Sports Talk Radio in Phoenix - Boldin/LJ

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

At lunch today, I sat one table away from Mike Jurecki, who covers the Cardinals for one of the sports talk stations here in Phoenix. I've know Mike since 2000 when NFLScoop.com started.

We briefly talked and he informed me that the Cardinals and Chiefs are talking trade involving Boldin and Larry Johnson. Arizona is just frustrated with their ground game and they need a spark.

We both feel the deal will never happen but at least the teams are talking. He also said the Baltimore Ravens have inquired about Boldin.

[the Talking Can]

jimp

[bevischief]

Can't hurt at this point...

[kysirsoze]

This would be so great, but I think it's a pipe dream.

[Demonpenz]

send them LJ and a 3rd.

[Brock]

If you can't run the ball anyway, no matter who your RB is, it's probably an okay idea.

[Gonzo]

I WOULD THE WHOLE THING

[OnTheWarpath15]

WTF did they spend a 1st round pick on Beanie Wells for, if they aren't going to use him?

[DeezNutz]

LJ and some kamikaze shots.

[ChiTown]

In a heartbeat, but I seriously doubt this happens.

[kysirsoze]

WTF did they spend a 1st round pick on Beanie Wells for?

FYP

[wild1]

I wonder what else we'd have to throw in to get them to take Johnson for him. A 2nd or 3rd?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

We both agree it might not happen. This would move Jamaal Charles into the starting role.

As for Wells...there is a giant belief by many in the Cardinal org that they have already whiffed on this pick.

[bevischief]

And Thigpen too.

[doomy3]

There is no way this can seriously happen.

[doomy3]

We both agree it might not happen. This would move Jamaal Charles into the starting role.

As for Wells...there is a giant belief by many in the Cardinal org that they have already whiffed on this pick.

And Thigpen too.

Thigpen and LJ for Boldin and Wells!!

FTW!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Laz]

thigpen and LJ for Boldin!!!!!

[DeezNutz]

We'll trade you one extremely productive WR for your broke-dick dog. Deal?

[The Franchise]

We both agree it might not happen. This would move Jamaal Charles into the starting role.

As for Wells...there is a giant belief by many in the Cardinal org that they have already whiffed on this pick.

I dont' believe it....but if that is the case. We'll take Boldin and Wells for LJ, Thigpen and a 2nd round pick.

[ModSocks]

That would be too good to be true. So it will never happen.

LJ + a 2nd (From ATL) for Boldin.....I could only dream.....

[Sure-Oz]

I still think we need to try and trade for him, but LJ won't be part of the deal, they haven't even given beanie a chance to run

[Titty Meat]

Not this shit again

[Red Brooklyn]

Deal!



But this isn't going to happen.

[wild1]

I still think we need to try and trade for him, but LJ won't be part of the deal, they haven't even given beanie a chance to run

No kidding. They spent a first round pick on a running back last year, didn't they?

[Anyong Bluth]

i'd be elated w this but doubt it'll ever even be remotely possible! would sure be some welcome news given how depressing it has around here as of late.
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[ModSocks]

We must accept that we are chiefs fans and that nothing like this will ever happen for us. The last time we made a deal that was worth a shit was for Roaf.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Not a chance in hell.

[Gonzo]

Not a chance in hell.


I take it you're a "Glass half empty" kinda guy Floppy?

[DJ's left nut]

Wake me when John Goodman dies.

[MMXcalibur]

Everytime I see one of these topics, I get sexually aroused.
Then my dick goes limp when I realize how astronomically improbable this trade would be.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I take it you're a "Glass half empty" kinda guy Floppy?

I'm an eternal optimist. But my daddy always told me if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

[Micjones]

It'd be nice, but they most certainly won't give us Boldin for Johnson straight up.
Johnson + 3rd Round pick (2010) would be more than fair though.

[Iowanian]

I WOULD THE WHOLE THING

I would the leftovers.

[HemiEd]

In a heartbeat, but I seriously doubt this happens.

yep, pipe dream.

[Titty Meat]

Clark is too cheap he wont pay Boldin the money he wants

[Mile High Mania]

This is a dumb idea.

[seclark]

I would the leftovers.

and i'd the cats away from the rest.
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[Gonzo]

Wake me when John Goodman dies.

Finally!!!!

A chance to use this. I haven't used it in for-evah!


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[Iowanian]

This is a dumb idea.

I'd rather trade Thigpen to Miami for Jake Long, but I don't think they'll go for it.

[Gonzo]

I'd rather trade Thigpen to Miami for Jake Long, but I don't think they'll go for it.

They might the whole thing?

