Jason La Canfora Rumors

[CaliforniaChief]

Just saw on "Around the League" on NFL Network. He's reporting that in addition to Brady Quinn and Shawne Merriman, that Glenn Dorsey could be on the move. He says that the Chiefs coaches are down on him and some teams might be looking to move in for him. Also said that DJ could be had for "the right package." Sorry, no link....just saw it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

So, the coaching staff is down on our best DL thus far, and it's going to take a "package" to ship DJ out?

W.

T.

F?

[The Bad Guy]

Trading Dorsey might be the final straw for me.

[Buck]

Sweet.

[kstater]

I'm guessing this is the famous pull from ass source?

[SAUTO]

I'm guessing this is the famous pull from ass source?

WHAT??? he said it so it HAS to be true, right? i mean if you cant trust a guy who uses "unnamed sources" who can you trust?

[The Bad Guy]

I'm so furious right now. We have no play makers. Yet, we want to be assholes to Bowe, treat Dorsey like he's expendable, but yet we will keep sucking on the cock of Niswanger, D. Williams, Bobby Wade, Larry Johnson, Ron Edwards and any other fringe practice squad player we have on this team.

I hate myself for picking this team as my favorite when I was 8.

[CupidStunt]

Sure, I'd trade Dorsey. For a first from a team that isn't going to make the playoffs. That first would help us more than Dorsey ever will, I suspect. All that hybrid garbage in the offseason was just that. He's never going to fit what they're forcing. Let's say they could get the 15th pick (which they wouldn't, but just for shits and giggles), I'd take that and be done with it. Suck up the loss of value in 10 picks and money already paid to him. Clark doesn't spend on FAs so he can afford it.

Alas ... redundant. He won't be moved.

[the Talking Can]

this place is hilarious

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What a galactically stupid move that would be.

[SAUTO]

I'm so furious right now. We have no play makers. Yet, we want to be assholes to Bowe, treat Dorsey like he's expendable, but yet we will keep sucking on the cock of Niswanger, D. Williams, Bobby Wade, Larry Johnson, Ron Edwards and any other fringe practice squad player we have on this team.

I hate myself for picking this team as my favorite when I was 8.

i feel as though the bowe situation is to make him better, i said in another thread that IMO there's a reason you dont see haley get on LJ, goff, etc, it's because he knows they will be gone soon. he gets on the guys who will/should be here when we are good again

[Hootie]

I hope they trade Dorsey and DJ...all we've heard all along is how Dorsey doesn't really fit into the 3-4...we drafted Magee for a reason...

Shit...give us a 2nd for Dorsey and a 4th for DJ and lets turn this shit around...I mean...come the fuck on...we have $55M invested in our DE's in a 3-4...just get him off of our team while he still has SOME value...

If he has been so terrific so far...since he was once considered such a great talent...shit...maybe we'll sucker a 1st out of him...I'll jack off to tranny porn for a month straight if that happens.

[The Bad Guy]

i feel as though the bowe situation is to make him better, i said in another thread that IMO there's a reason you dont see haley get on LJ, goff, etc, it's because he knows they will be gone soon. he gets on the guys who will/should be here when we are good again

At this rate, this team won't contend until 2020.

[RustShack]

DJ for Merriman straight up.

[pr_capone]

So, the coaching staff is down on our best DL thus far, and it's going to take a "package" to ship DJ out?

W.

T.

F?

At this point the only players the Chiefs have worth keeping are:

Bowe (though I bet he could be had for a price as well)
Castle
Colquitt
Succoup
Flowers
Jackson (if only because its his first season)
Albert (though if the right trade were offered, I bet he would be gone too)

[Mr. Laz]

I'm so furious right now. We have no play makers. Yet, we want to be assholes to Bowe, treat Dorsey like he's expendable, but yet we will keep sucking on the cock of Niswanger, D. Williams, Bobby Wade, Larry Johnson, Ron Edwards and any other fringe practice squad player we have on this team.

I hate myself for picking this team as my favorite when I was 8.
you're mad because some rumor got started?

[SAUTO]

At this rate, this team won't contend until 2020.

ROFL sorry but that made me laugh, i like dorsey but i'm not as high on him as some here. if he doesnt fit then we should get what we can while there is value.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

At this rate, this team won't contend until 2020.

That's about the year I expect Clark will replace Pioli if he doesn't make the playoffs. Think bigger.

[Buck]

Can Dorsey play nose tackle in a 3-4?

[SAUTO]

Can Dorsey play nose tackle in a 3-4?

well he's not doing that hereROFL

[Mr. Laz]

Can Dorsey play nose tackle in a 3-4?
I doubt it ... I have yet to see him be that physical.


He's a 3 or a RDE in a 3-4 (which is kinda the same as a 3)

[CupidStunt]

Shit...give us a 2nd for Dorsey

Now THAT would be unbelievably stupid.

A fifth for Tyler Thigpen and you're shipping Glenn f'ing Dorsey for a second?

