Whitlock: Pioli’s ego may get in way of building a winner

[Tribal Warfare]

Pioli’s ego may get in way of building a winner (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1472590.html)
JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY

There’s a huge difference between ego and confidence.

Self-importance (ego) prevents a person from seeing the value in others. Self-confidence empowers a person to seek out the value in others.

Some of you keep asking me why I’m troubled by my belief that Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli has a massive ego. You argue that my ego is out of control and therefore it’s inappropriate for me to judge Pioli.

It would be a waste of my time to dispute your perception. It would be the equivalent of me engaging the white and black people who alternately complain that I hate white or black people.

Regardless of the size of my ego, I’m a sports columnist, not a general manager or coach. It’s not my job to inspire other men and women to do their best work. This column is a solo act. I get paid to tell people what I think.

Pioli is paid to be a leader of men. Guys with massive egos generally fail at leadership.

In my time here, the Chiefs were blessed with two talented, self-confident coaches — Marty Schottenheimer and Dick Vermeil. And, of course, the Chiefs had a general manager, Carl Peterson, with a rather large ego.

Marty had a good 10-year run and left. Vermeil built a great offense, won 30 of his final 48 regular-season games and left after five years. Schottenheimer and Vermeil gave it their best shots and had the self-confidence to move on and let someone else coach the Chiefs.

Peterson hung on here for 20 years. He had to be forced out.

A gigantic ego is a character flaw when it comes to building a team. It’s generally a sign of weakness, insecurity and a lack of qualifications.

Charlie Weis’ feeling of football superiority just might cost him his job at Notre Dame. He had all the answers when he hit South Bend. College football has humbled him. During the three-year stretch before this season, Weis lost so many games that Irish fans longed for Gerry Faust.

Weis, like Pioli, gained a big reputation riding Bill Belichick’s considerable coattails.

I want Pioli to succeed. Far more people read my column when the Chiefs are in a playoff race than when they’re circling the toilet drain. I have no interest in a long-running feud with Pioli. A reenactment of King Carl vs. Ball State’s Finest would be boring and predictable. Plus, I wrote several columns championing Pioli for the job. I don’t need another Ty Law.

But I’m not going to sugarcoat what I see.

From the moment he arrived, Pioli has conducted himself in the most egotistical fashion imaginable. He set a tone for the entire organization that is, in my opinion, counterproductive to winning.

He and Todd Haley mishandled Brian Waters, bullying the Pro Bowl guard for no real reason. Last week on WHB (810 AM), former Chief Tim Grunhard complained about the way the new regime has alienated many of the former players, making them feel unwanted. Within the walls of the security-enhanced Arrowhead Stadium offices, a culture of fear and intimidation permeates the cubicles. The separation of the business side and football side of the Chiefs makes the Kansas basketball and football teams seem like best friends.

And you’ve previously read my complaints about the rules and regulations restricting media access to the team.

Some of you might argue that this is just the typical growing pains of new leadership. I disagree. OK, some of you might argue you don’t care about any of this as long as the Chiefs win.

What I’m trying to warn you is that all of the Mickey Mouse garbage has a good chance of standing in the way of winning.

All of these Belichick cronies (Weis, Crennel, Mangini, etc.) leave New England believing they know all the secret keys to building a winning environment. So far, Thomas Dimitroff, the Falcons general manager, is the only one proving he can export Belichick’s success.

Dimitroff drafted Matt Ryan, who looks like a young Tom Brady.

I respect Belichick and all that he has accomplished. But Brady was the key to New England’s dynasty. The Patriots lucked into the most fearless QB in league history. Belichick supported him with a terrific defense (and signal stealing).

Properly coached, motivated players win football games. FBI-like security, CIA-like surveillance and Rush Limbaugh-like bluster do not give a team a competitive advantage on Sundays.

I’m concerned Pioli isn’t focused on the right things. His ego might be getting in the way. Was acquiring Matt Cassel and giving him a $60-million contract a sound football decision, or was it an example of Pioli servicing his own ego? Was Pioli trying to prove he discovered Tom Brady twice?

As I always do, I’m going to react and adjust to new information. I’ve yet to reach a final conclusion about Pioli. Nine months in, I’m unimpressed.

[Silock]

404 Egoli not Found

Did he give up on that already?

[jAZ]

Why bother posting this crap?

[RealSNR]

So Posnanski's gone, you say? :doh!:

[L.A. Chieffan]

here we go again. just rename this place whitlockplanet, he's as big as one anyways

[Direckshun]

Anybody get the idea that Whitlock is just doubling down for the next six years?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Last week on WHB (810 AM), former Chief Tim Grunhard complained about the way the new regime has alienated many of the former players, making them feel unwanted. Within the walls of the security-enhanced Arrowhead Stadium offices, a culture of fear and intimidation permeates the cubicles. The separation of the business side and football side of the Chiefs makes the Kansas basketball and football teams seem like best friends.

:eek:

[Mecca]

That basically sums up what I think to this point....

[wild1]

Guys with huge egos generally fail at leadership.

Signed,
Bill Gates
Steve Jobs
Donald Trump
Roman Abramovich
Andrew Carnegie
Michael Eisner
John Rockefeller
...and all the rest of the world's most successful businesspeople

[Mecca]

:eek:

I actually heard Grunhard talk about this if you want more info about it.

[Dante84]

If Uncle Phil, Aunt Jemima, and Uncle Tom had a nephew, it would be Jason Whitlock.

Between the KU hip-hop rant where he spent the first half name-dropping who his famous rapper friends were, the P&L rant where he spent a paragraph talking about how expensive his clothes are, and this.... what a slap dick. Tech N9ne even makes fun of him in a song. He is a poor man's Howard Stern, Glenn Beck, Don Imus, and Rush Limbaugh style shock jock. And he sucks horse cock.

Jason blows, and I wish KC would have another writer step up and not suck. JoPo, I miss you, sir.

[keg in kc]

The sad part is, there's a really, really good article by Babb about Haley and we're talking about this shit.

[RealSNR]

:eek:I'm cool with this.

[Shaid]

Could someone please just beat the living hell out of this guy?

[Mecca]

Could someone please just beat the living hell out of this guy?

Hey now you can't be physically violent because you disagree with someones opinion.

[keg in kc]

Hey now you can't be physically violent because you disagree with someones opinion.I bet you wouldn't say that to my face.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I actually heard Grunhard talk about this if you want more info about it.

Who has the new regime "alienated"?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Hey now you can't be physically violent because you disagree with someones opinion.

