Hank Baskett released....

[AZChief]

Adam_SchefterEagles have taken Michael Vick off exempt list and he will begin practicing Wednesday. To make room for him, team released Hank Baskett.

He'd be worth a look...

[Brock]

Yep, might as well.

[Gonzo]

Is he better than Wade or about the same?

I know nothing of either really except that Wade had a decent year for a slot guy in 08.

[Sofa King]

not if he brings that retard girlfriend of his...

[teedubya]

Yes!! bring his retard girlfriend of his!!

[The Franchise]

Bring him in. He's better than Engram and Wade can play the slot.

[doomy3]

Glad we didn't waste a draft pick on him.

[CaliforniaChief]

If Baskett + Wade is better than Engram + Copper why not?

[Sure-Oz]

definetly bring him in for a look

[Chief Faithful]

If Baskett + Wade is better than Engram + Copper why not?

:thumb:

[Gonzo]

not if he brings that retard girlfriend of his...

Yes!! bring his retard girlfriend of his!!

His girlfriend it a retart...

Bring him in!

[Pitt Gorilla]

I liked him out of college. I don't have a clue about him as a pro.

[CoMoChief]

not if he brings that retard girlfriend of his...

I know.....that would REALLY ruin this football team wouldnt it? :spock:

[CoMoChief]

She can be a cheerleader. Shes better than anything KC has had on their cheerleading roster. including Trisha

[Sofa King]

I know.....that would REALLY ruin this football team wouldnt it? :spock:

the second she started speaking, it very well could...

[Sofa King]

She can be a cheerleader. Shes better than anything KC has had on their cheerleading roster. including Trisha

she wouldnt look good cheering for the chiefs in one of her chargers jerseys..



http://beargoggleson.com/files/2009/04/kendrawilkinsonchargers.jpg

[bevischief]

Yes!! bring his retard girlfriend of his!!

Worthless without pics.

[Kylo Ren]

Kendra and Croyle's wife both at Arrowhead? :thumb:

[bevischief]

Kendra and Croyle's wife........ girl / girl action....... :drool:

We need more of this.

:drool::drool:

[HotRoute]

all i know is that he is bigger than b.wade by 6-7 inches. he wasnt worth a draft pick, but he is worth bringing in off of waivers. h.baskett = m.bradley, except maybe baskett will know the difference between running a route for a first down, and cutting it off short to make the grab. i could definately see haley releasing him for that one rookie mistake.

And who cares about his girlfriend shes a chargers fan, so you know she's retarded, lol.

[Kylo Ren]

We need more of this.

:drool::drool: Pervert! :shake:

[KcKing]

He's been in the league a few years right? How long does a person have to be in the league to make the difference between being placed on waivers or being able to be a free agent?
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[Mr. Laz]

Pervert! :shake:
homo

[Buehler445]

Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
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[Kylo Ren]

all i know is that he is bigger than b.wade by 6-7 inches. he wasnt worth a draft pick, but he is worth bringing in off of waivers. h.baskett = m.bradley, except maybe baskett will know the difference between running a route for a first down, and cutting it off short to make the grab. i could definately see haley releasing him for that one rookie mistake.

And who cares about his girlfriend shes a chargers fan, so you know she's retarded, lol.

Kennison was picked up after the season started. Bradley was picked up after the season started. So, there's a chance that he could be productive.

[Mr. Laz]

He's been in the league a few years right? How long does a person have to be in the league to make the difference between being placed on waivers or being able to be a free agent?
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Four, i think.

this is his forth year so i think he still has to go through waivers, which is good for us.

[Kylo Ren]

homosapien FYP

[nychief]

Kennison was picked up after the season started. Bradley was picked up after the season started. So, there's a chance that he could be productive.

Kennison was picked up during the season... after he quit on the Broncos.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

our cheerleaders need a big upgrade

[Kylo Ren]

Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
Posted via Mobile Device Wrong thread. But, I hope we do.

[Mr. Laz]

Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
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No, it means they took Vick off the exemption list so he could practice with the team or something.

[Mr. Laz]

Wrong thread. But, I hope they do.
you hope they sign Runyan so we won't?

[Buehler445]

No, it means they took Vick off the exemption list so he could practice with the team or something.

Thank you, Laz.

John, I meant the Iggles dude. My question was who did the Iggles add that they needed make room?
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[HotRoute]

Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Engram
4. T.Copper
5. Q.Lawrence
Pr.Squad. R.Wright
INJ. Res. D.Darling

[MVChiefFan]

Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Engram
4. T.Copper
5. Q.Lawrence
Pr.Squad. R.Wright
INJ. Res. D.Darling

?

[HotRoute]

With the addition of Wade
Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Wade
4. B. Engram
5. T.Copper

i think that baskett could at least compete for the #2 Wr on our squad if we sign him, that would give cassel two big targets to throw to bowe 6'2", baskett 6'4". i do think that we need to try for a trade to land a WR before the trade deadline or does someone see a huge WR threat coming outta college next year that we might have a shot at getting?

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

[HotRoute]

?

this is what our depth chart looked like for last weeks game vs. the ravens. or did ya miss it?Al Davis

[Buehler445]

With the addition of Wade
Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Wade
4. B. Engram
5. T.Copper

i think that baskett could at least compete for the #2 Wr on our squad if we sign him, that would give cassel two big targets to throw to bowe 6'2", baskett 6'4". i do think that we need to try for a trade to land a WR before the trade deadline or does someone see a huge WR threat coming outta college next year that we might have a shot at getting?

