Let's make it a poll really quick. Chiefs' 1st rounder.

[Direckshun]

Pick from the following.

Poll to follow.

[Dayze]

Berry for me; assuming he's there whenever we pick; or trade down and get him etc.

[Mr. Laz]

i want Fax to be a Chief

[DeezNutz]

The Donkey fan wants us to take Cody.

Evidence A.

[Demonpenz]

FIX THE O LINE

[Hammock Parties]

Mays.

Lack of speed and range on the back end is killing the team as much as any other area.

[Brock]

Good Christ, I meant to vote for Berry.

[DJ's left nut]

Dez Bryant, WR - Oklahoma St.

[Chiefnj2]

Berry.

IMHO, right now I only see 2 players worthy of a top 5 selection - Berry and Suh.

[Direckshun]

Berry.

IMHO, right now I only see 2 players worthy of a top 5 selection - Berry and Suh.

Seems about right to me.

I'd add Gerald McCoy, though.

[Direckshun]

Not even freakin' close in this forum right now.

Safeties by a mile.

[Reerun_KC]

FIX THE O LINE

You want us to draft your mom?

[Reerun_KC]

Berry.

IMHO, right now I only see 2 players worthy of a top 5 selection - Berry and Mayes.

Agree, Berry or Mayes...

[SDChiefs]

Gotta go with FAX at NT. He will be the disruptive force in the middle that we have so desperately been missing.

[SDChiefs]

If not FAX, then Mays.

[keg in kc]

Sam Bradford.

Because the meltdown on the board would be epic.

[Reerun_KC]

Sam Bradford.

Because the meltdown on the board would be epic.

ROFL

You think?

The damn server would just shut down....

[KCDC]

Take the safety if you can't trade out of it and take OL with both 2nd round picks.

[L.A. Chieffan]

poll fail, no tebow

[HotRoute]

berry/mays cant give cassel any extra time in the pocket ? ? we have a decent defense/special teams right now. what has been keeping this team down is the offense's lack of production and time of possesion . the offense has to be able to sustain drives, and it will make this entire team better.

to do this we definately need a better run game, starting with our linemen and backs. they have to perform better or we need to replace them, specifically niswanger/goff/albert not to mention LJ, i honestly think if k.smith can pass block better and j.charles can run routes better then we could trade LJ and his "ego" for a draft pick.

k.smith + j.charles > L.johnson

[Munson]

Right now, I'd like them to draft Dez Bryant. But I wouldn't be disappointed with Berry or Mays.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Dez Bryant, WR - Oklahoma St.

This.

[Coogs]

Top 5...

Berry was my pick, but Suh and Mays would be in the discussion as well. Everyone else listed here would be outside the top 5 IMO.

O-line can be upgraded big time in rounds 2 through 5 now with three 5th round picks belonging to us. That is just in case no one has mentioned you can get O-linemen after the first round before. :)

[Reerun_KC]

berry/mays cant give cassel any extra time in the pocket ? ? we have a decent defense/special teams right now. what has been keeping this team down is the offense's lack of production and time of possesion . the offense has to be able to sustain drives, and it will make this entire team better.

to do this we definately need a better run game, starting with our linemen and backs. they have to perform better or we need to replace them, specifically niswanger/goff/albert not to mention LJ, i honestly think if k.smith can pass block better and j.charles can run routes better then we could trade LJ and his "ego" for a draft pick.

k.smith + j.charles > L.johnson


No offense, but you need a big time playmaker out of round 1... then you can load up on OL with your 2-5 round picks... Most NFL lines are buillt in round 2-5...

[DumbHillbillies]

Mays but would be happy with Dez Bryant also.

[DJ's left nut]

No offense, but you need a big time playmaker out of round 1... then you can load up on OL with your 2-5 round picks... Most NFL lines are buillt in round 2-5...

Exactly, you need to snag difference makers with picks that high.

Y'know, true impact players like Tyson Jack....!@#$%

:deevee:

[keg in kc]

ROFL

You think?

The damn server would just shut down....Server almost needed a reboot now, just thinking about it.

It would be utter classic. Come on haoli, make it happen.

[The Franchise]

Why the hell would we draft Suh? He's a 3-4 DE in our system. We already have Jackson and Dorsey.

[Coogs]

Why the hell would we draft Suh? He's a 3-4 DE in our system. We already have Jackson and Dorsey.