Folks around here don't generally have the patience (or understanding, for that matter) to wait for a DT to develop, but most GMs will still know the value of a guy with Dorsey's ability.

Stick him on the Colts and the guy would freaking dominate.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Now THAT would be unbelievably stupid.

A fifth for Tyler Thigpen and you're shipping Glenn f'ing Dorsey for a second?

Folks around here don't generally have the patience (or understanding, for that matter) to wait for a DT to develop, but most GMs will still know the value of a guy with Dorsey's ability.

Stick him on the Colts and the guy would freaking dominate.

Damn, that D-line would be sick.

[Hootie]

well good...call the colts and get a 1st for him...we play a 3-4...we don't need dorsey...so ship him the fuck out before he's worthless.

[bevischief]

I'm guessing this is the famous pull from ass source?

:fart:

[bevischief]

Just saw on "Around the League" on NFL Network. He's reporting that in addition to Brady Quinn and Shawne "roidman" Merriman, that Glenn Dorsey could be on the move. He says that the Chiefs coaches are down on him and some teams might be looking to move in for him. Also said that DJ could be had for "the right package." Sorry, no link....just saw it.

Read it on Chiefsplanet it has to be true.

[RealSNR]

Dorsey is the only player on this team who is showing consistent improvement. Isn't showing consistent improvement a GOOD THING when your team is rebuilding?

I just don't fucking understand this. I mean, I assume this source is fucking bullshit and that it just won't happen. But if it DOES happen, I'm with The Bad Guy. I'm putting away my Chiefs stuff into a closet for about 5-10 years.

[BigMeatballDave]

I hope they trade Dorsey and DJ...all we've heard all along is how Dorsey doesn't really fit into the 3-4...we drafted Magee for a reason...

Shit...give us a 2nd for Dorsey and a 4th for DJ and lets turn this shit around...I mean...come the **** on...we have $55M invested in our DE's in a 3-4...just get him off of our team while he still has SOME value...

If he has been so terrific so far...since he was once considered such a great talent...shit...maybe we'll sucker a 1st out of him...I'll jack off to tranny porn for a month straight if that happens.Die in an AIDS tree forrest fire...

[bevischief]

And now the meltdown begins...

:popcorn:

[Mr. Laz]

Die in an AIDS tree forrest fire...
That's a new one. :)

[CaliforniaChief]

Again, La Canfora just threw it out there. He did quote league sources saying they (Chiefs coaches) were "down on him", but he didn't give anything specific as far as who would want them, except for San Diego...adding the caveat that he doubts they'd trade within the division. I'd believe the DJ rumors, but who knows?

[Hootie]

ok...

That's fine.

We have $32M locked up in one DE, and $25 locked up on the other...in a 3-4...

THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD A WINNER!

Glenn Dorsey could go on to be all-fuckin' pro...but I'd still be happy with a 1st for him since we don't need him (Magee)...might as well get value while you can...

If we're going to start over, we might as well just START over.

[The Bad Guy]

you're mad because some rumor got started?

I don't think I'm mad at the rumor. I think I'm just pissed at this general direction.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I hope they trade Dorsey and DJ...all we've heard all along is how Dorsey doesn't really fit into the 3-4...we drafted Magee for a reason...

Shit...give us a 2nd for Dorsey and a 4th for DJ and lets turn this shit around...I mean...come the fuck on...we have $55M invested in our DE's in a 3-4...just get him off of our team while he still has SOME value...

If he has been so terrific so far...since he was once considered such a great talent...shit...maybe we'll sucker a 1st out of him...I'll jack off to tranny porn for a month straight if that happens.

You're such a fucking dipshit homer that someone could rape you mother with a fence post, and as long as they were wearing one of those reversible KC Starter jackets from the 90's, you'd sit there jerking off, asking them if they needed help counterbalancing the pole.

[Hootie]

well...at least if I had a pet...I would clean up his shit...

[bevischief]

ok...

That's fine.

We have $32M locked up in one DE, and $25 locked up on the other...in a 3-4...

THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD A WINNER!

Glenn Dorsey could go on to be all-****in' pro...but I'd still be happy with a 1st for him since we don't need him (Magee)...might as well get value while you can...

If we're going to start over, we might as well just START over.

We are building around kickers too...

[DeezNutz]

I hope they trade Dorsey and DJ...all we've heard all along is how Dorsey doesn't really fit into the 3-4...we drafted Magee for a reason...

Shit...give us a 2nd for Dorsey and a 4th for DJ and lets turn this shit around...I mean...come the **** on...we have $55M invested in our DE's in a 3-4...just get him off of our team while he still has SOME value...

If he has been so terrific so far...since he was once considered such a great talent...shit...maybe we'll sucker a 1st out of him...I'll jack off to tranny porn for a month straight if that happens.

Trade 'em all, huh?

Stupid fucking drafturbator.

[BigMeatballDave]

You're such a ****ing dipshit homer that someone could rape you mother with a fence post, and as long as they were wearing one of those reversible KC Starter jackets from the 90's, you'd sit there jerking off, asking them if they needed help counterbalancing the pole.ROFL Holy crap that was funny...