[Iowanian]

I don't think they'd the whole thing without some ghb and a lubricated Magnum.

[Christofire]

Boldin would be great, but should we trade LJ for an o-linemen instead?

[BryanBusby]

Boldin would be great, but should we trade LJ for an o-linemen instead?

Trading LJ for whatever you could possibly get would be a good idea. If AZ wants to offer a pack of condoms and a Rick Astley vinyl, you pull that trigger.

[WildTurkey]

Trading LJ for whatever you could possibly get would be a good idea. If AZ wants to offer a pack of condoms and a Rick Astley vinyl, you pull that trigger.

sounds too good to be true... you know those Rick Astley Vinyls are pretty valuable ROFL

[raybec 4]

Not this shit again

What do you mean? I think we could probably get Boldin for LJ straight up and I heard because of the Pioli/BB connection they will trade us Brady and Matt Light for Tamba Hali and Indukwe. Of course that's just a rumor so take it for what it's worth.

[Titty Meat]

What do you mean? I think we could probably get Boldin for LJ straight up and I heard because of the Pioli/BB connection they will trade us Brady and Matt Light for Tamba Hali and Indukwe. Of course that's just a rumor so take it for what it's worth.

Theres been rumors that the Chiefs would trade for Boldin since the draft. Radio stations in Iowa, Bangladesh, ect have reported of trade rumors. The truth is Clark Hunt is cheap he's not going to pay Cassel 63 mil and whatever Boldin wants.

[vailpass]

jurecki knows his football. i'm listening to Bickley & MJ right now.
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[raybec 4]

Theres been rumors that the Chiefs would trade for Boldin since the draft. Radio stations in Iowa, Bangladesh, ect have reported of trade rumors. The truth is Clark Hunt is cheap he's not going to pay Cassel 63 mil and whatever Boldin wants.

Sarcasm meter broke??

[Titty Meat]

Sarcasm meter broke??

The report from bangladesh was a joke but there were other rumors that werent. And Clark Hunt is paying Herm Edwards/ Pioli/Haley/ Cassel and paying for stadium renovations. He isn't going to be spending money on Boldin.

[CoMoChief]

FUCK YOU no way in anyteams right mind would this happen.

That's like us trading Bowe to the Pats for Fred Taylor. Except that trade would almost be more reasonable.

[Mr. Laz]

**** YOU no way in anyteams right mind would this happen..so there is a chance. PBJ

[chiefzilla1501]

Boldin would be great, but should we trade LJ for an o-linemen instead?

Exactly.

Wide receiver is actually the least of our problems. I actually think our receivers have played pretty decent, given the circumstances.

[Titty Meat]

Boldin and Bowe wouldnt have made a difference vs the Eagles

[Thig Lyfe]

LJ would somehow rush for 2,000 yards with the Cardinals and Boldin would strangle Bowe in an on-field murder-suicide.

[TEX]

We need O-LINEMEN

[BryanBusby]

We need O-LINEMEN

Uh this team basically needs anything that isn't a kicker or a QB

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

At lunch today, I sat one table away from Mike Jurecki, who covers the Cardinals for one of the sports talk stations here in Phoenix. I've know Mike since 2000 when NFLScoop.com started.

We briefly talked and he informed me that the Cardinals and Chiefs are talking trade involving Boldin and Larry Johnson. Arizona is just frustrated with their ground game and they need a spark.

We both feel the deal will never happen but at least the teams are talking. He also said the Baltimore Ravens have inquired about Boldin.

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[RippedmyFlesh]

Exactly.

Wide receiver is actually the least of our problems. I actually think our receivers have played pretty decent, given the circumstances.
That's true herm ...wouldnt want any of that arena league scoring offense around here.

[Hammock Parties]

As much as it saddens me, this would be a smart football move.

[Pioli Zombie]

Why do people think LJ has any value whatsoever? He's cooked!! Done. You'd be fortunate to get a 5th or 6th round pick from some brain dead team.
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[RippedmyFlesh]

As much as it saddens me, this would be a smart football move.
You are growing up before our eyes.

[MahiMike]

I'm callin bullshit on this one. Arizona has 2 guys that are each better than LJ.

[Pioli Zombie]

Ted Kennedy is better than LJ
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[Brock]

I'm callin bullshit on this one. Arizona has 2 guys that are each better than LJ.

Who?

[DeezNutz]

Who?

Hightower and Wells.

I'd take either over LJ right now.

[CoMoChief]

We could have Brady and Fitzgerald and it still wouldn't have mattered.

Oline is where games are won. Everything starts there and has to go right in order for a play to develop.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What a crock of shit.