I WANNA SEE WHITLOCKS HEAD ON A STICK

[Mecca]

I bet you wouldn't say that to my face.

I'd just steal your video games.

[cjp27]

If the Chiefs ever start winning, will Whitlock have anything to write about?

[keg in kc]

I'd just steal your video games.I'd probably finally make something of myself if you did that.

[Mecca]

Who has the new regime "alienated"?

He was basically talking about how now there are giant security gates everywhere and you have to be escorted by a security guard everywhere. He was talking about how in the past if you were friends with Herm or something you could have walked in and spoke with him now you can't get anywhere near that area.

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

[Silock]

If the Chiefs ever start winning, will Whitlock have anything to write about?

Well, we've got a ways to go before that happens.

[Jim Jones]

He was basically talking about how now there are giant security gates everywhere and you have to be escorted by a security guard everywhere. He was talking about how in the past if you were friends with Herm or something you could have walked in and spoke with him now you can't get anywhere near that area.

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

Who gives a flying monkey f*ck? Oh, all these old relics have sore vaginas because Pioli and Haley have restricted access to media and people who USED to be related to the team? Tim Grunhard can't freely walk down the halls whenever he wants to now? OH GOD IN HEAVEN..WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO!!

As I always do, I’m going to react and adjust to new information. I’ve yet to reach a final conclusion about Pioli. Nine months in, I’m unimpressed.

Two games into Pioli's tenure and Whitlock is letting us know he's yet to reach a final conclusion? Well thank god, I'd hate to think the man mad ea final judgement about Scott Pioli TWO F'ING GAMES into his stint as general manager. Whitlock and these other crybabies are mad because they don't get free reign at Arrowhead anymore. Oh, and Whitlock is also mad because he's not allowed near the Kraft Services Catering Table.

[Silock]

He was basically talking about how now there are giant security gates everywhere and you have to be escorted by a security guard everywhere. He was talking about how in the past if you were friends with Herm or something you could have walked in and spoke with him now you can't get anywhere near that area.

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

While that sucks, I get it. We haven't won a Super Bowl in nearly half a century. Regardless of how well-liked former players may be, they may not convey the right attitude to the current team.

Not saying I totally agree with this, but I get it.

[L.A. Chieffan]

YOU KNOW WHY THEY WOULDNT DARE IN GREEN BAY?? BECAUSE IN GREEN BAY THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FUCKING WON SOMETHING

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That basically sums up what I think to this point....

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

[BigRock]

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

Somebody better tell Priest, he thinks there's some kind of retirement ceremony for him at halftime in two weeks.

[stevieray]

jwhit..you're in a rut.

good luck. with that.

[Just Passin' By]

Whitlock's vagina is still weeping puss, I see.

They were 'rude' to a player who showed up unannounced.

They take security seriously

They've cut the media access

They aren't blowing former players the way Herm and others did.


None of that is an impediment to victory, as Whitlock knows full well.

[soundmind]

Hack.

What exactly does it take to write yourself out of work? This man should be unemployed at best. He's now rewritten the same article what, 19 times in two weeks? They're 1 draft and 2 games into what will be a 3 year project at minimum, you dimly lit blimp. Would've just killed you to write about Grienke wouldn't it?

[HMc]

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

I knew it, lou from concessions is a dealer

[Tylerthigpen!1!]

If Uncle Phil, Aunt Jemima, and Uncle Tom had a nephew, it would be Jason Whitlock.

Between the KU hip-hop rant where he spent the first half name-dropping who his famous rapper friends were, the P&L rant where he spent a paragraph talking about how expensive his clothes are, and this.... what a slap dick. Tech Ni9e even makes fun of him in a song. He is a poor man's Howard Stern, Glenn Beck, Don Imus, and Rush Limbaugh style shock jock. And he sucks horse cock.

Jason blows, and I wish KC would have another writer step up and not suck. JoPo, I miss you, sir.

what song does tech n9ne make fun of him in?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

what song does tech n9ne make fun of him in?

"Paying Gates light bill".

[Tylerthigpen!1!]

"Paying Gates light bill".

good shit thanks

[Smed1065]

Pioli’s ego may get in way of building a winner (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1472590.html)
JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY

There’s a huge difference between ego and confidence.

Self-importance (ego) prevents a person from seeing the value in others. Self-confidence empowers a person to seek out the value in others.

Some of you keep asking me why I’m troubled by my belief that Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli has a massive ego. You argue that my ego is out of control and therefore it’s inappropriate for me to judge Pioli.

It would be a waste of my time to dispute your perception. It would be the equivalent of me engaging the white and black people who alternately complain that I hate white or black people.

Regardless of the size of my ego, I’m a sports columnist, not a general manager or coach. It’s not my job to inspire other men and women to do their best work. This column is a solo act. I get paid to tell people what I think.

Pioli is paid to be a leader of men. Guys with massive egos generally fail at leadership.

In my time here, the Chiefs were blessed with two talented, self-confident coaches — Marty Schottenheimer and Dick Vermeil. And, of course, the Chiefs had a general manager, Carl Peterson, with a rather large ego.

Marty had a good 10-year run and left. Vermeil built a great offense, won 30 of his final 48 regular-season games and left after five years. Schottenheimer and Vermeil gave it their best shots and had the self-confidence to move on and let someone else coach the Chiefs.

Peterson hung on here for 20 years. He had to be forced out.

A gigantic ego is a character flaw when it comes to building a team. It’s generally a sign of weakness, insecurity and a lack of qualifications.

Charlie Weis’ feeling of football superiority just might cost him his job at Notre Dame. He had all the answers when he hit South Bend. College football has humbled him. During the three-year stretch before this season, Weis lost so many games that Irish fans longed for Gerry Faust.

Weis, like Pioli, gained a big reputation riding Bill Belichick’s considerable coattails.

I want Pioli to succeed. Far more people read my column when the Chiefs are in a playoff race than when they’re circling the toilet drain. I have no interest in a long-running feud with Pioli. A reenactment of King Carl vs. Ball State’s Finest would be boring and predictable. Plus, I wrote several columns championing Pioli for the job. I don’t need another Ty Law.

But I’m not going to sugarcoat what I see.

From the moment he arrived, Pioli has conducted himself in the most egotistical fashion imaginable. He set a tone for the entire organization that is, in my opinion, counterproductive to winning.

