PDA

View Full Version : Chiefs Haley's Monday Presser live at 3:00 PM


Coogs
10-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Just a heads up.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/default.asp

Coogs
10-12-2009, 01:52 PM
I really hope someone asks about the decision to run LJ on 2nd and 10, and what the thought process was behind that call.

And also if there will be any consideration to trying a new C and RG at the very least on the O-line.

HemiEd
10-12-2009, 01:55 PM
I predict " We just need to learn how to win."

jidar
10-12-2009, 01:55 PM
I really hope someone asks about the decision to run LJ on 2nd and 10, and what the thought process was behind that call.

And also if there will be any consideration to trying a new C and RG at the very least on the O-line.

The thought process behind running the ball on 2nd and 10? Is this a joke post?

Coogs
10-12-2009, 01:59 PM
The thought process behind running the ball on 2nd and 10? Is this a joke post?

From the 50 in OT? No this is not a joke post. We were in position to win the game. LJ sucked balls the whole game, minus two carries. The slant play the play before nearly worked, and would have had us in FG range immediately if it would have. The passing game was clicking at that point.

That call doomed us to the loss. Hell as soon as I saw it was a run, I knew we were screwed, so element of surprise couldn't have been a factor.

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:02 PM
I hope someone asks him if it's time to make a change at RB.
I hope someone else asks him if Alleman will retain the starting RG spot.

Jethopper
10-12-2009, 02:03 PM
My money is on "I saw alot of positive things out there today. We just need to keep progressing as a team."

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:04 PM
I hope somebody will ask him :

1) Why is DJ not playing more.
2) Why was Albert a good tackle last year and now he's the shits ?
3) Why LJ has to run straight up the middle play after play after play ?
4) If he thinks he has any sort of a clue what he's doing ?
5) If he's ever jacked off a pig. I know it's not relevant but it would still be funny.

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:04 PM
He's running late today, they are running game highlights.

Nero's Neptune
10-12-2009, 02:04 PM
From the 50 in OT? No this is not a joke post. We were in position to win the game. LJ sucked balls the whole game, minus two carries. The slant play the play before nearly worked, and would have had us in FG range immediately if it would have. The passing game was clicking at that point.

That call doomed us to the loss. Hell as soon as I saw it was a run, I knew we were screwed, so element of surprise couldn't have been a factor.

Exactly!! I'm glad to see someone else mentiont this. I was so pissed after that play. What a terrible call. It was so obvious that the running game just wasn't working at that point. There was no reason to continue trying it. The only needed 15 yards to be in field goal range... and the passing game had been gaining yards. That call cost us the game. They only needed 1 more 1st down and it was over.... just brutal.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:05 PM
He's running late today, they are running game highlights.

So he'll be in at 3:01

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:14 PM
Now 15 minutes late.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:16 PM
Haley:

Thanks for coming...notes that he made several mistakes in yesterday's game.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:16 PM
Washington presents a great challenge, etc. etc.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:17 PM
Question about LJ...

Haley: I still see him as a franchise back. Has been pleased with his production and vision.

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:17 PM
lol, they shouldn't show those lowlights. Two dumbasses let the defender jump over them to block the FG. And they both look like what fck just happened. I don't know but I'm going to but my thumb back in my ass now. Me too

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:18 PM
Cassel: "Matty has been doing everything we could ask of him." Sees a young Trent Green in his play. Just needs a defense.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:19 PM
Disappointed he couldn't make it to Nzoner's. Team rallied around the theme of, "Win one for Dole." Obviously fell short.

Bwana
10-12-2009, 02:19 PM
Question about LJ...

Haley: I still see him as a franchise back. Has been pleased with his production and vision.

:spock:

kstater
10-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Cassel: "Matty has been doing everything we could ask of him." Sees a young Trent Green in his play. Just needs a defense.LMAO

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Egoli likes Philly better than KC. /whitlock.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:22 PM
Says he believes our OL will be one of the best in the league.

