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Mr. Laz
12-03-2009, 06:27 PM
ESPN

i didn't see it anywhere

Source: Mangino out at Kansas
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389

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<!-- end mod-article-title --> <!-- begin story body --> Mark Mangino will not return as Kansas football coach, a source close to the situation told Joe Schad of ESPN Thursday night.
The team is scheduled to be told at a meeting Thursday evening.
Athletic director Lew Perkins launched an investigation into Mangino's treatment of players three weeks ago. The Jayhawks won the first five games of the season before going on a seven-game losing streak. Mangino was 50-48 in eight years -- two wins shy of the school record for a coach.
After going 12-1 in 2007 and winning the Orange Bowl, Mangino was given a raise and a contract extension through 2012.

OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2009, 06:28 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=219266

ESPN saying he's out as coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389

Source: Mangino out at Kansas
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Mark Mangino will not return as Kansas football coach, a source close to the situation told Joe Schad of ESPN Thursday night.

The team is scheduled to be told at a meeting tonight.

Your thread will and should get more attention however, since your title wasn't cryptic and cuts to the chase.

Mr. Laz
12-03-2009, 06:30 PM
LMAO

what kind of retarded thread title is that ... how is anyone going to know what the hell it's about?

doomy3
12-03-2009, 06:31 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=219266



Your thread will and should get more attention however, since your title wasn't cryptic and cuts to the chase.

LMAO

what kind of retarded thread title is that ... how is anyone going to know what the hell it's about?

I didn't start the thread, I just posted the information

HemiEd
12-03-2009, 06:33 PM
This is a real shocker.

Farzin
12-03-2009, 06:33 PM
Just came home, turned on the TV, and wrote what I heard from Neal Jones.... Supposedly, he felt, there was an unexpected meeting. His words, I just carried them over.

CoMoChief
12-03-2009, 06:36 PM
KC Star reporting it too.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 06:39 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4152862325_1b14a80eee_o.gif

Mr. Laz
12-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Just came home, turned on the TV, and wrote what I heard from Neal Jones.... Supposedly, he felt, there was an unexpected meeting. His words, I just carried them over.lol

it's ok ... next time just include a word of some kind that indicates thread subject. :D

OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2009, 06:41 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4152862325_1b14a80eee_o.gif

ROFL

Frazod
12-03-2009, 06:42 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4152862325_1b14a80eee_o.gif

Nice, but the splash should have been bigger. :D

OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2009, 06:42 PM
<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/mangino photoshops/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg?o=1" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg" border="0"></a>

CrazyPhuD
12-03-2009, 06:44 PM
It's because he ate John Goodman isn't it?

Mr. Laz
12-03-2009, 06:53 PM
once again any thread remotely KU turns into a Mizzou dickfest.

dirk digler
12-03-2009, 06:53 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4152862325_1b14a80eee_o.gif

LMAO That is awesome

Frazod
12-03-2009, 06:56 PM
once again any thread remotely KU turns into a Mizzou dickfest.

BASKETBALL! BASKETBALL! :p

OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2009, 06:58 PM
once again any thread remotely KU turns into a Mizzou dickfest.

Neither Mikey nor I are a Mizzou fan, so I'm not sure why you'd say that.

Here's one for the road.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1265xuc.jpg

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:00 PM
Congrats

Titty Meat
12-03-2009, 07:08 PM
"Ku football bringing in good talent"

"KU will compete as long as Mangino is the coach"

"History awaits"

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Chris and Cowboy were ripping 810 earlier for saying that mangino would be out today, possibly at 4pm, it just happend later

db's

Titty Meat
12-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Why does 610 even have sports? They should go back to country music

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 07:15 PM
Mangino has "resigned"

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/dec/03/source-perkins-tells-players-mangino-will-no-longe/?football

All documents and details of the settlement sealed as part of his personnel record. Bet that get's overturned.

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:17 PM
let the Terry Allen era re-begin

Titty Meat
12-03-2009, 07:17 PM
let the Terry Allen era re-begin

No way they got millionare dollar facilites now

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:20 PM
Todd Reesing for HC

Titty Meat
12-03-2009, 07:21 PM
Wow. http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1586051&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=2

Saulbadguy
12-03-2009, 07:21 PM
Jim Harbaugh?

HotRoute
12-03-2009, 07:23 PM
so who is a potential replacement?

cabletech94
12-03-2009, 07:34 PM
<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/mangino photoshops/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg?o=1" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg" border="0"></a>

That'd have to be one HUGE towel!

BWillie
12-03-2009, 07:34 PM
so who is a potential replacement?

I'll do it. PM me Lew. Or don't, I'll have my people contact your people.

|Zach|
12-03-2009, 07:35 PM
It will be nice to not have to see all the lame jokes and pictures.

dirk digler
12-03-2009, 07:38 PM
It will be nice to not have to see all the lame jokes and pictures.

Damn you're no fun

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Is that manginos wife with him?

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 07:39 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/manginoorange.jpg

|Zach|
12-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Damn you're no fun

That shit was more tired than the Gaz option and antifreeze combined.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 07:41 PM
It will be nice to not have to see all the lame jokes and pictures.

http://news.lavenderliberal.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/crybaby-truth.jpg

dirk digler
12-03-2009, 07:42 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/manginoorange.jpg

Is that manginos wife with him?

Bearcat
12-03-2009, 07:43 PM
It will be nice to not have to see all the lame jokes and pictures.

Yeah, once Kansas hires an aesthetically pleasing head coach, you'll all have to go back to bashing other things, like on field performance... ha!



:sulk:

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 07:46 PM
Yeah, once Kansas hires an aesthetically pleasing head coach, you'll all have to go back to bashing other things, like on field performance... ha!



:sulk:

Mangino's fat, Jayhawks are fags, Lawrence is filled with hippies. How is that any different than Snyder is old, Snyder wears diapers, KSU fans fuck sheep....


gimme a break....don't act all superior when I guarantee I could dig up Zach posting something derogatory if I had the inclination.

Kerberos
12-03-2009, 07:50 PM
It will be nice to not have to see all the lame jokes and pictures.

That shit was more tired than the Gaz option and antifreeze combined.

Don't like what's for dinner? Go someplace else to eat. Pretty damn simple

|Zach|
12-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Mangino's fat, Jayhawks are pillowbiters, Lawrence is filled with hippies. How is that any different than Snyder is old, Snyder wears diapers, KSU fans **** sheep....


gimme a break....don't act all superior when I guarantee I could dig up Zach posting something derogatory if I had the inclination.

Something like what I was speaking up against?

You absolutely couldn't.