[bevischief]

ROFL Holy crap that was funny...

Glad I wasn't the only one...

ROFL

[dirk digler]

I call BS on Dorsey. If they were so down on him he wouldn't be playing as much as he is.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

ok...

That's fine.

We have $32M locked up in one DE, and $25 locked up on the other...in a 3-4...

THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD A WINNER!

Glenn Dorsey could go on to be all-fuckin' pro...but I'd still be happy with a 1st for him since we don't need him (Magee)...might as well get value while you can...

If we're going to start over, we might as well just START over.

Such a duplicitous fucktard.

In one thread, you are laughing at the value of a third round pick.

In this one, you talk about how Dorsey can be replaced by a third round pick.

In this post, you talk about how sinking 57 million into the DL of a 3-4 isn't how you build a winner, while ignoring the fact that the guy who just sank 32 million of that into this line is our current GM, the one who can do no wrong in your eyes, when we can supposedly get the same production from a 3rd round pick.

What a hypocritical load of shit.

[SAUTO]

Such a duplicitous fucktard.

.

that may well be my favorite word that yu throw out there occasionaly

[philfree]

Someone do a poll. Trade Dorsey, good or bad? I mean it sucks to trade away a guy we just drafted but he really doesn't fit the 3-4. He's been showing signs of late but he'll never really fit. So if we could get a 1st rounder for him it wouldn't be good?

PhilFree:arrow:

[DrRyan]

Not buying the Dorsey rumor for a second. As has already been said, he as been the best player on the DL so far this season. Makes no sense to trade Dorsey(who was considered by some to be the #1 player in last years draft) five games into his second season.

DJ? Sure, if we are not going to play him and can get something for him, go ahead and make it happen.

[Halfcan]

yep trade Dorsey after he has his best all around game-figures.

[nychief]

I don't believe these rumors.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't think I'm mad at the rumor. I think I'm just pissed at this general direction.This year sucks, no doubt.

But we traded away Gonzo because he really wanted it.

Everything else is just speculation.

[TheGuardian]

I don't believe for a second that Dorsey is on the blocking. The guy had another outstanding game this week and looks to be rounding into the form that everyone hoped. I think it's just people making shit up to attract attention. Not to mention that Pioli puts a premium on drafting defensive linemen.

[TrebMaxx]

I don't believe these rumors.
Amen brother.

[Mecca]

I find it hilarious to see Magee's name even get mentioned seeing as he's lucky to even see the field at this point, great replacement there.

And all that hybrid talk looks really funny now as this team is forcing a 3-4 as many thought they would.

[Deberg_1990]

Basically anyone that wasnt drafted by Pioli is fair game.

[TheGuardian]

I find it hilarious to see Magee's name even get mentioned seeing as he's lucky to even see the field at this point, great replacement there.

And all that hybrid talk looks really funny now as this team is forcing a 3-4 as many thought they would.

Not really. We're still not running a true 3-4. It's still the hybrid 30 front that the Cards ran last year.

[milkman]

I'm so furious right now. We have no play makers. Yet, we want to be assholes to Bowe, treat Dorsey like he's expendable, but yet we will keep sucking on the cock of Niswanger, D. Williams, Bobby Wade, Larry Johnson, Ron Edwards and any other fringe practice squad player we have on this team.

I hate myself for picking this team as my favorite when I was 8.

I hate you too.

You should have been there to stop me from picking this team when I was 4.

[milkman]

ROFL sorry but that made me laugh, i like dorsey but i'm not as high on him as some here. if he doesnt fit then we should get what we can while there is value.

He really isn't a good fit.

But the guy is really starting to flash, even though he doesn't fit.

That speaks to the talent that made him a top 5 pick, and the player widely considered to be the best player in last year's draft.

[Sure-Oz]

So, the coaching staff is down on our best DL thus far, and it's going to take a "package" to ship DJ out?

W.

T.

F?
Yeah no shit, DJ doesn't give a shit and obviously doesnt care what haley is trying to get out of him. Waste of talent, get whatever you can

[Sure-Oz]

Source:Brady Quinn has put house up for sale in cleveland.

This is on espnnews bottom line

Why can't it be DJ

[milkman]

Source:Brady Quinn has put house up for sale in cleveland.

This is on espnnews bottom line

Why can't it be DJ

Why would DJ have a house in Cleveland?

:D

[OnTheWarpath15]

Why would DJ have a house in Cleveland?

:D

The way Cleveland keeps getting raped in trades, we can only hope he's buying a place there soon.

[Mecca]

It wouldn't surprise me if the coaches weren't happy with him...look who his coaches are.

[Sure-Oz]

Why would DJ have a house in Cleveland?

:D

ROFL

Maybe they'll be dumb enough to give us that 3rd rounder that they got for braylon

[dirk digler]

Does anyone know what the deal with Magee is?

[Red Dawg]

Have you guys seen a 3-4 DT. The size of them alone is not Dorsey. He's not little but he will never demand a double team like a 3-4 DT is suppose to.