He and Todd Haley mishandled Brian Waters, bullying the Pro Bowl guard for no real reason. Last week on WHB (810 AM), former Chief Tim Grunhard complained about the way the new regime has alienated many of the former players, making them feel unwanted. Within the walls of the security-enhanced Arrowhead Stadium offices, a culture of fear and intimidation permeates the cubicles. The separation of the business side and football side of the Chiefs makes the Kansas basketball and football teams seem like best friends.

And you’ve previously read my complaints about the rules and regulations restricting media access to the team.

Some of you might argue that this is just the typical growing pains of new leadership. I disagree. OK, some of you might argue you don’t care about any of this as long as the Chiefs win.

What I’m trying to warn you is that all of the Mickey Mouse garbage has a good chance of standing in the way of winning.

All of these Belichick cronies (Weis, Crennel, Mangini, etc.) leave New England believing they know all the secret keys to building a winning environment. So far, Thomas Dimitroff, the Falcons general manager, is the only one proving he can export Belichick’s success.

Dimitroff drafted Matt Ryan, who looks like a young Tom Brady.

I respect Belichick and all that he has accomplished. But Brady was the key to New England’s dynasty. The Patriots lucked into the most fearless QB in league history. Belichick supported him with a terrific defense (and signal stealing).

Properly coached, motivated players win football games. FBI-like security, CIA-like surveillance and Rush Limbaugh-like bluster do not give a team a competitive advantage on Sundays.

I’m concerned Pioli isn’t focused on the right things. His ego might be getting in the way. Was acquiring Matt Cassel and giving him a $60-million contract a sound football decision, or was it an example of Pioli servicing his own ego? Was Pioli trying to prove he discovered Tom Brady twice?

As I always do, I’m going to react and adjust to new information. I’ve yet to reach a final conclusion about Pioli. Nine months in, I’m unimpressed.

Whaa football player...LOL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

good shit thanks

It's on the often overlooked "40 and a Slab to go" EP.

[BossChief]

lol

kinda ironic he bitches about Pioli instead of taking that time to write about our current opponent.

nice job fatlock

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

lol

kinda ironic he bitches about Pioli instead of taking that time to write about our current opponent.

nice job fatlock

Now that's a valid point.

[Smed1065]

Now that's a valid point.

AND NO FACTS BY YOU?

distraction by me --no I ran at 2 am!!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

AND NO FACTS BY YOU?

distraction by me --no I ran at 2 am!!

And you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids!

[Silock]

And you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids!

You know who else I like that didn't get much play? Velma from Scooby-Doo. She was cool. She was a hip, hip lady.

[Dante84]

You know who else I like that didn't get much play? Velma from Scooby-Doo. She was cool. She was a hip, hip lady.

Her and Martha Washington/Dazed and Confused

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You know who else I like that didn't get much play? Velma from Scooby-Doo. She was cool. She was a hip, hip lady.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Daphne_velma_wnsd.jpg

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You know who else didn't get much play? Esther Rolle:

http://www.catalogs.com/info/bestof/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/good_times.jpg

[KcMizzou]

Her and Martha Washington/Dazed and ConfusedDamnit, I knew that.

Check ya later.

[Smed1065]

Or a NY win against a team..........-:)

See then Jizz now!

[philfree]

I think the title of the aticle should have been......"Whitlock
Whishes he could get in the way of the Chiefs building a winner." What a pig....

PhilFree:arrow:

[KcMizzou]

Or a NY win against a team..........-:)

See then Jizz now!I have no idea what you're talking about... so here's Phobia with a corn cob on his head.

[Christofire]

http://www.kcconfidential.com/?p=8623

Here are some of Grunhard's actual quotes Mecca referenced earlier, fwiw. The actual link has commentary by some guy named Greg Hall, which I deleted, but you can click the link if you want to see it.

***
OTC: Grunhard Is Heartbroken Over His Chiefs, As Am I

“Heartbroken. Completely heartbroken. It’s just like they’ve thrown the last shovel of dirt on the ex-players.”
Tim Grunhard, former starting center for the Chiefs, when asked how he feels about the depths that the Chiefs’ franchise has sunk to and the distant relationship that now exists between the Chiefs’ new regime and the organization’s former players, 810 AM

“They don’t even want us to be seen out there (at Arrowhead). I’ve talked to some of the older (ex-Chiefs’ players) who are around a lot and they’re basically aced out also.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“It’s kind of disappointing because when you hear about places like Green Bay and (former Packer) Frank Winters goes back and some of the Pittsburgh Steelers go back (to Pittsburgh), and even Neil Smith when he goes back to Denver, they’re treated like gold.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“I think that’s a shame. The (Chiefs) organization has been disappointing. I know they have more important things to worry about than a bunch of grumpy old football players have to say – and believe me they have some things they need to worry about – but that was kind of the last straw for me.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“To lose 24 out of 26 football games with a Kansas City Chiefs uniform on is disappointing. To have the offensive line playing the way they are, as the Achilles Heel of that team, is disappointing.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“You still have that 10% of (Chiefs’ fans) who are crazy (about the team) and you have 10% who couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the Kansas City Chiefs. But that other 80% is kind of on the fence and I think they are gonna sink.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“I’m hoping that Haley and Pioli can get this thing turned around and if they do I think that 80% will still jump onboard. But boy, oh boy, it’s gonna be tough. Especially with all those renovations and the Taj Mahal of the club level, all these restaurants – that’s not Chiefs’ fans! I guess you don’t need to have 80,000 fannies in the seats if you have 20,000 paying $5,000 a ticket.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

“I talked with some of the people in the (Chiefs’) organization – the marketing people have never been to the football side, and they’re not really allowed to go over there. I mean there’s a lock and key, there are passwords, there’s security after security. There’s like three levels of security! It’s like the Pentagon out there now.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM

***

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

There's about 5% of his take that is worth a shit. If you're trying to tell me that Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Len Dawson, or Otis Taylor can't get a foot in the door, I'm gonna' say you're full of shit.
And lets face it; the greatest player from Grunhard's era is enshrined in Canton and has left the Earthly plane.
Does that mean I discount the other players from that time who played well and comprised a good team? No.
But I can understand why Pioli isn't going to make time for them either.

[orange]

So Posnanski's gone, you say? :doh!:

Joe Posnanski:

So, I’m not sure why it took 10 days for Pioli to pull the trigger. I’m not sure why he left Herm dangling out there for those 10 days while his assistant coaches fled like high school kids on graduation day. I’m not sure why the Chiefs would throw Herm overboard late on a Friday afternoon with a news release and a couple of pointless statements. I’m not sure what it says about an organization that it would treat a loyal man like that. Actually, I’m precisely sure what it says about the Chiefs.