I'd rather keep Lawrence than Copper. The upside is a lot higher. And by a lot, I mean infinitely.
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[Buehler445]

I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

I haven't looked, but aren't they pretty deep at WR? They spent like 900 high first rounders on them.
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[Hoover]

His wife is a Charger fan, so he will not work for us...

[HotRoute]

Q.Lawrence is ok, but he is small, wade is small, and engram is small. we need to get away from the little WR's that cant take a hit. Lawrence is a rookie trying to do what wade and engram have made careers out of. He needs to go to our practice squad and then we could release r.wright, after a yr or two on the practice squad his talents will be a little more polished, but no doubt he has some raw potential.

[HotRoute]

and on our TE's . . . . wth ever happen to Brad Cottam?? wasnt he looked to as Tony Gonzalez's replacement after we traded him to ATL? now he's not even mentioned. sorry but i wasnt impressed by s.ryan or maybe i'm just use to watching a HOF TE every weekend for the last 10 years.

[Brock]

and on our TE's . . . . wth ever happen to Brad Cottam?? wasnt he looked to as Tony Gonzalez's replacement after we traded him to ATL? now he's not even mentioned. sorry but i wasnt impressed by s.ryan or maybe i'm just use to watching a HOF TE every weekend for the last 10 years.

Cottam was discovered to suck. But there's really no need to replace Tony Gonzalez with another TE, in fact I'd say that's a mistake.

[DaneMcCloud]

I haven't looked, but aren't they pretty deep at WR? They spent like 900 high first rounders on them.
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He's the head coach of the Rams now.

[DaneMcCloud]

I'd rather keep Lawrence than Copper. The upside is a lot higher. And by a lot, I mean infinitely.
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Absolutely.

Who in their right mind would suggest keeping Copper, a 28 year-old never was, over a speedy rookie?

[Micjones]

I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

I thought about that earlier.
The Rams are the only team that would stand in our way.
That said, they should still put a claim in.

[Buehler445]

He's the head coach of the Rams now.

Jesus fucking Christ I'm retarded.

Thanks for lining me out.

I should make myself an antifreeze cocktail.
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[Buehler445]

Q.Lawrence is ok, but he is small, wade is small, and engram is small. we need to get away from the little WR's that cant take a hit . Lawrence is a rookie trying to do what wade and engram have made careers out of. He needs to go to our practice squad and then we could release r.wright, after a yr or two on the practice squad his talents will be a little more polished, but no doubt he has some raw potential.

You're worng. We need speed. Engram is slow as balls. He makes a living on precise routes and catching the ball.

We need Lawrence to pull his head out, play within himself and stretch the field.
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[The Bad Guy]

Why are all of you so quick to throw out Engram? He is probably the best route runner we have with the surest hands.

If we sign Basket, cut Lawerence and hopefully he makes it on the practice squad.

[Micjones]

You're worng. We need speed. Engram is slow as balls. He makes a living on precise routes and catching the ball.

We need Lawrence to pull his head out, play within himself and stretch the field.
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Lawrence gets a 2-year pass from me based on his skillset alone.

[DeezNutz]

Why are all of you so quick to throw out Engram? He is probably the best route runner we have with the surest hands.

If we sign Basket, cut Lawerence and hopefully he makes it on the practice squad.

We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

[Micjones]

We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Darling can be excused. Lawrence has lots of upside.

[DaneMcCloud]

We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Yeah, exactly.

If Haley sees enough for him to initially make the squad over guys like Lelie & Toomer, he's a keeper.

Just look at former 5th rounder Steve Breaston in his second season.

1,000 yards plus with Fitzgerald & Boldin.

[DaneMcCloud]

Darling can be excused. Lawrence has lots of upside.

Darling's on IR and doesn't count in the 53 man roster

[Micjones]

Darling's on IR and doesn't count in the 53 man roster

Is he? I had no idea...

In that case... So long Terrance.

[Gravedigger]

Yes!! bring his retard girlfriend of his!!

LOL, Yeah she's retarded... retarded hot!

In the words of Dave Attell, "They say she's retarded, but those titties ain't retarded!"

[DaneMcCloud]

Is he? I had no idea...

In that case... So long Terrance.

I think Copper's gone with the signing of Bobby Wade

[HotRoute]

We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Are ya sure about that. I'm pretty sure i read a stat recently that went something like we've cut/traded 30 players so far this season and the only 2 to get picked up were Tony G [ATL] and J.Babin [PHI]. So i dont think many teams are waiting for any KC players to hit the waiver wire. not even pollard, which was a surprise to me

[DaneMcCloud]

Are ya sure about that. I'm pretty sure i read a stat recently that went something like we've cut/traded 30 players so far this season and the only 2 to get picked up were Tony G [ATL] and J.Babin [PHI]. So i dont think many teams are waiting for any KC players to hit the waiver wire. not even pollard, which was a surprise to me

Yet people scoffed when I've said for the last two years that the Chiefs have had the most untalented roster in the NFL.

Go figure.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

[ModSocks]

I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

The Raiders. Speed Speed and More Speed

[HotRoute]

Yet people scoffed when I've said for the last two years that the Chiefs have had the most untalented roster in the NFL.
Go figure.

i dont know if i'd agree with that. . . we did have some good talent over that span. Its just when you have terrible coaching it can make players seem less talented then they really are. but i think we were definately in the top 3.

i think the least talented was the lions hands down, they had a decent coach but their players were just awful last year.

if i remember right we were at least in the lead until halftime in most of our losses. which tells me we just made poor mid-game adjustments, which means 14 losses a season.