[milkman]

The way Cleveland keeps getting raped in trades, we can only hope he's buying a place there soon.

They're getting raped in trades with the jets.

Makes ya wonder if Mangini is still on the Jets payroll.

[Mojo Jojo]

It amazes me that this board is full of posts of how bad Carl was drafting players, and at the same time these same posters believe that DJ, Bowe and Dorsey are the second coming of Bobby Bell, Otis Taylor and Buck Buchanan.

Please people pick a story and stay with it. Either Carl sucked at draft picks or he made good draft picks the last 4 years.

[Brock]

I figured BQ was exactly Mangini's type of player. A self-promoting, dishonest snake.

[milkman]

Have you guys seen a 3-4 DT. The size of them alone is not Dorsey. He's not little but he will never demand a double team like a 3-4 DT is suppose to.

What's that got to do with anything?

Dorsey isn't playing "3-4 DT".

He's playing DE.

[Red Coater]

ROFL

Maybe they'll be dumb enough to give us that 3rd rounder that they got for braylon

To bad we didnt ship him in a package for Braylon. :cuss:

[milkman]

It amazes me that this board is full of posts of how bad Carl was drafting players, and at the same time these same posters believe that DJ, Bowe and Dorsey are the second coming of Bobby Bell, Otis Taylor and Buck Buchanan.

Please people pick a story and stay with it. Either Carl sucked at draft picks or he made good draft picks the last 4 years.

Actually, I think Dorsey, Bowe, Albert and Flowers were outstanding picks, though I would give credit to Herman fucking Edwards and Bill Kuharich.

[BigMeatballDave]

Have you guys seen a 3-4 DT. The size of them alone is not Dorsey. He's not little but he will never demand a double team like a 3-4 DT is suppose to.:spock:

[milkman]

:spock:

Well said.

[Mecca]

Mangini is overvaluing his former Jets scrub players...guess he has his own version of the right 53.

[Red Coater]

Do yall think the chiefs will make a big trade, or is it better to waite till the season is over. Would they get better value now, or when the season is over?

[LaChapelle]

I wouldn't be to quick to hang from Braylon's sack. He might let the NY lifestyle take over his better judgement.

[Sure-Oz]

Winning cures alot of things, ask Randy Moss

[The Franchise]

I'm calling Quinn to the Rams.

[DeezNutz]

Winning cures alot of things, ask Randy Moss

We're still looking for the right anecdote. /Cassel/

[booger]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81364ce6/Around-the-League

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm calling Quinn to the Rams.

Copyright infringement.

Penalty: $5M in gameroom cash.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6125608&postcount=16

Unreal, ain't it?

Quinn has never gotten the opportunity to play more than THREE consecutive games.

THREE.

Impatience doesn't come close to describing the fucktardation that has occured in Cleveland the past 3 years.

If I'm Billy Devaney in STL, I'm calling Cleveland yesterday to find out what they want for Quinn.

[The Bad Guy]

I don't think Brady Quinn ever pans out.

[The Bad Guy]

It amazes me that this board is full of posts of how bad Carl was drafting players, and at the same time these same posters believe that DJ, Bowe and Dorsey are the second coming of Bobby Bell, Otis Taylor and Buck Buchanan.

Please people pick a story and stay with it. Either Carl sucked at draft picks or he made good draft picks the last 4 years.

Please tell me the amount of skill it required to write Glenn Dorsey's name on the card. There was no deep scouting needed. He was basically labeled the best player in last draft.

If Carl didn't take him, he wouldn't have made it out of the parking lot alive that night.

[TheGuardian]

La Roi Glover played nose in a 3-4 at 285 pounds. He was a leverage machine though and had unreal technique.

[el borracho]

It amazes me that this board is full of posts of how bad Carl was drafting players, and at the same time these same posters believe that DJ, Bowe and Dorsey are the second coming of Bobby Bell, Otis Taylor and Buck Buchanan.

Please people pick a story and stay with it. Either Carl sucked at draft picks or he made good draft picks the last 4 years.

Carl was average at the draft. His big problem, IMO, was trading away picks and selecting coaches. Everyone after Marty was a disaster.

[salame]

I'm thinking Quinn to the Rams and Merriman to the Browns

[Mecca]

I'd be surprised if the Chargers trade Merriman but it's pretty well known he won't be with them after this year.

[ChiefsCountry]

It sure seems like Pioli is trying to piss off every single one of Herm's players. Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, Cottam, Morgan. Its like trying to prove a point that isn't there IMO.

[Mecca]

It sure seems like Pioli is trying to piss off every single one of Herm's players. Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, Cottam, Morgan. Its like trying to prove a point that isn't there IMO.

It sure seems like they're trying to emphasize to them that they are pieces of shit.

Oh well it'll be fun being shitty till 2020.

[The Bad Guy]

If we could trade DJ and even a late round pick and get back Merriman that's a big win regardless if Merriman has one leg.