Fire the DC and change the system. :shrug:

[The Franchise]

Fire the DC and change the system. :shrug:

Awesome.....so let's invest ANOTHER 1st round draft pick on this defensive line. Because Dorsey and Jackson (and their HUGE fucking contracts) just aren't enough for us.

Nevermind that our safeties and linebackers suck complete balls.

[Reerun_KC]

Server almost needed a reboot now, just thinking about it.

It would be utter classic. Come on haoli, make it happen.

lets not waste that draft pick... We need help and need it badly...

[Coogs]

Awesome.....so let's invest ANOTHER 1st round draft pick on this defensive line. Because Dorsey and Jackson (and their HUGE fucking contracts) just aren't enough for us.

Nevermind that our safeties and linebackers suck complete balls.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I would much prefer Suh with a top 5 pick and go with a D-line of Jackson, Suh, Dorsey, and McGee over drafting Cody in the top 5 and staying with the 3-4.

And FWIW, I think Cody is going to be the pick, and we are all spinning our wheels hoping for Berry or Mays.

[keg in kc]

lets not waste that draft pick... We need help and need it badly......and then we trade him to someone else for a slightly lower first, a second and a 2011 first.

(Hey, it's as likely as us drafting Bradford to start with...)

[HotRoute]

No offense, but you need a big time playmaker out of round 1... then you can load up on OL with your 2-5 round picks... Most NFL lines are buillt in round 2-5...

well this is a good thing considering we have about 7 picks between round 2 and round 5, unless we gave a 5th rounder for allman/ndukwe, which i hope we didnt. my guess is we gave them our 6th rounder which would have still been generous, but the thigpen trade makes me think we gave them the 5th for those linemen and they gave it back for thigpen, either way we have a decent draft lined up for next year, and if we dont get difference makers with all of our early picks we might be screwed . . .

here's our draft status, in case you were wondering :

1st round
2nd round
2nd round (from ATL)
3rd round
4th round
5th round
5th round (from CAR)
5th round (from MIA)
6th round

[keg in kc]

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I would much prefer Suh with a top 5 pick and go with a D-line of Jackson, Suh, Dorsey, and McGee over drafting Cody in the top 5 and staying with the 3-4.

And FWIW, I think Cody is going to be the pick, and we are all spinning our wheels hoping for Berry or Mays.I think you're dreaming when it comes to going back to the 4-3, when the GM and the head coach have both professed their love for the 3-4.

[The Franchise]

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I would much prefer Suh with a top 5 pick and go with a D-line of Jackson, Suh, Dorsey, and McGee over drafting Cody in the top 5 and staying with the 3-4.

And FWIW, I think Cody is going to be the pick, and we are all spinning our wheels hoping for Berry or Mays.

Except now you have a problem. Where is your true pass rushing DE? Jackson and Magee aren't. Plus I would consider Suh and Dorsey to be the same type of DT.

[The Franchise]

well this is a good thing considering we have about 7 picks between round 2 and round 5, unless we gave a 5th rounder for allman/ndukwe, which i hope we didnt. my guess is we gave them our 6th rounder which would have still been generous, but the thigpen trade makes me think we gave them the 5th for those linemen and they gave it back for thigpen, either way we have a decent draft lined up for next year, and if we dont get difference makers with all of our early picks we might be screwed . . .

here's our draft status, in case you were wondering :

1st round
2nd round
2nd round (from ATL)
3rd round
4th round
5th round
5th round (from CAR)
5th round (from MIA)
6th round

I'm pretty sure we gave up a 6th for Allenman/Ndukwe....and we don't have our 7th because we traded it for Jake O'Connell.

So it should look like this.

1st round
2nd round
2nd round (from ATL)
3rd round
4th round
5th round
5th round (from CAR)
5th round (from MIA)

[Coogs]

Except now you have a problem. Where is your true pass rushing DE? Jackson and Magee aren't. Plus I would consider Suh and Dorsey to be the same type of DT.

This is for another thread. I just think Suh is a top 5 talent along with Berry (who I voted for) and Mays. Nobody else worth a top five IMO.

[tyler360]

We need safety help bad so I am going with mays but would be fine with berry

[HotRoute]

so the real question is who do we take with our first four picks??

1st round = OL/DL (best available)
2nd round = WR
2nd round = OL
3rd round = OL

if ya didnt know our o-line is just absolutly terrible, so we need to draft the best o-lineman we can because we'll need all the help we can get in the trenches, thats where the games are won and lost

[The Franchise]

This is for another thread. I just think Suh is a top 5 talent along with Berry (who I voted for) and Mays. Nobody else worth a top five IMO.