[DaneMcCloud]

i dont know if i'd agree with that. . . we did have some good talent over that span.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

The Chiefs have gotten rid of more than 30 players this year. Only TWO are currently on an NFL roster: Gonzalez and Babin.

If that doesn't tell you that this team's roster completely sucked (sucks) ass, nothing will.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

Dude, he's too fast and has way too much upside to try and sneak him through waivers.

If the Chiefs get Baskett (or another free agent receiver), Copper or Engram will be the next to go.

[HotRoute]

The Raiders looked like they drafted some decent WR's this year, or maybe the chargers are just wayyyyyyyyyy overRATED. and lawrence isnt 4.2 fast, which is what gives Al "the evil emperor" Davis a boner, other than his viagra perscription.

[DumbHillbillies]

Yes, bring her in.... I mean him in.

[HotRoute]

GIVE ME A BREAK.

If that doesn't tell you that this team's roster completely sucked (sucks) ass, nothing will.

so your going to tell me T.Gonzalez, D.Bowe, B.Waters, L.Johnson, B.Carr, B.Flowers, J.Page, D.Johnson, D. Colquitt, D. Edwards, T. Law, P.Surtain, J. Allen, C.Wiegman, P.Holmes/K.Turley [on IR] were no better then what the lions or raiders have been playing with over the last 2 years?

you sir , can give me a break, lol.

[DaneMcCloud]

so your going to tell me T.Gonzalez, D.Bowe, B.Waters, L.Johnson, B.Carr, B.Flowers, J.Page, D.Johnson, D. Colquitt, D. Edwards, T. Law, P.Surtain, J. Allen, C.Wiegman, P.Holmes/K.Turley [on IR] were no better then what the lions or raiders have been playing with over the last 2 years?

you sir , can give me a break, lol.

Urine idiot.

The Detroit Lions were 7-9 in 2007. The Raiders were the same as the Chiefs, 4-12.

Last year, all three teams sucked ass but the Lions and Raiders definitely had more talent on their respective teams than did the Chiefs at the beginning of 2009.

[Micjones]

We just might have a shot at Baskett.
It's been reported that David Tyree was worked out by the Rams today.

[htismaqe]

Urine idiot.

The Detroit Lions were 7-9 in 2007. The Raiders were the same as the Chiefs, 4-12.

Last year, all three teams sucked ass but the Lions and Raiders definitely had more talent on their respective teams than did the Chiefs at the beginning of 2009.

I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

Great post.

[Micjones]

I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

I think there can be a further distinction between talent and athleticism can be made.

We have several physically gifted players who do not translate that into productivity on the field.

[DaneMcCloud]

I think there can be a further distinction between talent and athleticism can be made.

We have several physically gifted players who do not translate that into productivity on the field.

Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

[Brock]

Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

Derrick Johnson.

[DaneMcCloud]

Derrick Johnson.

After more than four seasons of watching Derrick Johnson, I think the guy was extremely overrated by scouts.

Maybe he's gifted athletically but the guy is just not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

[Brock]

After more than four seasons of watching Derrick Johnson, I think the guy was extremely overrated by scouts.

Maybe he's gifted athletically but the guy is just not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

Whatever his problem is, he's a crazy athletic talent that should have been a third round pick.

[keg in kc]

I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league. Their best team, which was the best team in the league that year, didn't even win the title, although I thought that was more a fluke than anything. We may never see another team that good in our lifetime.

Anyway, how many years running have the Chargers been the most talented team in the NFL? Unfortunately for them they're also consistently one of the most inconsistent teams in the NFL.

[Micjones]

Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

Devard Darling before he was placed on IR.
That guy might be one of the most physically gifted WR's on this team and that never amounted to much on the field.

Derrick Johnson's another player... Though I'd argue that his biggest problem was being taken 15th overall.
He crumbles under the weight of expectations. If you forget where he was drafted... He's been a fairly productive LB.

[Micjones]

I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league.

I'm not sure that I agree. They were never the most athletic team in the league, but they were always talented. They had guys who could flat play the game even if they weren't terribly fast or strong.

[DaneMcCloud]

Devard Darling before he was placed on IR.
That guy might be one of the most physically gifted WR's on this team and that never amounted to much on the field.

Derrick Johnson's another player... Though I'd argue that his biggest problem was being taken 15th overall.
He crumbles under the weight of expectations. If you forget where he was drafted... He's been a fairly productive LB.

I don't know about Darling. I've heard "reports" from people I don't trust that he's athletic and so on but we've certainly never seen it. Plus, the guy was late third rounder cut by a team in desperate need of wide receivers.

DJ is a bust, plain and simple. The guy makes one great play ever 900 snaps.

[htismaqe]

I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league. Their best team, which was the best team in the league that year, didn't even win the title, although I thought that was more a fluke than anything. We may never see another team that good in our lifetime.

Anyway, how many years running have the Chargers been the most talented team in the NFL? Unfortunately for them they're also consistently one of the most inconsistent teams in the NFL.

Because talent is only one of the pieces. The Patriots had the team chemistry, they had EXTREME discipline, and of course, they had some of the best coaching in the history of the game. They were overloaded with intangibles, so they could get away with lacking some talent.