[DeezNutz]

If we could trade DJ and even a late round pick and get back Merriman that's a big win regardless if Merriman has one leg.

I can't imagine SD doing this deal, but this is absolutely the type of risk that a team as bad as the Chiefs needs to make.

Get that motherfucker back on 'roids and go.

This is the same type of philosophy we should have taken to trying to acquire Edwards. Huge upside for, relatively, minor risk.

[Ebolapox]

I hate you too.

You should have been there to stop me from picking this team when I was 4.

I blame my dad on this one. it was his fault when I was five.

[ChiefsCountry]

It sure seems like they're trying to emphasize to them that they are pieces of shit.

Oh well it'll be fun being shitty till 2020.

It reminds me of Vermeil trying to prove he was the reason for St. Louis's offense.

[Mojo Jojo]

Please tell me the amount of skill it required to write Glenn Dorsey's name on the card. There was no deep scouting needed. He was basically labeled the best player in last draft.

If Carl didn't take him, he wouldn't have made it out of the parking lot alive that night.

Why is it when players drop to the Chiefs we get excited? Using your words best player in the draft DROPS to 5th. The Dolphins and Falcons drafted above us didn't draft Dorsey and made the playoffs. DJ drops to 15 and 7 of the 14 teams that drafted before the Chiefs have made the playoffs since 2005.

I guess all those teams knew a lot more than the Chiefs and most posters on this board.

[FRCDFED]

It reminds me of Vermeil trying to prove he was the reason for St. Louis's offense.
Vermeil did a pretty decent job of building an offensive juggernaut despite Trinterceptions first season with us and getting lucky on Holmes turning into a stud. Regardless, the biggest question isn't going to be whether or not Edwards and Peterson drafted the right guys. The question is going to be whether or not Pioli and Haley and retrain these players thought processes on how to play fundamental football. Admit it, our coaches have been pure shit! Whether or not they can reverse those minds before they revolt is going to be the true test. It might taking breaking a few of them up to increase our chances of getting the rest to come around and listen.

[ChiefsCountry]

Why is it when players drop to the Chiefs we get excited? Using your words best player in the draft DROPS to 5th. The Dolphins and Falcons drafted above us didn't draft Dorsey and made the playoffs. DJ drops to 15 and 7 of the 14 teams that drafted before the Chiefs have made the playoffs since 2005.

I guess all those teams knew a lot more than the Chiefs and most posters on this board.

Miami plays a 3-4, St. Louis had to play a round of golf to decide to take Dorsey or not and the Falcons took the most important position on a football field. If Parcells and Miami werent looking for a Carl Peterson type makeover, Dorsey would be in Atlanta right now.

[Jerm]

You're such a ****ing dipshit homer that someone could rape you mother with a fence post, and as long as they were wearing one of those reversible KC Starter jackets from the 90's, you'd sit there jerking off, asking them if they needed help counterbalancing the pole.

Thanks for the sig. ROFL

:toast:

[milkman]

Why is it when players drop to the Chiefs we get excited? Using your words best player in the draft DROPS to 5th. The Dolphins and Falcons drafted above us didn't draft Dorsey and made the playoffs. DJ drops to 15 and 7 of the 14 teams that drafted before the Chiefs have made the playoffs since 2005.

I guess all those teams knew a lot more than the Chiefs and most posters on this board.

Dorsey was widely considered to be the best player in that draft.

That doesn't mean, however that you pass on a franchise QB if they are both sitting there, and comparing the Dolphins situation to the Chiefs situation is fucking moronic.

The Dolphins did exactly the same thing as the 90's Chiefs.

Sign a few veteran free agents, along with an experienced, albeit mediocre QB, play a weak schedule, and Viola! You have a playoff team.

Proceed immediately to your ass kicking in the playoffs.

[AZChief]

I hate myself for picking this team as my favorite when I was 8.


LOL...I've felt like this often over the decades. Hell, I used to pretend the Super Bowl winning Redskin teams were the Chiefs as a kid...

[L.A. Chieffan]

what would happen if we traded our entire team for draft picks and future considerations? can we forefeit the rest of the season in hopes of cashing in next April? what would the downside be? we'd have lots of cap room. no more "the cupboard was bare" arguments because there wouldnt even BE a cupboard. we'll just treat the chiefs like an expansion team from now on. go for it fellas

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It sure seems like Pioli is trying to piss off every single one of Herm's players. Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, Cottam, Morgan. Its like trying to prove a point that isn't there IMO.

And I will offer this name up for the lexicon:

Benito Piolini.

[TrickyNicky]

What about Pee-hole-y?

[Sure-Oz]

Trent Dilfer thinks the raiders should trade for Brady Quinn lol

[DaneMcCloud]

Trent Dilfer thinks the raiders should trade for Brady Quinn lol

The Raiders won't do it because it makes too much sense.

[DumbHillbillies]

Trent Dilfer thinks the raiders should trade for Brady Quinn lol

Yeah, sounds like he genuinely hates russel.