Oh don't get me wrong....I believe that Suh is definitely a Top 10 draft pick. He's just a Top 10 talent that we don't need or have room for on this team.

[Mr. Laz]

Sam Bradford.

Because the meltdown on the board would be epic.
because a meltdown is just so much more important than the chiefs not sucking.

[Coogs]

Oh don't get me wrong....I believe that Suh is definitely a Top 10 draft pick. He's just a Top 10 talent that we don't need or have room for on this team.

Cody is going to be the pick anyway. You can see this one comming from a mile away. And you still have more money being thrust into the D-line. :)

[The Franchise]

so the real question is who do we take with our first four picks??

1st round = OL/DL (best available)
2nd round = WR
2nd round = OL
3rd round = OL

if ya didnt know our o-line is just absolutly terrible, so we need to draft the best o-lineman we can because we'll need all the help we can get in the trenches, thats where the games are won and lost

Because it's been proven by multiple teams that only the great offensive lines are drafted in the 1st rounds.

FFS......we need playmakers on this team.

A playmaking safety (Berry), a TRUE pass-rushing OLB (Sapp) and a WR that is a burner (Gilyard) would help this team out immensly.

We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. We can easily draft 1 offensive lineman in those 4 picks...and it would help.

[Chiefnj2]

Oh don't get me wrong....I believe that Suh is definitely a Top 10 draft pick. He's just a Top 10 talent that we don't need or have room for on this team.

What if KC could deal Dorsey for a 2nd? They might consider Suh in that case.

[The Franchise]

Cody is going to be the pick anyway. You can see this one comming from a mile away. And you still have more money being thrust into the D-line. :)

If they pick Cody.....I'm gonna flip.

[HotRoute]

I'm pretty sure we gave up a 6th for Allenman/Ndukwe....and we don't have our 7th because we traded it for Jake O'Connell.

So it should look like this.

1st round
2nd round
2nd round (from ATL)
3rd round
4th round
5th round
5th round (from CAR)
5th round (from MIA)

the allman/ndukwe pick is still listed as undisclosed so we wont know which one we gave up until the draft, but lets hope we didnt give a 5th for them neither has helped our o-line much, and yes we did give a pick for o'connell who also hasnt contributed at all.

[The Franchise]

What if KC could deal Dorsey for a 2nd? They might consider Suh in that case.

That would be monumentally stupid.

[KCDC]

Awesome.....so let's invest ANOTHER 1st round draft pick on this defensive line. Because Dorsey and Jackson (and their HUGE ****ing contracts) just aren't enough for us.

Nevermind that our safeties and linebackers suck complete balls.

This

[Coogs]

If they pick Cody.....I'm gonna flip.

I think that is how the first round picks for the Chiefs are selected. Find the one player that will totally tick off the ChiefsPlanet... and they have their guy.

The majority of the Planet already wants Berry or Mays, and it is still October. Means it will never happen. :shrug:

[keg in kc]

because a meltdown is just so much more important than the chiefs not sucking.http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6199298&postcount=33

I can have my meltdown and a good pick, damnit. It's my fantasy.

[KCDC]

well this is a good thing considering we have about 7 picks between round 2 and round 5, unless we gave a 5th rounder for allman/ndukwe, which i hope we didnt. my guess is we gave them our 6th rounder which would have still been generous, but the thigpen trade makes me think we gave them the 5th for those linemen and they gave it back for thigpen, either way we have a decent draft lined up for next year, and if we dont get difference makers with all of our early picks we might be screwed . . .

here's our draft status, in case you were wondering :

1st round
2nd round
2nd round (from ATL)
3rd round
4th round
5th round
5th round (from CAR)
5th round (from MIA)
6th round

We should have gotten a 6th from Gunther for Turk McBride and a 7th for Pollard. Instead, we let them go for nothing and now they are starters in Detroit and Houston.

[HotRoute]

i love these kinds of threads

theres no way we pick berry/ mays for one reason now, thats what the fans seem to want. they never pick who the fans want, lol

[Rain Man]

I know nothing about these players, but assuming they're all elite talents, I take the offensive tackle, though in thinking about it maybe I'd change my mind to the wide receiver.

If we draft high enough and there's some universally acclaimed franchise player available, though, I'd be fine with that. Like when Dorsey fell to us.