Bearcat
12-03-2009, 08:20 PM
Mangino's fat, Jayhawks are pillowbiters, Lawrence is filled with hippies. How is that any different than Snyder is old, Snyder wears diapers, KSU fans **** sheep....


gimme a break....don't act all superior when I guarantee I could dig up Zach posting something derogatory if I had the inclination.

You're right, it is pretty much all the same... doesn't matter if it's KU, KSU, Mizzou, the Chiefs, CP jokes, whatever, 90% of it is recycled stuff that may or may not have been funny the first time, or the first 100 times.

Hell, I got tired of the "Imma let you finish" the day after it happened, and just saw someone use it on Twitter today.

Everyone's a comedian. :rolleyes:

Lzen
12-03-2009, 08:23 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4152862325_1b14a80eee_o.gif

ROFL

Lzen
12-03-2009, 08:29 PM
let the Terry Allen era re-begin

I hate you. :cuss:

Sure-Oz
12-03-2009, 08:31 PM
I hate you. :cuss:

LMAO

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 08:34 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AiqrwC2eMuMu.YJTUspOjzIcvrYF?slug=jn-manginocol20309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


good take on it

T-post Tom
12-03-2009, 08:39 PM
You're right, it is pretty much all the same... doesn't matter if it's KU, KSU, Mizzou, the Chiefs, CP jokes, whatever, 90% of it is recycled stuff that may or may not have been funny the first time, or the first 100 times.

Hell, I got tired of the "Imma let you finish" the day after it happened, and just saw someone use it on Twitter today.

Everyone's a comedian. :rolleyes:


Oh no you did ent!

kstater
12-03-2009, 08:41 PM
It’s also noteworthy that, despite all of his success in Lawrence, Mangino’s name never appeared on a short list for the various job openings that surfaced over the past four or five years.
.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 08:42 PM
.

I'm sure this helped:

0-8
3-5
2-6
3-5
7-1
4-4
1-7

23-41 (.359)








oh, and he's morbidly obese. THAT'S why... :spock:

kstater
12-03-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm sure this helped:

0-8
3-5
2-6
3-5
7-1
4-4
1-7

23-41 (.359)

Oh, and he's morbidly obese. THAT'S why... :spock:

Don't you GET it? He's built up the recruiting.

Bearcat
12-03-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm sure this helped:

0-8
3-5
2-6
3-5
7-1
4-4
1-7

23-41 (.359)








oh, and he's morbidly obese. THAT'S why... :spock:

Yeah, 15-17 in the last 4 seasons... that's just not what Kansas football is all about.

FFS.

Bearcat
12-03-2009, 08:48 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AiqrwC2eMuMu.YJTUspOjzIcvrYF?slug=jn-manginocol20309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


good take on it

I agree with everything except:

In the past, Kansas had no choice but to tolerate Mangino because he was winning.

Okay, maybe you can't fire the guy, but the slaps on the wrist and the contract extension show they cared very little about it... oh, until they lost a few games. Oh noes!

Saulbadguy
12-03-2009, 08:48 PM
2 wins away from tying the winning-est head coach in KU football history.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-03-2009, 08:49 PM
He always lost to Snyder like a gentleman, so I'll miss him.

dirk digler
12-03-2009, 08:54 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AiqrwC2eMuMu.YJTUspOjzIcvrYF?slug=jn-manginocol20309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


good take on it

Thanks for the link. I don't follow KU football much but it seems like he was genuine asshole.

Saulbadguy
12-03-2009, 08:55 PM
Sounds like Briscoe is gone.

ChiTown
12-03-2009, 08:59 PM
Sounds like Briscoe is gone.

link?

Lzen
12-03-2009, 09:12 PM
Jim Harbaugh?

That would be a fantastic hire. But I don't see him leaving a good situation like the one he has at Stanford.

Lzen
12-03-2009, 09:14 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/mangino%20photoshops/ksu4tc/MANGINO-2.jpg?o=1)

Wait, I heard that he had to hire an assistant to wipe his ass for him.

Braincase
12-03-2009, 09:15 PM
Sounds like Briscoe is gone.

Most juniors with a decent chance of getting drafted this year are going to bolt... look up "OU QB".

Lzen
12-03-2009, 09:15 PM
That shit was more tired than the Gaz option and antifreeze combined.

Truth.

KcMizzou
12-03-2009, 09:19 PM
I agree with everything except:



Okay, maybe you can't fire the guy, but the slaps on the wrist and the contract extension show they cared very little about it... oh, until they lost a few games. Oh noes!That's on Perkins, isn't it?

I mean, He knew all along what was going on. But I guess you can't fault the guy too much.

As long as the team was winning, Mangino had him by the balls. The fan base would have crucified him if he'd done anything sooner.

The contract extension though... that's tough to defend.

Buehler445
12-03-2009, 09:19 PM
Sounds like Briscoe is gone.

I would be if I were him.

Buehler445
12-03-2009, 09:20 PM
This is a foregone conclusion, but the whole fucking mess is a bad deal for KU. Seriously, who is going to want to coach KU football if you get fired for poking a kid in the chest?

Someone is going to get a hell of a good coach in Mangino.

BWillie
12-03-2009, 09:20 PM
I don't think any KU fans were banking on Briscoe coming back anyway. It was a foregone conclusion. I hope he shows deceptive speed at the combine to get him into the 2nd round.

Lzen
12-03-2009, 09:21 PM
Sounds like it was a lot more and a lot worse than just poking a kid in the chest.

teedubya
12-03-2009, 09:21 PM
The End of an Era.

Those 2.5 years of KU football relevance was AWESOME!!!11

Lzen
12-03-2009, 09:21 PM
I don't think any KU fans were banking on Briscoe coming back anyway. It was a foregone conclusion. I hope he shows deceptive speed at the combine to get him into the 2nd round.

Yup.

KcMizzou
12-03-2009, 09:23 PM
This is a foregone conclusion, but the whole fucking mess is a bad deal for KU. Seriously, who is going to want to coach KU football if you get fired for poking a kid in the chest?

Someone is going to get a hell of a good coach in Mangino.I wouldn't send my kid off to play for him.

I think after all that's come out, KU's better off without him.

LaChapelle
12-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Damn, now all we got are Lion and Cheeta Woods jokes.

Braincase
12-03-2009, 09:37 PM
Damn, now all we got are Lion and Cheeta Woods jokes.

What's the difference between a golf ball and an Escalade? Tiger Woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-03-2009, 09:48 PM
Most juniors with a decent chance of getting drafted this year are going to bolt... look up "OU QB".

that's part of it, but also the anticipated new rookie salary structure starting in 2011

teedubya
12-03-2009, 09:51 PM
I bet the buffets in town are going to be happy.