[Mojo Jojo]

Dorsey was widely considered to be the best player in that draft.

That doesn't mean, however that you pass on a franchise QB if they are both sitting there,...

Did you even think about what you wrote...."...best player in that draft." and "That doesn't mean, however that you pass on a franchise QB if they are both sitting there,...."

So using your logic who is the best player in the draft? You admit it is the franchise QB, so Dorsey wasn't the best player in the draft.

That is your argument.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Did you even think about what you wrote...."...best player in that draft." and "That doesn't mean, however that you pass on a franchise QB if they are both sitting there,...."

So using your logic who is the best player in the draft? You admit it is the franchise QB, so Dorsey wasn't the best player in the draft.

That is your argument.

:doh!:

[ChiefsCountry]

Did you even think about what you wrote...."...best player in that draft." and "That doesn't mean, however that you pass on a franchise QB if they are both sitting there,...."

So using your logic who is the best player in the draft? You admit it is the franchise QB, so Dorsey wasn't the best player in the draft.

That is your argument.

Did sauto get another account, bc this is excactly what he does.

[Sure-Oz]

The Raiders won't do it because it makes too much sense.

Would be smart of them, but it's the raiders

they should try to convert russell into something else, i dont know what exactly

[chiefs1111]

Would be smart of them, but it's the raiders

they should try to convert russell into something else, i dont know what exactly

Ball boy

[salame]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but
Brady Quinn reportedly put his Cleveland home up for sale on Tuesday.
The natural assumption is that Quinn expects to be dealt before next week's trade deadline, but NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reported Tuesday night that it's unlikely. Quinn's asking price is also $775,000 for the five-bedroom, five-bath house, which will be very difficult to get in this economy.
Source: ESPN.com

[PhillyChiefFan]

Quinn to the Chiefs for Dorsey, Bowe, DJ, and a $5 foot long.

...you heard it here first.

[the Talking Can]

It sure seems like Pioli is trying to piss off every single one of Herm's players. Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, Cottam, Morgan. Its like trying to prove a point that isn't there IMO.

what has he done to "try and piss off" each of those players?

[chief husker]

I'm still a Dorsey fan. He is making plays and getting penetration into the backfield. Now if we could get that pussy Brown to tackle. If we are going to stick with the multiple fronts and not play a true 3-4, then I would keep him.

[SAUTO]

what has he done to "try and piss off" each of those players?

he's just talking out his ass again, one of the biggest douchebags on the board

[TEX]

I'm still a Dorsey fan. He is making plays and getting penetration into the backfield. Now if we could get that pussy Brown to tackle. If we are going to stick with the multiple fronts and not play a true 3-4, then I would keep him.

We do that mostly because we don't have the proper players for a 3 - 4. I know teams mix it up from time to time as part of thier overall scheme, but the Chiefs do it mostly for other reasons.

[CHIEFS58]

la canfora can go la fuck himself.

[CaliforniaChief]

Found this on Josh Looney's Insider blog at kcchiefs.com:


DORSEY TRADE BAIT?
October 14th – 9:20 AM

Glenn Dorsey is once again in the spotlight for Kansas City. Earlier this week, NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora announced that the Chiefs brass are “down” on Dorsey and that a trade involving the fifth overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft may be in the works.

Here is an exerpt from La Confora’s blog on NFL.com.

“I’m also told by numerous league sources that the coaching staff in Kansas City isn’t high on NT Glenn Dorsey, a former first-round draft pick. There’s always a demand for nose tackles in this league, and the salary-cap ramifications wouldn’t be a deterrent in dealing for Dorsey.“

First, let me go on record by saying that La Canfora can generally be counted on for providing accurate information involving all 32 teams. In short, he is a respected reporter when it comes to the NFL. I don’t doubt that La Canfora hasn’t heard a bird chirp in his ear about the potential destinations of various Chiefs as we near the trade deadline on October 20th. But his information about the coaching staff in Kansas City being “down” on Dorsey may be a bit outdated. Also, Dorsey plays defensive end.

Dorsey began training camp out of shape and, as Dorsey himself admitted, didn’t pass the club’s conditioning test. He was officially in “the doghouse” so to speak. That was back in late July. Since then, however, Dorsey has paid his dues, worked his way back into shape and appears to be the cornerstone of the Chiefs defensive line at this point in the season.

The second-year player has been quietly turning in solid performance after solid performance. He’s continually one of the first players coming off the line of scrimmage on the snap and has been getting plenty of push from his end post. Dorsey possibly turned in the best performance of his young career vs. Oakland and has built off of that performance each week.

The results of Dorsey’s labor has seen the defensive end play in nearly every defensive snap this season. Dorsey has turned in 275 total defensive snaps this season. That is an average of 55 plays per game and hardly a sign of someone either out of shape or in the dog house. In fact, Dorsey’s 275 snaps lead all Chiefs defensive linemen this season. DE Tyson Jackson has seen the second-most action by appearing in 194 total plays (38.8 avg.).