That being said, I think some people are underestimating some of the talent they did have, but that's another discussion.

As for the Chargers, take the same idea and put it in reverse. The Chargers have all kinds of talent, but look at some of the personalities on that team, like Merriman. Or better yet, take a look at their $92M QB. Yeah, I know, he's talented. I'm also not firmly convinced that he isn't a big baby either. He's gonna have to get more mentally tough if he wants to be a SB champion. Sprinkle some Norv dust over the top and you have the perfect recipe for an example where LACK of intangibles hinders talent.

You have to have ALL OF THE ABOVE to win it all. It's as simple as that.

But like Coach Todd Haley says, "talent is the great equalizer."

[htismaqe]

Whatever his problem is, he's a crazy athletic talent that should have been a third round pick.

My case in point. Perfect example.

[htismaqe]

Great post.

Hey man, did you hear what Haley said in his presser today?

Hopefully, it can put to rest some of the "53 right guys" stuff, no? ;)

[Micjones]

DJ is a bust, plain and simple. The guy makes one great play ever 900 snaps.

If the definition for the word "bust" can be confined to 'player that hasn't lived up to his draft position'... Certainly.

But he's the kind of bust I'd like to have IF we have to have one.
He's still been productive. Just not as productive as he should be given where he was drafted.

[MahiMike]

I feel like I'm setting my fantasy team here - picking up all kinds of guys off the waiver wire after the 1st week...

[keg in kc]

That being said, I think some people are underestimating some of the talent they did have, but that's another discussion.Ironically, their best talent was primarily in the positions where we've been locking up talent recently. Quarterback. Defensive line.

They never had the best linebackers, but they played together *as a group* better than anybody else. Once Law and Milloy were gone, they didn't have much marquee talent in the secondary either, at least not that I recall. What they did have were savvy vets and young players, mixed in a way that seems oddly familiar. Offensively, until Moss and Welker, they were pedestrian at receiver, and even with Corey Dillon they've never had a marquee running back. They focused a lot on tight end. Their o-line was always good but I don't think they were ever the best.

What they did is mold the talent they had together until it became a machine.

[htismaqe]

If the definition for the word "bust" can be confined to 'player that hasn't lived up to his draft position'... Certainly.

But he's the kind of bust I'd like to have IF we have to have one.
He's still been productive. Just not as productive as he should be given where he was drafted.

The problem with DJ is that he's not disciplined and he's not consistent. If he were making one play and then disappearing for one play, that would be one thing.

DJ's lack of discipline and poor decision making have actually caused some of our problems over the last few years.

[booger]

Rams | R. Martin agrees to terms

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:47:55 -0700

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the St. Louis Rams have agreed to terms on a new contract with free-agent WR Ruvell Martin (Packers), according to a source close to Martin. He is expected to be at practice Wednesday, Sept. 16.





Maybe they won't claim Baskett now. Martin is pretty much the same size.

[R&GHomer]

I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league. Their best team, which was the best team in the league that year, didn't even win the title, although I thought that was more a fluke than anything. We may never see another team that good in our lifetime.

Anyway, how many years running have the Chargers been the most talented team in the NFL? Unfortunately for them they're also consistently one of the most inconsistent teams in the NFL.

Might not be the best 53 athletically but they are the best 53 for this team. Like it or not this isn't just the lip service
we've come to expect over the last two decades. We'll have our stars. I'm sure of it

[DaneMcCloud]

Might not be the best 53 athletically but they are the best 53 for this team. Like it or not this isn't just the lip service
we've come to expect over the last two decades. We'll have our stars. I'm sure of it

IMO, this "The Best 53" nonsense is just that.

The "Best 53" will continue to change until this roster has been all but completely overhauled.

The "Best 53" won't be in place until they win a Championship.

[booger]

Wilson: Baskett expected to draw heavy interest
Wide receiver waived today by Eagles

Aaron Wilson

September 15, 2009, 07:48 PM EST

Now that wide receiver Hank Baskett has been placed on waivers by the Philadelphia Eagles, he's liable to draw heavy interest on waivers.

Before he was let go by Philadelphia, several teams contacted the Eagles about prospective trades for Baskett.

That included the Tennessee Titans, Chicago Bears, St. Louis Rams, Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns,Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Kansas City Chiefs, according to a league source.
Baskett caught one pass for six yards Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. For his career, he has registered 72 receptions for 1,052 yards and six touchdowns.

Baskett received the second-round restricted tender of $1.545 million this year, so any team that claims him would assume that salary.

In 2006, Baskett became the second rookie in NFL history to post two touchdown receptions of 85 yards or more in a single season since the Green Bay Packers' Billy Howton did so in 1952


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Baskett-expected-to-draw-heavy-interest.html

[Reerun_KC]

Has he signed yet?

[Sure-Oz]

http://twitter.com/hankbaskett84 probably fake

[htismaqe]

IMO, this "The Best 53" nonsense is just that.

The "Best 53" will continue to change until this roster has been all but completely overhauled.

The "Best 53" won't be in place until they win a Championship.

Did anybody actually listen to Haley's press conference today?

HALEY: “Again, I’m looking for guys who do it the way we want it done. Like I tell them: are you doing it how we’re coaching you and then it comes down to how well are you able to do it. Talent is the great separator. There may be some guys who are doing it the way we want it done but maybe they’re just not good enough. Then maybe there are some guys that probably potentially could be really good but they’re not doing it the way we want it done.