[Brock]

Hightower and Wells.

I'd take either over LJ right now.

That's ridiculous.

[kcpasco]

What a crock of shit.

THIS

[WildTurkey]

Hightower and Wells.

I'd take either over LJ right now.

This....

[WildTurkey]

We could have Brady and Fitzgerald and it still wouldn't have mattered.

Oline is where games are won. Everything starts there and has to go right in order for a play to develop.

Bullshit... you have been brainwashed by being a Chiefs fan for too long

[DumbHillbillies]

This is a cruel rumor joke just to get my hopes up. Bastard.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We could have Brady and Fitzgerald and it still wouldn't have mattered.

Oline is where games are won. Everything starts there and has to go right in order for a play to develop.

There's only ONE WAY to fix this O-line; 1st round, top 10 picks, and LOTS of them.

Hamas told me so.:)

[WildTurkey]

There's only ONE WAY to fix this O-line; 1st round, top 10 picks, and LOTS of them.

Hamas told me so.:)

There is no need for any playmakers... when you have the world's greatest O-Line :shake:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

There is no need for any playmakers... when you have the world's greatest O-Line :shake:

When you have an immovable brick wall, the world is your oyster.

[kysirsoze]

Hightower and Wells.

I'd take either over LJ right now.

You cannot be serious.

[Brock]

You cannot be serious.

As far as Chiefsplanet is concerned, LJ is the worst RB in the league. I'm serious, some around here would rather have literally any other RB than Larry Johnson.

[DrRyan]

Hightower and Wells.

I'd take either over LJ right now.

That is at least debatable. It is tough to judge behind the swiss cheese line the Chiefs have, but even so, LJ has looked abysmally slow hitting the hole and getting through it.

Edit: With the exception(fluke?) of last season's 12 games, LJ's ypc have went down every year since 2005.

[KCrockaholic]

That is at least debatable. It is tough to judge behind the swiss cheese line the Chiefs have, but even so, LJ has looked abysmally slow hitting the hole and getting through it.

Edit: With the exception(fluke?) of last season's 12 games, LJ's ypc have went down every year since 2005.

Jamaal atleast doesnt always go down on first contact. Thats a plus that LJ doesnt have anymore.

[WildTurkey]

You cannot be serious.

Hightower and Wells are young and have some gas left in the tank.... Herm killed off LJ long ago

[BigChief68]

Get it done already!!!!!!ROFL

[MahiMike]

You cannot be serious.

Dead serious. There are currently 30 other RB's in the league I'd rather have than LJ.

[Hammock Parties]

As far as Chiefsplanet is concerned, LJ is the worst RB in the league. I'm serious, some around here would rather have literally any other RB than Larry Johnson.

He is a lightning rod for criticism now that Herm is gone.

[Hammock Parties]

Dead serious. There are currently 30 other RB's in the league I'd rather have than LJ.

Todd Haley doesn't share your opinion.

[Sure-Oz]

I'd love to see how 'shitty' LJ would be with a solid line

[RedThat]

Why would Arizona want to trade Boldin for LJ? Especially when they drafted Beanie Wells.

They would be very stupid to do that. That sounds to good to be true.

[Hammock Parties]

With the exception(fluke?) of last season's 12 games, LJ's ypc have went down every year since 2005.

So basically, they haven't?

I mean...kind of a retarded thing to say.

[bowener]

At lunch today, I sat one table away from Mike Jurecki, who covers the Cardinals for one of the sports talk stations here in Phoenix. I've know Mike since 2000 when NFLScoop.com started.

We briefly talked and he informed me that the Cardinals and Chiefs are talking trade involving Boldin and Larry Johnson. Arizona is just frustrated with their ground game and they need a spark.

We both feel the deal will never happen but at least the teams are talking. He also said the Baltimore Ravens have inquired about Boldin.

Well god damn, Cards aren't looking real hard if they are willing to take LJ or McGahee (which is who it would be - odd man out, there). Both were drafted in the 03 draft, and both have been injured as well as abused... is there something we dont know about Boldin? Does he smell really really bad or something?

[DrRyan]

So basically, they haven't?

I mean...kind of a retarded thing to say.

Don't get defensive about your boy. His YPC have went down, and dramatically, with the exception of last year. You have to see how incredibly slow he hits the hole and how he is rarely, if ever, breaking tackles like he used to.

2005 5.2 ypc
2006 4.3 ypc
2007 3.5 ypc
2008 4.5 ypc
2009 2.5 ypc through three games

I would call that a trend. He bounced back and put together a good season last year while he was healthy but there is no denying there is a trend.