ArrowheadHawk
12-03-2009, 10:30 PM
Found an article with some candidates.

"Possible candidates include Texas A&M offensive coordinator Nolan Cromwell, a great wishbone quarterback at Kansas in the mid-70s, Houston coach Kevin Sumlin and Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen"

http://www.hdnews.net/Story/Mangino120309

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 10:37 PM
so who is a potential replacement?

When ESPN broke the story earlier this evening I happened to catch it and the college football analyst (I can't remember who it was to be honest) threw a few names out there as potential replacements for Mangino:

-Randy Esdall - UCONN Head Coach
I believe Lew Perkins originally hired him at UCONN and he's supposed to be a potentially hot commodity right now.

-Kevin Sumlin - Houston Head Coach

-Brent Venables - OU Associate Head Coach/ Def. Coordinator/ LBers Coach


Harbaugh wouldn't be a bad choice either assuming he would agree to leave Stanford, which I don't really see him doing.

Bane
12-03-2009, 10:39 PM
I'm waiting for the move Mangino to center thread.
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luv
12-03-2009, 10:39 PM
Found an article with some candidates.

"Possible candidates include Texas A&M offensive coordinator Nolan Cromwell, a great wishbone quarterback at Kansas in the mid-70s, Houston coach Kevin Sumlin and Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen"

http://www.hdnews.net/Story/Mangino120309

I actually like your sig pic. The concept of it, of course.

Spott
12-03-2009, 10:43 PM
I wonder if Mangino will end up getting another head coaching job after all of this.

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 10:45 PM
I wonder if Mangino will end up getting another head coaching job after all of this.

I'd be willing to bet he does at some point. I strongly do not feel he'll get that opportunity right away though. I think he'll have to prove himself all over again at least to a certain extent, that's for sure.

Boon
12-03-2009, 10:48 PM
Why did he resign?

salame
12-03-2009, 10:49 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/MarkMangino.jpg

http://www.omsh.net/images/Planet_X_H_.jpg

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 10:54 PM
Why did he resign?

Probably because they appreciated him enough and what he did for the KU football program to offer him a resignation along with part of his salary rather than firing him outright with cause and not paying him any of his salary. This way he still gets to keep his self dignity or what may be left of it and at the same time collect a paycheck as well. Mangino I think deserves at least that for resurrecting KU's football program from the dead.

BWillie
12-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Probably because they appreciated him enough and what he did for the KU football program to offer him a resignation along with part of his salary rather than firing him outright with cause and not paying him any of his salary. This way he still gets to keep his self dignity or what may be left of it and at the same time collect a paycheck as well. Mangino I think deserves at least that for resurrecting KU's football program from the dead.

Or they negotiated a settlement so they would not get sued and to attempt to limit a negative public perception.

KcMizzou
12-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Probably because they appreciated him enough and what he did for the KU football program to offer him a resignation along with part of his salary rather than firing him outright with cause and not paying him any of his salary. This way he still gets to keep his self dignity or what may be left of it and at the same time collect a paycheck as well. Mangino I think deserves at least that for resurrecting KU's football program from the dead.They made a deal. Both sides knew he was done. They just had to agree on the money. Working out a settlement is the only thing that made it take so long.

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 10:59 PM
Or they negotiated a settlement so they would not get sued.

True this could be as well. I really don't think we're ever going to know for sure though. It's over with. Now the question is who do they get to replace him and how soon does that hire happen?

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 11:02 PM
They made a deal. Both sides knew he was done. They just had to agree on the money. Working out a settlement is the only thing that made it take so long.

This is true. The analyst on ESPN I saw though was saying that KU came extremely close to firing him with cause in which case they wouldn't have owed him the remainder of his salary. Now with this settlement between Mangino and KU he still recieves part of that salary. I was just pointing out a possible reason they didn't fire him outright was because they had appreciated what the guy had done for the program.

KcMizzou
12-03-2009, 11:04 PM
True this could be as well. I really don't think we're ever going to know for sure though. It's over with. Now the question is who do they get to replace him and how soon does that hire happen?I'm pretty sure we know.

I'm a Mizzou fan... I hope you get a shitty coach. (Hey, it's my job)

But you guys would have been completely screwed, had Mangino stayed. Every coach you'd ever recruit against would have tons of ammo against him, and KU.

I don't know who you'll get, but unfortunately... I'm pretty sure you'll be better off than sticking with Mangino.

Reerun_KC
12-03-2009, 11:06 PM
I'm pretty sure we know.

I'm a Mizzou fan... I hope you get a shitty coach. (Hey, it's my job)

But you guys would have been completely screwed, had Mangino stayed. Every coach you'd ever recruit against would have tons of ammo against him, and KU.

I don't know who you'll get, but unfortunately... I'm pretty sure you'll be better off than sticking with Mangino.

Well for the conferences sake, I sure hope they replace Mangino with someone of credible name.... I dont have a list yet, but shit, no one cares what I think anyway...

BWillie
12-03-2009, 11:06 PM
What does everybody think about Charlie Weis? Think he would even consider it? Charlie can recruit and is an offensive mastermind. I'd rather have Turner Gill or something, and doubt Charlie will be in the college game next year but just throwing it out there.

blazzin311
12-03-2009, 11:28 PM
I'm pretty sure we know.

I'm a Mizzou fan... I hope you get a shitty coach. (Hey, it's my job)

But you guys would have been completely screwed, had Mangino stayed. Every coach you'd ever recruit against would have tons of ammo against him, and KU.

I don't know who you'll get, but unfortunately... I'm pretty sure you'll be better off than sticking with Mangino.

I agree with you. There's no way Mangino could have stayed after all this, and now that it's said and done it will be nice for a fresh start for the program. I just hope the coach is someone halfway good who knows how to recruit his ass off.


What does everybody think about Charlie Weis? Think he would even consider it? Charlie can recruit and is an offensive mastermind. I'd rather have Turner Gill or something, and doubt Charlie will be in the college game next year but just throwing it out there.

HELL to the NO! Thanks for playing.

Mr. Kotter
12-03-2009, 11:46 PM
I have an 8th grade kid who's dream is to play for football at KU....and, I swear, though I'm a grad I've done nothing to foster that dream. Guess he likes me, and wants to follow in dad's footsteps up Mt. Oread. I'm proud. It's by no means a shoo-in, but for him it's more than a pipe-dream--although a partial scholarship to someplace like NWMS or Emporia State is much more "likely."

If in 4 years, he works hard enough, has the talent, avoids major injuries, and gets enough of the breaks---that he signs to play at KU....at this point, I'd prefer it be for someone other than Mangino. He loves the game, he loves the competition, and he has a chance to earn his way through college doing something he loves. I'd hate for it to be for someone who lacks the self-control and self-discipline to get himself together--despite the fact that I think he's a capable and accomplished coach.