In other words, when they say they want the RIGHT 53, they're looking for a combination of talent AND work ethic. Notice the underlined portion of the quote: to him, those two guys - the guy that works hard but isn't talented, and the guy that's talented but doesn't work hard - are EQUAL.

Also, note the bolded part. And enjoy my sig. Thanks! :)

[booger]

Has he signed yet?

gotta go through waivers.

[Sure-Oz]

gotta go through waivers.

So who is ahead of us?

[DeezNutz]

So who is ahead of us?

Lions and Rams.

[htismaqe]

Lions and Rams.

And it looks like the Rams might have signed Ruvell Martin, who is in the same mold as Baskett.

Don't really think the Lions would want him, but you never know.

[Sure-Oz]

Lions and Rams.

Hmm...hope we get him, we might have atleast an avg wr corp if we do

[Sure-Oz]

And it looks like the Rams might have signed Ruvell Martin, who is in the same mold as Baskett.

Don't really think the Lions would want him, but you never know.

They dont need another WR just throw it to CJ every pass play

[DeezNutz]

And it looks like the Rams might have signed Ruvell Martin, who is in the same mold as Baskett.

Don't really think the Lions would want him, but you never know.

Hmm...hope we get him, we might have atleast an avg wr corp if we do

Agree with both you guys.

It would be pretty cool for a respectable group of receivers (in theory, anyway) to fall into our lap.

[R&GHomer]

IMO, this "The Best 53" nonsense is just that.

The "Best 53" will continue to change until this roster has been all but completely overhauled.

The "Best 53" won't be in place until they win a Championship.

I agree, in their minds this is the best 53 at the moment and it's subject to change at any given moment. But it's a process and I for one welcome the change. Carl, Gun, DV and Herm would stand pat or make changes only when they could save face.

I don't know if Pioli can re-create the machine that is the Pats, but he is doing it his way and so is the coach for that matter. When Haily took over the offense I about shit myself. First year head coach shouldering all the responsibility? Takes balls if you ask me, these guys seem accountable and that alone is reason to tip back a beer and welcome the future.

Hell, my fiance and I were watching the game and she made a comment, ahhhh it's the chiefs, they'll just do the same old stupid things and screw it up. I was actually speechless, all I could think to say was "these aren't the Chiefs" but of course they are, but you know what I'm saying. In the end... they did :spock: but they made adjustments throughout the game and I actually believed they could pull it off. If it was Herm and company... hell no, I would have been folding clothes or something.

[DeezNutz]

"The best 53" is the new "gleam."

[htismaqe]

Why is everybody ignoring me?!?!?! :huh:

Did anybody actually listen to Haley's press conference today?

HALEY: “Again, I’m looking for guys who do it the way we want it done. Like I tell them: are you doing it how we’re coaching you and then it comes down to how well are you able to do it. Talent is the great separator. There may be some guys who are doing it the way we want it done but maybe they’re just not good enough. Then maybe there are some guys that probably potentially could be really good but they’re not doing it the way we want it done.

In other words, when they say they want the RIGHT 53, they're looking for a combination of talent AND work ethic. Notice the underlined portion of the quote: to him, those two guys - the guy that works hard but isn't talented, and the guy that's talented but doesn't work hard - are EQUAL.

Also, note the bolded part. And enjoy my sig. Thanks! :)

[DeezNutz]

Why is everybody ignoring me?!?!?! :huh:

What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...

[R&GHomer]

"The best 53" is the new "gleam."

Always thought that sounded gay, but you know what. That was the last Chiefs coach to actually field a team, a real fucking team.

If it's "not that I believe it is" the new gleam "so be it" but there is much, much more to it. Marty is a great coach, and can no doubt build a damn good team, but what he lacks "IMHO" is getting all the pieces to fit together. I think he changed his style a little with the chargers and he almost pulled it off.

The the owner came in Carl style and they went their separate ways. Now all you here is How the Chargers are the most talented team to never win a Superbowl. Hmmmm

[R&GHomer]

What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...

Sorry, he can hit the fucking bricks. It's a slap in the face with what they are trying to do. Marty on the other hand would do it and well, as much as I want a good team, I want one to win the superbowl. Look at pitt, NE, all the good ones. I watched Owens the other night and kind of felt sorry for him. Asshole is never going to get it. Moss seems to

[DeezNutz]

Always thought that sounded gay, but you know what. That was the last Chiefs coach to actually field a team, a real ****ing team.

If it's "not that I believe it is" the new gleam "so be it" but there is much, much more to it. Marty is a great coach, and can no doubt build a damn good team, but what he lacks "IMHO" is getting all the pieces to fit together. I think he changed his style a little with the chargers and he almost pulled it off.

The the owner came in Carl style and they went their separate ways. Now all you here is How the Chargers are the most talented team to never win a Superbowl. Hmmmm

If you need one coach to prepare a team well and win a regular season game, no matter how shitty the overall talent level on the roster, Marty would be a damn fine choice. Dude can flat out coach.

Unfortunately, that's not the ultimate goal, and, for whatever reason, Marty isn't a closer.

Too bad, really.

My positive Marty feelings all came back when I saw him at DT's induction ceremony.

[Sure-Oz]

It's too bad marty didn't win 1 SB, he is a great coach imo

[htismaqe]

What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...

I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.

[DeezNutz]

I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.

Moss pre-NE might be the only exception I can think of...

He was pretty sick in MN but left with nothing to show for it, so it still ends up supporting your assertion above.