Put it this way: Scott Pioli better win fast. He isn’t winning anyone over with his class.

http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/998818.html

[HMc]

why do you need former players wandering around the joint anyway?

"Have a seat Tyson, let's talk about what it's like to play on a team that stinks for your entire career."

[Christofire]

The focus should be on the football operation, period. Yeah, it would be better PR if the older players were able to get a little love, but with so many having media connections (Grunhard, etc.), there's probably method to the madness.

[KCChiefsMan]

fucking stupid

[HMc]

i'd bet the vast majority of former players have zero interest in hanging around arrowhead drive.

obviously grunhard has a bee in his bonnet as a media type

[BigRock]

There's about 5% of his take that is worth a shit. If you're trying to tell me that Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Len Dawson, or Otis Taylor can't get a foot in the door, I'm gonna' say you're full of shit.

He doesn't mean them, he means himself and other Carl-era guys. Being a Carl draftee, Grunny's used to 20 years of belly rubs and handjobs. If Carl found you and you were worth a shit, you had it made.

The funniest part is complaining about the stadium. I know the 90's were fun for you, Tim, but feel free to join the rest of us here in 2009.

Isn't he coaching a high school team now? Shouldn't he have better things to do than hang around Arrowhead?

[Mecca]

He doesn't mean them, he means himself and other Carl-era guys. Being a Carl draftee, Grunny's used to 20 years of belly rubs and handjobs. If Carl found you and you were worth a shit, you had it made.

The funniest part is complaining about the stadium. I know the 90's were fun for you, Tim, but feel free to join the rest of us here in 2009.

Isn't he coaching a high school team now? Shouldn't he have better things to do than hang around Arrowhead?

Actually during that interview he said he had tickets to the Raiders game so he had a choice to go watch the Chiefs play or watch his kids play and he went to watch his kids play.

I think when he mentions a guy like Frank Winters being welcomed back by the Packers he views himself kind of the same way and see's how different things are here.

[Silock]

Actually during that interview he said he had tickets to the Raiders game so he had a choice to go watch the Chiefs play or watch his kids play and he went to watch his kids play.

Shock of shocks, but I think most dads would do the same thing. At least, the dads that are worth a shit would. And Grunny has always struck me as a good guy, so I'm not surprised.

I think when he mentions a guy like Frank Winters being welcomed back by the Packers he views himself kind of the same way and see's how different things are here.

Serious question: Is Frank Winters a media guy like Grunny is?

[the Talking Can]

this is unreal

this is a 3 yr old crying.....

jesus christ what the fuck....i can't even think of a word this is so far beyond "embarrassing"

[the Talking Can]

That basically sums up what I think to this point....

then you're way more ****ing stupid then anyone thought


it is an example of pretty much every logical fallacy in existence....

seriously, it's written by a dumb person for dumb people


here is how the logic of it works:

get in your car in Kansas City and drive to Saint Louis, when you get out of your car you will actually be in a whore house in Thailand....


if this is what passes for intelligence among Chiefs fans these days, I'm going to WPI....

[kstater]

if this is what passes for intelligence among Chiefs fans these days, I'm going to WPI....
Step away from the ledge.

[MichaelH]

I guess Whitlock feels that Peterson could do a better job. :rolleyes:

[boogblaster]

Shitlock is like the final scene in Dumb and Dumber .. Never had a clue ....

[The Bad Guy]

Who gives a shit about Tim Grunhard? Honestly.

This isn't a high school homecoming. This is professional football. Grunhard was paid very well by the Chiefs, and after retirement, he wants the new regime to wash his balls too?

When is enough, enough?

The Patriots have shown just about as much loyalty to their players as a 10 dollar hooker would to a client. They trade Seymour, cut Law and Milloy when they had gas in the tank.

I just don't see the point in nitpicking this bullshit.

And Whitlock is completely full of shit. More people read his drivel when there is potential controversy compared to when the Chiefs are winning.

[The Bad Guy]

He was basically talking about how now there are giant security gates everywhere and you have to be escorted by a security guard everywhere. He was talking about how in the past if you were friends with Herm or something you could have walked in and spoke with him now you can't get anywhere near that area.

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

Why is this an issue?

Why does someone like Grunhard have the ability to just walk into a coaches office?

Exactly why should the Chiefs honor and respect Grunhard? They paid him well during his time. Carl fluffed his pillows and told him his ass smelled better than everyone elses.

This reeks of a spoiled kid getting something taken off of him and he's crying about it now.

I'm glad shit at Arrowhead has gotten tougher. This team has been a bunch of crybaby pussies for over 10 years now. Boo fucking hoo, Grunhard.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I get that whitlock disagrees with how Pioli is running things, thats his opinion. But every freaking article is about how he disagrees with pioli, it almost seems like hes taking it personal.

[Marcellus]

Actually during that interview he said he had tickets to the Raiders game so he had a choice to go watch the Chiefs play or watch his kids play and he went to watch his kids play.

I think when he mentions a guy like Frank Winters being welcomed back by the Packers he views himself kind of the same way and see's how different things are here.

When people bring up old players like Green and Gonzalez you and several other scream about who cares and you devalue their skills etc...because you say they never won shit.

Now you act like we should really care what Grunhard thinks and that it is a sign of the issues at 1 Arrowhead.

The hypocrisy of this place is fucking amazing.

[Tom_A_Hawk]

I get that whitlock disagrees with how Pioli is running things, thats his opinion. But every freaking article is about how he disagrees with pioli, it almost seems like hes taking it personal.

He has taken it personal.
His comment about valuing others indicates to me that Pioli doesn't give him the time of day or couldn't give a big ol rat's butt about inclusion of the media.

[htismaqe]

There's about 5% of his take that is worth a shit. If you're trying to tell me that Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Len Dawson, or Otis Taylor can't get a foot in the door, I'm gonna' say you're full of shit.
And lets face it; the greatest player from Grunhard's era is enshrined in Canton and has left the Earthly plane.
Does that mean I discount the other players from that time who played well and comprised a good team? No.
But I can understand why Pioli isn't going to make time for them either.

Exactly.

Grunhard is playing up the "former player" angle to obfuscate the fact that he's a MEMBER OF THE MEDIA.

[Norman Einstein]

We aren't talking about Pioli's ego here, we are talking about Whitlock's ego. This fat slob feels he knows more about football than those entrusted to run the Chiefs and most likely any other NFL team.

It would be in our best interest to let the Star know that his antics are not appreciated nor are they worthy to read.

