carl move
Carl would do something like this.
Why didn't we just keep Carl?
Did he play for UCLA? Is Carl still here?
Carl never struck out this many times in 6 months.
Carl>Pioli x 1000000000000000

And on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows.

We could sign the 03 Chiefs O-line and the same handful of girls would bitch and complain about it. It never gets old. Oh, and Pioli must be on vacation permanently.

[AustinChief]

That's it, now if Runyan doesn't work out we can now all go around yelling

Damnit Austin! :cuss:

If he passes the physical and signs with us... yes you can.

[SAUTO]

Not only that, but this is a guy that could, if healthy, man the position more than adequately while also actually being a mentor to a young up and comer.

maybe he's just what richardson needs, mean nasty are not words that go with rich so far

[WilliamTheIrish]

maybe he's just what richardson needs, mean nasty are not words that go with rich so far

If you play RT in the NFC East, you better be mean and nasty.

[SAUTO]

If you play RT in the NFC East, you better be mean and nasty.

i know. maybe that will rub off on rich

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Don't feel like going thru this entire thread.

What is the status of Runyan? Is he really working out for us?

Cliff notes...? :D

[chiefzilla1501]

Kyle Turley
Height: 6-5 Weight: 306 Age: 33
Born: 9/24/1975 Provo , UT
College: San Diego State
Experience: 9 Seasons


He played light for the Chiefs because he was old and brokedown... like Runyan.


... er, except not nearly as old as Runyan. Sorry.

A few big differences.

Turley was forced to lose weight because he had major back injuries and there was fear that he couldn't carry a heavy weight anymore.

Turley was never really that good. Even in New Orleans and St. Louis, he had a few games where he played well and quite a few where he was flat-out dominated.

It's a gamble for sure. But it's not nearly the same kind of ill-advised gamble as relying on Kyle Turley.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This is a wise move. I think Runyan's probably a broke dick dog, but if he's not, he'd be a major upgrade. We still have four OL spots that need long term solutions, but if it helps Cassel survive this year, it's worth it.

[LaChapelle]

Don't feel like going thru this entire thread.

What is the status of Runyan? Is he really working out for us?

Cliff notes...? :D

Haley told him he could pick 22 guys off the Raider team in better shape than he was. He got pissed off and left in a Dolphin Jet.

[wild1]

This is a wise move. I think Runyan's probably a broke dick dog, but if he's not, he'd be a major upgrade. We still have four OL spots that need long term solutions, but if it helps Cassel survive this year, it's worth it.

That is how I feel. This is your textbook situation for a stopgap. If he doesn't work out, we're only back where we were.

[OnTheWarpath15]

This is a wise move. I think Runyan's probably a broke dick dog, but if he's not, he'd be a major upgrade. We still have four OL spots that need long term solutions, but if it helps Cassel survive this year, it's worth it.

This.

I'm not expecting much from him, but if he proves me wrong, it would be a good move.

Now we wait to see if we actually sign him.

[googlegoogle]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=old+broke+dick+dog

[milkman]

I'm assuming your joking, but I love how people get mad that we sign players Pioli knows who happen to play for the most talented team in the NFL... I mean do they want us to sign cut players from a less talented team like Detroit or what?

Pioli is signing Steelers?

[J Diddy]

Pioli is signing Steelers?


Yeah. Don't you read, he's gonna sign hampton.

[Chieftain58]

AWESOME! Make it happen!............

[The Bad Guy]

My friend who is an Eagle fan said that Runyan was flat out awesome last year. I think it's a major upgrade regardless if he has no legs.

[KCrockaholic]

My friend who is an Eagle fan said that Runyan was flat out awesome last year. I think it's a major upgrade regardless if he has no legs.

Is he a diehard Eagles fan or just casual? Sometimes fans dont have a clue what they are talking about so they talk up a guy with a famous name because he doesnt know any better. Runyan did allow as many sacks as McIntosh last year as far as I know.

[BigChiefFan]

Runyan HAS NEVER MISSED A GAME since he was a HOUSTON OILER. Think about that for a minute.

[Red Dawg]

Turner doesn't really have to do anything to be better than LJ, to be honest.

Johnson has fallen off the cliff is no longer a starting caliber RB in this league.

The only problem with LJ is the line is no good anymore. This is the case with most RB's Give them a solid line and they will get tons of yards.

[petegz28]

bla bla bla....all this talk about how good Runyan is and we probably won't be able to sign him

[Easy 6]

This would be so huge, getting us pretty well set at RT, for 09 atleast...a solid vet to start & a decent young prospect to backup.

[The Bad Guy]

Is he a diehard Eagles fan or just casual? Sometimes fans dont have a clue what they are talking about so they talk up a guy with a famous name because he doesnt know any better. Runyan did allow as many sacks as McIntosh last year as far as I know.

He's a huge diehard fan.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Hope is rekindled!



http://puredanger.com/techfiles/080911/gandalf-the-white.jpg

Come on Carloli, SIGN HIM!

[TRR]

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running. I would think that Runyan would be pretty far off from contributing in a starting manner until later in the season.

Runyan would be a good player to sign, but not an automatic fix as he hasn't even been in pads since the final Philadelphia game last season. He has just been rehabbing his knee. I honestly don't think we will have a consistent line until after the bye week.

[Chiefs=Champions]

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running.


I dont think thats a reason not to sign him though.. I mean he is playing tackle after all not WR...

[chefsos]

I dont think thats a reason not to sign him though.. I mean he is playing tackle after all not WR...
Or, hopefully, not chasing a guy he should have blocked like Umguna Kikbuti (sp?) in that Rams game there.

[Mr. Krab]

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running. I would think that Runyan would be pretty far off from contributing in a starting manner until later in the season.

Runyan would be a good player to sign, but not an automatic fix as he hasn't even been in pads since the final Philadelphia game last season. He has just been rehabbing his knee. I honestly don't think we will have a consistent line until after the bye week.
Which means we probably won't sign him until after the Raven's game. He won't get guaranteed contract that way either.

[Easy 6]

it can't be us, the experts said pioli has done nothing for weeks except play Fallout 3

:LOL: