Have The Chiefs Taken A Step Backwards?

[Hammock Parties]

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Don’t let the final score of Kansas City’s thrilling, 38-24 loss to the Ravens fool you. Despite the fact the Chiefs treated us to a whirlwind of emotions and flirted with a huge upset, there were no surprises inside Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium Sunday. Only confirmations.

There’s no question the Chiefs were completely overmatched against the Ravens. Haloti Ngata (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4431593) and Ray Lewis (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4352775) blew up Kansas City’s running game. Terrell Suggs (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4431397) and Jarret Johnson breathed down Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307425)’s neck all afternoon. Kansas City made Joe Flacco (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4431354) look like Peyton Manning (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4217520). Ray Rice (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4431643) darted and juked his way to 108 yards, rarely lacking for running room.

The Chiefs did earn a small victory, as Dustin Colquitt (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307414) out-punted Sam Koch by a wide margin. Otherwise, the Ravens clearly had an enormous advantage and pressed it at every turn. Baltimore was aggressive on offense and defense and outgained Kansas City 501 to 188 in total yardage.

Surprising? Not at all. The Chiefs are who we thought they were.

That they managed to stay in the game with two fluke plays – a blocked punt for a touchdown and a 70-yard interception return – was surprising, if not admirable. But make no mistake – those two plays were complete flukes, the kind usually reserved for the first mistake-filled week of NFL action.

On Jon McGraw (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4224701)’s punt block, no one elected to stop him. This was not a Herculean one-man effort, ala the departed Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307543) (thank you for that, by the way, Mr. Pioli). McGraw simply ran up the middle of Baltimore’s protection, completely untouched, and dove at the punter. Does that sound like something the Chiefs can count on every week to you? Improbable.

When Derrick Johnson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307508) stole Baltimore’s momentum with his interception midway through the third quarter, it was an unforced error. Flacco was under absolutely zero pressure, as was the case most of the afternoon. He was throwing to a wide open receiver, who stood a decent chance at gaining a first down on yet another third and long (the Chiefs gave up several Sunday).

Flacco simply missed Johnson floating over from the right side of the field. He probably won’t make that mistake again all year, and it’s doubtful any of the experienced quarterbacks the Chiefs face down the road – Donovan McNabb (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4347397), Tony Romo (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4354171), Ben Roethlisberger (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4314026), Philip Rivers (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4189320), Eli Manning (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4208108), Carson Palmer (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4223564) – will commit the same error.

Flukes.

Other than those two admittedly inspiring and spectacular plays, the Chiefs were headed for a pitiful 38-10 loss. Even the Baltimore Sun, Maryland’s premier fishwrap, did not foresee such epic domination by the hometown team, predicting a 17-0 shutout of the Chiefs. As negative as Warpaint Illustrated’s own preview of Week 1 was, our 24-10 prediction pales in comparison to what Sunday could have been, had the Chiefs not stumbled upon good fortune.

The point is this – there is no question the 2009 Chiefs are an absolutely terrible football team. For 60 minutes Sunday, the Ravens had their way with them. At one point, Kansas City even struggled to snap the ball.

It’s true. After the Ravens’ defense called a timeout early in the contest, the Chiefs’ offense responded with one of their own before running another play. Croyle looked lost, head coach Todd Haley looked livid, and the Chiefs in general looked lame. It wasn’t surprising that despite the time out, on the ensuing snap Croyle threw an ill-advised pass short of the first-down marker.

It was a bad football team, doing what bad football teams do.

Kansas City converted only two third downs and ran just five plays that gained over 10 yards. Those are numbers that make even Herm Edwards puke. In fact, if Herm was watching in the first quarter, he was probably chuckling at the struggles the Chiefs went through just to get a first down.

So there’s no question at this point. The Chiefs are not really an improved football team. They are terrible. Apart from some tremendous, impressive exercises in kicking the football, the Chiefs did nothing with any consistency Sunday. The running game was a mess, the passing game was an exercise in desperation, the defense gashed.

For all the mystery surrounding Kansas City before kickoff, there was little advantage to be gained from it. You might say the Ravens started the game knowing little about the Chiefs, and ended the game knowing the Chiefs could do little.

Now here’s what’s really going to get you down - are the 2009 Chiefs actually inferior to the 2008 squad? It’s quite possible.

Dwayne Bowe (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307406) was noticeably absent from the Chiefs’ attack Sunday (just four catches). Without Tony Gonzalez drawing coverage, we’re going to find out quickly if Bowe is the top receiver Haley wants him to be. Sunday, Bowe was covered for much of the afternoon by Baltimore’s Domonique Foxworth, whom the Chiefs used to torch when he played with the Broncos.

I don’t think Foxworth turned into Champ Bailey (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249807) overnight. What happened to Bowe? Can he beat Oakland’s Pro Bowl corner, Nnamdi Asomugha (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249000), next week? We’ll see.

Bowe’s offensive teammate, Branden Albert (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307400), had a terrible game Sunday. Had Croyle not released the ball quickly on several occasions, Albert might have been beaten for two or three sacks instead of just one.

If Bowe’s production slips while Albert experiences a sophomore slump and the Chiefs’ running game is stuffed, the offense gets really ugly. If the defense continues to get gashed (there are more far more productive offenses yet to come on KC’s schedule), it adds up to a huge step backwards.

But don’t get too depressed. The Chiefs are obviously going to play with a lot of heart, and Haley’s laser-like focus and determination has them headed in the right direction. Beating the Raiders next week is a distinct possibility.

Just don’t count on a lot of long interception returns and blocked punts leading to drama-filled fourth quarters. This team is still struggling to snap the ball.

[teedubya]

meh

[harpes]

I know a lot of people are saying we improved and better than expected but the stats give us something to worry about. In 2008 we averaged giving up 393 yards and today we were at 500. 2008 we averaged 308 yards offense and today just over 200. 2008 we averaged giving up 2.3 sacks and today we gave up 3. On the same path to setting a new low in sacks. I know we played a tuff defense but when LJ only has 20 yards rushing, we cant put pressure on the QB and giving up big plays, I just didnt see something that makes want to buy my playoff tickets yet.

[Silock]

Meh, I think that's bullshit. As long as you're out there giving it your all, all-game long, every game day, you ALWAYS have a chance to win.

So, I think the premise of this article is wrong. Yeah, we're a bad football team, but we're better than we were. And we're trying to get better. And we don't quit. It won't change overnight.

[FloridaMan88]

Being free from Herm and Dictator Carl is a giant step forward

[teedubya]

Being free from Herm and Dictator Carl is a giant step forward

AND A GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND!!!11one

[Reerun_KC]

I know a lot of people are saying we improved and better than expected but the stats give us something to worry about. In 2008 we averaged giving up 393 yards and today we were at 500. 2008 we averaged 308 yards offense and today just over 200. 2008 we averaged giving up 2.3 sacks and today we gave up 3. On the same path to setting a new low in sacks. I know we played a tuff defense but when LJ only has 20 yards rushing, we cant put pressure on the QB and giving up big plays, I just didnt see something that makes want to buy my playoff tickets yet.

Dude no body said anything about the playoffs... ITS about moving forward and building a football team..

Jesus some Chiefs fans are complete murons!

[Hammock Parties]

Jesus some Chiefs fans are complete murons!

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[kcxiv]

what happend to Bowe was Croyle had about .5 seconds to throw the ball pretty much all day long the 1 nice drive we did have, Bowe had 2 catches. lol

Boo for the writer of this article. i dont know how wrote it, it doesnt say on this page.

[Mecca]

The offensive stuff I wouldn't worry about everyone thought they'd get killed there, giving up 500 yards to Baltimore is another story though.

[Reerun_KC]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2r2sxee.jpg


See even Haley agrees!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Meh, I think that's bullshit. As long as you're out there giving it your all, all-game long, every game day, you ALWAYS have a chance to win.

So, I think the premise of this article is wrong. Yeah, we're a bad football team, but we're better than we were. And we're trying to get better. And we don't quit. It won't change overnight.

Are we better conditioned? Yes
Do we have more heart? Probably
Do we have better talent? Doubtful.

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.

[Silock]

Are we better conditioned? Yes
Do we have more heart? Probably
Do we have better talent? Doubtful.

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.


Even having a penny is better than not, even though you can't buy anything with it.

[Hammock Parties]

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.

I think we definitely took a step backwards.

No Tony G.

We scrapped the spread, ruining any sense of offensive consistency.

We did those things because Tony G and the spread, while perhaps productive to a degree, weren't leading us anywhere.

One step forward, two steps back.

(the defense just sucks)

[Reerun_KC]

Are we better conditioned? Yes
Do we have more heart? Probably
Do we have better talent? Doubtful.

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.

We have complete shit for DL, drafting losers from LSU doesnt help... Our LB's arent that good and our secondary without flowers and especially our Safties are dog shit..

I was surprised they kept the Chiefs in the game late into the 4th qtr, regardless of the meaningless stats...

[DeezNutz]

We don't quit and we play with much heart...as of week fucking one. One.

Let's see if this is true in week 12 if the season is in the shitter.

But I doubt we'll have to cross this bridge, since we'll be 9-3 and on the upswing.

[kcpasco]

We have complete shit for DL, drafting losers from LSU doesnt help... Our LB's arent that good and our secondary without flowers and especially our Safties are dog shit..

I was surprised they kept the Chiefs in the game late into the 4th qtr, regardless of the meaningless stats...

Are you saying Jackson is already shit?

[DeezNutz]

We have complete shit for DL, drafting losers from LSU doesnt help... Our LB's arent that good and our secondary without flowers and especially our Safties are dog shit..

I was surprised they kept the Chiefs in the game late into the 4th qtr, regardless of the meaningless stats...

The D kept the Chiefs in the game?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

the blocked punt a fluke play? maybe. but how is an interception a fluke play? that makes no sense.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's a two win team on talent. It may be a ten win team on heart. If it is, we'll probably end up with 4.

[Mecca]

I wasn't aware giving up 500 yards was how you kept yourself in the game...and yea I wanna see if the heart is still there if they're like 1-8.

[DeezNutz]

the blocked punt a fluke play? maybe. but how is an interception a fluke play? that makes no sense.

http://lindseyreadenobles.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/texas-flag.jpg

[Reerun_KC]

Are you saying Jackson is already shit?

Not a big fan of Lazy state U players... Time will tell, but if his work ethic is anything like the rest of them... We all will be singing a different tune in a year or so...

[Mama Hip Rockets]

http://lindseyreadenobles.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/texas-flag.jpg

i don't know what that means.

[Reerun_KC]

The D kept the Chiefs in the game?

Last I checked it was 24-24 with under 8 to go in the 4th...

Someone kept the Chiefs in the game, offense/Defense/ ST's... Take a pick...

[DeezNutz]

i don't know what that means.

It means that Johnson has met his play quota for the month.

[keg in kc]

Starting quarterback was out, so we had a backup running an offense that was literally installed two weeks ago against one of the top 3 defenses in the league on their home field, where they averaged something like 10 points allowed per game in 2008.

I'm shocked that we didn't light it up. Shocked, I tell you.

The defense is a ton of primarily young players learning new roles and responsibilities.

I don't know about anybody else, but I can't realistically gauge whether this team has taken any step in any direction at this point. Ask me again around week 6, and then again around week 12.

[Reerun_KC]

I wasn't aware giving up 500 yards was how you kept yourself in the game...and yea I wanna see if the heart is still there if they're like 1-8.

What if they gave up 502 yards and won the game? What would you be saying then?

Shit the Chiefs used to put up monster #'s on offense and would lose games...

Yes I know it is alot of yards, but some of those drives ended in FG's or missed FG's....

[Mama Hip Rockets]

It means that Johnson has met his play quota for the month.

doesn't matter whether it's johnson or someone else. an interception isn't a fluke. what a stupid idea.

[T-post Tom]

Tightly woven little yarn there, Mr. GoChiefs. I disagree with a good number (not all) of the assumptions and inferences, but you did a nice job writing it.

As for "flukes", Jon McGraw said that ST coach Steve Hoffman saw a weakness in Baltimore's punt protection and created a special punt rush to exploit it. Not my definition of a fluke.

[DeezNutz]

What if they gave up 502 yards and won the game? What would you be saying then?

Shit the Chiefs used to put up monster #'s on offense and would lose games...

Yes I know it is alot of yards, but some of those drives ended in FG's or missed FG's....

http://www.fleetfeetsyracuse.com/newsletters/beatapril18-05/GregRobinson.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

It means that Johnson has met his play quota for the month.

Before this war is over, I'm going to kill you.

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

On Jon McGraw (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4224701)’s punt block, no one elected to stop him. This was not a Herculean one-man effort, ala the departed Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307543) (thank you for that, by the way, Mr. Pioli).


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When Karma calls the dogs down on your man-crush, I will be there.

[Hammock Parties]

As for "flukes", Jon McGraw said that ST coach Steve Hoffman saw a weakness in Baltimore's punt protection and created a special punt rush to exploit it. Not my definition of a fluke.

HE WAS STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FORMATION

AND RAN THROUGH

UNTOUCHED!!!!!!!!!!

There was nothing "special" about it.

[Reerun_KC]

http://www.fleetfeetsyracuse.com/newsletters/beatapril18-05/GregRobinson.jpg

Exactly... Thanks for proving the point... Rep!

[KCDC]

Good article GoChiefs. We'll keep rooting for the team to improve, but I have to agree that I share some of your fears.

[Mecca]

They're being called fluke plays because odds are the Chiefs won't be getting a blocked punt and int 70 yard return every week...

Basically those 2 big mistakes by the Ravens kept the Chiefs in the game. If they play that way every week they'll got smoked on most occasions.

[T-post Tom]

Not a big fan of Lazy state U players... Time will tell, but if his work ethic is anything like the rest of them... We all will be singing a different tune in a year or so...

Since joining the Chiefs, all signs point to Jackson having a good work ethic.

[Hammock Parties]

They're being called fluke plays because odds are the Chiefs won't be getting a blocked punt and int 70 yard return every week...


Yeah, not ONLY were they practically unforced, they're unlikely to happen again, ESPECIALLY in tandem, all year.

If DJ takes another pick 70 yards I will suck a cock.

[Reerun_KC]

Besides, how can you go backwards when you went as far in reverse as humanly possible with Herm...

There isnt any place left to go but forward... Damn people it was the first game. We were in the game all day. Cant someone just be thrilled that we were actually competitive and trying to rid ourselves of Carl and Herms stench...

Jesus people are acting like this is the NE patriots... No were the Chiefs and we have been shit for 3 years... But we are moving forward....

[tonyetony]

A step backwards from 2-14. I doubt it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Besides, how can you go backwards when you went as far in reverse as humanly possible with Herm...

There isnt any place left to go but forward... Damn people it was the first game. We were in the game all day. Cant someone just be thrilled that we were actually competitive and trying to rid ourselves of Carl and Herms stench...

Jesus people are acting like this is the NE patriots... No were the Chiefs and we have been shit for 3 years... But we are moving forward....

Yep.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

i guarantee you jamarcus russell will throw at least one unforced interception next week.

[DeezNutz]

Someone needs to find the statistics for this:

What are a team's odds of winning if they a.) win the TO battle AND b.) record a ST TD AND c.) record a defensive TD

I realize c didn't happen, much like the Ravens last TD, but, for practical purposes, we were set up pretty damn nicely after DJ's pick.

[tonyetony]

A step back from an 0-4 preseason. Nope.

[Mecca]

The Raiders won't be letting him throw much...

Here's the thing if you want and looked up stats and said "You get a blocked punt TD and a near DEF TD" basically 14 points out of defense and special teams it would likely say you win that game 95% of the time yet the Chiefs lost.

[Reerun_KC]

Someone needs to find the statistics for this:

What are a team's odds of winning if they a.) win the TO battle AND b.) record a ST TD AND c.) record a defensive TD

I realize c didn't happen, much like the Ravens last TD, but, for practical purposes, we were set up pretty damn nicely after DJ's pick.

Agree, but we just dont have the talent to finish off a team of Baltimores stature... Some day? Oh hell yeah, but right now its about baby steps, and today we took our first one.

It wasnt pretty, but you have to stand up, take a step, walk all before you can run...

We stood up today and attempted a step forward.

[Reerun_KC]

The Raiders won't be letting him throw much...

Here's the thing if you want and looked up stats and said "You get a blocked punt TD and a near DEF TD" basically 14 points out of defense and special teams it would likely say you win that game 95% of the time yet the Chiefs lost.

So now you were expecting the Chiefs to win? You never gave them a chance anyway... So what is it?

[Hammock Parties]

:

What are a team's odds of winning if they a.) win the TO battle AND b.) record a ST TD AND c.) record a defensive TD


Before Sunday there were 100 percent I bet. ROFL

[T-post Tom]

HE WAS STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FORMATION

AND RAN THROUGH

UNTOUCHED!!!!!!!!!!

There was nothing "special" about it.

Formation, assignments, etc. Sorry, but I'll take McGraw's word over your's on this one. But like I said, I appreciated your writing skills in the article despite your incorrectness on some of the inferences & conclusions. :p

[KCChiefsMan]

JFC that is a stupid title, I'm not going to read it just because of how dumb the title is.

[Hammock Parties]

Sorry, but I'll take McGraw's word over your's on this one.

Try again.


"We had a scheme put in this week," McGraw told reporters following the game. "Coach Hoffman did a nice job, I thought."

But Hoffman's scheme isn't what caused McGraw to break free.

"And actually, I wasn't the guy designed to block it but they did something different with their protection and I came scot-free so I timed it up well.

That is an unforced error ALL THE WAY. TOTAL FLUKE. There isn't a punt protection scheme in the world that allows a guy to run up the middle untouched.

[Basileus777]

There's absolutely nothing flukey about that interception, shit like that happens in practically every NFL game. Interception returns are a common part of football.

[keg in kc]

We should be able to run the ball, too. Because fortunately nobody is going to confuse the Raiders defense with the Ravens defense.

Although I've probably just jinxed the Chiefs into a shutout.

[tk13]

Yeah, and if the Broncos can just have a tipped 87 yard touchdown pass every week they'll go undefeated. There's always a certain amount of luck that goes into the NFL.

I think there are some legitimate questions being raised about some things we did today. We can't be outgained 2-1 every week and expect to compete.

But still, that shouldn't take away from some of the good things that happened. Whatever you may think, there was a blocked punt, and a good INT by DJ. Those are not things you can rely on every week, but those were not fluke plays. There's a difference. Those were plays where somebody for the Chiefs stepped up and made something happen to change the course of the game. There is no other way to snake around it.

A fluke play is having a defensive back tip a ball directly to a wide open WR who happens to be standing 5 yards away. Not somebody hustling and making a play that directly forces a turnover.

[Mecca]

So now you were expecting the Chiefs to win? You never gave them a chance anyway... So what is it?

God damn it...

The point is when you do something that teams win neary 100% of the time and you still lose pretty handily and it just kept you in the game we shouldn't be talking about how it was positive.

When you're winning the turnover battle, getting big plays on special teams and defense that lead to points and you still get your ass thoroughly whipped it just makes the score closer...that's fuckin scary.

[DeezNutz]

Before Sunday there were 100 percent I bet. ROFL

Honestly, pretty damn close. Probably 98-99% chance of victory.

Now, to say that all of these things happen and the team STILL loses by 2 TDs...no fucking chance.

Probability = zero. Until today, of course.

[T-post Tom]

Try again.
That is an unforced error ALL THE WAY. TOTAL FLUKE. There isn't a punt protection scheme in the world that allows a guy to run up the middle untouched.

I didn't see that quote. Where'd you find that?

[tonyetony]

If nothing else can be taken away from this game for us it should be this:

Mike Brown is a real NFL SS and that's how real SS's tackle. I hope when the defense watches the film that a light bulb goes on for some of our new starters and they bring that intensity into next weeks game.

Browns tackling was a step forward.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Yeah, and if the Broncos can just have a tipped 87 yard touchdown pass every week they'll go undefeated. There's always a certain amount of luck that goes into the NFL.

I think there are some legitimate questions being raised about some things we did today. We can't be outgained 2-1 every week and expect to compete.

But still, that shouldn't take away from some of the good things that happened. Whatever you may think, there was a blocked punt, and a good INT by DJ. Those are not things you can rely on every week, but those were not fluke plays. There's a difference. Those were plays where somebody for the Chiefs stepped up and made something happen to change the course of the game. There is no other way to snake around it.

A fluke play is having a defensive back tip a ball directly to a wide open WR who happens to be standing 5 yards away. Not somebody hustling and making a play that directly forces a turnover.

thank you for not being an idiot.

[Reerun_KC]

God damn it...

The point is when you do something that teams win neary 100% of the time and you still lose pretty handily and it just kept you in the game we shouldn't be talking about how it was positive.

When you're winning the turnover battle, getting big plays on special teams and defense that lead to points and you still get your ass thoroughly whipped it just makes the score closer...that's ****in scary.

Maybe if we had some freaking talent we could pull that off... You never gave them a chance anyway, so why all the bitching about it??????

[Hammock Parties]

If nothing else can be taken away from this game for us it should be this:

Mike Brown is a real NFL SS and that's how real SS's tackle. I hope when the defense watches the film that a light bulb goes on for some of our new starters and they bring that intensity into next weeks game.

Browns tackling was a step forward.

Bingo.

He came up and made credible tackles all game long.

He got abused in pass coverage but...everyone did.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

If nothing else can be taken away from this game for us it should be this:

Mike Brown is a real NFL SS and that's how real SS's tackle. I hope when the defense watches the film that a light bulb goes on for some of our new starters and they bring that intensity into next weeks game.

Browns tackling was a step forward.

actually, the whole team tackled very well. there was a lot of non-coverage and non-pass rush, but i don't remember very many, if any, missed tackles. the tackling has definitely improved.

[Reerun_KC]

Bingo.

He came up and made credible tackles all game long.

He got abused in pass coverage but...everyone did.


Brown and Page got rented all day long... No surprise though. Without Flowers, the secondary as a whole isnt anything note worthy...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If nothing else can be taken away from this game for us it should be this:

Mike Brown is a real NFL SS and that's how real SS's tackle. I hope when the defense watches the film that a light bulb goes on for some of our new starters and they bring that intensity into next weeks game.

Browns tackling was a step forward.

He'll do nicely until we draft elite talent at the position this April.

[tonyetony]

Well the pathetic pass rush didn't help matters but then again how wide open could Heap get on third and long situations.

[Hammock Parties]

He'll do nicely until we draft elite talent at the position this April.

1. Pollard cut
2. Brown smacking guys all game long

If LJ busts out your trifecta of FAIL will be COMPLETE!

[Micjones]

It's almost like someone turned off the lights and good sense with it.

Flacco won't throw another unforced interception all year?
Interceptions and blocked punts are fluke plays?
Brilliant.

LMAO

[T-post Tom]

Try again. That is an unforced error ALL THE WAY. TOTAL FLUKE. There isn't a punt protection scheme in the world that allows a guy to run up the middle untouched.

I found your quote at http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/9/13/1029007/breaking-down-the-chiefs-blocked. Part of your quote is the writer's assumption: "But that Hoffman's scheme isn't what caused McGraw to break free." McGraw didn't say that. Maybe their reaction to our formation forced them to do something they didn't want to do; which in turn opened a lane for McGraw. I don't know, but I'm going to look at the play again.

As other posters have said, an errant throw by a QB isn't a fluke. And DJ still had to make the catch and run it back. (Flacco didn't do that.) The other players had to block on the return as well. Yeah, the Chiefs are less talented than the Ravens. But they did some things well and made their limited good fortunes on the field through effort.

Just curious, do really feel this negative about the Chiefs? Or are you writing for effect?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

1. Pollard cut
2. Brown smacking guys all game long

If LJ busts out your trifecta of FAIL will be COMPLETE!

The chances of that heartless, gutless, fireless, money collector "busting out" are about as good as a return to parachute pants on Paris fucking runway.

And Brown's performance today could best be described as "workmanlike", and I'm being very fucking generous with that.

[Titty Meat]

The chances of that heartless, gutless, fireless, money collector "busting out" are about as good as a return to parachute pants on Paris ****ing runway.

And Brown's performance today could best be described as "workmanlike", and I'm being very ****ing generous with that.

What game did you watch? Brown played good better then Pollard ever played.

[Hammock Parties]

And Brown's performance today could best be described as "workmanlike", and I'm being very fucking generous with that.

Pollard's usual performance could be described as "shitty."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

All I know is I took a step backwards today.

I was viewing a streaming scene of Mikayla Mendez on SpankWire from Horny Spanish Flies, and before they even got the pickup part of the scene done, I just said "fuck it" and finished myself off.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Pollard's usual performance could be described as "shitty."

ROFL

[Basileus777]

I found your quote at http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/9/13/1029007/breaking-down-the-chiefs-blocked. Part of your quote is the writer's assumption: "But that Hoffman's scheme isn't what caused McGraw to break free." McGraw didn't say that. Maybe their reaction to our formation forced them to do something they didn't want to do; which in turn opened a lane for McGraw. I don't know, but I'm going to look at the play again.

As other posters have said, an errant throw by a QB isn't a fluke. And DJ still had to make the catch and run it back. (Flacco didn't do that.) The other players had to block on the return as well. Yeah, the Chiefs are less talented than the Ravens. But they did some things well and made their limited good fortunes on the field through effort.

Just curious, do really feel this negative about the Chiefs? Or are you writing for effect?

The idea that interceptions are fluke plays that can't be counted on to happen again is just idiocy. Not even Clayton is that stupid, he just needed something to rail about in this article.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What game did you watch? Brown played good better then Pollard ever played.

Well that says a lot!:thumb: Pro Bowl that motherfucker!

Pollard's usual performance could be described as "shitty."

I thought you didn't care about someone who isn't on the roster anymore; why the sudden change of heart?
Let's deal with the roster, m'kay Mr. Deflection?

[Hammock Parties]

The idea that interceptions are fluke plays that can't be counted on to happen again is just idiocy. Not even Clayton is that stupid, he just needed something to rail about in this article.

Not all interceptions.

But when the quarterback is standing there, eating a ham sandwich, and lazily throws the ball to a wide open receiver and it gets picked AND returned 70 yards?

FLUKE!

[tk13]

All I know is I took a step backwards today.


Not too much unlike Jay Cutler's performance tonight.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

All I know is I took a step backwards today.

I was viewing a streaming scene of Mikayla Mendez on SpankWire from Horny Spanish Flies, and before they even got the pickup part of the scene done, I just said "fuck it" and finished myself off.

That's some fine fucking coochy right there, my friend.:thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

I thought you didn't care about someone who isn't on the roster anymore; why the sudden change of heart?


Someone else brought it up. I'm into a good pile on.

Besides, I like to fight with you. So far, I'M WINNNG! :evil:

[Basileus777]

Not all interceptions.

But when the quarterback is standing there, eating a ham sandwich, and lazily throws the ball to a wide open receiver and it gets picked AND returned 70 yards?

FLUKE!

Dude, quarterbacks make stupid decisions like that all the time. Flacco will do it a bunch more times this year alone. You have a point about the punt block, but that interception is just a normal part of the game.

[Hammock Parties]

Dude, quarterbacks make stupid decisions like that all the time. Flacco will do it a bunch more times this year alone.

While he's standing in a clean pocket with absolutely no pressure? Not likely. Interceptions don't just happen. That one was lucky as HELL.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Someone else brought it up. I'm into a good pile on.

Besides, I like to fight with you. So far, I'M WINNNG! :evil:

If and when the Chiefs draft a Running Back, Pioli and Haley are going to take the young recruit in to the Stram Theater, play him tape of LJ from this season, and tell him, and I quote:

"If we EVER see you putting out this kind of half-assed effort, we will break your fucking legs, dump you in cement, and bury you at the bottom of the Missouri River, capishe"?

[T-post Tom]

All I know is I took a step backwards today.

I was viewing a streaming scene of Mikayla Mendez on SpankWire from Horny Spanish Flies, and before they even got the pickup part of the scene done, I just said "**** it" and finished myself off.


Found it. Cute face. Not so cute tats.

[Hammock Parties]

If and when the Chiefs draft a Running Back, Pioli and Haley are going to take the young recruit in to the Stram Theater, play him tape of LJ from this season, and tell him, and I quote:

"If we EVER see you putting out this kind of half-assed effort, we will break your fucking legs, dump you in cement, and bury you at the bottom of the Missouri River, capishe"?

As soon as a running back on the Chiefs' roster starts outproducing LJ, I will jump on his bandwagon.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

As soon as a running back on the Chiefs' roster starts outproducing LJ, I will jump on his bandwagon.

Well I can sure sleep better now. :rolleyes:

[Hammock Parties]

Well I can sure sleep better now. :rolleyes:

Why do you think I jumped on LJ's bandwagon in the first place?

He started busting off runs that made Priest look average.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Why do you think I jumped on LJ's bandwagon in the first place?

He started busting off runs that made Priest look average.

Priest Holmes was a special player and individual. LJ can run to China and never be half of what Holmes was.

[HolmeZz]

lol @ the interception and blocked punt being described as 'flukes'. Fluke plays are a matter of luck. Those plays weren't matters of luck, they did exactly what they were designed to do.

[TrickyNicky]

How many drops? Penalties? How many unnecessary timeouts or poor clock management?

[Hammock Parties]

How many drops? Penalties? How many unnecessary timeouts or poor clock management?

The clock management at the end of the first half was a clusterfuck. We blew a chance at points.

[T-post Tom]

The clock management at the end of the first half was a cluster****. We blew a chance at points.

Yep. That fiasco did remind me of Herm. But being the first game, I'm hopeful that was a "fluke". :thumb:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

FWIW, doing some quick googling, if you block a punt, your odds of winning go from 50/50 to 60/40. If you win the turnover battle by one, it adds .2 expected wins to your total. I have no idea how much getting two TDs from those plays also adds to your win expectancy, but I can't imagine a scenario wherein you would get both, for TDs, and lose by two TDs.

[Hammock Parties]

The WPI crowd is ripping me over this. lol

[J Diddy]

Priest Holmes was a special player and individual. LJ can run to China and never be half of what Holmes was.


correction 1/10th

[tonyetony]

The clock management at the end of the first half was a cluster****. We blew a chance at points.