I realize that Whitlock is not a reporter, he is nothing more than a mix master and all the material he puts in the bowl is shit so that's what we get in his articles on Sundays.

I have seen him write articles that were worth while, unfortunately not a one of them had anything to do with football.

[ILChief]

I am glad Pioli doesn't give a sh!t about Whitlock and the media. Carl was too worried about what was written and said about him and it really hurt his job performance (over the last 10 years especially).

I don't think of the GM as someone who inspires others (maybe I'm wrong). I view the GM's job as putting together the best team and let the head coach do the inspiring.

[Boon]

Sounds like just another journalist shut out at One Arrowhead Drive to me.
Nothing more really.

Maybe shitlock should take to writing about ribs and other KC shit.

[KCUnited]

Exactly.

Grunhard is playing up the "former player" angle to obfuscate the fact that he's a MEMBER OF THE MEDIA.
Exactly why NO ONE has access, because they turn and run to the media spouting off at the mouth.

[crazychiefsfan]

Nobody stirs the planet pot like the Fatlock

[Deberg_1990]

Who gives a shit about Tim Grunhard? Honestly.

This isn't a high school homecoming. This is professional football. Grunhard was paid very well by the Chiefs, and after retirement, he wants the new regime to wash his balls too?

When is enough, enough?



Oh come on,


Grunhard deserves a little better treatment because of all the titles he brought to KC.

[The Bad Guy]

When people bring up old players like Green and Gonzalez you and several other scream about who cares and you devalue their skills etc...because you say they never won shit.

Now you act like we should really care what Grunhard thinks and that it is a sign of the issues at 1 Arrowhead.

The hypocrisy of this place is ****ing amazing.

Best post in this thread.

It's hilarious. It really is.

Bash Gonzalez but defend Grunhard?

That's fucking priceless.

[The Bad Guy]

I agree with the poster who said this isn't about Pioli anymore. It's about Whitlock and his supersized ego. This is like a Pioli hazing. Whitlock is a complete fraud.

[Deberg_1990]

I agree with the poster who said this isn't about Pioli anymore. It's about Whitlock and his supersized ego. This is like a Pioli hazing. Whitlock is a complete fraud.

You mean you dont believe Whitlock really wants the CHiefs to be winners?? ROFL

[The Bad Guy]

You mean you dont believe Whitlock really wants the CHiefs to be winners?? ROFL

Absolutely not. Anyone who falls for his "I get more readers when the Chiefs are winning" are fucking morons.

People want to see what bullshit Whitlock writes. It's the same reason tabloids are so popular. People know most of it is fluff and bullshit, but they read it anyway. Basically a guilty pleasure.

Whitlock is such a two-faced cocksucker, I hope Pioli bans his ass along with Grunhard's.

[Marcellus]

You mean you dont believe Whitlock really wants the CHiefs to be winners?? ROFL

Only if it happens in a way he can take credit for being right about.

Kind of like a bunch of people here. Damn this should be called Whitlock Planet.

[Shaid]

Hey now you can't be physically violent because you disagree with someones opinion.

It's not his opinion that annoys me. It's the constant "Egoli" references. Seriously, he needs to learn a new tune.

[Coogs]

So we go back to Brian waters yet again. And then jump to last week with Tim Grunhard, which was Wednesday night on the radio. And if I recall an "Ego" article from the recent past, there was something about a lunch date with Pioli, Haley, and Whitlock somewhere in between Waters and Grunhard.

Weak!

[Marcellus]

It's not his opinion that annoys me. It's the constant "Egoli" references. Seriously, he needs to learn a new tune.

1 Trick Pony.

[Hammock Parties]

Was acquiring Matt Cassel and giving him a $60-million contract a sound football decision, or was it an example of Pioli servicing his own ego? Was Pioli trying to prove he discovered Tom Brady twice?This is the main problem with this article. Whitlock believes there's a chance in hell an NFL front officer of the year would make a King-Carl mistake. He believes Pioli might actually trade for Cassel based on his ego instead of an objective evaluation of Cassel's abilities, of which Pioli has a better read on than almost anyone in football.

Of course, Whitlock thinks that way because he probably watched about three Patriots' games last year. Had he actually done some research this offseason instead of chalking up Cassel's success to Randy Moss, he would realize Cassel played really well and showed a lot of smarts, accuracy, athleticism.

So it's not surprising we're sitting here reading ANOTHER, quite frankly, BORING and MEANINGLESS rant about how horrible Pioli is when the Chiefs are getting set to play the Eagles.

Would it KILL Jason to write about FOOTBALL, you know, actual players, strategy, his BFF Donovan McNabb, all that good stuff? Like he has done in the past, does an excellent job with but someHOW REFUSES to do this year apart from a couple times?

FAIL, Whitlock. FAIL.

[the Talking Can]

Can anyone answer the following questions:

How is it possible that Pioli is the biggest ego since Hitler, and no in the country knew or reported about it prior to Whitlock?


How could Pioli make a career of eating children and beating up old women, and Whitlock not know about it as he "researched" Pioli for his articles written about the Pioli signing?

Whitlock is a national columnist, with impeachable sources around the country, and unquestionable integrity - per the Planet - so in what universe is it conceivable that he wouldn't know, or be easily able to find out about Pioli's fascist heart prior to last week?


and please answer these questions in a way that doesn't make everyone laugh at you...thanks

[DeezNutz]

This is the main problem with this article. Whitlock believes there's a chance in hell an NFL front officer of the year would make a King-Carl mistake.

This is the main problem with most fans; they think such a mistake from Pioli is impossible.

[DeezNutz]

Can anyone answer the following questions:

How is it possible that Pioli is the biggest ego since Hitler, and no in the country knew or reported about it prior to Whitlock?


How could Pioli make a career of eating children and beating up old women, and Whitlock not know about it as he "researched" Pioli for his articles written about the Pioli signing?

Whitlock is a national columnist, with impeachable sources around the country, and unquestionable integrity - per the Planet - so in what universe is it conceivable that he wouldn't know, or be easily able to find out about Pioli's fascist heart prior to last week?


and please answer these questions in a way that doesn't make everyone laugh at you...thanks

Well, this is, technically, Pioli's first job as GM. Though he says there was a 50-50 power split in NE, no one is 100 percent sure that was accurate.

[Marcellus]

Well, this is, technically, Pioli's first job as GM. Though he says there was a 50-50 power split in NE, no one is 100 percent sure that was accurate.

That didn't come close to answering the question.

Pioli didn't exist in a vacuum in NE.
He dealt with media just as much there as he is here I am sure.