The bottom-line is, for the sake of the program and for Mangino's own health and sanity, he needs to take a year or two off...to see if he can get his shit together. If he does, some school will get a good coach in a year or two...but his time at KU has passed.

veist
12-04-2009, 02:51 AM
This is true. The analyst on ESPN I saw though was saying that KU came extremely close to firing him with cause in which case they wouldn't have owed him the remainder of his salary. Now with this settlement between Mangino and KU he still recieves part of that salary. I was just pointing out a possible reason they didn't fire him outright was because they had appreciated what the guy had done for the program.

Yeah, the settlement was almost certainly about a clean break. If they just fired him for cause his course of action would almost certainly to be to fight it which will take forever to finally get resolved. Plenty of chance for it to draw lots of negative attention to the team and/or him over the course. Just easier for everyone to see if they can find a number that works for both sides and looks like they did.

blazzin311
12-04-2009, 03:50 AM
Yeah, the settlement was almost certainly about a clean break. If they just fired him for cause his course of action would almost certainly to be to fight it which will take forever to finally get resolved. Plenty of chance for it to draw lots of negative attention to the team and/or him over the course. Just easier for everyone to see if they can find a number that works for both sides and looks like they did.

Bingo, and quite frankly this was the proper way for it to end. A clean break. It's just a shame though things had to get as bad as they got even. That being said I wish Coach Mangino well, but time for someone new. Time to search the coaching carousel. I wonder who it will be? :hmmm:

kstater
12-04-2009, 06:26 AM
Probably because they appreciated him enough and what he did for the KU football program to offer him a resignation along with part of his salary rather than firing him outright with cause and not paying him any of his salary. This way he still gets to keep his self dignity or what may be left of it and at the same time collect a paycheck as well. Mangino I think deserves at least that for resurrecting KU's football program from the dead.

ROFL

BigRedChief
12-04-2009, 07:28 AM
okay guys here's what I heard....

Mangino has been being pushed by Perkins for the last 2 years to do more national interviews, glad hand with alumni and basically do more to grow the program but Mangino only wanted to coach football. He felt all that "other" stuff took away from the point, winning football. Perkins point was that Kansas football needed to grow to be a BCS contender every year. Media and money was an important part to making that happen.

Disclaimer.....This came from a budddy's realitive who works in Perkins office. So take it for what its worth, grain of salt etc.

eazyb81
12-04-2009, 07:38 AM
When ESPN broke the story earlier this evening I happened to catch it and the college football analyst (I can't remember who it was to be honest) threw a few names out there as potential replacements for Mangino:

-Randy Esdall - UCONN Head Coach
I believe Lew Perkins originally hired him at UCONN and he's supposed to be a potentially hot commodity right now.

-Kevin Sumlin - Houston Head Coach

-Brent Venables - OU Associate Head Coach/ Def. Coordinator/ LBers Coach


Harbaugh wouldn't be a bad choice either assuming he would agree to leave Stanford, which I don't really see him doing.

Houston coach Kevin Sumlin would actually be a great hire for you guys. Could be catching lightening in a bottle with him - he's young, but he has the pedigree and early success you look for.

Buehler445
12-04-2009, 07:42 AM
I wouldn't send my kid off to play for him.

I think after all that's come out, KU's better off without him.

I'm fully aware that once all this shit came out, he had to go, but ultimately what potential coaching candidates will see is that Mangino was fired because he poked Arist Wright in the chest and yelled at him. Why in the name of fuck would ANY coach come here? That was my point.

After the media ball got rolling, he had to go, but KU should have never let it get rolling. Perkins should have taken Mangino in his office, forced him to quit, leak some shit to the media from an "unnamed source" that he may have potentially had a health problem, and it's problem solved.

Buehler445
12-04-2009, 07:45 AM
Well for the conferences sake, I sure hope they replace Mangino with someone of credible name.... I dont have a list yet, but shit, no one cares what I think anyway...

PUT THE CHEERLEADERS BACK, ASSFACE!

What are you thinking?

kepp
12-04-2009, 08:22 AM
Probably because they appreciated him enough and what he did for the KU football program to offer him a resignation along with part of his salary rather than firing him outright with cause and not paying him any of his salary. This way he still gets to keep his self dignity or what may be left of it and at the same time collect a paycheck as well. Mangino I think deserves at least that for resurrecting KU's football program from the dead.

Yeah, 'cause that's how slick Lew operates. Compassion is job #1!

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 09:19 AM
I'm betting Kevin Sumlin

He has excellent ties to Texas recruiting, has an great mind for Offense, he's relatively young, energetic, and someone the ku fan base can rally around and relate to.

IMO, that would be an excellent hire, and a logical move for both Sumlin and ku. I don't see Harbaugh as a very good option. Larry Fedora would be a good candidate as well, but I think you drain more mileage off the Sumlin hire. jmho.

gblowfish
12-04-2009, 09:25 AM
Here's some coaching candidates for KU:
Bob Stull
Woody Wiedenhofer
Warren Powers

terrysheafanclub
12-04-2009, 09:46 AM
I think Sumlin is the guy. His squad at Houston puts up huge numbers. The only problem is that his defense gives up a lot too. Double edged sword.

I also know a few NFL assistants who would jump all over this job...

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 09:49 AM
I think Sumlin is the guy. His squad at Houston puts up huge numbers. The only problem is that his defense gives up a lot too. Double edged sword.

I also know a few NFL assistants who would jump all over this job...

What NFL Assist's?

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 09:49 AM
Here's some coaching candidates for KU:
Bob Stull
Woody Wiedenhofer
Warren Powers

Who?

Extra Point
12-04-2009, 09:50 AM
Philip Montgomery should at least get an interview with KU. He's worked with Art Briles for years. Sure Baylor didn't have a winning season, but look at what Briles' staff did in Houston, in such a short time frame. Houston got impatient, like KU, for a win-shorted season.

Good luck, Jabba, wherever you land. But don't land hard.

Skip Towne
12-04-2009, 10:08 AM
PUT THE CHEERLEADERS BACK, ASSFACE!

What are you thinking?

Yeah ASSFACE!!!!!!!

DaKCMan AP
12-04-2009, 10:19 AM
No mention of Charlie Strong? He's rumored to be Louisville's #1 target. Or is KU football not as big as Louisville? :shrug:

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Who?

