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Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 06:09 PM
http://kan.scout.com/2/900180.html

When the Chiefs last hosted the Oakland Raiders, in 2008, things weren’t so different than they are now. It was Week 2, both teams were 0-1, the Chiefs were coming off a competitive loss on the road to a good team, the Raiders boasted an impressive trio of running backs, and neither Oakland nor Kansas City were expected to compete for the playoffs.

Last season’s contest ended in a disappointing 23-8 loss for the Chiefs. As another parallel, backup Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859) started the game because of an injury to former starter Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307425). While unlikely, it’s possible Croyle, now playing the role of backup, could start for the injured Matt Cassel (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4210794) this Sunday.

With Cassel’s status still in question, JaMarcus Russell (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249031) still leading the Raiders' beleaguered passing game (though it looked pretty decent last week), and Kansas City’s defense allowing Baltimore 500 yards of total offense last week, a repeat of last season’s game looks quite likely this Sunday.

In their victory over the Chiefs last year, the Raiders’ backfield combined for 300 yards rushing, while Russell struggled to only 55 passing yards. Darren McFadden (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249023) led all rushers with 164 yards and a touchdown. Michael Bush (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249003) and Justin Fargas (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4249008) combined for another 133 rushing yards.

This year, head coach Todd Haley is well aware of Oakland‘s rushing attack.

“They are a great trio of backs,” he said. “I don’t like to throw the word great around, but I think that they are. McFadden coming out was one of my favorite players. He is a hard running son of a gun. He hits it hard, so you better be ready. Bush is another guy I really liked coming out. Had some injury issues that kind of got lost in the shuffle, but when I saw his name go out to Oakland , I thought to myself, they got something there. Fargas is a guy that if you’re paying attention every year, you see him and what he does. He makes plays. He’s probably the most elusive of the group. But they each bring a little something different to the table.”

One of the major issues with Kansas City’s loss last weekend to Baltimore was the time their defense spent on the field. Baltimore ran 85 offensive plays, and the Chiefs didn’t muster their initial first down until late in the second quarter, allowing fatigue to set in. If KC’s offense starts off as slowly as they did last week, their defense could be looking at another long day at the office, especially with Oakland’s ability to run the ball.

“As I said after the game, despite the fact that the offense didn’t turn over the ball, we’ve got to help keep the defense fresh,” said Haley. “Three-and-outs don’t cut it, and part of eliminating three-and-outs is running the football, I think, and converting on third down, and we’ve got to do both of those, obviously, obviously better.”

If the Chiefs want to keep their defense off the field longer this week and convert more third downs, their running game will be key. One, to keep the clock moving, and two, to make their third-down attempts shorter. Considering what KC’s running game did last week against Baltimore - a total of 29 rushing yards - the task of beating the Raiders looks ominous.

However, the Chiefs believe they weren’t far away from running the ball more successfully against the Ravens.

“I guess coach said it best - there was just a couple plays where we were just one block away,” said tackle Ike Ndukwe. “It was just one guy, but that one guy on each play will get you beat. We can’t leave our defense out there the way that we did. As an offense and an offensive line, we should pride ourselves in moving the ball.”

Ndukwe is one of two new starters on KC’s offensive line, and if the Chiefs are going to move the ball on the ground against Oakland, he and fellow newcomer Mike Goff (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307449) will have to learn how to play together quickly.

“I think one of the biggest things about the offensive line is time,” said Ndukwe. “You’ve got to play together, and it’s going to take some time. But hopefully sooner than later we definitely get to gel a lot better. We definitely didn’t play well enough, but we did some things well, but we have some improvements to make.”

While watching last week’s poor running performance won’t give many Chiefs fans hope heading into Week 2, maybe running back Larry Johnson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307530)’s vote of confidence will.

“I’ve seen a lot of bright spots out of the new guys that came onto this offensive line,” he said. “As long as there’s Brian Waters (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307563), who’s been there with me a long period of time and can get these guys going in the right direction, then we should be good.”

keg in kc
09-17-2009, 06:16 PM
With...JaMarcus Russell still leading the Raiders' beleaguered passing game (though it looked pretty decent last week)I'd say that's a pretty loose interpretation of "pretty decent".