[Mecca]

Arizona just used a 1st round pick on a RB, this makes 0 sense.

[Skip Towne]

Todd Haley doesn't share your opinion.

LJ isn't even a good battering ram anymore. Nobody is going to trade for him.

[Hammock Parties]

Don't get defensive about your boy. His YPC have went down, and dramatically, with the exception of last year.

OK, so, you're wrong. His YPC hasn't been steadily decreasing.

By the end of the year, who knows what his average is?

Stop reaching. It has everything to do with the offensive line and the offensive system being run.

[Pioli Zombie]

LJ isn't worth a bucket of warm spit in a womans face.
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[Dartgod]

Don't get defensive about your boy. His YPC have went down, and dramatically, with the exception of last year. You have to see how incredibly slow he hits the hole and how he is rarely, if ever, breaking tackles like he used to.

2005 5.2 ypc
2006 4.3 ypc
2007 3.5 ypc
2008 4.5 ypc
2009 2.5 ypc through three games

I would call that a trend. He bounced back and put together a good season last year while he was healthy but there is no denying there is a trend.
I'm no huge LJ fan, but to be fair, In '05 we had Roaf, Shields and the rest of a pretty good offensive line. We lost Roaf in 2006, Shields in 2007 and went down hill from there.

[WildTurkey]

LJ just doesn't seem to have any burst left.... he looks incredibly slow even when he gets some open field to run in

[milkman]

I'm an eternal optimist. But my daddy always told me if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

It's good to know that you did listen to me occassionally.

[MahiMike]

I'm no huge LJ fan, but to be fair, In '05 we had Roaf, Shields and the rest of a pretty good offensive line. We lost Roaf in 2006, Shields in 2007 and went down hill from there.

22 RBs off the street could run behind that line. Now we see what our RBs are really made of.

[jaa1025]

Even if we had LJ of 4 years ago he'd still be averaging 2.5 ypc. He's a system RB that relies on a line that can actually open up holes. He gets hit before he gets to the line 9 times out of 10. We need Charles to be the starter because he's much quicker and can make the first guy miss behind the line.

[Straight, No Chaser]

At lunch today, I sat one table away from Mike Jurecki, who covers the Cardinals for one of the sports talk stations here in Phoenix. I've know Mike since 2000 when NFLScoop.com started.

We briefly talked and he informed me that the Cardinals and Chiefs are talking trade involving Boldin and Larry Johnson. Arizona is just frustrated with their ground game and they need a spark.

We both feel the deal will never happen but at least the teams are talking. He also said the Baltimore Ravens have inquired about Boldin.

I doubt very much Jurecki would be floating that type of info considering he has an afternoon show from 2 to 6 and relies heavily on Cardinal insiders to give him good dope... this will never happen.

Anyway, why trade one malcontent for another?

[CH13FS]

I doubt very much Jurecki would be floating that type of info considering he has an afternoon show from 2 to 6 and relies heavily on Cardinal insiders to give him good dope... this will never happen.

Anyway, why trade one malcontent for another?

This.

[HMc]

i heard roaf is coming back

his stuff is still in the locker room

[Rausch]

At lunch today, I sat one table away from Mike Jurecki, who covers the Cardinals for one of the sports talk stations here in Phoenix. I've know Mike since 2000 when NFLScoop.com started.

We briefly talked and he informed me that the Cardinals and Chiefs are talking trade involving Boldin and Larry Johnson.
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[DrRyan]

OK, so, you're wrong. His YPC hasn't been steadily decreasing.

By the end of the year, who knows what his average is?

Stop reaching. It has everything to do with the offensive line and the offensive system being run.

LJ just doesn't seem to have any burst left.... he looks incredibly slow even when he gets some open field to run in

This.

Not reaching GC, LJ has lost a step. That is all I was saying to begin with. If you cannot see that he has lost a step you are not watching very closely or your LJ man crush is blinding you.

The line is terrible, yes. But, there have been more than a few occasions where a hole is there and LJ is just slow getting to and through the hole. Would a better line help his YPC? Yes. Would it give him back the step he seems to have lost? No.

[Hammock Parties]

This.

Not reaching GC, LJ has lost a step. That is all I was saying to begin with. If you cannot see that he has lost a step you are not watching very closely or your LJ man crush is blinding you.

The line is terrible, yes. But, there have been more than a few occasions where a hole is there and LJ is just slow getting to and through the hole. Would a better line help his YPC? Yes. Would it give him back the step he seems to have lost? No.

I agree with you, but he is still an effective runner. The line is a much larger issue. I do like Charles, though. I would like to see him get more carries on first down to see what he can do.