Only thing I can think of is the fact they were winning SB's etc...will allow for a lot of slack when it comes to personality.

[the Talking Can]

Well, this is, technically, Pioli's first job as GM. Though he says there was a 50-50 power split in NE, no one is 100 percent sure that was accurate.

so, you think he was normal human his entire life, but the minute he became a GM he turned into a monster, like he drank an evil potion or something?


really?

[Hammock Parties]

Well, this is, technically, Pioli's first job as GM. Though he says there was a 50-50 power split in NE, no one is 100 percent sure that was accurate.

It's not impossible. But it's not likely, and to talk about it without a shred of evidence is retarded.

[Marcellus]

so, you think he was normal human hie entire life, but the minute he became a GM he turned into a monster, like he drank an evil potion or something?


really?

Yes, and Carl Peterson was smart , didn't have plastic hair, and wore a member's only jacket instead of long leather one before he became KC's GM

That office has bad juju.

[DeezNutz]

so, you think he was normal human hie entire life, but the minute he became a GM he turned into a monster, like he drank an evil potion or something?


really?

No.

I think there's hyperbole from Whitlock. But I'm not ready to dismiss everything he's saying.

The Pats were so successful so quickly and the Hoodie was so instrumental in their success that I think it's entirely possible that we don't know nearly as much about Pioli's football acumen as many would like to think.

[DeezNutz]

It's not impossible. But it's not likely, and to talk about it without a shred of evidence is retarded.

There's no question that JWhit needs to roll out more specific evidence or he needs to pipe down.

[Marcellus]

No.

I think there's hyperbole from Whitlock. But I'm not ready to dismiss everything he's saying.

The Pats were so successful so quickly and the Hoodie was so instrumental in their success that I think it's entirely possible that we don't know nearly as much about Pioli's football acumen as many would like to think.

I have to argue that it's quit possible hoodie is going to jack this team up working by himself. The trade of Seymour doesn't at this time look like a good idea. It may pay off in the long run.

Mayo is hurt and they have no leadership on defense now and they look bad. Plenty of time to straighten the ship but it looks rough now. I think they lose today.

[LaChapelle]

Whitlock tring to tear down ala sports radio 810 again? The players are interested in going over to the Royals.

[Red Dawg]

Is Fatlock really this stupid? Scotty P has been less than one season and through Fatlock's infinite knowledge he will not buiold a winner because his ego is too big? What the hell is he talking about.

Scott and Haley are trying find players intrested in the team and winning. Not thier stats and their contracts. Scott will put a winner on the field. It wasn't all Bill. Look at how they are doing right now. The dynasty is starting to fall down.

[LaChapelle]

Interesting Maas and Grunhardt were part of that mass exit too.

[milkman]

I have to argue that it's quit possible hoodie is going to jack this team up working by himself. The trade of Seymour doesn't at this time look like a good idea. It may pay off in the long run.

Mayo is hurt and they have no leadership on defense now and they look bad. Plenty of time to straighten the ship but it looks rough now. I think they lose today.

That defense was already on the descent last year.

They've really not done a good job of replenishing the defense with fresh talent over the years.

One of the reasons that I was more supportive of the idea of bringing Eric DeCosta or one of the Steeler candidates over Pioli.

That being said, Whitlock is ****ing moron whose suggestion that ego will get in the way of Pioli's ability to perform his job is one of the most ridiculous things I believe I've ever seen in print media.

[AJKCFAN]

Please fire this POS excuse of a sportswriter ASAP, KC Star!

[DeezNutz]

I have to argue that it's quit possible hoodie is going to jack this team up working by himself. The trade of Seymour doesn't at this time look like a good idea. It may pay off in the long run.

Mayo is hurt and they have no leadership on defense now and they look bad. Plenty of time to straighten the ship but it looks rough now. I think they lose today.

As soon as Brady returns to form, the Hoodie will look like a genious again.

Getting a first for RS, however, was a steal. Older player who was not going to be with the team much longer anyway? Sign me up.

[Marcellus]

Ego or not you can't argue Pioli isn't obsessed with building a winner and not just a 1 year run.

[CHIEFS58]

what a tub of retardedness. theres a difference in king carls ego and pioli. peterson didnt go to the super bowl, and pioli is from the parcells lineage. BIG DIFFERENCE. i dont think this pile of crap knows the difference in ego and being confident that you know what youre doing. the fact that he can cut and paste definitions certainly doesnt mean that he understands.

[JuicesFlowing]

This entire article is Whitlock explaining that he's upset with Pioli because of restricted media access. And really, Whitlock is STILL complaining about the Cryin Waters deal?

[dirk digler]

I was hoping for more specifics like Jason said he was going to provide. All I read is he is still upset about Waters and restricted media access. Honestly who gives a rat's ass?

The one thing I don't like is how they have treated the Chiefs alumni and I hope that gets resolved. I read Grunhard's comments earlier this week and it is disappointing along with displaying the Ring of Honor on the ribbon screen instead of having their names on the stadium like they used to.

[Marcellus]

I was hoping for more specifics like Jason said he was going to provide. All I read is he is still upset about Waters and restricted media access. Honestly who gives a rat's ass?

The one thing I don't like is how they have treated the Chiefs alumni and I hope that gets resolved. I read Grunhard's comments earlier this week and it is disappointing along with displaying the Ring of Honor on the ribbon screen instead of having their names on the stadium like they used to.

Could you at least make your avatar blink on and off so I can try to read what you post when it it is off? :)

[JuicesFlowing]

I was hoping for more specifics like Jason said he was going to provide. All I read is he is still upset about Waters and restricted media access. Honestly who gives a rat's ass?

The one thing I don't like is how they have treated the Chiefs alumni and I hope that gets resolved. I read Grunhard's comments earlier this week and it is disappointing along with displaying the Ring of Honor on the ribbon screen instead of having their names on the stadium like they used to.

I agree, that is disappointing ... and on TV, that ribbon screen is too nuclear, they need to tone down the brightness a bit. But whatever.

[LaChapelle]

LEts change the culture, but keep the old culture!!!!11
The ROF and alumni have lead us to vic-tor-ys
Our SB winning QB is on SSI

[Pablo]

Anyone who defends or endorses J Whit from here on out is a fucking moron. The end.

[SAUTO]

Pioli’s ego may get in way of building a winner (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1472590.html)
JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY


Regardless of the size of my ego, I’m a sports columnist, not a general manager or coach. It’s not my job to inspire other men and women to do their best work. This column is a solo act. I get paid to tell people what I think..