Good point.

[Buehler445]

Did anybody actually listen to Haley's press conference today?

HALEY: “Again, I’m looking for guys who do it the way we want it done. Like I tell them: are you doing it how we’re coaching you and then it comes down to how well are you able to do it. Talent is the great separator. There may be some guys who are doing it the way we want it done but maybe they’re just not good enough. Then maybe there are some guys that probably potentially could be really good but they’re not doing it the way we want it done.

In other words, when they say they want the RIGHT 53, they're looking for a combination of talent AND work ethic. Notice the underlined portion of the quote: to him, those two guys - the guy that works hard but isn't talented, and the guy that's talented but doesn't work hard - are EQUAL.

Also, note the bolded part. And enjoy my sig. Thanks! :)


I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.

Why is everybody ignoring me?!?!?! :huh:


Fine. I'll play. When he made the "53" comment, he probably thought that the fanbase wouldn't be such go-tards and think he could win with highschoolers with big hearts. Either that or he didn't realize what kind of douchebags Herm put on the field last year.

FTR, I think Bowe COULD be a Fitz type talent if he had Fitz type FOCUS and WORK ETHIC. Which he currently does not.

There happy? :p

[htismaqe]

Moss pre-NE might be the only exception I can think of...

He was pretty sick in MN but left with nothing to show for it, so it still ends up supporting your assertion above.

Good point.

Yeah, I thought about Moss especially. But then I remembered how many conference championships he won prior to arriving in New England.

So I'll stand by it - I think the truly great players have the talent AND the work ethic.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah, I thought about Moss especially. But then I remembered how many conference championships he won prior to arriving in New England.

So I'll stand by it - I think the truly great players have the talent AND the work ethic.

Absolutely, you do not get to that kind of level without working your tail off.

[R&GHomer]

I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.

I believe in the philosophy Pioli and Haley are bringing to this franchise. Talent is paramount, but equally, so is discipline, dedication and hard work. If you build a team, you do it as a team. When your on the field you work as a unit, the WR is no more important than a gunner on Special teams. Sure the WR may have more god given talent, but both do there jobs the way it's coached and at a 100%.

The more talented player see's his reward on his paycheck, the ego shouldn't be a part of it. No one should get a free pass, period. That being said, sometimes you have to make exceptions for aging vets and keeping them healthy.

[TEX]

IMO, Hank is absolutely worth a look. Haley might be able to get the best out of him.

[Micjones]

IMO, Hank is absolutely worth a look. Haley might be able to get the best out of him.

Agreed. Hopefully they put in a claim for Baskett.

[Sure-Oz]

When do we find out

[Micjones]

When do we find out

I'm guessing we'll know something by Friday one way or another.

[Micjones]

Well now...

Turns out that Chiefs' brass made a call inquiring about how they might acquire Baskett in a trade when it was believed that Philly was shopping him. They were one of 6 teams. The bad news? So was St. Louis.

So there is a chance that if he clears waivers that he'll join this team.

Then again...
They probably made this call BEFORE adding Bobby Wade so there's a chance that this is all moot.

[Titty Meat]

Whered you hear this at Micjones?

[DaneMcCloud]

Well now...

Turns out that Chiefs' brass made a call inquiring about how they might acquire Baskett in a trade when it was believed that Philly was shopping him. They were one of 6 teams. The bad news? So was St. Louis.

So there is a chance that if he clears waivers that he'll join this team.

Then again...
They probably made this call BEFORE adding Bobby Wade so there's a chance that this is all moot.


I'm almost certain, as I said this morning, that Spags put a claim in for him.

[Mecca]

Hank Baskett is married to a playboy chick......so he>Brodie Croyle.

[Dylan]

I only had a chance to read the first page --

I had a feeling the Eagles were going to cut Hank Baskett --

Baskett played on special teams -- The Eagles rarely used him as WR -- especially during the last two seasons.

Baskett is tall-- But, he couldn't hold on to the ball. -- I'm pretty sure that's why he was demoted to special teams.

[Extra Point]

Hank Baskett is married to a playboy chick......so he>Brodie Croyle.
Croyle hasn't screwed up his career, LITERALLY.

[htismaqe]

Well now...

Turns out that Chiefs' brass made a call inquiring about how they might acquire Baskett in a trade when it was believed that Philly was shopping him. They were one of 6 teams. The bad news? So was St. Louis.

So there is a chance that if he clears waivers that he'll join this team.

Then again...
They probably made this call BEFORE adding Bobby Wade so there's a chance that this is all moot.

No worries. The call from the Rams probably came before they signed Ruvell Martin. And Martin is much closer in build/skills to Baskett than Wade is.

In other words, we still have a need while the Rams might not.

[Kylo Ren]

SIGN HIM!!

......... and release who? Personally, I'd rather release Engram than Copper. I know everyone hates Copper. But, he's younger and has greater "upside" (I hate that over used term) than Engram who is on his last legs. Copper could at least develop into something for the future. But, Engram is not going to be apart of this team's future.

I wish we could trade Thiggy or Guti. Even for a low draft pick. We don't need to carry 4 QBs.

[htismaqe]

SIGN HIM!!

......... and release who? Personally, I'd rather release Engram than Copper. I know everyone hates Copper. But, he's younger and has greater "upside" (I hate that over used term) than Engram who is on his last legs. Copper could at least develop into something for the future. But, Engram is not going to be apart of this team's future.