The Cassel trade is a true franchise changer. Without that, we may have had Sanchez last year, or possibly the top QB this year. I hope Cassel pans out, but it makes my stomach hurt a little bit to think about (possibly) two top-five picks without picking a franchise quarterback, especially given the Chiefs' history at quarterback.

[HotRoute]

We should have gotten a 6th from Gunther for Turk McBride and a 7th for Pollard. Instead, we let them go for nothing and now they are starters in Detroit and Houston.

true, true but we cant get what they arent offering. that would have been ideal but noone wanted to offer anything for them so we let them walk, have a feeling it had to do with attitude more than anything with those 2 guys

[DaWolf]

i love these kinds of threads

theres no way we pick berry/ mays for one reason now, thats what the fans seem to want. they never pick who the fans want, lol

Well they took Derrick Johnson and everyone rejoiced.

That worked out real well...

[HotRoute]

Well they took Derrick Johnson and everyone rejoiced.

That worked out real well...

further proof that haley/pioli should do exactly as the chiefsplanet says or else . . . .


:D

[HemiEd]

so the real question is who do we take with our first four picks??

1st round = OL/DL (best available)
2nd round = WR
2nd round = OL
3rd round = OL

if ya didnt know our o-line is just absolutly terrible, so we need to draft the best o-lineman we can because we'll need all the help we can get in the trenches, thats where the games are won and lost

this isn't going to go well for you.

[KCChiefsMan]

I'd be really happy with Berry or Mays, I'd be meh with a WR or OT, I'd be pissed with a DT.

[HemiEd]

I think that is how the first round picks for the Chiefs are selected. Find the one player that will totally tick off the ChiefsPlanet... and they have their guy.

The majority of the Planet already wants Berry or Mays, and it is still October. Means it will never happen. :shrug:

Don't forget the DJ pick, this place got sticky after that, from the almost unanimous ejaculation.

[Mr. Laz]

What if KC could deal Dorsey for a 2nd?
die in a fire




with love, of course :)

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Mays. All fuckin day.

[Mr. Laz]

Mays. All ****in day.
as long as they are from USC, i'm good.

[Chiefnj2]

Mays. All ****in day.

Not until he learns how to tackle properly.

[Rausch]

I can't wait to draft another safety. I just can't get enough.

Can't sign them, trade for them, or draft one worth a ****...

[HotRoute]

this isn't going to go well for you.

how do you figure, we have to get some o-linemen that are worth a damn, or else we will continue to suck. i dont care about all the other good players out there at the end of the draft we only pick 8-9 players and the rest is irrelivant. it doesnt matter who we coulda got or who we shoulda got, its who we get that needs to concern us

[Dayze]

I can't wait to draft another safety. I just can't get enough.

Can't sign them, trade for them, or draft one worth a ****...

to be fair, we can't draft any position well. :D

[BigChiefFan]

Dez Bryant all the way.

[The Franchise]

how do you figure, we have to get some o-linemen that are worth a damn, or else we will continue to suck. i dont care about all the other good players out there at the end of the draft we only pick 8-9 players and the rest is irrelivant. it doesnt matter who we coulda got or who we shoulda got, its who we get that needs to concern us

Because if we draft all offensive linemen....it's a guarantee this offense will be #1 and we're winning the Superbowl. Nevermind that our WRs suck, our RBs suck....and our defense isn't anything to write home about.

[Rain Man]

Because if we draft all offensive linemen....it's a guarantee this offense will be #1 and we're winning the Superbowl. Nevermind that our WRs suck, our RBs suck....and our defense isn't anything to write home about.

Hence my idea to draft lots of linemen, wide receivers, defensive players, AND running backs.

[GoHuge]

as long as they are from USC, i'm good.I second, but emphatically say f**k no to anymore 1st round LSU players. Fat, lazy, crawfish eating, over rated, waste of f**king money, goofballs. I like them as people though :D!

Sign me up for Mays. I just think he can do more and be used in alot of different ways. Not only will QB's have the guy one their mind when they throw the ball down the field or over the middle (not to mention recievers), but will be shiting their pants with Taylor Mays running at them with a 12 yard head of steam!

[CoMoChief]

**** it Ill just declare.....put my ass at ROLB.......ill ****ing sack some QB's.

Theyll ask me what my credentials are.....ill just whip out my cock and as it un-ravels onto the floor, and jaws drop, they label me as a first rd talent.