ROFL

Former MU Coaches from the late 70's through the early 90's. None of those coaches were very good, except Powers, He had some very talented teams for a while - but I think he got MU placed on Probation during his tenure, IIRC (maybe not)

siberian khatru
12-04-2009, 10:29 AM
ROFL

Former MU Coaches from the late 70's through the early 90's. None of those coaches were very good, except Powers, He had some very talented teams for a while - but I think he got MU placed on Probation during his tenure, IIRC (maybe not)

No probation that I recall, unless it was something really, really minor in scope and penalty that escapes my aging mind.

Powers won early with Al Onofrio's talent. He couldn't recruit, and worst of all he totally alienated St. Louis and that talent pool completely dried up.* Really, MU wasn't able to make inroads in St. Louis again until Pinkel arrived (Cornell Ford can't coach DBs, but he's been instrumental in rebuilding bridges to St. Louis).

* Except for ... TONY VAN ZANT!

TrebMaxx
12-04-2009, 11:19 AM
ROFL

Former MU Coaches from the late 70's through the early 90's. None of those coaches were very good, except Powers, He had some very talented teams for a while - but I think he got MU placed on Probation during his tenure, IIRC (maybe not)

Powers was a drunk too.

siberian khatru
12-04-2009, 11:25 AM
No probation that I recall, unless it was something really, really minor in scope and penalty that escapes my aging mind.


Well, I am getting old (from wiki):

On October 24, 1979, the NCAA's Committee on Infractions publicly reprimanded MU for a violation of NCAA Constitution 3-2 related to a failure to exercise institutional control. The violation was in regard to the use of a fund established outside the university for the purpose of paying Powers for debt he assumed while negotiating to become MU's head coach. NCAA regulations require the university's involvement when its coach receives a cash supplement related to duties he is performing on the institution's behalf, and the NCAA found that MU had failed to do so in this case.

siberian khatru
12-04-2009, 11:27 AM
Oh, and sorry for the hijack of a KU thread with MU ancient history.

booger
12-04-2009, 11:40 AM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 11:46 AM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

Dear Lord:

Please let Herm Edwards be the next coach at UK.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

teedubya
12-04-2009, 11:48 AM
Houston coach Kevin Sumlin would actually be a great hire for you guys. Could be catching lightening in a bottle with him - he's young, but he has the pedigree and early success you look for.

This is who I want... he is only making 700k a year... AND... if you are going to be successful in the big 12... you need to mine Texas for talent. Having been in Houston and the recruits being aware of the success he had there... makes this a no-brainer to me.

Pants
12-04-2009, 11:51 AM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

Oh god, PLEASE don't let this happen. PLEASE!

wild1
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

Oh my....

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
This is who I want... he is only making 700k a year... AND... if you are going to be successful in the big 12... you need to mine Texas for talent. Having been in Houston and the recruits being aware of the success he had there... makes this a no-brainer to me.

Not only that, but he's just a good dude.

I met him at the Alamo Bowl in 98 while he was an assistant at Purdue - I think he was coaching receivers at the time. You won't find a more humble and hard working guy. I really hope you don't get him:evil:

CoMoChief
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

holy fucking shit. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!!!!!

mikeyis4dcats.
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
I wonder if Mangino will end up getting another head coaching job after all of this.

Mid-major or D2 might take the chance....no big time school will.

teedubya
12-04-2009, 12:02 PM
ON second thought... I want Herm Edwards!! Fuck yeah!!!11

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 12:06 PM
If Herm Edwards comes to KU, I will personally drive up to KU and rip Perkins soul out and skull fuck it right in front of him...

I full fucking kill anyone who ever suggests that shit again... Especially you Mutards and sheep fucking KSU fans!

Deberg_1990
12-04-2009, 12:07 PM
heh

mikeyis4dcats.
12-04-2009, 12:07 PM
If Herm Edwards comes to KU, I will personally drive up to KU and rip Perkins soul out and skull **** it right in front of him...

I full ****ing kill anyone who ever suggests that shit again... Especially you Mutards and sheep ****ing KSU fans!

I'll drive there with you anf keep the car running. I never want to hear that fucktard SPEAK again.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
I'll drive there with you anf keep the car running. I never want to hear that ****tard SPEAK again.

Its a deal! I will bring beer and whiskey for the drive too and from!

Braincase
12-04-2009, 12:18 PM
I'm just glad that this chapter has closed. When he exceeded expectations, he really exceeded expectations, and when he didn't live up to expectations, it was a disaster. I do have faith that Lew can get the right guy in place. The football equivalent of Self would be nice, but I'm going to be more realistic. There are some good, young coaches out there that are looking for the next step up, and there are some seasoned coaches out there that would like a chance to show what they can do in a BCS Conference. In the meantime, I'm just going to kick back and enjoy other sports.

ROYC75
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

I can hear Herm, It's OOOOOKKKKKAAAAAAYYYYYYYY


Please Dear Lord, Not this, Please?

Pants
12-04-2009, 12:32 PM
I can hear Herm, It's OOOOOKKKKKAAAAAAYYYYYYYY


Please Dear Lord, Not this, Please?

Why would anybody even consider that hack? It blows my mind. I wonder what his Arena Football stance would be in college ball?

Mecca
12-04-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm sorry there is no fucking way Jim Harbaugh is going to take the job at Kansas with the way he's thought of right now.

Not unless KU is willing to pay a huge huge dollar amount.

ROYC75
12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
KU is willing to pay a huge huge dollar amount.


Fixed your post.

They will !

mikeyis4dcats.
12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
Herm would make a great minority interview because you and he and everyone you know knows he will never get hired anywhere in the KC viewing area.

wild1
12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
It had to end. Mangino's fate was written weeks and weeks ago.

His comments that he may have lost some people at KU but not the players is pretty clear. Perkins had been conspiring against him for a long time, and Mangino knew it. I wouldn't be surprised if he cut a backroom deal at midseason with whomever his appointee will be.

Perhaps he will hold back on a decision for a while, if he wishes to get more funds in the meantime, to supposedly attract the best candidate.

I'm wondering who would work for someone who would cut the legs off their coach like that, whatever Mangino's failings may have been.

|Zach|
12-04-2009, 12:42 PM
What does everybody think about Charlie Weis? Think he would even consider it? Charlie can recruit and is an offensive mastermind. I'd rather have Turner Gill or something, and doubt Charlie will be in the college game next year but just throwing it out there.

ROFLROFL

You Kansas fans...yes! Charlie would love to coach football at the University of Kansas.

JFC.

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 12:42 PM
I'm sorry there is no ****ing way Jim Harbaugh is going to take the job at Kansas with the way he's thought of right now.

Not unless KU is willing to pay a huge huge dollar amount.

I think KU would be willing to pay (for the right guy) $2-2.5MM. They were already paying MM $2.3MM, so..........

Bearcat
12-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24

Oh no they di'nt!