I wish we could trade Thigpen or Guti. Even for a low draft pick. We don't need to carry 4 QBs.

Is Copper REALLY part of the future? I mean, we heard the same thing about Samie Parker and Jeff Webb and the list goes on and on and on.

I mean, who cares? Engram can produce this season. NEITHER of them are likely to be part of the future.

[doomy3]

The Rams waived two players today....

Wonder if they're making room for Baskett?

[ModSocks]

SIGN HIM!!

......... and release who? Personally, I'd rather release Engram than Copper. I know everyone hates Copper. But, he's younger and has greater "upside" (I hate that over used term) than Engram who is on his last legs. Copper could at least develop into something for the future. But, Engram is not going to be apart of this team's future.

I wish we could trade Thigpen or Guti. Even for a low draft pick. We don't need to carry 4 QBs.

Eh, i would keep Engram, though i wouldn't care if he was released. We already have another copper type of Player in Wade. I'd cut Copper and bring in Baskett.

Baskett has always seemed like he has a boat load of talent to me. He has the size speed, I've seen him make some nice grabs. Wonder why he isn't a top 3 WR for the Eagles?

[ModSocks]

The Rams waived two players today....

Wonder if they're making room for Baskett?

I hope not. It makes sense though. Damn those Rams. Don't they know that Jeff Webb is available?

[DaneMcCloud]

I hope not. It makes sense though. Damn those Rams. Don't they know that Jeff Webb is available?

I mentioned this early yesterday. Baskett was in Philly at the same time as Spags. It seems like a no-brainer that St. Louis would claim him.

[MahiMike]

um, why would we want a guy that can't make Philly's lineup? He ain't all that.

[DaneMcCloud]

um, why would we want a guy that can't make Philly's lineup? He ain't all that.

:shake:

[nychief]

this guy is not really that good.

[htismaqe]

I mentioned this early yesterday. Baskett was in Philly at the same time as Spags. It seems like a no-brainer that St. Louis would claim him.

Except that they signed Ruvell Martin. Unless they're looking for 2 guys like that (and they very well could be).

[htismaqe]

this guy is not really that good.

I've always said that better than bad does not equal good.

The corollary to that is that better than bad is STILL BETTER.

[doomy3]

this guy is not really that good.

I agree. He is not that good. But, he is probably still better than Copper. I definitely didn't want to give up a draft pick for him, but I wouldn't mind taking a flier on him if we get him for a waiver claim.

[Coogs]

I definitely didn't want to give up a draft pick for him

Since we already gave Miami our 7th for O'Connell, and who knows what for the two O-linemen, I would have to agree with this one.

[Bill Lundberg]

@Adam_Schefter (http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter)Would be surprised if anyone claimed Hank Baskett on waivers today. They'd have to assume his $1.5 million contract -- I'd guess no one does

...

[Mr. Laz]

nice post Bill

[DaneMcCloud]

Just saw that Tweet: So are we to assume that no one claimed Baskett?

[Bill Lundberg]

Just saw that Tweet: So are we to assume that no one claimed Baskett?

I would think we'd have heard about it by now. What time was his release yesterday? Teams have 24 hours to claim him, correct?

[DaneMcCloud]

I would think we'd have heard about it by now. What time was his release yesterday? Teams have 24 hours to claim him, correct?

Yeah but I think it would be end of business today, 5pm EST, before we know for sure.

[SAUTO]

Yeah but I think it would be end of business today, 5pm EST, before we know for sure.

you would think for 1.5 mil we would be all over him, we have money to spare for sure

[Bill Lundberg]

you would think for 1.5 mil we would be all over him, we have money to spare for sure

Just because we have it doesn't mean we spend it unwisely.

[DaneMcCloud]

you would think for 1.5 mil we would be all over him, we have money to spare for sure

Maybe, maybe not. For all we know, he doesn't fit their idea of the "Best 53".

I'm still trying to figure out Copper is in that equation.

[Micjones]

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll go to St. Louis.
They signed Ruvell Martin AND David Tyree's been in for a workout.

[Micjones]

Just because we have it doesn't mean we spend it unwisely.

It would be unwise to upgrade the WR position with a player who is clearly better than the one who is currently occupying a roster spot?

[Dylan]

Eh, i would keep Engram, though i wouldn't care if he was released. We already have another copper type of Player in Wade. I'd cut Copper and bring in Baskett.

Baskett has always seemed like he has a boat load of talent to me. He has the size speed, I've seen him make some nice grabs. Wonder why he isn't a top 3 WR for the Eagles?


Baskett seemed promising during his rookie year - but then came the drops -- I/M/O, Hank had trouble running the right routes.

I was surprised Baskett lasted this long on special teams. The Eagles felt he was a good special teams blocker, he would be on the team. Honestly, I was surprised he made the team at the end of preseason.

I'm not sure if the Eagles had Baskett listed as a reserve. However, if he was -- I’d expect him to be dead last. The Eagles have younger and much better receivers on their roster.

Just my observations of Baskett through the years.

[Chiefnj2]

KC should claim him. Ticket sales will increase just to see Kendra in some skimpy Chiefs gear.

[Dylan]

KC should claim him. Ticket sales will increase just to see Kendra in some skimpy Chiefs gear.

LMAO

but not on Pioli & Haley's dime. ...