Deberg_1990
10-12-2009, 02:22 PM
Haley: Pleased with play of Tyson Jackson....sees alot of a young Michael Strahan

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:23 PM
O-line:

"It's a process." Albert dinged. Hopeful to get him back. Might ease him into the lineup by getting him in his natural position, guard. "Good prep for upcoming draft."

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:24 PM
Says Tyson Jackson is doing what he's supposed to do. we didn't draft him to make sacks or tackles.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:24 PM
Asked about Mike Brown's play:

"Providing the vet. leadership we need. Definitely part of the 'Right 53', regardless of what the 'Gang of 14' say."

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:24 PM
Haley: Pleased with play of Tyson Jackson....sees alot of a young Michael Strahan


Like when Strahan was 4 years old.

JuicesFlowing
10-12-2009, 02:25 PM
Isn't the presser usually on Tuesday?

MVChiefFan
10-12-2009, 02:25 PM
Haley: Pleased with play of Tyson Jackson....sees alot of a young Michael Strahan

He has film of Strahan in the 8th grade?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:25 PM
Anyone want to take action on Haley having blown his brains out like the warden in Shawshank?

MVChiefFan
10-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Like when Strahan was 4 years old.

Dangit Hog Farmer! You stole my thunder! :D

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Isn't the presser usually on Tuesday?

It usually is but they wanted to give him one less day to come up with excuses.

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Haley: There's no doubt in my mind that we must absolutely without a doubt eliminate the negative plays, peroid.

Coogs
10-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Isn't the presser usually on Tuesday?

It used to be, but they changed it to Monday 3 or 4 weeks ago.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Anyone want to take action on Haley having blown his brains out like the warden in Shawshank?

This movie is far too hopeful to be our season-long metaphor.

I prefer: The Right 53, 1 Cup.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:29 PM
Asked about AlbertL

He's a puss. Most tackles would have rubbed a little dirt on it and kept playing . God damn mother fucker.

petegz28
10-12-2009, 02:31 PM
is he going to give a presser? Or do we have to hear KK continue to whine about not going for 2? Of course, had we gone for 2 and not made it KK would be ripping him for that.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:34 PM
What about the three DL guys you brought in this week :

They're replacing Jackson, Dorsey and Hali against the Redskins. we've gotta find out if they can play or not. Pendy gave thim a playbook and told them to get with it or they'ed be cut immediately.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:35 PM
is he going to give a presser? Or do we have to hear KK continue to whine about not going for 2? Of course, had we gone for 2 and not made it KK would be ripping him for that.

The online stream for 810 isn't working. Did he go apeshit about the Dallas Texans gear?

Coogs
10-12-2009, 02:36 PM
is he going to give a presser? Or do we have to hear KK continue to whine about not going for 2? Of course, had we gone for 2 and not made it KK would be ripping him for that.

Going for 1 and the tie was the right thing to do IMO. And we had the ball at the 50 in OT. Can't ask for more than that... other than the run to LJ on 2nd and 10.

Coogs
10-12-2009, 02:36 PM
Just ready to start.

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 02:36 PM
Haley: "I believe Adkins is a lunch pale type of guy and is going to you his all in every rehearsal. Trace is a guy I have a lot of confidence in. Like his leadership alot. Like what he brings vocally. Like how the man fills out his jeans."

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Thanks for joining us, Todd. You're only 35 minutes late.

Iowanian
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
I guess Haley feels like if we'll wait 2 years for a win, we don't mind waiting 40 minutes for him to deflect questions about looking like shit again.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Fucking finally. Blames it on OT, b/c the tape was longer.

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
He's aging at a rate of 3 years every week.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:38 PM
About the comeback: "We can build on this"

ROFL

petegz28
10-12-2009, 02:38 PM
The online stream for 810 isn't working. Did he go apeshit about the Dallas Texans gear?

works for me

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:39 PM
Kind of calling Bowe out for not catching the slant on 1st and 10 from the 50.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
works for me

Congrats.

No answer to the question, though?

Red Dawg
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Kind of calling Bowe out for not catching the slant on 1st and 10 from the 50.