At least Haley called a time out. I'm sure he was wanting to chuck it into the end zone as time expired. Who knows what could have happened but Herm would have never had the balls to find out.

[Hammock Parties]

I can't imagine a scenario wherein you would get both, for TDs, and lose by two TDs.

From the 50, anything is possible.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

From the 50, anything is possible.

LMAO

"I got my Drunk AWWWWWWWNNNNNN"....

[Hammock Parties]

By the way, did anyone else get COMPLETELY infuriated today when the Chiefs were down near the goal line and Bowe was NOT ON THE FIELD?

That fuck COPPER was out there.

[tonyetony]

LMAO

"I got my Drunk AWWWWWWWNNNNNN"....

Me too, and I don't even care that I have to get up in ....let me see.......6 hours. Ok I do care...I'm out, later.

[DaneMcCloud]

A step back from an 0-4 preseason. Nope.

Except for the 0-5 part.

[Consistent1]

Haley may cuss and be "tough", but he won't cover the 22 thing if it were a bet. It may be a push at 2 due to some kind of luck, but much of that luck was blown today. I will go on record with a loss to the Raiders next week 17-10. Worse, but lucky....won't cut it. But hey, the team lost a bunch of weight...

[Gravedigger]

Its a step in the right direction thats all I know.

I was like most Chiefs fans, heard and saw the offense be stagnant for the preseason thinking that things weren't going to change. I watched the first and second quarters and thought the same. But then in the second half until Clayton grabbed that TD putting Baltimore up 31-24, I thought that we might win the game. That hope that filled my heart so many times against a Chiefs opponent only to be squashed later sunk in. I knew that in the end the victory would get away from us, and it turned out to be that way.

We needed Flowers and Cassle today, I am a Croyle fan, I want to see him do well, given that he stay healthy. But we need consistency at quarterback, we need to put one man in that position and have him be our QB for the season. Similar to today, we'll get better as the games go along. The team will gel, and things will start making sense.

As long as this team progresses, the schedule favors the second half for us. These first 8 games might get ugly, but I think if we end the season on a high note, finish the last 8 games staying above .500 in those games, it'll carry us to better times and the confidence we will gain from it as a team will pay dividends for next season, and this city. Other than that as long as we stay competitive this season, like we were today, I have no problems with losing games like this, as long as we show improvement.

[Hammock Parties]

Echo echo echo...

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CHIEFS vs RAVENS: What game were YOU watching?


<!-- END tabs --> <!-- begin content --> Everyone who thought the Chiefs played respectably on Sunday please raise your hand… Ok, you are all dismissed. Check in at the principle’s office for your summer school class schedule…. I don’t care that they scored 24 points. I don’t care that they were “in the game” until late. The facts are they were horrible on offense and horrible on defense. Now, if you want to add an interception return and special teams, maybe not so horrible. But, those are not repeatable and have little to do with what you can expect on a weekly basis. The next time the Chiefs opponent might get those same breaks. Instead of losing 38-24, we lose 52-10!
I’ve heard people saying that it was really a seven point margin instead of 14, but that’s utter nonsense! It’s more of a 21 point margin than 7. The Chiefs got two “gifts” compared to the Raven’s one. At the worst, it was a 14 point margin. Since that’s where it ended, I’ll accept it, though between the lines it was really a 31-10 game.

THE BIG QUESTION

The question that popped into my mind before it was even over was when the last time the Chiefs had a 2+ turnover advantage and still lost by 14+ points. Unfortunately, pro-football-reference doesn’t yet have the ability to do that kind of a search for teams, although they just announced a whole slew of search capabilities for players. (I would have done teams before players, but they’ll get there.)

I was forced to do my usual mind-numbing thumbing through past box scores in an effort to find such an example. Right from the beginning, you have to recognize the Chiefs were +5 in turnover margin last season despite going 2-14. Since turnovers have the greatest correlation to winning, imagine how bad it would have been if they had been, say … minus 5! As any sports statistician will tell you, turnovers inevitably revert to the mean. The Chiefs are on borrowed time and there is no way you can feel particularly good about 14 of the 24 points without recognizing that you may not see either type of score again for weeks and weeks – if at all this season.

THE BIG ANSWER

The last time the Chiefs were +2 (or more) on turnovers and still lost by 14+ points was 1977 (Houston). It’s a very hard thing to accomplish. In order for that to be the case, you almost have to have been beaten like a rented mule the rest of the game.

HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE

Kansas City had 188 net yards. Take away the 50 yard bomb and the meaningless 20 yard pass on the last play of the half and you have a lot less. But, whether you believe those are repeatable events or not, 188 net yards is terrible. They only had 11 first downs (two by penalty) and averaged 1.7 ypc on the ground. Though I expected nothing more, the offense was abysmal.

The defense was just as bad, or worse. Of course, you have to acknowledge the two “takeaways”, but that isn’t how you measure whether a team had a good day defensively. You have to look at the number of yards allowed and the number of first downs. Baltimore had 501 net yards (franchise record) and 32 first downs! You also can’t use the argument that KC’s defense wore down as they allowed 215 yards in the first half. Besides, if you wear down in game #1, what does that say about game # (fill in the blank)?

So, they had 188 yards and gave up 501. That’s a differential of 313 yards. Here is a little table to show you how this ranks over the last three seasons. Of course, 2009 only has one game to choose from.
Shown are 1) the worst games by yards allowed, 2) how 188 yards offensively would have ranked in each season, and 3) the worst differential for a game for each season. Clearly, in only one game, the Chiefs have already met (or passed) their worst performances of the prior three years.


<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Year</td><td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">YdsAllow</td><td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">YdsMade</td><td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Differential</td></tr><tr><td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">2009</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">501</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Last</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">-313</td></tr><tr><td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">2008</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">455</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Next to last</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">-314</td></tr><tr><td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">2007</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">453</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Next to last</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">-324</td></tr><tr><td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">2006</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">445</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">Next to last</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(240, 240, 240) windowtext windowtext rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="148">-309</td></tr></tbody></table>-
As I said earlier, I didn’t expect anything else. My analysis tonight is simply to undelusionalize anyone who sees a 38-24 score and thinks… “not so bad”. It was bad. It was really bad. Worse, I saw absolutely nothing that would make me think it will be any better in the future except that KC is playing Oakland. But, if they lose that game, the better option for fans may be the last couple weeks of the Royals season.