There you go dane, he tells you how it is himself.

[SAUTO]

He was basically talking about how now there are giant security gates everywhere and you have to be escorted by a security guard everywhere. He was talking about how in the past if you were friends with Herm or something you could have walked in and spoke with him now you can't get anywhere near that area.

Then he went on to say that they don't care about any past Chiefs players, they don't care to honor or respect them and he wonders what the reaction would be in Green Bay if they did something like that because frankly they wouldn't dare.

He talked about how he has a friend that works for the Chiefs and he said I won't name names or the favor I ask of this person every year but for this person do to the favor for me I had to meet them across the street from the stadium.

what the fuck does any of that have to do with winning games?

[Shag]

Wow, Whitlock is a complete joke lately. He has zero credibility left on Pioli, as he very clearly has a personal dislike for him, which he has made no effort to hide. He's lost all objectivity, which will make any observations he has about the GM look petty, regardless of their validity...

[milkman]

There you go dane, he tells you how it is himself.

I don't think that Dane ever argued that he wasn't paid to tell you what he thinks.

A columnist is paid to write his opinions.

What he has argued is that Whitlock is not fabricating stories.

[Pablo]

what the **** does any of that have to do with winning games?It doesn't.

But clearly the new front office = evil because they won't let Tim f*cking Grunhard walk around freely. Fuck.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

There you go dane, he tells you how it is himself.

Please get a carbon monoxide detector in your shop.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You know, unless we win 3 games this year this will be the worst three year stretch of any team in the past 22 years.

That's pretty fucking amazing.

[Hammock Parties]

You know, unless we win 3 games this year this will be the worst three year stretch of any team in the past 22 years.

That's pretty fucking amazing.

We're about due for some good karma.

When the Chiefs win it all we'll be able to look back and say...I was there...in hell with Herm and Carl.

[booger]

jwhit = total assclown

[DeezNutz]

There you go dane, he tells you how it is himself.

That's what columnists do.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Please get a carbon monoxide detector in your shop.

LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Please get a carbon monoxide detector in your shop.

WTF are you doing? You want him to live?

[TheGuardian]

Did Pioli rape Whitlock's girlfriend in a road stop bathroom or something? Every week it's this shit from him. Like the same article over and over again.

[wild1]

what happened to the thread with the new column in it?

[SAUTO]

I don't think that Dane ever argued that he wasn't paid to tell you what he thinks.

A columnist is paid to write his opinions.

What he has argued is that Whitlock is not fabricating stories.

opinion isnt alwas based on truth, it's based on perception. and whitlock obviously has a skewed sense of perception

[SAUTO]

Please get a carbon monoxide detector in your shop.

why hamas, the think part wasnt the most important part of the quote. it was the "solo act" part. the "think" part was a minor part of the equation. whitlock writes about what HE THINKS. not about facts. and the people here who act as though he would be fired for not telling the WHOLE truth are a little naive IMO. he an opinion writer. i doubt the star has someone who is paid to run around and check all the bullshit he spews. Think what that guy would smell like.

[wild1]

Like someone else said, it's no longer about Pioli with Whitlock.

He tried selling this trash, nobody was buying it, so he's got to sell it harder.

Whitlock knows the position that Carl and Herm left this team in, so he's got a safe play being a naysayer for at least a year.

[jAZ]

Far more people read my column when the Chiefs are in a playoff race than when they’re circling the toilet drain.
Not true.

[jAZ]

Properly coached, motivated players win football games.
Good point, Jason.

[jAZ]

Was acquiring Matt Cassel and giving him a $60-million contract a sound football decision, or was it an example of Pioli servicing his own ego? Was Pioli trying to prove he discovered Tom Brady twice?

A sound football decision.

[jAZ]

So far, Thomas Dimitroff, the Falcons general manager, is the only one proving he can export Belichick’s success.
No longer the only one.

[jAZ]

From the moment he arrived, Pioli has conducted himself in the most egotistical fashion imaginable. He set a tone for the entire organization that is, in my opinion, counterproductive to winning.

Obviously not.

[T-post Tom]

Wow, his 810 "interview" today contradicted a lot of this article.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow, his 810 "interview" today contradicted a lot of this article.

He was on 810? i thought it was 610

[007]

He was on 810? i thought it was 610It was 610 and he sounded like a pompous self important ass as usual.

[Sure-Oz]

It was 610 and he sounded like a pompous self important ass as usual.

Did they cater in jackstack this time

[007]

Did they cater in jackstack this timeIt was a phone interview with Nick Wright. Get this, Jason blocked Nick Wright from his Twitter account too.

[Sure-Oz]

It was a phone interview with Nick Wright. Get this, Jason blocked Nick Wright from his Twitter account too.

Wow, that is fucked up

[jAZ]

Wow, his 810 "interview" today contradicted a lot of this article.

Do tell.

[Dante84]

Do tell.

Podcast link for yesterday's show. Should be the second one down under 1/3.

http://www.610sports.com/pages/7606729.php?

[philfree]

I'd rather see a duplicate thread then have all this Whitlock crap brought back up.

It's like you finally got rid of that annoying neighbor that you can't stand and then he shows up unexpectedly at your door and you let him in.


PhilFree:arrow:

[Dragonocho]

Hard to counter a Whitlock's argument as they are never based on logic.

Scott Pioli has been an absolute godsend to this town.

[Lzen]

Wow, just into the interview and Whitlock is saying all kinds of stuff that he has no proof. "People were saying Haley was about to be fired at AZ." Of course SB coordinators get fired all the time. :rolleyes:

[Lzen]

Jwhit's argument for Haley getting the Chiefs in the playoffs - Pioli has created an environment that makes it easy to coach in.

ROFL ROFL

What a dumb ass.

[SAUTO]

Jwhit's argument for Haley getting the Chiefs in the playoffs - Pioli has created an environment that makes it easy to coach in.

ROFL ROFL

What a dumb ass.

like i asked him yesterday (which was not answered) does that make bill belichik not an nfl coach too?

[the Talking Can]

Can anyone answer the following questions:

How is it possible that Pioli is the biggest ego since Hitler, and no in the country knew or reported about it prior to Whitlock?


How could Pioli make a career of eating children and beating up old women, and Whitlock not know about it as he "researched" Pioli for his articles written about the Pioli signing?