Gadzooks
09-17-2009, 06:23 PM
Michael Bush will inflict the most damage on the D.
Prey and hope they try to expand on the aerial assault because if they run those 3 at you all day it's not gonna be easy.
A Jassmarcus breakdown is the best thing you guys can hope for.
After that, Bowe will be well watched by Assamooga, so a solid performance by LJ may be your only hope.
http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/715/715240/star-wars-episode-iv-a-new-hope-limited-edition-20060627040646167-000.jpg

L.A. Chieffan
09-17-2009, 06:34 PM
im gonna go out on a limb and say lj aint gonna do shit

Gadzooks
09-17-2009, 06:34 PM
im gonna go out on a limb and say lj aint gonna do shit

I didn't wanna say it.

TEX
09-17-2009, 08:12 PM
Fact is, the Raiders are a bad matchup for the Chiefs.

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 08:23 PM
Look at what Oakland did to the Chargers' d-line on this play. Travis Johnson, Jamal Williams and Igor Olshansky got FUCKED UP.

http://i26.tinypic.com/j1809u.jpg

T-post Tom
09-17-2009, 08:26 PM
"When the Chiefs last hosted the Oakland Raiders, in 2008, things weren’t so different than they are now."

You lost me at hello.

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 08:29 PM
Here is another one. Jesum crow.

http://i31.tinypic.com/24engjm.jpg

Chiefs=Champions
09-17-2009, 08:34 PM
Here is another one. Jesum crow.

http://i31.tinypic.com/24engjm.jpg

Dont worry our great linebackers and safties can come up to make the play! oh wait............. :sulk:

Hog's Gone Fishin
09-17-2009, 08:34 PM
Look at what Oakland did to the Chargers' d-line on this play. Travis Johnson, Jamal Williams and Igor Olshansky got FUCKED UP.

http://i26.tinypic.com/j1809u.jpg



Yes. But they were playing on a baseball field.

LOCOChief
09-17-2009, 09:15 PM
I didn't wanna say it.


I'll go out on a limb, Raiders sweep the Chargers and possibly win the division. I hate to think of them having this kind of success, but it won't bother me one bit when they kick the shit out of SD.

Most talented team to not win a championship my ass.

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 09:16 PM
I'll go out on a limb, Raiders sweep the Chargers

Uhhhh....FAIL

LOCOChief
09-17-2009, 09:18 PM
Uhhhh....FAIL

Explain

milkman
09-17-2009, 09:19 PM
Explain

Do you watch any games other than Chiefs?

LOCOChief
09-17-2009, 09:23 PM
Do you watch any games other than Chiefs?

Yeah, it's week two, and I said that I would go out on a limb. The only thing in my mind that prevents the Raiders from accomplishing what I said in my post would be Russell. Either way when it comes to the Raiders or SD, I say Raiders.

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 09:23 PM
Yeah, it's week two, and I said that I would go out on a limb. The only thing in my mind that prevents the Raiders from accomplishing what I said in my post would be Russell. Either way when it comes to the Raiders or SD, I say Raiders.

San Diego beat Oakland in Week 1.

milkman
09-17-2009, 09:25 PM
Yeah, it's week two, and I said that I would go out on a limb. The only thing in my mind that prevents the Raiders from accomplishing what I said in my post would be Russell. Either way when it comes to the Raiders or SD, I say Raiders.

LMAO

Perhaps you should have looked at a scoreboard before talking out of your ass.

LOCOChief
09-17-2009, 09:28 PM
LMAO

Perhaps you should have looked at a scoreboard before talking out of your ass.

I guess that blows my sweep theory. That was the late game come to think of it, now I understand the FAIL part.

Give me my beating.

Mecca
09-17-2009, 09:34 PM
It's Luis Castillo not Olshansky.

LOCOChief
09-17-2009, 09:37 PM
I can't believe that I spewed that dumb shit for my 1,000 post. That's the reason I try to keep my daily post count down.

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 09:45 PM
It's Luis Castillo not Olshansky.

Either way...Tyson Jackson is in for a rough afternoon methinks.

BossChief
09-17-2009, 09:52 PM
Isnt olshansky a cowboy?

Ugly Duck
09-17-2009, 09:57 PM
Isnt olshansky a cowboy?