While moving any player (besides QB Matt Cassel and Jackson) before the deadline isn’t out of the question, moving Dorsey would need to make a lot of sense for Kansas City. If Dorsey were to move on, DE Wallace Gilberry and DE Alex Magee would likely be thrust into the spotlight. Both players have seen limited action to date this season. The scenario of Dorsey packing his bags seems unlikely, and packing his bags for San Diego (which La Canfora offered as a destination in a television interview) seems downright inconceivable. Who knows though, crazier things have happened at the deadline.

Just ask yourself this. What would it take to trade the “can’t miss” defensive lineman on every teams board just 21 games into his career? Is there even a deal out there that begins to make sense for KC? We’ll only know for certain when October 21st comes around.

[58kcfan89]

LaCaforna said something about Dorsey being a Nose Tackle. Idiot. I have no problem trading DJ, but Dorsey has been the surprise of the season thus far and is turning into one of our best defensive players. No point in trading him unless you get a ridiculous package for him (and you won't).

[The Franchise]

No to Dorsey.....yes to DJ.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Trading DJ will reduce the Chiefs cap number.... maybe unlikely given that they are well below the salary floor.

Trading Dorsey would increase their cap number. Probably still unlikely, but would put them at the salary floor without spending another dime.

Just a thought.

[Sure-Oz]

trade that worthless pos dj

[TheGuardian]

I don't think the chiefs are going to be trading players to get close to the caps floor.

Derrick Johnson is in the doghouse, Dorsey is not and outside of Flowers has been our best defensive player so far this season (oh wait he's a bust right! heh). Everything this guy is writing appears to be complete bunk based off of things said or done months ago.

[Mr. Laz]

Trading DJ will reduce the Chiefs cap number.... maybe unlikely given that they are well below the salary floor.

Trading Dorsey would increase their cap number. Probably still unlikely, but would put them at the salary floor without spending another dime.

Just a thought.
A thought you posted 3/4 times including started a thread about it.

The Chiefs will not trade Dorsey for some kind of salary cap trick ... period.


If they trade him it will because they don't think he will ever fit in their 3-4 scheme. So far it looks like Dorsey is doing fairly well in this scheme so i think this rumor is just a bunch of cow dung.

[Micjones]

Maybe they're trying to light a fire under Dorsey?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Maybe they're trying to light a fire under Dorsey?

Why?

He's about the only player that's showing improvement week to week.

IMO, trying to "light a fire" under the few players that are improving is asking for trouble.

It's not worth him losing the confidence he's built, just to try to squeeze a fraction more from him, when there are 50 other players that aren't getting the job done.

[milkman]

cow dung.

You could have just posted this.

It describes nearly every post of "Sensible"Chieffan.

[Sure-Oz]

Why?

He's about the only player that's showing improvement week to week.

IMO, trying to "light a fire" under the few players that are improving is asking for trouble.

It's not worth him losing the confidence he's built, just to try to squeeze a fraction more from him, when there are 50 other players that aren't getting the job done.

Agreed...this better be some bs speculation...it's actually nice to see him improve and show some promise

[SenselessChiefsFan]

A thought you posted 3/4 times including started a thread about it.

The Chiefs will not trade Dorsey for some kind of salary cap trick ... period.


If they trade him it will because they don't think he will ever fit in their 3-4 scheme. So far it looks like Dorsey is doing fairly well in this scheme so i think this rumor is just a bunch of cow dung.

I agree that the trade would not be only because of the salary floor.

However, there is NO way this team is better without Dorsey. And, he isn't riding the bench, he isn't in the doghouse. And, it appears that he has been, far and away, the Chiefs best defensive lineman.

So, with all that said..... IF the Chiefs trade him... then, this has to figure in.

Otherwise, wait and trade him after the season. You are clearly better with him for the immediate future.

[Christofire]

Haley had too many good things to say about Dorsey in his press conf. for me to think he will be traded.

Q: Glenn Dorsey, where is he right now and what kind of path is he taking?

HALEY: “Glenn is a guy that it’s pretty well documented came into the off-season program extremely out of shape, probably so poor that his body and his frame just wasn’t able to handle that weight and allow him to do the things to necessarily get in shape.

“It’s been a long road and Glenn has got himself in condition now. He’s at the weight we assigned to him which probably looked like an impossibility back in the spring. I think that’s starting to pay dividends for him. His overall stamina is much better where he can play like that motor I’ve been talking about in Tamba. Those defensive linemen and linebackers have to be in better condition than everybody else so they can play at that high level of intensity every single snap.

“Even early on in the season, you could see Glenn fight to get to that weight. He wasn’t really there yet so there was some up and down play. It might be one play on and one play off. We can’t have that. But two out of the last three weeks he’s been more like what you’d envision him being. I think this week is critical for him to build on last week which was probably his best game over all.”

Q: What encourages you to think that he can be a solid defensive end?