Mecca
12-04-2009, 12:43 PM
You'd literally have to make him the highest paid coach in college to get him to take that job.

wild1
12-04-2009, 12:44 PM
ROFLROFL

You Kansas fans...yes! Charlie would love to coach football at the University of Kansas.

JFC.

Yes, and Tony Dungy is probably dying to coach at UConn or something.

CoMoChief
12-04-2009, 12:45 PM
It had to end. Mangino's fate was written weeks and weeks ago.

His comments that he may have lost some people at KU but not the players is pretty clear. Perkins had been conspiring against him for a long time, and Mangino knew it. I wouldn't be surprised if he cut a backroom deal at midseason with whomever his appointee will be.

Perhaps he will hold back on a decision for a while, if he wishes to get more funds in the meantime, to supposedly attract the best candidate.

I'm wondering who would work for someone who would cut the legs off their coach like that, whatever Mangino's failings may have been.

Perkins and Mangino didn't really get along from the start. Perkins didn't hire Mangino. If Perkins hires his own guy, I'm sure it would work out fine. I bet they go after UConn's coach. He's already at a school where football takes the backseat to basketball so he knows how to deal with that, something that I dont think Mangino could deal with deep down inside. Not to mention that I think Lew is the one that hired the UConn coach when he was at UConn before he came to Kansas.

ChiTown
12-04-2009, 12:46 PM
You'd literally have to make him the highest paid coach in college to get him to take that job.

I doubt that. His wife is from the KC area, so who knows. Family ties (especially the wifes family) can make certain deals look better than they are.

Personally, I don't see Harbaugh as a good fit. He's a name, but I don't necessarily think he'd be the right guy.

Mecca
12-04-2009, 12:48 PM
Harbaugh can get an NFL job if he wants one. I just don't think he'd leave Stanford for Kansas.

KCFalcon59
12-04-2009, 12:48 PM
Thursday December 3, 2009

Kansas: One of our sources tells us that a Kansas rep talked with Herm Edwards over a week ago. The other name we hear Kansas would like to talk with is Texas wide receivers coach Bobby Kennedy.

http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24


I just threw up. :Lin:

gblowfish
12-04-2009, 12:49 PM
KU's new coaching staff:
Herm Edwards: Head Coach
Jimmy Raye: OC
Gunther Cunningham: DC
Mike Stock: Special Teams
Dick Vermiel: Team Psychologist
Joe Phillips: Strength & Conditioning
Neil Smith: DUI Avoidance
Carl Peterson: Towel Boy

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 12:50 PM
How about Ron Prince?

DumbHillbillies
12-04-2009, 12:50 PM
Jim Harbaugh?

ROFL

Bearcat
12-04-2009, 12:57 PM
KU's new coaching staff:
Herm Edwards: Head Coach
Jimmy Raye: OC
Gunther Cunningham: DC
Mike Stock: Special Teams
Dick Vermiel: Team Psychologist
Joe Phillips: Strength & Conditioning
Neil Smith: DUI Avoidance
Carl Peterson: Towel Boy

It's sad that from the Chiefs' fairly recent past, this could actually be worse.... No Greg Robinson. They could bring in LJ for cakn patna counseling for those preparing for a career in the NFL....


I hate you all.

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:00 PM
It's sad that from the Chiefs' fairly recent past, this could actually be worse.... No Greg Robinson. They could bring in LJ for cakn patna counseling for those preparing for a career in the NFL....


I hate you all.

Basketball, atleast you have that...

I think there is hope for KU football, it looks bad now but atleast there may be more interest than there was before mangino

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:01 PM
Basketball, atleast you have that...

I think there is hope for KU football, it looks bad now but atleast there may be more interest than there was before mangino

Actually I think your right... I could be a good situation and regardless what Negative Mecca says, Hes got no fucking clue who is going to KU or who will turn it down....

ROYC75
12-04-2009, 01:06 PM
I do look for someone big ( Not Mangino BIG ) to come in, restructure what they have, reload and start firing away again. It will take a couple of years to reload with a new coach, but the potential is there now that there ever has been before.

Saulbadguy
12-04-2009, 01:06 PM
Dez Briscoe declares for NFL draft, says Aqib Talib advised him to. #ku #kufball

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:07 PM
I wonder if there is a coach bigger than Mangino out there

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:07 PM
Dez Briscoe declares for NFL draft, says Aqib Talib advised him to. #ku #kufball

ROFL

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:08 PM
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:08 PM
Dez Briscoe declares for NFL draft, says Aqib Talib advised him to. #ku #kufball

:doh!:

kepp
12-04-2009, 01:09 PM
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

What's he gonna be after next year with a new coach and everyone getting used to a new system?

ROYC75
12-04-2009, 01:09 PM
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

Late 2nd, at worst a 3rd.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:09 PM
I wonder if there is a coach bigger than Mangino out there

Wonder why your still fascinated with a guy that isnt at KU anymore?

Saulbadguy
12-04-2009, 01:10 PM
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

He is a thug criminal with no brain.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:11 PM
He is a thug criminal with no brain.

:rolleyes:

Sounds like many of the big 12 players... Whats your point?

teedubya
12-04-2009, 01:11 PM
Yeah, that deadspin article is hilarious.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/12/500x_53235511210k.jpg

Mangino Rides Off Into The Sunset, Less Than Comfortably

http://deadspin.com/5418643/mangino-rides-off-into-the-sunset-less-than-comfortably

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:11 PM
Wonder why your still fascinated with a guy that isnt at KU anymore?

how am i fascinated? i dont care, it was just a question, i will miss his interviews

Titty Meat
12-04-2009, 01:12 PM
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

A 5th round pick? That guy is slow as fuck, he won't be a good NFL player.

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:13 PM
Late 2nd, at worst a 3rd.

His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

|Zach|
12-04-2009, 01:13 PM
:rolleyes:

Sounds like many of the big 12 players... Whats your point?

Does it?

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:13 PM
What's he gonna be after next year with a new coach and everyone getting used to a new system?

I dunno how about get that free degree seeing as he doesn't have much pro potential either way.

OnTheWarpath15
12-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Late 2nd, at worst a 3rd.

He's going to have to shave some serious time off his 40, and learn to run the route tree before anyone considers him a 3rd round pick or better.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Does it?

:doh!: Shit dude I forgot that ONLY KU players are brainless thugs... What was I thinking?

kepp
12-04-2009, 01:15 PM
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

From what I've heard, he could challenge Vince Young's wonderlic score.

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:15 PM
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

What do you think of DA of mizzou

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:15 PM
He's going to have to shave some serious time off his 40, and learn to run the route tree before anyone considers him a 3rd round pick or better.