Thats what I thought....

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 09:58 PM
What the fock is this shit?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2u9tuf7.jpg

Brock
09-17-2009, 10:01 PM
That's First Downs Elvis.

soundmind
09-17-2009, 10:01 PM
What the fock is this shit?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2u9tuf7.jpg

That's Kathy's brother....duh.

BossChief
09-17-2009, 10:03 PM
Elvis will never die

Hammock Parties
09-17-2009, 10:17 PM
Dear god.

http://i28.tinypic.com/23hk57m.jpg

Ugly Duck
09-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Dear god.

http://i28.tinypic.com/23hk57m.jpg

Dude.... that is not God...

Chiefs=Champions
09-18-2009, 12:00 AM
Dear god.

http://i28.tinypic.com/23hk57m.jpg

IM SO MEEEAN! I SCARE MYSELF!

htismaqe
09-18-2009, 07:15 AM
That's First Downs Elvis.

Downs? If that was intentional, it's hilarious.

Horribly insensitive, but hilarious nonetheless. :D

htismaqe
09-18-2009, 07:19 AM
Either way...Tyson Jackson is in for a rough afternoon methinks.

He's gonna get doubled most of the day. He's in for a long season, because nobody else on the line can hold the point of attack the way he can.

Stewie
09-18-2009, 07:32 AM
http://i26.tinypic.com/j1809u.jpg



http://i31.tinypic.com/24engjm.jpg

Jeez, if nothing else the Raiders know their assignments on this particular play call. If these plays were run in the same part of the field you'd think it was the same picture from a different angle.

notorious
09-18-2009, 07:45 AM
If the Raiders and the Chiefs play well, the Raiders have the advantage.

Raiders:

1. Offensive Line
2. Defensive Line
3. Running backs
4. Linebackers
5. Special Teams

Chiefs:

1. Quarterback



Coaching, WR's, and Secondary are a wash at this point.

Put it on paper and the Raiders are the pick.

That is why they play the game!

Mr. Laz
09-18-2009, 09:33 AM
4-4-3

ModSocks
09-18-2009, 09:46 AM
Ok. lets just ignore the fact that the LB's where are all out of position and bit on the fake bootleg and that the Chargers Secondary sucks at life. The fucking SS is how far back? The FS took himself out of the play, and where was Steroidman?

Anything that helps us drown in our own fabricated sorrow of suckage, right? I guess that run had nothing to do with the poor discipline from the Chargers right? Oh god, the Chiefs shouldn't even show up on Sunday. We're Doooooomed!!!!!!

JFC

Over-Head
09-18-2009, 11:05 AM
Ok. lets just ignore the fact that the LB's where are all out of position and bit on the fake bootleg and that the Chargers Secondary sucks at life. The ****ing SS is how far back? The FS took himself out of the play, and where was Steroidman?

Anything that helps us drown in our own fabricated sorrow of suckage, right? I guess that run had nothing to do with the poor discipline from the Chargers right? Oh god, the Chiefs shouldn't even show up on Sunday. We're Doooooomed!!!!!!

JFC
"Were just glad to be here, it's great to be part of the game. If everyone does thier job, and the faith I have in the club pays off. we should be able to capitalize on the plays tyhat matter and win a football game"

Saleenman607
09-18-2009, 11:29 AM
IM SO MEEEAN! I SCARE MYSELF!

Dumbassery of the highest order......However, I'll be there on the 27th to witness a Donkey asskicking contest. Fun going there against division opponents and not caring who the F**k wins. :)

htismaqe
09-18-2009, 11:34 AM
Ok. lets just ignore the fact that the LB's where are all out of position and bit on the fake bootleg and that the Chargers Secondary sucks at life. The ****ing SS is how far back? The FS took himself out of the play, and where was Steroidman?

Anything that helps us drown in our own fabricated sorrow of suckage, right? I guess that run had nothing to do with the poor discipline from the Chargers right? Oh god, the Chiefs shouldn't even show up on Sunday. We're Doooooomed!!!!!!

JFC

I was going to break down the blocking on that play, because I see more things the Chargers did wrong than the Raiders did right, but really, there's no use.

Besides, it'll be more fun if we win on Sunday if we all go into it thinking we're gonna get beat...