It did hit both of his hands.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Dude needs a fucking shit, shave, and a shower.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
When asked why his kicking team allowed them to block the FG so easily:

Well, we as a coaching staff didn't realize fat people could jump like that . Thats something we'll have to consider in the future. Also Pendy told me he thought it was against the rules, but I guess it wasn't. I'm spending a little more time this week studying the rule book. it's a learning process. and if I find out Pendy was wrong I'm gonna can that mother fucker.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Kind of calling Bowe out for not catching the slant on 1st and 10 from the 50.

Bus, meet Bowe.

Backed off a bit at the end...

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Kind of calling Bowe out for not catching the slant on 1st and 10 from the 50.

And then says there was "some action" (implying pass interference/holding) going on over there with Jenkins.

So, which is it, Todd?

AustinChief
10-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Kind of calling Bowe out for not catching the slant on 1st and 10 from the 50.
I took it as a bit of a call out and also a cmment rearding possible pass interference on the play.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:41 PM
that was really perfect coverage by jenkins

i mean, ideally, bowe gets a half foot more separation or cassel puts it a half foot more in front of him....but the guy just made a great play

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
LJ ran hard, needs a little help. Commends him on two blitz pick ups.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
"Thought that Larry ran hard."

Kinda misleading b/c of swing passes count as run plays and negatively affected his numbers. Ran hard. "Stuck it up in there."

Well, that explains his continued PT.

Shag
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
And then says there was "some action" (implying pass interference/holding) going on over there with Jenkins.

So, which is it, Todd?

Why can't it be both? Whatever the case with Jenkins, he should have caught that ball...

petegz28
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
fuck this, I will have to read it later. I can't take KK crying about not going for 2 anymore

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:42 PM
When asked why his kicking team allowed them to block the FG so easily:

Well, we as a coaching staff didn't realize fat people could jump like that . Thats something we'll have to consider in the future. Also Pendy told me he thought it was against the rules, but I guess it wasn't. I'm spending a little more time this week studying the rule book. it's a learning process. and if I find out Pendy was wrong I'm gonna can that mother ****er.

ROFL

Red Dawg
10-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Why can't it be both? Whatever the case with Jenkins, he should have caught that ball...

Damn straight. A WR with speed would have had separation, but we don't any WR's with speed.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:44 PM
ROFL

"you're the DJ question guy?"

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 02:44 PM
nick wright = derrick johnson guy

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:44 PM
Bullshit. Bullfuckingshit.

Best chance to win. Hello, Brown.

Iowanian
10-12-2009, 02:44 PM
Haley is pissed off by the D Johnson question.

He obviously doesn't give a shit about DJ and doesn't like him. He's as good as gone.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Guy asks a question about DJ, Haley labels him "DJ question guy" and then goes into a rant about "The guys who give us the best chance to win", praises DeMorrio, and then invokes "The Right 53".

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
You're the Derrick Johnson question guy, aren't you.

You should be talking about Demorrio Williams.

Basically, Haley has no intentions of ever playing DJ.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Wife: "I believe in you, honey." LMAO

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
he clearly thinks williams is better than DJ

and i think he thinks DJ is a puss

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:45 PM
That was some kind of knee-jerk response to the Derrick Johnson question.
I wonder what happened because he obviously just doesn't like the kid.

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:46 PM
he clearly thinks williams is better than DJ

and i think he thinks DJ is a puss

Then trade his ass for a 7th. Anything.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:46 PM
Guy asks a question about DJ, Haley labels him "DJ question guy" and then goes into a rant about "The guys who give us the best chance to win", praises DeMorrio, and then invokes "The Right 53".

it's nick wright..he talked about asking the question all morning on his show

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:46 PM
LJ ran hard, needs a little help. Commends him on two blitz pick ups.

And says he sucked at the other twelve.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:46 PM
Then trade his ass for a 7th. Anything.

i'm going to bet they've tried, or will again in the offseason

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Guy asks a question about DJ, Haley labels him "DJ question guy" and then goes into a rant about "The guys who give us the best chance to win", praises DeMorrio, and then invokes "The Right 53".

Damn, thats not a good sign for DJs future here

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Then trade his ass for a 7th. Anything.

Agreed.
Get something out of him.