[Just Passin' By]

2-14 (26th scoring offense and 29th scoring defense) last season going up against 11-5 (#3 scoring defense and #11 scoring offense) last season, on the road opening week

Massive turnover of players, coaches and front office

Starting QB out, and the team is playing with a backup who's never won an NFL game.

Best cornerback out.

Of all the teams that won 5 games or fewer last season and have played week 1 to date:

Bengals
Browns
Jaguars
Chiefs
Lions
Seahawks
Rams

Only the Seahawks won, and they were a 10-6 team the season before that was devastated by injuries last year, were playing at home, and were playing against another member of the "5 wins or fewer in 2008" club (Rams).

Despite all this working against the team, they kept it close until the very end. I don't see how that should be looked at as a step backwards.

[Ugly Duck]

2008 we averaged 308 yards offense and today just over 200.

188 yards is not over 200. But it still isn't the worst performance of the day... 3 other teams actually totaled less yardage than Kansas City.... seriously - I'm not joking!

[DaneMcCloud]

Cant someone just be thrilled that we were actually competitive and trying to rid ourselves of Carl and Herms stench...


The Chiefs lost 8 games last year by 7 points or less.

Are you stating that they weren't competitive last year?

[DaneMcCloud]

Bingo.

He came up and made credible tackles all game long.

He got abused in pass coverage but...everyone did.

So, Mike Brown gets abused in coverage and it's okay?

LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

So, Mike Brown gets abused in coverage and it's okay?

LMAO

The man was not created to cover Todd Heap one on one.

I will not bash him for it.

[Hammock Parties]

By the way, Albert was beaten for TWO sacks today, not one. So it could have been FIVE sacks had Brodie not gotten rid of the ball so quickly. I'm giffing Fat Albert up.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The man was not created to cover Todd Heap one on one.

I will not bash him for it.


Or Ocho Cinco for that matter. I love the way this man dances:


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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

By the way, Albert was beaten for TWO sacks today, not one. So it could have been FIVE sacks had Brodie not gotten rid of the ball so quickly. I'm giffing Fat Albert up.

Why don't you gif up Dorsey or Tank for fuck's sake?

[Hammock Parties]

Why don't you gif up Dorsey or Tank for fuck's sake?

Their time will come.

[jAZ]

Are we better conditioned? Yes
Do we have more heart? Probably
Do we have better talent? Doubtful.

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.

“It’s not necessarily the best 53 players it’s the right 53 players."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

“It’s not necessarily the best 53 players it’s the right 53 players."

You do realize that's a line of horseshit, right? It's meant to appeal to simpletons; a nice PR snippet for a soundbyte society.

You are "right" as long as your contributions outweigh what you take away. It's the same for Bill Parcells as it is Jeff Fisher or Ken Whisenhunt.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Echo echo echo...

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CHIEFS vs RAVENS: What game were YOU watching?


<!-- END tabs --> <!-- begin content --> Everyone who thought the Chiefs played respectably on Sunday please raise your hand… Ok, you are all dismissed. Check in at the principle’s office for your summer school class schedule…. I don’t care that they scored 24 points. I don’t care that they were “in the game” until late. The facts are they were horrible on offense and horrible on defense. Now, if you want to add an interception return and special teams, maybe not so horrible. But, those are not repeatable and have little to do with what you can expect on a weekly basis. The next time the Chiefs opponent might get those same breaks. Instead of losing 38-24, we lose 52-10!
I’ve heard people saying that it was really a seven point margin instead of 14, but that’s utter nonsense! It’s more of a 21 point margin than 7. The Chiefs got two “gifts” compared to the Raven’s one. At the worst, it was a 14 point margin. Since that’s where it ended, I’ll accept it, though between the lines it was really a 31-10 game.

THE BIG QUESTION

The question that popped into my mind before it was even over was when the last time the Chiefs had a 2+ turnover advantage and still lost by 14+ points. Unfortunately, pro-football-reference doesn’t yet have the ability to do that kind of a search for teams, although they just announced a whole slew of search capabilities for players. (I would have done teams before players, but they’ll get there.)

I was forced to do my usual mind-numbing thumbing through past box scores in an effort to find such an example. Right from the beginning, you have to recognize the Chiefs were +5 in turnover margin last season despite going 2-14. Since turnovers have the greatest correlation to winning, imagine how bad it would have been if they had been, say … minus 5! As any sports statistician will tell you, turnovers inevitably revert to the mean. The Chiefs are on borrowed time and there is no way you can feel particularly good about 14 of the 24 points without recognizing that you may not see either type of score again for weeks and weeks – if at all this season.

THE BIG ANSWER

The last time the Chiefs were +2 (or more) on turnovers and still lost by 14+ points was 1977 (Houston). It’s a very hard thing to accomplish. In order for that to be the case, you almost have to have been beaten like a rented mule the rest of the game.

HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE

Kansas City had 188 net yards. Take away the 50 yard bomb and the meaningless 20 yard pass on the last play of the half and you have a lot less. But, whether you believe those are repeatable events or not, 188 net yards is terrible. They only had 11 first downs (two by penalty) and averaged 1.7 ypc on the ground. Though I expected nothing more, the offense was abysmal.

The defense was just as bad, or worse. Of course, you have to acknowledge the two “takeaways”, but that isn’t how you measure whether a team had a good day defensively. You have to look at the number of yards allowed and the number of first downs. Baltimore had 501 net yards (franchise record) and 32 first downs! You also can’t use the argument that KC’s defense wore down as they allowed 215 yards in the first half. Besides, if you wear down in game #1, what does that say about game # (fill in the blank)?

So, they had 188 yards and gave up 501. That’s a differential of 313 yards. Here is a little table to show you how this ranks over the last three seasons. Of course, 2009 only has one game to choose from.
Shown are 1) the worst games by yards allowed, 2) how 188 yards offensively would have ranked in each season, and 3) the worst differential for a game for each season. Clearly, in only one game, the Chiefs have already met (or passed) their worst performances of the prior three years.