Agreed, probably not a good move, maybe should of waited to see who they brought in to replace Mangino first....

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:15 PM
For everything Briscoe has done at the college level, he's a very marginal pro prospect.

He's basically a shitty version of Adarius Bowman who is still not in the league.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
From what I've heard, he could challenge Vince Young's wonderlic score.

ROFL

That is pretty bad, VY's barely gave him enough brain cells to breath...

ChiefsCountry
12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
I hate to say it but Herm would probably be a damn good college coach. He could be like Pete Carroll. If he could recruit, which I think he probably could with a pro-set offense and Cover 2 defense lots of kids with NFL dreams would bite on that, he could do it. You can get away with lot of his coaching mistakes in college with elite talent.

OnTheWarpath15
12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
What do you think of DA of mizzou

Scott Wright has him as the 6th best WR, IIRC.

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:18 PM
For Alexander, his 40 time will have a ton to do with his draft position. Because of the knee and all of that.

He has size, but being from the gimmicky offense does hurt him.

Reerun_KC
12-04-2009, 01:18 PM
I hate to say it but Herm would probably be a damn good college coach. He could be like Pete Carroll. If he could recruit, which I think he probably could with a pro-set offense and Cover 2 defense lots of kids with NFL dreams would bite on that, he could do it. You can get away with lot of his coaching mistakes in college with elite talent.

:cuss:

|Zach|
12-04-2009, 01:18 PM
:doh!: Shit dude I forgot that ONLY KU players are brainless thugs... What was I thinking?

Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

Titty Meat
12-04-2009, 01:19 PM
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

4.7 is being nice. Did you watch the KU game where they had a WIDE OPEN reverse and he gets out ran to the corner by a defensive end?

Kerry Meier could be a nice prospect though.

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Scott Wright has him as the 6th best WR, IIRC.

Not bad, i wouldn't mind the chiefs taking him if he is a mid round guy but his injury history is scary

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:20 PM
For Alexander, his 40 time will have a ton to do with his draft position. Because of the knee and all of that.

He has size, but being from the gimmicky offense does hurt him.

Yeah i dont know what he'd run, but i think he could be a solid pro if healthy

Titty Meat
12-04-2009, 01:20 PM
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.


Gabbert that fucker!

Bearcat
12-04-2009, 01:20 PM
Basketball, atleast you have that...

I think there is hope for KU football, it looks bad now but atleast there may be more interest than there was before mangino

Hey, we bring up basketball. That's our thing! Get your own thing.

I dunno, I could see it going either way at this point... back to irrelevance or back to at least fighting for the North.

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:21 PM
Hey, we bring up basketball. That's our thing! Get your own thing.

I dunno, I could see it going either way at this point... back to irrelevance or back to at least fighting for the North.

I would like KU to atleast be decent, makes the games more fun. It wont matter though if mizzous d is crap, they'll make ku look good even if the team sucks

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:21 PM
I don't think Kansas has any legit pro prospects outside of Stuckey who is a solid prospect so anyone declaring early from there is just baffling.

OnTheWarpath15
12-04-2009, 01:23 PM
4.7 is being nice. Did you watch the KU game where they had a WIDE OPEN reverse and he gets out ran to the corner by a defensive end?

Kerry Meier could be a nice prospect though.

Meier's 40 time isn't much better. 4.65 at best.

The only possible decent NFL prospect at KU is Stuckey, and he'll likely be a 2nd/3rd.

Titty Meat
12-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Yes but Meier is an athlete where Briscoe is pretty much all about size.

I can't believe KU fans would be pissed about Herm Edwards, his philosphy is exactly what it will take to beat Big 12 south teams.

Jerm
12-04-2009, 01:24 PM
schadjoe KU WR Dezmon Briscoe will enter NFL draft. "I have nothing left to prove in CFB." Told me he was gone no matter what.

Errrrmmmm ok Dez....whatever you say.

Saulbadguy
12-04-2009, 01:24 PM
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

I don't think I could name a "brainless thug" on KU's team other than Briscoe, TBH.

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:24 PM
Meier will be lucky if he makes the practice squad somewhere

CoMoChief
12-04-2009, 01:25 PM
Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

Sure-Oz
12-04-2009, 01:25 PM
Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

Good HS coach

|Zach|
12-04-2009, 01:25 PM
I don't think I could name a "brainless thug" on KU's team other than Briscoe, TBH.

That is probably why you didn't say "many" Big 12 players are that way.

|Zach|
12-04-2009, 01:26 PM
They wanted Kelly on as QB coach at Kansas before he got hired at Blue Springs.

Mecca
12-04-2009, 01:26 PM
Dez Briscoe thinks he's Dez Bryant apparently.

It isn't even a good WR year and Briscoe still will be lucky to have his name called by the 5th round.

Titty Meat
12-04-2009, 01:27 PM
Meier will be lucky if he makes the practice squad somewhere

I just think Meier would have a better chance at making it to the NFL before Briscoe would. Plus lost in all of this is Briscoe is a risk off the field too.

Saulbadguy
12-04-2009, 01:30 PM
Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

:rolleyes:

Saulbadguy
12-04-2009, 01:30 PM
I just think Meier would have a better chance at making it to the NFL before Briscoe would. Plus lost in all of this is Briscoe is a risk off the field too.

Hence "brainless thug".

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-04-2009, 03:54 PM
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv252/raisedonriots/PastaTheHutt.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-04-2009, 03:57 PM
Neither Mikey nor I are a Mizzou fan, so I'm not sure why you'd say that.

Here's one for the road.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1265xuc.jpg


ROFL
The End of an Era.

Those 2.5 years of KU football relevance was AWESOME!!!11

Don't worry young Ari, there will always be.....

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Mosbonian
12-04-2009, 05:57 PM
okay guys here's what I heard....

Mangino has been being pushed by Perkins for the last 2 years to do more national interviews, glad hand with alumni and basically do more to grow the program but Mangino only wanted to coach football. He felt all that "other" stuff took away from the point, winning football. Perkins point was that Kansas football needed to grow to be a BCS contender every year. Media and money was an important part to making that happen.

Disclaimer.....This came from a budddy's realitive who works in Perkins office. So take it for what its worth, grain of salt etc.

Insert Billy Gillespie and you have the same situation with him at Kentucky only in Basketball....

mmaddog
*******

ChiefsCountry
12-04-2009, 06:02 PM
I can't believe KU fans would be pissed about Herm Edwards, his philosphy is exactly what it will take to beat Big 12 south teams.

Herm would be a better fit at Nebraska actually. He could recruit top flight talent there, not so much at KU.

Terribilis
12-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Damn Basketball Jones is over the top. I had never seen that.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-04-2009, 09:58 PM
Damn Basketball Jones is over the top. I had never seen that.