I'd hope we could do better than a 7th.
He's a good football player.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:47 PM
On the Austin catches: "We just gotta make the tackle, whether it's Maurice, Mike Brown, or someone else."

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Refuses to blame Brown on the Austin TD's.

Shag
10-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Have to make the tackle, whether it's Maurice, Mike Brown, or someone else. I'll take someone else at S, please...

Red Dawg
10-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Who cares if DJ ever plays. He's had more than enogh chances to porve he was worthy of being a 1 pick. Alot of teams passed on him for not being physical enough to get off blocks. If our coaches think he's second string then maybe he is. Trade his ass for a pick. The 3-4 demands tough LB's for certain and maybe his isn't one.

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:49 PM
God I hope he doesn't let his personal feelings of his players interfere with good judgment and putting the best man on the field.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:49 PM
Haley said he rates guys as "did they help us win, were they just average, or did they hurt us"

then he rasied his hand high and said williams played "up here" or somthing like that, clearly implying he was pleased with his play

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:49 PM
That was some kind of knee-jerk response to the Derrick Johnson question.
I wonder what happened because he obviously just doesn't like the kid.

DJ is soft

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:49 PM
On Bowe's catch: "Big time play. He needs to build on that if he wants to push the team where it needs to go to."

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:50 PM
God I hope he doesn't let his personal feelings of his players interfere with good judgment and putting the best man on the field.

Sure looks like it is.

Brown, Goff, DJ.

Just to name a few.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:50 PM
you can tell he still thinks he's not getting something from Bowe...

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 02:50 PM
stress eater

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:51 PM
DJ is soft

Maybe he is, but he's probably the 2nd most physically gifted defender on this football team. And he's also one of few that contributes big plays.

To have this personal vendetta against him is just dumb.
If he doesn't produce...fine...park his ass...

But who else has given you a HUGE Interception and a sack this season? In 2 games...

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 02:51 PM
Ate himself into oblivion to deal with the pain...LMAO

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:51 PM
God I hope he doesn't let his personal feelings of his players interfere with good judgment and putting the best man on the field.


My thinking exactly. DJ has been under bad coaching for some time. he was a stud in college and HAS flashed some good plays. I think he's one of those players that needs to be turned loose to make plays.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:52 PM
"couple of calls I regret"

Fish
10-12-2009, 02:53 PM
God I hope he doesn't let his personal feelings of his players interfere with good judgment and putting the best man on the field.

I'm strongly suspecting that at this point. The fact that he can't even find a way to use DJ's talents in certain specific situations says a lot. Yes he's a liability in most cases, but at least find a way to get something out of him on the field. Send him out for special teams if nothing else. Just don't park him on the bench...

Micjones
10-12-2009, 02:53 PM
My thinking exactly. DJ has been under bad coaching for some time. he was a stud in college and HAS flashed some good plays. I think he's one of those players that needs to be turned loose to make plays.

We can cry over spilled Draft milk until the cows come home, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still a productive football player.

Scrap your 15th overall pick when he gives you NOTHING on the field.
When the kid can play and contribute you can bitch about what he hasn't become all day, but put his ass out there...

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:53 PM
Wow...

"There are times we need to get rid of the football."

(regarding taking hits/sacks)

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 02:54 PM
And that be it.

DumbHillbillies
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
Maybe he is, but he's probably the 2nd most physically gifted defender on this football team. And he's also one of few that contributes big plays.

To have this personal vendetta against him is just dumb.
If he doesn't produce...fine...park his ass...

But who else has given you a HUGE Interception and a sack this season? In 2 games...

I somewhat agree, just put dj in passing plays situations he is obviously too soft to be an everydown player for haley.

the Talking Can
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
and it's a wrap

Sure-Oz
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
"Matt needs to learn this isn't smeer the queer, it's football"

Fish
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
Wow...

"There are times we need to get rid of the football."

(regarding taking hits/sacks)

LEAVE CASSEL ALONE!

http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
http://ncaabbs.com/images/smilies/03-yawn.gif

Another enlightening press conference.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 02:56 PM
So, this week we start bringing in people off the street ?