Whitlock is a national columnist, with impeachable sources around the country, and unquestionable integrity - per the Planet - so in what universe is it conceivable that he wouldn't know, or be easily able to find out about Pioli's fascist heart prior to last week?


and please answer these questions in a way that doesn't make everyone laugh at you...thanks



according to pawnsmoker, I hate Pioli......good times

[jAZ]

Jwhit's argument for Haley getting the Chiefs in the playoffs - Pioli has created an environment that makes it easy to coach in.

ROFL ROFL

What a dumb ass.

Egoli is an f-ing genius if that were true.

[kstater]

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss87/Bids99/tomcruiselaugh.gif

[Hammock Parties]

Can Bowe And Baldwin Coexist?

Whitlock

Dwayne Bowe just finished a record-setting Pro Bowl season and affirmed his draft position. Did Scott Pioli and Todd Haley just undermine his achievement and challenge his position as KC's #1 receiver by drafting Pitt's Jonathan Baldwin Thursday night?

More importantly, can Bowe's ego take it?

I'm serious. Prima donna NFL wide receivers are incredibly insecure people. They crave the spotlight, loathe sharing it, and pout when someone else steals it.

It's not difficult to foresee Baldwin stealing Bowe's glory. He's bigger, a tenth of a second faster and bests his vertical jump by a full nine inches. He also has zero issues with butterfingers or weight management.

Bowe will receive the lion's share of double teams from opposing defenses next season. It's quite possibly Bowe's 15-TD 2010 season will result in huge opportunities for Baldwin on the opposite side. The Chiefs aren't about to throw the ball 35 times a game so, there aren't that many footballs to go around. Catches, yards and especially redzone touchdown catches are not going to be fairly rationed. It's not good strategy.

There's trouble brewing here and with Bowe preparing for what will surely be a season aimed at a fat contract, things could get ugly. Pioli and Haley think they've added a threat to their offense. It's quite possibly they've threatened the chemistry of the offense, instead.

[BigMeatballDave]

Whitlock sucks the penis

[keg in kc]

Bowe should be thrilled. Better guy across the field means more single-coverage opportunities for him. It might hurt his TD numbers (which were likely an aberration anyway..), but it should help his reception and yardage totals. It's not like you're limited to one 1000-yard receiver or something, and odds are we'll be able to pass more which means more opportunities.

[warrior]

I rated the article F--

[dallaschiefsfan]

Yes, Jason...the Chiefs should ignore positions of needs because it might disrupt chemistry. Makes perfect sense. Good gawd...Whitlock fancies himself as some insightful therapist/writer that's overly obsessed with thinking he knows people's motives and the apparently-fragile mental-makeup of NFL wide receivers. Go back to sports writing...leave the therapy up to Zack Greinke's shrink.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Hey Whitlock knows WR's, afterall he played WR in college.

[beach tribe]

Can Bowe And Baldwin Coexist?

Whitlock

Dwayne Bowe just finished a record-setting Pro Bowl season and affirmed his draft position. Did Scott Pioli and Todd Haley just undermine his achievement and challenge his position as KC's #1 receiver by drafting Pitt's Jonathan Baldwin Thursday night?

More importantly, can Bowe's ego take it?

I'm serious. Prima donna NFL wide receivers are incredibly insecure people. They crave the spotlight, loathe sharing it, and pout when someone else steals it.

It's not difficult to foresee Baldwin stealing Bowe's glory. He's bigger, a tenth of a second faster and bests his vertical jump by a full nine inches. He also has zero issues with butterfingers or weight management.

Bowe will receive the lion's share of double teams from opposing defenses next season. It's quite possibly Bowe's 15-TD 2010 season will result in huge opportunities for Baldwin on the opposite side. The Chiefs aren't about to throw the ball 35 times a game so, there aren't that many footballs to go around. Catches, yards and especially redzone touchdown catches are not going to be fairly rationed. It's not good strategy.

There's trouble brewing here and with Bowe preparing for what will surely be a season aimed at a fat contract, things could get ugly. Pioli and Haley think they've added a threat to their offense. It's quite possibly they've threatened the chemistry of the offense, instead.

Good God Whitlock is butthurt.
Having Balwin opposite Bowe could very well, make him the most productive WR in football.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Bump for sweet Whitlock justice.

[Hammock Parties]

Can Bowe And Baldwin Coexist?

Whitlock

Dwayne Bowe just finished a record-setting Pro Bowl season and affirmed his draft position. Did Scott Pioli and Todd Haley just undermine his achievement and challenge his position as KC's #1 receiver by drafting Pitt's Jonathan Baldwin Thursday night?

More importantly, can Bowe's ego take it?

I'm serious. Prima donna NFL wide receivers are incredibly insecure people. They crave the spotlight, loathe sharing it, and pout when someone else steals it.

It's not difficult to foresee Baldwin stealing Bowe's glory. He's bigger, a tenth of a second faster and bests his vertical jump by a full nine inches. He also has zero issues with butterfingers or weight management.

Bowe will receive the lion's share of double teams from opposing defenses next season. It's quite possibly Bowe's 15-TD 2010 season will result in huge opportunities for Baldwin on the opposite side. The Chiefs aren't about to throw the ball 35 times a game so, there aren't that many footballs to go around. Catches, yards and especially redzone touchdown catches are not going to be fairly rationed. It's not good strategy.

There's trouble brewing here and with Bowe preparing for what will surely be a season aimed at a fat contract, things could get ugly. Pioli and Haley think they've added a threat to their offense. It's quite possibly they've threatened the chemistry of the offense, instead.

Hehe.

I wrote this.

[Hammock Parties]

This is the main problem with this article. Whitlock believes there's a chance in hell an NFL front officer of the year would make a King-Carl mistake. He believes Pioli might actually trade for Cassel based on his ego instead of an objective evaluation of Cassel's abilities, of which Pioli has a better read on than almost anyone in football.

Of course, Whitlock thinks that way because he probably watched about three Patriots' games last year. Had he actually done some research this offseason instead of chalking up Cassel's success to Randy Moss, he would realize Cassel played really well and showed a lot of smarts, accuracy, athleticism.

So it's not surprising we're sitting here reading ANOTHER, quite frankly, BORING and MEANINGLESS rant about how horrible Pioli is when the Chiefs are getting set to play the Eagles.

Would it KILL Jason to write about FOOTBALL, you know, actual players, strategy, his BFF Donovan McNabb, all that good stuff? Like he has done in the past, does an excellent job with but someHOW REFUSES to do this year apart from a couple times?

FAIL, Whitlock. FAIL.

Man I was stupid here....serve that crow jwhit.

[Bugeater]

A sound football decision.

No longer the only one.

Obviously not.
Heh.