[orange]

The Donkey fan wants us to take Cody.

Evidence A.
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January 25, 2009:
Summary - Planeteers who hate Teicher for calling for a DL with that #3 pick may be jumping off the Pioli bandwagon very soon.

:hmmm:

[GoHuge]

**** it Ill just declare.....put my ass at ROLB.......ill ****ing sack some QB's.

Theyll ask me what my credentials are.....ill just whip out my cock and as it un-ravels onto the floor, and jaws drop, they label me as a first rd talent.:lame:

But when your going for epic FAIL you might as well swing for the fences..........you really got a hold of that one!

[Tribal Warfare]

People talk about positional value all the time on the BB, IMO the only scheme that truly dictates PV is the 3-4 because it's so position specific so it can work. It could or it will definitely be reach but KC will probably select a NT in the 1st round

[DeezNutz]

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January 25, 2009:


:hmmm:

I don't doubt it.

But we're talking about what we *should* do, not what Pioli will do.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Not until he learns how to tackle properly.

He'll be fine in the pros.

[Rausch]

Because if we draft all offensive linemen....it's a guarantee this offense will be #1 and we're winning the Superbowl. Nevermind that our WRs suck, our RBs suck....and our defense isn't anything to write home about.

We don't have to draft all offensive lineman. We've got a young LT, let's not give up on him in year 2. We also have a G in place. If we sign one guy and draft a guy we've got 4/5ths of a line. And by sign a guy I don't mean we trade for the Pats 6th round pick from a few years back. Spend the fucking money to get the best FA G/T/C we can land. Yeah, that might mean we overpay for one position to make sure Cassel isn't in a body cast.

Who gives a $3it? We're 11ty billion under the cap anyway!

I think LB is our biggest need on Defense right now and I'd take the BAA at WR/OL/LB the first three rounds. Whatever order that may be when we pick...

[Brock]

Yeah, Taylor Mays doesn't know how to tackle. :rolleyes:

[Rausch]

People talk about positional value all the time on the BB, IMO the only scheme that truly dictates PV is the 3-4 because it's so position specific so it can work. It could or it will definitely be reach but KC will probably select a NT in the 1st round

Outside of P/K I'd trade a 1st round pick for any young player who's top 5 at his position...

[DJ's left nut]

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January 25, 2009:


:hmmm:

In fairness, most of those folks just bent over backwards to justify it while continuing to slob Pioli's knob.

And by "most of those folks" I mean Half-can.

[DeezNutz]

We don't have to draft all offensive lineman. We've got a young LT, let's not give up on him in year 2. We also have a G in place. If we sign one guy and draft a guy we've got 4/5ths of a line. And by sign a guy I don't mean we trade for the Pats 6th round pick from a few years back. Spend the ****ing money to get the best FA G/T/C we can land. Yeah, that might mean we overpay for one position to make sure Cassel isn't in a body cast.

Who gives a $3it? We're 11ty billion under the cap anyway!

I think LB is our biggest need on Defense right now and I'd take the BAA at WR/OL/LB the first three rounds. Whatever order that may be when we pick...

You know this team is complete shit when one can make a compelling argument for why several areas are the single worst on the team.

That said, I believe our safeties are the weakest link on the defense. And we don't need to use our first on the OL, since we have a LT.

[Rausch]

Yeah, Taylor Mays doesn't know how to tackle. :rolleyes:

Somehow they all manage to forget how once they start for us...:grr:

[CoMoChief]

:lame:

But when your going for epic FAIL you might as well swing for the fences..........you really got a hold of that one!

Hey now.....I lead my team in foul tips!!!

[Rausch]

You know this team is complete shit when one can make a compelling argument for why several areas are the single worst on the team.

True.

That said, I believe our safeties are the weakest link on the defense.

Eh, I think they're good enough. No probowls, but good enough.

And we don't need to use our first on the OL, since we have a LT.

We don't have to go OL in the first. I have no problem going WR there, if the talent is there. I'd prefer a trade down with all the needs we have.

We have 1 real starter an no depth at WR and the OL...

[Brock]

Eh, I think they're good enough. No probowls, but good enough....

There really isn't anybody on this defense that's "good enough".

[DeezNutz]

There really isn't anybody on this defense that's "good enough".

Hali is a cornerstone.

[Coogs]

i love these kinds of threads

theres no way we pick berry/ mays for one reason now, thats what the fans seem to want. they never pick who the fans want, lol

:D