Fish
10-12-2009, 02:57 PM
At least we didn't hear that we're 0-0 again....

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Guy is going to have a bigtunaesque fupa by the end of this season.

Chiefnj2
10-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Basically, Haley has no intentions of ever playing DJ.

Which is probably why DJ always has some slight injury. Why train for the Tour De France and try to beat Zach Thomas' record if there is no chance the team is going to enter you into the race?

Reaper16
10-12-2009, 03:04 PM
I like Haley less after that PC. Right 53 my ass.

Iowanian
10-12-2009, 03:05 PM
stress eater

He's going to look like Mangina if he doesn't un-suckify this team.

Sure-Oz
10-12-2009, 03:06 PM
You're the Derrick Johnson question guy, aren't you.

You should be talking about Demorrio Williams.

Basically, Haley has no intentions of ever playing DJ.

I really don't get this at all...DJ has stayed pretty quiet so far, suprised he isn't pissed off and asking to be traded or let go. I don't get this personal crap from haley

Chiefnj2
10-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Buffalo lost Kawika Mitchell and another starting LB to injury yesterday. Ship DJ to Buffalo. They'd have to be willing to give up something.

whoman69
10-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Too bad DJ isn't as good as he is in HC. I have him as a pass rusher in 3-4 and he is my best defender. I also happen to have picked up Miles Austin in FA when he was a rookie.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Buffalo lost Kawika Mitchell and another starting LB to injury yesterday. Ship DJ to Buffalo. They'd have to be willing to give up something.

I'd rather ship Haley to Buffalo and keep DJ !

jidar
10-12-2009, 03:15 PM
Go for 2 for the tie? Who the fuck thinks we should have done that?

The only way you would go for 2 is if you had GREAT offense and a terrible defense and even then it's risky. No coach would have gone for 2 in that situation.

KK is just showing how fucking stupid he is. Again.

Sure-Oz
10-12-2009, 03:16 PM
my tweet to dj

@superdj56 Why aren't you on the field, did you kick Todd's dog or something?
less than 20 seconds ago from web

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 03:16 PM
Which is probably why DJ always has some slight injury. Why train for the Tour De France and try to beat Zach Thomas' record if there is no chance the team is going to enter you into the race?

Then do what's best for the team, and either trade him, release him, or de-activate him.

We went into yesterday's game with SEVEN offensive linemen.

Wasting a spot on DJ if you know your not going to play him hurts the team.

Chiefnj2
10-12-2009, 03:24 PM
Go for 2 for the tie? Who the **** thinks we should have done that?

The only way you would go for 2 is if you had GREAT offense and a terrible defense and even then it's risky. No coach would have gone for 2 in that situation.

KK is just showing how ****ing stupid he is. Again.

The Chiefs have lost 9 of their last regular season games. Does going for the win rather than relying on what is typically a 50/50 coin flip a dumb idea? Go for it.

TEX
10-12-2009, 03:30 PM
Go for 2 for the tie? Who the **** thinks we should have done that?

The only way you would go for 2 is if you had GREAT offense and a terrible defense and even then it's risky. No coach would have gone for 2 in that situation.

KK is just showing how ****ing stupid he is. Again.

It was for the WIN and you do it EVERY time when you're as bad as the Chiefs are. You have absolutely nothing to lose, except a game where you have lost 28 out of your last 30.

TEX
10-12-2009, 03:32 PM
I really don't get this at all...DJ has stayed pretty quiet so far, suprised he isn't pissed off and asking to be traded or let go. I don't get this personal crap from haley


He's a total prick.

Brock
10-12-2009, 03:32 PM
I don't think you'll find many coaches who are going to go for the immediate win over playing for OT. That rarely ever happens.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 03:34 PM
I don't think you'll find many coaches who are going to go for the immediate win over playing for OT. That rarely ever happens.

I think Coughlin tried it in the 2nd game the Jags ever played. Herm did it last year. Those are the only two that spring to mind, although I'm sure there have been others.