The 70's were quite the different time.

salame
12-05-2009, 12:48 AM
http://www.derrich.com/img/mangino-v-obie.jpg

|Zach|
12-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

Bumb for Reerun

irishjayhawk
12-05-2009, 11:17 AM
Bumb for Reerun

He's not on that list but he goes by the handle |Zach|.

Wait, yes, I went there. I went that lame.

|Zach|
12-05-2009, 11:24 AM
He's not on that list but he goes by the handle |Zach|.

Wait, yes, I went there. I went that lame.

That was assumed.

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 01:58 PM
I think Perkins will find a good candidate to replace Mangino. At least I hope so. I plan on buying season tickets for next season.

Coach
12-05-2009, 02:01 PM
I think Perkins will find a good candidate to replace Mangino. At least I hope so. I plan on buying season tickets for next season.

I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 02:07 PM
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

I could be wrong but I think Kale Pick will be a good QB. And I think that McDougald will be a good WR.

KcMizzou
12-05-2009, 03:29 PM
I could be wrong but I think Kale Pick will be a good QB. And I think that McDougald will be a good WR.What an unfortunate name for a QB.

Pablo
12-05-2009, 03:31 PM
What an unfortunate name for a QB.Haha..yeah, most definitely.

Lzen
12-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Actually I think your right... I could be a good situation and regardless what Negative Mecca says, Hes got no fucking clue who is going to KU or who will turn it down....

You gotta understand. For people like Mecca, there are a few power programs and anyone that is not those, they don't mean jack to him. It's also why he whines about other programs that run spread offenses. You know, because USC runs a pro style.

Lzen
12-05-2009, 05:55 PM
What an unfortunate name for a QB.

Kale says perhaps not.

Sportscaster: And the Jayhawks marched right down the field for the TD. Most of the yards were gained through the air as Kale picked apart the defense. ;)

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Kale says perhaps not.

Sportscaster: And the Jayhawks marched right down the field for the TD. Most of the yards were gained through the air as Kale picked apart the defense. ;)
It will go both ways.

Braincase
12-05-2009, 07:31 PM
Newfeed during the Big 12 Champy says KU is interviewing Turner Gill.

Brock
12-05-2009, 07:34 PM
Report: Turner Gill to interview for Kansas opening

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By J. Brady McCollough - Posted on 05 December 2009

Buffalo coach Turner Gill will interview for the Kansas head coaching vacancy on Sunday, CBS' Tony Barnhardt said during the SEC Championship pregame show.

Gill, a former quarterback and assistant coach at Nebraska, led the Bulls to the 2008 MAC championship and their first bowl game in 50 years. Gill was a candidate for the Nebraska opening two years ago, but the school hired Bo Pelini instead.

Gill's daughter, Jordan, attends Kansas.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/542

Gill's contract with Buffalo was extended after last season and runs through 2013.

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 07:40 PM
More on Gill.

Reports are starting to surface that Buffalo head coach Turner Gill will interview for the vacancy at Kansas.

Gill, the former Nebraska quarterback and assistant coach, hasn't confirmed it, but this isn't a surprise. His daughter attends Kansas, and a return to the Midwest would be an attraction.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED02/912059968

Terribilis
12-05-2009, 07:44 PM
More on Gill.

Reports are starting to surface that Buffalo head coach Turner Gill will interview for the vacancy at Kansas.

Gill, the former Nebraska quarterback and assistant coach, hasn't confirmed it, but this isn't a surprise. His daughter attends Kansas, and a return to the Midwest would be an attraction.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED02/912059968

crap...

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 07:50 PM
crap...

Yeah, why in the hell would we want a 5-7 MAC coach.

kstater
12-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah, why in the hell would we want a 5-7 MAC coach.


At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 08:01 PM
At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

:banghead:

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2009, 08:06 PM
And now Kusports.com is reporting it.

Buffalo’s Gill reportedly interviewing for KU vacancy
By Dugan Arnett
http://media.lawrence.com/img/croppedphotos/2009/12/04/gill_t650.jpg?eec9ecda5f66de59a37bbdb23c6f48523261b548
Buffalo head coach Turner Gill

According to a report from CBS prior to Saturday's SEC championship game, Buffalo football coach Turner Gill will interview Sunday for the Kansas University head coaching position.

Gill, one of a handful of coaches mentioned as possible replacements for the recently resigned Mark Mangino, is in his fourth season as Buffalo's head coach, having led the program to the 2008 MAC championship and their first bowl game in half a century.

Despite recent comments stating he was comfortable at Buffalo, meanwhile, Gill has multiple ties to both the Big 12 and KU. Two years ago, he interviewed for the Nebraska head coaching job that eventually went to Bo Pelini, while his daughter, Jordan, is a sophomore at KU.

Interestingly, Mark Mangino's daughter, Samantha, was also a sophomore at KU when Mangino was hired as KU's coach in 2001.

A Buffalo sports information director could not be reached for comment.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/dec/05/buffalos-gill-reportly-interviewing-ku-vacancy/

Buehler445
12-05-2009, 08:11 PM
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

Mangino moved Quigley to LB. Not sure why, I thought he could do well at RB if he would have held the ball high and tight and quit fucking fumbling. He may have been too fucking stupid to learn the offense, but I liked what I saw last year.

I fully expect KU football to blow ass.
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Bearcat
12-05-2009, 08:27 PM
At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

Well, Buffalo had won 4 games in the previous 4 years in conference, which is a pretty good turnaround considering they had at least 3 wins (in 2007) for the first time since 2001, won at least 5 games (total, from 07-09) three years in a row for the first time since '82-84, and had a winning record (last year) for the first time since '96.

Skip Towne
12-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Do the colleges have a Rooney Rule?

Sure-Oz
12-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Your new hc

Terribilis
12-05-2009, 08:44 PM
so will KU be the only Big 12 team with a black head coach?

Braincase
12-05-2009, 09:03 PM
so will KU be the only Big 12 team with a black head coach?

Could be. Shouldn't make a difference, though. Get the best coach they can get, and if he happens to be a man of color (Gill, Sumlin), then so be it.

Buehler445
12-05-2009, 09:19 PM
Could be. Shouldn't make a difference, though. Get the best coach they can get, and if he happens to be a man of color (Gill, Sumlin), then so be it.

This
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Lzen
12-06-2009, 09:22 AM
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

I just hope the new coach keeps the same or similar style offense. KU's personnel is built around that and I would hate to see a Herm Edwards Chiefs style regression. That's why Houston's coach would be a good hire, IMO. Not sure what Gill runs at Buffalo.

In any case, I'm with Braincase. I just want the best coach (duh).