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As I said earlier, I didn’t expect anything else. My analysis tonight is simply to undelusionalize anyone who sees a 38-24 score and thinks… “not so bad”. It was bad. It was really bad. Worse, I saw absolutely nothing that would make me think it will be any better in the future except that KC is playing Oakland. But, if they lose that game, the better option for fans may be the last couple weeks of the Royals season.

Basically what most of the sensible people on here have been saying all day. That 1977 stat is fucking pathetisad, though.

[BossChief]

Yeah, not ONLY were they practically unforced, they're unlikely to happen again, ESPECIALLY in tandem, all year.

If DJ takes another pick 70 yards I will suck a cock.

DJ dropped a couple pick six opertunities last year, I think he played alot more focused today than I have seen him play while here.

That type of play was EXACTLY what made him a possible top five selection in that draft. He also played best when Texas ran the 3-4.

The guy is a good enough backer to be in position to make you "swallow" your words.

I hope his benching woke him up, as he could be a huge difference maker in this defense if he gets back into the coaches good graces and plays like a player in a contract year.

I wouldnt be surprised if DJ has 5 or more picks this year and has the speed to return em.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Wow, is it just me, or does that article look like it was written by an organization that was shown the door by Pioli and Co?

Oh, that's right, they were.

Not to say any of it doesn't have merit, but the shot about Pioli dumping Pollard? Come on.

Pollard had a bad preseason. It is time that we started holding players accountable. If for no other reason, the Chiefs are better because of that.

[Hammock Parties]

the shot about Pioli dumping Pollard? Come on.

Pollard had a bad preseason. It is time that we started holding players accountable. If for no other reason, the Chiefs are better because of that.

Read that line again with your head removed from your ass.

By the way, Pioli and Haley are like rock gods to me. I love them.

[HonestChieffan]

Bad team without Herm is by definition, improved.

[Inspector]

I do not want to say anything about proof reading what you post - it doesn't really matter. All of us make typo's and grammar errors, etc...

But if you write articles for public consumption, you really should proof read your work.

Beyond that, you made some good points and maybe a few that I wouldn't agree with.

I understand that you fancy yourself as a writer - cool - but try to remember to read every sentence very slowly so you can catch those errors before you put them out for everyone else to catch. It will help you develop a more professional appearance to your work.

Thanks for the article man!:thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

But if you write articles for public consumption, you really should proof read your work.


I did. The article is flawless.

[Inspector]

Correct - your quick edit fixed what I saw. Good job!!

[Hammock Parties]

Correct - your quick edit fixed what I saw. Good job!!

Fuck off. Your condescending attitude is completely unnecessary.

[J Diddy]

**** off. Your condescending attitude is completely unnecessary.


wy shuld u fukin haat hees onlee triing two help u

jeez sum peeple

[Inspector]

**** off. Your condescending attitude is completely unnecessary.

Oh....

Ooops. Sorry.

I forgot you are still a child.

Wasn't trying to offend, just trying to help your career.

You should probably wait a few more years before actually trying to be a professional writer. Let time ripen your matuirty a little more.

We understand. Everyone goes through those years. Hang in there and keep up the good work!:thumb:

[the Talking Can]

new schemes with new players who don't fit schemes = shitty play


it's not like they dreamed of Mays, Williams, Hali being their perfect 3-4 LBs...or niswanger, goff, whomever etc...

long term changes equal short term pain equal half step back to take two forward...

[Hammock Parties]

Oh....

Ooops. Sorry.

I forgot you are still a child.

Wasn't trying to offend, just trying to help your career.

You should probably wait a few more years before actually trying to be a professional writer. Let time ripen your matuirty a little more.

We understand. Everyone goes through those years. Hang in there and keep up the good work!:thumb:

Stop being a condescending prick. No one likes it, and it contributes nothing to the discussion.

[the Talking Can]

Are we better conditioned? Yes
Do we have more heart? Probably
Do we have better talent? Doubtful.

This team is "better" in some ways...it's also worse, and that's fine.

well i'll be damned, i agree

short and to the point

[Inspector]

Stop being a condescending prick. No one likes it, and it contributes nothing to the discussion.

ok

[Fat Elvis]

Stop being a condescending prick. No one likes it, and it contributes nothing to the discussion.

http://theinsanityreport.com/images/pot_kettle.jpg

[TEX]

Good read IMO.
I'm concerned about Brandon Albert. In addition to yesterday, he hasn't looke that good all preseason.

[Consistent1]

Stop being a condescending prick. No one likes it, and it contributes nothing to the discussion.


Hell, you can't blame the guy for trying that angle....half of the "popular" fuggas on here are exactly like that......

[Reerun_KC]

The Chiefs lost 8 games last year by 7 points or less.

Are you stating that they weren't competitive last year?

NO, not only no Dane, BUT fucking hell no... The team never progress forward, quit, the coach quit when cornered... The team was lazy, fat and out of shape...

I could careless about how many games they lost by what score. They were not coached on and NFL level and no not once did I think they were competitive enough to win those games...

Second, we had a chance yesterday late in the game. "Chances" are something Herm never gave this team.

[Dallas Chief]

I can't believe you wrote that. I am severely disappointed in you. One thing matters in the end- the score. There are no style points, no media points, no points for the best stats. They hung in there pretty well IMO. I am still let down by the loss, but this team showed more heart yesterday than they did on any previous Sunday for the past two years. FWIW...

[Brock]

How do you take a step backward from the shit that this team has been for the last few years? There's no way this team would have been in that game if Edwards was still coaching it.

[dj56dt58]

Last I checked it was 24-24 with under 8 to go in the 4th...

Someone kept the Chiefs in the game, offense/Defense/ ST's... Take a pick...

all of them..they took turns being good..or took turns sucking..whichever you prefer

[HotRoute]

Will our offense really be any better without chan gailey calling plays?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You do realize that's a line of horseshit, right? It's meant to appeal to simpletons; a nice PR snippet for a soundbyte society.

You are "right" as long as your contributions outweigh what you take away. It's the same for Bill Parcells as it is Jeff Fisher or Ken Whisenhunt.

He should have waited until year three to unveil that ridiculous statement.

When you match that motto with the current roster, EPIC Clownshoe is the undisputed result.