KCUnited
10-12-2009, 03:38 PM
I think Coughlin tried it in the 2nd game the Jags ever played. Herm did it last year. Those are the only two that spring to mind, although I'm sure there have been others.
Vermeil in Oakland. He was on the radio this morning and said that it converts around 40% of the time.

TEX
10-12-2009, 03:39 PM
I think Coughlin tried it in the 2nd game the Jags ever played. Herm did it last year. Those are the only two that spring to mind, although I'm sure there have been others.

DV did it against the Raiders. He went for the TD rather than the field goal and won.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-12-2009, 03:40 PM
DV did it against the Raiders at Arrowhead. He went for the TD rather than the field goal and won.

I was at that game. Different circumstances. It was from the 1, which actually makes a big difference.

TEX
10-12-2009, 03:43 PM
I was at that game. Different circumstances. It was from the 1, which actually makes a big difference.

I can see your point. Still, I think it's either in you to go for it or it's not. I was surprised because I thought Haley had balls. Maybe he just likes to yell a lot for the hell of it.

DeezNutz
10-12-2009, 03:57 PM
I don't think you'll find many coaches who are going to go for the immediate win over playing for OT. That rarely ever happens.

Go for 2 on the road. Play for OT at home.

With a team as bad as KC, this would be my philosophy.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-12-2009, 03:59 PM
Kicking the point was the right play. Running on 2nd and 10 from the 50 in OT is where he fucked up.

Time's Yours
10-12-2009, 04:03 PM
Go for 2 on the road. Play for OT at home.

With a team as bad as KC, this would be my philosophy.

With this team, I'd roll the dice and go for 2. I'd rather take hedge my bets on the chance of one lucky 3-yard play than hope for a long, sustained drive in overtime.

DaWolf
10-12-2009, 04:05 PM
With this team, I'd roll the dice and go for 2. I'd rather take hedge my bets on the chance of one lucky 3-yard play than hope for a long, sustained drive in overtime.

We had a shot in OT with the ball at midfield. To not be able to move it from there pretty much cost us the win...

Tribal Warfare
10-12-2009, 04:06 PM
I was at that game. Different circumstances. It was from the 1, which actually makes a big difference.

I was too, and I was shitting(metaphorically) my pants when it happened

siberian khatru
10-12-2009, 04:08 PM
I think Coughlin tried it in the 2nd game the Jags ever played. Herm did it last year. Those are the only two that spring to mind, although I'm sure there have been others.

IIRC, Shanahan went for 2 and made it vs. the Chargers last year in that blown-call game.

DaWolf
10-12-2009, 04:11 PM
Derrick Johnson is a guy with a ton of talent and no desire to work hard to be the best. As long as he continues down that road, he will continue to be an average linebacker.

When I read that Gunther had to move him to MIKE in order to force him to concentrate more and get his head into the game, that told me all I needed to know about the wasted pick that was Derrick Johnson...

Coogs
10-12-2009, 04:17 PM
Kicking the point was the right play. Running on 2nd and 10 from the 50 in OT is where he fucked up.

This

Chiefnj2
10-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I can't believe people wouldn't go for it with a team that has lost around 13 straight games (including preseason).

KC is dead last in 3rd down conversions - around 13%. Even if they win the coin toss- 50/50 there is a 99% chance they face a 3rd down where they've consistently been around 13%.

They have to have a much better chance going for the win.

Coogs
10-12-2009, 04:28 PM
I can't believe people wouldn't go for it with a team that has lost around 13 straight games (including preseason).

KC is dead last in 3rd down conversions - around 13%. Even if they win the coin toss- 50/50 there is a 99% chance they face a 3rd down where they've consistently been around 13%.

They have to have a much better chance going for the win.

Don't get me wrong nj. I would have been OK with going for the win as well with the 2 pointer.

But we got the best scenario Haley could have ever hoped for in the OT by getting the ball at the 50. Passing game was clicking the whole 4th quarter, and had a near miss on 1st down. Then to run LJ on 2nd down... that was a major screw up. You knew that play was going no where, and don't tell me hind sight is 20-20, as LJ has looked like the second comming of Donnell Bennett this whole season.