Sometimes it's the players agents feeding the media on teams that are interested in their client. Honestly, I believe that's the case here. Could be wrong

sorry for all the grammatical errors -- i'm at work

[Micjones]

It may or may not matter, but the Chiefs added Lance Long to their roster so they may feel that they've adequately addressed the WR spot.

[Bill Lundberg]

It would be unwise to upgrade the WR position with a player who is clearly better than the one who is currently occupying a roster spot?

If 31 other teams pass on him at that price tag then, I would say, yes it's unwise. Besides, who says he's clearly better? The guy has yet to be anything other than potential.

[ModSocks]

If 31 other teams pass on him at that price tag then, I would say, yes it's unwise. Besides, who says he's clearly better? The guy has yet to be anything other than potential.

But at least he HAS TALENT. Something, oh say, Copper, doesn't have much of

[Buehler445]

...

you would think for 1.5 mil we would be all over him, we have money to spare for sure

This 1.5 MIL isn't all that much.

If 31 other teams pass on him at that price tag then, I would say, yes it's unwise. Besides, who says he's clearly better? The guy has yet to be anything other than potential.

IIRC he had some nice catches in the playoffs one year. I think he was Donovan's go to guy before they upgraded the position.

[DaneMcCloud]

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[Bill Lundberg]

Posted via Mobile Device

I'm calling Bullshit on this one.

[gta0012]

Well his GF is a HUGE chargers fan so this would be hilarious if we picked him up.

I think he is a more solid option then some of the WR's we have. Eagles have a lot of young Wr's hence why he was let go.

But who needs WR's when our line blows dick and can't give the qb anytime anyway.

[Dylan]

are my posts invisible?

just checking. ... LMAO

[Micjones]

If 31 other teams pass on him at that price tag then, I would say, yes it's unwise. Besides, who says he's clearly better? The guy has yet to be anything other than potential.

I love this brand of logic. If another team is uninterested...
It must mean that he can't be valuable to the Chiefs.

He's better than Copper. By a mile.
Copper's last catch was in 2007.
Baskett's proven he can stretch the field.

[Titty Meat]

The Rams signed a WR yesterday so are they still interested in Baskett?

[ModSocks]

The Rams signed a WR yesterday so are they still interested in Baskett?

I don't know, both teams are so early in the waiver wire that you would think a team like the Rams or Chiefs would have claimed him by now. Don't we have till 5 est today to find out?

[Micjones]

I don't know, both teams are so early in the waiver wire that you would think a team like the Rams or Chiefs would have claimed him by now. Don't we have till 5 est today to find out?

The Chiefs may feel that they're set at WR now.
I'll bet Long is activated before...well...long.

[Bill Lundberg]

I love this brand of logic. If another team is uninterested...
It must mean that he can't be valuable to the Chiefs.

He's better than Copper. By a mile.
Copper's last catch was in 2007.
Baskett's proven he can stretch the field.

It's not a matter of whether or not he's valuable it's at what price is he valuable. I can wash my car for $3 and get it pretty clean or I can pay $16 and have it somewhat cleaner. I'd rather save the $13.00 unless I know there is some real benefit to a somewhat cleaner car (ie. getting to the promise land).

Is Baskett our ticket to the promise land?

I should clarify that I would really like to have Baskett on the Chiefs, I just can't see the logic of paying him more than anyone else would just because we have it.

[Mr. Laz]

are my posts invisible?

just checking. ... LMAO
It's your clothes that are invisible, if you take them off then we will be able to see you.

pics too plox :evil:

[Micjones]

It's not a matter of whether or not he's valuable it's at what price is he valuable. I can wash my car for $3 and get it pretty clean or I can pay $16 and have it somewhat cleaner. I'd rather save the $13.00 unless I know there is some real benefit to a somewhat cleaner car (ie. getting to the promise land).

This team has money to burn. Remember prior to signing Wade we were almost $9M UNDER the cap floor. $1.5M isn't exactly going to put us in Salary Cap Hell if things don't work out.

Is Baskett our ticket to the promise land?

No, but that's a moot point. No one player will ever accomplish that all on his own. Building a winning football team requires upgrading several positions until the overall talent level of said team is improved. It's a collection of individual signings that will turn this team around. Baskett can help and is a better option than Terrance Copper.

[ModSocks]

Maybe he just doesn't fit into the "right 53" mold. Pioli wants players that are all about football. Live, breath, die football.

Maybe they think his relationship with Kendra and the reality show will distract him from dedicating himself to football.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Maybe he just doesn't fit into the "right 53" mold. Pioli wants players that are all about football. Live, breath, die football.

Maybe they think his relationship with Kendra and the reality show will distract him from dedicating himself to football.

This, i was just thinking the same thing

[Bill Lundberg]

@AdamSchefter As expected, WR Hank Baskett went unclaimed on waivers. He's now free to sign with any team. Baltimore would not surprise me...

[DumbHillbillies]

..

:cuss: Another one of my dreams crushed.

[Quesadilla Joe]

He is signing with the Colts.

Not that there was a doubt but Marvin Harrison will not be back with Colts. Indianapolis will sign former Eagles WR Hank Baskett today.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/4051791020

[LaChapelle]

His name sounds like something you might find on the floor, in the corner, of a peep show booth anyway.

[htismaqe]

Maybe he just doesn't fit into the "right 53" mold. Pioli wants players that are all about football. Live, breath, die football.

Maybe they think his relationship with Kendra and the reality show will distract him from dedicating himself to football.

It also might be that he has some speed, but he doesn't have stellar hands.