HALEY: “Some of those things I just talked about: attitude and trying to show he wants to be a part of this. That’s number one. Like I’ve said, we’re looking for players that are the right kind of guys and we didn’t know any of these guys. But now we’ve spent a significant amount of time with them. I think that’s what we’re in the process of doing: finding those guys who truly want to be a part of something special here. Glenn, to me, has bought in with how he’s worked and fought to get to where he needs to be. The guy obviously has skill to play in the NFL or he wouldn’t have been taken where he was taken. I think that skill is starting to show itself now.”

Q: What is his potential?

HALEY: “He can be a very disruptive player up front. He’s got very good quickness and explosion where he needs to be and he can play with the intensity he needs to play with. That’s the biggest thing. He’s very strong. He’s not necessarily the dimensions when you think of defensive linemen, particularly the technique he’s playing.”

[HemiEd]

Someone do a poll. Trade Dorsey, good or bad? I mean it sucks to trade away a guy we just drafted but he really doesn't fit the 3-4. He's been showing signs of late but he'll never really fit. So if we could get a 1st rounder for him it wouldn't be good?

PhilFree:arrow:

No, I am sick them trading the talented players. Just fucking no, he is getting better and it takes time. Fucking impatient bastards, stick with something, anything, long enough for it to work.

[philfree]

No, I am sick them trading the talented players. Just ****ing no, he is getting better and it takes time. ****ing impatient bastards, stick with something, anything, long enough for it to work.

I was just trying to get a read on what poeple really think about it.

PhilFree:arrow:

[FloridaMan88]

Glenn Dorsey and Sherron Collins must dine out together a lot during the offseason

[HemiEd]

I was just trying to get a read on what poeple really think about it.

PhilFree:arrow:

Sorry Phil, my angst was not necessarily directed at you. All we hear about is lose, lose, lose for higher picks.

Then we get them, get the best player in the draft, and people want to trade him for a lower pick, after he didn't make the pro bowl his first year.

Oh and I am still mad as hell they let Jared Allen get away. Impact players for the Chiefs are rare, they need to keep them when they luckily find one.

[BoltsWinAgain]

my word you ppl are as stupid as you look!!

[philfree]

Sorry Phil, my angst was not necessarily directed at you. All we hear about is lose, lose, lose for higher picks.

Then we get them, get the best player in the draft, and people want to trade him for a lower pick, after he didn't make the pro bowl his first year.

Oh and I am still mad as hell they let Jared Allen get away. Impact players for the Chiefs are rare, they need to keep them when they luckily find one.

You were dead on with you feelings and didn't even (like alot of others) call someone a name. Yeah! It's all good man.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mr. Laz]

2008

Sedrick Ellis (13 games)
30 Tackles (20 solo)
4 sacks
5 passes defensed
0 FF

Dorsey (16 games)
46 tackles (32 solo)
1 sack
1 passes defensed
1 FF
---------------------------------
2009

Dorsey (5 games)
15 tackles (12 solo)
1 passes defensed

Ellis
11 tackles (8 solo)
1 sack
1 passes defensed

[RJ]

Sorry Phil, my angst was not necessarily directed at you. All we hear about is lose, lose, lose for higher picks.

Then we get them, get the best player in the draft, and people want to trade him for a lower pick, after he didn't make the pro bowl his first year.

Oh and I am still mad as hell they let Jared Allen get away. Impact players for the Chiefs are rare, they need to keep them when they luckily find one.



What Ed said.

Seriously, I hope this stuff is all BS. If a player like Dorsey gets traded in his 2nd season, I will take the "Egoli" stuff seriously.

[ChiefsCountry]

2008

Sedrick Ellis (13 games)
30 Tackles (20 solo)
4 sacks
5 passes defensed
0 FF

Dorsey (16 games)
46 tackles (32 solo)
1 sack
1 passes defensed
1 FF
---------------------------------
2009

Dorsey (5 games)
15 tackles (12 solo)
1 passes defensed

Ellis
11 tackles (8 solo)
1 sack
1 passes defensed

Ellis is probably a better fit in the 3-4.

[RustShack]

Ellis is probably a better fit in the 3-4.

I remember coming out everyone was saying Ellis could play NT in the 3-4 also, and that Dorsey was just a UT.

[BossChief]

If Merriman is truly available, we would be wise to invest a pick in a trade for him...but only if he would be willing to negotiate a contract that could be voided for certain reasons.

I could get on board for a second.

When on top of his game he is one of the most dominant defensive players in some time.

We need a "nasty muthafucka" like him.

This team with Hali coming off one edge and Merriman off the other could get this secondary some poorly thrown balls to feast on.

hold on, that didnt sound right....

[KCChiefsMan]

Patrick Willis for Dorsey straight up

[BigRock]

If you didn't seen it, a different reporter on NFLN completely backtracked on the Dorsey stuff this afternoon. They're high on him, really happy with how he's gotten into shape and stepped up his game, hopeful he can play a role on the defense like someone whose name I didn't catch (probably Dockett), and it would take a major offer to move him.

It was actually rather impressive how they shot down these silly "rumors" without acknowledging it was one of their own guys who started it.

[Sure-Oz]

I hope they trade DJ