Halfcan
10-12-2009, 04:42 PM
Haley's play calling is on a grade school level. I bet he had someone turn in the opening plays on a napkin.

How many times can you run a draw up the middle??

BigRedChief
10-12-2009, 05:12 PM
he clearly thinks williams is better than DJ

and i think he thinks DJ is a pussMaybe its Haley that thinks DJ is faking?

stevieray
10-12-2009, 05:17 PM
...just more proof that people expect chicken salad when they knew it was chicken shit.

Freking Corey Mays has tackled more consistantly...DJ is guilty of taking himself out of plays..he did it last year quite a bit..

OnTheWarpath15
10-12-2009, 05:21 PM
Maybe its Haley that thinks DJ is faking?

Then de-activate him.

Quit wasting a roster spot, especially when we're only dressing 7 offensive linemen because of it.

Micjones
10-12-2009, 05:24 PM
Then de-activate him.

Quit wasting a roster spot, especially when we're only dressing 7 offensive linemen because of it.

Yep.

Make a smart football decision that isn't rooted in your own personal bias.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-12-2009, 05:26 PM
I can't believe people wouldn't go for it with a team that has lost around 13 straight games (including preseason).

KC is dead last in 3rd down conversions - around 13%. Even if they win the coin toss- 50/50 there is a 99% chance they face a 3rd down where they've consistently been around 13%.

They have to have a much better chance going for the win.

It's such a moot point. They had the ball at the 50. That right there proves it was the right decision. If they're around 13% on third down, how the hell are you going to trust them against a goal line D with one shot from the 2? Their last two drives in regulation were solid. They were moving the ball. There was no reason to think they couldn't continue that momentum.

patteeu
10-12-2009, 05:39 PM
I can see your point. Still, I think it's either in you to go for it or it's not. I was surprised because I thought Haley had balls. Maybe he just likes to yell a lot for the hell of it.

It's more about brains than balls.

There are only three reasons to go for it in that situation, IMO. (1) your team is dominating offensively, (2) your defense isn't stopping anyone, or (3) you want your team to know you don't have any faith in them at all. The only reason that could have applied to the Chiefs on Sunday was (3) and I don't think sending that message would have been worth the win.

RustShack
10-12-2009, 05:40 PM
Haley's play calling is on a grade school level. I bet he had someone turn in the opening plays on a napkin.

How many times can you run a draw up the middle??

The Chiefs have only been in this offensive scheme for a little over a month. Players can be in an offense for a year and still not have it down. We should get better and better on offense as the season goes on. Waiting until after the third pre season game to change the entire offense hurt the team a lot.

Chiefnj2
10-12-2009, 05:46 PM
It's such a moot point. They had the ball at the 50. That right there proves it was the right decision. If they're around 13% on third down, how the hell are you going to trust them against a goal line D with one shot from the 2? Their last two drives in regulation were solid. They were moving the ball. There was no reason to think they couldn't continue that momentum.

The team has a habit of losing. There is no reason to think they would ever continue to have momentum or that the defense can keep holding up. Even if they didn't go for it on 4th down, you don't punt in overtime. An 0-13 team shouldn't play field position in overtime.

LOCOChief
10-12-2009, 05:46 PM
Then de-activate him.

Quit wasting a roster spot, especially when we're only dressing 7 offensive linemen because of it.

I can't imagine that would be helpful in terms of trade value.

Micjones
10-12-2009, 05:48 PM
The Chiefs have only been in this offensive scheme for a little over a month. Players can be in an offense for a year and still not have it down. We should get better and better on offense as the season goes on. Waiting until after the third pre season game to change the entire offense hurt the team a lot.

I don't think most fans realize just how improbable it is to install a brand new offense 1 week before the season opens.

Micjones
10-12-2009, 05:48 PM
I can't imagine that would be helpful in terms of trade value.

It's about the same as keeping him on the sidelines dressed...

SAUTO
10-12-2009, 05:51 PM
Yep.

Make a smart football decision that isn't rooted in your own personal bias.

mic honest question: what about keeping him active and not playing speaks to bias? if that was the case wouldnt they deactivate him for the rest of the season?